Re: [slim] Filename format question (not really that important)
All my mp3's flacs start with a 2 digit number for example: MP3 or flac? 03 - Band on The Run 05 - Another Day Is this the filename or the title tag? This is great because I can keep the album in song order and useful too on my IHP340. I don't really like to see the number on SB2 so is it possible to tell SB2 to ignore the number and still put and put the files in alphabetical order for each folder? If it's the filename and the tags are correctly set not to include the number it's fairly standard. But if you include the number in the title, then you're lost. -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the StringEditor Plugin (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rescan options
There are 3 options when starting a rescan from the web interface. Two are obvious, but I have a question about "Look for new and changed music". Waht exactly will be picked up by this ?? For example, if I apply replaygain tags using foobar, should I drop and rebuild the full list, or will a search for changed music pick out the new tags ?? As an aside, which option is envoked when using the SB2 interfcae and the remote ? Cheers. -- gingerneil gingerneil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17908 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Squeezeboxes randomly rebooting
On 5-Nov-05, at 10:59 PM, webnom wrote: Can someone help Will Slim Devices replace this SB1 or am I SOL??? you would probably have to contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 6.2.0 is throwing lots of errors and 100% load upon startup
On 5-Nov-05, at 10:53 PM, dranch wrote: Anyway.. so here I am upgrading from a very slow 6.2Beta [v2005-08-21] to 6.2.0. (Just a FYI on that "slowness": just selecting the "browse music folder" would take the system ~30 seconds or more to show the first A's of my ~517 artist directories.) That slownesss of an august build should be very different now. BMF is a raw file listing in 6.2+ to allow it to be faster. Anyway.. 6.2.0 is running built from the tar.gz file but it initially threw these errors and then 10,000s of the last line: With all of those errors, I'd almost say you have to have a corrupt module in there somewhere. However, --diag can be very hazardous for your server if you just run with it for no reason. It gets VERY strict with perl; far more than needed for operational use. Try taking that option out before you go and erase everything. If that still gives you those syntax error reports, then something got mixed up. Also, 6.2.1 has had many fixes added (will be released soon) so consider trying that as well. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezeboxes randomly rebooting
I too was having this problem. Sometime my SB1 would reboot and then other times it would just freeze. I would disconnect then connect power to solve it. Then today I went to cycle the power after a freeze and then it didn't come back up. The display stays black, there's no audio, and I can't ping the IP address. Tried another 5V power supply and still nothing. Can someone help Will Slim Devices replace this SB1 or am I SOL??? -- webnom webnom's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2186 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=12778 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] 6.2.0 is throwing lots of errors and 100% load upon startup
Hello Everyone,
A while back I upgraded from a Slimp3 to a SB2 running a 6.2Beta with a
few bumps in the road:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=15672
Anyway.. so here I am upgrading from a very slow 6.2Beta [v2005-08-21]
to 6.2.0. (Just a FYI on that "slowness": just selecting the "browse
music folder" would take the system ~30 seconds or more to show the
first A's of my ~517 artist directories.)
Anyway.. 6.2.0 is running built from the tar.gz file but it initially
threw these errors and then 10,000s of the last line:
--
/usr/local/slimserver/slimserver.pl --diag --prefsfile
/etc/slimserver.pref
2005-11-05 22:06:55.6189 Odd number of elements in anonymous hash at
/usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Web/Setup.pm line 2230.
2005-11-05 22:06:55.6303 Use of uninitialized value in anonymous hash
({}) at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/Web/Setup.pm line 2230.
2005-11-05 22:06:58.4397 Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at
/usr/local/slimserver/Plugins/MusicMagic/Plugin.pm line 1224.
2005-11-05 22:06:58.4434 Using a hash as a reference is deprecated at
/usr/local/slimserver/Plugins/MusicMagic/Plugin.pm line 1239.
2005-11-05 22:06:59.1069 Parentheses missing around "my" list at
/usr/local/slimserver/Plugins/RPC.pm line 42.
2005-11-05 22:06:59.1147 Useless use of a variable in void context at
/usr/local/slimserver/Plugins/RPC.pm line 42.
2005-11-05 22:06:59.1160 Useless use of a variable in void context at
/usr/local/slimserver/Plugins/RPC.pm line 42.
2005-11-05 22:06:59.1203 Unquoted string "true" may clash with future
reserved word at /usr/local/slimserver/Plugins/RPC.pm line 109.
2005-11-05 22:06:59.1217 Unquoted string "false" may clash with future
reserved word at /usr/local/slimserver/Plugins/RPC.pm line 110.
2005-11-05 22:33:04.6577 Use of uninitialized value in substitution
(s///) at /usr/local/slimserver/Slim/DataStores/DBI/DBIStore.pm line
1353.
[That last line repeats forever]
At this point, the machine is at 100% CPU utilization and though
the SB2's display for the clock does update, it's only updating once
every 10 seconds.
System details:
--
This is running on an OLD server but it's all I have for now
Linux kernel: 2.2.26
glibc-2.1.3
perl, v5.8.7
All other perl modules were installed fresh via the
build-perl-modules.pl script
Any ideas on how to get this running?
--David
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[slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/05/05 11:51 PM >>> > Perhaps you can share the names and methodologies of other > small, for-profit developers that do likewise such that they might > be used as role-models. > > The magic forumla of functionality, performance, schedule, and > quality is very intriguing indeed. I don't write code, but I try to do my best to download the latest nightly at least 2-3 times a week to go through a bunch of tests. It's not exactly scientific, but there have been occasions where I find little bugs and try to fix them or report them. It's not often, but I still run the nightlies anyway. I used to be a corporate software tester. The job of those schmoes is to verify the software works like intended, not as people would try to use it. So, you'll always have things pop up in commercial software once it's released. I would say Dan, Victor, KDF, and all the other software devs (working for slim or not) are a whole lot more talented than most of the people I worked with developing commercial software. Oh, and I've only been stranded twice running the nightlies with my slimp3 or sbg. None recently, so much so that my wife has been hinting around at wanting to get a couple more. Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ExBrowse3 updating problem
Jacob Potter wrote: On 11/5/05, Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: SuSE 10.0, MozillaFirefox-1.0.7-0.1, and yes, interesting stuff in JavaScript Console: Very odd... I haven't been able to reproduce that, but I'll see what I can find. - Jacob Works fine in Konqueror, so it's got to be Firefox-specific. That reference to Forecastfox is highly odd. Okay, so while I was typing that Konqueror spat up a Javascript error... Transport Error: Undefined. The browser has totally crashed. -- Jack At Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture! "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin so across the Western ocean I must wander" -- trad. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770
dwc Wrote: > http://www.internettablettalk.com/content/view/133/2/ > Nokia USA Will Ship the Nokia 770 November 10 Oh I'm excited... oh I'm excited... now I won't have to make a special trip to the UK for one... Oh I'm excited... -- GoCubs GoCubs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=312 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17837 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network
kdf wrote:... In my reading on the topic, it seemed to be widely acknolwedged that WOL over wireless didn't work. Annoyingly, no consistent reason was turning up. In som cases its the power requirements, or the 'not always connected' aspect of wireless, or even the example you give. When a computer is powered down, it may not have the wireless section of the hardware powered up, thus it would have no way to receive the packet. On the more positive side, I did hear of some claims that it can work, but only some hardware supported it. I don't know for sure if SB2 broadcasts the packet over wireless or not, but assuming it does, your router would have to support it and then forward to the wireless card, which would also have to have some way of supporting it (not to mention support from the computer hardware as well). -k WOL is a red-headed stephchild standard; no two vendors implement in exactly the same way, and no vendor ships with it activated. It's a "feature" in my day job's product and causes grief more than it causes happiness. -- Jack At Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture! "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin so across the Western ocean I must wander" -- trad. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
Bonesteel Wrote: > A spritied defense, yet the simple fact is that until they identify > what platforms they test it on and what tests they perform, the unknown > gaps in testing indeed get pushed to we consumers. Perhaps you can share the names and methodologies of other small, for-profit developers that do likewise such that they might be used as role-models. The magic forumla of functionality, performance, schedule, and quality is very intriguing indeed. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17864 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
Bonesteel wrote: A spritied defense, yet the simple fact is that until they identify what platforms they test it on and what tests they perform, the unknown gaps in testing indeed get pushed to we consumers. The limited regression testing increases the number of these instances we need to deal with. I'm beginning to get that "why am I bothering" feeling here, but I'll go ahead one more time You are getting better support for far less money than you understand. Go buy some commercial enterprise software some time, you'll see more bugs, worse support, and a hole in your wallet that looks like a fleet of luxury cars. -- Jack At Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture! "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin so across the Western ocean I must wander" -- trad. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
Michaelwagner wrote: ... resources needed for this would be astronomical. Even the matrix I showed you above, 6 server configurations, 6 client configurations, would be a 36 test matrix. Add low memory, regular memory, fast processor, slow processor configurations, and you're at 144 combinations (well, a few less, because there is no memory size variation available for the NSLU2). ... I just want to point out a couple more complicating factors: plugins take the matrix out to 1000x1000 or so, and each test needs to run for at least two or three songs to make sure that transition errors are caught. Oh, forgot synchronization issues, make that 2000x2000. -- Jack At Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture! "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin so across the Western ocean I must wander" -- trad. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Streaming files from other PCs.
pfarrell Wrote: > On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 21:48 -0500, > > wrote: > > > network. Would this cause problems or be a bad idea > > > to have Slimserver on one PC and the audio files i want to stream > on a > > > seperate PC? > [color=blue] > > A more important question is why would you want to do this? > network file access is harder to set up and usually slower > (often by a lot) than local access. I would not recommend it > unless you have thought through the engineering concerns. > But it will work. I can see perhaps a good reason. I don't think I would like Slim's rescan or occasional heavy load to compete with or disturb any scheduled video recordings. Network file transfers are relatively fast operations compared to, say, software MPEG2 encoding. They are also fairly predictable in terms of server performance hit. Might it not make sense under certain circumstances to store your music files on your HTPC and run the server on another PC? Rescans might take longer, but streaming music would not be terribly impactful. Perhaps some measurement of how the system behaves is in order. Another point probably already considered is not wanting to distrub a perfectly functional HTPC by adding additional software. -- MrC MrC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=468 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17905 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Archiving classics
ovonrein wrote: stinkingpig Wrote: Use the Composer tag when you tag your files. [...] Slimserver will use it. What for? Yes, you can dig deep into the tags on your Slim player to find out, but that's not the point. It is the music tree that would require the extra level to search on. I don't have enough classical in my collection to have a problem, but I seem to recall some discussion back in the "what should our database schema be" days about using Composer alongside Artist in the browse and search pages. So that if you had Composer=Johann Sebastian Bach and Artist=Lara St. John for one album, then Composer=Johann Sebastian Bach and Artist=Jakob Lindberg for another album, you'd get three listings in Browse By Artist. That would be useful, no? -- Jack At Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture! "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin so across the Western ocean I must wander" -- trad. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Streaming files from other PCs.
No, you had better read the other responses. I'm very new to this and I don't know what I'm talking about. :-( I'd like to contribute and help but I'll stay on the sidelines in the future. --- windmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for the quick reply Mark. I am going to go > ahead and setup > Slimserver on my HTPC and see how it goes, the HTPC > is a 2.5 Celeron D > w/ 1GB so it should be able to handle SlimServer and > the occasional DVD > at the same time. > > > -- > windmiller > > windmiller's Profile: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2185 > View this thread: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17905 > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 19:44 -0800, Michaelwagner wrote: > dean Wrote: > > Nearly every ethernet card I've encountered does support WOL. > I have some old ones that don't. Also, WOL requires at least an AT-X > power supply and power to the lan card, so some older machines won't be > able to support it even if the lan card does. Pre ATX systems? drop them off the support list. It has been a full year since Intel has been pushing BTX as the only solution. Sometimes you have to upgrade to something modestly modern to get the cool new features. Its been years since I saw a new system that had separate LAN cards, they have been built into cheap motherboards for a long tiem. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] thank you for 6.2
just installed SlimServer 6.2 and i'm enjoying it very much. my thanks go out to the folks who work on improving Squeezebox software. i know there will be new problems with the new version, but the tools just keep getting better. the Squeezebox software is truly fly. i'm trying to find a server interface that has all controls (including volume) and a display of where you are in the current track. it would be nice to be able to jump to any point in the track, ala winamp etc. the new ExBrowse3 looks like it wants to let you jump around, but the horizontal bar display is non-functional. anyone know of a server interface that provides this function? -- dlimichron dlimichron's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1316 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17906 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problem with SlimServMon Widget for Konfabulator
Steve, Glad to hear it's working well. I've actually just fixed the original author's code & made some improvements -- so as I mentioned on my site, credits should go to him for, say 95% of it =) I've fixed the truncating text & added slider labels as you mentioned. New file has been uploaded. Regards, Wayne -- acebathound :Techdose: http://www.techdose.com acebathound's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2156 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=15981 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Archiving classics
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 19:32 -0800, JJZolx wrote: > pfarrell Wrote: > > But this is an opportunity. The database can do what ID3 and > > ogg tags can never hope to do. Its really not > > that hard now that there is a SQL database hidden > > behind the SlimServer > I follow what you're saying, in that the database could be made more > useful, but... If the data associated with a given track (or album) > isn't to be found in the tags (or perhaps in a CUE sheet, but let's > ignore that for now), then where does it come from? It either needs to > be contained in some other form, such as separate text files, or else it > needs to be entered manually in SlimServer. It does need to magically come from somewhere and get entered into the database. There are more options than just the two you mention. Clearly a suitable GUI could let people type it in. Or cut and paste the data from a good source, something like allmusic.com One of the problems that I have is that the current automated sources, such as cddb or freedb, have terrible data problems. It isn't too terrible for pop, but it is terrible for more serious music. A related problem is how do you tell if the tracks were ripped properly. The idea behind http://www.accuraterip.com/ is good, but they are uninterested in non-windows platforms or any of the concepts of open source. So one solution could address both issues, invent an open source equivalent to accurate-rip that also focuses on accurate meta data. It could provide the magic data feed and validate that the rip was correct. I've sketched out some of the code needed to do this. > This is where you'd need to begin turning SlimServer into a bonafide > music library management system. It is my music libary management system. Its not great at it, but it has been the library management system for my 700+ CDs since I got my first SB1 years ago. > It would require a user interface, > the ability to edit the metadata of multiple files, etc., etc. It has a user interface now. Maybe not suitable or optimized for generalized management, but that is another SMOP. > for eventually making SlimServer a music manager - in fact I think it's > inevitable, but it's a long way off. I don't see it as a long way off. maybe I'm a hopeless optimist. Or maybe I've been building web front ends to RDBMS systems since the early days of the web. A lot of this is not rocket science. > Given the apparent difficulty > right now of performing even simple tasks upon the existing data, I'd > guess that's a very _long_ way off. Then again, I have no problem doing fairly complex stuff with 6.2.1 I could have missed it, but I've not noticed a lot of data management problems on the forums. Lots of installation problems, connection provisioning, etc. The lost genre problems appear to be fixed fairly quickly as they are reported. The general regression testing and reliability issues are best left in one of the existing threads, or taken over to the dev-list. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
Bonesteel Wrote: > I see no reason why they can't identify what they test it on and how it > compares to the last release.Nor I. Good idea, in my opinion. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17864 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network
dean Wrote: > Nearly every ethernet card I've encountered does support WOL.I have some old > ones that don't. Also, WOL requires at least an AT-X power supply and power to the lan card, so some older machines won't be able to support it even if the lan card does. > http://ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txtCute. Since that spec was released, we have a > new source of packet loss ... Avian flu. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17891 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Archiving classics
On 5-Nov-05, at 7:32 PM, JJZolx wrote: Given the apparent difficulty right now of performing even simple tasks upon the existing data, I'd guess that's a very _long_ way off. I love how there is always a subtle slap in the face slipped in there :) I'd suggest that the long term problem of the above suggestions would be the extreme aversion some users have to the idea that slimserver would be used to enter data of any kind. a pr campaign would have to be in place to make sure they know it is just the db -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Archiving classics
pfarrell Wrote: > But this is an opportunity. The database can do what ID3 and > ogg tags can never hope to do. Its really not > that hard now that there is a SQL database hidden > behind the SlimServer I follow what you're saying, in that the database could be made more useful, but... If the data associated with a given track (or album) isn't to be found in the tags (or perhaps in a CUE sheet, but let's ignore that for now), then where does it come from? It either needs to be contained in some other form, such as separate text files, or else it needs to be entered manually in SlimServer. This is where you'd need to begin turning SlimServer into a bonafide music library management system. It would require a user interface, the ability to edit the metadata of multiple files, etc., etc. I'm all for eventually making SlimServer a music manager - in fact I think it's inevitable, but it's a long way off. Given the apparent difficulty right now of performing even simple tasks upon the existing data, I'd guess that's a very _long_ way off. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17877 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Killed wireless card in SB2
On Nov 4, 2005, at 2:23 PM, Michael Amster wrote: So, let's say one's "friend" kills one's SB2 wireless card through some mods. Is there a supply of wireless boards that one could buy from SlimDevices? I mean in a purely hypothetical sense only. And would one just contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] or is there a purportedly better way to do this? I mean for a friend of mine only, of course. Have your friend contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network
I've never seen a wireless card that supports WOL. Nearly every ethernet card I've encountered does support WOL. It should work fine if the player is connected to a wireless access point which is then connected to the server via ethernet. Squeezebox doesn't know if the remote system is connected via wireless, wired, optical or pigeon(1), it just sends out the magic packets and hopes for the best. -dean Footnotes: 1) http://ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt On Nov 5, 2005, at 12:28 PM, boybees wrote: I'd like to be able to wake up my server (IBM thinkpad laptop) using the SB2 remote. I've started and followed several threads on this issue. Here's what I've arrived at: when I look in the properties tab of my wired ethernet card, I see that there is a power management tab where you can check a box that says "allow this device to bring the computer out of standby." This is the wake-on LAN function, and it works. When I look at properties for my wireless card, I see no such power management tab, and no check box for the wake-on LAN function. So I called IBM tech support (usually pretty good) and ask the rep how to configure my wireless card so that I would have the wake-on LAN option. He said it's not possible because "the wireless card is on all the time and is always receiving signals from everywhere, so how would it know which signal is yours?" This answer betrayed a level of cluelessness that made me not trust it, but I couldn't get anything more useful out of him. It's hard for me to believe that Slim would build a wake-on LAN function into their wireless squeezebox, which then wouldn't work on a wireless network. I don't know where to turn at this point. My wireless card is an Intel pro/wireless LAN 2100 #3b. Any suggestions? -- boybees -- -- boybees's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php? userid=1153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17891 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ReplayGain in iTunes?
iTunes will do this for you automatically if you turn on the option in Preferences -> Playback -> Sound Check. It goes off and does the calculation for your whole library. On Nov 5, 2005, at 6:29 PM, eschurr wrote: Does anyone know how to generate volume adjustments for files in iTunes? I understand that MP3Gain will calcualte ReplayGain tags for many files at once and the SS 6.2 (with an SB gen 2 or 3) will make use of these tags. If your files are in iTunes, SS and SB will make use of these tags, but iTunes (and iPods) won't because, as I understand it, iTunes uses a different tag for volume adjustments. However, i believe that the iTunes volume adjustments will also be recognized by SS 6.2/SB 2. So, if there's a way to generate the iTunes tags en mass, they will be used by both iTunes and SS/SB. Is there a program that will calcualte the adjustments and do it to many files at once? Thanks -- eschurr -- -- eschurr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php? userid=2007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17902 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
A spritied defense, yet the simple fact is that until they identify what platforms they test it on and what tests they perform, the unknown gaps in testing indeed get pushed to we consumers. The limited regression testing increases the number of these instances we need to deal with. For instance - If I had any warning that a making the jump from my well performing 6.0.2 release to a 6.2 release with unusable performance (library scan and UI reponse) with NO OTHER CHANGES to hardware, software, or network, I would not have tried it. And, if I needed a specific level of RAM/Mhz/system software to support the upgrade it should have been posted in the read me. As it was, all I saw was the OS version (which I met). I admitted it would be too complex a task to detail all configurations available in my post, BUT I see no reason why they can't identify what they test it on and how it compares to the last release. If I can see the deltas in their tests and on the platform they tested on it stands to reason I should be able to estimate what would happen on my configuration. I'd also be able to see if they didn't test anything near my configuration, thus leaving the guess work to me. If I have to jump in and become my own tester, I'd like to see what my baseline is. -- Bonesteel Bonesteel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17864 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming files from other PCs.
On 5-Nov-05, at 6:48 PM, Mark Lanctot wrote: I don't think that's possible, unfortunately. The files have to reside on the server. actually, the files can be anywhere on the network as long as slimserver has appropriate permissions to access those files over the network. On windows, if you install slimserver as a service, you will have to configure the service to run under a specific user in order to access files on a mapped drive. Standard services are denied access to the network. Check the FAQ at slimdevices.com (search for shared volume) for details. Running linux, over nfs or samba also works. Gigabit network should be good for this, though there may still be some extra time overhead when it comes to scanning. I have run with files remotely at 100Mb and it was noticeably slower. There are some users who also run with music on firewire or usb drives. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Streaming files from other PCs.
Thanks for the quick reply Mark. I am going to go ahead and setup Slimserver on my HTPC and see how it goes, the HTPC is a 2.5 Celeron D w/ 1GB so it should be able to handle SlimServer and the occasional DVD at the same time. -- windmiller windmiller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2185 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17905 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Streaming files from other PCs.
windmiller Wrote: > I am about to start using SlimServer 6.2 for the first time. I want to > be able to stream music to my PC at work but I am curious about my home > network setup. > > I have a server that I want to run SlimServer on and my FLAC collection > is on my HTPC in the living room connected to the server by a Gigabit > network. Would this cause problems or be a bad idea to have Slimserver > on one PC and the audio files i want to stream on a seperate PC? > > Thanks for any suggestions! That will work so long as you can create a network share on the HTPC. You can either point your Music Directory at the share, or else create a link to the same share somewhere within the music directory tree. I don't think it should cause any problems, but it may depend a little on the HTPC and how fast it is and what else it's being asked to do while SlimServer is accessing the files stored there. This isn't unlike my setup, where my PC is running SlimServer and the files are stored on a network attached storage device. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17905 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming files from other PCs.
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 21:48 -0500, Mark Lanctot wrote: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > network. Would this cause problems or be a bad idea > > to have Slimserver on one PC and the audio files i want to stream on a > > seperate PC? > > I don't think that's possible, unfortunately. The > files have to reside on the server. Of course it is possible. Files are files, they can be served from nearly anyway. A more important question is why would you want to do this? network file access is harder to set up and usually slower (often by a lot) than local access. I would not recommend it unless you have thought through the engineering concerns. But it will work. Maybe not fast enough to keep the users happy, but that is what the engineering is for. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Archiving classics
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 18:44 -0800, Michaelwagner wrote: > I think you'd have to store such things somewhere else. The Slim > software is far too quick to clear the database. > It's one button push. Or one software failure. Too easy to lose. I agree that the SlimServer process has to stop assuming that the database is valueless. I expect a preference can fix the server clobbering it so quickly. There are other implications that were covered long ago, things like how you tell if a songfile is the same or not. Cryptographic hashes handle this easily at a cost of more CPU for each scan. So folks with underpowered servers will not want to enable the preference. >Perhaps a second meta file in the same directory as the song file? With >your own tags that don't fit into the MP3 scheme (yet). Slim could be >taught to read those as well. No, this is a very bad idea. it is a global, serverwide collection of metadata, not something directory specific. But details belong over on dev-list. I've mentioned it here because all of the hard work has been done and many people don't seem to realize that the database is there. The schemas are in the slimserver directory tree, /usr/local/slimserver/SQL on my installation. The standard sqlite front end works well on the database. Things like proper backup, schema alterations to support new releases, etc. all will take a small amount of work. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Streaming files from other PCs.
I don't think that's possible, unfortunately. The files have to reside on the server. --- windmiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I am about to start using SlimServer 6.2 for the > first time. I want to > be able to stream music to my PC at work but I am > curious about my home > network setup. > > I have a server that I want to run SlimServer on and > my FLAC collection > is on my HTPC in the living room connected to the > server by a Gigabit > network. Would this cause problems or be a bad idea > to have Slimserver > on one PC and the audio files i want to stream on a > seperate PC? > > > Thanks for any suggestions! > > > -- > windmiller > > windmiller's Profile: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2185 > View this thread: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17905 > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Fishbone interface in SS 6.2 has lost mouse-overs?
On 5-Nov-05, at 6:34 PM, eschurr wrote: I've been using the Fishbone interface for quite a while and was surprised to see that in the web interface in SS 6.2 it appears that the messages that used to display when you pause your mouse over the controls are gone. The cursor changes when you pause on the controls, but no messages are displayed. they are still there for me in the 6.2.1 nightly builds. what browser are you using? -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Archiving classics
I think you'd have to store such things somewhere else. The Slim software is far too quick to clear the database. It's one button push. Or one software failure. Too easy to lose. Perhaps a second meta file in the same directory as the song file? With your own tags that don't fit into the MP3 scheme (yet). Slim could be taught to read those as well. Works better for backing up the data too. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17877 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Streaming files from other PCs.
I am about to start using SlimServer 6.2 for the first time. I want to be able to stream music to my PC at work but I am curious about my home network setup. I have a server that I want to run SlimServer on and my FLAC collection is on my HTPC in the living room connected to the server by a Gigabit network. Would this cause problems or be a bad idea to have Slimserver on one PC and the audio files i want to stream on a seperate PC? Thanks for any suggestions! -- windmiller windmiller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2185 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17905 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Fishbone interface in SS 6.2 has lost mouse-overs?
I've been using the Fishbone interface for quite a while and was surprised to see that in the web interface in SS 6.2 it appears that the messages that used to display when you pause your mouse over the controls are gone. The cursor changes when you pause on the controls, but no messages are displayed. is this a bug or is there a setting (in SS or my browser) that I need to set? -- eschurr eschurr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17903 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] ReplayGain in iTunes?
Does anyone know how to generate volume adjustments for files in iTunes? I understand that MP3Gain will calcualte ReplayGain tags for many files at once and the SS 6.2 (with an SB gen 2 or 3) will make use of these tags. If your files are in iTunes, SS and SB will make use of these tags, but iTunes (and iPods) won't because, as I understand it, iTunes uses a different tag for volume adjustments. However, i believe that the iTunes volume adjustments will also be recognized by SS 6.2/SB 2. So, if there's a way to generate the iTunes tags en mass, they will be used by both iTunes and SS/SB. Is there a program that will calcualte the adjustments and do it to many files at once? Thanks -- eschurr eschurr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17902 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Archiving classics
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 17:57 -0800, Michaelwagner wrote: > So, Pat, are you advocating that Slim maintain it's own file of > extra-meta data to make up for the lack of sufficient tags in MP3 and > OGG? I'm advocating using the database and not being cavalier about deleting it. The file exists and is usually called .slimserversql.db I'm not so much pointing to lack of goodness in the existing tag as saying that we've got a relational database, the tags can't do what I need, so it makes sense to use the relational database. I'm also saying that since we have a database, there is no reason to think that the hierarchical file structure should be important to the management of the data. There is a lot more of the rationale for the design in the dev-list archives from the early days when we were designing what needed to be in 6.0.0. I posted a straw-man schema and justification for it. Lots of it was accepted, some was not, but open source development is collaborative, I wasn't the king. Adding fields (attributes, columns, whatever you want to call them) is easy. It will solve problems in many areas. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Swapping wireless card? (repost)
On 5-Nov-05, at 6:15 PM, Daryle Tilroe wrote: I just wanted to know if there were any gotchas when swapping a wireless card from one SB/SBG to another SB/SBG? Basically I want a wireless SBG and I believe swaping the wireless card from a wireless SB to a wired SBG is simpler than swapping the display from the wired SBG to the wireless SB. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks! the wired SBG models were built without the cardslot for the card, so it really is easier to swap the display. You just have to cut 3 wires in the right place, disconnect the old display, connect the new one and slip a prepared wire over the remnant of one of the wires you cut. this is probably easier (and certainly cheaper) than soldering a pccard connector onto the board. -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] $100 promo via resellers? (repost)
On 5-Nov-05, at 6:12 PM, Daryle Tilroe wrote: Is the current USD $100 promo available either directly through the resellers or via a mail in rebate from SD? it seems to be direct only, unless the resellers make some kind of matching deal through their own devices. -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Swapping wireless card? (repost)
(This is a repost. After many months I just came over from the other side/mailing list and realized I wasn't posting to the same 'discussion' group/forum I was reading.) I just wanted to know if there were any gotchas when swapping a wireless card from one SB/SBG to another SB/SBG? Basically I want a wireless SBG and I believe swaping the wireless card from a wireless SB to a wired SBG is simpler than swapping the display from the wired SBG to the wireless SB. Correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks! -- Daryle Tilroe Daryle Tilroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=434 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17900 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] $100 promo via resellers? (repost)
(This is a repost. After many months I just came over from the other side/mailing list and realized I wasn't posting to the same 'discussion' group/forum I was reading.) In the past I have bought my 4 SBs through a Canadian reseller and I am now in the market for a couple SB3s. I know this that been mentioned in the past but I don't recall an unequivocal answer: Is the current USD $100 promo available either directly through the resellers or via a mail in rebate from SD? -- Daryle Tilroe Daryle Tilroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=434 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17899 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Archiving classics
So, Pat, are you advocating that Slim maintain it's own file of extra-meta data to make up for the lack of sufficient tags in MP3 and OGG? -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17877 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
Bonesteel Wrote: > I'm actually surprised there isn't regression testing in place already.If you > go back and check, that's not what I wrote. myself Wrote: > a major component of getting there would be a better scheme for > regression checkingThere is regression checking, but it's inadequate - I > surmise - because it didn't find these problems. I don't think Slim knew that 6 would be a problem but released it anyways. There is an extensive beta test program within the slim development group, and a regression checker. I think, though, that beta testers, either by virtue of who they are or by virtue of the fact that they run big machines, don't notice certain types of problems. So I don't think relying solely on the experience of beta testers who are all quite experienced and an old regression checking suite is enough. Which is why I volunteered to help with a better regression checker. > I was told that I would need to tinker with my system or file bug > reports to reclaim previous levels of performance. I do not have the > time for this approach. Therefore I simply returned to an earlier > release.I sympathize with both sides of this problem. Clearly I am a user and sympathize with that side. Let me tell you about the other side. A software system like this works across a network, on at least 2 platforms (player and server). It can operate on up to 6x6 combinations of platforms (clients: SLiMP3, Squeezebox 1, Squeezebox 2, Squeezebox 3, Softsqueeze, Winamp. Server: Windows, Linux, Unix, Mac OSX, Linksys NSLU2, Buffalo Linkstation, maybe more). Diagnosing such problems is quite complex. Just showing up and saying "It doesn't work" without telling us which IT you have and how exactly it isn't working doesn't really get anyone anywhere. No one can help. Imagine calling a car dealer and saying "It doesn't work". They'd say "drive it down here and we'll look at it". Doesn't work well trans-atlantic. > the final testing step has been pushed out to the consumer.I'm not a Slim > employee and I don't speak for them, but I don't think that's fair. There are many different combinations of server software, server hardware, client hardware. It's pretty hard to test them all. Add wireless, and interference from the microwave oven in the next apartment to yours and no one can test an environment just like yours, because there is no environment just like yours. All the major configurations get a workout, but maybe not yours. > If Slim Devices published performance metrics for each release A good idea. > presumably pre-release testing is done on each platform.the resources needed > for this would be astronomical. Even the matrix I showed you above, 6 server configurations, 6 client configurations, would be a 36 test matrix. Add low memory, regular memory, fast processor, slow processor configurations, and you're at 144 combinations (well, a few less, because there is no memory size variation available for the NSLU2). I agree your need needs to be addressed. I'm just not sure how, since the requirement is more complex than you seem to envison. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17864 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Archiving classics
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 17:28 -0800, Michaelwagner wrote: > pfarrell Wrote: > > it is important to not lose all the corrected and additional metadata > > just because you install a new release of the SlimServer. > Why would you lose metadata? If it's stored in tags in the file, it's > not going anywhere. > Or did I miss something? You missed that the metadata is often not sufficient. Depending on what version of which standard, you may have what is needed or may not. There are many advantages of having the metadata in the file, the biggest is that once it is right, you can move the file without worry. But the ID3 specs, which are not well standardized and not nearly universally implemented, were completely pop oriented. They have slowly evolved to be less terrible for classical music, but many of the tools haven't kept up. And ID3 isn't the solution for flac or ogg files. Getting both the id3 and ogg tag definitions and tools to be defined and implemented is not something that I'm willing to hold my breath on. I'm not sure that it is even possible to get reach a consensus on what fields are important in the classical world. But this is an opportunity. The database can do what ID3 and ogg tags can never hope to do. Its really not that hard now that there is a SQL database hidden behind the SlimServer -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
On 5-Nov-05, at 5:16 PM, Pat Farrell wrote:
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 17:01 -0800, Bonesteel wrote:
If Slim Devices published performance metrics for each release that we
could review it might make it easier to judge if we're willing to take
the risk of an upgrade.
I don't work for SD, I'm just a happy user, but I think
that it is prudent to approach new releases from nearly
any vendor with caution. I never install a new OS from Microsoft
until the first service pack is out. I let someone else
got the pioneer's arrows.
Just because something new is available, there is no reason
to install it unless you are unhappy with your installed version.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
As a volunteer developer, AND a user, I suffer from the same
frustration of broken builds (sometimes after an update right before
sleep time)
I also see the pressure to release ("why do we have to keep downloading
nightly builds?")
There are always a number of people who try a nightly, see something
wrong and uninstall it without saying a thing. On release, someone else
gets burned.
That being said, at every release, I've wished that there were NO
changes for several days on a beta release. Let it get out to those
who test, CLOSE bug reports on anything aside from that beta (avoid the
clutter). Then spend a few days taking specific reports and cleaning
out issues. The downside is that it requires patience from both users
and marketing. Not always easy to do, and this wouldn't be the first
place I've seen these problems. There are valid reasons for some
software providers not releasing product updates for months, if not
years.
-k
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[slim] Re: Fitting SB1 Graphical Display
max.spicer Wrote: > wives do it too and, on one memorable occasion, the catWhat happened? Did the > cat step on the remote? -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17862 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Archiving classics
pfarrell Wrote: > it is important to not lose all the corrected and additional metadata > just because you install a new release of the SlimServer.Why would you lose > metadata? If it's stored in tags in the file, it's not going anywhere. Or did I miss something? -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17877 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 17:01 -0800, Bonesteel wrote: > If Slim Devices published performance metrics for each release that we > could review it might make it easier to judge if we're willing to take > the risk of an upgrade. I don't work for SD, I'm just a happy user, but I think that it is prudent to approach new releases from nearly any vendor with caution. I never install a new OS from Microsoft until the first service pack is out. I let someone else got the pioneer's arrows. Just because something new is available, there is no reason to install it unless you are unhappy with your installed version. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
I'm actually surprised there isn't regression testing in place already. It actually explains quite a bit. I've had the same experience Michael described many times with the Slim Server SW. I have a stable system with excellent performance, I see that an update is available, I install it, and the system falls down. I posted a complaint to this effect a week or so ago and was summarily slapped down by many here. Essentially, I was told that I would need to tinker with my system or file bug reports to reclaim previous levels of performance. I do not have the time for this approach. Therefore I simply returned to an earlier release. With appropriate regression testing this would not happen, but fair enough. Essentially, the final testing step has been pushed out to the consumer. I would propose the following to help educate we "consumer users" in this decision. If Slim Devices published performance metrics for each release that we could review it might make it easier to judge if we're willing to take the risk of an upgrade. Clearly, there are virtually unlimted server scenarios given different OS versions, hardware configurations, and the like, but presumably pre-release testing is done on each platform. I propose that Slim publish what each testing platform is, and what tests are performed on it with specific timing results for each, e.g. it took xxx seconds to scan a library of 1000 MP3 songs. Slap all of these in a speadsheet where we can compare the metrics between releases and (more importantly) to my configuration, then I can decide if it's worth my time to accept the "New version of slim server" prompt. JB -- Bonesteel Bonesteel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17864 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play FLAC to Software Player?
kdf Wrote: > On 5-Nov-05, at 3:56 PM, earthbased wrote: > > >> > > > > I tried loading SoftSqueeze and I get "Found unsigned entry in > > resource: > http://192.168.100.2:9000/html/softsqueeze/SoftSqueeze.jar";. > > I am running 6.0.2 (trunk). Should I upgrade SlimServer and try > again? > > > were you trying the applet link or the webstart link? > what version of sun's java do you have installed? Getting the latest > from sun.com may help there. > > -kdf I clicked on the link in the Slim Server web interface that says "click to install and run Softsqueeze". My Java build is 1.5.0_04-b05 which is the latest. I did get it to run by by clicking on "Softsqueeze as an applet" clicking here link. Then after this success the webstart (standalone?) now works. I think I was having wireless issues. Everything seems A OK now. Thanks for the communication. Me Clunk. -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17896 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] ExBrowse3 updating problem
On 11/5/05, Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SuSE 10.0, MozillaFirefox-1.0.7-0.1, and yes, interesting stuff in > JavaScript Console: > Very odd... I haven't been able to reproduce that, but I'll see what I can find. - Jacob ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Text Entry Timing
Ben Sandee Wrote: > On 11/4/05, dfk > wrote: > > > > > > Does this function work on the server? It would be useful if it did. > > > > SlimServer Version: 6.2.1 - 5024 > > > > Thanks > > > > What is text entry timing? Google != joy for me. > TIA, > Ben Hi Ben Found in: Server > Behaviour Text Entry Timing When you are entering text for a search, the player will move on to the next letter after some amount of time. You can change the duration of this default is 1 second. If you read this thread it is more akin to what I was asking here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17882 -- dfk dfk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17863 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Strange search function behaviour
kdf Wrote: > On 5-Nov-05, at 4:25 PM, dfk wrote: > > > > > kdf Wrote: > >> On 5-Nov-05, at 10:32 AM, dfk wrote: > >>> > >>> Can't it become a choice item from within the server? :-) > >>> > >> type and wait, you get live results. > >> type and press enter, you get static results. > >> > >> the choice is there already. > >> -k > > > > Yes, but once you press enter there is no going back to live results > > for another search until you open up another copy of the server. > > > browser back button seems to work fine for me > as does going back to the home page and clicking the link > > -k You know, I should of thought of that too :-) That's grand lad works a treat. dfk -- dfk dfk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17882 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
I thought the iTunes plugin was important to be there if you use iTunes as your library? Is the iTunes plugin really for the iTunes updater? Dan -- dspeirs dspeirs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17864 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Filename format question (not really that important)
All my mp3's flacs start with a 2 digit number for example: 03 - Band on The Run 05 - Another Day This is great because I can keep the album in song order and useful too on my IHP340. I don't really like to see the number on SB2 so is it possible to tell SB2 to ignore the number and still put and put the files in alphabetical order for each folder? (ignored number) Another Day (ignored number) Band on The Run This is the format I have now: TITLE By (ARTIST) From (ALBUM) or TRACKNUM: TITLE By (ARTIST) From (ALBUM) if I want to show the track number. Maybe I am asking too much :-) -- dfk dfk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17898 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Strange search function behaviour
On 5-Nov-05, at 4:25 PM, dfk wrote: kdf Wrote: On 5-Nov-05, at 10:32 AM, dfk wrote: Can't it become a choice item from within the server? :-) type and wait, you get live results. type and press enter, you get static results. the choice is there already. -k Yes, but once you press enter there is no going back to live results for another search until you open up another copy of the server. browser back button seems to work fine for me as does going back to the home page and clicking the link -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Strange search function behaviour
kdf Wrote: > On 5-Nov-05, at 10:32 AM, dfk wrote: > > > > Can't it become a choice item from within the server? :-) > > > type and wait, you get live results. > type and press enter, you get static results. > > the choice is there already. > -k Yes, but once you press enter there is no going back to live results for another search until you open up another copy of the server. -- dfk dfk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17882 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Any chance of a black squeezebox?
max.spicer Wrote: > I'd buy four if they were light turquoise! > > Max I'd buy a dozen if they were Blue-Green :-) :-) Give me black anyday :-) -- dfk dfk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17878 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Play FLAC to Software Player?
On 5-Nov-05, at 3:56 PM, earthbased wrote: I tried loading SoftSqueeze and I get "Found unsigned entry in resource: http://192.168.100.2:9000/html/softsqueeze/SoftSqueeze.jar";. I am running 6.0.2 (trunk). Should I upgrade SlimServer and try again? were you trying the applet link or the webstart link? what version of sun's java do you have installed? Getting the latest from sun.com may help there. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Fitting SB1 Graphical Display
It's not just girlfriends - wives do it too and, on one memorable occasion, the cat as well! Max kefa Wrote: > sounds like you might also need max's plugin :-) - g'friends can often > 'helpfully' turn the volume down! > > VolumeGuard.pm > > Do you ever find you're in the middle of listening to your > favourite track when your other half suddenly announces that the volume > is far too loud and turns it down for you? If so, this may be the plugin > for you! VolumeGuard detects "unauthorised" changes in volume and > stealthily restores the original volume. Changes are made in small > increments over a period of time, so with any luck they won't notice! > Volume changes can be authorised by pressing 0 immediately after > changing the volume. Please note: there is currently no way of > authorising volume changes via the web interface I'm open to > suggestion as to how this could be done. I accept no responsiblity for > any undesirable domestic situations that result due to the use of this > plugin. :-) -- max.spicer The wild things roared their terrible roars and gnashed their terrible teeth and rolled their terrible eyes and showed their terrible claws but Max stepped into his private boat and waved good-bye max.spicer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17862 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play FLAC to Software Player?
kdf Wrote: > On 5-Nov-05, at 2:21 PM, earthbased wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > My music on the slimserver is in FLAC format for my home stereo > systems > > using SB2s. I was wondering if a Windows software music player can > > connect to hear the flac file. > > > connect to the url: > http://serverIP:9000/stream.mp3 > > make sure "serverIP" is the address of your slimserver computer. > you will need LAME installed because the stream to software players > needs to transcode to mp3 format > > if you want to limit the bitrate for remote connections use: > http://serverIP:9000/stream.mp3?bitrate=128 > > You can also load softsqueeze on any remote computer that supports > Java. The link is available from the slimserver web interface, in the > > Help section. > -k I tried loading SoftSqueeze and I get "Found unsigned entry in resource: http://192.168.100.2:9000/html/softsqueeze/SoftSqueeze.jar";. I am running 6.0.2 (trunk). Should I upgrade SlimServer and try again? Earth Based -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17896 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Figured out my wireless - MAC address got reset
That was it - thanks. Man, was it tough without the SB2 for the last couple of weeks. I will post my mod pics and lessons learned later. kdf wrote: On 5-Nov-05, at 2:19 PM, Michael Amster wrote: Hey, my MAC address got reset to 00:04:ff:ff:01 - I remember there was a sequence to set it correctly. I have MAC filtering on, and would like to return the SB2 wireless card to the original MAC address on the box. on power up, go into "view current settings". when it shows the MAC address, press RIGHT. you can then edit. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Strange search function behaviour
kdf wrote: > in the fishbone skin, I put a form in the header that is just a direct > entry into the static results. Live version can't work from there. I actually much prefer this interface and was glad to see it show up in Fishbone. Keeps things simple. I don't see much value in the dynamic version -- it just creates extra load on the server. (On a related note, I think Apple just changed this behavior in Spotlight with the most recent update of Mac OS X. It used to start searching as soon as you typed a few letters, and it drove people crazy because the UI suddenly became much less responsive.) SBB ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Figured out my wireless - MAC address got reset
On 5-Nov-05, at 2:19 PM, Michael Amster wrote: Hey, my MAC address got reset to 00:04:ff:ff:01 - I remember there was a sequence to set it correctly. I have MAC filtering on, and would like to return the SB2 wireless card to the original MAC address on the box. on power up, go into "view current settings". when it shows the MAC address, press RIGHT. you can then edit. -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network
On 5/11/05 at 12:48 -0800, kdf wrote In my reading on the topic, it seemed to be widely acknolwedged that WOL over wireless didn't work. Annoyingly, no consistent reason was turning up. In som cases its the power requirements, or the 'not always connected' aspect of wireless, or even the example you give. When a computer is powered down, it may not have the wireless section of the hardware powered up, thus it would have no way to receive the packet. On the more positive side, I did hear of some claims that it can work, but only some hardware supported it. I don't know for sure if SB2 broadcasts the packet over wireless or not, but assuming it does, your router would have to support it and then forward to the wireless card, which would also have to have some way of supporting it (not to mention support from the computer hardware as well). I think your way of putting it may be a little confusing. Wake on LAN probably does not work if the computer has a wireless card. My own setup has my computer and my wireless gear (Airport Extreme) connected by Ethernet to my router, and the SB on wireless. The SB Wake on LAN works fine in this setup. -- Daniel Cohen ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problem with SlimServMon Widget for Konfabulator
My goodness, that is a nice widget! Simply gorgeous, and I love how it's not just display only (i.e., you can pause or skip to the next track without having to bring up a web browser or use the remote). In fact, I have Konfabulator installed right now only because of your widget (and OK, some of the other widgets are nice, too -- definitely some cool software). A couple of tiny comments: 1. The rightmost portion of the rightmost digit in the elapsed time display is slightly truncated; it's especially noticeable with rounded digits like "3". Looks like if the time display were moved to the left by a few pixels, that'd fix it. 2. The update frequency uses a slider, but there's no indication of whether all the way to the left is "0" or "60". Other than that, it's beautiful, it's functional and it's taken up permanent residence on my desktop. SBB -- Steve Baumgarten Steve Baumgarten's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=455 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=15981 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: is it normal to see both .flac and .cue in Squeezebox
i just checked and my cue sheets are NOT embedded in flac - they are standalone. in 6.2,6.2.1,and 6.5b1, for most folders i see Browse Music-->Browse Music Folders-->Madonna-->Ray of Light--> Madonna-Ray of Light.cue (1/2)-->song1, etc.. Madonna-Ray of Light.flac (2/2)-->Title: Ray of Light which is the same as 6.1, HOWEVER, for some other folders i now see Browse Music-->Browse Music Folders-->Madonna-->Ray of Light--> Madonna-Ray of Light.cue (1/2)-->Press Right to Add to Favorites Madonna-Ray of Light.flac (2/2)-->Title: Ray of Light why do some cue sheets not let me "get into them" and instead tell me to Press RIGHT to add to favorites? -- JayNYC JayNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17817 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Play FLAC to Software Player?
On 5-Nov-05, at 2:21 PM, earthbased wrote: Hi, My music on the slimserver is in FLAC format for my home stereo systems using SB2s. I was wondering if a Windows software music player can connect to hear the flac file. connect to the url: http://serverIP:9000/stream.mp3 make sure "serverIP" is the address of your slimserver computer. you will need LAME installed because the stream to software players needs to transcode to mp3 format if you want to limit the bitrate for remote connections use: http://serverIP:9000/stream.mp3?bitrate=128 You can also load softsqueeze on any remote computer that supports Java. The link is available from the slimserver web interface, in the Help section. -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: This is getting frustrating - MORE problems with reading files with 6.2
Cleve Wrote: > Ok, I *did* find a workaround for this problem. Out of the 45 albums I > ripped into uncompressed AIFF files, I discovered there were 5 albums > in which the songs would not all play in Squeezbox. > > So, I did an experiment - I deleted the albums in question, and > reimported them, but first in iTunes advanced options for importing, I > UN-checked the option "Create Filenames with Track Number". > > That worked - now all the tracks in the affected albums are available. > Unfortunately, the album tracks for that album are not in sequence - > I'm not sure how to fix THAT problem. Sigh! Hi, I dont use iTunes, but I guess if you dont use that option, the file names will not start with a number, so Slimserver will not be able to order your songs in the album order, but just in plain alphabetical order with the _name_ of the song (I dont think you can tag AIFF files internally either). I would try to find a pattern for the songs/albums that dont work in your original case: album + song name length? any special feature all those songs share? any difference in file extension?, etc... I dont use AIFF (just FLAC, and very ocasionally mp3) but I had never encountered this issue with my files. Try to get a pattern for the files, and open a bug report if its something you think its a bug. Regards -- Néstor Néstor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=60 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17858 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Play FLAC to Software Player?
if you have a windows PC, then install winamp. A very nice and stable media player and you can get the flac decoder plugin from www.winamp.com too. Pete -- dropbear dropbear's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=176 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17896 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Play FLAC to Software Player?
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 14:21 -0800, earthbased wrote: > My music on the slimserver is in FLAC format for my home stereo systems > using SB2s. I was wondering if a Windows software music player can > connect to hear the flac file. There is a plugins for flac format for Winamp, then follow the standard instructions to point your copy of Winamp (or any other player that can understand flac) to your slimserver. Look at the Remote Streaming help on your main page -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: One artist on Slimserver is always capitalized
1st off I have no knowledge of the database behind Slim Server - However I have been using other databases for many years and I could explain this in other packages. If you previously had one capitalized entry and changed it, if the database query that looks for changed tags is NOT case sensitive it would scan the tag of the changed, correct files and compare against the value in the database - if it isn't case sensitive in its matching then it will say "Nope, no change" and do nothing. So try this - change the tags on all the tracks to something totally different "CSNY" for example - re-scan. See if it has changed. If it has then change it back to what you want, then re-scan. Hope that helps! Eserim -- Eserim Eserim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17880 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Play FLAC to Software Player?
I believe if you're just listening to a stream, it has to be in MP3 format, but SlimServer can convert FLAC to high-bitrate MP3 (320 kbps) on the fly. On my SlimServer (6.1.1) I don't have the option *not* to convert FLAC to MP3 for my software players. Of course, there are many players that can play FLAC natively if you're not going through SlimServer. foobar and I believe Winamp can. If the files are on the same PC, easy. If they're on a networked PC, just find the files over the network. earthbased wrote: > Hi, > > My music on the slimserver is in FLAC format for my home stereo systems > using SB2s. I was wondering if a Windows software music player can > connect to hear the flac file. > > Earth Based. > > -- ___ Mark Lanctot ___ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Lots of missing Genres?
Found the Geoff B instructions for cleaning up the tags with mp3tag (leaving just ID3v2 tags). But that didn't work for me -- still having the same symptoms with Browse Genres. Sent Dan a sample track -- he already has a fix scheduled for tonight's nightly release. Apparently some (most?) of my tracks are not quite following the exact tag standard. Dan said he was able to work around that. I'll try it out tomorrow & report back on the results. Jim -- Jim Larson Jim Larson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1869 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17790 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Play FLAC to Software Player?
Hi, My music on the slimserver is in FLAC format for my home stereo systems using SB2s. I was wondering if a Windows software music player can connect to hear the flac file. Earth Based. -- earthbased earthbased's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17896 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Figured out my wireless - MAC address got reset
Hey, my MAC address got reset to 00:04:ff:ff:01 - I remember there was a sequence to set it correctly. I have MAC filtering on, and would like to return the SB2 wireless card to the original MAC address on the box. Please email reminders...the search functions on the forums did not yield that thread for me... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2 Noisy
On 5-Nov-05, at 1:54 PM, bjackson wrote: I have a SB2 Wireless and I am having a problem that it is very noisy on the outputs in a digital way. i.e. whenever the wireless is in use there is a lot of noise on the outputs. When I start playing a new song there is a definite buzz out of it that is not a pure sine wave (it's kinda clicky, like I can hear it switch on and off very quickly). Also when I turn up or down the volume control you can hear the clicks. you should contact support. There was an early production issue, easily repaired if yours falls into this group. if you are handy with a soldering iron, its fixable by yourself with instructions (they were posted here with pics, I believe, when the SB2 first came out). There is an internal antenna with the SB2, so you could try unscrewing the external antenna. Some users have found that the little power supply that comes with the squeezebox can be noisy (usually affecting only the AM radio). Many have found not so expensive replacements to avoid this. However, I don't recall any mentioning issues with the RCA outputs. do you have digital inputs on your amp anywhere? That would also be an option. Regardless, I'd certainly get in touch with [EMAIL PROTECTED] -kdf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB2 Noisy
I have a SB2 Wireless and I am having a problem that it is very noisy on the outputs in a digital way. i.e. whenever the wireless is in use there is a lot of noise on the outputs. When I start playing a new song there is a definite buzz out of it that is not a pure sine wave (it's kinda clicky, like I can hear it switch on and off very quickly). Also when I turn up or down the volume control you can hear the clicks. I am running from the RCA outs to my headphone amplifier to my Shure E4 in ear monitors, which are given, very efficent and I can hear a whole lot of things, and I don't notice this problem with my speakers and amplifier, however, it is not my headphone amps fault because I've used it with a variety of sources with no problem and it happens only when I am going changing something on the SB2. -- bjackson bjackson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1315 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SlimServer 6.2b2 problems?
On 5-Nov-05, at 1:31 PM, Dr.T wrote: ceejay: SlimServer Version: 6.2.0 - 4753 - Mac OS X 10.4.2 (8C46) - EN - utf8 I have not downloaded any nightly builds. Have they fixed the alarm problems? I've fixed the ones that had bugs filed for them: the on/off text issue and the weekday settings issue. -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.2b2 problems?
ceejay: SlimServer Version: 6.2.0 - 4753 - Mac OS X 10.4.2 (8C46) - EN - utf8 I have not downloaded any nightly builds. Have they fixed the alarm problems? -- Dr. T Dr. T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2174 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17222 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Help mounting a SB3 into a wall
I'll be doing the same as well. Reference this image: http://www.slimdevices.com/images/gallery/2.jpg I'll probably add an extra stud to secure the sb on both sides. Notice how in the image the curves wrap around from the display/brushed_metal and then meets the plastic casing? I'm thinking about mounting the unit so that its about 1/8" deeper than the drywall. Then I'll use the plaster mesh tape, and then plaster around the unit so that the plastic casing is hidden. I'll definitely be tapeing up the front of the display to avoid scratching the unit. As I've been typing this I have been thinking of other ways. Like framing the unit. Maybe I'll make a stainless steel frame for it. Stainless steel sheets are not really that expensive so I may buy a 1' x 1' plate such as the one here. -> https://www.metalsdepot.com/Cart3/viewCart1.phtml?LimAcc=$LimAcc&aident= I'm just not sure how it will look since there is already brushed stainless steel on the unit. Maybe it would be better to hide everything but the display and then frame that. or... heh.. what about making a frame out an 1/8" sheet of wood. That way you could cut and sand it to form the same curves of the squeeze box on all four corners. Then get some of that U shaped molding to wrap around the cutout, mount to studs, and plaster over the wood. Man, you got me going on this. Think I'll just wait to decide until the drywall is ready to go up. What ever I do, I'll try to remember to post pics of the progress and not be wired on coffee when I do. What are your ideas? -- hashref hashref's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1976 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17829 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.2b2 problems?
ceejay: SlimServer Version: 6.2.0 - 4753 - Mac OS X 10.4.2 (8C46) - EN - utf8 I have not downloaded any nightly builds. Have they fixed the alarm problems? -- Dr. T Dr. T's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2174 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17222 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network
On 5-Nov-05, at 12:28 PM, boybees wrote: It's hard for me to believe that Slim would build a wake-on LAN function into their wireless squeezebox, which then wouldn't work on a wireless network. Why? If WOL is a wired only feature, why should it be denied to wired users if wireless doesn't support it? I don't know where to turn at this point. My wireless card is an Intel pro/wireless LAN 2100 #3b. Any suggestions? In my reading on the topic, it seemed to be widely acknolwedged that WOL over wireless didn't work. Annoyingly, no consistent reason was turning up. In som cases its the power requirements, or the 'not always connected' aspect of wireless, or even the example you give. When a computer is powered down, it may not have the wireless section of the hardware powered up, thus it would have no way to receive the packet. On the more positive side, I did hear of some claims that it can work, but only some hardware supported it. I don't know for sure if SB2 broadcasts the packet over wireless or not, but assuming it does, your router would have to support it and then forward to the wireless card, which would also have to have some way of supporting it (not to mention support from the computer hardware as well). -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770
radish Wrote: > The Webpad skin is a little plain - how do the others look (I'm thinking > of handheld or touchscreen)? I'll load up the production/consumer version of the software sometime in the next week or two and take screenshots of both of those as well. -- Victor Victor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2181 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17837 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wake up slimserver (Wake-on LAN) through wireless network
I'd like to be able to wake up my server (IBM thinkpad laptop) using the SB2 remote. I've started and followed several threads on this issue. Here's what I've arrived at: when I look in the properties tab of my wired ethernet card, I see that there is a power management tab where you can check a box that says "allow this device to bring the computer out of standby." This is the wake-on LAN function, and it works. When I look at properties for my wireless card, I see no such power management tab, and no check box for the wake-on LAN function. So I called IBM tech support (usually pretty good) and ask the rep how to configure my wireless card so that I would have the wake-on LAN option. He said it's not possible because "the wireless card is on all the time and is always receiving signals from everywhere, so how would it know which signal is yours?" This answer betrayed a level of cluelessness that made me not trust it, but I couldn't get anything more useful out of him. It's hard for me to believe that Slim would build a wake-on LAN function into their wireless squeezebox, which then wouldn't work on a wireless network. I don't know where to turn at this point. My wireless card is an Intel pro/wireless LAN 2100 #3b. Any suggestions? -- boybees boybees's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17891 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Archiving classics
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 14:52 -0500, Wendy Seltzer wrote: > Yes, or even > Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_D_minor/Harnoncourt_(Chamber_Orchestra_of_Europe).flac > Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_D_minor_op._125/Karajan_-_Janowitz,_Rossel-Majdan,_Kmentt,_Berry_(Berlin_Philharmonic).flac > Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_d_minor/Haitink_-_Price,_Finnila,_Laubenthal,_Rintzler_(Concertgebouw).flac > ... > > when the names are entered inconsistently. And for me, they are always entered inconsistently. I find that CDDB/FreeDB does OK for pop, but is close to useless with Jazz and far worse with all the kinds of classical stuff. Fixing all this stuff is hard, Especially knowing that Symphony_No._9_in_D_minor_op._12 and Symphony_Number_9_in_d_minor are the same is hard to automate, which is why it is important to not lose all the corrected and additional metadata just because you install a new release of the SlimServer. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Possible DHCP issues on setting Gateway on a SB2
I have been having issues with my SB2 losing connection to my SS running on a dedicated box under Unix. This ran for years without and issue, but I suspect it's a DHCP issue. While the SB2 gets a (wired) DHCP address quickly, I have noticed in the "Network Settings" section that is shows the Gateway as "0.0.0.0". Obviously this is wrong... Is this a bug with SB2, or has our DHCP gone awry? I am the guy that maintains the DHCP/Network here, and I know the other devices are picking up the Gateway just fine. Any clues? Thanks, Dave StricklerMailWise LLC617-933-5810 (direct)www.mailwise.com"Intelligent E-mail Protection" This message has been certified virus-free by MailWise Filter - The real-time, intelligent, e-mail firewall used to scan inbound and outbound messages for SPAM, Viruses and Content. For more info visit: http://www.mailwise.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Archiving classics
On 11/5/05, Pat Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 12:48 -0500, Wendy Seltzer wrote:> I also join all the movements of a piece into a single file, which has> the side benefit of making randomized play work more effectively. So> my directory for the same recording would look like > symphonic/Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_d_min/Muti.flacDoes this lead tosymphonic/Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_d_min/Toscanini_BBC.flacsymphonic/Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_d_min/Toscanini_LaScala.flac symphonic/Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_d_min/Mengelberg.flacsymphonic/Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_d_min/Szell_Cleveland.flacsymphonic/Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_d_min/Szell_London.flac symphonic/Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_d_min/Szell_Columbia.flac Yes, or even Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_D_minor/Harnoncourt_(Chamber_Orchestra_of_Europe).flac Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_D_minor_op._125/Karajan_-_Janowitz,_Rossel-Majdan,_Kmentt,_Berry_(Berlin_Philharmonic).flac Beethoven,_Ludwig_van/Symphony_No._9_in_d_minor/Haitink_-_Price,_Finnila,_Laubenthal,_Rintzler_(Concertgebouw).flac ... when the names are entered inconsistently. --Wendy-- Wendy Seltzerhttp://wendy.seltzer.org/blog/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help mounting a SB3 into a wall
I am gong to go through the same install in a few months, so if I hear of anything in the mean time, I will keep you posted. Dave StricklerMailWise LLC617-933-5810 (direct)www.mailwise.com"Intelligent E-mail Protection">>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1:45:23 AM Friday, November 04, 2005 >>>We are in the mist of redoing our master bath. I want to install a SB3in the wall. The unit looks like it is slim enough to fit with a 2x4stud but I am concerned about how to finish it off. Is there a way tobuild a trim piece that would go around the bends of the sb and providea casing for sheetrock. I suspect this is done all the time for customcar installs.thanksKen-- Kenr___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss This message has been certified virus-free by MailWise Filter - The real-time, intelligent, e-mail firewall used to scan inbound and outbound messages for SPAM, Viruses and Content. For more info visit: http://www.mailwise.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770
bklaas Wrote: > this kills me it's not available in the U.S. I've been jonesing for this > thing as my squeezeboxen kontroller ever since I posted this thread way > back when: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14419 > > If anybody gets their hands on one of these, please post to the thread > with impressions, both overall and slimserver-specific. > > #!/ben http://www.internettablettalk.com/content/view/133/2/ Nokia USA Will Ship the Nokia 770 November 10 -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17837 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Archiving classics
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 10:55 -0800, ovonrein wrote: > pfarrell Wrote: > > The key problem is that any hierarchical structure fails for > > classical music. > You lost me with this one. I had thought that > Composer/Work/Artists/Movements > pretty much covers all bases. I am not too bothered mixing singers and > conductors in the Artists component. Its all personal preference. You like Composer/Work/Artists/Movements where I would tend to prefer: /Genre/Composer/Artist/Work/Movements But I really don't want it to be hierarchical. Composer -> Work is fine, we all agree on that, but even something as simple as Genre is far too vague to be a major hierarchical divider. Some folks want to consider "Classical" as one genre (i.e. the NullSoft folks who brought you MP3 tags) yet anyone with a even modest sized classicial collection would distinguish between baroque, romantic, modern and post-modern. Sometimes the conductor matters, sometimes not, but the big conductors work with many of the major symphonies, you can't assume that Riccado Muti is always with Philly. > pfarrell Wrote: > > The alternative to hierarchical databases for the past 30 years has > > been a relational database. > Yes, and I have seen more chaos in relational databases than I ever saw > in hierarchical structures. Relational database design tends to require > more discipline than the average designer cares to muster. Hierarchical > databases usually impose it. Lets not go into theology here. I'll grant that the easy of use allows people who are clueless to design terrible relational schemas. The fact is that SlimServer starting with 6.0 has a relational database back end. We are using it, we can use it to do more. > pfarrell Wrote: > > > > The real solution is to use external data [...] in a relational > > database. A database with extensions so that there are clear and easy > > to use fields like conductor, soloists, accompanists, group, and > > performance-location for the recording and composer, title, movement, > > key, opus etc. for the music. > > > > You are beginning to lose me. I can only surmise that you are > proposing that my search should be able to traverse an arbritrary > number of attributes. Since we have a database, and a front end, you can use the predefined interface. Or, since it is all open source, we can build upon what is there and add a few columns. Back to theology, there is no requirement to expose the database, and proper code will simply ignore columns and tables that it doesn't know about. This is something that no hierarchy can handle. > And I am sure that you can make it work in your modern-day relational > database. Only SMOP. Way smaller now that all the heavy lifting has been done for us. We've got it, we might as well use it. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770
* radish shaped the electrons to say... The Webpad skin is a little plain - how do the others look (I'm thinking of handheld or touchscreen)? The Webpad skin has actually been removed from 6.2 as it was no different than the 'EN' skin. -D -- what're the units of the coefficient of agnosticity? I don't knows per hour? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770
The Webpad skin is a little plain - how do the others look (I'm thinking of handheld or touchscreen)? -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17837 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver 6.2: volume issue
For those, like me, who didn't get the Spinal Tap reference the first time, check out http://spinaltapfan.com/atozed/TAP00160.HTM The quote out of there I hope Slim didn't pay attention to: "Early Fender Champs (a small, low-powered amp, probably intended for practice) had no controls except for a volume control that went to 11. And from about 5 on up, they didnt get any louderjust more distorted. A number of artists use them for recording and some (including Neil Young) use them for live performances. Most of us who are lucky enough to own one (mine was built in 1953 or 1954) turn them up to 11 cause they sound so damn good." -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17782 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Archiving classics
On Sat, 2005-11-05 at 10:55 -0800, ovonrein wrote: > pfarrell Wrote: > > > > The key problem is that any hierarchical structure fails for > > classical music. > You lost me with this one. I had thought that > Composer/Work/Artists/Movements > pretty much covers all bases. I am not too bothered mixing singers and > conductors in the Artists component. Its all just personal preference. you propose > Composer/Work/Artists/Movements but I'd probably go with > > pfarrell Wrote: > > > > Extra directories can be setup by you now. But that won't > > do much, as it is hierarchical thinking that is the root problem. > > > > The alternative to hierarchical databases for the past 30 years has > > been a relational database. > > > > Yes, and I have seen more chaos in relational databases than I ever saw > in hierarchical structures. Relational database design tends to require > more discipline than the average designer cares to muster. Hierarchical > databases usually impose it. > > Oh and - granted - there is the *odd* problem that could indeed not be > elegantly represented in hierarchical form ;) > > pfarrell Wrote: > > > > For me, the answer to [tagging] is again, use anything that is > > consistent within your library, but don't lose much sleep over it. The > > [...] reality is that the limits of internal tags become painfully > > clear with classical. So just tag the files basically and move on. > > > > I am with you on that once since from what I can make out, the Slim > player interface only allows me to retrieve by file tree structure. > Tags come in later, when it comes to building the playlist. > > pfarrell Wrote: > > > > The real solution is to use external data [...] in a relational > > database. A database with extensions so that there are clear and easy > > to use fields like conductor, soloists, accompanists, group, and > > performance-location for the recording and composer, title, movement, > > key, opus etc. for the music. > > > > You are beginning to lose me. I can only surmise that you are > proposing that my search should be able to traverse an arbritrary > number of attributes. > > The Slim player interface will adapt, since it will simply follow these > branches. > > This would work. > > And I am sure that you can make it work in your modern-day relational > database. Only SMOP. As a small aside, I had thought that you would > have found a hierarchical database a much more natural choise - they > adapt too, you know ... :) > > -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Archiving classics
ovonrein Wrote: > What for? Yes, you can dig deep into the tags on your Slim player to > find out, but that's not the point. It is the music tree that would > require the extra level to search on.I think something is missing here. As of 6, what you are browsing, when you start from the home page of the web interface to slim, is not directory based but tag based. When you select "Browse Albums", artists, artwork, genres, years, you are browsing by the tag content of those files. Only when you select "Browse Music Folder" are you going into the physical music tree. (the other ones, below - New Music, Favorites, Random Mix, Playlists - are implemented in other ways) -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17877 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I love my Squeezebox, but it NEVER works perfectly
Dan, If you're still having problems try downloading SlimCD and run you're setup from that. Here is a link: http://www.herger.net/slim/detail.php?nr=763 If you continue to experience the same problems then you know it is a hardware/network issue. That will have at least ruled out the bloated OS. Next, if you're running your squeeze box using a wireless connection bite the bullet for your next jam session and hook it up with cat5. Does it still have problems? Next, choose from server settings the "Light" interface. It looks pretty generic, but is there still a problem? If it is the interface causing the problem uninstall Slimserver, download a previous version that worked better for you and install that one. Rename the interface directory ( /HTML/ ) that works for you. Upgrade to 6.2.1 and you should still see the interface from the previous version you installed which worked for you. I use ExBrowse and because of previous annoyances I began doing this and was able to pick and choose interfaces from previous versions which I was already comfortable with. I haven't noticed any problems with using older interface versions yet. Not the interface? Ugh... The only time I have ran into a problem that sounds similar to yours is when running Windows MediaPlayer as another player elsewhere in the house. When I connected MediaPlayer in my office to listen to a different playlist while my SqueezeBox was playing in the living room I started hearing 'skips' every 5 - 15 seconds. It is/was either the slow system I am running SlimServer off of or the network. However, that was about a year ago on a much older version of SlimServer. I'm running fine here on a system that is VERY slow. I also rarely shut it down. Some how its up time is comparable to my RH9/SmoothWall box: PIII 550 768mb RAM Windows 2000 Server (lots of services running...poor thing) -- hashref hashref's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1976 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17864 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
