[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Great news on Pandora. I can't wait. > Radish, I agree that having to switch modes to use one or the other is > inelegant. However I think the architecture is sound, and we just need > some higher-level polish to make it feel right... I really hope you'll work on this. The current implementation is a real kludge. It's one of the few areas left where the Squeezebox really lacks elegance / usability. How it should work: Integrate everything together. Selecting a service provided through Squeezenetwork would log you in, transparently. Switching to Squeezeserver sourced content would log you out of Squeezenetwork, transparently. Turning the box off, or a predefined period of inactivity, would also log you out of Squeezenetwork. -- KenF KenF's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3748 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Tired of turning squeebox on/off
FYI I changed my default slimserver to 6.5 at the weekend, and so far the SB1 has reconnected automatically each time I've restarted my PC (only twice so far). Trouble is I can't imagine why 6.5 would make any difference - surely all that sort of logic is in the Squeezebox? James -- James James's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=189 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20690 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
My very limited trials with pandora haven't been very rewarding so far ... but I love last.fm, thanks to James' plugin. Having read that excellent blog comparison, and the comments thereon, it seems that the two services are "scratching two different itches" and that support for both would be ideal. If Slim are going to incorporate pandora into Squeezenetwork, is there any chance of maintaining a level playing field by giving a similar integration to last.fm (crudely, putting the last.fm plugin onto the Squeezenetwork servers - though I realise there's a bit more than that!)? Ceejay. -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] overseas use and Yahoo Music Engine
1) will I be able to use it to play songs from my Yahoo Music playlists (the type of music that is rented, not owned ) 2) I travel between the US and Israel is the power adapter 110-220? Any other issues I should be aware of in terms of using the device overseas? -- shekala shekala's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3818 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20903 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] pandora is coming to squeezebox ...
This morning a friend of mine e-mailed me about a 'new' company called pandora.com that uses a large 'music genome' database to intelligently create a 'radio station' that plays music based upon it's similarities to songs or artists you select ... So I logged on, and started to play with it ... it's great! ... and I was thinking "it would be great if this was available for the squeezebox" ... Wandering around their site I checked their blog and low and behold ... they are announcing that they will be available how cool is that ... I encourage to you check it out ... http://blog.pandora.com/pandora/ Regards - Larry p.s I am in no way affiliated to either slimdevices or pandora ... just an adoring customer! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] pandora is coming to squeezebox ...
Wandering around their site I checked their blog and low and behold ... they are announcing that they will be available There's a long thread about all this: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
I'm guessing this won't be available to non-US users beyond the free trial? You can lie on the registration about your location but then that won't match up with your CC billing address. James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
I'm guessing this won't be available to non-US users beyond the free trial? Oh no... I fear you're right :-( http://blog.pandora.com/faq/index.html#59 -- Michael --- Help translate SlimServer by using the SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Score one for LastFM then. Not that I'm biased. Much. James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
if for example...a non-geographic email address (e.g. @gmail.com) and the only zipcode I know (90125 ;-) the Pandora licensing hasn't been explicitly broken... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I'm guessing this won't be available to non-US users beyond the free > > trial? > > Oh no... I fear you're right :-( > > http://blog.pandora.com/faq/index.html#59 > > -- > > Michael > > --- > Help translate SlimServer by using the > SlimString Translation Helper (http://www.herger.net/slim/) > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
> if for example...a non-geographic email address (e.g. > @gmail.com) and the only zipcode I know (90125 ;-) the > Pandora licensing hasn't been explicitly broken... And how will you pay for the subscription required for the SlimServer access? NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/09/06 7:49 AM >>> >> if for example...a non-geographic email address (e.g. >> @gmail.com) and the only zipcode I know (90125 ;-) the >> Pandora licensing hasn't been explicitly broken... > >And how will you pay for the subscription required for the >SlimServer access? A buddy who lives in the states or paypal? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Add local radio stations to radio playlist
Ok Wim, Dan heb ik daar dus niet alleen last van. Hetzelfde heb ik met bv SkyRadio. Via Windows Media Player perfect, via SlimServer niets. Groetjes -- hardbopper hardbopper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1921 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19698 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slimserver won't start on new laptop
This sounds bizarre, but reinstall SlimServer. For some reason the service won't run the very first time you install it and reinstalling clears it up. Kyle wrote: > I just installed Slimserver on a laptop that I just reformatted to > Windows XP Pro. The install seemed to go OK, but when I try to start > Slimserver, it just blinks in the system tray and will not start. I > had no problems at all on my other XP machine. Please help. > > -- ___ Mark Lanctot ___ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
RE: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
> > A buddy who lives in the states or paypal? I couldn't find any details about what methods of payment they take without signing up. Anyway, don't get me wrong, I think this is great news for SlimDevices! This is exactly the sort of thing they need to differentiate from the competition. Hopefully Rhapsody will come good on their promise to provide the service outside of the US. It's always frustrating to see these services (Rhapsody as well) unavailable elsewhere... James NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NY times/ Pandora
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, James (IT) Craig wrote: > And how will you pay for the subscription required for the SlimServer > access? And who would want to when we have Last.FM? :) Kevin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Announce: Moose 0.21
New build of Moose now up.. 0.24.. I've re-coded the Now Playing window drawing code.. It should be much more zippy. I've also had to replace the titlebar with a custom drawn one as putting a decent minimize to tray icon up there was causing all sorts of grief.. I've also made the maximize option do a kind of full-screen thing.. Give the new version a whirl and see what you think.. -- - Dr Lovegrove http://www.rusticrhino.com/drlovegrove ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Yet Another Home NAS Solution:Yellowbox Terabyte NAS
Lack og gigabit ethernet and SATA are not going to hamper performance as far as streaming music is concerneed. Well, unless you are supporting many flients, but then you will probably run into a throughput issue with the usit anyway, especially if it was capable of hosting slimserver itself. However i would have bandwidth concerns with the lack of gigabit when connecting multiple units together. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20892 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
seanadams Wrote:
> Thanks guys! Pandora is going to be huge - no doubt the biggest thing
> to happen to music since Napster.
>
Do you really think so? I respect your opinion, but I'm not seeing
it.
Pandora has a fraction of the music available on Rhapsody Radio or
Launchcast. There is no way to browse it, only a clunky searcher.
Notwithstanding the highfalutin language ("music genome"), it's no
better at guessing what I'd like. It streams in a medium-resolution
format that isn't going to sound much better on an audiophile
Squeezebox than on a Ratty Old Kopykat Unit.
So why has the premium hardware maker teamed up with the Brand X
service provider? Surely not because of their shared philosophy of
openness:
seanadams Wrote:
> It's not DRM in the usual sense, but yes there are reasons why we
> probably won't put this in SlimServer.
Indeed, Pandora seems to be paranoid not about the rights to the music
itself, but about some bot deducing their suggestion algorithm.
Not, I hope, because Slim wants to join a box+service battle:
Isomething+Itunes vs. Roku+Rhapsody vs. Slim+Pandora. If so, I fear
Slim is on the wrong horse; but, more importantly, it's the beginning
of the end of the open-source, open-format idea.
So, what's going on? Are the big players just too afraid of open
source altogether to deal with Slim at all?
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[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
tom permutt Wrote: > If so, I fear Slim is on the wrong horse; but, more importantly, it's > the beginning of the end of the open-source, open-format idea. We expect this to be the first of many horses, and we're not interested in forcing anyone to use any particular music source. Our goal is ALL THE MUSIC and we're happy to let users decide which services they'll get it from. However, there are practical and legal limits to which non-open/non-mp3 ones we can bring online, and how quickly. Please don't assume that because our software is open source that we oppose non-free-anything - our software roadmap has always indicated plans to support more formats and more music sources including DRM ones. As much as we'd like everyone to use sensible file formats and open interfaces, we're just not big enough to drive that, so instead we'll try to just make it all available and let you decide. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Great post and very pleased to hear that Pandora will be a part of SN. my question is .. Will the free service still be offered to SN users. It is not that I am averse to paying 36 bucks a year for the facility.. but as mentioned above.. thoses who live outside of the states (like me in the UK) have issues in getting the paid service. I have used pandora before (in the UK) but am limited to the free service.. which puts a small ad on screen sure it can be a bit of a pain but for free music streams I really dont mind... so... will us poor folk outside of the US be able to use pandora on our SB/SN beyond the 90 trial period... any chance of them incorporating the free (listen to an ad first) service? -- rick's cafe WHEN MUSIC HIT YOU YOU FEEL NO PAIN!!! rick's cafe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announce: Moose 0.21
il.com> From: Kevin Weller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: discuss@lists.slimdevices.com In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dr Lovegrove wrote: > I've also made the maximize > option do a kind of full-screen thing.. Looking good apart from one minor issue. Normally when I maximise a window it maximises enough so the taskbar and system tray remain uncovered. Moose is going full screen and hiding them. Kevin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Great article. And to think it seemed like only a few months ago you guys were placating our questions about Pandora with a 'Let's just say I'm a good friend of the guys over there.' -- el payo el payo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Songbird
Has anyone tried this yet with their Squeezebox. Seems like you can control your Squeezebox with it. EW ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
seanadams Wrote: > We expect this to be the first of many horses, and we're not interested > in forcing anyone to use any particular music source. Our goal is ALL > THE MUSIC and we're happy to let users decide which services they'll > get it from. However, there are practical and legal limits to which > non-open/non-mp3 ones we can bring online, and how quickly. Please > don't assume that because our software is open source that we oppose > non-free-anything - our software roadmap has always indicated plans to > support more formats and more music sources including DRM ones. As much > as we'd like everyone to use sensible file formats and open interfaces, > we're just not big enough to drive that, so instead we'll try to just > make it all available and let you decide. Thanks, Sean: that is what I hoped to hear. Your well-known discretion about ongoing negotiations may lead to unrealistic speculation that things like Rhapsody are coming Real Soon Now. Then something like this may seem more a disappointing substitute than a parallel option. I do hope some of the important "practical and legal limits" can be overcome in time. We like it to sound good and look good, but, as you suggest, we all really want choices in music. -- tom permutt tom permutt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1893 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
tom permutt wrote: > I do hope some of the important "practical and legal limits" can be > overcome in time. We like it to sound good and look good, but, as you > suggest, we all really want choices in music. Back when my company was trying to stream our 40,000 CDs (which had every pop/country/r-b/hiphop/house/ cd that anyone would want) the RIAA ran us out of business over their legal limits. They may have changed a little over the years, but the rules are convoluted and written for one and only one reason: to maintain the major label/RIAA business model that they have used for 50+ years. The RIAA wrote the DMCA, the US Congress just rubber stamped it. The law is clear that radio stations are legal as long as the proper fees are paid. The key about radio stations is that the station operator, not the listener, controls the music selection. Even if they have learned a little over the years, the field is a minefield. The RIAA reflects its owners, which are the four (or it is five this month) major record labels. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Nokia 770 & Slimserver- Any regrets?
Was wondering is those of you who have bought the nokia 770 as an interfaceand or remote control to slimserver have had any regrets? Should I hold off and see if a new model comes out that will adress some of the hardware issues (eg memory) or should |I hit the 'buy' button now :) thanks -- bouton bouton's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=539 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20910 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
rick's cafe Wrote: > > I have used pandora before (in the UK) but am limited to the free > service.. which puts a small ad on screen sure it can be a bit of a > pain but for free music streams I really dont mind... > > so... will us poor folk outside of the US be able to use pandora on > our SB/SN beyond the 90 trial period... any chance of them incorporating > the free (listen to an ad first) service? I don't know if there are plans to offer audio ads, but for now the only ads are web-based, so there is no way to have an ad-supported account. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Songbird
I gotta wonder - what's with the Songbird logo bird farting? :-D It seems to be referencing something specific. It appears everywhere the logo appears. Examples: http://69.90.210.150/themes//gespaa_customized/extn_birdmeditating.png http://69.90.210.150/themes/gespaa_customized/dev_masthead.png In that last image, they even have a specification list pointing to the gas plume. :-) Regarding SlimServer/Squeezebox support, I tried the program out briefly yesterday and apart from a link to Slim's website, I didn't see anything specific. Mind you, the program doesn't do anything I can't already do. Although it looks very slick already, I uninstalled it. I like the fact that it's open-source, based on Firefox, and free. I'll keep an eye on it and when it can do something SlimServer/foobar2000/Firefox can't, I'll install it again. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Has anyone tried this yet with their Squeezebox. Seems like you can > control your Squeezebox with it. > > EW > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > > -- ___ Mark Lanctot ___ __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Nokia 770 & Slimserver- Any regrets?
No regrets here. It's a fantastic device. My two main uses are web+email when traveling (no lugging a laptop), and SB rich remote. There are some limitations, but I'm living with them. Biggest flaws: --The native email client is rough. Nokia has committed to improvement. For now I just use my webmail, which works very well. --Memory and CPU limitations. This is balanced by the fact that limiting these resources makes for better battery life. There are small lags, and you can only load so many apps at once, but it's not really so bad. Of course I look forward to future models, but I will happily use this one until then. And some of the performance issues will improve as better software is released. Some other flaws (WPA-PSK, inline HTTP auth URLs, performance) have already been addressed in software. And of course it's been hard waiting for the stable release of SS6.5 w/ the 770 skin. I'm running a reasonably operable nightly cut and that's working for now. And for an unexpected joy: tune in to a SlimServer stream using the 770 music player, jump over to the 770 skin to control it, pop in headphones, put the 770 in your pocket and move around. Portable, personal radio (on a WiFi and battery leash, but still...). I'm happy. --rt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Correct, after the 90 day trial you'd need to subscribe. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
s.. the answer is no then for the moment at least? -- rick's cafe WHEN MUSIC HIT YOU YOU FEEL NO PAIN!!! rick's cafe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: next album button?
... >> Such a request already exists: >> http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=460 > Sometimes I wonder if the bugzilla database has outgrown its usefulness > - at least for end users. Old bugs and feature requests may as well not > exist now that there are over 700 open entries in the db. Most > everything just gets marked 'Future'. What are the actual chances that > a feature request nearly two years old will ever be implemented? > The company I work for has twenty years worth of products, and the ERs are currently in the 86,000 range. Product Managers go through it on a regular basis and close the ERs that aren't going to get fixed soon -- but first they copy them onto index cards and hang them on a wall by the breakroom on the developer's floor. Will stuff get fixed? Depends some on the number of developers, but it depends even more on the development direction and what developers are passionate about. A vast swatch of bugs were recently obviated by architectural changes that made them moot, which of course introduced new bugs... but would the architecture change have happened if the developers were being held to "fix all these first"? Another decent chunk of bugs could be obviated by another pretty minor architectural change, but the lead developer in that functional area doesn't want to do it, so those keep getting bandaided. Eventually the weight of bandaids leads to a de facto architectural change. Forget rocket surgery, software development is the most complex human endeavor. It ain't pretty, but just be thankful that the SDI bugzilla is open to the public and as small as it is :) -- Jack Coates At Monkeynoodle Dot Org: It's A Scientific Venture! "I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin, so across the Western ocean I must wander" - traditional ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB 2 vs 3 differences
Is there anyplace I can get a detailed list of the differences between Squeezebox 2 and 3? I have a 2 and want to know what (other than optical out) I don't have on my SB2. Since all new PR from Slim is about the SB3, I often don't know if a feature is hardware or software (i.e. upgradable) based. tks -- GQB GQB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1222 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20916 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB 2 vs 3 differences
* GQB shaped the electrons to say... Is there anyplace I can get a detailed list of the differences between Squeezebox 2 and 3? I have a 2 and want to know what (other than optical out) I don't have on my SB2. Since all new PR from Slim is about the SB3, I often don't know if a feature is hardware or software (i.e. upgradable) based. http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?HardwareComparison Should give you an idea. -D -- It sucks to discover that you are the foremost authority on some set of things when you've got a problem. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB 2 vs 3 differences
On 2/9/06, GQB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there anyplace I can get a detailed list of the differences betweenSqueezebox 2 and 3? I have a 2 and want to know what (other thanoptical out) I don't have on my SB2.You certainly have an optical out on your SB2! Well, if you don't then you got bamboozled by someone. I hope that isn't the case. Ben ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB 2 vs 3 differences
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?HardwareComparison -- atlslim atlslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3054 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20916 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB 2 vs 3 differences
Thanks! Just what I needed. Looks like I'll be happy with my SB2 for a while. Reception is good now that I've installed a Pre-N wireless router, and I actually like the original black box better than the new one. (No offense.) -- GQB GQB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1222 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20916 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB 2 vs 3 differences
The SB2 has an optical out... -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20916 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] What Remote Control?
Just pondering what remote solution for the living room. Requirements are 1. Able to display Album Art 2. No Cables 3. Battery powered, (nowhere to plug mains in next to the sofa 4. Very user friendly, must pass teh Wife Test 5. Capable of being setup to control the Amp, CD Player, TV, e.t.c And thats all. I have been thinking about a Phillips Pronto for years, but don't reckon that will support Album Art? And I think that any universal remotes are also out. What have you? Would you? use in this scenario -- montechristo montechristo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3172 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20917 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] "Favorites" IR code?
I understand the SB3's remote has a 'Favorites' button. I control from a trained universal remote. Anyone know the IR code for this button? -- GQB GQB's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1222 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20918 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Buffalo Linkstation vs. USB HDD for MP3 Storage
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dropbear wrote: > Slimserver 6.2 does have some diagnostic functions under the Help > Section called Server & Network Health. It seems to be performing well with the MP3s on the other drive but at least I now know what to invoke if it starts playing up again, thanks. Kevin ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: "Favorites" IR code?
GQB Wrote: > I understand the SB3's remote has a 'Favorites' button. > I control from a trained universal remote. Anyone know the IR code for > this button? Here's a nasty hack: if you don't mind putting a tiny hole in the remote overlay, you could poke through it at that location with a small pin to transmit the code and program it into your universal. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20918 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What Remote Control?
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/09/06 12:22 PM >>> > >Just pondering what remote solution for the living room. > >Requirements are > >1. Able to display Album Art >2. No Cables >3. Battery powered, (nowhere to plug mains in next to the sofa >4. Very user friendly, must pass teh Wife Test >5. Capable of being setup to control the Amp, CD Player, TV, e.t.c > >And thats all. > >I have been thinking about a Phillips Pronto for years, but don't >reckon that will support Album Art? > > What have you? Would you? use in this scenario Any decent color PDA with a network connection and TelCanto should work fine. The handheld skin might do, so try that first. Paul ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SB3 is selling rather well on Amazon...
Well, I think the NYT mention is working :) http://tinyurl.com/dma3n This page changes on an hourly basis, but it's currently showing the SB3 as Amazon's no 2 "Mover and Shaker", rising from position 1340 in the sales rank yesterday to 142 today. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20921 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 is selling rather well on Amazon...
The change is also due in part to the fact that Amazon used to say the SB3 shipped in "1 to 2 months". I can't imagine anyone would have ordered from them given that timetable. It was ranked something like #30,000 then. I still can't see why people would order it from Amazon. What's the value add? Do they even get the 30 day money back guarantee? -- mattg mattg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20921 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 is selling rather well on Amazon...
mattg Wrote: > The change is also due in part to the fact that Amazon used to say the > SB3 shipped in "1 to 2 months". I can't imagine anyone would have > ordered from them given that timetable. It was ranked something like > #30,000 then. > > I still can't see why people would order it from Amazon. What's the > value add? Do they even get the 30 day money back guarantee? Some non-techies are more comfortable ordering from Amazon than manufacturer-direct. Also people get gift cards, amazon promos, and such. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20921 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770 & Slimserver- Any regrets?
I returned my 770 after two weeks. I bought it primarily for use as a Squeezebox remote. While the Nokia 770 Slimserver skin is great to look at and easy to use, the 770 is just too slow to make it useful for me. I could walk over to the Squeezebox and find my music much faster using the standard remote than I could sitting on my couch with the 770. I would have kept the 770 if I had a need for a portable web browser, because it excels at that, but as a Squeezebox remote I found it lacking. Again, this is no reflection on the great Nokia 770 skin, it's the hardware that isn't up to it. -- mattg mattg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20910 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 is selling rather well on Amazon...
mattg Wrote: > I still can't see why people would order it from Amazon. What's the > value add? Do they even get the 30 day money back guarantee? Here in the UK the quality of Amazon's after sales service is second to none. My daughter's Creative Zen Micro developed a fault eight months after buying it from Amazon. I emailed them asking how to get it repaired and within half an hour they emailed back saying they would give a full refund! Naturally, I ordered a replacement Zen Micro for her... from Amazon. -- cliveb cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20921 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 is selling rather well on Amazon...
seanadams Wrote: > Some non-techies are more comfortable ordering from Amazon than > manufacturer-direct. Also people get gift cards, amazon promos, and > such. Yeah, when I wanted an SB3 for Christmas, it was much easier to tell my non-techie relatives to get me Amazon gift cards then to send them to Slim Devices. I was genuinely afraid of ending up with some weird diet gizmo -Ken -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20921 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 is selling rather well on Amazon...
And check out those Amazon reviews! Everybody gave the SB3 5 stars! -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20921 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 is selling rather well on Amazon...
>This page changes on an hourly basis, but it's currently showing the >SB3 as Amazon's no 2 "Mover and Shaker", rising from position 1340 in >the sales rank yesterday to 142 today. > It's #1 now Phil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
> A SqueezeNetwork feature? Interesting. Can you give us more details? It's really simple. You'll add your pandora account in Squeezenetwork settings, and then from the Squeezebox UI you'll see "Pandora Radio" at the top level. Press right and choose to either view your stations or create a new one by searching for artists or songs. I'm probably being dense here, but the web page at Slim Devices seems to suggest that this is ready now, and I can't get it running. I can't find anywhere in the Squeezenetwork pages where I add my Pandora information, and I can't seem to find to where to browse anywhere with my SB2 to find it. Nor can I find a place to enter it in Slimserver. Is it not running yet, or alternately, can you explain it to me like I'm 3? I've been waiting for this and paid my $36 today to Pandora today. :-) Thanks. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
* Kevin O. Lepard shaped the electrons to say... I'm probably being dense here, but the web page at Slim Devices seems to suggest that this is ready now, and I can't get it running. The front page says 'March 1st' - the Pandora detail page doesn't. I'll get that updated. -D -- It sucks to discover that you are the foremost authority on some set of things when you've got a problem. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Congratulations to SlimDevices! The latest upgrade to SqueezeNetwork better be strong... :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] DTS files
I'm really enjoying the ability to play surround files on the SB3. I've converted all my DTS CDs to FLAC files. I'm also considering a purchase of software which would allow me to create DTS files from SACDs and DVDs. One concern is how to keep these files from being played as whitenoise in Squeezeboxes that are NOT hooked up to a DTS decoder. I'm using DTS as a separate genre, so I can limit it from Random Mixes, but they could still come up in an artist playlist. Would it be possible to consider .dts as a separate filetype, then have an option to enable or disable DTS playback for each player? That would seem to be the most elegant solution. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20923 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Jukebox frontend
Is there any software or skin that can put the Slim into a true Jukebox mode? For instance, just display albums with track names, and play whatever ever track you choose, and force the following choices to go to the end of the list, and lock out everything else? This would be great for a party where guests can choose the music. The trouble now is that someone will come along and put a bunch of music in the queue, and the next person picks a song and presses play or next instead of "add to playlist" and the existing lineup is trashed. -- Kurt SqueezeBox 2, interconnects spun by God himself suspended on 24K gold support beams placed exactly .9842 inches above the floor, driving modified Martin Logan's woven with butterfly wings. Kurt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20924 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can't connect via PocketPC - newbie question
Thanks for the replies. I do not have a firewall on this system. I turned off the MSFT one and don't have any other software installed othan Slimserver. I wasn't clear in my post. The IE Browser I use is on the same system. If I run the slimserver app directly it uses the Local host URL and works fine. If I use the IP address of the system (I varified it to be correct with IPconfig comand) and port number 9000 it doesn't find the server. I varified in the slim server config that is is using port 9000. any other thoughts? Has anyone run Slimserver on an MCE machine? -- jasleinstein jasleinstein's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3813 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20901 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
This was regarding amazon.com Movers & Shakers #1 rank... On 2/9/06, Josef Shvejk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Congratulations to SlimDevices! The latest upgrade to SqueezeNetwork better be strong... :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 is selling rather well on Amazon...
Folks buying it from Amazon are going to be sending it back and bad-mouthing it if it doesn't connect up right out of the box! So I guess a new SlimServer version release is imminent? -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20921 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 is selling rather well on Amazon...
Interesting to note that the white, wired model is incredibly unpopular. Wireless black - #105 Wireless white - #1,757 Wired black - #5,260 Wired white - #73,048 and down 1,000+ from yesterday -- mattg mattg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20921 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can't connect via PocketPC - newbie question
jasleinstein Wrote: > Thanks for the replies. > I do not have a firewall on this system. I turned off the MSFT one and > don't have any other software installed othan Slimserver. > I wasn't clear in my post. The IE Browser I use is on the same system. > If I run the slimserver app directly it uses the Local host URL and > works fine. > If I use the IP address of the system (I varified it to be correct with > IPconfig comand) and port number 9000 it doesn't find the server. > I varified in the slim server config that is is using port 9000. > > any other thoughts?It seems unlikely since this is a fresh install, but just > to be sure try the following. Go to the WebUI, you said that you can get to it from the machine running Slimserver with http://localhost:9000. Then select "Server Settings" in the left frame. Then Select the "Security" Tab. About half way down you will see a section labeled "BLOCK INCOMING CONNECTIONS" make sure this is set to "Do Not Block". If it is set to block, by default Slimserver only accepts connections from the localhost. If that isn't the problem, don't worry, we'll get to the bottom of it. --Tom Malsbury -- malsbury malsbury's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20901 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Shiny front panel
>You might want to look into anodizing What's anodizing got to do with Pandora? Ah! This is another example of posts from the forum not putting in unique message Id's/References. It's really making the mailing list/forum hard to follow. Any idea when we can expect a fix? Phil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
>90 days free for Squeezebox owners. After that, subscribe for $36/yr. >Pandora's ad-supported offering is new, so we have to wait and see... > Is it America only, or would there be a pricing structure (albeit rip-off) for the UK, hopefully with a UK server? Phil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Jukebox frontend
I was thinking the same thing. Would indeed be great for parties to allow folks to add a song to the queue. Would be nice to be able to give someone a code to punch in that allows them to add "up to x songs", so no-one can monopolize the playlist. -- joncourage joncourage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20924 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Quoting Philip Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 90 days free for Squeezebox owners. After that, subscribe for $36/yr. Pandora's ad-supported offering is new, so we have to wait and see... Is it America only, or would there be a pricing structure (albeit rip-off) for the UK, hopefully with a UK server? Pandora is licensed to stream music to US customers only. (they have a faq on that) -k ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What Remote Control?
know any that run on batteries? -- montechristo montechristo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3172 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20917 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What Remote Control?
All PDAs run on batteries. The difficulty will be in having a single device which can control the SB (via web/telcanto in order to get album art) and other devices (via IR). Many PDAs do have IR emitters, but they tend to be weak and/or facing the wrong direction. So you need a seperate IR emitter card (they exist for CF slots) as well as IR remote software. It also means you're switching between apps depending on what you're controlling - nasty. What _I_ would do is use something like a Nokia 770 (or a wifi PDA, but I think the 770 does a better job of the web), and then use the SB's IR blaster functionality to control the other devices through that. In my case the album art is not really important, so I use a universal remote. I'm very happy with the Harmony products - excellent WAF and the new ones with the color screen look the part. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20917 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770 & Slimserver- Any regrets?
Unlike mattg I'm definitely enjoying the Nokia 770 in combination w/ Ben's sweet skin. I can access my music collection much more efficiently using the 770 versus standard remote. It goes without saying that browse by artwork has a real "wow" factor using a browser-based remote. There was a recent firmware upgrade for the 770 that has improved its 'snappiness' but you don't want to have lots of other apps running in the background or things do slow down. Also, you will need to run the 6.5 (beta) version of slimserver as the 770 skin is not supported in earlier releases. Ben continues to update/improve the skin and I am officially "hooked". -- atlslim atlslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3054 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20910 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770 & Slimserver- Any regrets?
atlslim beat me to it, but I wonder if mattg tried the updated 770 firmware? I find the 770 almost perfect as a SB remote but I'm really surprised at just how much I use it for regular browsing. I bought it primarily for SB use, but now use it much more as a web tablet. I haven't even begun to explore using it as a media player (that's next). To answer the original question, no regrets whatsoever. It massively exceeded my expectations already. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20910 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Nice! Pogue's a big name in the Mac world, so maybe this will get Apple's attention. -- ezkcdude ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Hmmm well I'm a UK user so nothing here for me yet. However I am interested in this. I just entered my first two artists (Beulah and Yo La Tengo) both of whom were recognised. So far so good then :) Keep adding to the service guys! Fairy -- fairyliquidizer fairyliquidizer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: New Poll: What MULTILPE Squeezebox combination are you running
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20660 Question: SLIMP3 more than one - SLIMP3 (more than one) - SLIMP3 + More recent SBs - SB1s (more than one) - SB1s + SB2s - SB1s + SB3s - SB2s (more than one) - SB2s + Sb3s - SB3s (more than one) 4*SLIMP3 1*Squeezebox2 -- rde_w rde_w's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3828 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20660 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Nokia 770 & Slimserver- Any regrets?
mattg wrote: While the Nokia 770 Slimserver skin is great to look at and easy to use, the 770 is just too slow to make it useful [...] The 770 firmware updates have improved performance somewhat. One area that may improve soon is network performance when using an encrypted wireless link. I believe I read where the encryption work may be offloaded to the DSP chip, speeding it up greatly. Another factor for performance will likely be the forthcoming changes to the SlimServer itself. In particular, the changes to the skin code (better CSS based layouts, fewer image widgets) and server-side album art resizing and caching should reduce the CPU and memory requirements of any browser displaying the SS web interfaces. Most desktop users may only notice minor improvements, but it may be an huge boost for users of slow systems and handheld devices. All of which is just icing on the cake as it is working acceptably for me now. Sorry you didn't have a better experience with yours. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
>Pandora is licensed to stream music to US customers only. (they have a >faq on that) Oh well, I'll stick with LastFM then. And it's free(ish). Phil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] DTS files
Hi, In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Pale Blue Ego<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm really enjoying the ability to play surround files on the SB3. I've > converted all my DTS CDs to FLAC files. I'm also considering a purchase > of software which would allow me to create DTS files from SACDs and > DVDs. I'm already creating DTS files from DVDs (assuming they have either a 5.1 or DTS soundtrack on them). However, I'm interested in how you're going to do it for SACDs? Also, how do you rip a DTS CD? Thanks Andy ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
>Pandora is licensed to stream music to US customers only. (they have a >faq on that) Thinking about it, the Flash demo streams to me in the UK. I assume they would tell through IP address. Maybe they will provide a UK service. If SqueezeNetwork is hosting Pandora for streaming to SqueezeBox, would the SqeezeNetwork need to perform some test to check the destination? Phil ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Shiny front panel
Take the panel off and leave it off. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20890 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Is it me or is the web interface getting slower on every new release?
slimserver has been messing with my head however tonight i tried firefox rather than safari, and huge performance improvements (on both 6.2.1 and 6.2.2 - have just gone back to 6.2.1 as seemed to be getting some choppy audio with the 09/02 build) no idea why of course! for ref, mac mini, 512MB ram, library on external fw drive, around 6000 songs, am using mySQL, rather than SQLite lx -- lx in space lx in space's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=17395 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: 802.3af (power over ethernet)?
andreas Wrote: > None of the Squeezeboxen supports PoE. Blast. Ah well, perhaps that feature will make it in with the SB4 or something. :) Thanks! -- bonkabonka bonkabonka's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3805 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20887 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
* Kevin O. Lepard shaped the electrons to say... I'm probably being dense here, but the web page at Slim Devices seems to suggest that this is ready now, and I can't get it running. The front page says 'March 1st' - the Pandora detail page doesn't. Ah. That'd be it then. I didn't read the font page carefully; just clicked through to the detail page. My mistake. Well, here's looking forward to March 1st. :-) Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Jukebox frontend
Kurt Wrote: > Is there any software or skin that can put the Slim into a true Jukebox > mode? For instance, just display albums with track names, and play > whatever ever track you choose, and force the following choices to go > to the end of the list, and lock out everything else? > > This would be great for a party where guests can choose the music. > The trouble now is that someone will come along and put a bunch of > music in the queue, and the next person picks a song and presses play > or next instead of "add to playlist" and the existing lineup is > trashed. To really make it usable in such a scenario, you'd need a few more constraints. Keep in mind that a commercial jukebox has a critical limiting factor - $money. You generally don't get a single person stacking the jukebox for the whole night, just because it usually costs too much. You'd want (configurable) controls such as: - Only tracks, not albums could be queued. Otherwise it's too easy for someone to load up an hour or two of music in a shot. - You'd want to limit the number of tracks that could be added to N per M minutes. This would effectively limit how many tracks someone can add at one time. A good way to do this would be to add credits every N minutes, or else when there's less than some number of songs remaining in the queue. - Optionally, limit the length of a tune that can be played to under N seconds. Keeps people from playing stuff like the 33 minute Allman Brothers' "Mountain Jam" (that was in a CD jukebox in a bar I used to go to - it was killed by the bartender within 10 seconds of starting any time someone played it). - Also optionally, no STOP or POWER OFF, no FFW, no RWD, no skipping tracks without some kind of authorization code. Cool idea, but I'm guessing a lot of work to implement. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20924 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: File format selection
I don't mean to thread-jack, but I just discovered this thread as I start re-ripping my CDs to FLAC (most are currently in 128 or 160 AAC). I am currently using a Belkin Pre-N router in my config; SB3 usually shows about 60-65% signal strength, and SlimServer reports via Windows connect speed usually at 24-36 MBps; signal strength ~-75-79db. What should I have in my file format screen of SlimServer for FLAC and AAC? Right now everything is checked and I am not sure now what that means and whether FLAC is streaming as FLAC and whether I can get uncompressed music without dropouts in my config. One last question - my receiver (Harmon Kardon 8000) can detect and natively decode MP3 signals over digital inputs. Would I be better off having it do that, and can I make the SB3 send the MP3 signal instead of a PCM signal? -- stoobie-doo stoobie-doo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2192 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20071 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Jukebox frontend
One thing I'd love to have, even without the idea of jukebox style controls, is the visual interface of a jukebox. Namely, a view where you could browse through albums with cover art and with all tracks visible. This is something I've always hoped to see in SlimServer - that when I'm looking at a list of albums, whatever the browse mode, I'd have the option of viewing the tracks on those albums without descending another level. I could browse to some artist, say "Santana", and easily see which album or albums have the track I'm looking for. Right now, you either have to do a search or else you poke around forever to find a track while browsing. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20924 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770 & Slimserver- Any regrets?
It's hard for me to answer this question - as I don't have a SqueezeBox yet! My SB3 is out being modded before arriving, so all my experience with the 770 is with SoftSqueeze. So far, though, it's a killer app for the 770. I agree that snappier performance would be nice (I have the newest firmware, which is good, but it's not desktop speed, of course) for loading. However, that is a relatively minor nit - it is still FAR faster to use this interface than the OEM remote. Plus, it looks awesome and the 770 makes a fun toy in other ways... I highly recommend jumping on this combo. If fuzzyT is right, things are only going to get better! I run WPA encryption, so offloading to the DSP would be awesome. -- RDaneel RDaneel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20910 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Windows Media player not staying synced wiht stream
So I connect with the stream, then change the song, WMP will play the entire song, then sometimes go to the next song or lose connection. SlimServer Version: 6.2.2 - 6152 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Works fine on J River Media Center (but it stutters) I didn't install it I just unzipped it. -- Strange_Will Strange_Will's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3832 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20930 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: What Remote Control?
Nokia 770 is my vote... it rocks! http://av123forum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12566 -- RDaneel RDaneel's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20917 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Jukebox frontend
JJZolx Wrote: > One thing I'd love to have, even without the idea of jukebox style > controls, is the visual interface of a jukebox. Namely, a view where > you could browse through albums with cover art and with all tracks > visible. > > This is something I've always hoped to see in SlimServer - that when > I'm looking at a list of albums, whatever the browse mode, I'd have the > option of viewing the tracks on those albums without descending another > level. I could browse to some artist, say "Santana", and easily see > which album or albums have the track I'm looking for. Right now, you > either have to do a search or else you poke around forever to find a > track while browsing. The only thing I've ever seen like that is Music Lobby by Cinemar, but I think it's tied to J River Media Center. As far as the useability, I think most controls sould be locked out by an authorization code. I guess I'm not too worried about people playing entire albums. Even if there was a skin that somehow only let you "add to playlist" would be a start... -- Kurt SqueezeBox 2, interconnects spun by God himself suspended on 24K gold support beams placed exactly .9842 inches above the floor, driving modified Martin Logan's woven with butterfly wings. Kurt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20924 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia 770 & Slimserver- Any regrets?
I think this might have been asked before but... when you have the 770 on standby and "wake it up", how long does it take to connect to your WiFi and actively refresh the 770 skin? When I use the 770 skin with my PSP, it takes about 15 to 25 seconds to "wake up", connect to my network and refresh. I'm 50% vested in buying a Nokia 770 like next week, but I'm just wondering if it will feel much faster than my PSP. I can have 3 webpages open on my PSP's browser but the touch-screen of the Nokia 770 is the selling point for me. Speaking of which, how well does the touch screen work with the 770 skin? -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20910 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: "Favorites" IR code?
You don't say what universal remote you have or what format you need the IR code in so I don't know if this is of any use to you. The IR code (or command or OBC?) would be decimal 24 (i.e. hexadecimal 18). (You can also arrive at this by counting the buttons and spaces for buttons on the remote control) The protocol is NEC and the device number is 110 (decimal) or 6E hex Hope this helps -- d_pete d_pete's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2550 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20918 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
> Please don't assume that because our software is open source > that we oppose non-free-anything - our software roadmap has always > indicated plans to support more formats and more music sources > including DRM ones. Let's just say that a big part of my decision to buy a sb1 and then a sb2 was that I, personally, oppose non-free-anything. Well, maybe oppose is to strong a word ... dislike, maybe. That squeezenetwork would be used for content tie-ins was clear from the beginning, and I was very much looking forward to that. Only now I must admit I'm a little bit disappointed as I was hoping for something more - global. At the moment this seems to be US only. - open Why use a binary / DRM component at all? An username + password combination should be enough to make sure everyone has paid up. Yes, people could share passwords but only on a very small scale before it raises alarms. Works well enough for: MMORPGs and adult sites. And yes, people might download some content and save it, but after all this is like a radio and that I can legally tape all I want. Nobody is gonna "pirate" content at playback speed. - high quality 128kbit/s mp3 is just not the state of the art - less mainstream People keep saying that you can't dictate the interface protocols to music services. True, for existing ones. I was still kind of hoping that you would string together a much more open delivery platform for indie labels and artists. Someone else said : > it's the beginning of the end of the open-source, open-format idea. It doesn't have to be, let's hope it is not. I'd like openness at a grander scale that between living room and slimserver. C. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Open/propriatary formats and security [was: [slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Christian Pernegger wrote: > - global. > At the moment this seems to be US only. I can understand wny Pandora is US only, the 'legal issues" are bad enough in the US. Trying to roll it out in many countries with their many legal approaches to licensing is not likely to be any fun. We can hope that they get more countries on line as they mature. > - open > Why use a binary / DRM component at all? An username + password > combination should be enough to make sure everyone has paid up. Yes, > people could share passwords but only on a very small scale before it > raises alarms. Works well enough for: MMORPGs and adult sites. username passwords are not strong enough if you care about what you are doing, and the RIAA cares tons. Adult sites are a totally different business model. More importantly, the DRMs make getting licenses to stream the music a lot easier to get from the Record Labels. > - high quality > 128kbit/s mp3 is just not the state of the art Agreed, but again, it depends on the business model. For a streaming site, bandwidth is the most expensive part of the business. Consumers never see it, it tends to be burried in their broadband ISP's SLA. But commercial co-lo contracts are priced by bandwidth in both peak and monthy numbers. If people demand better quality, it will show up. But lots of people are happy with 128kb/mp3, warts and all. -- Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Windows Media player not staying synced wiht stream
Windows Media Player (and Winamp and probably most other mp3 stream players) buffer things. Ie, to make it more resiliant to network hiccups, it will try to keep the next few seconds of the song: there is a setting in Winamp to control this, I would assume WMP would have a similar one. A much better solution is to use Softsqueeze: it's under 'Help' on the Slimserver web page. This is a Java emulator of the Squeezebox. It doesn't use the 'stream.mp3' method, but uses the same protocols that a real squeezebox uses. It does buffer (it has to ... there's nothing wrong with buffering since it does protect against short network problems), but it also recognizes the SlimProto, "Hey, I changed tracks, throw away your buffer and switch to this." -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20930 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Announce: Moose 0.21
Dr Lovegrove Wrote: > New build of Moose now up.. 0.24.. > > I've re-coded the Now Playing window drawing code.. It should be > much more zippy. > The redraw obviously got much faster. If other windows are moved above Moose, this looks pretty ok now. However when moving the Moose window it still feels a little jerky and sluggish. As if it was completely redrawn at certain times while moving and this would hinder Windows from moving the window for some tenth of a second. Strange though: can't remember to have seen this in any other application up to now. -- 0xdeadbeef 0xdeadbeef's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2287 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20141 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Playlists and Music Magic
I have been using Music Magic to make random playlists, works great and will defintely purchase the program before it expires. However, I would like to use my own playlists as well. When I go into the Slimserver settings I have set up a directory in which to load the playlists from. The problem I'm having is although the playlist directory is set up and configured when I "Browse Playlists" it always defaults to the Music Magic playlists and never lets me access my playlist directory. Has anyone else had this type of issue? -- pc4ever1 pc4ever1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3836 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20936 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
I've been trying out Pandora for the last several hours. Wow. It's very, *very*impressive. About my only beef is that the bitrate is not as good as I would like (192kbps+ would really help the audio quality). I hope that the Slim Devices implementation for Squeezebox is as smooth as the web interface for Pandora (easily add songs to a channel, thumbs up, thumbs down, etc). I agree with Sean Adams, this is going to be huge, it's like XM on steroids. -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
jmpage2 Wrote: > ...this is going to be huge, it's like XM on steroids. You know, after playing with it for a bit I've come to the conclusion that Pandora is a great idea, but... half the artists I type in - it has never heard of. So, for the most part Pandora works well with pop and more better known artists but the indie artists, abstract, experimental, and a plethora of genres not heard of get left out of the mix. I can't parse too much blame, however; it's not like they can tap into *EVERY* kind of music out there... Or then again... *shrugs* ...so much for the "Music Genome Project".. ;-) -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20894 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: DTS files
adhawkins Wrote: > > I'm already creating DTS files from DVDs (assuming they have either a > 5.1 or > DTS soundtrack on them). > > However, I'm interested in how you're going to do it for SACDs? > > Also, how do you rip a DTS CD? > > Thanks > > Andy What software do you use to get the DTS files from DVD? DVD Decrypter? I know it can demux to ac3 files, haven't tried with a DTS DVD. For SACD, you'd need a soundcard that can digitize 6 analog streams, then something to encode to DTS (probably SurCode DVD-DTS). I'm ripping DTS CDs using EAC --> WAV. Encode to FLAC, and they play prfectly through the SB3. Of course you have to have it hooked to a DTS decoder, and must disable the digital volume control (or leave it on 40). -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20923 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: NY times/ Pandora
Pandora works well with pop and more better known artists but the indie artists, abstract, experimental, and a plethora of genres not heard of get left out I imagine it's like any business. You have to pick the low-hanging fruit first if you don't want to starve. I'd be surprised if they don't want and plan to expand with time. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Shiny front panel
Pale Blue Ego Wrote: > I probably would have ordered 1 SB2 and 1 SB3 if I could have gotten > them for $200 each. The 100off2 promotion only applied to the SB3; I > also didn't need the wireless capability and the only new SB2s are > wireless. eBay was a thought, but then the single SB3 would've cost me > $50 more. > > It's not a huge deal. I'll try living with it, and if I decide to > change it, I'm sure it will cost a lot less than $50. To ease your buyer's remorse ... I think Slim only has Platinum SB2s left for sale. -- fathom39 fathom39's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20890 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
