[slim] Re: First sec of song getting clipped off

[cepheid]

As reported in this thread, I'm fairly certain
it's the beginning of tracks.  Yes, it occurs only with FLAC... in my
case, it's when ALAC is transcoded to FLAC before streaming to the SB.

It's rather annoying and also screws up gapless playback... hopefully
it will be fixed soon.


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[slim] Re: SB2 won't play

[ceejay]

Well, lets start with a couple of basics. Can you confirm your operating
system (Windows XP??) and slimserver version (6.2.2 ??) ? 

What format files are you playing? (FLAC, MP3...)

Is iTunes involved at all?

Next, have you tried using softsqueeze instead of your SB2? If not, now
might be a good time to try it out, just to prove that Slimserver is
running ok and there aren't any problems with it getting hold of the
music etc.

Finally, what exactly happens here... you're browsing your library ok,
you find an album, click "play" and... what?

Post back with some answers and we'll get you going...

Ceejay


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[slim] SB2 won't play

[Bubba]

Please excuse me, as I'm not well versed in the technical lingo.

This AM, my Slim Server would not open.  Just kept saying "Opening Slim
Devices", but it stalled.  Eventually, I downloaded the 6.3.3 version. 
Now, it will open, it will populate the library, I can browse and
select songs with the remote or on the network computer, but it will
not play.  When I check the server performance, everything seems to be
working except it says that nothing is streaming to the SB2.

Going on hour 12 of this escapade, so someone, please help a layman.

Thank you.


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[slim] Re: SlimServer buffer settings

[azinck3]

I reenter this thread with some trepidation, recognizing the expertise
of some of the other people who are helping you.  That being said, I
think the difference you're seeing between the behavior of your icecast
stream and slimserver's stream.mp3 can be chalked up to stream.mp3 not
being a true "stream", but rather a progressive download.  I'll
reiterate what I said earlier:  I'm pretty sure that when using
stream.mp3, the data is delivered to your audio client as quickly as
possible.  As far as your audio client is concerned, you're simply
downloading an mp3 and listening to it as you download.  Icecast, on
the other hand, uses a proper streaming protocol and the data is
delivered in "real-time".

I'm afraid I don't have enough knowledge of the technical differences
between how the two delivery methods are actually implemented to go
beyond that basic, fairly abstract explanation.  

Here's a thread that references the fact that slimserver uses
progressive download rather than true streaming for its stream.mp3:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14658


and if you're not familiar with the distinction here's a whitepaper
from microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/compare/webservvstreamserv.aspx


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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

[Mark Lanctot]

Michaelwagner Wrote: 
> but since you'd need to have a disk in order to make a gumstick into a
> slim server platform, why not put linux and perl on the disk?

Linux is already in the ROM.  You'd put Perl and SlimServer on the
disk.

Although I'm beginning to think it's more of a Rube Goldberg device. 
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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

[Michaelwagner]

but since you'd need to have a disk in order to make a gumstick into a
slim server platform, why not put linux and perl on the disk?


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[slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

[Mark Lanctot]

bill fumerola Wrote: 
> On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 05:59:40AM -0700, Mark Lanctot wrote:
> > Michaelwagner Wrote: 
> > > Why does all that have to be in ROM?
> > 
> > It's a flash-based, embedded platform.
> 
> at least for the terastation, it boots the majority off of a RAID-1
> striped across the four disks.
> 

I was referring to the gumstix, not the TeraStation.


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Re: [slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

[bill fumerola]

On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 05:59:40AM -0700, Mark Lanctot wrote:
> Michaelwagner Wrote: 
> > Why does all that have to be in ROM?
> 
> It's a flash-based, embedded platform.

at least for the terastation, it boots the majority off of a RAID-1
striped across the four disks.

if the linkstation is dramatically different, you could still put perl,
slimserver, etc onto a ramdisk or nfs mount or usb hdd. my linkstation
is on loan to someone or i'd look.

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Re: [slim] Re: How much longer for a really slim SlimServer?

[bill fumerola]

On Wed, May 03, 2006 at 09:09:03PM -0700, Mark Lanctot wrote:
> The device's RAM may be sufficient.  64 MB is what the Linkstation has.
> But the ROM is 16 MB - this has to house the Linux kernel and all its
> associated services.  Trying to stick Perl and SlimServer on top of
> that wouldn't work.

nope. the rom is bootstrap, loader, etc. you don't stick perl et al onto
the flash.

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[slim] Re: xAP slimserver connector ?

[i2ben]

Since this week, you can find xAP Slimserver Connectorat
http://www.mi4.biz and start playing with it. I have written a guide
(in French) for xAP with Slimserver installation, and xAP with
Homeseer. here http://membres.lycos.fr/i4ben/


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[slim] Help with SlimServer Error "403 Forbidden: status.html"

[ramiles]

When I try to change volume I get the error screen with the following: 


"In order to request this URL from a Bookmark/Favorite, or some means
other than following a link from the SlimServer web interface, you will
need to use a URL with a \"cauth\" security parameter. If you received
this error when following a link from the SlimServer web interface, you
will want to make sure your web browser software (including proxy
servers and spyware/privacy software) is allowing \"Referer\" headers
to be sent. Below is the appropriate URL for the URL you attempted." 

I researched and found this post: 

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=1539

Help please - any ideas greatly appreciated:

1) I don't understand why cross-site request forgery (csrf)should be
considered an issue with a slimserver on a home network, and why
slimserver software should consider it.  
2) There was no simple suggestion offered for a setting or patch for my
explorer 7.0.  
3) I don't get this error on my Nokia 770
4) Running the beta slimserver with the Nokia skin


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[slim] Re: SlimServer buffer settings

[radish]

Virgus Wrote: 
> Thanks Radish!
> I was wrong this time too: I kept listening to squeezebox and after
> killing slim.exe task it took 47 seconds to the buffer to empty! Wow I
> didn't expect a 128k buffer took so long to be emptied!
> 
If you mean the softsqueeze buffer, I don't think it's 128k. That's the
_audio_ buffer, which is used on the output side. I don't know how big
the network buffer is but I'd guess the same size as an SB2/3, which is
pretty big.

> 
> If I press stop/pause/skip on the server AND press play on the client
> player then the command is accepted and executed instantly by the
> server instead of the 6-8 seconds wait.
> 
> The server waits from the player acknowledgment to execute the
> skip/pause/stop commands or waits some time to do it anyway...
> Really wish I could solve this...
> 
I discussed this already. By hitting play on the client you're forcing
a reconnect, flushing all the buffers. The server has nothing to do
with it.


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Re: [slim] Squeezenetwork access via Slimserver

[kdf]

Unfortunately, it is one or the other for the moment.  there are plans  
and dreams to make SQN a seamless experience with SlimServer.  There is  
a lot to do and likely to come in bits and pieces.  stay tuned.

-k
On 6-May-06, at 2:29 PM, giwatani wrote:



Is there anyway to add Squeezenetwork to the Radio settings within
Slimserver?   It seems control over the SB via Squeezenetwork removes
player control from the Slimserver (and vice versa).   It would be
great if SqueezeNetwork were accessible via Slimserver.   Does anyone
know if this is possible?

Thanks in advance.

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[slim] Squeezenetwork access via Slimserver

[giwatani]

Is there anyway to add Squeezenetwork to the Radio settings within
Slimserver?   It seems control over the SB via Squeezenetwork removes
player control from the Slimserver (and vice versa).   It would be
great if SqueezeNetwork were accessible via Slimserver.   Does anyone
know if this is possible?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [slim] Re: 6.5 - Weird Time Display

[kdf]

I've added an upgrade script (svn 7321) that will run on startup and 
set the new screensaverDateFormat and screensaverTimeFormat to the 
users' current pref for timeFormat and longdateFormat.  This presets 
the new pref so that the user will not see any change unless s/he 
specifically decides to do so. This will only work for those who have 
not yet run into this problem.
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[slim] Re: Power over Ethernet

[Michaelwagner]

Bart Wrote: 
> when I measure it with the squeezebox connected it does, indeed, drop by
> .6v
> Would this be enough to stop it working?
> If I could find a 6v power supply rated at about 1.5 - 2A would it be
> safe to use it?
If I did my figuring right, this means you have roughly .6 ohms of
resistance in that wire. That seems like a lot. How long is that wire?

IIRC, only 4 of the 8 wires in an ethernet cable are used, so you could
use the other 4 instead of only using 2, and you'd drop your voltage
drop roughly in half.

But I have to say this isn't a really good idea. Having a resistor in
series with your power supply is going to introduce noise in your audio
out. At the very least, you should probably be putting some sort of
electrolytic capacitor at the SB end (although I seem to recall, on
pictures of the SB circuit board, that there is a fair sized one on the
input side).


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[slim] Re: Market for older Slimp3 and Squeezeboxes?

[larryrowland]

Ok, I am having trouble selling these.  The Slimp3 has been sold but the
two squeezeboxes are still available.  I am in Baltimore, MD and would
prefer selling to someone in the US.

The Squeezeboxes are v1 with the graphical update and the latest
firmware.  They are the wireless models.
I'll come down to $80 each for them and the buyer pays shipping.  I
prefer Paypal but a check is fine too.

Please send me an email if you are interested - lrowland  speakeasy
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Thanks,
Larry


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[slim] Re: 6.5 - Weird Time Display

[kdf]

looks like it is the result of the "date and time screensaver settings".
in server settings->plugins 

my guess is that they are now improperly reflecting teh "current"
settings, and thus default selection is wrong and when you click change
on one plugin, ALL changes are submitted.

changing it back seems to clear up the problem


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Re: [slim] Re: SlimServer buffer settings

[kdf]

On 6-May-06, at 11:37 AM, Virgus wrote:


If I press stop/pause/skip on the server AND press play on the client
player then the command is accepted and executed instantly by the
server instead of the 6-8 seconds wait.

This would be due to the client making a new request.  This flushes the 
buffer and kicks in with the new stream.
otherwise, it is all part of the same old stream and you have to sort 
out the mingling of slimserver and client-side buffering.  Winamp can 
buffer several minues of streamed audio if set to do so.  I used to do 
this way back when I would play my home music via slimserver when 
visiting the UK.  It needed the huge buffer to get past the long 
distance and NTL's excuse for "broadband".


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RE: [slim] Re: 6.5 - Weird Time Display

[Michael Haan]

Yes, this happened to me after an upgrade of 6.5 a couple of days ago.
I had to edit the prefs file manually to restore the correct settings
as all the screens claimed ";" was in use!


Do you recall which setting it was?


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[slim] Re: 6.5 - Weird Time Display

[James]

Yes, this happened to me after an upgrade of 6.5 a couple of days ago.
I had to edit the prefs file manually to restore the correct settings
as all the screens claimed ";" was in use!

James


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[slim] Re: SlimServer buffer settings

[Virgus]

Thanks Radish!
I was wrong this time too: I kept listening to squeezebox and after
killing slim.exe task it took 47 seconds to the buffer to empty! Wow I
didn't expect a 128k buffer took so long to be emptied!
I shouldn't do tests too late at night, it's easy to get wrong
conclusions ;-)

On the stream.mp3 side I confirm my observation:

If I press stop/pause/skip on the server AND press play on the client
player then the command is accepted and executed instantly by the
server instead of the 6-8 seconds wait.

The server waits from the player acknowledgment to execute the
skip/pause/stop commands or waits some time to do it anyway...
Really wish I could solve this...

Ciao,
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Re: [slim] Re: Power over Ethernet

[kdf]

On 5-May-06, at 2:38 PM, Bart wrote:



kdf Wrote:

Is that measuring with or without the squeezebox connected? -k

Without it connected - when I measure it with the squeezebox connected
it does, indeed, drop by .6v
Would this be enough to stop it working?


it would seem from your results thus far, that it is.


If I could find a 6v power supply rated at about 1.5 - 2A would it be
safe to use it?

unfortunately, I can't say anything for certain on that either.  I 
don't know what the upper limits are on the supply voltage.  Likely 
sean has posted this elsewhere before, but you could also try asking on 
the diy forum.  My guess is that forum is just for problems like this.  
As a general rule, being over by only 400mV 'should' be safe, but it is 
best still to give a bit of time for the right person to answer rather 
than risk your squeezebox against the possibility of intolerant 
components.

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[slim] I would like better flac to MP3

[bephillips]

Now that I have rid myself of CDs by flac-ing my collection, I need some
portable solution, for the car and when traveling. Maybe a big iPod with
the RockBox replacement firmware to play my flacs, but probably a
smaller solid state player like a Nano, converting my flacs to MP3 when
I'm on the go.

I know there is the flac to MP3 script, which will do it by directory,
but what I want is to do it by playlist.

Make some playlists in SlimServer, like "Highway" "Ski" "Podcasts",
whatever. Then point something at these playlists and have them
converted to a folder of MP3s.

Any way to do this with combinations of existing plugins, or modifying
that Perl script? I am not a programmer.


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[slim] 6.5 - Weird Time Display

[Michael Haan]

Installed 6.5 and the date/time display was fine.  Then I enabled the rescan 
plugin and *boom*, the time is now displayed as "12,42".  Anyone else seen 
this?



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Re: [slim] Re: 6.5 / 6.3 - Web UI Kills It

[Michael Haan]

Here what I did to get it working:

Clean-out 6.5 by manually deleting everything.
Install 6.3 from RPM.
Create a symbolic link /usr/local/slimerserver pointing to 
/usr/local/SlimServer_v2006-05-06

Verify it works.
Delete /usr/local/SlimServer_v2006-05-06
Install 6.5 using tar -xzvf SlimServer_v2006-05-06.tar.gz in /usr/local


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[slim] Re: First sec of song getting clipped off

[shawkie]

I'm sure that the problem I was having was with the end of tracks. I
haven't re-tested it recently to check its still there but since nobody
is claiming to have fixed it...


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[slim] Re: First sec of song getting clipped off

[radish]

I have heard others mention this problem, but I forget who. It also
sounds like it may be related to this bug :
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1434 as there has been some
suggestion that it's missing the start of the next track rather than the
end of the current one. It's often hard to tell which.


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[slim] Re: Dedicated skin for Dell Axim x51v

[shawkie]

I still have shedloads to do but in case anyone is interested I'm
uploading an early (I haven't even named it yet) version of my new
skin.

"Now playing" is working and so is "Browse artwork". Everything else is
pretty badly broken.

If you have a PocketPC running Windows Mobile 5.0 then I recommend
using IE in Full Screen mode with Default layout and Medium zoom.

Failing that it does work on IE 6.0 on Windows XP (it doesn't really
look right but you get the idea how it works). I doubt it'll work in
Firefox or Opera.


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[slim] Re: Synchronized Squeezeboxes

[TorbenGB]

"What happens if the Squeezeboxes are playing an internet radio stream?
Do they ever re-sync?"

Each Squeezebox can *either* connect to the SlimServer *or* to the
SqueezeNetwork for internet radio. Players that are connected to the
slimserver can be syncronized, but players that are on squeezenetwork
can't.

You can also have a web radio in your favorites (in the slimserver),
and if you play that, then all players that are on the slimserver and
set as syncronized will also play that.

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Re: [slim] Re: 6.5 / 6.3 - Web UI Kills It

[Jack Coates]

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[slim] Re: How to always start playlists at track 1?

[Kyle]

Under Player Settings>Audio try changing Power On Resume to Reset
Playlist at Power On.


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[slim] Re: SB3 stopped working - (long)

[hifiresource]

Good news, I found the culprit! I'm using a Motorola Surfboard900 as my
wireless cable modem and the SB2 would drop after about 5-15 minutes,
onle when WPA was enabled. The Motorola Surfboard is also connected to
a Netgear 8 port switch which connects my wife's Mac G4, a Vonage VOIP
router and SNAP server for backup. I disconnected all devices from the
switch and the SB3 stayed connected for an hour. Great. So then I
started to connect each device back into the switch one at a time. 

Ultimately I found that the SB3 would disconnect only when the Snap
Server was connected to the LAN. That's pretty bizarre, but why? Well,
I went into the admin control panel for the Snap and found that I had
NetBIOS enabled over TCP/IP and NetBEUI. I changed the setting so that
it was enabled only over TCP/IP, rebooted the Snap and the SB3 and
voila the SB3 stayed connected all night. 

So, it seems that this has something to do with NetBIOS over NetBUI
coming from the Snap server. Any ideas? I would assume that this
setting causes the Snap to broacast something to all nodes on the LAN
and is causing the SB to drop the connection. 

Anyway, if you are having this disconnect problem, look for any devices
on your LAN that are using  NetBIOS enabled over NetBEUI


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[slim] Re: How to always start playlists at track 1?

[dborn]

I found a way to get what I want, I just remove the first line
(CURTRACK...) in the file and slimserver doesn't add it back and the
playlist always starts at track #1.

Daniel


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[slim] Re: Slim Devices phone support hours

[Michaelwagner]

Any chance of a Vonage phone number too?


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[slim] Music collection cataloguer

[Kyle]

A good program to scan and list music files has been discussed here many
times.  A new one has been developed and is worth a try, IMHO.  See this
link:  http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=23671.
EDIT:  Oh, yeah:  it's free.


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[slim] Re: SB2 Power Supply Compatible with SB3?

[Michaelwagner]

The very first SLiMP3s used an IOMEGA branded power supply.

The later ones use the same unifive power supply as all the subsequent
SBs.


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[slim] Re: Squeeze box dropping off Wireless network constantly usingDraytek Vigor 2600 router

[dave w]

tried the darytek firmware 2.6.4.1rc2 - no improvement
(2.6.4.2 was a typo below)
I'll await feedback from draytek


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[slim] Plays for Sure/Janus/WMP10/Subscription Music

[fairyliquidizer]

I know many or most of the regulars here are anti-DRM, and to some 
extent I agree.  However I think their is a growing market for
Microsoft Subscription DRM streaming.  e.g. Napster, Yahoo Music
Unlimited.

This may be a difficult problem for slimserver, although perhaps
slimserver doesn't need to intervene.

Are there any plans to target this or other DRM systems?

I am mainly a CDDA Buyer, but have some Fairplay and use Napster as a
music discovery/sampling tool.  It also gives me a fix when I decide I
must hear a track now and I don't own it.

Thanks,
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[slim] First sec of song getting clipped off

[4mula1]

After upgrading to SS 6.2.2 I've noticed that when I manually advance to
the next song it will sometimes not play the first second or so of the
track.  I don't remember this with 6.2.1 but recently I have been
converting my collection from mp3/ogg to flac.  So far this issue only
seems to occur with flac tracks.  SB3/FW48 connectied wirelessly to a
Linksys WAP54g access point.  Anybody else having this issue?


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[slim] Re: SB2 Power Supply Compatible with SB3?

[twynne]

On a related note, anyone know if the Slimp3 and SB3 (UK) power supplies
are interchangeable??

Cheers,

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[slim] Re: Squeeze box dropping off Wireless network constantly usingDraytek Vigor 2600 router

[dave w]

Greg - thks for confirming that I am not alone with this problem.

To be honest as a I had a 'workaround' (using the 2600 for the dsl and
the 2800vg for wireless) I had not pursued draytek for help..but
hearing you have the same symptoms I have just submitted a problem to
UK Draytek Support.

I'll keep you posted !
Just now I'm going to try the 2.6.4.2 early release draytek firmware.


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Re: [slim] Slim Devices phone support hours

[Peter]

Great,

I'l remember that if I ever get a big enough problem.
Hasn't happened so far...

Regards,
Peter

On Fri, 5 May 2006 22:03:11 -0700, "dean blackketter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On May 5, 2006, at 11:30 AM, Peter wrote:
> > How about a Skype account for those of us on entirely unconnected
> > coasts?
> We don't have Skype set up for the support phone system, but we do  
> have a SIP address that will route right into our phone system.
> 
> You can use a program like Gizmo  to  
> dial this URL:
> 
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Re: [slim] Re: RSS Plugin "Failed to retrieve RSS feed"

[kdf]

Looks to me like they've closed it off to "registered" clients only 
according to this:

http://www.kbcafe.com/rss/whatisthis.html#whatisusm

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[slim] Re: RSS Plugin "Failed to retrieve RSS feed"

[willem]

Hi, I'm having the same problem with a few RSS feeds.
Currently I run 6.2.2 but have tried a 6.5 nightly as well on my server
and another PC. All running the Windows version.

A few RSS feeds from a local newspaper do not work anymore with my SB3
but did work some months ago.The url:
http://volkskrant.nl/rss/laatstenieuws.rss (Latest headlines in Dutch)
I get the following message: Failed to retrieve RSS feed
Other RSS feeds do work with my SB3 and if I use the above RSS feed in
Firefox Sage it does work as expected.

The strange thing is that it used to work in the past but can't
remember at which level id broke.
It seems that SlimServer got more picky parsing URL's (?).

Can anyone verify if the above feed does work with another SB? Is this
a Slimserver bug?

Thanks!
Willem Oepkes


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