Re: [slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Recoveryone wrote: > maybe you sould go back and read the rest of the thread > and this Jim seems to think on the same level as I do concerning the > mass appeal of this product. Maybe I'm not in the minority. Maybe you should re-read my post and understand that maybe, just *maybe*, I'm actually agreeing with you. Maybe. R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
JimC;167529 Wrote: > > 5. Harmony remotes, which I have yet to try, people seem to think are > the bee's knees. A Harmony with native slimserver support, including > 2-way communication, would be a huge win. If you build it, they will > buy. > > Mumble, mumble...great minds and all that... mumble, mumble. > Hi Jim! I picked up my Squeezebox about a year ago and haven't looked back, but I must agree - the need for a Harmony-type remote with native Slimserver support, along with some sort of 2-way communication is absolutely key to Squeezebox's expansion and success. The biggest complaint I have is the anemic remote that comes with the Squeezebox and the need for me to have a computer running just to access a GUI-type interface. That's one area where the Sonos wins hands down. Cheers! -- EnochLight EnochLight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3392 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
JJZolx wrote: Mike Anderson;167500 Wrote: Based on my own preferences, and from what little I know about other computer users: I think you guys REALLY REALLY need a slick, responsive, clean-running GUI along the lines of the iTunes software. For example, the ability to drag and drop songs to make playlists. A slider to forward or rewind through the song. Something that doesn't have to refresh. Etc. I'd be willing to be that the present software interface (and all its bugs) is the number one reason your average customer shies away from this product. As a programmer, I absolutely LOVE the current web-based software approach. As a rational person, however, I couldn't agree more with Mike. You don't have to drink the Kook-Aid to realize that the vast majority of _potential_ (and a good majority of current) Squeezebox owners are running Windows systems and that they have come to expect a more feature-rich user interface. The software interface IS the face of the device to most people. I think a good native Windows application would sell many tens of thousands of Squeezeboxes. Yes, I agree. A professional version of something Moose would do. One that allows you to easily manage multiple players and doesn't need manual setup and seperate database drivers to download. When you're demoing your SD setup to others the web interface doesn't make as sleek an impression as a dedicated (responsive) application could. Everybody likes things to look good. Imagine spending $2000 on a Transporter and being stuck with the current web interface. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
JimC wrote: SuperQ;167488 Wrote: #1: There's very little need to tell everyone how great the squeezebox is.. everyone that comes over and uses mine realizes that they ARE great. ;) Cool. Can you open up a few hundred more houses for me to send prospective customers to? On a less facetious note, WHY do they realize it's great? Do you have a particularly cool way of demoing the features? Do you hand them the remote and just say "try it"? Any insight on this sudden recognition of greatness phenomenon? I'm looking to understand the dynamic that makes your visitors say to themselves, "Self, I want one of these and I want it now." Because if I can bottle that, I might actually be able to retire someday. Exactly, because in my experience, it's not an easy sell at all. When I show people my Squeezeboxes and tell them how they work their eyes just sort of become blank and they start talking about the weather or something. Part of that is probably because they know I'm technically far ahead of them, what I use must be far ahead of them as well. Even my technical colleagues are slow to warm up. One of them has bought a second hand SB1 now. I know I'm not the world's greatest salesmen, but the product is hard to explain, just check the "I've read and read" thread by metroman. That's fairly typical and he got here because he thought he really wanted one. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Introducing..... me!
Hi Jim Welcome aboard! To that end, I would absolutely love to hear from the community about what you think is great about Slim Devices/Squeezebox/Transporter and about what we can do to make them better. - It's not only about the devices, but about a certain spirit: I like the openness in many levels: open source, cross-platform, APIs for third party developers, addition of the pony to the SB2 (as requested by users) etc. - Many folks are asking for the SqueezeBoombox. When I first saw SB3 I thought: this is the pluggable SB which will fit in a "docking station" - turned out it isn't. But the SB4 could be. Logitech is big in the iPod accessory business. Why not add a (some) docking station(s) which would upgrade the SB4 to a SqueezeBoombox? -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Welcome! Here are my thoughts. When was the last time you bought an item at the store and and had to jump through hoops for a week to get it working and were satisfied with the purchase? The whole system is too complicated for your average Joe Blow. People see/hear the SB3 and think it's great, but then they find out what is involved in setting it up and they balk at the ripping/tagging, network setup, server setup, and etc. I think if you want to go mass market you will need to do some sort of server hardware as someone said in a previous post. If it doesn't work right out of the box it will never become a consumer item. You might even have to start your own "itunes' type operation (or make a deal with one of the existing ones) where you supply CORRECTLY tagged flac files, either a disc or song at a time, that can be ordered via the SB remote control. Maybe set up your own web radio station to play new releases and have a "purchase" button on the remote. Leave out the DRM (digital restrictions management) or forget the whole idea. You may need to think about streaming video, too. I don't think there are many audio only systems left in the world except among audio maniacs. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: on the question of speaker cable
i made my own cables using CAT6 wire. details can be found here www.tnt-audio.com there are a few different configurations and designs, and also an article comparing the different configurations sound and technical wise -- drewe181 http://www.last.fm/user/drewe181/ drewe181's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31297 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
But there's no reason they could not -also- have a slick GUI for Windows and Apple users, say. There is: human resources, limited manpower. BTW: did you ever try Moose (Windows native) or SlimRemote (Java, cross platform, even PDA)? -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
I see all sorts of stuff on different forums running down one brand or another. I think they are all about the same- they have to be or they go out of business in a hurry. Get two of whatever is cheap and use one for backup. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] reputation points
how come when i click on the rep. points icon I have ten (10), yet when i search through my posts, I don't have any that have scored points? is it just so people feel special if nobody else gives them any? -D -- drewe181 http://www.last.fm/user/drewe181/ drewe181's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31335 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
Don't put all your eggs in one hard drive and you can just get the cheapest, if you don't care about silence. So one of whatever's on sale at newegg applied externally and internally. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
i have a 160gig Seagate external that i store both flac and mp3 for use on my squeezbox. i'm yet to have a problem with it and it also looks pretty stylish. i'm sure i've seen these drives in 250gig models too. they don't support firewire but usb 2 is compatible. -- drewe181 http://www.last.fm/user/drewe181/ drewe181's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Odd search/browse behaviour
chris.mason;167249 Wrote: > Note that Search returns Artists, Albums and Song Titles that match > while Advanced Search returns individual tracks. > > There's something wrong with the way Search is working - has anybody > else seen this? Is this another "Various Artist/Compilation Album" > problem? The basic Search (the non-Advanced Search) searches for the string that you enter in 1. Artist names 2. Album titles 3. Track titles It really is a "basic" search. All it's doing is string matching within those items, then listing the items matched. It won't find the composer and then list all the albums or tracks by that composer. If you search for 'vivaldi' then it will list only albums and tracks that have the string 'vivaldi' in the title. But if you find Vivaldi (and listed in the search under Artists), clicking on the name should list all of the albums credited to the composer, so albums are just one additional click away. (Note that for the basic Search to find composers, you'll also need to have 'Composer' checked off under Server Settings > Behavior > COMPOSER, BAND AND ORCHESTRA IN ARTISTS.) BTW, in looking at this I notice that my library has just one album tagged with a composer. It's "The Jerome Kern Songbook", with Jerome Kern as composer on all tracks. If I search for 'kern', then Jerome Kern is found, and if I click the name, the album is shown. But I notice that under Browse Artists, Jerome Kern is nowhere to be found. If you have the server setting mentioned above checked off, are your classical composers listed along with the artists on your system? -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31294 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
The WD Passport I had bad luck with, but it just may have been an unlucky drive failure. But the My Book one, so far I really like. It powers down when USB power is removed. Very quiet and cool when running. The premium models just add more and faster connections. All sizes exist. http://westerndigital.com/en/products/index.asp?cat=5 I have it hooked to an XP laptop slimserver (which sleeps). Complete silence and low power when asleep. The SqueezeBox issues wake-on-lan and it's up and running in about 5 seconds. -- mswlogo mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
JimC;167482 Wrote: > To that end, I would absolutely love to hear from the community about > what you think is great about Slim Devices/Squeezebox/Transporter and > about what we can do to make them better. The main things that made me fell in love with my SqueezeBox 1. You get your whole music library easily accessible, no more CD switching. 2. The sound quality. There are other products that solve point 1, but often they do it in a way that decrease sound quality compared to a standard CD player. 3. The display!. The way you can actually sit in the sofa and see which music is playing is great. This is the thing most of the devices from other companies are missing, they either have no display at all, a small display that can't be seen from the sofa or requires the TV to be on. The display is one of the things that looked even better in place in my livingroom compared to when I read the product pages on internet. I guess you just won't realize its potiential until you see it live. 4. The plugin architecture and open source model. This is something that most normal customers won't think about directly. In my opinion there is a great potential here because it means that Logitech can focus on the core/massmarket functionality and make it really good, simultaneously third party developers will contribute with plugins and extensions to the slimserver code to broaden the functionality to cover all non massmarket interests. 5. Linux support. Since I nowadays runs most of my computers on Linux I would really hate if the linux support would be dropped. Linux also makes it possible to run slimserver all sorts of small footprint devices such as NAS boxes. Point 1 and 3 is the things that will make almost anyone love the SqueezeBox at first sight. Some things that could be improved == 1. The web interface works for me since I don't use it much, but for people used to iTunes or similar applications its a huge step back. Ajax is one solution a Windows client is another. I think the people complaining on the interface are typically Windows (and maybe Mac) users. 2. The server hardware. A thing that has been frequently requested the last year, when I have read these forums, is some sort of server hardware. It is sometimes requested directly and sometimes indirectly as a including server functionallity directly in SqueezeBox making it a non slim device and sometimes by questions about how to install slimserver on NAS boxes. The thing is that most massmarket customers won't like to have their computer running 24 hours a day. Without a 24 hour server I don't think I would love the SqueezeBox as much as I do. The problem is that instead of just switching the SqueezeBox on, I would have to also turn on a noisy computer everytime I want to listen to my music. To keep full flexibility I would suggest that there should be a SqueezeBox offer with both the SqueezeBox and a dedicated preconfigured silent server hardware. This way people which already have a 24 hours server can buy only the SqueezeBox and people which don't can by the SqueezeBox+server package. It's important that the server is preconfigured with slimserver already installed, this would probably get rid of some of the installation problems people are having today. 3. Stability. People are sometimes complaining about slimserver crashes, sometimes due to actual bugs but often due to incorrect configuration or a plugin that doesn't work correctly. With the plugin architecture in slimserver the stability for malfunctioning plugin must be improved, today a malfunctioning plugin will often crash slimserver. Many times the problem is that people are running a plugin version incompatibile with the current slimserver, but sometimes the problems are caused by a bug in the plugin code. 4. Tagging and ripping. Today people must buy/get a separate program to tag and rip their music before it can be used with slimserver. I think the current solution where no ripping/tagging functionality is included in slimserver might be correct, but there is a need to include some sort of tagging/ripping software with the SqueezeBox/slimserver to get it ready for the massmarket. It might be solved by bundling the software with the SqueezeBox or just adding some links and instructions to the slimserver download pages. Thanks for a really great product, keep up the good work. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-trackstat) , 'SQLPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-sqlplaylist) , 'DynamicPlayList' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-dynamicplaylist), 'Custom Browse' (http://erland.homeip.net/download/do/viewapplication?name=slimserver-c
[slim] Re: The Ultimate In-Car System
One of my reasons for stuffing the SB2 in the dash of my car was to be consistent with all the other places I listen to music. Now if I go in my living room, bedroom, office, or car I can listen to anything in my music collection in the same way. I don't have to stop and think what button to press to do a certain task, or is a certain song available. The only thing I ever have to think about is what song to play. I also only use flac files. You can argue that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between flac and mp3 in a moving car, but at least this way if I listen to older music that wasn't recorded that well I know the limitation is the actual music and not a poorly encoded mp3. Actually, I shouldn't say older music since lots of recent music is not recorded very well either. I don't expect to ever see a system designed to work in a car that will support lossless files, have a large amount of storage, and sell for a reasonable amount of money. Too many people have embraced the whole "buy a crippled song with DRM and no physical media for just as much money as a CD" idea. -- Beann50 Beann50's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
JimC wrote: 4. One word (or is it three?): Squeezeboombox. Interesting idea. Complicated, though, in terms of deciding just how good it should sound. Decent audio quality should keep it sub-$500, I would think, but if the audio quality expectations are for something higher it could climb over that. How attractive do you think it would be if it were under $500? How much does that change at more than $500? I'd love to see a cheap squeezeboombox (sub-$500 seems right) that takes advantage of Logitech's existing powered speakers business. People who want high quality sound will buy the existing component products, and plug them into their expensive amps and speakers using expensive cables; the boombox version is for convenience, so I can take my squeezebox out on the deck, or use it as an alarm clock in the bedroom, not for high fidelity listening. My wishlist for a squeezeboombox: - powered stereo speakers built in - knob and buttons on board (at least the buttons above the arrow quad, if not the full remote control pad) - reduced i/o, if that saves costs -- just ethernet in, power in, and headphone out are absolutely required for this kind of device - others have requested battery power, but that's not on my wishlist, and personally I think it would be impractical All IMO, of course. If you came out with one of those, and had some kind of buy two discount like the SB3 had, I'd pre-order two of them, one for my bedroom and one for my daughter's. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] sever fails, drops
I have a SB3. I'm streaming my music from a PowerMac running OS X 10.4.7 with the latest version of iTunes over a wireless network. My problem is that sever will quit unexpectedly. Sometimes it works. Sometimes it doesn't. There doesn't appear to be pattern. Any suggestions. Thanks in advance. -- Michael Rubino Michael Rubino's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2736 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31333 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox mixed with other servers
Thanks and you may be rightbut..I'm not ready to give up just yet.lets see if anyone has additional suggestionsplus new software is being developed all the time. -- bluesdoc bluesdoc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31240 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
The squeeze boom box has been dicussed a number of times and I thought about trying my hand at one (since I'm an Industrial Designer). A squeeze walkman has also been mentioned.. It seems to me that the satellite radio concept could work. Where you have a reciever that plugs into your car or your stereo or a boom box with speakers. Just plug your SB3 into place and it's ready to go. The boom box itself would just need to have the interface, the battery and the speakers. Some controls and a wi-fi booster might be nice as well. -- Mr_Smiley Mr_Smiley's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3213 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox the name...
actually, I like the song a lot. I don't believe that's where the name is from... -- jtwrace jtwrace's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8666 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox the name...
I hope your kidding. -- jtwrace jtwrace's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8666 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox the name...
http://www.thewho.net/linernotes/ByNumbers.htm -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox the name...
I know this is a weird question...where did slim devices get the name Squeezebox? Why? Just curious. -- jtwrace jtwrace's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8666 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31332 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
JimC;167529 Wrote: > (I would insert a comment here to the effect that "that's how I like my > women" but it might misread and since my wife -- who is all three -- > doesn't read these forums I wouldn't be scoring any points with her.) Well as long as she doesn't find out that you "like long walks on the beach, candlelit dinners, and dancing under the stars" or at least the context of that quote, you're okay. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WiFi frustration! (But happy ending... for now)
I was about to ask you some question about your provider, but I notice your in the UK, and from some other posting from people form across the pond I come to learn your providers are like night and day from ours in the US. -- Recoveryone Pioneer Elite Fall in! SqueezeBox 3 Pioneer Elite VSX-81TX Pioneer Elite DV-45A Pioneer Elite M53 CD Pioneer M66R Cassette Server running on P4 2.8 gigHz 2 gig DDR Dual Channel ram Xp Home edtion Sp2 2x 80 gigHD(music/SS on same drive) Linksys 54g wireless router PCI Linksys 54g adapter card w/HG antana Recoveryone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] "Use iTunes", Album Artist, and Album Sort
I'm using iTunes 7 to manage my MP3 collection and use the "Use iTunes" option in SlimServer 6.5. I set my artist value in the MP3's so that they sort by last name (e.g. Lee, Geddy) in both iTunes and SlimServer. I recently discovered that if I filled in the iTunes "Album Artist" field for the songs to be values like "Geddy Lee", then they still stay in last name order but the Cover Flow view of the files shows the Album Artist value. Cool. The downside is that in SlimServer, it's using that Album Artist value for the displayed artist name (nice) but also for the artist sorting (not nice). When I add a TSOP value to the MP3s, that gets ignored, so Geddy Lee still shows up under G instead of L as I would have expected. Turning off "Use iTunes" gets everything back to the way it was before I started filling in Album Artist, but I lose the playlists (and I don't want to deal with writing some utility to auto generate m3u's from the iTunes xml whenever I do an update in iTunes). The reason I don't set artist to Geddy Lee in iTunes is that iTunes doesn't support an artist sort field like TSOP. Is there a way to keep "Use iTunes" on and have SlimServer use the artist sort values for sorting? -- FunkyOdor FunkyOdor's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=183 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31329 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] WiFi frustration! (But happy ending... for now)
Let me spoil this up-front by pointing out that (a) I'm not criticising my lovely SB3, nor SlimServer and (b) this seems to have a happy ending... but this is a tale of how frustrating and infuriatingly incomprehensible wireless network f*ckups can be. Tonight, some newly-ripped flacs just would not play on my SB3 - they started skipping within about a minute of start of play. So I turned on Network Health etc, and the front bit said this: Control Connection : OK Streaming Connection : OK Signal Strength: OK Buffer Fullness: Low Server Response Time : OK Now, how can Buffer Fullness be Low (near the beginning of a 4-minute-plus flac file), but all the others OK? The more detailed server and players stats told pretty much the same story: everything's fine, but the buffer's not filling up fast enough. Why not? My laptop in the same room reported my wireless strength as Excellent, 54mbps. Dashed upstairs to look at the server; no sign that it's having any trouble doing its job. (OK, only using Windows Task Manager...) My laptop noticed a couple of other networks around, but pretty low-strength signals (confirmed by Network Stumbler); and skipping was still happening after they dropped out. (Yes, I have read the wiki pages. No, I haven't had the courage yet to change channel away from 11. But the problem remained even when no other networks were visible.) I was starting to think about enabling bitrate limiting - the last-but-one resort. (Last resort is to dig out the CDs... and hope my aged player doesn't start skipping too!) Then, a few minutes later, my wireless connection suddenly disappeared (though the first evidence was failure to load an SS web page, so for a second I thought the server had died, until the laptop reported No Network). Dashed upstairs again, unplugged the router, resisted the temptation to smash it against the wall... several deep breaths later, plugged it back in. Waited for it to wake up, and then for everything else to notice it. (I'd turned off the SB3 too, though I'm not sure that was necessary.) Since then, all has been fine. (For an hour now, at least.) I still have no idea what really went wrong. Maybe the router was generating a load of junk; maybe something else was. Clearly, Signal Strength does not equal or even necessarily correlate with Actually Useful Information Bandwidth. I probably need some better diagnostic tools. Next time, turning the router off and on again will be the FIRST thing I try. And if that doesn't work, then I *will* smash the little fecker off the wall. I don't buy these things just to waste my days trying to get them to work! Sigh, wireless! It really is a black art. I really am coming round to the view that somewhere there is a WiFi Daemon, whose role is to randomly screw up your network until you perform some sacrifice, such as giving up being in a good mood! So I'm not looking for help - though if anyone recognises this situation and has a better idea of what's happening, I'd like to know. I should add that I'm usually delighted with WiFi - it's made a huge difference to our home entertainment - and wouldn't want to discourage anyone from taking the plunge. But when it does go wrong, it can be bloody frustrating! -- Brian -- Brian Ritchie Brian Ritchie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2319 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31330 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
> Welcome, JimC. Your irreverence should serve you well in this eclectic > community. If only it served me well in real life. > I am one of the oddball contributors to the Slimserver code--in my case, > that is largely restricted to the Nokia770 and Touch skins... Thanks! One of the things that I find most intriguing about this opportunity is the community and the third-party developers. > 1. Don't drink the Windows-only kool-aid. One of the great things about > slimserver is it's cross-platform support. I imagine a great deal of > Logitech products have listed on their box "Requirements: Windows > 2000/XP/Vista". If I ever see that happen to slimserver I'll bail quick > as can be, along with a lot of the other pro-bono contributors to the > software. There are no plans that I know of to switch to Windows-only and I certainly won't be pushing for it. > 2. Stick a knob on the Squeezebox, a la Transporter. If you do a search > of my posts on this forum the word "knob" comes up several dozen times, > and not because I am one. Hehe... he said "knob". > ...I tried to introduce the kind of responsiveness the UI needs with > AJAX in the Nokia770 and Touch skins. While I puff up with pride at the > positive reviews users have given me, I really believe that what I've > done is only a proof-of-concept, and there's a huge amount to be done > in this area. UI should be quick, intuitive, and beautiful. Web > browsers are notoriously poor in these areas, but it's the closest > thing we have to a fully cross-OS GUI development platform, and with > AJAX things can be much better. While I haven't yet used your skins, I understand exactly what you're asking for and I happen to agree with it 100%. I think one of the biggest improvements that can be made to the overall platform is the UI on the PC side. And it does need to be quick, intuitive, and beautiful. (I would insert a comment here to the effect that "that's how I like my women" but it might misread and since my wife -- who is all three -- doesn't read these forums I wouldn't be scoring any points with her.) > What will such an effort require? IMO, head count. I built Nokia770 on > my own time, much like lots of stuff available for slimserver, but > Logitech can't expect all good things to happen via the community. > Invest in one or a couple of good front-end web programmers and reap > the benefits of it down the line. My big hope on the Logitech > transition is that they will backup their acquisition with the > resources (i.e., $$) a large corporation can offer. We do want to -- and plan to -- staff up the resources on all sides of the business, and Dean's group has the biggest needs right now. > 4. One word (or is it three?): Squeezeboombox. Interesting idea. Complicated, though, in terms of deciding just how good it should sound. Decent audio quality should keep it sub-$500, I would think, but if the audio quality expectations are for something higher it could climb over that. How attractive do you think it would be if it were under $500? How much does that change at more than $500? > 5. Harmony remotes, which I have yet to try, people seem to think are > the bee's knees. A Harmony with native slimserver support, including > 2-way communication, would be a huge win. If you build it, they will > buy. Mumble, mumble...great minds and all that... mumble, mumble. > I'd write more, but it's happy hour in Minnesota. Cheers and good luck, And since it is now happy hour here in Mt. View, I'm signing off too. -- JimC JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hitachi Terabyte hard Drive
I started to watch it lastnight, but the Larkers were on TNT HD -- Recoveryone Pioneer Elite Fall in! SqueezeBox 3 Pioneer Elite VSX-81TX Pioneer Elite DV-45A Pioneer Elite M53 CD Pioneer M66R Cassette Server running on P4 2.8 gigHz 2 gig DDR Dual Channel ram Xp Home edtion Sp2 2x 80 gigHD(music/SS on same drive) Linksys 54g wireless router PCI Linksys 54g adapter card w/HG antana Recoveryone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
CatBus;167522 Wrote: > Plus your products look ... GORGEOUS. Haha, how far we've come in this area, eh? A couple of years ago I can hardly have imagined that sentiment being uttered on these forums (well, only mailing lists at that point). -- azinck3 azinck3's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3967 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO only 32K since Slimserver upgrade
I am not sure that you should only be getting 32k streams with your squeezebox. I am sending a message to our Radioio tech person that handles the Slim Devices links and see if I can find out why the 32k is all that's showing. In the meantime, contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll comp you a 30 day soundpass that you can use to listen at 128k WITHOUT the commercials! :) -- radioio.com Robert Robert Goodman Listen to amazing radio at www.radioioBEAT.com (chilled electronica) www.radioioROCK.com (alt & indie rock) radioio.com Robert's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9435 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31108 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
maybe you sould go back and read the rest of the thread and this Jim seems to think on the same level as I do concerning the mass appeal of this product. Maybe I'm not in the minority. -- Recoveryone Pioneer Elite Fall in! SqueezeBox 3 Pioneer Elite VSX-81TX Pioneer Elite DV-45A Pioneer Elite M53 CD Pioneer M66R Cassette Server running on P4 2.8 gigHz 2 gig DDR Dual Channel ram Xp Home edtion Sp2 2x 80 gigHD(music/SS on same drive) Linksys 54g wireless router PCI Linksys 54g adapter card w/HG antana Recoveryone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Problems with internet radio
Can anyone help? Have suddenly started having problems with internet radio. Basically, Alien BBC now doesn't connect most of the time - I get the following message when I try to connect to the BBC stations: 'Can't connect to retrieve playlist' I'm running version Alien BBC 1.06 on SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 2 - Mac OS X 10.4.8. All was working perfectly until a few days ago. Other radio streams seem to work and accessing my music files work perfectly. Any ideas? Thanks. -- Calodoucas Calodoucas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31328 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Jim, Here are the things I love about your products, with commentary: I love that you can download SlimServer and SoftSqueeze and do a better "try before you buy" than anyone else offers. That said, this might not be obvious to people. More availability/demos within brick-and-mortar stores would be great. Maybe even a link off your front page that says "Try before you buy!" with a link to instructions on how to do it. But if you push this, use appropriate warnings that the performance of SoftSqueeze is worse than your players. I love that I can have music "my way". Gapless, organized correctly, with volume normalization, in Ogg Vorbis format--all the things I can't do with iTunes. You have a strong appeal to very anal-retentive people. And lots of music lovers are anal-retentive. I love that you are cross-platform and that your server software is open-source. People have been burned by proprietary incompatibilities in the consumer electronics world before. I like knowing I'm not buying the next Betamax. Plus your products look and sound GORGEOUS. If you could get in-store demos going in a few places, I think people would flip. Also, I rave about your products to everyone who might care. Your customers are happy customers. Testimonials may be helpful to you. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Recoveryone wrote: > Mike Anderson;167500 Wrote: >> Based on my own preferences, and from what little I know about other >> computer users: >> >> I think you guys REALLY REALLY need a slick, responsive, clean-running >> GUI along the lines of the iTunes software. For example, the ability >> to drag and drop songs to make playlists. A slider to forward or >> rewind through the song. Something that doesn't have to refresh. >> Etc. > >> I'd be willing to be that the present software interface (and all its >> bugs) is the number one reason your average customer shies away from >> this product. I would agree. It's great for me (computer professional, linux geek, perl hacker) but there's no way on earth you could give this stuff to your average man-in-the-street. Hopefully, the Logitech tie-up will improve this. > > Howdy Mike, nice to see a AR face in the room. let me warn you up > front about your remarks. Get ready to put up your guard, I said > simular things about the SS interface and been punching my way out of > the corner since on anything I say. No, I think the reaction to your posts was rather more concerned about correcting your factual inaccuracies. R. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
SuperQ;167488 Wrote: > #1: There's very little need to tell everyone how great the squeezebox > is.. everyone that comes over and uses mine realizes that they ARE > great. ;) Cool. Can you open up a few hundred more houses for me to send prospective customers to? On a less facetious note, WHY do they realize it's great? Do you have a particularly cool way of demoing the features? Do you hand them the remote and just say "try it"? Any insight on this sudden recognition of greatness phenomenon? I'm looking to understand the dynamic that makes your visitors say to themselves, "Self, I want one of these and I want it now." Because if I can bottle that, I might actually be able to retire someday. -- JimC JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Recoveryone;167507 Wrote: > let me warn you up front about your remarks. Get ready to put up your > guard, I said simular things about the SS interface and been punching > my way out of the corner since on anything I say. Oh I know, I've been through it before. Let me just say, to all the fine folks who have worked hard to put together the present software interface: I do not mean this as a slight against you, and I sincerely hope you don't take it personally. I realize it is not easy to develop a GUI like iTunes that would work across all platforms, and I do not mean to suggest that the company abandon the web-based interface. But there's no reason they could not -also- have a slick GUI for Windows and Apple users, say. -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Mike Anderson;167500 Wrote: > Based on my own preferences, and from what little I know about other > computer users: > > I think you guys REALLY REALLY need a slick, responsive, clean-running > GUI along the lines of the iTunes software. For example, the ability > to drag and drop songs to make playlists. A slider to forward or > rewind through the song. Something that doesn't have to refresh. > Etc. > > I'd be willing to be that the present software interface (and all its > bugs) is the number one reason your average customer shies away from > this product. As a programmer, I absolutely LOVE the current web-based software approach. As a rational person, however, I couldn't agree more with Mike. You don't have to drink the Kook-Aid to realize that the vast majority of _potential_ (and a good majority of current) Squeezebox owners are running Windows systems and that they have come to expect a more feature-rich user interface. The software interface IS the face of the device to most people. I think a good native Windows application would sell many tens of thousands of Squeezeboxes. Secondly, to appeal to an even greater number of people, the "slim" approach needs to be rethought, perhaps not for all products in the lineup, but certainly an all-in-one solution has been requested by many, many people. The biggest issue is that of needing to run a PC 24/7, and it comes up constantly in these forums. A product that houses a low power consuming server and hard drive(s) within the body of the music device is the logical answer. Last, I think the Transporter missed the intended mark just a little bit. I've seen the analog stage design critiqued by many audiophiles and electronics designers in a number of other audio forums. Not that this makes the Transporter sound any worse (actually, I think it sounds wonderful), just that I don't believe that at its price point it has nearly the appeal to the audiophile crowd as was hoped. If you intend to continue pursuing this market then maybe collaborating with a good, experienced audio electronics designer would be a good idea for future products. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Great Experience with Audioengine Speakers
I'd like to order a pair this weekend. I'm wondering if anyone has additional comments, or would care to comment on other alternatives for self powered speakers? I'm looking to replace my three piece Logitechs with something that has better mid-range and cleaner highs. -- Jazz1 Jazz1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6623 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=22510 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Mike Anderson;167500 Wrote: > Based on my own preferences, and from what little I know about other > computer users: > > I think you guys REALLY REALLY need a slick, responsive, clean-running > GUI along the lines of the iTunes software. For example, the ability > to drag and drop songs to make playlists. A slider to forward or > rewind through the song. Something that doesn't have to refresh. > Etc. > > I'd be willing to be that the present software interface (and all its > bugs) is the number one reason your average customer shies away from > this product. Howdy Mike, nice to see a AR face in the room. let me warn you up front about your remarks. Get ready to put up your guard, I said simular things about the SS interface and been punching my way out of the corner since on anything I say. -- Recoveryone Pioneer Elite Fall in! SqueezeBox 3 Pioneer Elite VSX-81TX Pioneer Elite DV-45A Pioneer Elite M53 CD Pioneer M66R Cassette Server running on P4 2.8 gigHz 2 gig DDR Dual Channel ram Xp Home edtion Sp2 2x 80 gigHD(music/SS on same drive) Linksys 54g wireless router PCI Linksys 54g adapter card w/HG antana Recoveryone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Old Software Version
Perhaps also consider 6.5.1: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/6.5/ -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] - +1.650.210.9400 ext. 3 Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Based on my own preferences, and from what little I know about other computer users: I think you guys REALLY REALLY need a slick, responsive, clean-running GUI along the lines of the iTunes software. For example, the ability to drag and drop songs to make playlists. A slider to forward or rewind through the song. Something that doesn't have to refresh. Etc. I'd be willing to be that the present software interface (and all its bugs) is the number one reason your average customer shies away from this product. -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
Welcome, JimC. Your irreverence should serve you well in this eclectic community. I am one of the oddball contributors to the Slimserver code--in my case, that is largely restricted to the Nokia770 and Touch skins. As such, I've spent a lot of time on the forums and even longer on the code itself, so I have some opinions. They are not organized. They go like this: 1. Don't drink the Windows-only kool-aid. One of the great things about slimserver is it's cross-platform support. I imagine a great deal of Logitech products have listed on their box "Requirements: Windows 2000/XP/Vista". If I ever see that happen to slimserver I'll bail quick as can be, along with a lot of the other pro-bono contributors to the software. 2. Stick a knob on the Squeezebox, a la Transporter. If you do a search of my posts on this forum the word "knob" comes up several dozen times, and not because I am one. 3. The web interface is much maligned, but there is potential for a great deal of usability improvements that would really stimulate customer satisfaction. I tried to introduce the kind of responsiveness the UI needs with AJAX in the Nokia770 and Touch skins. While I puff up with pride at the positive reviews users have given me, I really believe that what I've done is only a proof-of-concept, and there's a huge amount to be done in this area. UI should be quick, intuitive, and beautiful. Web browsers are notoriously poor in these areas, but it's the closest thing we have to a fully cross-OS GUI development platform, and with AJAX things can be much better. What will such an effort require? IMO, head count. I built Nokia770 on my own time, much like lots of stuff available for slimserver, but Logitech can't expect all good things to happen via the community. Invest in one or a couple of good front-end web programmers and reap the benefits of it down the line. My big hope on the Logitech transition is that they will backup their acquisition with the resources (i.e., $$) a large corporation can offer. 4. One word (or is it three?): Squeezeboombox. 5. Harmony remotes, which I have yet to try, people seem to think are the bee's knees. A Harmony with native slimserver support, including 2-way communication, would be a huge win. If you build it, they will buy. I'd write more, but it's happy hour in Minnesota. Cheers and good luck, #!/ben -- bklaas "the Nokia770 skin guy" bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Old Software Version
Is there any way to load the previous version of the SLimServer software? Seems with the new one, I'm missing music from my library, playlists don't update, etc. I'm not very technical, so it seems that this would be the easiest solution. -- thekidct thekidct's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5002 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Old Software Version
http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/ has old releases. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31325 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Anyone running AlienBBC on Mac OSX 10.3.9?
Just a couple of comments to bpa's post. The .tar.bz2 file may unpack to a .tar file automatically. If it does not, then double-clicking on it will unpack it. And a further double-click on the .tar file should unpack it to a folder. This avoids step 4. And also steps 1 and 2 can be avoided in the Terminal by just opening a new folder. But then you will have to use Terminal for the later steps. \ As bpa says, the OS X file is probably for 10.4 - I don't know if it gives more info anywhere. Beyond that, it is actually a GUI version, and the Unix executable mplayer is buried deep inside it. If you want to try it, I can explain how to get the Unix mplayer from it. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30903 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
I've had a Maxtor one (albeit 160GB) for a few years. Never had any problems with it, and they seem to have a good reputation. (Maxtor have been taken over by Seagate I think) -- Hercules Hercules's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8679 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Introducing..... me!
JimC;167482 Wrote: > Hi there. > > My name is Jim Carlton. I'm a Virgo. I like long walks on the beach, > candlelit dinners, and dancing under the stars. > > Wait! That's my match.com ad copy. > > Actually, I'm the new Director of Product Marketing here at Slim -- now > known as the SMS Business Unit at Logitech. Prior to accepting this > role, I was the iPod/MP3 and wireless music business manager for > Logitech in the America's region. And before that, I've had stints as > one of the founders of Virgin Electronics, as a jack-of-lots-of-trades > at Creative Labs, and further back than that just doesn't really > matter. > > My first order of business here is to offload some of the work of > integrating Slim with Logitech, so Sean and Dean can get back to > sleeping once in a while. Overall, I'll be responsible for the > customer-facing aspects of this business, and for helping shape how we > tell the rest of the world about how great the products are... > > To that end, I would absolutely love to hear from the community about > what you think is great about Slim Devices/Squeezebox/Transporter and > about what we can do to make them better. I plan to bring in > additional resources to help expand the community here, as well as > promote our third-party developers and plug-ins as a key value-add for > our products. It would be great to hear what YOU see as how we can > best implement that, as well. > > If you have any questions, feedback, gripes, or just want me to finish > that match.com ad, let me know. #1: There's very little need to tell everyone how great the squeezebox is.. everyone that comes over and uses mine realizes that they ARE great. ;) #2: Service/Support.. a: I've never had a problem dealing with SD support people, they answer questions simply and without any hand waving. b: Software updates, including new product features for "old" hardware are great.. the fact that you can still use a slimp3 with slimserver 6.5 is great. (I have a server built by a company that got bought by HP, now I can't get any software for it. bad!) -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
I've still got a Lacie external firewire drive that I'm stuck with, 1 replacement, 2 repairs, 3 psus, all in two years, do I trust it now HA! Oh and rather unresponsive customer services, who still refuse to give a refund! (I was even told when units have been repaired five times still no refunds are given) Just what you want for a nice safe back up device :) So I know a make that I would stear well clear of. -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Live 365 problem
Kyle hold the left arrow on your remote for 5 seconds and scroll down to current settings and hit the right arrow, then scroll down to DNS server(s), does it look like a logical Internet IP address or is it all 0s? The issue might just be your player not having proper DNS information from your ISP. If this is the case, simply reboot your router and your Squeezebox, then enjoy. If you need further help I'm here 'till 7pm PDT. -- Ross L Ross Levine - Slim Devices Technical Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] - +1.650.210.9400 ext. 3 Ross L's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4416 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31143 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Introducing..... me!
Hi there. My name is Jim Carlton. I'm a Virgo. I like long walks on the beach, candlelit dinners, and dancing under the stars. Wait! That's my match.com ad copy. Actually, I'm the new Director of Product Marketing here at Slim -- now known as the SMS Business Unit at Logitech. Prior to accepting this role, I was the iPod/MP3 and wireless music business manager for Logitech in the America's region. And before that, I've had stints as one of the founders of Virgin Electronics, as a jack-of-lots-of-trades at Creative Labs, and further back than that just doesn't really matter. My first order of business here is to offload some of the work of integrating Slim with Logitech, so Sean and Dean can get back to sleeping once in a while. Overall, I'll be responsible for the customer-facing aspects of this business, and for helping shape how we tell the rest of the world about how great the products are... To that end, I would absolutely love to hear from the community about what you think is great about Slim Devices/Squeezebox/Transporter and about what we can do to make them better. I plan to bring in additional resources to help expand the community here, as well as promote our third-party developers and plug-ins as a key value-add for our products. It would be great to hear what YOU see as how we can best implement that, as well. If you have any questions, feedback, gripes, or just want me to finish that match.com ad, let me know. -- JimC JimC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31324 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Itunes and aiif
geraint smith;167289 Wrote: > isn't 48kHz actually quite a good thing because many sound cards > surreptitiously work on that rate? And yes, as far as I'm concerned > it's iTunes' inability to rip at 24 bit that is its biggest drawback. IMHO, the fact that iTunes can't rip from a 16-bit source to a 24-file file isn't really a drwaback... those last 8-bits would be ZEROs and just take up space. Especially if you're going to transcode to a different format, it really doesn't make sense. 48kHz is marginally better than 44.1kHz, but was really developed to use with VIDEO. All video source material has an audio SR of 48kHz (or 96kHz or 192kHz). There's still a brickwall at 20kHz in most D/A filters (obviously only at 48kHz). As mmcguff has mentioned above, AIFF files do not have room for a lot of metadata within the file for TAGS and such. Recording studios and Production facilities are moving to BWF (Broadcast Wave File) as the new 'standard' format due to its ability to store large amounts of metadata. I'd LOVE it if FLAC was a new format for OS 10.5 but would be surprised since Apple spent so much effort on their own lossless codec. Still... -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hitachi Terabyte hard Drive
Did anyone see Wired on PBS HD last week? Something about viruses as storage, and memory that can be injected into a being. I think Panasonic has taken over or is funding research now. I didn't catch it all so sorry about lack of details. Google wasn't much help. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've read and read .............
Thank you all, I have now got this kit in my head, albeit simply; I appreciate the functionality of the Squeezebox but it is so heavily computer dependant I think I'll pass..at the moment. metroman. -- metroman metroman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9424 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] External Hard Drives -- Most reliable (least likely to fail) brand?
I'm looking at external hard drives, 300-500 GB in size. Does anyone have an opinion on what brands are least likely to fail? thanks -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike Anderson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1705 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31321 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've read and read .............
let me fill in a few gaps for you: 1. you need a network running in your home, if want the use the Squessze network you need broadband internet ( and yes you will enjoy that feature) 2. you need a computer (full system) Powered up, OS on it, and a drive large enough to hold all your music files and future files (nothing less than 20gig to start I suggest) This computer does not need to be a barn burner any PC/Mac running 800mhz or better will due. Ram is not that important, but the more the better (256 min)IMHO. 3. all of this needs to be connected to the network (hardwired or wirlelessly) the Squeeze Box can connect either way up to you. -- Recoveryone Pioneer Elite Fall in! SqueezeBox 3 Pioneer Elite VSX-81TX Pioneer Elite DV-45A Pioneer Elite M53 CD Pioneer M66R Cassette Server running on P4 2.8 gigHz 2 gig DDR Dual Channel ram Xp Home edtion Sp2 2x 80 gigHD(music/SS on same drive) Linksys 54g wireless router PCI Linksys 54g adapter card w/HG antana Recoveryone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: on the question of speaker cable
tomjtx;167461 Wrote: > Paul's IC's are harder to DIY. > You can get the 12 guage but I'm not sure where. You can probably > google it. > It's maybe better not to terminate it, just sand off the insulation. I > kinda wish I had done that and bought the A-C IC's. The ICs are harder, yes, but not terribly so. I've had my hands on on a Neutrik XLR connector and soldering magnet wire to the terminals in that would be no more difficult than stranded lead wire. Sourcing the 12 guage wire wouldn't be a problem for me. It's just explaining to the boss why we have it that becomes difficult... Unfortunately for me I don't have the free air from my amp to speakers to make this really work for me. If I ever get some new furniture for my setup I'll have to consider making a set. -- 4mula1 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31297 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ripping speed
There is an option in iTunes when importing "USE ERROR CORRECTION WHEN READING AUDIO CDs". Since you are ripping as AIFF (which is a RAW file format and does not use any compression, like FLAC or AAC does) there's nothing else to change. You should, however, make SURE you have it set to AUTOMATIC and NOT CHANGE THE SAMPLE RATE. (are you the guy that was ripping AIFF at 48k and posted somewhere else?). Even though SlimServer can playback other sample rates, you will NOT be able to re-burn 48k files to an audio CD, as they MUST be 44.1kHz. SAMPLE RATE IS NOT THE SAME AS BIT RATE, i.e. 128k, 256k, 320k, whatever. -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31319 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've read and read .............
No, the Pikaone is a pure USB box, so no ethernet for it. But you can run Slimserver on your desktop upstairs... and play music downstairs just fine (assuming either wire or wirelss works down there for ethernet). My setup: a server that is hiding under an otherwise useless Bar (I rarely drink booze, so the bar is useless) and Squeezeboxes in the Living Room and Bedroom. I can choose to play songs without ever removing my ass from the sofa or bed, or going anywhere near the PC. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: on the question of speaker cable
4mula1;167453 Wrote: > My employer manufactures electrical coils so I am very familiar with > magnet wire. Just not in an application such as this. You mentioned > Radio Shack and they sell 22AWG and finer magnet wire, where Anti Cable > has 12AWG. That's an enormous difference! > > These are definitely something I could make at work. Too bad the > largest wire we have is 14AWG. Paul Speltz is right, they are easy to > make. He's making a very nice margin on these... Paul's IC's are harder to DIY. You can get the 12 guage but I'm not sure where. You can probably google it. It's maybe better not to terminate it, just sand off the insulation. I kinda wish I had done that and bought the A-C IC's. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31297 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've read and read .............
If it is simply an external drive, then you will need a computer to run SlimServer and access that drive. SlimServer will then stream your music from that drive to the Squeezebox. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hitachi Terabyte hard Drive
Yeah, there's a reason. Basically, the prediction is actually the storage density, which they say will get to 50 Tb within the next decade. The 'article' (http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,72387-0.html) extrapolates that to a current 3.5 in hard drive area, giving the 37.5 TB figure. -- ezkcdude DIY projects page: http://www.ezdiyaudio.com System: SB3->EZDAC->MIT Terminator 2 interconnects->Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)->Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier->Speltz anti-cables->DIY 2-ways + Dayton Titanic 10" subwoofer He's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: on the question of speaker cable
adamslim;167437 Wrote: > Hey that's good to hear - I just ordered some anti-cables just to see - > for the price, you can't go wrong! The thing that actually made me > order, though, was their rigidity - in my setup, I need to train the > cables around the room perimeter, 2-3 feet above floor level. I think > I can do this with the Antis when I couldn't with most others. > > Happily, I have never spent 3k (or even close!) on cables! > > Adam The 3,000.00 was retail and I got 40% off. Big deal :1,800.00 was still WAY too much to pay:-) In my defense I plead temporary insanity and the folly of youth(it was 10 years ago) I think you will be delighted with the anti cable. I am thinking about his IC's but since I only have balanced gear they are a bit pricey. Still inasanely cheap compared to my current IC's. I'll come out way ahead when I sell the old wire. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31297 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've read and read .............
The Pikaone external drive has no way to connect to the internet but can be independantly powered unless the pc is on. Will the Sqeezebox "see" the Pikaone if it powered alone after initial configuration obviously? metroman -- metroman metroman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9424 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: on the question of speaker cable
tomjtx;167378 Wrote: > Yes, I am serious about magnet wire and many others are too. The Anti > Cables sound better than my previous 3,000.00 cable and I liked them > better than the top Nordhost I auditioned! > Speltz of Anti Cable lists the measured imedance, and capacitance etc. > both twisted and untwisted, which is more than a lot of cable > manufacturers do. > > Bending does nothing to degrade the sound acording to Speltz and he > tests all this stuff. > > The Anti's are the best speaker cable I have had in my system and are > dirt cheap. > So cheap you should give them a try, I think he offers a trial. > Or go to RS and spend 10.00 and give it a try. Most people sell their > expensive wire after doing this. > > Maybe you won't like them but it's a very cheap experiment. My employer manufactures electrical coils so I am very familiar with magnet wire. Just not in an application such as this. You mentioned Radio Shack and they sell 22AWG and finer magnet wire, where Anti Cable has 12AWG. That's an enormous difference! These are definitely something I could make at work. Too bad the largest wire we have is 14AWG. Paul Speltz is right, they are easy to make. He's making a very nice margin on these... -- 4mula1 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31297 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Anyone running AlienBBC on Mac OSX 10.3.9?
I don't have an Apple system so the following is my "guess" at what you need to do based on Linux experience and the Jon Simpson's blog . 1. Open a Terminal Window - this will be a command line interface. 2. cd to a directory where you will store the mplayer source and you will build the new mplayer executable. For example (comments in brackets - do not type) : a. cd(this will bring you to home directory) b. mkdir mplayersrc (this will make a directory called mplayersrc) c. cd mplayersrc 3. From OSX GUI Download a copy of MPlayer-1.0pre8.tar.bz2 (found here http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/MPlayer-1.0pre8.tar.bz2) and move it into the mplayersrc (or whatever you named it) directory 4. Using Terminal window where you are currently in the mplayersrc directory and now contains the MPlayer-1.0pre8.tar.bz2 file. Use the following command to unpack the tar file - you should lots of text scrolling past - a line per file tar xvjf MPlayer-1.0pre8.tar.bz2 5. There be one new directory MPlayer-1.0pre8. cd to this directory 6. Type the following command not the leading dot and slash ./configure --disable-gl --disable-x11 Some users have used the following but it makes no sense with the disable-X11 option. ./configure --disable-gl --disable-x11 –with-freetype-config=/usr/X11R6/bin/freetype-config 7. Assuming no errors - type the following command and compilation should start with lots of text scrolling over the screen make 8 Assuming no errors type the following to test - you should get a banner ./mplayer --version If you have errors after steps 7 - post the error messages. 9 If mplayer is OK with a banner then you need to install mplayer but I'm not sure excactly where. Post when you get this far. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30903 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've read and read .............
metroman;167444 Wrote: > Thank you for the quick replies everyone. I am now getting the picture. > I have a pc upstairs connected to the internet. I have a pikaone 300 > gig external drive (USB / RCA only)could this act as my server? > metroman yep, that's the way to do it. Go download slimserver from the support tab on the website, install it on the server.. and then using your laptop, you can test softsqeeze.. if you like the way it works, you can buy a squeezebox. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've read and read .............
Thank you for the quick replies everyone. I am now getting the picture. I have a pc upstairs connected to the internet. I have a pikaone 300 gig external drive (USB / RCA only)could this act as my server? metroman -- metroman metroman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9424 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Ripping speed
KeithL;167434 Wrote: > I use itunes to rip to aiff at the highest setting. I have asked this > before but received no replies. Does it matter what speed the cd is > being read at? Itunes does not allow me to control the read speed. I am > looking for the highest quality. > Keith If you're looking for highest quality, you should use a "secure" ripper like EAC or cdparanoia. If you have a windows, EAC is the way to go, if you have a mac, supposedly http://sbooth.org/Max/ this is good. See the guide in the wiki: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?BeginnersGuideToRipping -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31319 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: on the question of speaker cable
tomjtx;167378 Wrote: > The Anti Cables sound better than my previous 3,000.00 cable and I liked > them better than the top Nordhost I auditioned! > > > > The Anti's are the best speaker cable I have had in my system and are > dirt cheap. > So cheap you should give them a try, I think he offers a trial. > Or go to RS and spend 10.00 and give it a try. Most people sell their > expensive wire after doing this. > > Maybe you won't like them but it's a very cheap experiment. Hey that's good to hear - I just ordered some anti-cables just to see - for the price, you can't go wrong! The thing that actually made me order, though, was their rigidity - in my setup, I need to train the cables around the room perimeter, 2-3 feet above floor level. I think I can do this with the Antis when I couldn't with most others. Happily, I have never spent 3k (or even close!) on cables! Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31297 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: FLAC Vs WAV
mswlogo;167344 Wrote: > I think the most useful feature of FLAC is that the file is checksummed > but WAV is not. > > So when you mass convert your library you basically check the quality > of your "masters". If you use WAV it will happily read garbage. Hi mswlogo, Can you give me more inforamtion. I don't understand how this works. thanks -- Greg Erskine Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I've read and read .............
and I still don't know if this Squeezebox is for me! I want a jukebox set-up. If I connect my laptop to my hi-fi then this gives me a Jukebox so why the Squeezebox?. - because you don't want a computer sitting on your hi-fi - because you'll want to share the same music experience in your bedroom, office, bathroom, kitchen... - because besides the noise your laptop makes the soundcard is of mediocre quality - because you don't want to get up from the couch to change a song, but prefer using a remote ...and I'm sure there are more reasons. Once the Squeezebox "has indexed" all the music on my laptop then there is no need for the laptop to be turned on? You'll still a computer running slimserver. The Squeezebox without a server doesn't play anything. BUT this computer can be one of the Squeezenetwork servers: connect your SB to the Squeezenetwork, shut down your laptop, and you'll still be able to listen to internet radio, Pandora, Podcasts etc. Someone SELL this to me please. metroman. I'm no salesman. But a few years back the then state of the art SliMP3 changed the way I was listening to my music. I quickly gave up the computer on my hi-fi idea. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I've read and read .............
Hi, In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, metroman<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and I still don't know if this Squeezebox is for me! I want a > jukebox set-up. If I connect my laptop to my hi-fi then this gives me a > Jukebox so why the Squeezebox?. The audio output from the Squeezebox is likely to be significantly better than that you'd get from the laptop. Also, the Squeezebox is a small device that can sit in with your HiFi system. The PC that has your music can be anywhere in the house (so long as the SB can connect to it over wired or wireless network. > Once the Squeezebox "has indexed" all the music on my laptop then there is > no need for the laptop to be turned on? No. The Squeezebox just receives a 'stream' of audio from somewhere, so this source (either a PC with your own music or SqueezeNetwork) must be always available. Andy ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RSS / Weathertime Screensavers not working
Durrr, what a plonker. I didn't have either my gateway ip address or isp ip address in resolve.conf Could wget and ping ip address but not get dns lookup back. Solved and happy. -- heyho heyho's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31289 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Ripping speed
I use itunes to rip to aiff at the highest setting. I have asked this before but received no replies. Does it matter what speed the cd is being read at? Itunes does not allow me to control the read speed. I am looking for the highest quality. Keith -- KeithL KeithL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9272 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31319 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Free Music Thread - Legally
Please head over to the Music forum and check this post. "Free Music Thread - Legally" Trying to compile a list of free music sources without DRM protection. Much appreciated. -- jrmeade77 jrmeade77's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9426 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31318 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hitachi Terabyte hard Drive
ezkcdude;167409 Wrote: > If you like that, have you heard that Seagate predicts a 37.5TB HDD > within a few years? Wow that's precise. Those will be the days that the odd 500GB will be neither here nor there, I feel :) -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost cables adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: I've read and read .............
You still need a computer on somewhere for a Squeezebox, running SlimServer (SlimServer is the software that indexes tracks, and it is still stored on the PC). One difference is that the computer can be located very very far away from the stereo. So if your computer makes noise, it no longer impacts the music. Another difference is that the analog output from the Squeezebox almost definitely sounds much better that the analog output from your sound card. Again, it'll sound better. If you use an optical connection, though, it's the same. Another difference is that the Squeezebox is easier to work with. It's not as heavy, it has a handy easy-to-use remote control, and although I still wouldn't recommend it, it's probably a bit safer to use in a hazardous party-like environment where one spilled drink could fry your laptop for good. And finally, Squeezebox supports lots of features that aren't even supported by some big-name PC jukebox software. Features like: gapless playback, automatic volume adjustment (that CD from the eighties won't be all quiet compared to your other CDs anymore), ARTISTSORT (want Bob Dylan sorted under "D"? No problem!), etc. It's worth it. Really. Every penny. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I've read and read .............
On 1/5/07, metroman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and I still don't know if this Squeezebox is for me! I want a jukebox set-up. If I connect my laptop to my hi-fi then this gives me a Jukebox so why the Squeezebox?. Once the Squeezebox "has indexed" all the music on my laptop then there is no need for the laptop to be turned on? everything can then be called up on the Squeezebox, album, track, genre, whatever, rather like my mp3 player? Internet radio is a low priority but accessing ALL my mp3's at a touch is a priority. Someone SELL this to me please. metroman. The SB doesn't have any storage of its own so you'll need a laptop or other server on in order to serve up your mp3's. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] I've read and read .............
and I still don't know if this Squeezebox is for me! I want a jukebox set-up. If I connect my laptop to my hi-fi then this gives me a Jukebox so why the Squeezebox?. Once the Squeezebox "has indexed" all the music on my laptop then there is no need for the laptop to be turned on? everything can then be called up on the Squeezebox, album, track, genre, whatever, rather like my mp3 player? Internet radio is a low priority but accessing ALL my mp3's at a touch is a priority. Someone SELL this to me please. metroman. -- metroman metroman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9424 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31317 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Smiles and Kisses
aubuti;167397 Wrote: > Thanks for the info, but it seems to me that the relevant comparisons > are missing. How does the "retrieved" mp3 sound compared to the direct > stream of the flac (or the CD)? And as someone else suggested, how does > the direct stream flac compare to the "retrieved" flac? Keeping in mind > the earlier good suggestions about volume settings, replaygain, etc. Let me see if I can hit this nail on the head this time. The retriever sounded Mp3 was more of a fuller sound than without it on. Compare to direct stream the same. I only compared the lossless file against the CD, due that I knew that was such a high level rip, But I will do the same with the Mp3 and get back to you. -- Recoveryone Pioneer Elite Fall in! SqueezeBox 3 Pioneer Elite VSX-81TX Pioneer Elite DV-45A Pioneer Elite M53 CD Pioneer M66R Cassette Server running on P4 2.8 gigHz 2 gig DDR Dual Channel ram Xp Home edtion Sp2 2x 80 gigHD(music/SS on same drive) Linksys 54g wireless router PCI Linksys 54g adapter card w/HG antana Recoveryone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31237 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Hitachi Terabyte hard Drive
If you like that, have you heard that Seagate predicts a 37.5TB HDD within a few years? -- ezkcdude DIY projects page: http://www.ezdiyaudio.com System: SB3->EZDAC->MIT Terminator 2 interconnects->Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)->Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier->Speltz anti-cables->DIY 2-ways + Dayton Titanic 10" subwoofer He's not hi-fi, he's my stereo. ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Dean Blackketter
Prolly some kalua pork... -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31261 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Hitachi Terabyte hard Drive
Mm tasty. http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20070105/tc_pcworld/128400 -- dwc dwc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31314 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Smiles and Kisses
Thanks for the info, but it seems to me that the relevant comparisons are missing. How does the "retrieved" mp3 sound compared to the direct stream of the flac (or the CD)? And as someone else suggested, how does the direct stream flac compare to the "retrieved" flac? Keeping in mind the earlier good suggestions about volume settings, replaygain, etc. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31237 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox mixed with other servers
In that case it doesn't sound like the SB is for you. which is a shame -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31240 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Smiles and Kisses
aubuti;167369 Wrote: > VBR is Variable bitrate and CBR is Constant bitrate. The VBR compression > algorithm uses higher bitrates for more complex music, and lower > bitrates for less complex music. So for less complex music it throws > away more data, yielding smaller file sizes. If the same VBR quality > setting was used for all the files, and your ears tell you that the VBR > files with lower bitrates sound worse, then it's not doing a good job of > choosing the bitrate. If the lower bitrate is the result of choosing a > lower quality setting, then you should expect it to sound worse. > > The Sound Retriever sound was barely improved from *which* direct > stream, the mp3 or the flac? Also, you explained why you list your gear > in your sig, but I don't see any speakers in that list thank you for the information, I had a feeling that was it just wanted to be sure. When I played the Mp3 files of the CD, I played the same songs using the Sound Retirever (normal stereo) and without it on, the retriever does not work in Direct stream. I had my wife switch the settings back and forth so I would not know the setting when listening. That way I could not be bias. Speakers: Center..Jensen CCS (not used for music listening) Fronts..Optimus LS30 (mounted 7' up 20 deg tilt down) Sub.Optimus Pro Sw200 Rears...Optimus Pro X77s (not used for music listening) One other feature on the receiver that made big diffirence is the use of the MCACC setup system. It uses a mic and test tones to set your system to your rooms enviroment, hardwood floors/carpeting/sound refection off walls/speaker distance..etc With my old receiver I used an analog sound meter (hand held), but I could only set it for the HT mode. this new one does it for each type of listening mode you want. -- Recoveryone Pioneer Elite Fall in! SqueezeBox 3 Pioneer Elite VSX-81TX Pioneer Elite DV-45A Pioneer Elite M53 CD Pioneer M66R Cassette Server running on P4 2.8 gigHz 2 gig DDR Dual Channel ram Xp Home edtion Sp2 2x 80 gigHD(music/SS on same drive) Linksys 54g wireless router PCI Linksys 54g adapter card w/HG antana Recoveryone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9205 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31237 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Anyone running AlienBBC on Mac OSX 10.3.9?
I'll post a more detailed response late this evening on the steps but to answer the last post. The first file is a compressed tar file (Linux' version of zip) of the source code - this is the file you need. The second MD5 file is a checksum to ensure that the first first hasn't been infected by virus etc. The OSX file is a OSX compiled version of mplayer but I think it is for 10.4 (Intel & PowerPC). -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30903 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: on the question of speaker cable
4mula1;167348 Wrote: > You can't be serious about using magnet wire! Most decent speaker wire > I have seen has had a high strand count to not only help in flexibility > but to reduce impedance. Magnet wire would be relatively stiff and > would have a higher impedance than a stranded wire. Any repeated > bending would degrade the magnet wire's performance in a speaker wire > application. > > Plus an enameled wire won't be as forgiving of surface damage (abrasion > etc.) as an extruded insulation would be. Yes, I am serious about magnet wire and many others are to. The Anti Cables sound better than my previous 3,000.00 cable and I liked them better than the top Nordhost I auditioned! Speltz of Anti Cable lists the measured imedance, and capacitance etc. both twisted and untwisted, which is more than a lot of cable manufacturers do. Bending does nothing to degrade the sound as Speltz shows with measurments. The Anti's are the best speaker cable I have had in my system and are dirt cheap. So cheap you should give them a try, I think he offers a trial. Or go to RS and spen 10.00 and give it a try. Most people sell their expensive wire after doing this. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31297 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] on the question of speaker cable
Well, copper may be copper, but speaker wires do sound different. I recently tried a few, all copper, and preferred a Chinese cable, Yingwang I think. But for now i'm using blue jeans cable that's $0.79/Ft . The gray version is $0.59/Ft. :-D They use Belden cable. On 1/5/07, Solvason-Pastuch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dazm At the frequencies in question, under 20KHz, copper is copper is copper. Want to spend big bucks on Monster Cable, etc., go for it, but you won't hear any differerence. Impresses people, though. Go to your local Home Depot and check out the zip cord, bigger the better. Russ - Original Message - From: "dazm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 8:50 AM Subject: [slim] on the question of speaker cable > > hi ,what do i look for in speaker cable quality,apart from the price > theres a lot to choose from,thanks dazm > > > -- > dazm > > dazm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8915 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31297 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Smiles and Kisses
VBR is Variable bitrate and CBR is Constant bitrate. The VBR compression algorithm uses higher bitrates for more complex music, and lower bitrates for less complex music. So for less complex music it throws away more data, yielding smaller file sizes. If the same VBR quality setting was used for all the files, and your ears tell you that the VBR files with lower bitrates sound worse, then it's not doing a good job of choosing the bitrate. If the lower bitrate is the result of choosing a lower quality setting, then you should expect it to sound worse. The Sound Retriever sound was barely improved from *which* direct stream, the mp3 or the flac? Also, you explained why you list your gear in your sig, but I don't see any speakers in that list -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31237 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Anyone running AlienBBC on Mac OSX 10.3.9?
One other thing, bpa. I see on the mplayer site three similar files to the one you mention, and I'm not sure which I need. They are: MPlayer-1.0pre8.tar.bz2 MPlayer-1.0pre8.tar.bz2.md5 (tiny) MPlayerOSX-1.0pre8.dmg The first looks nearest to what you describe, but the third does have 'OSX' in it. Which is the one I need? -- whitman whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30903 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Anyone running AlienBBC on Mac OSX 10.3.9?
Again thank you, bpa. OK, I've installed Xcode successfully. I'm about to get the mplayer tar file you specify, but presumably first I should dump the non-working mplayer bits and pieces I already have. When I've done all that, where do I type the 'configure', 'make' and 'make install' commands you mention? Is that somewhere in Xcode? And yes, hopefully once I've got it all going, I can send you the working program for others to use. -- whitman whitman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9053 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30903 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: on the question of speaker cable
How about stringing coat hangers together? If you're afraid they'll short, wrap 'em with masking tape. That blue stuff looks pretty neat. Here's what I did (halfway down the page): http://www.theheals.org/jon/hi_fi.asp -- jonheal Jon Heal says: Have a nice day! http://www.theheals.org/ jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31297 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Itunes and aiif
One mild warning about ripping to aiff files: There seems to be some sort of issue in more recent versions of Slimserver with not reading all the tag information correctly (for me, at least). If I have "use iTunes" turned off, Slimserver seems to only sporadically pick up certain tag fields (disk #, composer, occasionally even some more common fields), sometimes doing different things for different tracks of the same CD. It DOES seem to work properly if I have "use iTunes" turned on, but then it isn't really reading track info from the files, but from your iTunes XML file. (Why would you want to set "use iTunes" off? Well, for example, I don't want my audiobooks to show up in Slimserver, so I keep them in a separate directory and just have Slimserver scan the music folder. I wish I knew a different way to exclude a genre from Slimserver without affecting iTunes...) I did try to bring this up with Slimdevices tech support, but was told that Slimserver didn't support tags in aiff files and they were just like wav files, where it tries to figure out the info from directory structure. This clearly is not the case (otherwise how could it pick up composer info for at least SOME tracks?), but the person I was emailing lost interest when I found that setting "use iTunes" on would take care of things, so I doubt anybody is actually looking into the intermittent way tag info is read. I have heard rumors that the next version of OS X (Leopard) might support FLAC files natively. If that DOES turn out to be true, then I will be converting everything over to FLAC's, but for the time being aiff's seem a decent choice, if you have the disk space. -- mmcguff mmcguff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5278 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31176 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Radio Paradise
On 1/5/07, andyg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yikes that's a lot of work. Have you tried setting the HTTP Proxy option in SlimServer? That should tell the SB2/3 to connect to streams using that proxy server. Agreed. I won't be using it myself as I find 128K RP is sufficient on my setup. Also, I suspect that it might not work on Windows because it might be very tightly integrated with the media players. I don't understand how setting the HTTP proxy settings would help because I don't actually have a proxy server. Octoshape is a *sort* of proxy server, but not an *actual* proxy server. The only stream it will serve is the one it was launched with. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Radio Paradise
Yikes that's a lot of work. Have you tried setting the HTTP Proxy option in SlimServer? That should tell the SB2/3 to connect to streams using that proxy server. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31305 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Radio Paradise
On 1/5/07, andyg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
That's a bummer, Octoshape is a proprietary technology so there's no
information on how to support something like that. At least you can
still listen to their normal stream.
Definitely a bummer. Maybe there is hope: I was able to listen to the
Octoshape stream on my SliMP3 (but not SB2/3!) using this technique:
FWIW, I did some messin' around on my Linux machine w/SlimServer and it
looks like Octoshape acts as a sort of proxy server. It launches and
handles the network connection to the various peers and produces a standard
local mp3 radio stream for the local client (the stream is only accessible
to localhost, which is important as you'll see).
I wrote a stupid-simple C program to act as a proxy (octoproxy):
#include
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
int i;
char str[2];
for(i=0;i
Then I launched the Octoshape client using this URL:
OctoshapeClient -url:octoshape:PARADISE.stream1_mp3
Next, I did a 'ps ax' command and found this URL waiting for me:
11988 pts/0S+ 0:00 octoproxy
http://127.0.0.1:6498/ms/mp3/XFAEBFCEBEEEJFDEFCOHDHEHCGFGBGNDBFPGNHADD/1168020463805/octoshape.mp3
I pasted this URL into Radio Tune-In on my SliMP3 player page and the music
started instantly. I did the same process for my SB2 and SB3 devices and it
did not work -- I eventually narrowed this down to the fact that the SB
player was attempting to connect to the URL directly rather than letting
SlimServer do it. For older devices, they don't connect to radio stations
directly.
Anyway, maybe there's hope The right helper program and the right
command-line manipulation could automate most, if not all of this. Is there
any way to force SlimServer to stream the URL rather than having the player
connect to the URL?
Ben
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[slim] Re: on the question of speaker cable
tomjtx;167329 Wrote: > Or, go to Radio Shack and buy magnet wire and DIY for about 20 cents per > foot. You can't be serious about using magnet wire! Most decent speaker wire I have seen has had a high strand count to not only help in flexibility but to reduce impedance. Magnet wire would be relatively stiff and would have a higher impedance than a stranded wire. Any repeated bending would degrade the magnet wire's performance in a speaker wire application. Plus an enameled wire won't be as forgiving of surface damage (abrasion etc.) as an extruded insulation would be. -- 4mula1 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31297 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
