Re: [slim] Controller software updates
Echo;279478 Wrote: I think your update notice may have been triggered because you installed erland's plug-in. The plugin has nothing to do with Controller software updates, but you probably restarted SqueezeCenter when you installed the plugin and that might have triggered download of new Controller firmware. -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller software updates
erland;279480 Wrote: The plugin has nothing to do with Controller software updates, but you probably restarted SqueezeCenter when you installed the plugin and that might have triggered download of new Controller firmware. That's what I meant to say but I wasn't clear enough - thanks for the clarification. -- Echo Echo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wanted: used slimp3
I purchased my Slimp3 (which I still use) 6 years ago. I bought it to replace my Turtle Beach Audiotron (remember those?) which was a royal pain to use (but very, very cool back in late 2000!) I was lucky and sold that unit on eBay for the same amount I bought it for. The arrival of Slimp3 was my excuse to get rid of the Audiotron since after going the route of using a home Digital Music Server I just couldn't handle going back to playing CDs exclusively :-) By the way, I still think the Slimp3 is the coolest looking compared to all generations of the Squeezebox. Anyone else agree? -- ptrainer ptrainer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44699 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wanted: used slimp3
ptrainer;279483 Wrote: I purchased my Slimp3 (which I still use) 6 years ago. I bought it to replace my Turtle Beach Audiotron (remember those?) which was a royal pain to use (but very, very cool back in late 2000!) I was lucky and sold that unit on eBay for the same amount I bought it for. The arrival of Slimp3 was my excuse to get rid of the Audiotron since after going the route of using a home Digital Music Server I just couldn't handle going back to playing CDs exclusively :-) By the way, I still think the Slimp3 is the coolest looking compared to all generations of the Squeezebox. Anyone else agree? My first digital server was embedded (still is) in my AV receiver Onkyo TX NR801 - the server interface is clunky at best, sound is superb as it contains a DAC for each channel. 7.1 capable. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44699 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Error: Couldn't install MySQL as a service!
Something I don't understand... You don't need to. Doesn't the Windows installer install the MySQL service? No it doesn't. Or is the MySQL service really installed by SC when it's run? It is. I don't have the answer for your next question why?, though. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SS Path for multiple external usb HDD
On a Mac which I use, the nearest equivalent to a Windows shortcut is an alias, which is easy to create. However, SS does not use aliases, SC 7.0.1 now has support for aliases. Please give it a try. Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller software updates
This is probably the reason: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44704 -- erland Erland Isaksson 'My homepage' (http://erland.homeip.net) 'My download page' (http://erland.homeip.net/download) (Developer of 'TrackStat, SQLPlayList, DynamicPlayList, Custom Browse, Custom Scan, Custom Skip, Multi Library and Database Query plugins' (http://wiki.erland.homeip.net/index.php/Category:SlimServer)) erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller software updates
JHC;279477 Wrote: The next questions is how do we know what changed? Is there a log of updates somewhere? Apologies if the answer is obvious... Jonathan I haven't found a log for changes yet. Anyone else? The changes I've noticed after updates were... -the remote's buttons light up (that didn't work out of the box!?) -when you're in 'Now Playing' and scroll to a new song and press play, it skips to the song rather than clearing the songs and having that song be the only one in the playlist -when you view a track a tiny thumbnail of the cover art appears to the left of the track title Anyone notice other changes? -- ptrainer ptrainer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller artwork quality - no dithering done?
Any headway on this issue? Almost all of my album artwork that has any significant area of white or extremely light areas blending into darker show these unattractive artifacts. I do hope it can be corrected. -- ptrainer ptrainer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=2 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive sounds
On 13-Mar-08, at 11:54 PM, ptrainer wrote: aubuti;279462 Wrote: Settings Advanced Sound effects I've unchecked all of the boxes but the remote still has a sound effect when it powers on and off. Does anyone know of a way to shut that off? settings-advanced-remote login. check the box, make note of ip and really simple password ssh to the controller: ssh jivehost -l root (enter password when asked) rm /usr/share/jive/applets/DefaultSkin/sounds/shutdown.wav rm /usr/share/jive/jive/splash.wav then exit. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 stops randomly
I had almost all issues described in this thread. On a bad day i could not get 100% on the 64kbps network test even if no other wireless computer was on. I replaced my Netgear DG834G with a Linksys WAG325N, placed it on the exact same spot and now I get 100% on the 5000kbps test all day long even with 4 wireless computers connected, surfing, streaming and whatever. Of course this won't help if the SB are wired. Tips for wireless SB. 1. The server should be wired and have a fixed ip outside the dhcp scoop. 2. Set a fixed ip on the SB. Make shure it's outside the dhcp scoop. All kind of strange things could happen if you have a ip conflict. 3. Upgrade your switch\router. 4. Move around the AP to find the best spot. 5. Wire the SB just to se if it still problems. Tips for wired SB. 1. See above. 2. See above. 3. Install Softsqueeze on a wired PC and test if that works. 4. Uninstall antivirus and disable FW (just for the moment) on the server. 5. Try another cable. 6. Change port om the switch. 7. Upgrade your switch\router. 8. Install SC on another PC. The nic could be broken. Or, just put your favorite cd in the slot and sit down and have a few bears. -- bernt http://www.last.fm/user/ottovonkopp/ bernt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1342 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43298 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller
mvalera wrote: The Duet obviosuly has no display, but it also has no headphone jack, and we went with a different DAC. The Wolfson DAC, while still high quality, delivers slightly lower performance than the Squeezebox Classic. Hmm, I remember reading Sean or Dean saying that there was no quality difference. I suppose that from a marketing viewpoint it may be much more attractive to make it seem that an SBC/SB3 combination offers a higher quality sound than the much cheaper Duet... ;) Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
haunyack;279393 Wrote: No need to wait a full night. You may want to give it a generous interval, then if you still cannot load the browser check with support. . After a full night there's still no page loading. So there must be a different problem. I have sent a question to support. But I don't think I can wait a full day before reverting back to 6.5.4 and forgetting about SC 7.0. (Access to my Squeezebox is essential for my everyday life ;-) ) -- SlimPvC SlimPvC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wanted: used slimp3
ptrainer wrote: I purchased my Slimp3 (which I still use) 6 years ago. I bought it to replace my Turtle Beach Audiotron (remember those?) which was a royal pain to use (but very, very cool back in late 2000!) I was lucky and sold that unit on eBay for the same amount I bought it for. The arrival of Slimp3 was my excuse to get rid of the Audiotron since after going the route of using a home Digital Music Server I just couldn't handle going back to playing CDs exclusively :-) By the way, I still think the Slimp3 is the coolest looking compared to all generations of the Squeezebox. Anyone else agree? The one without the back cover? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MAC adress Controller SB Duet
Thank you very much! -- mvdvoet mvdvoet's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16037 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44688 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
SlimPvC;279502 Wrote: (Access to my Squeezebox is essential for my everyday life ;-) ) I would defer to you on that point. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
On 14-Mar-08, at 12:55 AM, SlimPvC wrote: haunyack;279393 Wrote: No need to wait a full night. You may want to give it a generous interval, then if you still cannot load the browser check with support. . After a full night there's still no page loading. So there must be a different problem. I have sent a question to support. But I don't think I can wait a full day before reverting back to 6.5.4 and forgetting about SC 7.0. (Access to my Squeezebox is essential for my everyday life ;-) ) Before you give up, I'd recommend giving it one last go from the command line. I can't recall if the windows exe changed, bug I'm sure you can sort it out. It will be in Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server try: slimserver.exe --debug server=DEBUG,database.sql=DEBUG,network.http=DEBUG it might be squeezecenter.exe or slim.exe (I can't keep track of all of the file shuffling any more) -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Unable to create SqueezeNetwork Account
Come on! Two SB3s and over two years since they were out - now totally stuck with this SqeezeCenter thing! It requires a SqueezeNetwork Account to continue the initial configuration -- I thought I had one but the web interface said not. So I started anew, clicked next to see it turned into Please wait... for hours. Canceled the process and started from blank again, the same results. Please fix this ASAP. This is going to be my first night in two years without music! -- leping leping's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6477 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44724 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
kdf;279509 Wrote: it might be squeezecenter.exe -kdf That's the bugger! . -- haunyack Transporter - BK 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
On 14-Mar-08, at 1:44 AM, haunyack wrote: kdf;279509 Wrote: it might be squeezecenter.exe -kdf That's the bugger! That's just a rumour. I never touched the guy!! -k ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] RSS feed
Hi, I'm trying to reduce my email quantity so moving any lists I can to an RSS agregator, is there an RSS feed for the list? regards, robin ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Non-US Duet Delivery?
I just ordered my duet from ripcaster, cheaper than any swedish retailer and they delivery is apparently free ? to sweden to. 0 gbp in for that at checkout. the SBR will be my kitchen radio while I'm happy with one SBC for both my players (I have SB3 for the main ht/stereo). i could not wait for the prices to adjust he he. If this product is a success (hitting the mass market) we will probably see some kind market economy even in northern Europe. Cheers Mikael locking forward to play with my new toys -- Mnyb Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44635 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Unable to create SqueezeNetwork Account
On 14-Mar-08, at 1:55 AM, leping wrote: Come on! Two SB3s and over two years since they were out - now totally stuck with this SqeezeCenter thing! It requires a SqueezeNetwork Account to continue the initial configuration requires, no. You should be able to skip it, but you do lose access to a number of the new (and revamped existing) services. You should still be able to move on and listen to local tracks. SqueezeNetwork emails can sometimes end up in spam/junk folders. Check those for the activation notices. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Unable to create SqueezeNetwork Account
Have you tried logging in to SqueezeNetwork from a web broweser to see if you are using the correct account details? Apparently you don't have to fill in the details anyway, you can leave them blank and just click 'next'. -- Khuli http://www.last.fm/user/khuli Khuli's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=851 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44724 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Buzz Report
Saw that. Not exactly the most detailed review ;) but at least Molly did like it (although she took issue with the name Squeezebox). -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44430 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] RSS feed
http://forums.slimdevices.com/external.php?type=RSS ? -- iSix iSix's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6160 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44722 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any Way to Save Album View Preferences?
Fleury wrote: Basic display prefs could just be an additional page on the settings/advanced tab, one more entry in the drop down box of options. Or just add a box or two on the existing Music Library tab. Cookies may be a way of life on the web, but so is identity theft and cyberstalking - doesn't make them acceptable because they are universal. Also they are not always benign, I have had some serious problems with cookies installed by those whose motives are not as pure as the SC elves. So after a couple of near disastrous pc attacks, my boxes are set to trash every cookie, cache entry or other unasked for entries on my hard drive whenever I close the browser. But setting my What's a 'pc' attack and how would cookies be involved? options to trust SC should be an easy workaround. Setting frefox to allow cookies from http://127.0.0.1:9000/ however, did not seem to do the trick. Strange. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean somebody isn't following you. (Alfred E. Neuman) About the only 'nasty' thing I know cookies can be used for is to collect information on your web browsing behaviour. Companies like doubleclick could track your movement accross all sites that carry their ads. http://www.doubleclick.com/privacy/faq.aspx SC doesn't carry doubleclick or any other ads, so there's no risk. Other sites cannot access the SC cookies (bar any browser bugs) and if they could they probably wouldn't value your album art settings much. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Any Way to Save Album View Preferences?
On 14-Mar-08, at 2:04 AM, Peter wrote: hat's a 'pc' attack and how would cookies be involved? options to trust SC should be an easy workaround. Setting frefox to allow cookies from http://127.0.0.1:9000/ however, did not seem to do the trick. Strange. localhost, hostname, localip might be a good addition too. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Error: Couldn't install MySQL as a service!
Michael Herger;279486 Wrote: Something I don't understand... You don't need to. Of course. Doesn't the Windows installer install the MySQL service? No it doesn't. Wouldn't it logically be most likely that the user most privileged to install a service would be the user installing SC server in the first place? If you really need to install a service then this is the time to do it. Or is the MySQL service really installed by SC when it's run? It is. I don't have the answer for your next question why?, though. Why not once-and-for-all throw out the odd idea that installing MySQL as a service has _any_ benefit to either the user or to SqueezeCenter? If it's a dependant process to SqueezeCenter then have SqueezeCenter launch it at startup. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SS Path for multiple external usb HDD
Michael Herger;279489 Wrote: SC 7.0.1 now has support for aliases. Please give it a try. Michael That's good to know, as it does make things a lot easier for Mac users. But just at the moment, as I have been spending a fair bit of time discussing the Execute Script plugin - which is now brilliant, doing the extra things it could not previously do - I don't feel like laying around with SqueezeCenter when I do not actually need to. -- danco danco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=210 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44525 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Gapless When Synced ?
What I don't understand is why it actually manages to screw up the synching as well as the gaplessness. At least, this has been my recent experience with Mike Oldfield albums... -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44472 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller
You remembered incorrectly. There is a difference in the analog sound quality as it uses a different DAC. It is a very slight difference tho, and to my non-golden ears they sound equally good. The digital output however, -is- the exact same as the Squeezebox as it is the same circuit. -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44707 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Error: Couldn't install MySQL as a service!
It is. I don't have the answer for your next question why?, though. Why Didn't I tell you? :-) -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
ajmitchell;277304 Wrote: Further to this idea of scrolling as the main advantage. Can you scroll without album art, thus seeing many more lines at a time? In fact how many lines of songs can you see on the controller's screen? (I dont see any screen shots of this). Also is th menu structure exasctly the same as that in the 7.0 squeezebox SC displays eg music library playlists etc. I've been on the beta programme for quite a while, so some experiences: I was never keen on album art - 75% of my music is classical, and who wants to see some old fogey? However, I have now got really into it - it does add a lot of 'tangibleness' to browsing. At the moment you can't turn art off. If you browse by album, you just get 4 lines, with art. However, browsing by artist you get 9 (no art), then 4 albums with art once you choose the artist. The Controller is better than iPeng on the iTouch. In earlier times iPeng was better, but recent developments on scrolling and battery life have been firmly in the Controller's favour! The menu options are Music Library then artists, albums, genres, years, new music, random mix, music folder, playlists and search. Just what you get on the web interface. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Error: Couldn't install MySQL as a service!
In the meantime I discovered a work around that seems to work. 1) Open Windows Services application 2) Select the SqueezeCenter service and set its Start Type to Automatic - Delayed; and set its Logon As a defined user account on your PC that you have granted access to your Music (and iTunes) folders 3) Select the SqueezeMySql service and set its Start Type to Automatic; leave its Logon As set to Local System 4) Close Services and Reboot the machine -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Synching problems
I attach my .log file. It details just the playing of two FLAC tracks on a SB2/SB3/Softsqueeze synch combination. The tracks were supposed to play gaplessly but I know that synch currently doesn't handle that. Nonetheless, they not only were not playing gaplessly, they were clearly out of synch since the beginning and they did not go back to synch once they transitioned from on to the other (I was expecting at least that)... +---+ |Filename: server.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4590| +---+ -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44727 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching problems
I add a different log. This time only the two SBs were synched, while playing two 192kbps MP3s. I stopped the logging well into the second track, so as to include fully the transition. This time performance was better, but still inferior to what I heard while using some of the beta nightlies. +---+ |Filename: server2.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4591| +---+ -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44727 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Gapless When Synced ?
gorman;279540 Wrote: What I don't understand is why it actually manages to screw up the synching as well as the gaplessness. At least, this has been my recent experience with Mike Oldfield albums...Gaplessness. That's a state I aspire to. -- smc2911 smc2911's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4388 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44472 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet and Remote - to buy or not to buy?
ajmitchell;279403 Wrote: anyone with a Duet remote help my query? above Check out my other hobby http://ajmitchell.shutterpoint.com Since the query's been addressed, I'll just add that being a photographer, the graphical remote should be right up your alley. If you upload some of your photos to Flickr, the remote can scroll through them as a screensaver while not in use. -- Skunk http://www.last.fm/user/TheSkunk/ Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42338 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Why is SlimServer so slow?
DanielTheGreat;279099 Wrote: funkstar, thanks for the explanations about the SC/SB conversations. Is there a central repository for such pearls of wisdom, or does one just acquire them through osmosis? Osmosis generally. I've been a follow of SlimDevices since before the first hardware was released back in 2001. I used to subscribe to the mailing list but moved across to the forums back in November 2005. I guess there is a lot of information a few of us just know, without realising where it comes from :) DanielTheGreat;279099 Wrote: [lots of stuff about a poorly Windows box] I'll second Robin on this one. Nuke windows and re-install, I'd put a small wager on it being a lot slicker after that :) -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44457 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
Hi, first of all I want to say I just love your product! :) To my problem: I want to listen to my music from outside my LAN, and since my bandwith is somewath limited, i need to lower the bitrate on the stream. So far no success on that. Ive tries to set to the lowest bitrate (64kbps) on the player, but the stream is unchanged and my player reports 320 kbps if it is a 320 CBR mp3 file or whatever the source file bitrate is... Ive used Softsqueeze and other players, Ive tried to open: http://SERVERIP:9000/stream.mp3?bitrate=64 No effect at all, the stream is still at normal rate.. Any ideas? -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
You need to go into the setting menu for that player you're using (in this case, SoftSqueeze). Go to the audio section and select Bitrate Limiting, then select the highest bitrate that doesn't overwhelm your connection. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
Thats what i have done... Ive tries to set to the lowest bitrate (64kbps) on the player, but the stream is unchanged and my player reports 320 kbps if it is a 320 CBR mp3 file or whatever the source file bitrate is... -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Error: Couldn't install MySQL as a service!
You could also set your SqueezeCenter service to depend on the MySql service (so, whenever the SqueezeCenter service was started, the SCM would start SqueezeMySQL first, -then- SqueezeMySQL. In windows versions prior to Vista (and almost certainly in Vista) you do this in the registry, not the services control manager. Open your registry editor - go to key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\squeezesvc Look for a sub-key called -DependOnService-. If it doesn't exist - create it as a -MULTI_SZ- - the data is -SqueezeMySQL- If it does exist (maybe you already did this for MusicIP?) - edit it - add an additional line to the data - -SqueezeMySQL- I'm actually a bit surprised that the SqueezeCenter install process doesn't just -do- this - I guess it's a matter of being able to support already-installed generic MySQL installations. -- bobkoure bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
For stream that are transcoded - the display will the original format of the stream and not the transcoded (e.g. an RTSP stream will be shown as RTSP and not as FLAC which is actually sent to SB). I suspect it might the same for files. The only way to be sure is to check the network statistics. An alternative would be to look at the logs with player.source set to DEBUG - you should see the command options on Lame being used to encode the file. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
Well i know the bitrate is not reduced, i am pretty able to hear the difference between 320kbps mp3 and 64kbps for example, and the audio i hear (when i use 3.party player and set buffer size very big) is high quality, i.e. the stream is not downsampled. in adition the buffer runs out just as fast when i choose no limit as to when i choose 64, also my connection isnt _that_ bad... could you maybe give me more details on the player.source=debug thingy? i looked around a bit, but couldnt find out where i set that, maybe ill have to read some manuals :) It is pretty obvious to me that choosing a bitrate limit has absolutely no effect on the stream on my system. -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
I found the player.source flag... ill let you know the results... -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
Here is the log output (edited away some details) If im not mistaken, lame isnt used at all... that would indicate to me that the system thinks it should stream unlimited (i.e. the config has no effect). But correct me if im wrong I must have done someting wrong down the line This is an mp3 file: file:///Y:/music/mp3/Ane%20Brun%20-%20Duets/08%20Such%20A%20Common%20Bird.mp3 file type: mp3 format: mp3 inrate: 320 maxRate: 0 command: - Opening file Y:\music\mp3\Ane Brun - Duets\08 Such A Common Bird.mp3 Seeking in 2205 into Y:\music\mp3\Ane Brun - Duets\08 Such A Common Bird.mp3 MP3 wasn't encoded with LAME, won't play back gapless -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Gapless When Synced ?
radish;277473 Wrote: The technical issue used to be that the track breaks were used to resync players which had drifted during playback, hence they all had to stop and resync. However the new model resyncs during playback, so I'm not sure why the gap is still there to be honest. The problem is that the assumption of track breaks when synced is embedded in a 100 different places (I exaggerate only a little) throughout the code. I hope to add gapless sync as part of a rearchitecture of the complete play-control part of the server but this is a major piece of work and some way off. -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44472 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
MrSinatra wrote: they aren't mutually exclusive. They are, when you consider that SD has a very serialized product dev cycle. I would much rather have them spend their time designing something I'd like to buy, because they've got a great track record with that. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
deleted message -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Multiple albums with same name not displaying correctly
Hi All I am having a problem with squeeze center 7.0 I have multiple albums in my collection that have the name but are unrelated to each other. example I have 3 albums with the title Nine Lives one by Reo Speedwagon, one by Bonnie Rait, and one by Aerosmith they are displayed very strange in my library. under albums they show up as nine lives artist reo speedwagon,aerosith and the bonnie rait shows up only under artist and not albums. I have two albums titled XXX one by Chicago one by ZZ top these show up under albums as XXX chicago,ZZ Top and under artist Chicago shows album XXX but under artist ZZ top does not show any Albums titled XXX. Is there a bug with squeeze center not being able to sort out multiple albums with the same title? any help would be welcome thanks -- Bay City Bay City's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44733 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
Seems my selectino is registered, but lame is not executed for some reason... my gui tells me lame seems to be installed correctly. Hmm some quite basic that is wrong here This is an mp3 file: file:///Y:/music/mp3/Ane%20Brun%20-%20Duets/01%20Little%20Lights.mp3 file type: mp3 format: mp3 inrate: 320 maxRate: 64 command: - Opening file Y:\music\mp3\Ane Brun - Duets\01 Little Lights.mp3 Seeking in 2197 into Y:\music\mp3\Ane Brun - Duets\01 Little Lights.mp3 MP3 wasn't encoded with LAME, won't play back gapless Streaming with format: mp3 -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
Dont mean to be difficult, but it is NOT 64bps and i do hear the music. Ill start the server from the command line then... -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
If you hear the music, then the above command is being executed and will play at 64kps. Unless run from a command prompt you will not see Lame diagnostic output. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive sounds
kdf wrote: rm /usr/share/jive/applets/DefaultSkin/sounds/shutdown.wav rm /usr/share/jive/jive/splash.wav Uh, just to be safe, shouldn't that be: mv /usr/share/jive/applets/DefaultSkin/sounds/shutdown.wav /usr/share/jive/applets/DefaultSkin/sounds/shutdown.wav.disabled mv /usr/share/jive/jive/splash.wav /usr/share/jive/jive/splash.wav.disabled ? - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
Marc Sherman;279599 Wrote: SD has a very serialized product dev cycle. That actually brings up an interesting point. When Slim Devices was Slim Devices, that may have been the case as a smallish company trying to break out and efficiently focus. However as a part of Logitech now, is that still true? Which begs the question and the point for this post: Didn't Slim Devices BENEFIT from melding with Logitech? Didn't it get a bigger budget, bigger RD, more engineers? I don't know the answers but I certainly hope so as a consumer. And from Logitech's point of view, I also hope so. I mean, I hope that Logitech doesn't just look at Slim Devices the way England looked at the original American colonies pre-Revolutionary war, just to be milked. I assume that Logitech saw the vision for a stronger Slim Devices by helping it expand beyond its relatively humble beginnings. Isn't that so? As an analogy, if you are familiar with the pro audio world, a smallish company known as M-Audio (originally known as MidiMan) grew quickly, caught the eye of Digidesign, which bought it. Now M-Audio is bigger and better than ever, releasing ever more products every year. (And Digidesign had previously been purchased by Avid, that accelerated its own growth). -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
Show the log in its entirety with the time stamps - all I can do is offer an opinion on what you have shown such as This is an mp3 file: file:///Y:/music/mp3/Ane%20Brun%20-%20Duets/01%20Little%20Lights.mp3 file type: mp3 format: mp3 inrate: 320 maxRate: 64 That says input file is 320kbps and output should be 64kbps -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
Yes i understand that, I deleted the log file first so it is not an old entry. Let me explain what i also tried: i opened the stream from winamp/mediamonkey and other apps. I set the buffer to 1MB which by the way should be sufficiant to buffer the entire song if it was 64kbps... but yet the buffer gets empty several times during a 3-4 minutes song. So there is definitly something wrong and the stream is not 64kbps. Also it is quite easy to hear if it is downsampled to 64... Im not sure where to look, i have tried reinstall the software, but no luck. -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller
mvalera;279537 Wrote: You remembered incorrectly. I have to admit, my recollection was the same. http://forums.slimdevices.com/newreply.php?do=newreplyp=276490 seanadams;276490 Wrote: SB Receiver has exactly the same digital audio circuitry as SB3. The output is bit-perfect and extremely low jitter. I am certain that the signal is at least as good as what you'd get from a CD player. I'd suggest checking if your receiver may have that input configured for some DSP processing, eg surround or EQ options. Also check that replaygain is disabled as this could reduce the signal level. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=266415#post266415 seanadams;266415 Wrote: That's correct. Furthermore, it is the exact same circuit. I am not sure that it is as simple as our recollection being incorrect. There is clearly a subtlety here that is missed by some, including myself. -- ds2021 ds2021's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10078 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44707 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching problems
The logs both seem to show almost perfect performance with regard to sync maintenance. In what way do you find the performance poor? I do notice that the epoch adjustments for 00:04:20:05:a3:8a seem to be more-regular/larger than I would expect for a wired SB2/3, suggesting that the packet latency is somewhat irregular whcih it should not be for the setup you describe. -- awy awy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7480 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44727 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Receiver Sold Seperately
The Duet works so well I too am considering buying a couple. -- Bizarroterl Bizarroterl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13250 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
There is a known issue where the text is reporting the presence of lame, when it isn't there (playback falls back to the normal output if it can't transcode to lower bitrate). Due to licensing issues, lame is not installed by default, so unless you've installed it yourself, it's not likely to be there. You can check manually, or try to enable flac-mp3 transcoding in the server settings-file types. If lame is not found, that will fail. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Gapless When Synced ?
Does crossfade work when synced? As far as the annoyance factor goes, I think a very short crossfade is much preferable to even the tiniest gap... -- spedinfargo spedinfargo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15712 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44472 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
Starting the server from the command line didn give me anymore information, so any ideas? -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
kdf wrote: There is a known issue where the text is reporting the presence of lame, when it isn't there (playback falls back to the normal output if it can't transcode to lower bitrate). Due to licensing issues, lame is not installed by default, so unless you've installed it yourself, it's not likely to be there. Sounds like a call for a SqueezeCenter Liberation Front. There is no way that SD/Logi can touch this, but individuals may be able to help -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive sounds
bklaas wrote: interestingly, that's not really necessary (well, interesting to me, I'm weird that way). Jive/SBC uses an overlay filesystem, which means that you can't really do harm to the underlying base code. If you ever screw things up in what seems like an irreparable way, just power it on while holding the + key during the boot process. This will wipe the overlay filesystem and start fresh--in other words, the same as Settings-Advanced-Factory Reset. Obviously, you'll lose all your custom settings at this point, but nothing is bricked. Cool! Very cool, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info! I'd still recommend the mv, because a it's just a good general practise to get into for this kind of thing, and b it means you can easily restore those effects without losing all of your other customization work. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Receiver Sold Seperately
mortslim;279623 Wrote: And the related question: When will the receivers be able to be configured from the internet rather than from the controller? That's a future item, so umm... later ;-) -- Bizarroterl Bizarroterl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13250 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Receiver Sold Seperately
When will the receivers be able to be configured from the internet rather than from the controller? Officially you'll need a Controller to configure the Receiver. But the community is working on a solution: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43722 -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
mortslim;279606 Wrote: Which begs the question and the point for this post: Didn't Slim Devices BENEFIT from melding with Logitech? Didn't it get a bigger budget, bigger RD, more engineers? Oh, I am sure that is true: look at the Duet beta: they gave out a ton of SBC's to get testing done. The Old SlimDevices probably didn't have that kind of money; Logitech no doubt opened their wallets some and said, If it will make a better product, go for it. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive sounds
Marc Sherman;279602 Wrote: kdf wrote: rm /usr/share/jive/applets/DefaultSkin/sounds/shutdown.wav rm /usr/share/jive/jive/splash.wav Uh, just to be safe, shouldn't that be: mv /usr/share/jive/applets/DefaultSkin/sounds/shutdown.wav /usr/share/jive/applets/DefaultSkin/sounds/shutdown.wav.disabled mv /usr/share/jive/jive/splash.wav /usr/share/jive/jive/splash.wav.disabled ? - Marc interestingly, that's not really necessary (well, interesting to me, I'm weird that way). Jive/SBC uses an overlay filesystem, which means that you can't really do harm to the underlying base code. If you ever screw things up in what seems like an irreparable way, just power it on while holding the + key during the boot process. This will wipe the overlay filesystem and start fresh--in other words, the same as Settings-Advanced-Factory Reset. Obviously, you'll lose all your custom settings at this point, but nothing is bricked. Cool! #!/ben -- bklaas the Nokia770 skin guy http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/ bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44717 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Receiver Sold Seperately
And the related question: When will the receivers be able to be configured from the internet rather than from the controller? -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44670 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
On 14-Mar-08, at 8:32 AM, Pat Farrell wrote: There is no way that SD/Logi can touch this, but individuals may be able to help it's already fixed in trunk builds (7.0.1), btw. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Duet Controller Headphone Socket
Hi, Are you able to plug headphones into the new duet controller? Cheers Brian -- mugfordb mugfordb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5963 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller Headphone Socket
Hi, In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], mugfordb[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you able to plug headphones into the new duet controller? Yes, of course. (They won't do much yet though!) A future enhancement I understand. Andy ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller
ds2021;279614 Wrote: I am not sure that it is as simple as our recollection being incorrect. There is clearly a subtlety here that is missed by some, including myself. ?? Sean is saying the same thing there. The digital output circuit is identical. Those quotes don't relate to the DAC or the analogue outputs. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44707 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Duet Controller Headphone Socket
Yes, but you won't hear much just yet. Look around the forums, this has been discussed a lot. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44739 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
kdf;279509 Wrote: try: slimserver.exe --debug server=DEBUG,database.sql=DEBUG,network.http=DEBUG -kdf Thanks, for this suggestion. I tried your usggestion . Of the messages displayed, this may give a clue to some of you: [08-03-14 17:29:56.6789] Slim::Web::HTTP::acceptHTTP (265) Did not accept HTTP connection from 192.168.0.100, unauthorized source 192.168.0.100 is the correct local IP of the PC running the server, but squeezecenter does not accept it. Does this mean that there is a problem with the safety settings being too strict? (The block settings)? I used to block all except 192.168.0.* in the 6.5.4. version (but then again: I completely de-installed the 6.5.4 before installing 7.0) If so, can I change those from the command line? It's NOT the firewall: I disabled ZoneAlarm but that did not help. Thanks again for all support -- SlimPvC SlimPvC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
Marc Sherman;279599 Wrote: MrSinatra wrote: they aren't mutually exclusive. They are, when you consider that SD has a very serialized product dev cycle. I would much rather have them spend their time designing something I'd like to buy, because they've got a great track record with that. - Marc well obviously i disagree. u can keep the server / client model, you just put them in the same small as u can get quiet as you can get, cheap as you can get box. so you don't want to buy it, so what? obviously others would. but i don't feel like debating this at the moment and this isn't the thread for it. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controller software updates
A list of changes in a sticky thread here or on the website someplace else would be nice. Jeff -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44718 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Error: Couldn't install MySQL as a service!
bobkoure;279589 Wrote: In windows versions prior to Vista (and almost certainly in Vista) you do this in the registry, not the services control manager. Thanks for the tip. I can confirm that in Vista it works via the registry in the same way as you suggest. (But don't you think it is odd that you cannot do this via the services control manager?) -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44656 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
JHC;279025 Wrote: my only experiencing with streaming audio was with a Netgear MP101 going to a J. River Media Center backend. I have a library of just over 45,000 songs. The MP101 experience was frustrating.. a lot of times it worked but rarely survived an entire evening without having to reboot either the MP101 itself or Media Center... not exactly a real plug and play solution. I've got to add a me too here. For me, it was an MP101, Twonky server and iTunes backend. The difference when I got my first SB3 was like night and day. I will always remember the huge grin on my face when I played Dark Side Of The Moon through it for the first time; glorious lossless quality, perfectly gapless and really, really loud ;-) An absolutely superb piece of kit that has 100% changed how I listen to my music!! Good work! -- moley6knipe 2 x SqueezeBox 3 | 1 x SqueezeCenter 7 | 1 x Win XP Pro SP2 | 1 x Happy listener :-) moley6knipe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10014 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
SlimPvC;279650 Wrote: Thanks, for this suggestion. I tried your usggestion . Of the messages displayed, this may give a clue to some of you: [08-03-14 17:29:56.6789] Slim::Web::HTTP::acceptHTTP (265) Did not accept HTTP connection from 192.168.0.100, unauthorized source 192.168.0.100 is the correct local IP of the PC running the server, but squeezecenter does not accept it. Does this mean that there is a problem with the safety settings being too strict? (The block settings)? I used to block all except 192.168.0.* in the 6.5.4. version (but then again: I completely de-installed the 6.5.4 before installing 7.0) If so, can I change those from the command line? It's NOT the firewall: I disabled ZoneAlarm but that did not help. Thanks again for all support From the main SC window, try Settings-advanced- drop down menu::security and check blocking parameter. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
Isn't this guy's problem that he cannot access the web interface at all? On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:36 PM, slimkid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: SlimPvC;279650 Wrote: Thanks, for this suggestion. I tried your usggestion . Of the messages displayed, this may give a clue to some of you: [08-03-14 17:29:56.6789] Slim::Web::HTTP::acceptHTTP (265) Did not accept HTTP connection from 192.168.0.100, unauthorized source 192.168.0.100 is the correct local IP of the PC running the server, but squeezecenter does not accept it. Does this mean that there is a problem with the safety settings being too strict? (The block settings)? I used to block all except 192.168.0.* in the 6.5.4. version (but then again: I completely de-installed the 6.5.4 before installing 7.0) If so, can I change those from the command line? It's NOT the firewall: I disabled ZoneAlarm but that did not help. Thanks again for all support From the main SC window, try Settings-advanced- drop down menu::security and check blocking parameter. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] jive album sorting
sorry if this has been asked / addressed b4... but the jive lists all your albums in alphabetical order. thats useless to me, and i would guess most people. can albums be listed in artist, year, album order? (yes, with the little artwork icon) if so, how do you tell jive to do it? -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Thanks Slim Devices / Logitech!
MrSinatra;279654 Wrote: u can keep the server / client model, you just put them in the same small as u can get quiet as you can get, cheap as you can get box. http://www.olive.us/home.html -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44669 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive album sorting
MrSinatra;279662 Wrote: can albums be listed in artist, year, album order? (yes, with the little artwork icon) if so, how do you tell jive to do it? Just set the ALBUMSORT tags suitably and they'll be sorted in whatever order you want. I personally like my albums listed in artist order, then in chronological release date order, so my ALBUMSORT tags have the format artistsortreleasedateletter (where letter is used to order albums that were released in the same year). For example, The Kick Inside has ALBUMSORT tag Bush, Kate 1978A, and Lionheart has ALBUMSORT tag Bush, Kate 1978B. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Two-pane display to one-pane, and back
I just installed Squeezecenter 7, and have a small problem. The default display shows two pane. On the left is home, with Music Library, Internet Radio, etc., listed. On the right is the playback window. When I click information browser the right pane expands to fill the entire active area, and I can't find a button that will restore the two-pane mode. Refreshing the browser reloads the two-pane display. Any ideas? Thanks. -- david515 david515's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2542 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44745 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
Yap, you're right. What confused me is that his error message poins that he's trying to connect from somewhere other than 127.0.0.1 (192.168.0.100). If he is coming from the same box where the SC is running, then there might be that his PC gets a static address from the router and passes that to SC. Anyhow, good idea would be to reinstall 6.5.4, remove any kind of blocking there and then go to SC7. Then, if it works, do what I suggested and set it up again. Mitch Harding;279665 Wrote: Isn't this guy's problem that he cannot access the web interface at all? On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:36 PM, slimkid slimkid.369wsn1205516401 (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com wrote: SlimPvC;279650 Wrote: Thanks, for this suggestion. I tried your usggestion . Of the messages displayed, this may give a clue to some of you: [08-03-14 17:29:56.6789] Slim::Web::HTTP::acceptHTTP (265) Did not accept HTTP connection from 192.168.0.100, unauthorized source 192.168.0.100 is the correct local IP of the PC running the server, but squeezecenter does not accept it. Does this mean that there is a problem with the safety settings being too strict? (The block settings)? I used to block all except 192.168.0.* in the 6.5.4. version (but then again: I completely de-installed the 6.5.4 before installing 7.0) If so, can I change those from the command line? It's NOT the firewall: I disabled ZoneAlarm but that did not help. Thanks again for all support From the main SC window, try Settings-advanced- drop down menu::security and check blocking parameter. K -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 -- slimkid The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Error: lines function not using display hash
Can anyone explain why I am getting the following in SC7 server.log file? It occurs very frequently i.e. every few minutes (the server.log file is expanding very fast..) [08-03-14 18:54:45.4487] Slim::Display::Display::parseLines (500) Error: lines function not using display hash, please update to display hash as this will be depreciated [08-03-14 18:54:45.4491] Slim::Display::Display::parseLines (500) Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Utils::Log::logBacktrace (/C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Display/Display.pm line 500) frame 1: Slim::Display::Display::parseLines (/C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Display/Display.pm line 466) frame 2: (eval) (/C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Display/Display.pm line 466) frame 3: Slim::Display::Display::curLines (/C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Display/Display.pm line 186) frame 4: Slim::Display::Display::update (/C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Player/Player.pm line 112) frame 5: Slim::Player::Player::update (/C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Networking/SqueezeNetwork/PrefSync.pm line 231) frame 6: Slim::Networking::SqueezeNetwork::PrefSync::_syncDown_done (/C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Networking/SimpleAsyncHTTP.pm line 317) frame 7: Slim::Networking::SimpleAsyncHTTP::onBody (/C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Networking/Async/HTTP.pm line 469) frame 8: Slim::Networking::Async::HTTP::_http_read_body (/C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Networking/Select.pm line 243) frame 9: (eval) (/C:\Program Files\SqueezeCenter\server\squeezecenter.exeSlim/Networking/Select.pm line 243) frame 10: Slim::Networking::Select::select (slimserver.pl line 503) frame 11: main::idle (slimserver.pl line 43) frame 12: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc line 851) frame 13: PerlSvc::_startup (slimserver.pl line 0) frame 14: (eval) (slimserver.pl line 0) Transporter, SC7, Vista -- AndrewFG Regards, AndrewFG AndrewFG's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44747 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive album sorting
i'm not sure i follow you... i do not have album sort tags in my mp3 tags. i have thousands of albums, adding non-standard tags to them manually does NOT appeal. if i can sort like this without said tags on SC7, i am at a loss as to why i can't also do so on the jive? basically, i am merely trying to replicate the browse artwork, artist, year, album methodology of SC7 on the jive. is this not possible without tag alterations??? -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] The bandwith limitation doesnt seem to work
That helped a bit : ) Thanks. Now i seem to be able to limit the bitrate - on my flac files at least... Now, mp3-files with high bitrate cant be transcoded? Dont seem to have any effect on those... In the gui i cant choose lame as the encoder for mp3 - mp3 transcoding only 'native' or disabled. And the bitrate to the external player stays the same if i try to play a mp3-file... -- rayslim rayslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16049 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44729 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive album sorting
i have thousands of albums, adding non-standard tags to them manually does NOT appeal. They aren't non-standard tags. if i can sort like this without said tags on SC7, i am at a loss as to why i can't also do so on the jive? It simply hasn't been implemented yet. The Jive interface is more like the player interface in terms of customizability at the moment -- not the web interface. My opinion anyway... Of course, some things you can do in the player interface (remove unused items, etc) can't be done in Jive yet either. Ben ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive album sorting
Maybe you should consider Jive as a WIP? It was developed quite quickly and there are still a few things outstanding. SlimServer/Squeezecenter took quite a few years to reach the state it has. Most of the navigational things I think are pretty crucial are due to be addressed in 7.0.1: * All Albums lisrings (from say, a Genre) * Remember where you were last at when you return (i.e. back track) * Reach the correct track in a Various Artists album when you've navigated from an artist that has one track in that album * Another one, which I've forgotten. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
I managed a self-imposed denial of service on SC7 by enabling security and forgetting to white list 127.0.0.1. Edited it into the .ini file :) -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive album sorting
MrSinatra;279685 Wrote: however, what i meant was that most people, and most rips via lame or whatever, don't include the tag by default. That's because it's optional and based on user preference. How you want albumsort is certainly different than how I want it, so there's no standard value, unlike something such as track title. i see albumsort like compilation or other various 'extra' tags... they may be standard via some standards body, but they aren't commonly enacted by default on rips. I'm pretty sure iTunes adds TCMP/COMPILATION to rips, so that one at least is standard for a lot of people. i'm not sure if one can enable them by default on a rip, maybe you can configure EAC to do so... but mine doesn't do it. You sure can, EAC lets you add whatever tags you like as the whole FLAC command line is configurable. What's more, you have the tokens you probably need (artist name, album name, year) right there too. What puzzles me is what you did before SC7? My understanding is that the only way to affect sort order on SS6 was via albumsort tags, so most people who care about such things already have them in their collections. Personally I'm happy with alphabetical. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive album sorting
excuse my non-exacting use of language, a sin i am often guilty of here. i actually can't say if the tag is standard or not, tag standards in general seem to be a mess and there is seemingly no ultimate authority on them. however, what i meant was that most people, and most rips via lame or whatever, don't include the tag by default. i see albumsort like compilation or other various 'extra' tags... they may be standard via some standards body, but they aren't commonly enacted by default on rips. i'm not sure if one can enable them by default on a rip, maybe you can configure EAC to do so... but mine doesn't do it. anyway, my point is i don't want to use tags that aren't automatic via the rip. and i surely don't want to add tags to thousands on albums. i don't want to go thru my whole collection adding tags that SC7 (more or less) doesn't need. if its just a matter of patience, np, i can wait for jive to do what SC7 does. but adding tags to make jive do what SC7 does? no thanks. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive album sorting
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6591 -- kdf kdf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] jive album sorting
kdf, how do you see the final implementation in practice? i think artists is fine as is (by default) which is a simple alphabetical list without artwork. but albums should be the way dean suggests by default, artist, year, album with little album artwork icons right? is that how you see it too? and i would think that various albums would also come up with the track by that artist in such a list. meaning, if i have 3 willie nelson ablums, and one various artist one he has one track on, i would see all four albums, but only his one track from the various album. yes? -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 (primary) / SBR (secondary) / Jive - w/SC 7.0.1beta - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - D-Link DIR-655 MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44743 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Completely stuck after 7.0 upgrade
Edit server.prefs (location varies per OS, Windows is in Docas Settings/All Users/Application Data/SqueezeCenter/prefs) remove the filterHosts, allowedHosts, authorize and username prefs. That will clear all blocking settings and you can restore what you need later. -kdf -- kdf kdf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
