Re: [slim] I wanted to ask...

2008-10-22 Thread whitman

So, no Mac users have made the move from Slim to Squeeze? Really? Oh
well. 

Ezsurfing: presumably you didn't want to make that new thread? I'm
happy to do it. If I see no reply to the contrary, I'll put one up in
the next few days.


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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread JJZolx

mherger;352031 Wrote: 
> > Would be nice to get a list of
> > available options/attributes.
> 
> Of?

Here are a couple of quick questions. How to:

- (same question as above) get player state
- get track duration
- get track title without track number
- get track number
- get album name without year
- get album year
- display a progress bar
- use different images for buttons and/or progress bar
- get the same information for individual tracks within current
playlist
- display playlist controls


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Re: [slim] Jazz Radio audio streams

2008-10-22 Thread whitman

Raven22: your new instructions still give me nothing useful on a Mac.
But no matter, because the URLs you and nordeney  supplied are useful.

davep;351751 Wrote: 
> I wouldn't get too excited about this if you were imagining that there
> was some kind of connection between theJazz and the "reborn" JazzFM. 
> This latter sounds just like the broadcast station JazzFM which we used
> to have in London and SE England - precious little of the output could
> even remotely be called "Jazz".  All I have heard so far dipping in and
> out of it for a day or so is stuff like Swingout Sister and Maria
> Muldaur, hardly the Miles, Mingus, Bird, etc that one might want from a
> Jazz station.  I recall that theJazz during its short lived existence
> offered decent doses of serious jazz rather than this dreary stuff
> which JazzFM is playing.davep

Davep, I wasn't suggesting there was any connection between theJazz and
JazzFM: two different entities, for sure. JazzFM in old and new modes
had/has vast tracts of dross, mainly during the day, but I always
enjoyed the evening 'Dinner Jazz' show (7-10pm), which actually had
some good jazz in it. The new version, with former presenter Sarah
Ward, sounds promising.


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[slim] Last.fm Loved Tracks problem

2008-10-22 Thread Phil Meyer
I tried subscribing to Last.fm for a few months to see what I was missing out 
on.

I now have the ability to play "My Radio Station" and "My Loved Tracks".

However, apparently I should have the ability to play "Loved Tracks" for any 
last.fm user.  I don't seem to get this option.
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Re: [slim] Anybody else a member of la la ?

2008-10-22 Thread Peter
Jazz1 wrote:
> I've just joined and I'm wondering if I can access my matched music
> collection via an SB3 or Boom? Maybe I'm just not getting this service?
> Is it like MusicLocker and Pandora rolled into one?
>   

Sounds like it. And they have this track so that you don't have to 
upload your collections if they already have the songs on their server.

Regards,
Peter

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Re: [slim] Better sound: Boom or SBR with Audioengine 2s?

2008-10-22 Thread Robin Bowes
StuartC wrote:

> So I'm interested in other opinions about the comparative sound of the
> Boom vs. SBR with powered speakers. Have I fooled myself with my
> unscientific listening test?

Who cares?!!

Use whatever you think sounds the best - anyone else's opinion is 
irrelevant.

R.

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Re: [slim] Last.fm Loved Tracks problem

2008-10-22 Thread jeebers

Philip Meyer;352059 Wrote: 
> I tried subscribing to Last.fm for a few months to see what I was
> missing out on.
> 
> I now have the ability to play "My Radio Station" and "My Loved
> Tracks".
> 
> However, apparently I should have the ability to play "Loved Tracks"
> for any last.fm user.  I don't seem to get this option.

I *think* you have to be friends with them.  Then you go to (from
memory) Last.fm Radio -> My Friends -> username -> username's Loved
Tracks


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Re: [slim] Any Video on the horizon?

2008-10-22 Thread funkstar

DoomWolf;351952 Wrote: 
> Personally, I think the Popcorn Hour would fit nicely into Logitech's
> Streaming Media division. A bit of Slim Devices/Logitech magic and that
> could become an awesome product (and they could give it a better name).
And a better case :)


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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread Michael Herger
> - (same question as above) get player state

SqueezeJS.Controller.playerStatus - it's an object (or hash) with the following 
items:

playerStatus = {
// if power is undefined, set it to on for http clients
power: (response.power == null) || response.power,
mode:  response.mode,
rate:  response.rate,
current_title: response.current_title,
title: response.playlist_tracks > 0 ? 
response.playlist_loop[0].title : '',
track: response.playlist_tracks > 0 ? response.playlist_loop[0].url 
: '',
index: response.playlist_cur_index,
duration:  parseInt(response.duration) || 0,
canSeek:   response.can_seek ? true : false,
playtime:  parseInt(response.time),
timestamp: response.playlist_timestamp
};

It doesn't deliver the full list of track information. This is queried every 5 
seconds, then passed to the UI elements.

> - get track duration

Doesn't exist (yet). The following would do:

SqueezeJS.UI.PlaytimeDuration = Ext.extend(SqueezeJS.UI.Playtime, {
onPlaytimeUpdate : function(playtime){
if (this.el && playtime)

this.el.update(SqueezeJS.Utils.formatTime(playtime.duration));
}
});

Will add it if it is what you were thinking of.

> - get track title without track number

This currently doesn't exist. Needs a change in the parser.


> - get track number

SqueezeJS.UI.TrackNo = Ext.extend(SqueezeJS.UI.Component, {
onPlayerStateChange : function(result){
this.el.update(result.playlist_loop[0].tracknum ? 
result.playlist_loop[0].tracknum + '. ' : '');
}
});


> - get album name without year

SqueezeJS.UI.AlbumTitle = Ext.extend(SqueezeJS.UI.Component, {
onPlayerStateChange : function(result){
this.el.update(SqueezeJS.SonginfoParser.album(result, 
this.noLink));
}
});

> - get album year

SqueezeJS.UI.AlbumYear = Ext.extend(SqueezeJS.UI.Component, {
onPlayerStateChange : function(result){
this.el.update(SqueezeJS.SonginfoParser.year(result, 
this.noLink));
}
});

> - display a progress bar

new SqueezeJS.UI.PlaytimeProgress('yourHTMLElement');

> - use different images for buttons and/or progress bar

That's beyond the scope of this mail... take a look at slimserver.css. Styles 
starting with x-... are overwriting ExtJS defaults. Eg. x-btn etc.

> - get the same information for individual tracks within current
> playlist

Don't have an answer for this right now. All the defined components listen to 
the status query, which is about the currently playing track only. You'd 
probably have to overwrite the base class SqueezeJS.UI.Component, which adds 
the listener. Not an easy change I guess.

> - display playlist controls

Like fwd/rwd? They're covered in the tutorial. What else?

I'll add the above components to 7.3. Until then you might want to add them to 
your template.

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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread Michael Herger
> SqueezeJS.UI.PlaytimeDuration = Ext.extend(SqueezeJS.UI.Playtime, {

I've renamed this to Duration only. Please use Duration if you want it to be 
working with 7.3 (rev. 23649)

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Re: [slim] How do I roll back the controller firmware..

2008-10-22 Thread Howard Passman

schiegl;352019 Wrote: 
> I've done the "VOL+ thing" numerous times (my risk if i use svn
> checkout's ;-) and it worked always (ADD+ clears settings).
> The way i do roll backs is by disabling auto-update in SC, removing any
> leftovers from cache folder and copying of the desired firmware version
> to the controller's sd-card (see 'wiki'
> (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/SqueezeOS_Upgrades#Firmware_Update_with_SD_Card))
> - assumes the SBC is still in shape to do an udate itself.
> 
> kind regards,
> Markus

I di get it rolled back by using my backups, but out of curiosity,
which cache folder are you indicating?

I saw the wiki about sd card updates, but it didn't tell you where to
find the firmware list.  There was one link, but it had expired.  I
searched wiki for the list, but I don't think I'm alone in not being
able to find anything with the search function in wiki.  Always a dead
end for me.  I always save those links when I do get them so for the
future I'd love to know where the SBC firmware is posted.

Thanks

Howard


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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread JJZolx

mherger;352071 Wrote: 
> > - use different images for buttons and/or progress bar
> 
> That's beyond the scope of this mail... take a look at slimserver.css.
> Styles starting with x-... are overwriting ExtJS defaults. Eg. x-btn
> etc.

Ok, I thought maybe you might have made the images properties of the
component rather than being addressed through CSS.

> > - get the same information for individual tracks within current
> > playlist
> 
> Don't have an answer for this right now. All the defined components
> listen to the status query, which is about the currently playing track
> only. You'd probably have to overwrite the base class
> SqueezeJS.UI.Component, which adds the listener. Not an easy change I
> guess.

Was just thinking of displaying the next track to be played, with cover
and the usual title, artist, album and possibly duration.

> - display playlist controls
> 
> Like fwd/rwd? They're covered in the tutorial. What else?

No, I mean Play and Delete from playlist.  Thought that if I could add
the 'Up Next' I might include a delete from playlist button to let you
skip the upcoming track by deleting it from the playlist.

> I'll add the above components to 7.3. Until then you might want to add
> them to your template.

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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread anjilinjones

The art project gives students an opportunity to express what they
learned about California history and the growth of Los Angeles through
art. We also hope that by displaying the student artwork in our museum
the students families will be motivated to visit the museum and the
students can receive recognition for the great work they put into the
program. It is our hope that we can encourage participating students to
continue their exploration of history outside of the classroom.
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Re: [slim] Jazz Radio audio streams

2008-10-22 Thread davep

whitman;352053 Wrote: 
> 
> Davep, I wasn't suggesting there was any connection between theJazz and
> JazzFM: two different entities, for sure. JazzFM in old and new modes
> had/has vast tracts of dross, mainly during the day, but I always
> enjoyed the evening 'Dinner Jazz' show (7-10pm), which actually had
> some good jazz in it. The new version, with former presenter Sarah
> Ward, sounds promising.

I haven't managed to hear the Dinner Jazz show yet so have only heard
bits of the daytime shows which are pretty hard to listen to for long. 
I will have a go at Dinner Jazz before condemning it out of hand :) 
Having Sarah Ward presenting it certainly sounds as if it might deliver
something.

davep


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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread Michael Herger
> Was just thinking of displaying the next track to be played, with cover
> and the usual title, artist, album and possibly duration.

Yeah, that would be cool. I was thinking about a cover flow style playlist 
preview... but that's rather for the spare time :-9

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Re: [slim] Duet Controller keeps rebooting and rebooting

2008-10-22 Thread henjrn

5 minutes, and the problem was back... Sent the problem to Support...


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Re: [slim] Wireless Access Point / Router Compatability - Duet update plse !

2008-10-22 Thread PeterDB

I have tried two D-Link DI-524UP, both have work fine on Ethernet, but
the wireless part of the router, works terrible. I get bad and
inconsistent range issues, drop, random disconnections, and various
other issues. Also not only with my SB Classics, Duets, and Boom, but
also with other wireless devices.


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[slim] Switch SB3 from SC to SN before turning on

2008-10-22 Thread sand

Hi all,
I would like to switch SB3 from SC to SN without turning it on, prevent
waking my NAS up.. is that possible?
I have tried holding down the left arrow for a while but nothing
happened.. is there an other way?
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Re: [slim] Is it possible to use the Alarm Clock with SqueezeCenter?

2008-10-22 Thread orenb

Thanks a lot! I'll try that.

Oren


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[slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread orenb

My current cards (on-board and SB-Live) typically can't pull it off. Is
there a card, preferably an inexpensive one, that can?

I'm using SqueezeCenter 7.2 and SoftSqueeze 3.7.

Thanks,
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Re: [slim] Switch SB3 from SC to SN before turning on

2008-10-22 Thread nacmacfeegle

Hi sand, 
maybe the server power control plugin might be of use
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48521

I use XP on my servers, and have this plugin to automagically switch
the Squeezeboxes to Squeezenetwork when I power off the server via the
SB remote.  It will also shut down and switch to SN after a definable
period of inactivity on the SBs.  You can specify the
shutdown/sleep/hibernate etc state of the server from the plugin
settings.  I'm not sure if it would work with your NAS and it may
depend on it's OS.

I have different fonts/savers on the boxes for SN and SC so I can tell
at a glance whether the server is off or not.

Alternatively you could disable wake on lan at your NAS.


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[slim] Squeezebox 3 - No sound.

2008-10-22 Thread Snowbell

Hi,

I've used my Squeezebox for a couple of years and not really had many
problems.  Now however I get no sound - even when the player display
shows it should be playing.  No sound through either the RCA or
headphone sockets.

I've search everywhere in the new browser interface and found nothing
is set that could cause no output.  Trying to find the problem I've
re-powered the player multiple times, and also upgraded SqueezeCenter
(now to 7.2.1 ) and player firmware (now to 113).  Still no sound.

Anyone any idea?

- Tim


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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread Espen

starfleetcommand;351669 Wrote: 
> I found a really cool mini-ITX system complete with DSL (Damn Small
> Linux) that I'm thinking of using.  It is fanless system that I'm going
> to attach a solid state drive to.  No noise.  Here's the link:
> 
> http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/store/Mini_ITX_Systems/533MHz_fanless_Mini_ITX_PC
> 

I stumbled across this one today.
http://www.fit-pc.com/new/


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Re: [slim] Jazz Radio audio streams

2008-10-22 Thread whitman

OK, davep, let's see (or rather hear) how it goes.

Apologies to JazzFM, by the way: I moaned earlier about them not
getting back to me with a URL: they just have, with the :8000 one. 

BUT, nordeney, I just gave the :8000 URL a try on my SB3, and I had a
no-go and an 'empty playlist' message. Was it straightforward on your
Transporter?


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Re: [slim] Problem with accented characters in playlists

2008-10-22 Thread JadeMonkee

Another problem with accented characters in playlists:
This morning I performed a full rescan of my library, and this evening
I noticed that any songs that have international characters in their
pathname and that appear in a playlist of mine (the modified
"favorites" playlist from my rockboxed mp3 player) now have duplicate
album entries under my browse artists -> albums menu.
For instance,
Björk's song -Bachelorette- appears in the above mentioned playlist.
If I go to Browse Artists: Björk, the album -Homogenic- appears twice;
once in full, and once with only the song -Bachelorette- listed.
Is this related to the bug?
I don't think it had happened before the re-scan.
I will perform another re-scan tonight, and report back with it's
status tomorrow.
I may just end up having to remove the playlists altogether.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox 3 - No sound.

2008-10-22 Thread Phil Leigh

Snowbell;352109 Wrote: 
> Hi,
> 
> I've used my Squeezebox for a couple of years and not really had many
> problems.  Now however I get no sound - even when the player display
> shows it should be playing.  No sound through either the RCA or
> headphone sockets.
> 
> I've search everywhere in the new browser interface and found nothing
> is set that could cause no output.  Trying to find the problem I've
> re-powered the player multiple times, and also upgraded SqueezeCenter
> (now to 7.2.1 ) and player firmware (now to 113).  Still no sound.
> 
> Anyone any idea?
> 
> - Tim

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Re: [slim] Wireless Access Point / Router Compatability - Duet update plse !

2008-10-22 Thread lrossouw

Belkin G Wireless router\dsl modem combo.  
Running with WAP
Not using MAC address authorisation.

Runs with no problems with 2 SB Classics, 2 wired PCs, 3 wireless
laptops, wifi mobile phone (Tytn II / Tilt).

Can access SqueezeCentre from any pc\laptop as well as from phone.
Using NAT so can access my SqueezeCentre from anywhere on the web.


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Re: [slim] Last.fm Loved Tracks problem

2008-10-22 Thread Philip Meyer

I don't get the option for a friend either.

eg. when I navigate to Home > Last.fm Radio > Friends > ModelCitizen, I
only see:

ModelCitizen's Radio Station 
ModelCitizen's Neighborhood 
Friends 
Neighbors 
Recent Tracks

i.e. Loved Tracks is not an option.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Access Point / Router Compatability - Duet update plse !

2008-10-22 Thread PeterDB

Forgot to add my current:

My ISP is Swisscom (I am based in Switzerland) and they provided my
with my modem/router for my VDSL connection.

The modem/router is a Netopia Netopia 7347-84 (fw. 7.8.0r5) and so far,
what is currently connected to it is:

Wired:
- BluewinTV Plus (digital HD TV over the Internet)
- One Squeezebox Classic
- One Duet Receiver
- Two desktop computers (one always downloading torrents)
- 1TB NAS
(- Switch)

Wireless:
- Two Duet Controllers
- One Duet Receiver
- Two Squeezebox Classic's
- One Squeezebox Boom
- Girlfriends laptop, almost always streaming Dutch online tv.
- iPhone (with me surfing on the couch)
- On and off my work laptop.

And I have no issues at all...


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Re: [slim] How do I roll back the controller firmware..

2008-10-22 Thread Skunk

Howard Passman;352077 Wrote: 
> 
> I saw the wiki about sd card updates, but it didn't tell you where to
> find the firmware list.  There was one link, but it had expired.  I
> searched wiki for the list, but I don't think I'm alone in not being
> able to find anything with the search function in wiki.  Always a dead
> end for me.  I always save those links when I do get them so for the
> future I'd love to know where the SBC firmware is posted.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Howard

I sometimes have trouble searching the wiki too, mostly because of the
page titles. 'Controller Operating System and User Interface' would be
much easier to find in a search than 'ControllerUI'. SqueezeOS is
another good example, where you can find info on updating Controller
firmware, but it's on a page titled SqueezeOS upgrades. The title of
the link to that page makes more sense from a search pt of view, which
was 'options for installing new firmware [on Controller]'.

Anyway, sorry about the rant. I think this is what you're looking for:
http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/ . The link in the wiki
appeared uneditable, btw.


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Re: [slim] How do I roll back the controller firmware..

2008-10-22 Thread Howard Passman

Skunk;352126 Wrote: 
> I sometimes have trouble searching the wiki too, mostly because of the
> page titles. 'Controller Operating System and User Interface' would be
> much easier to find in a search than 'ControllerUI'. SqueezeOS is
> another good example, where you can find info on updating Controller
> firmware, but it's on a page titled SqueezeOS upgrades. The title of
> the link to that page makes more sense from a search pt of view, which
> was 'options for installing new firmware [on Controller]'.
> 
> Anyway, sorry about the rant. I think this is what you're looking for:
> http://update.slimdevices.com/update/firmware/ . The link in the wiki
> appeared uneditable, btw.

I shall put that info away for later.  Did you see that Richard Titmuss
said there would be an updated release maybe later today to fix my
problem?  Whew, thought I was gonna go back to listening through my
stereo.  What a dork I am..

Howard


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Re: [slim] How do I roll back the controller firmware..

2008-10-22 Thread Skunk

Richard is the best.


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Re: [slim] Duet through existing 'Hi-Fi' - Big Volume Difference

2008-10-22 Thread socistep

alZmtbr;351944 Wrote: 
> The player settings are different when on SqueezeNetwork - you also will
> need to check the volume settings there as well.
> 
> http://www.squeezenetwork.com/user/login
> 
> Now why does the volume effect both digital and analogue when on SN???

*Update*

This is the unit I use

http://www.sony.com.au/catalog/product.jsp?id=CMTCP100

Not a bad basic micro system, however I do get a big volume difference
for both SN & SC compared to CD.

Will check the settings on SN to see if I can improve this. I currently
just use the supplied analogue cable from the SBR into the micro hi-fi,
how do others similar systems compare ?


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread thing-fish

orenb;352106 Wrote: 
> My current cards (on-board and SB-Live) typically can't pull it off. Is
> there a card, preferably an inexpensive one, that can?
> 

I've never been able to get them to sync, using a variety of machines
over a number of years.  They are close, but never spot-on.  I don't
think it's possible.

I just did get a second Squeezebox and was amazed that their sync is
perfect, even when using Rhapsody content over-the-internet.

Lerch


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Re: [slim] Last.fm Loved Tracks problem

2008-10-22 Thread ModelCitizen

My guess is that SqueezeNetwork (and/or SqueezeCenter?) does not realise
you are a Last.fm subscriber. I'd try deleting your account from
SqueezeNetwork (and SqueezeCenter?) and then re-adding it.

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Re: [slim] Last.fm Loved Tracks problem

2008-10-22 Thread Philip Meyer

But I do now get the option to see my own Loved Tracks, and can play my
radio station, rather than just my neighborhood.


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread Skunk

I must be one of the lucky ones. It was working ok with on-board sound
card, which is being listed as Realtek AC97.

Mine was set at lowest quality sample rate conversion and medium
hardware acceleration. Maybe you could try adjusting some settings or
minimizing DSP?


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Re: [slim] SBC: "Now Playing" Wrong - Not Refreshing

2008-10-22 Thread ModelCitizen

renkinj;332837 Wrote: 
> when I choose a song on the controller within an album it plays a
> different song than the one I chose.
I also have this, but I use 7.3 nightlies. I have not had time to
diagnose it properly yet but I have *not* been using Random Mix and
noticed it happening when I was browsing large Various Artist albums
and selecting one song to play.

I also have similar Now Playing problems but with the SB3 ui. I've
not noticed it on the Controller (but then I use it a lot less).

MC


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Re: [slim] How do I roll back the controller firmware..

2008-10-22 Thread bklaas

Skunk;352135 Wrote: 
> Richard is the best.

seconded.

FYI, there's also these instructions for having your SC push a custom
controller firmware to your controllers:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom.jive.bin

I wrote the wiki page of an OSX/Linux nature. 

The instructions are not intended for the microsoft-impaired, but
nothing presented can't be done fairly easily in windoze (and I'd hope
that person would update the wiki accordingly) 

cheers,
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Re: [slim] Duet through existing 'Hi-Fi' - Big Volume Difference

2008-10-22 Thread aubuti

socistep;352134 Wrote: 
> Not a bad basic micro system, however I do get a big volume difference
> for both SN & SC compared to CD.
>From your first post I'm not clear how you're making this comparison,
since you say you set the hifi volume to max and then control volume
via SBC. Have you tried doing it the other way around, ie, set your SB
to max volume, and then control overall volume on the Sony? That's the
most direct comparison to your CD output.


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Re: [slim] Duet through existing 'Hi-Fi' - Big Volume Difference

2008-10-22 Thread Phil Leigh

aubuti;352145 Wrote: 
> From your first post I'm not clear how you're making this comparison,
> since you say you set the hifi volume to max and then control volume
> via SBC. Have you tried doing it the other way around, ie, set your SB
> to max volume, and then control overall volume on the Sony? That's the
> most direct comparison to your CD output.

...and will also give you the best sound!
Set the Sony to the max level you ever want  to hear (with the SB on
full) and then adjust to taste using the SBC volume control


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Re: [slim] duet won't even start

2008-10-22 Thread Mark Lanctot

You should contact support.


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Re: [slim] Artwork (sort of) missing in 7.2

2008-10-22 Thread Kuro

The bug I found with 7.2 is that if I added an album artwork at a later
date, a rescan of changes would not pick up the artwork.  Only a
complete scan will pickup the added artwork.

If the artwork JPEG is present when an album is added, then rescan
changes will pick up the artwork fine.

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Re: [slim] Duet through existing 'Hi-Fi' - Big Volume Difference

2008-10-22 Thread socistep

Phil Leigh;352151 Wrote: 
> ...and will also give you the best sound!
> Set the Sony to the max level you ever want  to hear (with the SB on
> full) and then adjust to taste using the SBC volume control

My comparison is completely non technical and involves playing a flac
album through the SBR and controlling the volume via the SBC, as
mentioned before I have to set the volume to max on the Sony to get a
range of volume on the SBC that I'm happy with. I've then played the
same album direct on CD and it is a lot louder.

I haven't tried setting the volume to max on the SBR then controlling
via Sony remote, will give that a whirl.

I imagine its simply to do with how good the micro system is but am
interested in other peoples experiences, it seems a lot of people are
playing the SBR through decent kit and wouldn't get problems like
this?

*Puts another pound in the piggy bank*


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Re: [slim] How good a wireless signal is good enough?

2008-10-22 Thread maggior

True.  

I do this with all of my SBs too.  I'm running DD-WRT which gives you a
pretty good status of noise, SNR, and signal.  Based on the MAC, I can
easily tell which is which since DHCP clients are listed right below,
with host names and the last part of the MAC.


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread orenb

thing-fish;352136 Wrote: 
> 
> I just did get a second Squeezebox and was amazed that their sync is
> perfect, even when using Rhapsody content over-the-internet.

If the SB3 hardware can do it, then why can't a good sound card? I'm
not happy about spending hundreds of dollars just to be able to get my
PC to sync properly.

Oren


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread orenb

Skunk;352140 Wrote: 
> I must be one of the lucky ones. It was working ok with on-board sound
> card, which is being listed as Realtek AC97.

Can you share the motherboard brand and model? I'm curious to find the
sound chipset it uses. 

> Mine was set at lowest quality sample rate conversion and medium
> hardware acceleration. Maybe you could try adjusting some settings or
> minimizing DSP?

I'll try that, thanks.

Oren


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Re: [slim] Duet through existing 'Hi-Fi' - Big Volume Difference

2008-10-22 Thread aubuti

socistep;352166 Wrote: 
> My comparison is completely non technical and involves playing a flac
> album through the SBR and controlling the volume via the SBC, as
> mentioned before I have to set the volume to max on the Sony to get a
> range of volume on the SBC that I'm happy with. I've then played the
> same album direct on CD and it is a lot louder.
> 
> I haven't tried setting the volume to max on the SBR then controlling
> via Sony remote, will give that a whirl.
> 
> I imagine its simply to do with how good the micro system is but am
> interested in other peoples experiences, it seems a lot of people are
> playing the SBR through decent kit and wouldn't get problems like
> this?
> 
> *Puts another pound in the piggy bank*
I doubt the quality of your micro system is the issue. Rather, the
comparison you are doing is apples vs. oranges, because the CD is
presumably feeding 100% of its line output into your system's amp. That
should be roughly the same level you get if you set the Duet to 100%. If
you're setting the Duet much lower than that, then of course it won't be
as loud as the CD for any given volume setting on the Sony.


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread Peter
orenb wrote:
> thing-fish;352136 Wrote: 
>   
>> I just did get a second Squeezebox and was amazed that their sync is
>> perfect, even when using Rhapsody content over-the-internet.
>> 
>
> If the SB3 hardware can do it, then why can't a good sound card? I'm
> not happy about spending hundreds of dollars just to be able to get my
> PC to sync properly.
>   
The problem is that lots of software and drivers cause delays. I've been 
playing with some music software and virtual synths recently and an 
unavoidable problem with those is latency, very short delays between the 
time that you press a key on the (music) keyboard and when the sound 
appears. This is not a problem when playing music - that's why a 
standard PC system doesn't bother minimizing latency, but it becomes a 
big annoyance when you're playing the piano or guitar over the PC. Or, 
when you're trying to sync an SB with a PC.

The best solution is to use a sound card (or sound interface) that has 
ASIO drivers. These drivers bypass most of the Windows/Mac sound driver 
layers and access the hardware directly so that the latency is as small 
as possible. Using ASIO an acceptable latency of 3 of 4 ms is possible 
on fast systems. Of course SB's have a latency of their own, so to get 
perfect sync you should probably be able to tune the latency on the PC, 
that's possible with most ASIO drivers. You can adjust the latency.

I haven't really tried it, but I have my PC soundcards (AC97 and M-Audio 
Transit) as well as an SBR connected to a mixer, so I could do some 
tests to see if I can get the SBR and SoftSqueeze on the PC to get 
synced perfectly. I wouldn't need it myself (I have 7 SD devices) but it 
could be interesting to find out.

Regards,
Peter

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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread orenb

peter;352196 Wrote: 
> 
> The best solution is to use a sound card (or sound interface) that has
> 
> ASIO drivers.

Can you recommend an inexpensive card that supports ASIO?

> I haven't really tried it, but I have my PC soundcards (AC97 and M-Audio
> 
> Transit) as well as an SBR connected to a mixer, so I could do some 
> tests to see if I can get the SBR and SoftSqueeze on the PC to get 
> synced perfectly. I wouldn't need it myself (I have 7 SD devices) but
> it 
> could be interesting to find out.

Thanks, this could be very helpful.

Oren


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[slim] iTunes Podcasts in SqueezeBox

2008-10-22 Thread MikeekiM

Okay...I must be missing something terribly obvious...

Is there any easy/effortless way to access podcasts that you have
subscribed to via iTunes (and managed solely in iTunes)?

My expectation was that it was a simple synchronization with my
music...  But it does not appear to be the case...

Can someone either let me know what I am missing, or point me to some
simple instructions on how to access all my iTunes podcasts?

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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread Peter

On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:10:22 -0700, "orenb"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> 
> peter;352196 Wrote: 
> > 
> > The best solution is to use a sound card (or sound interface) that has
> > 
> > ASIO drivers.
> 
> Can you recommend an inexpensive card that supports ASIO?

I could, but it wouldn't do you much good. After sending my first
reaction I realized that softsqueeze probably won't support the ASIO
interface. The application needs to be ASIO-aware. I confirmed that when
trying it out.

> > I haven't really tried it, but I have my PC soundcards (AC97 and M-Audio
> > 
> > Transit) as well as an SBR connected to a mixer, so I could do some 
> > tests to see if I can get the SBR and SoftSqueeze on the PC to get 
> > synced perfectly. I wouldn't need it myself (I have 7 SD devices) but
> > it 
> > could be interesting to find out.
> 
> Thanks, this could be very helpful.

As ASIO wasn't available I just tried the M-Audio Transit (which is a
USB interface) and the Dell PC's built in audio (which is not an AC97 as
I said, but a 'Soundmax'. Turns out the Soundmax did pretty well, I
think there was probably a slight letancy that could be heard when I
mixed the SBR signal with it over the headphones. The M-Audio OTOH, did
horrible, the sound was totally out of sync. Possibly because it's
optimized as an ASIO interface and the standard Windows interface won't
be used very much.

Not much help to you, I'm afraid.

Don't buy an expensive card but experiment with cheap ones or get a
(also cheap) SB Receiver instead. That oughta work without problems.
That Soundmax card produces horrible interference noise from the video
card. It changes when I open windows and things. It's best to keep the
analog sound generation outside your PC.

Regards,
Peter
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Re: [slim] Any Video on the horizon?

2008-10-22 Thread woodhome

Thanks for the input, and I'm sorry if I touched a sore spot Autopilot. 
I'll wind up resolving the video problem somehow, and spending some $ to
do it. Like lots of people, there's no separation anymore between my
audio equipment and my TV/Video player. It's all one system. Slim
Devices are a great product and I'd rather have a system where I know
everything will play nicely together.  So if you're listening product
development...


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread iPhone

orenb;352179 Wrote: 
> If the SB3 hardware can do it, then why can't a good sound card? I'm not
> happy about spending hundreds of dollars just to be able to get my PC to
> sync properly.
> 
> Oren

One answer might be that SqueezeCenter is contolling all the Slim
Devices as dumb slave units. The PC is a smart device.

And here is my question. Why would anybody "WANT" to sync PC playback
to the quality playback of any of their Slim Devices? Of course, I know
there are a few reasons to use softSqueeze to just listen to ones music
on the PC. But if one actually owns Slim Devices, why would you want to
also sync the PC? Maybe I have too many Squeezeboxes (of course there is
no such thing) to understand the need to sync the PC also, but also for
me, I don't even care for music being played on my Creative Labs sound
card (great for games, barely OK for music). 

After all, isn't the "WHOLE" idea behind Squeezebox to free one from
the crappy music that comes from a PC? I guess Squeezebox has made me
see the light about PC music.


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread androidtopp

iPhone - I'm doing exactly what you're questioning the need for. My
house is arranged such that I can walk the circuit from office (no SB,
using SoftSqueeze) to bedroom (SBB) to living room (SB3) while tidying,
etc, going about weekend tasks. I just start up a playlist, sync all
three, and I never walk out of range of the music.

Eventually, I might upgrade to a hardware SB in the office, but for
right now, I have higher end PC speakers with decent sound, and having
the music going in the office is nice. I'll forgo audiophile quality
(since I don't have that anywhere to begin with) just to have it
playing.

I don't think you have too many squeezeboxes, but...I think you may
have more disposable income than I do...;-) 

Now, on another note - I routinely sync all three players, and I can
detect little to no lag on the PC. Even moving my SBB into the office
and syncing? I can make myself hear a sync difference, but it's
incredibly slight, if anything.

I'm running onboard sound from an ASUS motherboard, Windows Vista
Ultimate x64. So nothing terribly fancy, hardware wise.


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And my SBB as well...Is it wrong that my alarm clock is worth more than
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[slim] SqueezeCenter Service

2008-10-22 Thread panos_k75

Sometimes when I reload my server the SC service is stuck in "starting
mode" but it doesn't actually start. The tray icon keeps blinking. I
erased the cache and it keeps doing it...How I can troubleshoot this
even further?


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Re: [slim] Duet through existing 'Hi-Fi' - Big Volume Difference

2008-10-22 Thread socistep

aubuti;352182 Wrote: 
> I doubt the quality of your micro system is the issue. Rather, the
> comparison you are doing is apples vs. oranges, because the CD is
> presumably feeding 100% of its line output into your system's amp. That
> should be roughly the same level you get if you set the Duet to 100%. If
> you're setting the Duet much lower than that, then of course it won't be
> as loud as the CD for any given volume setting on the Sony.

Yep you were right, I've set the SBC to max and then controlled with
the Sony remote and the volume is now near enough the same as the CD
output, I'll leave it like this from now. Thanks all for your help

Ian


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread ModelCitizen

iPhone;352225 Wrote: 
> After all, isn't the "WHOLE" idea behind Squeezebox to free one from the
> crappy music that comes from a PC? I guess Squeezebox has made me see
> the light about PC music.
I have a few squeezeboxes/transporters etc but I don't have one in the
same room as my desktop (and why should I?).

On occasions (few, admittedly) I'd have liked Softsqueeze (or whatever)
to sync with my hardware players.

The "crappy music" from my PC is the same music that comes from the
rest of my players. I quite like it.


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread androidtopp

Yes, I can't afford to outfit every room in my house with the same
stereo I have in my living room (which itself would certainly not pass
muster with most folks on this board) so sometimes, I have to make
sacrifices...


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And my SBB as well...Is it wrong that my alarm clock is worth more than
most of my stereo components? I need to work on that.

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Re: [slim] Last.fm Loved Tracks problem

2008-10-22 Thread ModelCitizen

I'd still try deleting your account from SN, SC!

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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread starfleetcommand

mherger;352031 Wrote: 
> > Not being a programmer, I have no idea what you mean.  I just took
> the
> 
> Your file needs the following line in the header, before UI.js is
> loaded:
> 
> [% PROCESS html/SqueezeJS/Strings.js  
> %]
> 
> > Also, I can't seem to find a whole lot of documentation on SqueezeJS
> > other than what I found in the WIKI.
> 
> There isn't. There's been so little interest in it, I didn't add more
> than  
> this. Feel free to ask your questions over in the developers forum.
> I'll  
> try to answer and might work the q&a into the documentation. Thanks!
> 
> > Would be nice to get a list of
> > available options/attributes.
> 
> Of?
> 
> > One thing I would like to add to my
> > project is a method to monitor the Squeezebox state and somehow
> blank
> > the LCD when the Squeezebox isn't playing.
> 
> What LCD?
> 
> Michael


Sorry, should have been more specific. 



A list of available functions that can be polled by SqueezeJS and how
to use it.  Looks like that was answered in a later thread.  I will try
that.

As for the LCD, It is part the project I'm working on. I am building a
mini-ITX computer attached to a 17" LCD that will just display the
Artwork and song info using the very helpful SqueezeJS instructions and
sample scripts you and JJZolx provided.  The LCD will be mounted on the
wall on the other end of the room where SqueezeBox is, making it easier
for people to read the "NowPlaying".

I think there could be allot of potential for SqueezeJS.  I hope to see
more its development and documentation.  I appreciate the support you
and others have given me on this forum as I am one step closer to my
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Re: [slim] Anyone like folk music?

2008-10-22 Thread lostnthought

yeah, i suppose your right, my bad. I just really liked her when i
discovered and wanted to share.


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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread starfleetcommand

mherger;352071 Wrote: 
> > - (same question as above) get player state
> 
> SqueezeJS.Controller.playerStatus - it's an object (or hash) with the
> following items:
> 
> playerStatus = {
>   // if power is undefined, set it to on for http clients
>   power: (response.power == null) || response.power,
>   mode:  response.mode,
>   rate:  response.rate,
>   current_title: response.current_title,
>   title: response.playlist_tracks > 0 ?
> response.playlist_loop[0].title : '',
>   track: response.playlist_tracks > 0 ?
> response.playlist_loop[0].url : '',
>   index: response.playlist_cur_index,
>   duration:  parseInt(response.duration) || 0,
>   canSeek:   response.can_seek ? true : false,
>   playtime:  parseInt(response.time),
>   timestamp: response.playlist_timestamp
> };
> 
> It doesn't deliver the full list of track information. This is queried
> every 5 seconds, then passed to the UI elements.
> 
> > - get track duration
> 
> Doesn't exist (yet). The following would do:
> 
> SqueezeJS.UI.PlaytimeDuration = Ext.extend(SqueezeJS.UI.Playtime, {
>   onPlaytimeUpdate : function(playtime){
>   if (this.el && playtime)
>   
> this.el.update(SqueezeJS.Utils.formatTime(playtime.duration));
>   }
> });
> 
> Will add it if it is what you were thinking of.
> 
> > - get track title without track number
> 
> This currently doesn't exist. Needs a change in the parser.
> 
> 
> > - get track number
> 
> SqueezeJS.UI.TrackNo = Ext.extend(SqueezeJS.UI.Component, {
>   onPlayerStateChange : function(result){
>   this.el.update(result.playlist_loop[0].tracknum ?
> result.playlist_loop[0].tracknum + '. ' : '');
>   }
> });
> 
> 
> > - get album name without year
> 
> SqueezeJS.UI.AlbumTitle = Ext.extend(SqueezeJS.UI.Component, {
>   onPlayerStateChange : function(result){
>   this.el.update(SqueezeJS.SonginfoParser.album(result, 
> this.noLink));
>   }
> });
> 
> > - get album year
> 
> SqueezeJS.UI.AlbumYear = Ext.extend(SqueezeJS.UI.Component, {
>   onPlayerStateChange : function(result){
>   this.el.update(SqueezeJS.SonginfoParser.year(result, 
> this.noLink));
>   }
> });
> 
> > - display a progress bar
> 
> new SqueezeJS.UI.PlaytimeProgress('yourHTMLElement');
> 
> > - use different images for buttons and/or progress bar
> 
> That's beyond the scope of this mail... take a look at slimserver.css.
> Styles starting with x-... are overwriting ExtJS defaults. Eg. x-btn
> etc.
> 
> > - get the same information for individual tracks within current
> > playlist
> 
> Don't have an answer for this right now. All the defined components
> listen to the status query, which is about the currently playing track
> only. You'd probably have to overwrite the base class
> SqueezeJS.UI.Component, which adds the listener. Not an easy change I
> guess.
> 
> > - display playlist controls
> 
> Like fwd/rwd? They're covered in the tutorial. What else?
> 
> I'll add the above components to 7.3. Until then you might want to add
> them to your template.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

I like the idea of showing track title without the track number.  Right
now, when poll this data, some of my tracks show up as "1-7 TrackTitle"
for example.  Maybe, it is the tagging my MP3's.


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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread starfleetcommand

mherger;352071 Wrote: 
> > 
> SqueezeJS.Controller.playerStatus - it's an object (or hash) with the
> following items:
> 
> playerStatus = {
>   // if power is undefined, set it to on for http clients
>   power: (response.power == null) || response.power,
>   mode:  response.mode,
>   rate:  response.rate,
>   current_title: response.current_title,
>   title: response.playlist_tracks > 0 ?
> response.playlist_loop[0].title : '',
>   track: response.playlist_tracks > 0 ?
> response.playlist_loop[0].url : '',
>   index: response.playlist_cur_index,
>   duration:  parseInt(response.duration) || 0,
>   canSeek:   response.can_seek ? true : false,
>   playtime:  parseInt(response.time),
>   timestamp: response.playlist_timestamp
> };
> 
> It doesn't deliver the full list of track information. This is queried
> every 5 seconds, then passed to the UI elements.
> 
> 
> Michael

How would you query for "paused" or "stop" state? I know, I should be
asking in the developer forum but it goes with this thread. Again,
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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread starfleetcommand

Espen;352113 Wrote: 
> I stumbled across this one today.
> http://www.fit-pc.com/new/

Even better and smaller yet. Very cool. Thanks for the link.


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Re: [slim] Jazz Radio audio streams

2008-10-22 Thread Mike-NC

norderney;269520 Wrote: 
> I am trying to find the correct URLs to be able to access the following
> Jazz stations via my Transporter:
> 
> KSDS 88.3 San Diego, CA  - Higher Quality Stream
> http://www.jazz88.org/listen.php
> 
> 
> KCSM San Mateo, California 
> http://www.kcsm.org/jazz91/listen.php
> 
> 
> WBGO Newark, NJ 
> http://www.wbgo.org/listennow/
> Many thanks.

For KSDS, I use:  http://brightcast.org:8000
for KCSM, I use:  http://wm-live.abacast.com/kcsm-kcsmwmp641-64

You could also try

KKJZ: http://www.live365.com/play/kkjz1
jazzy: http://195.56.151.105:9042
JazzFM (Canada): http://206.223.188.169:8002 
KHMD: http://sc1.abacast.com:8086

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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread orenb

peter;352219 Wrote: 
> 
> As ASIO wasn't available I just tried the M-Audio Transit (which is a
> USB interface) and the Dell PC's built in audio (which is not an AC97
> as
> I said, but a 'Soundmax'. Turns out the Soundmax did pretty well, I
> think there was probably a slight letancy that could be heard when I
> mixed the SBR signal with it over the headphones. The M-Audio OTOH,
> did
> horrible, the sound was totally out of sync. Possibly because it's
> optimized as an ASIO interface and the standard Windows interface
> won't
> be used very much.

Well, good thing that I didn't rush to buy one then ;-)

> Don't buy an expensive card but experiment with cheap ones or get a
> (also cheap) SB Receiver instead.

$150 (for the SB Receiver) isn't that cheap. I'd rather get a $50 sound
card if I can find one that syncs properly.


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread orenb

iPhone;352225 Wrote: 
> And here is my question. Why would anybody "WANT" to sync PC playback to
> the quality playback of any of their Slim Devices?

The PC playback quality is fine for my modest requirements. The sound
card is only used as a digital output. It's connected to the S/PDIF
input of my Harman/Kardon AVR-200 receiver, which drives a couple of
Tannoy MX2 speakers. Not audiophile gear by any means, but good enough
for my workroom.

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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread Pat Farrell
orenb wrote:
> $150 (for the SB Receiver) isn't that cheap. I'd rather get a $50 sound
> card if I can find one that syncs properly.

I would *not* expect that you can find one.

What you want is not mass market, its not what most folks want.

If you are in the US, got to your local Guitar Center, and talk to them.
You need an audio I/O card designed for music, recording. Look at "pro
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Re: [slim] Last.fm Loved Tracks problem

2008-10-22 Thread Phil Meyer
>I'd still try deleting your account from SN, SC!
>
Thanks - it worked!  I'll file a bug report.

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[slim] Boom aux input gain low?

2008-10-22 Thread Phil Karn Jr, KA9Q
I just got my Boom. Works great as a network player. I hooked my iPod up
to the aux input and found that the gain is VERY low. With the iPod and
Boom both cranked all the way up, I can just hear it across the room.

What is the rated sensitivity of the Boom aux input?
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[slim] Voice Activated Squeeze Center?

2008-10-22 Thread FredFredrickson

I've written a smart-house utility to control my lights in my house via
voice command over a network of microphones wired up in my house. Since
I have squeezebox receivers all over my house, it only made sense to add
them to my app.

What do you guys think? anything you'd care about ? It doesn't have
much of a practical use.. but maybe I'd polish it up if anybody
cares...


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[slim] How do I upgrade to Squeezecenter?

2008-10-22 Thread pcumming

Feel free to refer me to another post.

I run a copy of Slimserver 6.x against my Squeezebox 2.

If I want to upgrade to Squeeze Center what problems will I run into??
I have an XM radio plugin installed, random mix, music folder on my PC
that is scanned, all settings, etc..

What is the process to install this...uninstall other, etc..

Thanks
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Re: [slim] Voice Activated Squeeze Center?

2008-10-22 Thread FredFredrickson

More shots of it


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox 3 - No sound.

2008-10-22 Thread Snowbell

Thanks for the suggestion but no luck.  I don't remember the exact
massage but on power up it said it was resetting the chip. No sound.
Re-powered, still no sound.  Tried it all again, no sound.

Any other ideas?


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Re: [slim] Boom aux input gain low?

2008-10-22 Thread Phil Karn
I just found the aux gain setting in the squeezecenter config page. It was
at 50%. Turning it to 100% helped, but it's still not as high as it should
be.
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Re: [slim] Voice Activated Squeeze Center?

2008-10-22 Thread upstatemike

I am always interested in ways to simplify the user experience for
guests, casual users, and the elderly. Does your system require a lot
of voice training or is it speaker independent? Could a stranger speak
a command to select something from a short pre-defined list, as in
"play billy Joel" or "play Capitol Radio"?


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox 3 - No sound.

2008-10-22 Thread seanadams

Reset (hold power) and then press "3" on the splash screen. You should
get a (loud!!) 1KHz tone. If you hear the tone then your hardware is
OK. Either way, the next step would probably be to contact support for
further troubleshooting or replacement.

Also of course be sure to check cables and try the digital outputs.


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread Skunk

orenb;352180 Wrote: 
> Can you share the motherboard brand and model? I'm curious to find the
> sound chipset it uses. 
> 

Not sure if it's a chipset or just the CPU and a codec, but the model
is ECS P4M800PRO-M (V2.0), Audio Spec:
Realtek ALC655 6-Channel audio CODEC
Compliant with AC'97 2.3 specification.

The sound card I have (Hercules Digifire) works equally well. I have a
Sound Blaster I could try also, but I'm 90% sure it would work.

This is with an Intel Core2 Duo, 1G ram, and a clean Win2k. There are a
lot more variables than just the card, and I don't think going and
buying an expensive one is a guaranteed solution. I would buy a cheap
one locally and return it if it doesn't work. If the the one after that
doesn't work I'd look at the other hardware/software before spending a
ton on a card (for this application).


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Re: [slim] Voice Activated Squeeze Center?

2008-10-22 Thread Skunk

Thanks.

Can't say I'd use it right away, but if I ever get around to hooking up
a cheap laptop+Receiver to the aux RCA inputs on my car's cd player it
would be fun to try.  It would be great to have a random mix cued and
just say 'next', without having to take the cellphone away from my ear
to push skip :-) In fact, it's nearly a necessity for safely enjoying
the Squeezebox while moving, so I'd say keep it around.


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread iPhone

ModelCitizen;352255 Wrote: 
> 
> The "crappy music" from my PC is the same music that comes from the
> rest of my players. I quite like it. MC

I guess I should have typed, "less then pleasing playback reproduction"
instead of "crappy Music". Because you are one hundred percent correct
that as far as the music goes it is the same no matter if on a Slim
Device or on SoftSqueeze.

I was speaking to the quality of the sound from a PC verses that from a
Slim Device. I should not have used the word music. Could have used
"cappy sound".

That will teach me to post when I'm tired.


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Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1  

Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM
Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom
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[slim] Program To Conver .wav To Wma Lossless Or Flac

2008-10-22 Thread MOMENTUM

Ok I spent over 2 weeks dumping in my cd collection (1600) & (yes in
wav) to 
my computer to find that .wav files are not tag friendly.  i did used
the wmp 
option to fimd album info during the process.  all cover art/info etc
shows 
up in wmp

Is ther a program someone can suggest that can convert these files on
my 
harddrive into flac or wma lossless and tag them.

Thanx!


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Re: [slim] Program To Conver .wav To Wma Lossless Or Flac

2008-10-22 Thread Pat Farrell
MOMENTUM wrote:
> Is ther a program someone can suggest that can convert these files on
> my   harddrive into flac or wma lossless and tag them.

Flac (or more properly flac) will do it.
What OS are you using?
When you install flac on Windows, it includes FlacFrontEnd, which
converts and can set the tags if you stored the files in a semi-rational
 file structure, such as
c:\songs\
with separate subdirectories for genre, artist, and album.
So if you have c:\songs\rock\wilco\yankee_hotel_foxtrot
all you have to do is drag and drop.

It takes a while, but you can start it and go to bed.


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread iPhone

androidtopp;352229 Wrote: 
> iPhone - I'm doing exactly what you're questioning the need for. My
> house is arranged such that I can walk the circuit from office (no SB,
> using SoftSqueeze) to bedroom (SBB) to living room (SB3) while tidying,
> etc, going about weekend tasks. I just start up a playlist, sync all
> three, and I never walk out of range of the music.
> 
> Eventually, I might upgrade to a hardware SB in the office, but for
> right now, I have higher end PC speakers with decent sound, and having
> the music going in the office is nice. I'll forgo audiophile quality
> (since I don't have that anywhere to begin with) just to have it
> playing.
> 
> I don't think you have too many squeezeboxes, but...I think you may
> have more disposable income than I do...;-) 
> 
> Now, on another note - I routinely sync all three players, and I can
> detect little to no lag on the PC. Even moving my SBB into the office
> and syncing? I can make myself hear a sync difference, but it's
> incredibly slight, if anything.
> 
> I'm running onboard sound from an ASUS motherboard, Windows Vista
> Ultimate x64. So nothing terribly fancy, hardware wise.

Yeah, I guess it’s mainly a quality issue for me. Not the quality of
SoftSqueeze, but of a PC sound card and PC speakers. I spend so much
time in my office in front of a PC when the markets are open, I felt I
had to have a small system in the office that was above the sound
available from a soundcard and PC speakers.

Speaking of computers, has anybody checked to see if it makes a
difference if softSqueeze is running on the same PC as SC? Does running
SC on a server and softSqueeze on another PC help or hurt the sync
issue?

Also when I have run softSqueeze on the office PC, I have seen some odd
behavior. It locks up or crashes every time I play Acoustic Alchemy -The
Colonel and the Ashes-. There are no issues with any of the Squeezeboxes
playing this song. It also does this on one of  Michael Hedges CDs. And
now looking up both of the songs, they both happen to be track 6.
Wonder what that is all about?


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Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1  


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Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1  

Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM
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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread Skunk

iPhone;352225 Wrote: 
> 
> After all, isn't the "WHOLE" idea behind Squeezebox to free one from
> the crappy music that comes from a PC? I guess Squeezebox has made me
> see the light about PC music.

But this thread isn't about PC music vs. SB, it's about listening at
the PC (or a place quality doesn't matter) and being within earshot of
actual hardware players on systems that deserve them. I'm sure we all
agree the long wire approach leaves a lot to be desired.

But at my PC, I'd find it a little redundant and ironic to set a small
music-playing computer on top of my pc, which is more than capable of
the task.


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Re: [slim] Artwork Display

2008-10-22 Thread starfleetcommand

When I run the script with IE 7 on XP Pro SP3, it displays normally (as
seen here).  However, when I run it from an Win2000 SP4, It gives me a
syntax error stating module not defined.  What gives?  I've also
attached the script, which I want to thank JJZolx provided and I
modified based on input from mherger.  Thanks to you both.


+---+
|Filename: nowplaying.txt   |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6098|
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Re: [slim] Announcement Squeezecenter 7.2.1

2008-10-22 Thread kevmacmills

mvalera;351955 Wrote: 
> The new SqueezeCenter 7.2.1 release is now available at:
> 
> http://www.slimdevices.com/su_downloads.html
> 
> 

Super!  When will we see this in debian stable
(http://debian.slimdevices.com stable main)?  I still get 7.2...

Thanks!


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Re: [slim] Audio Problems - Softsqueeze 3.3 on Mac Leopard OSX 10.5

2008-10-22 Thread Malor

I think it must be a bug in Java.  I now get scratchy sound in the right
speaker, on a Mac Pro, with every version of Softsqueeze I've tried,
back to the version that came with 6.5.4.  I've tried at least 3.4,
3.6, and 3.7, and 3.4 worked great for me for a LONG time, so this is a
recent change.  I thought it was the recent Softsqueezes causing the
problem, but it isn't. 

I think this is a Mac bug, but if you folks can find an easy
workaround, that would be wonderful.

Thanks!


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Re: [slim] What sound card should I use to get accurate sync between SB3 and SoftSqueeze?

2008-10-22 Thread Peter

orenb wrote:
peter;352219 Wrote: 
  

As ASIO wasn't available I just tried the M-Audio Transit (which is a
USB interface) and the Dell PC's built in audio (which is not an AC97
as
I said, but a 'Soundmax'. Turns out the Soundmax did pretty well, I
think there was probably a slight letancy that could be heard when I
mixed the SBR signal with it over the headphones. The M-Audio OTOH,
did
horrible, the sound was totally out of sync. Possibly because it's
optimized as an ASIO interface and the standard Windows interface
won't
be used very much.



Well, good thing that I didn't rush to buy one then ;-)
  


Certainly, I warned you I hadn't tried it though...

Don't buy an expensive card but experiment with cheap ones or get a
(also cheap) SB Receiver instead.



$150 (for the SB Receiver) isn't that cheap. I'd rather get a $50 sound
card if I can find one that syncs properly.
  


That's a lot cheaper than the 1st generation soundblaster I once bought ;)

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Re: [slim] Program To Conver .wav To Wma Lossless Or Flac

2008-10-22 Thread Peter

MOMENTUM wrote:
> Ok I spent over 2 weeks dumping in my cd collection (1600) & (yes in
> wav) to 
> my computer to find that .wav files are not tag friendly.  i did used
> the wmp 
> option to fimd album info during the process.  all cover art/info etc
> shows 
> up in wmp
>
> Is ther a program someone can suggest that can convert these files on
> my 
> harddrive into flac or wma lossless and tag them.
>   

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/dmc.htm

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[slim] duet dropping songs on pandora

2008-10-22 Thread drummer

i listen to pandora radio most of the time and for some reason at times
a song will stop playing and will go to the next one. i have tried
re-installing the music flashcard and have changed the channel that my
router broadcast on and i still have the skipping problem. has anyone
out there in duetland had this problem? if so---what did you do to fix
it.


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