Re: [slim] So when's the fire sale, Logitech?
Still have a few SB3s and a Boom procured from Circuit City's closing sale for cheap. Should be set for awhile... syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96211 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Hardware advice sought..
+1 for using virtual machines instead of dual booting I suggest 8-16GB of memory and a quad core chip, though there doesn't seem to be much of a point to quad over dual cores for most tasks. Perhaps the extra cores could be dedicated to running Ubuntu in a VM... This stuff is so much faster and less expensive than it used to be that raw performance has not driven me to upgrade in a long time. These days it is about features and design. I think the integrated graphics have finally caught up with Windows performance requirements, so if you aren't playing games then just about any board should be good enough Some considerations: - *Low power* parts (especially CPUs) need less cooling, and less cooling means less noise. For the same performance, lower TDP CPUs are a lot more expensive than their higher power siblings. "A lot" is in percentage terms. The incremental price is still less than the price of a few cocktails - *ECC* memory is seriously worth considering, especially if you don't reboot often (i.e. suspend/standby instead of a cold boot). ECC support makes overclocking a bad idea (so I've heard) and rules out almost every non-Xeon Intel board (Intel has used ECC as a key feature to differentiate their consumer and enterprise parts even though there really isn't any incremental cost to support ECC). In theory all AMD boards should support ECC, but in practice only Asus has it listed on their spec sheets. Fortunately Asus seems to have feature-competitive offerings in every form factor - A *SSD* disk for your OS will provide the a noticeable performance improvement because I/O is almost always the limiting factor these days. SSDs are not so expensive and (apparently) when they "fail" they just become read-only. Storing swap and hibernation files on SSD makes me queasy, but I do it anyway because they are not terrifically expensive -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88923 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Whs 2011
Just did -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88862 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
Not really specific to the application, but I would love to purchase this app and have no difficulty purchasing other applications on the Android marketplace, but attempting to buy this one yields an error of "We're sorry. Please use another payment method. The selected payment method cannot be used to pay in this seller's currency." regardless of which credit card I try. Any suggestions? Am in US -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Display Brightness
Set the Stop and Off screensavers to None and decrease the idle brightness (even to "off") if you are really worried. Aware that VFDs inevitably wear out (think: old stereo gear) I've been doing this since acquiring my first SB player years ago and none of them appear to have dimmed in any noticeable way yet. Good luck! -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75219 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best of Luck - moving on...
andynormancx;452011 Wrote: > Have you not seen the discussion on the upcoming Squeezebox Touch player > ? Haven't been trawling these forums closely enough. If it lives up to expectations I've my wallet at the ready. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67040 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best of Luck - moving on...
Wish you the best with Sonos. For me the 65k library size limit is a problem (of course I don't actually listen to 65k tracks, but who wants to spend the time to cull the tracks that -don't- get played?). Am pleased with my SB3s, Booms, and Transporter. It (now) works reliably (as long as I don't upgrade SC often) and is easy for uninitiated users to figure out. I too have avoided the receiver and controller. Guests often wonder how this "wireless music thing" works, but I've stopped explaining it because it is beyond my average tech savvy friend's grasp to reliably run SS/SC and a network of players without getting too frustrated in the process of making it all work (and I live a pretty tech savvy bit of the world). It should be very clear that as of 2009 many of the sort of people interested in this product no longer have (or want) a desktop PC, and running SC on a laptop is an unattractive proposition (SC gorges on memory like few other consumer apps, and people like to suspend/sleep their laptops to save battery power!). I think a PogoPlug style SC7 appliance with USB drives and *no wireless NIC* would help a lot (tell people to plug it into their router. I've never seen/heard of an a SB owner without a Linksys/D-Link/whatever router). Put LEDs on it to indicate when that it has a connection to the Internet (or SqueezeNetwork, or just a DHCP lease), a connection to 1 or more SB players (perhaps it could blink or change color when it finds un-configured players), and a light to indicate when SC is ready/rescanning the library. USB hard drives are cheap and simplicity is golden, so don't over-feature it and make it a FreeNAS/WHS clone. PogoPlugs cost $99, but I think a SC appliance would be worth at least as much as a Boom, and I might even be persuaded to pay some sort of subscription fee for radio and ongoing SC updates (if this is what it would take to get better quality SC releases). My $0.02. More selfishly, can we have an officially supported iPod Touch interface and a modern (meaning fast & responsive) web interface to SC? -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67040 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] I am leaving Logitech!
Want to add my thanks for a terrific product -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=63759 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone using an SB2 or SB3 as a wireless bridge to a PC?
andrei_c;423673 Wrote: > This sounds like a Wi-Fi or router issue. I have no problem streaming > 720p and 1080p videos through the Squeezebox3 and crossover cable. Quite possibly, but it's the SB3 that reboots itself periodically not the router. The router is really an embedded PC running m0n0wall. It's quite usable and performant, but has a lot of the same characteristics as a laptop connected to a wireless network in an urban environment. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58765 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Anyone using an SB2 or SB3 as a wireless bridge to a PC?
It's OK for web browsing, but not for continuous high traffic (interruptions when using VOIP or p2p for hours at a time in the form of the player occasionally rebooting itself). Works fine with music streaming or not. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58765 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 Bridge
Like 'this' (http://blog.syburgh.com/2007/07/08/use-squeezebox-as-wireless-bridge/)? -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=58270 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] NYTimes - Cisco to enter the Home Digital Entertainment Market
I agree above this being a positive development for the market, though it doesn't appeal much to me as an existing SB user. Assuming they deliver as promised it does look like a better Sonos than Sonos (feature by feature-- especially the iPod dock). More interesting (for me), Cisco's approach suggests that the rest of the market sees value in a player design subject to fewer constraints than the existing SB2+ derived products-- maybe something with more CPU, more RAM, more flash, a USB port, and Controller-like open (well, mostly) environment? Exciting changes from a consumer standpoint! -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Found Local Store With Good Deal on Duets
Any Booms at YDI? -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56799 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Does SC run smoothly on an Asus eee Box?
I also have an MSI Wind PC that seems to be the best SC7 server I've had. It has the same basic hardware as the Asus PC (no wireless, larger footprint). I run CentOS Linux and have it configured to automatically suspend during inactive periods (uses only 2-3W when suspended) and resumes when SB player sends a WOL packet (<10s from WOL packet to usable SC navigation). Here are my 'setup notes' (http://wiki.syburgh.com/audio0-local). This is a fairly powerful machine, but the SC7 web interface could be faster (it's about 1000ms per page when browsing the Album list, 6.5.4 interface didn't have album art and seemed faster). They seem to be improving the web interface's latency with 7.2.1, and I hope to see further enhancement over time. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54591 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement Squeezecenter 7.2.1
syburgh;354442 Wrote: > bump, no 7.2.1 at > http://repos.slimdevices.com/yum/squeezecenter/release/ Fixed now. Thanks! -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54045 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement Squeezecenter 7.2.1
mvalera;353923 Wrote: > The repositories will be updated shortly, hopefully today. > > Matt Wise is currently busy trying to solve some hellish network > problems. He won't be able to move the files around until he tackles > them. > > Mike bump, no 7.2.1 at http://repos.slimdevices.com/yum/squeezecenter/release/ -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54045 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement Squeezecenter 7.2.1
7.2.1 is also not yet available in the squeezecenter-stable YUM repository (http://repos.slimdevices.com/yum/squeezecenter/release/) for Fedora/RHEL/CentOS. YUM still says 7.2 is most recent as of Mon Oct 27 12:14:59 UTC 2008 -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54045 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Just curious: when/why did you get your first Slim/Logitech player?
Mine was a long and extravagant road. I wanted a database to track my music library, and wrote several over the years: ModPerl+MySQL (inventory only), AOLserver+Oracle (included lossy MP3 encodings for a few hundred CDs), and finally settled on a (in retrospect, strangely) flexible solution using LDAP for metadata and hacked XBoxes running a custom Linux install (tuned to a shoutcast server for synchronization, though that never really worked well). The XBoxes worked much like a VFD-less SB and cost significantly more and produced inferior quality output. After writing off my own development efforts, I purchased an SB2 and just used it for a few years. It was very functional for playback, which ended up outweighing the lack of good metadata. It died a slow death as the power supply misbehaved (random power loss, and later, dodgy Ethernet connectivity and a dead display). It did work well enough that I replaced it with several SB3s (all of which continue to work well). Maybe a Boom would be nice for the kitchen... I like to keep notes on music as I acquire, enjoy, and otherwise encounter it over time. Neither SC7 not last.fm support this in a usable way. Maybe library management and flexible metadata will make it into some future SC release... -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53831 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] which protocol and port for WOL
To clarify, the premise of your question is incorrect. Like DHCP, WOL works at a lower layer than TCP and UDP (so no port). There is not even an IP address involved. WOL magic packets are broadcast and identified by the target system based on its hardware (MAC) address. How is your SB3 connected to your server (wireless, wired, and any routers involved)? How is the laptop connected to the server? -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53862 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] IPv6 Support
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53800 Question: Should IPv6 be supported? - Yes - No - I Don't Really Care - What Is IPv6 Anyway? I believe these wireless modules have a more finite life than other semiconductors (and yes, could always use wired). Would be surprised if most users were still reliant on the SB3/Boom/Receiver/etc. players other than for nostalgia by the time IPv6 was necessary to have a good user experience. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53800 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] My wish for a new product
UPnP support could be a solution, and outsourcing the entire SC instance would be most desirable (with VPS prices these days, it's not too far over the horizon for DIY). I think the OP has a point. Cost of such an embedded-SC device could be contained if it was an 'NSLU2' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSLU2)-style, with ports to attach peripheral USB disks and CDROM drives for storage and ripping. It's not a stretch to see SC7 run on such a device (the hardware in an modern mobile handset is nearly sufficient). A PC could manage it as a USB slave device or via web interface. So BOM would at least need: modern CPU (Intel Atom comes to mind), 256MB-512MB of RAM, sufficient flash memory for OS+SC+future, wireless and wired NICs, USB controllers, PSU, case. SD/Logitech is already supporting one such platform (the controller) which has most of the necessary features (though not in the necessary quantity for a good user experience running SC), so I don't see why it would be too hard to apply that experience to a SC appliance. This would also be a great reason to rework SC to be less resource hungry. I am still baffled by the incredible memory consumption and poor web UI performance (400-2000 msec per pageview on modern 1+ GHz hardware is shockingly slow). IME, SC uses much more memory than the combined footprint of a standard Redhat/Fedora installation, and this is before the first library scan (starts at 60-80MB, grows to 110-150MB with 10k tracks). Fortunately SC7 seems pretty stable, and hardware is cheap these days. I wouldn't trade the cross-platform or reliability aspects for better performance. The economics clearly exist: wouldn't an 'Apple TV' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_TV) (released over two years ago) have nearly everything necessary after stripping out the disk? I can buy an MSI Wind PC for '$150' (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856167032) at retail today. This sounds like a modest undertaking on the hardware side, so I would guess that research indicates there is simply not a large enough market for such a device (or a preference for players with more in-built functionality, Roku-style). If the "success" of WHS and the original NSLU2 are any indication, the market for such a device is probably smaller than we forum regulars might hope. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52559 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Big libraries?
Dermaplex;344128 Wrote: > Hi there, > > Please could you tell me if the Squeezebox can handle big libraries > (like 150G+ )? > > Thanks! > > Dplx The limitation is the system where you run the SqueezeCenter server software. If this is a reasonably modern (P4 and newer should have no problem) system with 100-200MB of RAM available for SC7 then you can expect excellent performance. If you want to run SC7 on its own dedicated system then this is possible with modest hardware. Issues arise when trying to run SC7 on embedded systems or appliances with limited RAM and CPU (SC7 likes RAM, 100-200MB just for SC with a large library). You will also want a >=1Ghz CPU if you need snappy performance from the web interface (controller/SB navigation is snappy with lower spec hardware). I have a 1.2GHz Celeron system with 1GB of RAM dedicated to running SC7. It is grossly overpowered for the 1TB of FLAC files and several players it serves. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=53064 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FF & Rewind using 7.2 ROCKS
+1 for original post, and +1 for the configurable advance suggestion above I can see there may have been some value to the original approach for a few use cases, but it never worked well enough for me to bother and the original functionality was not what unfamiliar users expected to see (in my experience it was most often the first "rough edge" they would find in an otherwise impressive initial impression). The 7.2 solution is quite serviceable but IMO the iPod still has much more usable FF/RW scan/seek support, so there is room for additional improvement. While the iPod UI is not perfect (or even good, in some cases), it does seem to have become something of a de facto standard by which others are judged for many potential users (as with Windows 95 UI sets expectations for many PC users). -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=52616 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 and Wake On LAN
It sounds like the SC7 system supports WOL and is correctly configured Is your SB3 connected using wired or wireless ethernet? Is you server connected using wired or wireless ethernet? If one is wired and the other is wireless then the wireless bridge could be the cause of the issue. With the server off, power on the SB3 and press the left arrow button on the remote. Scroll through the "Squeezebox Setup" menu until you find "Current settings" (option 2 of 4, in my case). Within this menu you can view the value of the "SqueezeCenter MAC address". Confirm that this value matches the actual MAC address of the SC7 system. If it does not, it may match the MAC address of your wireless bridge. In this case you can edit the value and see if it sends the magic packet to the correct MAC address (I've no idea whether it is stored or not as this never been a problem for me). If none of this is applicable to you, try connecting the PC and SB3 together directly using a patch cord and see if you can wake the PC using the SB3 (will need to assign IP addresses to both manually). This will isolate any network issues. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51288 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB3 and Wake On LAN
Do you see a message "Waking up SqueezeCenter" when powering on the SB3 with the server powered off? This feature was not always part of the SB3 firmware (AFAIK), so are you running a recent version of SC/SS? You could also have issues if the SB3 is on a different IP subnet than the server, or if there is a network bridge between the server and the players (i.e. the SB3 sends the magic packet to the bridge MAC address, not the server MAC address). -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51288 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] shutting off at a specific time
Your SqueezeCenter will need to do this. Probably many ways to do this,
a cron script (Linux, etc.) or a Scheduled Tast (Windows) would work
well.
Either way you will would use the CLI to issue the command ("
power 0", see 'CLI documentation'
(http://www.marina.obradovic.com/html/docs/cli-api.html#power) where
is the SB MAC address)
Maybe there is a plugin that also does this?
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Re: [slim] Enabling Wake On Lan
SB knows MAC address of server because they are on same segment (uses dynamic ARP). If they aren't (e.g. proxy arp or different subnets) then it will send the WOL packet to the wrong MAC address (e.g. the router's MAC address in the case of proxy arp or routing). Different routers handle wireless in different ways-- if the cable router bridges the segments (so SB knows server's real MAC address) then WOL will work. If it does something other than simple bridging than the SB will send the WOL packet to the wrong MAC address and the server will not receive it. Can validate whether the router is the issue by temporarily connecting SB to wired segment on router to test WOL. If it works then the server is fine and the router is the issue. Good luck! BTW: Static IP vs DHCP will not change this situation -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49204 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB has brought my network to its knees
Sounds very abnormal-- hard to encounter capacity issues with a single SB. Are you sure the patch cable are good? -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49196 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Register Duet Review
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/06/23/review_logitech_squeezebox_duet/ -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49161 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slightly OT - RAID corruption
Don't have any specific advice, but you do have my sympathies... :( Did you run the md sync_action check with the filesystem unmounted? What filesystem is you used? No swap partition on this md? OT: 2008 may not be the year, but ZFS is supposed to make these sorts of consistency issues much less likely -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48881 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Survey: What's your listening to fiddling ratio?
SqueezeCenter is reliable and doesn't seem to need maintenance, so fiddling seems to be entirely optional. Have had 3 SBs for about 2 years, with 2 SS/SC installs in that time. Have cumulatively spent 24 hours of fiddling (OS and hardware issues, SS/SC has never needed significant work) and about 922 hours of listening (according TrackStat), or a 1:38 ratio. I expect this to improve significantly over the next few years (or until I outsource SC entirely). VIRTUAL MACHINE The first was a virtual machine, which took about 6 hours to set up and tweak (CentOS 4 on VMWare ESX, SlimServer v6.5). Most of that time was spent evaluating various SS plugins. I didn't bother messing around (or updating) it for about a year-- just dropped in additional music using CIFS/SMB. STANDALONE SYSTEM As my library grew it consumed all the available storage on the VM server, so I needed a separate system to run SC7. This took much longer as I wanted it to be - Fanless: getting hardware to run this way is much harder than for a normal system - Automatically suspend/hibernate when not in use: needed to learn SS/SC CLI, discover hardware specific power management quirks - Install of SC7 itself required nearly no time at all: yum install squeezecenter (used same plugins as my previous install) - CentOS 5 with readonly-root and scripted build (also evaluated FreeNAS+SlimNAS, but was not satisfied with lack FreeBSD support for Wake on LAN or usable ACPI power management) Needed 2 (mostly fun) weekends of concerted hacking to make my standalone system work (about 18 hours), but have not done anything to it since March. SqueezeCenter is somewhat like Asterisk in that it can be endlessly tweaked and modified, but doesn't actually need the attention. FUTURE I want to outsource SC in the future and expect there will be a $20 VPS with cheap storage (or hosted SC service) by the time I am in the market for this again. (I hope) Nobody buys SB/Duet systems for the pleasure of installing and maintaining a local SC instance. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48751 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Announcement: SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 Now Available
Release Yum repository not updated yet (still 7.0): http://repos.slimdevices.com/yum/squeezecenter/release/ -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47663 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Several plugins does not work on SlimNAS
TrackStat works with SlimServer 6.5.1 on SlimNAS -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47564 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Energy saving thoughts and tips
Agree with most of the previous posters-- I use a Core based system with passive cooling and laptop drives. It's about 19W with SpeedStep at lowest speed (never increases except when transcoding FLAC to MP3 files). I use WOL with a 30 min timeout to suspend the system and wake using SB3 (takes a few seconds to resume). Understand the Controller will soon have this functionality. Economics will support running SqueezeCenter in a VPS at some point soon-- each FLAC stream is about 1 Mbit/s and latency is not bad with fast connections (e.g. some cable services, FIOS, etc.). The bandwidth costs could be an issue (about 450 MB/hour), but I don't spend enough time at home for it to be an issue (maybe play music 20-30 hours/month). Currently storage is probably the most significant limit-- most VPS plans have small limits (tens of GB) as they have to absorb cost of users who make larger IO demands (e.g. DB, mail spool, etc.) than a single user SqueezeCenter. Something like a cheap Xen VM (e.g. Slicehost) for $20/month would probably be good if it had the necessary storage... Not a great idea to run SC7 open to the public Internet, but many home routers support VPN... -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46780 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SBC wake up computer
Vote for enhancement '#5378' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5378), maybe scheduled for SC 7.1 -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44798 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New York Times Article on Digital Music
The analysis in the NYT article seems limited, and appears to miss the benefits (beyond saving floorspace) that would motivate one to transfer their library to "digital" form... >From SO point of view, outsourcing the initial ripping is probably a requirement (not worth trading that kind of time for ~$1/CD), so the (infrequently used) ability of the device to rip audio is less than it may initially appear. Would rather buy a few rooms worth SD or Sonos equipment for the same price... Will avoid ranting on this as this audience is already converted :) -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43724 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Power on-->Wake on lan-->Power on again - Why?
Says "Waking SlimServer" for ~30s, then returns to off state. It takes my server 35s to start SlimServer, so have to press Power again to begin navigation. You're seen this enhancement request, but maybe others have not: '4782' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4782). This would resolve the issue of SB3 switching off after sending WOL, no? -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43543 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Unending trouble with Wake on LAN
They might ask you what percentage of customers are willing to figure this out. :) Great to hear it's working -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Unending trouble with Wake on LAN
The two NICs you mentioned are both Realtek based (8111B and 8169S), so despite different branding it is quite possible they have drivers with similar deficiencies. Might want to try a *non*-Realtek NIC. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Unending trouble with Wake on LAN
Works well for me on Windows, has a number of WOL settings in the driver: - Enable/disable Windows control of WOL - Enable/disable Wake-on-Link (in driver) - Determine whether traffic, a magic packet, or both will be can wake PC (in driver) My SlimServer is not on a Windows PC, so I can't confirm that the Intel gigabit NIC drivers work as expected with SB3, but would be surprised if it did not. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Unending trouble with Wake on LAN
Linksys EG1032 v3 'appears ' (http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-bugs/2006-January/016388.html) to be another Realtek chip, RTL8169S -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Unending trouble with Wake on LAN
I see on Gigabyte's 'site' (http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/Motherboard/Driver_Model.aspx?ProductID=2624) that this board has a Realtek 8111B based NIC, no idea whether WOL support for this works well in Windows, but the latest drivers reference lots of changes to WOL in the changelog. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Unending trouble with Wake on LAN
I should have read more closely. Sounds like a Windows+driver issue to me, but I've not run SS on Windows, so it's just speculation: 1. Are you sure the driver is waking only on magic packets, and not on unicast/multicast traffic as well? It is common for both to be possible, and as SBs have such a chatty protocol this could interrupt the shutdown process. SB3s are "soft off" and communicate with the server even though they appear to be switched off. SqueezeNetwork essentially replaces the local SlimServer for net radio, so the SB3s will not communicate (often) with your server whilst on SqueezeNetwork. 2. What NIC are you using? What driver version (Windows standard, OEM)? Might be worth trying a NIC with a different chipset, from another vendor, to see whether this changes the symptoms. I can confirm that my own BSD based SlimServer wakes up at inappropriate times if unicast WOL is enabled, seemingly due to traffic from SB3s. Configuring the NIC to wake *only* on magic packets completely resolved my problems. Have no direct experience with this, but hopefully this helps -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Unending trouble with Wake on LAN
If the SB3 and server are connected using a combination of wired and wireless, then you may have a bridging issue with your router (some routers even place wired and wireless segments on different IP subnets). How are they connected? WOL does work-- I have SB3s connected using a L2 switch to the server and WOL works great. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Want to be able to run the SBR with the SB3 remote?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42229 Question: Do you want to be able to control the new SBR with your SBx-remote? - Of course I want to! - Nah, why should I? peterw;258694 Wrote: > Look at BottleRocket -- with X-10 or Insteon appliance modules, you can > use BottleRocket to have the power to your receiver supplied when your > player powers on, and shut off when your player powers off. Sounds like a great solution. Depends on the 'br' utility, which appears to work on FreeBSD as well as Windows and Linux. Will need to compile it for FreeNAS/SlimNAS... -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Want to be able to run the SBR with the SB3 remote?
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42229 Question: Do you want to be able to control the new SBR with your SBx-remote? - Of course I want to! - Nah, why should I? Want to hide the SBR in the closet with the receiver. So an IR receiver would not be useful to me. I *would* love to have IR-Blaster capability in the SBR to switch on said receiver, but there does not appear to be a headphone jack on the SBR so it may not be possible. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42229 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Filtering out duplicate tracks?
Library structure is a hard question. My experience is similiar: I also do FLAC for local Squeezeboxes and MP3 (for the gym iPod). If you're on UNIX, you could also work up some find + sort + grep magic to delete old MP3 versions of FLAC encoded tracks if the FLAC and MP3 files have the same filename. In Linux/BSD/Mac OSX/UNIX the find and cp commands can make this easy (recursively link/copy the entire directory with your choice of file extensions, eg .flac+.jpg and .mp3+.jpg). In Windows ROBOCOPY can do something similar instead of find. Maybe even XCOPY would work. That said, it's probably most practical to reorganize your collection unless you really want to hack SlimServer. Within my SlimServer audiodir I have - */flac:* encoded CDs using hierarchy similiar to your own - */pool:* tracks of unknown pedigree, mostly MP3 - */itunes:* AAC stuff, some unplayable using SB3 In my case, each of these is really a symlink to where the files really live (Windows can also do this using junctions, eg NTFSLink). The MP3s transcoded from FLAC are in another directory outside the SlimServer audiodir using identical directory structure to the FLAC originals. It's easy to merge FLAC and MP3 files to replicate your current layout if you must have things arranged as you do now: just copy one on top of the other, or better yet, just symlinks. No one best way to do this, but hopefully this helps. -- syburgh syburgh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14239 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41296 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
