Re: [slim] Balance
philippe_44 wrote: > I'm probably thick again but then I don't think this is the right thing > to do then. The 0..100 to 16 bits is not tabulated but interpolated > using parameters that are defined by squeezebox2.pm or its descendants > (e.g. squeezeplay.pm and boom.pm define it differently). So if I force > tabulation, I'll void what other descendants might do. Also, in your > example, 5 means only use (25-5)/25=80% of volume for Left and 100% for > Right but does not mean 20992 should be sent as gainL. Yeah, I was wrong. I realized that i was assuming 100% volume. I suggested something else afterward. philippe_44 wrote: > If I really want comply to the segmented volume curve, the balance ratio > should be applied to the dB volume (0..100) and then the get_volume and > dBToFixed applied individually (i.e. 5 means I apply 80% of the required > (0..100) volume to Left and still 100% to Right). Now, I never paid too > much attention to that domain of audio, but is a log balance the right > thing to do? I though back in the old days of analogue, linear > potentiometers were used because we want a finer sensitivity of the > balance around the center. I'm not really sure what's right, I'm not really an expert in analogue. I made the suggestion mostly so that the coding on my end would be more consistent, so I won't have to convert the balance adjusted values differently than the normal volume values. philippe_44 wrote: > Which also reminded me that SqueezeSlave is doing its own volume method > implementation... crap. Is this still in use today? You're probably OK to ignore SqueezeSlave. I highly doubt that anyone still uses it. Can you even get SqueezeSlave anymore? -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com -------- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
You should convert gainL/gainR to and integer using the table, apply the gain adjustment to that value then use it as the index in the table to find to correct fixed point value. So for lets say volume is set to 96 and balance is 5, gainL would be 52224 and gain adjustment would be (25-5)/25 = 0.80. Find 52224 in the table which will give you and index of 96. Multiply 96 by 0.80 to get 76.8. I usually just floor the value to 76. Then use 76 as the index to get value in the table which is 16640. -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
philippe_44 wrote: > No and this is what is sad and embarassing: I just coded something > stupid and happily wrote the same... as said, I'll probably stop for a > while > > > I just went for the simplest (or stupidest) but I think this does not > matter much. The span of 25 is very arbitrary anyway. Do you really > think that having the same ratio whatever the volume is will produce > such an unpleasant effect, i.e. balance will sound good at some volume > but bad at others? > > > Thx I'm not saying that the ratio matters, 25 is fine. It's the values that are being sent by the server do not increase or decrease in a linear manner. They follow the progression of that list of numbers and there are 101 values. So, for example, it you set the volume to 96, instead of sending 65536 * 0.96 = 62914, it sends 52224. So when the player receives the value, instead of just dividing the raw value by 65536 to get the gain, it looks for the closest value in the array and uses the index of the item as the gain. For you to implement it, it's very simple. Just take the gain adjustment multiply it by 100 and use the value at that index on the list. So, for example, if the balance is set to 5, you'll use your formula, (25-5)/25 = 0.8 multiply by 100 to get 80. Then just take the value at index 80 from the array, which is 20992 -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com -------- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
philippe_44 wrote: > ok, I'll wait for somebody with a transporter to confirm and will do > then I have a Transporter. Balance is working. BTW, what is ip3k? -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com -------- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
I just downloaded the latest LMS update, and the values look like they are corrected. However, the gainL/gainR values are normally based on the volume curve of the SB Boom so 0.96 gain is actually 52224 not 62914. I guess I could detect for balance changes and calculate the gain differently when that happens, but I think having it the balanced values be consistent with the normal values would be nicer. In case you need it, here's the array I use for converting the values: Code: 0, 16, 18, 22, 26, 31, 36, 43, 51, 61, 72, 85, 101, 120, 142, 168, 200, 237, 281, 333, 395, 468, 555, 658, 781, 926, 980, 1037, 1098, 1162, 1230, 1302, 1378, 1458, 1543, 1634, 1729, 1830, 1937, 2050, 2048, 2304, 2304, 2560, 2816, 2816, 3072, 3328, 3328, 3584, 3840, 4096, 4352, 4608, 4864, 5120, 5376, 5632, 6144, 6400, 6656, 7168, 7680, 7936, 8448, 8960, 9472, 9984, 10752, 11264, 12032, 12544, 13312, 14080, 14848, 15872, 16640, 17664, 18688, 19968, 20992, 22272, 23552, 24832, 26368, 27904, 29696, 31232, 33024, 35072, 37120, 39424, 41728, 44032, 46592, 49408, 52224, 55296, 58624, 61952, 65536 This was copied from the SqueezePlay code. -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
philippe_44 wrote: > No you are reading data correctly - per my previous post, it was me I didn't realize you meant you made a mistake in the code. I just thought you made a typo in the post. -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com ---- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
wt0 wrote:
> I'm not talking about what you see in the browser. I'm talking about
> what the player actually receives from server. I'm trying to add
> balance support to SB Player and noticed that when the balance is not
> zero, the gain value of the "audg" command of one of the channels is no
> longer a fixed point value between 0 and 1.0 (which is an integer value
> between 0 and 65536). Instead it changes to a fixed point value between
> 0 and 24 (integer value between 0 and 1572864)
Yes I'm sure, I'm logging the raw values that I'm getting from the
server. With volume set to 100 and a balance setting of 1, gainL is
1572864 and gainR is 65536. I even used Wireshark to sniff the network
packets just to be sure. Here's hex dump + ascii from the audg packet:
Code:
10 7b 44 68 cc 37 00 d8 61 d3 20 a2 08 00 45 00 .{Dh.7..a. ...E.
0010 00 44 a5 9c 00 00 80 06 00 00 c0 a8 14 72 c0 a8 .D...r..
0020 14 67 0d 9b e3 d8 5a fa 44 36 7d 3b 3e db 50 18 .gZ.D6};>.P.
0030 04 02 e0 3a 00 00 00 1a 61 75 64 67 00 00 0c 00 ...:audg
0040 00 00 00 80 01 ff 00 18 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 00
0050 00 00 ..
The hex value for gainL is "00 18 00 00" which is 1572864.
Am I just not interpreting the data correctly?
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Re: [slim] Balance
ralphy wrote: > The current released balance feature has been working fine with > squeezeplay for me. > > Full left is -25 and full right is +25. Browser cache perhaps? > > When you click apply does the balance change in squeezeplay? > > I have 'new MacOS Intel and Windows squeezeplay builds v8.0.1r1368 > available' > (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/squeezeplay/) with > Balance and Output Channel Mode: Mono support. I'm not talking about what you see in the browser. I'm talking about what the player actually receives from server. I'm trying to add balance support to SB Player and noticed that when the balance is not zero, the gain value of the "audg" command of one of the channels is no longer a fixed point value between 0 and 1.0 (which is an integer value between 0 and 65536). Instead it changes to a fixed point value between 0 and 24 (integer value between 0 and 1572864) -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com -------- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Balance
I think the server side implementation of balance for SqueezePlay players is broken. When I added "Balance=1" to SB Player's HELO string, the balance slider shows up in Player -> Audio. However when I adjust the slider, the gainL/gainR values SB Player gets for the channel that should be lowered changes from a 16.16 fixed point value between 0 and 1.0, to between 0 and 24. -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com ---- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114010 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
RonM wrote: > +1 > > However, it should be noted that Wayne (wto) who developed SqueezeCtrl > hasn't been responding to queries on the support thread in third party > software since July, although I believe there was an update to both > SqueezeCtrl and SBPlayer around then. > > R. Sorry, just been a little lazy with checking the forums. and BTW, it wt0 (zero) -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com ---- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
brjhaverkamp wrote: > Is there any chance that Christian releases the code for > squeezecommander in the public domain as opensource so the community can > fix issues, improve the app and basically keep it running? > Is anyone interested in pursuing this direction? I'd like to believe that he's not doing that as a courtesy to other developers that still have SB apps for sale. But of course I would be a little biased against the release :) Reality is, he's probably moved on to bigger and better things and just doesn't care about Squeeze Commander anymore. -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com ---- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
toby10 wrote: > Same symptom for me but not router related. Phone works fine (Android > 4.0) using just WiFi and Squeeze Commander. But my new Insignia tablet > (Android 6.0.1) on same WiFi shows exactly what you state on Squeeze > Commander. Says my credentials are good, connected to MySB.com (which > is all I want), but no listed players to select. > > Ideas anyone? Or is it just a random incompatibility with Squeeze > Commander and "some" newer Android versions (which is what I gather from > other posts)? *sigh* I would recommend reinstalling Squeeze Commander. My guess is that it generates a new random MAC address and UUID for itself the first time it's launched. That's what Squeeze Ctrl does. It could be that the ones generated are conflicting with other addresses registered with MySB.com You could also try going to your account on MySB.com and on the Players page, delete every entry that's not an actual player. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com ---- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
ridgerunner57 wrote: > Don't think you've missed anything. It's broken on my Nexus 7 since > Marshmallow. Still works fine on my g2 running kit Kat. Orange Squeeze > broken too. Developers don't seem to care at this point I'm not involved in the development of either app, but my guess is that the changes to the permissions system in Marshmallow is what broke the two apps. -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com ---- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
pippin wrote: > The left one is SqueezeCommander (hey, this is a SqueezeCommander thread > after all :) ), the center one is SqueezeControl. > I think OrangeSqueeze only provides own icons for default menus as of > LMS 7.8, lots of plugins missing, too. It's actually what makes it too > ugly for actual use for me :) Just to clarify, it's Squeeze Ctrl now, after I had to republish. Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com -------- wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] [ANNOUNCE] SqueezeCommander 0.9 for Android
... and on devices that don't have the hardware menu button, a menu button would have automatically shown within the app's UI (at least that's the default behavior). -- Squeezebox apps for webOS, Android and Windows Phone, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69352 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplayer Android dropouts during playback
If you can't get Squeeze Player working, there's an alternative now for 4.1+ devices called SB Player. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.angrygoat.android.sbplayerfeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5hbmdyeWdvYXQuYW5kcm9pZC5zYnBsYXllciJd *Full Disclosure*: That's my app. wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=98850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Do any Squeezeplayers actually have the horsepower to play 192/24 remote streams?
pippin wrote: EDIT: One more data point: SqueezePlay uses 3MB of buffer, not sure whether that's raw or decoded, so that's about 1.5-3s worth of buffer, not a lot. Using more in a Squeezebox player will need special consideration, it can cause trouble with some online services, transcoding and syncing so I don't think many of the software players use more. We use 8 MB in iPeng but my experience is that the larger buffer doesn't help a lot for network issues, although all the tests we've done (for remote streaming) were with 44.1/16/flac as a maximum and on a local network there are few situations where buffering actually helps at all. The status messages that the players send back to the servers actually reports info (size and fullness) for two separate buffers, one for input/network data and one for output audio. For the SB Boom, both buffers are about 3Mb each. If you capture the packets between the Boom and server you can see that the fullness of the two buffers change independently, so the two numbers do not represent the same buffer. Now I don't know exactly how SqueezePlay works, but it is logical that it would emulate a hardware player and have two buffers also. wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97244 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
excalibur;665662 Wrote: From our numbers you will never be rich anyway. We are a dying race... If never being able to get rich off of an item is enough of a reason for giving it away then probably the vast majority of all items you see in any store should be given away for free. Because of the continual development of the Squeezebox system, Squeeze Control is an app that will require continual support on my part to maintain compatibility with latest versions of SB Server. For as long as I will continue to support the app, I will sell it. When and if I do decide to abandon the platform, then I may consider open sourcing it. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
No, there's only one marketplace for webOS. Currently, the only other alternative would be to sell it directly, but I never wanted to deal all the headaches that goes along with that. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
killie99;660549 Wrote: Is there a way to quickly jump to a letter of the alphabet when scrolling through the 'artist' list like you can with an ipod? I know I can bring up the keyboard and start typing but it's a bit cumbersome and doesn't 'take' me to a particular point in the list, it only lists artists with those particular sequence of characters. For example, if I type 'pi' i get about 5 artists and I can select 'Pink Floyd'. If I then decide I want to listen to 'Primal Scream' I need to bring up the keyboard and type 'pr' rather than just being able to scroll down from where I currently are in the 'artist' list. Does that make sense? If that's how it works then fair enough, just thought I'd ask incase ther eis something I haven't set up correctly. thanks. Yes it makes sense and no there is currently no way to do that. I don't think it is actually feasible to do exactly what you want. The main reason is that the lists are loaded incrementally as needed, so searching has to be done by the server and there's no way to get the search to return the item position instead of a list of found items. The closest to what you're suggesting is probably something that iPeng for the iPhone/iPad has which I think they call a jump list. It's basically a vertical list of letters on the side of the main list. When you tap a letter, the main list jumps to the section with item names that start with that letter. I'm considering making that an option in a later update, but no guarantees. I don't really like that solution cause it makes the lists look too cluttered. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
jrgarrett;656100 Wrote: Thanks for the 1.0.7 update. TrackStat now shows up (and works properly) in the My Music menu. One cosmetic issue, the icon for TrackStat is blank. Note that this is a clean install of 7.6.1. If the icon is blank, that means that server is not sending the icon to the XL. It's a bug in the server, and there's nothing I can do about it. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
jrgarrett;654617 Wrote: I am using the official 7.6.1 with Squeeze Control XL and note that when I add the TrackStat plugin and go to the My Music menu I get Error [object Error]. Just wondering if anyone else is seeing this? This is most likely cause by the same bug in SBS 7.6.1 that another user encountered. On certain platforms the server seems to either not send data when certain menu icons are requested or send corrupted data and this causes the error you see when Squeeze Control XL tries to load the icon. I guess plugins can also cause this to occur. An update of XL with a fix for has already been submitted and is going through the review process right now. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
miab;654690 Wrote: I'm not sure it's a good idea to buy the XL for $10 if you might not be supporting it in the future. Will you be giving a coupon code or reducing price if you decide to go another route? I'll fix any bugs that might crop up and do any minor tweaks, but any major developments will depend on the future of webOS. If I do decide to abandon platform, I'll probably just pull the app from the catalog and provide existing users support for some period of time afterwards. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
danull;653504 Wrote: Automatic server discovery coming or no given current circumstances? Depends on if webOS has a future, which we should find out in the coming weeks. Of course, I might also get bored and just put it in there for the heck it :) -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
jean2;652921 Wrote: Thanks for fixing the bug I found, now it's working properly with TinySBS 7.6.1. Regards, Jean Thanks for helping me test the fix. You're the first person I've heard of who tried SqzCtrl XL with the Touch as the server. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
fphredd;652100 Wrote: Is this still in development? Thinking of picking one up for $99 if I can find one. This app would help me decide :D All major developments on Squeeze Control XL has been suspended until I have a clearer picture of the future of webOS. However, I'll still fix any bugs that may crop up. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
pski;652297 Wrote: What does 'default' look like? Screenshots may or may not be representative of the real world.. People still don't understand that Squeezebox Server is a website ! Paul What do you mean by default? This isn't an app running in a web browser. This is an actual mobile app running on a Touchpad tablet. The screenshots were taken of the app while it was running on the tablet so they are exactly what the app looks like. I didn't even change the resolution of the images. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Finally, the best Controller App arrives at iOS!
erland;627118 Wrote: Would be a lot better to just show a list of SBS instances and ask me to select which one I like to use and then get the mysqueezebox account information from the selected SBS. I don't think there's a way in the api for controllers to retrieve the mysb account info, but I haven't looked that deeply into the api in while so I could wrong. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Finally, the best Controller App arrives at iOS!
mherger;639961 Wrote: Is the Flickr app supposed to work in the Logitech iOS app ? Supposed to, yes :-/. I can confirm it's not working. -- Michael I briefly played with the Logitech app and I think Show Artwork doesn't work either. The app probably doesn't have an image browser built-in. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
For any potential buyers of the HP Touchpad, Squeeze Control XL is on its way. For more info + screenshots: http://forums.precentral.net/angrygoat/286431-squeeze-control-xl-touchpad.html -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for the HP Touchpad
bluegaspode;638762 Wrote: One cannot see the pictures, if one is not registered at the other forum. Sorry I didn't realize that. +---+ |Filename: 05.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=12032| +---+ -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88567 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
As long as the pixi has a palm profile and that profile was created while the phone was in a country which can have paid apps in the App Catalog, you should be able to buy Squeeze Control even without registering the device with a carrier. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
From what I understand about the App Catalog, purchases are linked to your Palm profile. As long as the device is using the same profile that you purchased the app with you can re-download the app without having to pay again. However, a profile can only support one device at a time, so if you replace your phone, make sure you to go to your profile management page on the web and delete to old device before trying to sign in with the new one. For a more definitive answer, you should ask HP/Palm. App developers actually have absolutely no control over the app download and purchase process of the App Catalog. We just submit the app to HP/Palm and they handle the rest. I'm pretty sure that's how it works for the App catalogs/stores of all the major phone platforms. Currently I have no plans to develop for Android. I don't own an Android phone and I don't really have the time either. Even if I do, I doubt that there is anyway for me to do a license transfer, unless HP/Palm and Google decides to allow that. Please direct further questions about Squeeze Control to the official forum: http://forums.precentral.net/angrygoat/251367-squeeze-control.html Hope this helps. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox player app available in BETA for the Palm Pre (webOS)
Squeeze Control Player is available in the BETA app catalog. It's a software Squeezebox player for the Palm Pre/Pre+. It's meant to be a companion to Squeeze Control, so there are no playback controls. Use your Squeezebox Server's web interface or Squeeze Control on a second phone (the reason for this is below). This is a very early build of this app and there are a lot of limitations. - Currently this only works with a local Squeezebox Server. - Only supports FLAC, ogg, and PCM music streams. You server should automatically convert all other formats except mp3. - Only supports playing music files. It won't play any internet streams; radio, Rhapsody, Pandora, etc. - Music will pause when the app is in the background, hence the need for controlling it from another device. This may actually be a limitation of the webOS PDK. - Cannot synchronize with other players. - May not be completely stable. While it's been pretty stable in my testing, I can't guarantee that you'll have to same experience. The newest version added greater than 16bit FLAC and PCM stream. (converts them to 16bit) Conversion to 16 bit is currently done by simple truncation. It's not the best way of doing it, but it should be ok for the audio hardware of a phone. This version should pretty much handle any format that a Squeezebox server can play expect for mp3. The server basically transcodes everything to FLAC @ 44.1khz. I've tested playing a 96/24 FLAC file and it works fine. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81976 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox player app available in BETA for the Palm Pre (webOS)
Opps. Forgot to post the link, here it is: http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.angrygoat.sqzctrlplayer -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=81976 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
Thank for your purchase. If you're using it with a Squeezebox Server, be sure to enter your MySqueezebox.com info into your server's settings for Pandora to work. For any questions and future product announcements, please visit my forum on precentral.net: http://forums.precentral.net/angrygoat/ -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
Heavy or prolonged use of the pre does seem to cause random glitches to the phone in general and not just my app. The pre I'm using is just for development (I waiting for the GSM version in the US before I get one for regular use), so it's not that heavily used, but even so it seems to randomly lock up and reboot for no reason. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
Any address that starts with 127.0 is reserved and is called a loopback address, which means that it's pointing back to the machine you're on. So setting that as the address in the app means that you're looking for a server on the phone itself. If that's the address reported in the the information screen of SqueezeBox Server, than there is something wrong with your server setup. Probably the network setup of the machine is incorrect. In any case, for future reference you should never set a machine's ip address to any 127.0.x.x addresses. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
Username and Password are only necessary if you've enabled security on your SqueezeBox Server. If you haven't, make sure you uncheck the save login check box. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
Try restarting the phone. That seems to fix random glitches. And of course, make sure wifi is on and connected. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
I'm guessing the part you don't understand are the 'plus' buttons and the down arrow buttons. The plus buttons adds the item to the playlist. The down arrows opens a drawer under the item to show other options for the item. Basically the same as pressing the plus key on a SB Controller. The 'plus' buttons with a little down arrow combines the two functions. A tap adds to the playlist. Tap and hold opens the drawer. -- wt0 wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
The down arrow only shows in the current playlist screen. Which and if the plus button shows up is determined by the menu data that I get from the server. The two versions of the plus button shows up when there's an Add action associated with the item. The combo plus/arrow button shows when the item has a More action. -- wt0 wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
Pippin, I've got a question for you. How did you get ipeng working with mysqueezebox.com? I know the site supports the same communication mechanisms (json-rpc, cometd) as a stand alone server, but what's the login procedure? I haven't really looked into it yet and it might be obvious when I do, but heck it doesn't hurt to ask, right? thanks. -- wt0 wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
Yes, I'm processing the menus and it is a pain. They really need to have some consistency in the menu data. Tapping anywhere else on a playable item plays it. -- wt0 wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
Yes, I noticed they tend to change stuff. Even from 7.4.2 to 7.5, I had to make a change to account for some minor difference. Let's hope that they're least moving towards a more consistent and logical layout. The only test I did with MySB was to just point my app to it to see if worked, it didn't. I haven't really looked at what I'm getting back from MySB. Writing the app pretty much zapped a month of my life, and I'm a little burned out with it. I'll definitely shoot you an email when I start to really look into it. -- wt0 -- SqueezeControl for webOS, http://www.angrygoatapps.com wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SqueezeBox control app for Palm webOS devices
Squeeze Control is available now in the App Catalog: http://developer.palm.com/webChannel/index.php?packageid=com.angrygoat.sqzctrl Developer homepage: http://www.angrygoatapps.com - Control your SqueezeBox players from your webOS device. - Search for music from anywhere in the app - just start typing. - Replicates almost all of the functionality of a SqueezeBox Controller, including the plugin apps. Requirements - A device using webOS version 1.4 or higher - SqueezeBox players using a SqueezeBox Server as their music source. Does NOT work with MySqueezebox.com (it might work with the SqueezeBox Touch as the server - not tested) - SqueezeBox Server version 7.4 or better. (It should work with 7.0 or higher, but you might lose some functionality and/or icons) -- wt0 wt0's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=78131 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
