Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?
Mnyb wrote: And what about a good headphone output in some model ? The workaround would be to go for the headphone amplifier they are available in most music stores and rather not inexpensive with very solid quality. AndreE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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AndreE wrote: The workaround would be to go for the headphone amplifier they are available in most music stores and rather not inexpensive with very solid quality. I have a small headphone amp :) now it's tempting to set up the spare Touch for headphones hmm . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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JJZolx wrote: What are you talking about? Did I miss an announcement, or is this you speculating about how Logitech is going to gouge customers in the future? It is just thoughts shared based on the experience how the portfolio planning happened at big companies :-) As Logitech is a public company with strong focus on shareholder value and profit basic assumption would be how this company is going to earn money and what are the revenue streams are available / possible. There is no need to go into deep marketing analysis to get understanding how Logitech earns money and what opportunities are available / left for Moos_Man in case (s)he is going to make so attractive offer to Logitech. The rest is just thoughts shared with this great community, and please see it as an attempt to have a look into the future. Logitech will be taking care about customers as long as it brings profit, and at the point when it will be turning red instant actions will be triggered whether we like it or not they are not a charity. And there is no reason to blame them for being success oriented I still love Logitech keyboards and mice and would like to have a newer and better model at the moment when mine is suddenly dead. AndreE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Sorry if this is a naive question, but would it be possible to modify SBS to get its stream using the UE Smart Radio server rather than mysb.com? If so, should this be our ask from Logitech? Mike mps's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=36351 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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mps wrote: Sorry if this is a naive question, but would it be possible to modify SBS to get its stream using the UE Smart Radio server rather than mysb.com? If so, should this be our ask from Logitech? Mike Unknown. But it could be the saving grace for SqueezeBox players going forward. Perhaps a UE emulation plugin on LMS that could share the online streams with SB hardware players? But even if doable at all, at what cost to SB features/functions? Sync? Paid services? Transcoding? Who knows. many, many questions remain. toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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moos_man wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to understand how big/active/passionate the Squeeze community really is at this point, and how much real interest there is in keeping things going, and growing, int the future. I'm not talking about keeping this on life support (as per now), but in terms of new products and restoring the commitment to quality music playback - think transporter on steroids and other cool products. I'm seriously thinking about making an offer to Logitech for the rights, so would appreciate considered feedback. Cheers, Moos Man The product range must run the whole gamut from inexpensive table radios to hifi and high end connectivity . The system synergy is the real strength of the squeezebox idea ,Even audiophiles have zones that would not require high end. For people that already have all DAC capacity they ever need I suggest a novelty a digital,out only box ,spdif,ToS,USB,hdmi small form-factor, not obscenely expensive as that is not necessary for a good enough digital transport . And the analog aficionados would want one with built in high end DAC . And what about a good headphone output in some model ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?
moos_man wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to understand how big/active/passionate the Squeeze community really is at this point, and how much real interest there is in keeping things going, and growing, int the future. I'm not talking about keeping this on life support (as per now), but in terms of new products and restoring the commitment to quality music playback - think transporter on steroids and other cool products. I'm seriously thinking about making an offer to Logitech for the rights, so would appreciate considered feedback. Cheers, Moos Man Moos Man, This is a great idea to think about. I would may be add few other questions to this in order to see the future. The community is the place where owners of already purchased devices are and might be not your future first customers. The real question is where the market is? And who are your future customers? Some years back SlimDevices had technology advantages and unique opportunity, but is it still true today? This forum is full of discussions and comparisons and as you can find out - many alternatives are available now from companies like e.g. Sonos, Philips and of course Apple. All of them have great set of alternatives and all of them are easy to use out of the box, what was a bit different for SlimDevices. Logitech is pursuing two monetization streams: devices sales and content usage based - this is a major reason why all new devices are connected to Logitech servers. Content usage based model is not new and already well developed by e.g. Apple, followed by Google, Amazon, Sony and many others (with different success rate !). Logitec has made clear decision to move to easy-to-use and no knowledge required segment this is a volume strategy most likely with low cost of the product to maximize the profit. It is what Logitech is good at with ability to keep great quality standards - typing on Logitech Keyboard and using Logitech mouse ;-) What business model and monetization are you going to follow? Is it a device sales? Would you be able to generate enough revenue to keep network infrastructure up and running? Would you go for advanced enthusiast community approach? How many competitors are there already? As the food for thoughts: e.g. companies like Denon, Onkyo and many others have Network radio in their offering and rely mainly on device sales leaving network/traffic related monetization aside receiving only small royalty (guess based on indirect information) from content providers like Spotify in case user has paid subscription. AndreE's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30476 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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AndreE wrote: Logitech is pursuing two monetization streams: devices sales and content usage based - this is a major reason why all new devices are connected to Logitech servers. Content usage based model is not new and already well developed by e.g. Apple, followed by Google, Amazon, Sony and many others (with different success rate !). What are you talking about? Did I miss an announcement, or is this you speculating about how Logitech is going to gouge customers in the future? JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?
Hey Guys, I would like to understand how big/active/passionate the Squeeze community really is at this point, and how much real interest there is in keeping things going, and growing, int the future. I'm not talking about keeping this on life support (as per now), but in terms of new products and restoring the commitment to quality music playback - think transporter on steroids and other cool products. I'm seriously thinking about making an offer to Logitech for the rights, so would appreciate considered feedback. Cheers, Moos Man moos_man's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57497 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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moos_man wrote: Hey Guys, I would like to understand how big/active/passionate the Squeeze community really is at this point, and how much real interest there is in keeping things going, and growing, int the future. I'm not talking about keeping this on life support (as per now), but in terms of new products and restoring the commitment to quality music playback - think transporter on steroids and other cool products. I'm seriously thinking about making an offer to Logitech for the rights, so would appreciate considered feedback. Cheers, Moos Man I'm not sure what sort of evidence of size/passion you're seeking. I think a perusal of these forums certainly confirms a passion for the squeezebox system for music playback. Look at my signature for the SB stuff I own. That's certainly evidence of my personal opinion on this. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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erland wrote: No reason to speculate, the future will show us what will happen, nobody knows at the moment, not even people within Logitech. There is probably more likely that Logitech will spend maintenance resources to implement API changes for premium services like Spotify, Pandora, Rhapsody than doing it for LMA. There is every reason to speculate, we have no official communication of support status from Logitech. I for one will not spend another penny on Logitech kit. Many people on this forum are in denial. It's over. As operating systems change, updates to LMS are unlikely. This was always the case, no earning from LMS and permitting iPeng and others to become cheap software players totally undermines any commercial opportunity for this product line. Logitech's apparent radio only approach is a sensible reaction to the environment that many external developers have created. So we get what we reap, the community can take over this environment, but I believe it will struggle to maintain user enthusiasm. DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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DaveWr wrote: There is every reason to speculate, we have no official communication of support status from Logitech. One reason might be that the future support of SB depends on the success of UE Radio which for obvious reasons is unknown. DaveWr wrote: As operating systems change, updates to LMS are unlikely. See above. Since both servers are pretty closely related I wouldn't entirely rule out new builds of LMS. DaveWr wrote: This was always the case, no earning from LMS and permitting iPeng and others to become cheap software players totally undermines any commercial opportunity for this product line. Logitech's apparent radio only approach is a sensible reaction to the environment that many external developers have created. Blaming the situation on external developers it quite a stretch, and for that matter the most commonly used software players was released by Slim Devices/Logitech them selves, if anything I beleive the external developers have helped hardware sales. But I do agree the UE Radio is a sensible reaction, my impression of the last years sales is that SB Radio has massively outsold the Touch, and that most of those Radios only rarely if ever connect to LMS (actual figures would be interesting if a Logitech employee happen to know). If my impressions is correct it makes perfect sense to streamline the products for the main customer group. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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alfista wrote: Blaming the situation on external developers it quite a stretch, and for that matter the most commonly used software players was released by Slim Devices/Logitech them selves, if anything I beleive the external developers have helped hardware sales. But I do agree the UE Radio is a sensible reaction, my impression of the last years sales is that SB Radio has massively outsold the Touch, and that most of those Radios only rarely if ever connect to LMS (actual figures would be interesting if a Logitech employee happen to know). If my impressions is correct it makes perfect sense to streamline the products for the main customer group. I don't blame the situation on external developers but the strategy (or lack of) from Logitech. There was no protection of Logitech value, consequently no business case. As soon as derivation of players appeared on third party software products, there was an inevitable issue for Logitech. I have no issue with these developers they did what is natural, but it was bound to have consequences. I wouldn't invest in a business that has no protected intellectual property anymore. The gate are open to all. DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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DaveWr wrote: I don't blame the situation on external developers but the strategy (or lack of) from Logitech. There was no protection of Logitech value, consequently no business case. As soon as derivation of players appeared on third party software products, there was an inevitable issue for Logitech. I have no issue with these developers they did what is natural, but it was bound to have consequences. I wouldn't invest in a business that has no protected intellectual property anymore. The gate are open to all. Logitech apparently thought that there was a business case since they forked over $20 million for the concept and the brand, what has changed since then has nothing to do with the protection of their intellectual property so I fail to see your line of reasoning. Software players were available before their purchase so no difference there, and they've never generated any direct revenue. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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There were no software players with full synchronisation ability. Squeezplay started the issues. Reverse engineered Slim products were a significantly lesser threat. DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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DaveWr wrote: There were no software players with full synchronisation ability. Squeezplay started the issues. Reverse engineered Slim products were a significantly lesser threat. Have you really tried full synchronisation with software players ? For more than 5 minutes ? With more than 2 players ? (Besides, I think Squeezeplay belongs to Logi and is well enough protected.) epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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epoch1970 wrote: Have you really tried full synchronisation with software players ? For more than 5 minutes ? With more than 2 players ? (Besides, I think Squeezeplay belongs to Logi and is well enough protected.) No I only own two software players with sync capability, but they work fine for hours. People appear to be compiling Squeezeplay for lots of devices if they manage raspberry pi well. DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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DaveWr wrote: I don't blame the situation on external developers but the strategy (or lack of) from Logitech. There was no protection of Logitech value, consequently no business case. As soon as derivation of players appeared on third party software products, there was an inevitable issue for Logitech. I have no issue with these developers they did what is natural, but it was bound to have consequences. I wouldn't invest in a business that has no protected intellectual property anymore. The gate are open to all. The third party player apps are targeting a different use case than the Squeezebox hardware, they aren't competing, Logitech doesn't have a portable offering, instead the Logitech hardware and third party apps are working in a symbiosis making the Squeezebox hardware even more attractive. The number of people who get a smart phone Squeezebox app and put it in a docking station instead of getting a real hardware Squeezebox is not significant, people use these third party players to listen to their LMS music in rooms/contexts where Logitech doesn't offer a suitable hardware. Also, even if they would compete, Logitech would get an extremely attractive docking station solution if they produced and sold a great iPhone/Android docking station to be used with these third party player apps. An iPod Touch + good docking station is definitely more expensive and more ugly than a Squeezebox Radio, so it's not even a cheap solution, unless you already have a spare iPod Touch to always have in the docking station. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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DaveWr wrote: No I only own two software players with sync capability, but they work fine for hours. I believe hit and miss might appropriately describe the current situation for syncing SW players, and I'm not sure SqueezePlay is significantly better than the others in that respect. DaveWr wrote: People appear to be compiling Squeezeplay for lots of devices if they manage raspberry pi well. Some tinkering is going on in the dimly lit dens of enthusiasts, seriously doubt that it has made a noticeable dent in the hardware sales for Logitech though. As of now I don't think there are any software players that fully emulate their hardware counterparts, especially when it comes to the increasingly popular online music services, Logitech didn't give it all away. Seriously, look at the major changes in the way people listen to music during the last 5 years, isn't that a more likely culprit behind Logitech changing direction, rather than some hobbyists (who often own quite a lot of SB HW) and a few garage companies messing with software players. alfista's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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erland wrote: An iPod Touch + good docking station is definitely more expensive and more ugly than a Squeezebox Radio, so it's not even a cheap solution, unless you already have a spare iPod Touch to always have in the docking station. Don't agree, at least the iPod system can be connected to a quality stereo system, it will also have App support for the majority if not all online music services. Squeezebox radio + Logitech online services are limited in both respects, and now in some people's mind there is a probably a commitment issue. I still have two SB3s and two Booms, albeit one is slightly unwell, but I prefer the iXX solution with iPeng. I can move it between rooms. Each to his own. Best of luck with your future plans on LMS etc. I made my hifi commitment sometime ago. Linn DS, but not cheap, and the companies future is tied to it. Dave DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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erland wrote: An iPod Touch + good docking station is definitely more expensive and more ugly than a Squeezebox Radio, so it's not even a cheap solution, unless you already have a spare iPod Touch to always have in the docking station. I agree with all you said, but this Frankly the Radio will not win a beauty contest, esp. with its microscopic low-quality display (heck, the Boom was a bit awkward looking too.) A Radio is better designed than an iThing as a player, because it has physical buttons, remote. And it can sync, so it functions better (in this respect.) But I wouldn't say it has the edge esthetically. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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DaveWr wrote: Don't agree, at least the iPod system can be connected to a quality stereo system, it will also have App support for the majority if not all online music services. Which works great unless you want a remote, because it's when you want to remote control all these apps it's starting to get complicated and Squeezebox have a gigantic advantage. Another thing is synchronized playback between multiple devices, try to accomplish that with an iPod with a non Squeezebox app... DaveWr wrote: I made my hifi commitment sometime ago. Linn DS, but not cheap, and the companies future is tied to it. Linn's future is tied to excellent audio quality and audiophile users which doesn't necessarily mean streaming, whole house audio and excellent support for premium streaming services or easy access to music content. However, if your main interest is great audio quality and everything else is second to this, I believe Linn is a very good choice, definitely a lot better than a Logitech device. Their Kinsky controller app for the iPad is definitely one of the better UPnP controller apps I've seen. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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erland wrote: Which works great unless you want a remote, because it's when you want to remote control all these apps it's starting to get complicated and Squeezebox have a gigantic advantage. Another thing is synchronized playback between multiple devices, try to accomplish that with an iPod with a non Squeezebox app... Linn's future is tied to excellent audio quality and audiophile users which doesn't necessarily mean streaming, whole house audio and excellent support for premium streaming services or easy access to music content. However, if your main interest is great audio quality and everything else is second to this, I believe Linn is a very good choice, definitely a lot better than a Logitech device. Their Kinsky controller app for the iPad is definitely one of the better UPnP controller apps I've seen. Linn do achieve whole house synchronised audio, if you can afford their devices. They also support AirPlay so you can get your streamed services from an iThing, or a Mac. The issue is UPNP and cost. However one of the users has been writing a server, which allows a great approach to flexible music library searching, Minimserver is definitely one of the better approaches to music library searching. I think it is significantly better than LMS. It allows loads of variety on custom tagging, multiple tagging etc. The writer has akenn interest in classical music, and has designed great flexibility to support appropriate structures. The cost is is still an issue for most people. Whole house audio does require different types of element, both physically and cost wise. I am looking at AirPlay on the new Apple Express units (only 44 16bit) as a stop gap. The lack of repair for Logitech stuff is my problem (over the years I spent over �1000 on their products). I have a boom that the knob doesn't work anymore. Last year an SB3 died, replaced two SB3 power supplies. One of my remaining SB3s has a display fault that's intermittent. Logitech, unlike all the rest of my hifi stuff doesn't do repairs. I obviously don't fit their business model. I hope the engineers that gave us all the good times find good career paths, they had commitment to a cause. DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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DaveWr wrote: However one of the users has been writing a server, which allows a great approach to flexible music library searching, Minimserver is definitely one of the better approaches to music library searching. I think it is significantly better than LMS. It allows loads of variety on custom tagging, multiple tagging etc. The writer has akenn interest in classical music, and has designed great flexibility to support appropriate structures. Thanks, I didn't know of minimserver, definitely sounds like something worth taking a look at. http://minimserver.com/ erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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This is a problem for me also. I use the SB3 exclusively to access Pandora, Rhapsody and Internet radio. None of these would be available if mysqueezebox.com went away. kh6idf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16848 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kh6idf wrote: This is a problem for me also. I use the SB3 exclusively to access Pandora, Rhapsody and Internet radio. None of these would be available if mysqueezebox.com went away. Because you are not alone there are no plans to shut down mysb.com. mherger's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=50 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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mherger wrote: Because you are not alone there are no plans to shut down mysb.com. Yeah, but there were no announced plans to EOL the Squeezebox line either. In fact, has there been an official announcement at all? And yet we all know that this has happened. Having no plans to shut down mysb.com is not the same thing as Logitech commits to keeping mysb.com operational until at least January 1, 2020. gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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mherger wrote: Because you are not alone there are no plans to shut down mysb.com. I think the real question is what will happen if, for example, Spotify changes their API and updates are needed on the MySB side to keep it active. Will the music services just all fade away one by one as this happens? LMA has already suffered this fate... Mark Miksis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=529 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?
gharris999 wrote: Yeah, but there were no announced plans to EOL the Squeezebox line either. In fact, has there been an official announcement at all? And yet we all know that this has happened. This is the most official I've found: http://forums.logitech.com/t5/Squeezebox-Players/Logitech-UE-Smart-Radio/td-p/884530 Doesn't really say much except for that they plan to continue supporting Squeezeboxes and continue making it provide you access to a rich world of music. If you read between the lines one interpretation which matches what mherger has said is that they don't have any plans to shutdown mysqueezebox.com in the near future. My personal interpretation is that there isn't any need to worry for the next year or two while significant amount of devices are still under warranty period. I don't think it's likely that mysqueezebox.com will be running 2020 and still be compatible with the firmware in a Squeezebox Classic, but that's just my very personal guess. Regarding Squeezebox, there wasn't any official announcement before the shutdown, but honestly people have been talking about Logitech shutting down Squeezebox for the last 1-2 years on this forum, so even if it came as a surprise I think it's something we have all feared for quite some time. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?
Mark Miksis wrote: I think the real question is what will happen if, for example, Spotify changes their API and updates are needed on the MySB side to keep it active. Will the music services just all fade away one by one as this happens? LMA has already suffered this fate... No reason to speculate, the future will show us what will happen, nobody knows at the moment, not even people within Logitech. There is probably more likely that Logitech will spend maintenance resources to implement API changes for premium services like Spotify, Pandora, Rhapsody than doing it for LMA. erland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3124 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Paid music services over Squeezebox players in the future- is this gonna discontinue?
I am trying to figure out what the Logitech is planning to do with all of us who are using Squeezeboxes and are paying for services like Spotify, MOG, premium Pandora, Rhapsody etc. Logic would suggest that Logitech was/is receiving some profits from these companies for allowing them to stream music over SB. Such users would have to cancel accounts being abandoned by Logi support. That means lost money for Logitech and this music services. Does anyone know if these services will stay with us even Logitech support will be gone? If this is gonna happen I would rather invest in good quality network enabled AV receiver that has similar functionality to SB, and will let me play paid services. I believe these guys from Logitech lost their minds. ARTMU's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=57136 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96371 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
