Re: [slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-29 Thread Michael Herger

I use my Dell Axim PDA. I use the Java EWE tool that someone has written
to control it rather than the web browser interface. It's much more
responsive.


http://www.herger.net/SlimRemote :-)


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

If you don't mind something larger, you could always check out a tablet
PC.  You can usually find old Fujitsu Stylistic touchpads with a
pentium III 400 MHz for under $200 on ebay.


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread orfordi

I use my Dell Axim PDA. I use the Java EWE tool that someone has written
to control it rather than the web browser interface. It's much more
responsive.


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread GoCubs

Hopefully the 770 will be quicker once the new 2006 OS update is
released...

-Greg


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread bklaas

NWP Wrote: 
 If you don't mind something larger, you could always check out a tablet
 PC.  You can usually find old Fujitsu Stylistic touchpads with a
 pentium III 400 MHz for under $200 on ebay.  Put Firefox or Opera on it
 though because I hear a lot of the AJAX stuff in the 770 doesn't work
 well in IE.

Whoa, that's a heck of a thought. I had no idea you could pick up a
touchscreen that cheap. Do you have one? Anyone have one? Anyone used
it for controlling slimserver? If it's a great slim remote I would
mostly care less if it did anything else well...

I still have a dream of having a dedicated slim kiosk that would sit
next to the squeezebox and could run a slick UI (my allegiance is,
unsurprisingly, to the Nokia770). The 770 itself is not a good option
for that role (it's a handheld, not something to view from across the
room).

cheers,
#!/ben


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

bklaas Wrote: 
 Whoa, that's a heck of a thought. I had no idea you could pick up a
 touchscreen that cheap. Do you have one? Anyone have one? Anyone used
 it for controlling slimserver? If it's a great slim remote I would
 mostly care less if it did anything else well...
 
 I still have a dream of having a dedicated slim kiosk that would sit
 next to the squeezebox and could run a slick UI (my allegiance is,
 unsurprisingly, to the Nokia770). The 770 itself is not a good option
 for that role (it's a handheld, not something to view from across the
 room).
 
 cheers,
 #!/ben

My friend has two of them.  They work well, but they aren't hand helds.
They are good for the bartop though.  One of the problems with buying a
used unit like this is that you can't really expect long battery life. 
He leaves them plugged in when using them.

I understand your allegiance to the 770, but if they aren't hooking you
up with some free stuff by now after you've indirectly sold so many
units for them (I know my brother bought one just to use as a
squeezebox controller because of your skin), it may be time to rethink
that allegiance and rename your skin.  How about the Klassic Handheld
Skin?


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

If you are looking for something even cheaper, here's a really good
thread on the Jornada that can supposedly be bought off ebay for
$120-140ish and run linux:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=threadid=1811688

I'm not sure how it would do with the nokia 700 skin because of the
AJAX calls, but if you want a very cheap handheld I recommend reading
the thread - there's a lot of good info in there.


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread bklaas

Sorry, I mistyped. I meant I had allegiance to my Nokia770 skin, not to
the 770 itself (I edited it after I posted the comment). I'm impressed
with the effort and the concept of the 770, but it's a far from perfect
device.

I have considered that Nokia770 isn't probably the best name for the
skin since it works so well on standard PCs (and apparently even works
on a PSP). The downside of renaming it would be that I wouldn't have
such a good excuse not to support IE. You have no idea how much more
fun it is to write a web interface when not having to deal with the
lousy quirks of Internet Exploder.

Yeah, I'm thinking bartop for the stylistic. It'd always be plugged
in and dedicated to controlling the squeezebox (I'm thinking firefox in
full-screen mode). With those tablets that cheap, it's going to be hard
to resist not getting one at some point. How did you feel about screen
clarity/resolution? Also, I'm assuming I could stick an 802.11g PCMCIA
card in one?

Ah, gadgets...
#!/ben


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread bklaas

One more important question about those stylistic pads: do they make
noise? I'm assuming they have a fan (and a HD), but in your experience
were they quiet?

cheers,
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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread NWP

bklaas Wrote: 
 
 Yeah, I'm thinking bartop for the stylistic. It'd always be plugged
 in and dedicated to controlling the squeezebox (I'm thinking firefox in
 full-screen mode). With those tablets that cheap, it's going to be hard
 to resist not getting one at some point. How did you feel about screen
 clarity/resolution? Also, I'm assuming I could stick an 802.11g PCMCIA
 card in one?
 
 Ah, gadgets...
 #!/ben

Clarity/Resolution were fine, like a normal laptop of that generation. 
It runs at 800x600.  Yeah, it doesn't have built in wireless, so you
have to stick in a PCMCIA card.

One thing that annoys me about it is the lack of a keyboard port. 
Supposedly there is a docking station that you can hook a keyboard
into, but my friend never has that out and just uses an on-screen
keyboard.  Then again, if you are just going to use it to control
music, you don't really need a keyboard.

btw: I designed the browseamp skin I mentioned to you the other day
specifically for the Stylistic.  In fact, it's been tough to get him to
switch to slimserver because he's already gotten too comfortable
controlling his music with that.

bklaas Wrote: 
 One more important question about those stylistic pads: do they make
 noise? I'm assuming they have a fan (and a HD), but in your experience
 were they quiet?
 
 cheers,
 #!/ben

Yeah, I've never noticed any noise.  Then again, it's outside and we do
usually have the TV or music on.


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-25 Thread bklaas

Good stuff...800x600 would look fantastic with the Nokia770 skin (the
770 is 800 pixels wide as well, and my UI design decisions are all
based on an 800 pixel wide screen).

This will be an interesting thing to check out...luckily I'm in no
hurry so I can wait a few months and see if these ever drop into the
impulse buy range. Sub-$200 is pretty darn close though...

#!/ben


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[slim] Re: Anything to use to control the player, other than Nokia 770?

2006-05-24 Thread azinck3

lovemov Wrote: 
 I think Nokia 770 is very nice, but all reviews said it's slow. I like
 the size, display, etc. Is there any other choices?

I don't have a 770, but all the AJAX work that Ben Klaas (770 skin
developer) has put in should make using it pretty tolerable with
minimal page reloads.  The PSP would provide a pretty similar
experience to the 770, I imagine.

Other than that, just about anything with a web browser should work. 
Unfortunately, most PDAs are going to be pretty slow.  I heard real
good things about the responsiveness of TelCanto for PDAs a while back
but don't know about the status of its support for the latest versions
of Slimserver.  You might also check out Michael Herger's new-ish
slimremote for PDAs.


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