[slim] Re: Manual rescan only finds first song.

2006-04-13 Thread imahawki

1) How long would you guess it would take to scan a ~1200 song library?

2) How does that explain the browsing directly the the song file which
both SS and the ROKU SEE, that it still will only play the first song?

BTW, I'm going to do some more testing because I've had some very
random file permission issues with this Netgear storage device.  When I
first got it, I couldn't save files from the internet directly to that
drive because of permission issues.  That got fixed but the device is a
little flaky so I'm going to rule that out before I continue.


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[slim] Re: Manual rescan only finds first song.

2006-04-12 Thread imahawki

OK, I just noticed something.  I have rescan music library set to off in
the web interface.  I had set it to 1am with the ROKU but apparently its
not actually turned on so I have no clue why it finds songs over night
on its own.


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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-13 Thread dropbear

just to clarify what addersses are being asked for:
every device that sit on your netowrk must have a unique IP address. 
So, the SB3 will have it's own IP address and your PC where you are
running Slimserver will have a different IP address.

DHCP is a method of automatically giving a network device a unique IP
address when it first connects to the network (either via ethernet wire
or wirelessly).  DHCP is usually provided in a home network by your
router.  

Now, you can also provide the IP address yourself to each device, so
that it doesn't ask the DHCP server (your router) for an addres every
time it connects to the network.  This is called a static IP addresses
as DHCP can (not very often) give a different IP address to your SB3
and PC.

Anyway, the upshot of all this is that you will have two IP addresses
in your head - one for the SB3 and one for your PC running SLimserver.

The next question is does the IP address that the SB3 displays begin
with the same set of numbers as the IP address you found on your server
(using ipconfig)?  The IP address will usually begin 192.168.x.x.  The
PC and the SB3 must have the same three numbers  and the last number
must be different.  So, your PC may have an IP address of 192.168.1.2
and you SB3 should then have an IP address like 192.168.1.4.

If the SB3 has an IP address of 169.254.x.x, then the SB3 has not found
the DHCP server and has given itself an IP address.  Because the default
IP address is different to the IP address of your PC, the two devices
will never recognise that they are on the same network, and therfor
will not be able to talk to each other.

On your firewall the three ports that must be open are :
* Port number: 3483 (TCP) - Name: SlimServer Control
* Port number: 3483 (UDP) - Name: SlimDiscovery
* Port Number: 9000 (TCP) - Name: SlimServer Web 

So, after all that, please check what actual IP adresses are being used
by the SB3 and your PC, and ensure that the PC's firewall has these 3
ports open.

Let us know how you are going and we'll do our best to get yuo up and
running.

Pete


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Re: [slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-13 Thread dean blackketter


On Jan 12, 2006, at 10:28 PM, Bruce S. wrote:


4) It then asks me 'Select a music source (1 of 3). When it does  
so, it

displays as the first choice the IP address of my machine that I
determined by 'ipconfig' and then typed in manually one of the times
earlier when I went through this step. If I select this choice (1 of
3)
At this point, the Squeezebox _should_ automatically find your server  
and display its name to choose, as long as they are on the same local  
network.  You _shouldn't_ have to enter the IP address of your  
server.  So, for whatever reason, your server isn't able to  
communicate with the Squeezebox.


Most of the time this has to do with firewall configuration issues.   
The built-in Windows firewall is set up automatically by our  
installer, but if you have another third party firewall installed it  
may need to be configured manually.


If you believe that you've disabled your firewall and it still  
doesn't appear automatically, you should probably contact  
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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-13 Thread Bruce S .

Is phone support a viable option? I called it twice (this morning during
business hours) and no-one is answering.


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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-13 Thread Daniel Cohen

On 13/1/06 at 08:28 -0800, Bruce S. wrote

Is phone support a viable option? I called it twice (this morning during
business hours) and no-one is answering.



I've never tried, but I believe it usually works. The Mac expo may 
have pulled most of the support people away from supporting.


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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-13 Thread Bruce S .

Phone support (Kevin) got me through the keying in of the encryption
password via the remote correctly. One must right arrow through any
numbers that are 2 or 3 so as to confirm to the software that you are
not typing in a hexadecimal character (ABCDEF). Once that was done
correctly, the connection was made.

Thanks to everyone who tried to help me get this up and running!


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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce S .

Do you mean by that 'did I download and install Slimserver on my
computer'? If that is what you meant by your question, then the answer
is yes. I have been using it for a month and listening via
Softsqueeze.

My problems seems to be related to what the remote can and cannot do.
Right now, it only allows me to scroll through 1) Setup networking, 2)
View current settings 3) Connect with SqueezeNetwork and 4) connect
with 0.0.0.0. That happens even after I cycle power. The signal
strength is good so I have to assume I successfully connected.


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Re: [slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Jack Coates


 Do you mean by that 'did I download and install Slimserver on my
 computer'? If that is what you meant by your question, then the answer
 is yes. I have been using it for a month and listening via
 Softsqueeze.

 My problems seems to be related to what the remote can and cannot do.
 Right now, it only allows me to scroll through 1) Setup networking, 2)
 View current settings 3) Connect with SqueezeNetwork and 4) connect
 with 0.0.0.0. That happens even after I cycle power. The signal
 strength is good so I have to assume I successfully connected.


I think you're not getting an IP address from your wireless router. Is it
supposed to hand them out? Have you tried setting a static address?

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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce S .

According to the documentation on the actual Slimserver software
'Getting Started' page, I am supposed to see this welcome screen when I
start up the SB3:


Would you like to set up the player?   
 No, proceed with startup

I don't get that screen and I am forced to deal with Network issues,
which I have already done.

None of the screens that I do see look like what the 'Getting Started'
page says I should either.

Is there any way from Slimserver to tell whether a connection has been
made with the SB3.


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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread radish

If you haven't got the regular menu then you're not connected to the
slimserver. The signal strength is displayed regardless of whether
you're connected to anything.

I assume you went through the setup networking steps - at the end of
that you should get a Connecting to Slimserver... message and then
the main menu. If you didn't get that far please describe what you did
do and how far it got.


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Re: [slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Jack Coates


 According to the documentation on the actual Slimserver software
 'Getting Started' page, I am supposed to see this welcome screen when I
 start up the SB3:


 Would you like to set up the player?
 No, proceed with startup


That's what I see on my SB2 which is on the same LAN as the Slimserver,
because it gets an address from DHCP and discovers the server. My SB3 on
another LAN needs more help.

If you're not seeing what the easy-startup describes, it's probably
because your SB3 not getting an address or not discovering the server. In
other words you're using a network architecture that doesn't match the
easy-startup assumptions.

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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce S .

I now believe you are right. I type ipconfig in the cmd window and
discovered my slimserver ip address. I then correctly entered it after
going through the connection sequence and it failed to connect at that
point. I checked firewall exceptions and they are already checked,
meaning slimserver ports are OK.


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Re: [slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Jack Coates


 I now believe you are right. I type ipconfig in the cmd window and
 discovered my slimserver ip address. I then correctly entered it after
 going through the connection sequence and it failed to connect at that
 point. I checked firewall exceptions and they are already checked,
 meaning slimserver ports are OK.


If you can get to Network Setup  Address, or Settings  Information 
Player Information  Player IP Address, did the Squeezebox get an address?
Can the Slimserver machine ping it?

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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce S .

I think I have done everything properly. Except that the automatic DCHP
bit has me confused. I let it do its automatic thing and after that I
would have thought it would finish but it continues by asking me for my
Slimserver IP address, which I assume is the IP address of my machine.
Why, if it is automatic, does it ask me to type in Slimserver's IP
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Re: [slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Jack Coates


 I think I have done everything properly. Except that the automatic DCHP
 bit has me confused. I let it do its automatic thing and after that I
 would have thought it would finish but it continues by asking me for my
 Slimserver IP address, which I assume is the IP address of my machine.
 Why, if it is automatic, does it ask me to type in Slimserver's IP
 address??


because the automatic discovery failed. Okay, here's the process:

1) Squeezebox boots up and says hi
2) You press the button, it requests an address from your router
3) Your router gives it one -- first potential problem. Did it give an
address? Is the address right?
4) Squeezebox searches the network for a Slimserver -- second potential
problem. Is the Slimserver PC on the same network? Is Slimserver running?
Is the firewall open?
5) It connects, it updates its firmware and is good to go.

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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce S .

Are those steps you gave steps I can make using the remote on the SB3 or
what? I have never seen those options go by in the time I have been
scrolling through SB3 menus.

I don't know how to make the Slimserver machine ping the SB3 since I
don't know the SB3 IP address. How do I get it? I suspect the answer
would be that I can't ping it since Slimserver software claims 'Your
Player was not found.'

Thanks for everybody's help. I have been waiting for this device to
show up for 7 weeks and now that it is here I am majorly weary of
stressing my way through this difficult setup.


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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce S .

After the step where it automatically gets an IP address (DHCP) it
succeeds and displays the IP address. Then it goes to the next screen
where it asks me to select a music source. What it then displays is the
correct IP address that I typed in earlier. If I push the right arrow,
meaning I like that choice, it tries to connect and it then fails. 

My other two choices at that juncture are to enter manually a
Slimserver IP address (which I already did once) and the other choice
is to go for the SqueezeNetwork, which I don't want to do.


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Re: [slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Jack Coates


 After the step where it automatically gets an IP address (DHCP) it
 succeeds and displays the IP address. Then it goes to the next screen
 where it asks me to select a music source. What it then displays is the
 correct IP address that I typed in earlier. If I push the right arrow,
 meaning I like that choice, it tries to connect and it then fails.

 My other two choices at that juncture are to enter manually a
 Slimserver IP address (which I already did once) and the other choice
 is to go for the SqueezeNetwork, which I don't want to do.



okay, so it sounds like we've got addresses. Next step -- on the
slimserver PC, verify that the Slimserver is running and that the firewall
isn't blocking it. Windows Firewall exceptions don't always take effect on
the first try, so try temporarily disabling it. Also make sure you don't
have other firewalls helping out.

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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce S .

OK.



1) Squeezebox boots up and says hi 
-- I'll give you that one even though it doesn't say Hi.
2) You press the button, it requests an address from your router
No. I requests an encryption key/router password from me. After I
type it in, it goes off (connecting to wireless network) and comes back
with the Automatic DHCP bit.
3) Your router gives it one -- first potential problem. Did it give an
address? Is the address right? 
It finds an address. How could it find a bogus one? And is it
supposed to be finding the IP address that 'ipconfig' tells me? If it
is, it is not finding the right one. I tried skipping the automatic
DHCP bit and then was asked to type in a bunch of IP address like
things. I got stumped when it asked me for the DNS server address. I
have no idea what a DNS server address is or what its values are.
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4) Squeezebox searches the network for a Slimserver -- second
potential
problem. Is the Slimserver PC on the same network? Is Slimserver
running?
Is the firewall open?
I believe the answer to all three of those questions is yes.

5) It connects, it updates its firmware and is good to go.


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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce S .

I have tried the manually set the IP address steps. It asks me what the
IP address of the Player is. Why does it ask me what its own IP address
is? I would have thought it knows that itself.Is it allowing me to
assign one for the player willy-nilly? 

If so, why?


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Re: [slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Jack Coates


 I have tried the manually set the IP address steps. It asks me what the
 IP address of the Player is. Why does it ask me what its own IP address
 is? I would have thought it knows that itself.Is it allowing me to
 assign one for the player willy-nilly?

 If so, why?


Because some people don't use DHCP in their networks. From what you've
posted, it seems like you've got DHCP working though.

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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce S .

Thanks for your help Mr. StinkingPig, but I am afraid even though I have
been in software for 22 years, these questions aren't so easy.

So
1) verify that the Slimserver is running 
I can only assume that since I can see it up that it is running.
2) and that the firewall isn't blocking it.  
I don't know how to go about doing that.

3) Windows Firewall exceptions don't always take effect on
the first try, so try temporarily disabling it. 
I don't get that one since there is nothing to 'take effect'. I
think those firewall exception settings have been set that way since
the moment I installed slimserver. In any case, I didn't set those
firewall exceptions. So I don't know what you mean by 'temporarily
disabling it'.

4)Also make sure you don't have other firewalls helping out.
Don't know how to do that either.

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[slim] Re: Manual

2006-01-12 Thread Bruce S .

Are these not the basic steps?

1) Some kind of general connection is made to the wireless router once
I enter its encryption/password key. This seems happy.

2) Since I select Obtain IP address automatically (DHCP) it goes and
does something and comes back.

3) It displays the found IP address for a few seconds.

4) It then asks me 'Select a music source (1 of 3). When it does so, it
displays as the first choice the IP address of my machine that I
determined by 'ipconfig' and then typed in manually one of the times
earlier when I went through this step. If I select this choice (1 of
3)

5) It then displays 'Connecting to Slimserver' which after a few
seconds fails. This is now being done with my firewall temporarily
disabled. (Not that it needed to be since when I went to the Windows
Security setup I found the 3 requisite 3483 ports already excepted when
I got there).

So it seems there are 2 unique IP addresses involved; one gotten by the
'automatic DHCP' bit and one that it asked me for and now continues to
use unless I make a different choice on step 4 above. If I do that
option I will just end up typing in the same IP address all over again.


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