Re: [slim] Rebuffering problems AFTER a Win 10 update
Given that this ppears to be a recurring issue, I thought I would just note how I solved it (for the moment, of course - nothing is absolutely for ever with networking or any software, actually!) The issue started after I had an update for Win10, after a considerable period during which I had two Touchs, plus sometimes a Duet and of course Squeezelite-X running quite perfectly in all respects, so far as I could tell. Having read my way through tons of threads, and having received specific advice from Apesbrain, I also found this from sgmlaw on another thread .. - 'One of the best things you can do in any server-based environment is assign a fixed local IP address to the server machine itself. This will make the clients' job much easier going forward, especially those that NV cache networking settings through reboots and updates. Everything they need is always at the same local address, every time, without fail. LMS is no different in this regard. Our SB clients can always locate the server, with the occasional exception of our Receiver, which occasionally balks at a final connection without intervention from the Controller. While we use DHCP for clients that are constantly logging on and off, all major static network resources (always-on elements such as servers, NAS and other data hubs, printers and switches, etc,) get static addresses. You will have a much more trouble-free network environment if the major pieces are always in the same place. Place these static resources out of the assigned DHCP range, and even the most poorly designed DHCP server can handle it. You will rarely need 'finder' apps to hunt down moving resources again. After decades of networking, this is the best way to do it. ' I already had the server machine assigned a reserved IP address, so I just added reserved addresses for the Touchs (and the printer too) & also updated LMS to the latest overnight build - (7.9.2 - 1545144292 ), noting that there where some possibly siginificant performance efficiency enhancements in 7.9.2 over 7.9.1. One of my Touchs was also extremely closely positioned next to a large soundbar underneath the TV, so that may also have affected the system. Fingers crossed, heavy duty FLACS are now playing everywhere without any rebuffering at all!! Thank you to all the helpers on this forum - your expertise & common sense are absolutely invaluable! Andrew sherington's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109933 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problems AFTER a Win 10 update
Will be trying all that, so many thanks for the list! sherington's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109933 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problems AFTER a Win 10 update
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Re: [slim] Rebuffering problems AFTER a Win 10 update
[image: https://i.imgur.com/OHS9qTY.png] Sorry about the image, but vBulletin Android has a nasty habit of deleting posts if you try to edit. Only way I could get it back. The edit I was trying to make was to reinstall LMS "as administrator". That should reset port settings. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109933 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problems AFTER a Win 10 update
Frustrating. Some things I'd try: - Unsynchronize all players and see if better with just one playing - Turn off everything; restart in order starting as far upstream as possible, e.g. ONT/gateway or cable modem. Let each device fully start before moving on. Touches should be last - Re-read the Orbi manual and be sure it's configured properly, i.e. if using it with a gateway, the gateway wireless should be disabled and the Orbi set as "access point" - Change your wireless channel: 1, 6, or 11 - Update to current LMS nightly build - Run System Restore to reset your server to before the recent update. Not sure what a Windows Update would have done to cause this issue. More likely it is something about the Orbi interaction with your network that has now decided to act up. Does your server have a reserved IP address? Always a good idea. Are SqueezeliteX settings (output device and server IP) still good? Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109933 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rebuffering problems AFTER a Win 10 update
Has anyone seen this happening?? I have two Touchs synchronized with Squeezelite-X and sometimes Squeezeplay (using USB output to a Modi DAC, thence to an amp etc) .. the Touch's have always worked perfectly on wi-fi through my Orbi + one satellite, so long as I ensure that both Touchs are connected via the Satellite. I also sometimes run a Duet too Much of my library (>50k tracks) are FLAC but absolutely none are high-res at all. All FLACS I rerip to 16/44 through sBpoweramp regardless of what they come as .. but every single FLAC file now rebuffers constantly. Album art is normally set to 1000x1000 in size, always quite low res JPG. LMS Version is: 7.9.1 - 1522157629 & both Touchs firmware are up to date, so far as I know. I have run this set up for ages & ages & have not had any issues at all, so long as the wi-fi connected players are not connected through the base router itself, but through the Satellite. Congestion at the main router can be an issue with the Orbi. Nothing has changed at all in the system apart from the Win 10 update - and it was just a series of 'Quality Updates' - see the image attached. Does anyone have any idea where I can look to sort this out?? Networking always confuses the hell out of me, but I haven't been a techie for many, many years! I thought the LMS server log might be useful but can find nothing at all about wireless conections etc in there .. +---+ |Filename: Win Updates.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26345| +---+ sherington's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109933 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problems
callesoroe wrote: > Is it Hi-rez that worked before or is it new ones that you purchaced ??? > I have had an issue with some hi-rez from HD-tracks. They were set as > MAX FLAC compression. Don't remember wheather this is > 1 or 9 . But I did a recompression with setting 5 which is my standard. > This solved the problem. 8 is Max and 1 is minimum . Note this only aply to the transporter . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problems
razorboi wrote: > Just recently I started having rebuffering problems when playing hi rez > audio on my transporter. I have never experienced this before. Any > suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks in advance. Is it Hi-rez that worked before or is it new ones that you purchaced ??? I have had an issue with some hi-rez from HD-tracks. They were set as MAX FLAC compression. Don't remember wheather this is 1 or 9 . But I did a recompression with setting 5 which is my standard. This solved the problem. Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: Transporter, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. Bedroom: Receiver+UE boombox, Kids: Receiver+Active speakers, WIMP-HIFI flac streaming. http://www.last.fm/user/callesoroe callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problems
razorboi wrote: > Just recently I started having rebuffering problems when playing hi rez > audio on my transporter. I have never experienced this before. Any > suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks in advance. Is this on wifi ? Then I suggest the usual fault racing there . Or just use Ethernet instead . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problems
Likely a network or host system issue. Tried rebooting LMS host machine and router? Which LMS version and OS? Host computer and Transporter are WiFi or wired? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rebuffering problems
Just recently I started having rebuffering problems when playing hi rez audio on my transporter. I have never experienced this before. Any suggestions on how to fix this? Thanks in advance. razorboi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104132 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] rebuffering problem
get.amped wrote: > Your SB Touch only does wireless-G anyway. You will likely not see any > improvement with a dual band router/access point unless you connect your > SBT to a 5GHz access point acting as a wireless bridge to another 5GHz > access point connected to your router. Might work but starts to become > an expensive (and complicated) way to replace a 100mb wired ethernet > cable. Yes, I also realized that the 5GHz idea was nonsense, since none of the Squeezeboxes supports that. Ethernet over powerline could be option. Thanks for bringing that up, garym. What I did to day, as a start, was move the SB Touch a couple of metres so that I could connect it to the router via (real) Ethernet, at least temporarily. Turns out that the rebuffering issue is gone. Probably because it SB Touch is now closer to the Router (i.e. Wifi access point). But it could also be that the speakers chose a better frequency, for some reason (perhaps because the Xeo transmitter is now also closer to the access point?). For anybody experiencing more serious issues with this kind of setup, I'd like to point you to 'this addendum to the Xeo manual' (http://www.dynaudio.com/int/xeo/XEO_OwnersManualA.html). It explains how you can set your speakers to use a fixed frequency. Unfortunately, Dynaudio does not tell us exactly what frequencies the speakers are capable of using and how to set them. So if anyone figured that one out, please post. get.amped wrote: > > Edit: on the other hand you can afford those speakers so the cost of the > WAPs is probably just noise... I have one unused WAP anyway but it's either 2.4 -or- 5 GHz, but before I buy another WAP I guess those Powerline adapters are the better option, if I ever need them. No, I would never buy those speakers at their recommended selling price and not even at the current sale price. I was lucky to get them used for less than half of their original selling price. garym wrote: > Also note that using the 40Mhz bandwidth can sometimes create *more* > problems. More cross channel interference, etc. If we and all our close > neighbors switch to 40Mhh bandwidth, an already bad problem (for those > with close neighbors...apartment buildings, etc.) will get much worse. Good point. I just followed the advice provided 'here' (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405996,00.asp). I wonder, though, if setting your router to 40 MHz alone already creates more interference or whether you actually need to fully use it, which is probably only the case at certain critical moments. But since my rebuffering issue seems solved, I'll switch it back, since there are at least 20 wifis in my area. *Server*: LMS 7.7.3 on a ReadyNAS Ultra 2 *Players*: Radio, Touch, Duet (Receiver & Controller), Boom, Squeezeplayer on iPad 2 *Remote control apps*: iPeng (iOS), SqueezePad (iOS), Squeezecontroller (Android) *Important plugins*: Trackstat, Spicefly Sugarcube, Lazy Search Music, Switch Player, SmartMix, Custom Browse chaug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47641 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] rebuffering problem
chaug wrote: > In my case I've quite clearly identified wifi interference as the source > of the trouble. More specifically, its my new Xeo wireless speakers that > are causing the trouble. Can clearly see the dip in network quality when > running a network test at 1000kbps (Settings -> Advanced -> Networking) > when turning the speakers on and off. Great! Now I've great sounding > speakers and no more speaker cables all over the place, and but now I > have to solve the interference problem. I already tried switching the > frequency that the speakers use as well as that of the wifi. I also > increased the wifi's bandwith from 20 Mhz to 40 Mhz but all to no avail. > So I guess the only way to avoid the interferences is to either connect > the SB Touch with an ethernet cable or move my wifi to the 5 GHz band > (the speakers are on 2.4 GHz) by installing a dual band access point > (since my router doesn't do 5 GHz). As if I had nothing else to do... Your SB Touch only does wireless-G anyway. You will likely not see any improvement with a dual band router/access point unless you connect your SBT to a 5GHz access point acting as a wireless bridge to another 5GHz access point connected to your router. Might work but starts to become an expensive (and complicated) way to replace a 100mb wired ethernet cable. Win7Pro(x64)[3.3Ghz i5, 8GB RAM, 120GB SSD system, 15TB storage], LMS 7.9.0 -> Logitech Squeezebox Classic V.3 -> Cambridge Audio DacMagic -> NAD C160 -> 2 x NAD C272 -> Quad 22L2 get.amped's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10022 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] rebuffering problem
chaug wrote: > In my case I've quite clearly identified wifi interference as the source > of the trouble. More specifically, its my new Xeo wireless speakers that > are causing the trouble. Can clearly see the dip in network quality when > running a network test at 1000kbps (Settings -> Advanced -> Networking) > when turning the speakers on and off. Great! Now I've great sounding > speakers and no more speaker cables all over the place, and but now I > have to solve the interference problem. I already tried switching the > frequency that the speakers use as well as that of the wifi. I also > increased the wifi's bandwith from 20 Mhz to 40 Mhz but all to no avail. > So I guess the only way to avoid the interferences is to either connect > the SB Touch with an ethernet cable or move my wifi to the 5 GHz band > (the speakers are on 2.4 GHz) by installing a dual band access point > (since my router doesn't do 5 GHz). As if I had nothing else to do... you might try "ethernet over powerline" adapters for connecting the squeezebox back to your router. That has worked for me and many others. Then the wireless speakers won't interfere. Also note that using the 40Mhz bandwidth can sometimes create *more* problems. More cross channel interference, etc. If we and all our close neighbors switch to 40Mhh bandwidth, an already bad problem (for those with close neighbors...apartment buildings, etc.) will get much worse. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > Squeezelite *Spares:* several Touch, Radio, SB3 *Controllers:* iPhone4S & iPad2 (iPeng7 & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] rebuffering problem
In my case I've quite clearly identified wifi interference as the source of the trouble. More specifically, its my new Xeo wireless speakers that are causing the trouble. Can clearly see the dip in network quality when running a network test at 1000kbps (Settings -> Advanced -> Networking) when turning the speakers on and off. Great! Now I've great sounding speakers and no more speaker cables all over the place, and but now I have to solve the interference problem. I already tried switching the frequency that the speakers use as well as that of the wifi. I also increased the wifi's bandwith from 20 Mhz to 40 Mhz but all to no avail. So I guess the only way to avoid the interferences is to either connect the SB Touch with an ethernet cable or move my wifi to the 5 GHz band (the speakers are on 2.4 GHz) by installing a dual band access point (since my router doesn't do 5 GHz). As if I had nothing else to do... *Server*: LMS 7.7.3 on a ReadyNAS Ultra 2 *Players*: Radio, Touch, Duet (Receiver & Controller), Boom, Squeezeplayer on iPad 2 *Remote control apps*: iPeng (iOS), SqueezePad (iOS), Squeezecontroller (Android) *Important plugins*: Trackstat, Spicefly Sugarcube, Lazy Search Music, Switch Player, SmartMix, Custom Browse chaug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47641 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] rebuffering problem
kesey wrote: > Try doing a complete "Clear Library and Rescan Everything". It's worth > doing every so often when re-buffering starts occurring. After the time > when the clocks change you can often get a bit of rebuffering activity > with LMS, so do the re-scan and see if things improve. yes, on *windows* machines after a change to or from daylight savings time one needs to do a clear and rescan (or at least they used tomaybe newer versions of 7.8 or 7.9 resolve this). *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > Squeezelite *Spares:* several Touch, Radio, SB3 *Controllers:* iPhone4S & iPad2 (iPeng7 & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] rebuffering problem
chaug wrote: > I'm also starting to experience rebuffering issues (for the first time > in years) so I'd be interested to hear whether a rescan solved it. My > last full rescan is not that long ago (couple of weeks) so I doubt that > that will change things. But I'll try anyway. > > I'd also like to understand how the scan (i.e. the state of the library) > is connected to the buffer issue. I find it difficult to see how one can > influence the other since the library is relevant when selecting a > track, but not when playing it, right? But I'm curious to learn all > about whatever might cause rebuffering on a machine with loads of free > CPU capacity... agree. rebuffering is most likely related to interference in wifi (new neighbor with same channel, or new microwave, etc.) or a potential problem in ethernet cabling (bad cable, bad connection at router, etc.). Also, when getting rebuffering, you might see if if is related to a synched player. I was getting some rebuffering on my transporter, and realized it was caused by my RADIO (wifi connected) which happened to be synched to the Transporter at the time. *Location 1:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > Squeezelite *Spares:* several Touch, Radio, SB3 *Controllers:* iPhone4S & iPad2 (iPeng7 & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop *Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] rebuffering problem
I'm also starting to experience rebuffering issues (for the first time in years) so I'd be interested to hear whether a rescan solved it. My last full rescan is not that long ago (couple of weeks) so I doubt that that will change things. But I'll try anyway. I'd also like to understand how the scan (i.e. the state of the library) is connected to the buffer issue. I find it difficult to see how one can influence the other since the library is relevant when selecting a track, but not when playing it, right? But I'm curious to learn all about whatever might cause rebuffering on a machine with loads of free CPU capacity... *Server*: LMS 7.7.3 on a ReadyNAS Ultra 2 *Players*: Radio, Touch, Duet (Receiver & Controller), Boom, Squeezeplayer on iPad 2 *Remote control apps*: iPeng (iOS), SqueezePad (iOS), Squeezecontroller (Android) *Important plugins*: Trackstat, Spicefly Sugarcube, Lazy Search Music, Switch Player, SmartMix, Custom Browse chaug's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47641 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problem with wireless network....
Found a thread about this http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?99826-LMS-really-doesn-t-like-IE11-(Windows-8-1) Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problem with wireless network....
Well IE11 was certainly the browser with the issue, give Chrome or Firefox a go. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problem with wireless network....
jimbobvfr400 wrote: > What browser. I know there was an issue with certain settings pages and > certain versions on Internet Explorer, just wondering if that might > possibly be your issue with setting the name? > > Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk I'm running IE 11 with Windows 8.1 morthan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problem with wireless network....
What browser. I know there was an issue with certain settings pages and certain versions on Internet Explorer, just wondering if that might possibly be your issue with setting the name? Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk jimbobvfr400's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56857 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problem with wireless network....
Thank you for your suggestions. Before I read them I was thinking how odd it was that the second closest player to the router had a signal strength of only 20% and others much further away were much stronger. So I did a little test and turned it off. Violaeverything else worked as it should. I then realised that this Touch player was also connected wirelessly to its speakers. Clearly that was interfering with the router signal. I moved the player from its position to see if I could get a stronger signal. Got it to 75% strength by moving it marginally. That made the difference and I've now had no buffering for about an hour. I might well have fixed the problem. *_Another_issue__*you might be able to help me with is with settings. I have one player that is named 'unnamed controller'. When I choose 'settings' in LMS and choose the 'player' tab I get this message '404 Not Found: playerid=00:04:20:27:0a:d3' and nothing else. I used to be able to change the name of the player by going into this tab. Any suggestions? morthan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problem with wireless network....
morthan wrote: > . This occurs irrespective of whether I am using my local library or > internet radio streaming. . while still connected to the NAS? This could still be a NAS issue. Are the cameras recording to the NAS also? Tried connecting players directly to MySB.com (no NAS)? Same symptoms? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problem with wireless network....
With such long delay and all the players are synced , I would guess that one player may be the cause (the alternatives could be a server / network overload or dying router) and so you may need only to "fix" one player. I suggest try to get a scenario where rebuffering happens predictably and then run a series of tests, repeating the scenario but taking one player out of the sync group for each test. If rebuffering goes away on one of your tests when a specific player is not in the sync group then check he player to see what is the problem. If rebuffering does not go away - look for some more systemic such as server or network overload. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problem with wireless network....
Is the NAS wired to the network if not do that you cut the load in half . 20% is not good , as you see when syncing the player with worst wifi would ruin it . There are countless treads on this forum on how to trace wifi problems , read them a lot of good hints . Having many neighbours with wifi ? But my 0.02$: *Squeezeboxes wifi is not the best . *wifi itself is problematic and in some enviroments with disturbances and competing networks it just won't do . Therefore instead of wasting to much time fighting wifi issues just wire up as much as possible of the system . IMO things that don't move should have Ethernet , leave wifi to the portable stuff . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering problem with wireless network....
Are all the Squeeze devices wireless? What music format is going over your network, FLAC, WAV, MP3? I think WAV would be most taxing and MP3 would be the least. What about the 7 cameras, are they live video and wireless? If the answer is yes, I'd start shutting off cameras. If you get to where all the cameras are shut down and still have the rebuffering then you know your cameras aren't overloading the network causing the squeezes to be rebuffering. I'm sure others will chime in here too. 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for downstairs Rock Solid with LMS 7.8.0 and WHS 2011 w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rebuffering problem with wireless network....
I am running 6 synchronized squeezeboxes (3 Touch, 3 Radio) on a wireless network through LMS on a current (fast) Readynas NAS. I am getting constant rebuffering ( can range from a few seconds to a minute) to the point that its completely unusable. This occurs irrespective of whether I am using my local library or internet radio streaming. Signal strength ranges 100% to 20% (strangely the 20% is second closest to the router). I have tried a complete power cycle of the router and squeezeboxes but that hasn't helped. I am also running 7 Logitech Alert security cameras but my limited understanding is that they should not be causing interference. I have tried to eliminate other issues such as microwave etc but still have the problem. I would greatly appreciate any help or suggestions as I need to get it working for a important function next week. Thank you in advance. morthan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30644 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101768 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] rebuffering problem
cjfreitag wrote: > This afternoon I started getting frequent rebuffing on my Touch; this > unit is connected via ethernet directly to my main router and there was > not any other significant network activity. I tried stopping and > starting LMS (I am running 7.8) but the problem persisted. I'm listening > to ALAC files; this has not been a problem before. > > When I have had rebuffering issues in the past it has been temporary, > and always with online services over WiFi. I have never had issues > playing local music. > > I'd be grateful for any diagnostic or troubleshooting tips... Try doing a complete "Clear Library and Rescan Everything". It's worth doing every so often when re-buffering starts occurring. After the time when the clocks change you can often get a bit of rebuffering activity with LMS, so do the re-scan and see if things improve. Squeezebox Classic:2; Duet: 1; Boom:1; Touch:1; Wandboard Quad; Squeezelite. Server: Wandboard Quad with CSOS; Raspberry Pi/Wolfson Card with Squeezeplug 7.06; (backup:Win 8 Pro 64 bit, Sheevaplug with Squeezeplug); iPeng, iPeng for Ipad, Orange Squeeze, Squeezepad, LMS Version: 7.8.0 latest nightly kesey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] rebuffering problem
This afternoon I started getting frequent rebuffing on my Touch; this unit is connected via ethernet directly to my main router and there was not any other significant network activity. I tried stopping and starting LMS (I am running 7.8) but the problem persisted. I'm listening to ALAC files; this has not been a problem before. When I have had rebuffering issues in the past it has been temporary, and always with online services over WiFi. I have never had issues playing local music. I'd be grateful for any diagnostic or troubleshooting tips... cjfreitag's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41363 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=101272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
fsoares wrote: > After years of joy, for a couple of months I have had this problem. > Music (wether streaming or local files) plays for two, or five, or even > twenty minutes - and then the Sqbox 3 cuts off, goes blank for a couple > of seconds and then automatically restarts, showing the Logitech logo, > etc., as if it had just been plugged in, and resets automatically, with > the screen finally showing whatever was playing - but stopped. If I then > press Play it resumes that radio station, or local file, it was playing > before cutting off. > Now the interesting facts: in happens with both ethernet and wireless > connections, and it happens if I take the Squeezebox to a friend's home > and connect to the internet through his network!!! So it happens > anywhere, frequently and randomly. Right now I am listening to The > Penthouse Radio and the last time I had to hit "Play" was 17 minutes ago > - I am expecting it to go down any minute now > I wonder if it could have something to do with the Sqbox power supply?! > I run LMS v. 7.7.3 on a MacBook pro. But again, it happens also with my > squeezebox.com. Yes it reboots ,so it either down to the power supply or the wifi card in most situations ,but it could be something else but these two faults are common . SB3 is able to function without the wifi card so you could remove it . Some people got lucky and only reseated the wifi card and regained functionality . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
After years of joy, for a couple of months I have had this problem. Music (wether streaming or local files) plays for two, or five, or even twenty minutes - and then the Sqbox 3 cuts off, goes blank for a couple of seconds and then automatically restarts, showing the Logitech logo, etc., as if it had just been plugged in, and resets automatically, with the screen finally showing whatever was playing - but stopped. If I then press Play it resumes that radio station, or local file, it was playing before cutting off. Now the interesting facts: in happens with both ethernet and wireless connections, and it happens if I take the Squeezebox to a friend's home and connect to the internet through his network!!! So it happens anywhere, frequently and randomly. Right now I am listening to The Penthouse Radio and the last time I had to hit "Play" was 17 minutes ago - I am expecting it to go down any minute now I wonder if it could have something to do with the Sqbox power supply?! I run LMS v. 7.7.3 on a MacBook pro. But again, it happens also with my squeezebox.com. fsoares's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4199 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
jimzak wrote: > Unfortunately, I still had some problems with the radio that is just 10 > feet away from my router. I rechecked the WiFi situation with the > analyzer and found no nearby networks that were on the same channel. > > I'll change the channel again and see what happens. I ended up leaving things unchanged and have had several days free of rebuffering. I'll post again if problems continue. http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net dBpoweramp Cisco E4200 SBS 7.8 - i5 laptop - Win 7 64bit 3 Booms, 2 Radio, 1 Touch, 1 iPod Touch w/digital dock 2 controllers, various tablets/phones Various apps including iPeng, Logitech Android, etc. 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 199,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 4 Onkyo TX-NR818, KEF Q300/Q200/iQ30, Outlaw LFM-1 Plus jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
boardtc wrote: > I have rebuffering problems to on my classic, wifi kit in the same room > works without problem but the classic buffers continuously on my local > library and deezer streaming service. I posted about this on this thread > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97866-My-Library-amp-Deezer-buffering-advice-request&p=762037#post762037 > but have not figured out a solution > > Having read a bit here I will try > http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/ and play with the channels > and report back. Are these other wifi kits streaming anything ? this is much more demanding than simple app use or web surfing . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
I have rebuffering problems to on my classic, wifi kit in the same room works without problem but the classic buffers continuously on my local library and deezer streaming service. I posted about this on this thread http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97866-My-Library-amp-Deezer-buffering-advice-request&p=762037#post762037 but have not figured out a solution boardtc's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16085 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
jimzak wrote: > I used my Android Note 10.1 tablet and loaded up a free Wi-Fi app (WiFi > Analyzer) with a 5 star rating. It was quite informative, and it has a > great graphical interface that can be set to display all sorts of useful > info. > > I found another network on the same channel I was using. I moved my > channel down a bit to a relatively unused part of the spectrum. > > I had anticipated that all my devices would have to be reconfigured but > so far they have all found their way onto the new channel without any > fuss. > > I'll report back on the results. > > Thanks. Unfortunately, I still had some problems with the radio that is just 10 feet away from my router. I rechecked the WiFi situation with the analyzer and found no nearby networks that were on the same channel. I'll change the channel again and see what happens. http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net dBpoweramp Cisco E4200 SBS 7.8 - i5 laptop - Win 7 64bit 3 Booms, 2 Radio, 1 Touch, 1 iPod Touch w/digital dock 2 controllers, various tablets/phones Various apps including iPeng, Logitech Android, etc. 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 199,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 4 Onkyo TX-NR818, KEF Q300/Q200/iQ30, Outlaw LFM-1 Plus jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
jimzak wrote: > I had anticipated that all my devices would have to be reconfigured but > so far they have all found their way onto the new channel without any > fuss. > yes, this is "transparent to the devices" in that nothing has to be changed. The devices need to know the SSID and the password, but the channel that WIFI is broadcasting on doesn't require any resetting. *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
garym wrote: > 1. I'd start with examining all the local wifi networks and their > channels. I use "inSSIDer" on my windows laptop. There are other free > programs as well. Run this and you'll see nearby networks and the > channels they are on. Try to use a "low use" channel, and best to use 1, > 6, or 11 if possible as these don't overlap with nearby channels. > > http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/ > > 2. make sure the router is using a fixed wifi channel (and that some > update has not switched it to "automatic" for channel selection. If > outside the US, don't use > 11, even if available. > > 3. I assume you are synching the players. I'd do some testing without > the players synched. Some of the buffering I've had in the past related > to my RADIO (which was synched to the Transporter). The Radio was > struggling a bit with its wifi connection and causing the buffering (on > both the radio and transporter). > > p.s. I occasionally get buffering on some streaming internet radio > stations. Not more than maybe once every 3 or 4 hours typically. And > I've had this on the same station (WNYC-AM) at two different locations > (different internet providers, different equipment, etc.), so I'm > assuming this is more at the provider end vs my end. I used my Android Note 10.1 tablet and loaded up a free Wi-Fi app with a 5 star rating. It was quite informative, and it has a great graphical interface that can be set to display all sorts of useful info. I found another network on the same channel I was using. I moved my channel down a bit to a relatively unused part of the spectrum. I'll report back on the results. Thanks. http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net dBpoweramp Cisco E4200 SBS 7.8 - i5 laptop - Win 7 64bit 3 Booms, 2 Radio, 1 Touch, 1 iPod Touch w/digital dock 2 controllers, various tablets/phones Various apps including iPeng, Logitech Android, etc. 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 199,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 4 Onkyo TX-NR818, KEF Q300/Q200/iQ30, Outlaw LFM-1 Plus jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
avoid using wifi ch above 11 with radio like ch 13 , this is due to a bug with the radio and it's automtic region sensing . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
garym wrote: > 1. I'd start with examining all the local wifi networks and their > channels. I use "inSSIDer" on my windows laptop. There are other free > programs as well. Run this and you'll see nearby networks and the > channels they are on. Try to use a "low use" channel, and best to use 1, > 6, or 11 if possible as these don't overlap with nearby channels. > > http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/ > > 2. make sure the router is using a fixed wifi channel (and that some > update has not switched it to "automatic" for channel selection. If > outside the US, don't use > 11, even if available. > > 3. I assume you are synching the players. I'd do some testing without > the players synched. Some of the buffering I've had in the past related > to my RADIO (which was synched to the Transporter). The Radio was > struggling a bit with its wifi connection and causing the buffering (on > both the radio and transporter). > > p.s. I occasionally get buffering on some streaming internet radio > stations. Not more than maybe once every 3 or 4 hours typically. And > I've had this on the same station (WNYC-AM) at two different locations > (different internet providers, different equipment, etc.), so I'm > assuming this is more at the provider end vs my end. More info: 1. I'm not attempting sync of players at all. 2. This AM when NPR was rebuffering frequently on the Boom in my office downstairs from the router, I switched to using Squeezeplay on my desktop computer which is wired by ethernet cable to my network: no rebuffering whatsoever. I'll try the Wi-Fi sleuthing software later today and report back. Thanks. http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net dBpoweramp Cisco E4200 SBS 7.8 - i5 laptop - Win 7 64bit 3 Booms, 2 Radio, 1 Touch, 1 iPod Touch w/digital dock 2 controllers, various tablets/phones Various apps including iPeng, Logitech Android, etc. 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 199,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 4 Onkyo TX-NR818, KEF Q300/Q200/iQ30, Outlaw LFM-1 Plus jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
jimzak wrote: > Hi. > > I'm going to jump in this thread and share that after several years of > stability, I'm getting rebuffering on my system now, mainly streaming > services (NPR) but also with Flac files streaming locally. > > One radio in my bathroom is less than 10 feet away from my router and I > get rebuffering of local Flac files and streaming NPR. > > I'm aware that this means that likely that there is some new Wi-Fi > nearby that is interfering. > > What would be the suggested algorithm for troubleshooting this problem? > > Thanks. > > - > > LMS server: i5 laptop wired to router > Router: Cisco E4200 1. I'd start with examining all the local wifi networks and their channels. I use "inSSIDer" on my windows laptop. There are other free programs as well. Run this and you'll see nearby networks and the channels they are on. Try to use a "low use" channel, and best to use 1, 6, or 11 if possible as these don't overlap with nearby channels. http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/ 2. make sure the router is using a fixed wifi channel (and that some update has not switched it to "automatic" for channel selection. If outside the US, don't use > 11, even if available. 3. I assume you are synching the players. I'd do some testing without the players synched. Some of the buffering I've had in the past related to my RADIO (which was synched to the Transporter). The Radio was struggling a bit with its wifi connection and causing the buffering (on both the radio and transporter). p.s. I occasionally get buffering on some streaming internet radio stations. Not more than maybe once every 3 or 4 hours typically. And I've had this on the same station (WNYC-AM) at two different locations (different internet providers, different equipment, etc.), so I'm assuming this is more at the provider end vs my end. *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
Hi. I'm going to jump in this thread and share that after several years of stability, I'm getting rebuffering on my system now, mainly streaming services (NPR) but also with Flac files streaming locally. One radio in my bathroom is less than 10 feet away from my router and I get rebuffering of local Flac files and streaming NPR. I'm aware that this means that likely that there is some new Wi-Fi nearby that is interfering. What would be the suggested algorithm for troubleshooting this problem? Thanks. - LMS server: i5 laptop wired to router Router: Cisco E4200 http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net dBpoweramp Cisco E4200 SBS 7.8 - i5 laptop - Win 7 64bit 3 Booms, 2 Radio, 1 Touch, 1 iPod Touch w/digital dock 2 controllers, various tablets/phones Various apps including iPeng, Logitech Android, etc. 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg): 199,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 4 Onkyo TX-NR818, KEF Q300/Q200/iQ30, Outlaw LFM-1 Plus jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
callesoroe wrote: > I upgraded from a ReadNas Duo to a ReadyNas Ultra. And it was a huuuge > improvement. :) I haven't followed this issue closely, but just from seeing some threads on this forum, there seems to be some sort of newer OS for readynas units for which there is not a LMS version available. Perhaps this is resolved, but worth understanding before buying a newer readynas. *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
bb1959 wrote: > Any thoughts on a replacement NAS? I upgraded from a ReadNas Duo to a ReadyNas Ultra. And it was a huuuge improvement. :) Callesoroe Living room: Transporter, Tact RCS 2.2X digital preamp, Martin Logan Vista speakers, AMPS(Icepower): Acoustic Reality Ear Enigma PLUS(PANELS), Acoustic Reality Ear TWO MKII(Bas) Kitchen: SB-duet, Beresford TC7510 DAC, Prodipe Pro 5 active bi-amp speakers. callesoroe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22693 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
Not really. too many options. Many NAS units seem to be over priced (particularly ReadyNAS). There are lots of choices these days. Be careful to get one with an x86 chip (the old readynas duo did NOT have x86 chip). And some of the newer readynas units are powerful enough but don't easily run LMS. Search these forms for "NAS Suggestion" or "NAS Recommendation" and you'll see some discussions. Not all NAS units will run LMS. So get some confirmation from the forum before buying. I use vortexbox appliance from "small green computer" as a NAS. Very powerful, very open for tinkering (if one wants). and you could install the free vortexbox operating system on any old desktop or laptop you have sitting around and use that. for the desktop you don't need monitor or keyboard. You access the computer running VB from any other computer on your network via a browser and a webGUI. p.s. Even with my old readynas duo that was way underpowered, I didn't have a buffering problem. It was painfully slow when scanning my music library or browsing by artist or album, etc. But actual *playing* of the files was just fine (although I wasn't playing any 24/96 files). All 16/44.1 flac and mp3. *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Any thoughts on a replacement NAS? bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym wrote: > if highres seems to work, next test your streaming services. In your > laptop LMS be sure to add your mysqueezebox.com credentials in LMS > > Settings > mysqueezebox.com tab so that it picks up your myapps (like > MOG, etc.). I'm playing lastFM right now. So far so good. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym wrote: > I'm a bit confused as I thought you said earlier that you'd narrowed it > down to only having buffering with highres files. Streaming services > are not highres (mog is maybe 320kbs mp3). But I'd keep the testing for > now with local files...high res vs regular. If that is still a problem, > then this has nothing to do with your external internet connection. Yea, not as frequent on the streaming services...and only some but now all. I think lastFM is the biggest culprit. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bb1959 wrote: > I also get dropouts on my steaming services as well. I'm a bit confused as I thought you said earlier that you'd narrowed it down to only having buffering with highres files. Streaming services are not highres (mog is maybe 320kbs mp3). But I'd keep the testing for now with local files...high res vs regular. If that is still a problem, then this has nothing to do with your external internet connection. *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bb1959 wrote: > Sorry, brain freeze. Just scanned library on my pc. Now playing my > 24/96 high rez files...so far no dropout/rebuffering. I will play for > awhile and see if it's refuffering free. If so, I guess I need to > replace my nas. if highres seems to work, next test your streaming services. In your laptop LMS be sure to add your mysqueezebox.com credentials in LMS > Settings > mysqueezebox.com tab so that it picks up your myapps (like MOG, etc.). *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym wrote: > on the laptop: > > 1. install LMS > 2. copy whatever songs you want in library to test over to laptop > 3. in LMS > Settings > Basic Settings tab, point to the music directory > on laptop with files and give this music library a name like "laptop > LMS". > 4. On your TOUCH, go to My Music, then scroll down to bottom and select > "change library" (or something like that, from my memory). Then select > "laptop LMS" > > At this point your TOUCH is connected to your laptop LMS. Sorry, brain freeze. Just scanned library on my pc. Now playing my 24/96 high rez files...so far no dropout/rebuffering. I will play for awhile and see if it's refuffering free. If so, I guess I need to replace my nas. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bb1959 wrote: > Once I disconnect my NAS, exactly how do I go about connecting my > laptop? I just connected the ethernet cable to my laptop which is > running LMS and it showed up on my touch but when I tried to play a song > it could not find the file. on the laptop: 1. install LMS 2. copy whatever songs you want in library to test over to laptop 3. in LMS > Settings > Basic Settings tab, point to the music directory on laptop with files and give this music library a name like "laptop LMS". 4. On your TOUCH, go to My Music, then scroll down to bottom and select "change library" (or something like that, from my memory). Then select "laptop LMS" At this point your TOUCH is connected to your laptop LMS. *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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garym wrote: > Should be easy to test then (even trying different sockets on the > router). Regarding ATTUverse, I suspect that even though you have a > combined modem/router, etc. one can typically connect a router to the > first unit, "turn off the DHCP server in the ATTUverse router" and then > use the DHCP router in the new attached router. But then again, it all > worked before without this, so something simple may have changed (or bad > cable, etc.). And the internet connection is irrelevant to this problem > because the playing your doing is local music, not streaming. > > p.s. And I still think you could test the ReadyNAS itself, but taking it > out of the equation and connecting your laptop running LMS to the router > instead as a test. Once I disconnect my NAS, exactly how do I go about connecting my laptop? I just connected the ethernet cable to my laptop which is running LMS and it showed up on my touch but when I tried to play a song it could not find the file. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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toby10 wrote: > To be clear, the streaming services are not rebuffering, only hi-res > local files rebuffer, correct? I also get dropouts on my steaming services as well. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bb1959 wrote: > I'm getting rebuffering 2 -3 times per song on my local media and same > with streaming media (MOG, LastFM, Slacker). To be clear, the streaming services are not rebuffering, only hi-res local files rebuffer, correct? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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You could also attach a switch to the router and all stuff to the switch and then the actual traffic with local files goes trough the switch and router only handle DCHP and Internet . As long as NAS and players got their ip subnet dns etc correct , it will work . Btw check the ip of server and players . It would also be easy to check CPU load on the NAS ,use ssh and run the top command . It could be a pending disc failure . The player and server are truly wired with Ethernet , no power line adapters or similar ? The player. Was it previously on wifi ? Did you redo the network setup after wiring it ? It does not become wired just by putting in the cable you must do the network,setup to use it . If you use LMS web-UI and go to settings - information and player shows its wifi strength it is using wifi . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bb1959 wrote: > Both the touch and NAS are connected directly to the router in the same > room. It drops whether synced or not. I'll replace the ethernet cables > tomorrow and report back. > > BTW, I use ATTUverse for internet/phone/tv. I'm not sure if I can > replace the router. Should be easy to test then (even trying different sockets on the router). Regarding ATTUverse, I suspect that even though you have a combined modem/router, etc. one can typically connect a router to the first unit, "turn off the DHCP server in the ATTUverse router" and then use the DHCP router in the new attached router. But then again, it all worked before without this, so something simple may have changed (or bad cable, etc.). And the internet connection is irrelevant to this problem because the playing your doing is local music, not streaming. p.s. And I still think you could test the ReadyNAS itself, but taking it out of the equation and connecting your laptop running LMS to the router instead as a test. *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Both the touch and NAS are connected directly to the router in the same room. It drops whether synced or not. I'll replace the ethernet cables tomorrow and report back. BTW, I use ATTUverse for internet/phone/tv. I'm not sure if I can replace the router. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Is the touch connected directly to the router or is it in a different room with ethernet cables in the wall. If the latter, before replacing the router, I'd move the touch temporarily near the router and connect it to the router directly. So you'd have the touch and NAS connected directly to the router. Maybe replace the ethernet cables. cables and cable ends can go bad. And don't sync. Then see if you get buffering then using the Touch. If you do, then the router might be the issue. If you don't then it may be something between the router > ethernet cabling > touch in other room. Also, when you say connected via ethernet, it is actually ethernet connection or is it something like "ethernet over powerline" or MoCa (ethernet over cable)? Are there any intermediate switches involved? then again, if you router is more than 2 or 3 years old, you can likely get a much better router for a cheap price anyhow. *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Plenty of room on my nas bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bb1959 wrote: > still dropoutsI guess I'll replace the router and see what happens. > > thanks, Didn't the Soundcheck's mods include some "low latency" voodoo ? Maybe your hard drive is filling up. Read or write performance decrease the less free space is available... Before changing the router, I would try removing any low latency tweaks, or connecting another drive. 4 SB 3 iPeng (iPhone + iPad) SqueezeLite Squeezebox Server 7.6.2 (Debian 6.0) with plugins: CD Player, WaveInput by bpa IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) Server Power Control by Gordon Harris Smart Mix by Michael Herger PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple Song Info, Song Lyrics by Erland Isaksson Just Covers by Tom Kalmijn WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld Local Player, BBC iPlayer, SwitchPlayer by Triode Auto Dim Display, SaverSwitcher, ContextMenu by Peter Watkins. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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still dropoutsI guess I'll replace the router and see what happens. thanks, bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Try turning everything off, including unplugging router and any switch. Restart router, then readynas, them touch players. If still problem, I suspect bad router, switch or Ethernet cables. *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bb1959 wrote: > I download only 24/96. Would upgrading my NAS be the way to go? I > really hate to do that but if it's the only solution... > > BTW, I've had the NAS for 4 or so years and I've been downloading 24/96 > flac for at least several years and never had the dropout problem until > recently. Not really you can easilly convert your 24/192 files to 24/96 with some mouse clicks with suitable software and use those copies on your server and keep the original as backup somewhere . Note that squeezebo radio is limited to 48kHz , so syncing. A radio with a touch would result in a 48k stream . Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (in storage SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Just reset flac settings: FLAC AIFF FLAC FLAC NATIVE MP3 disabled (this is grayed out) PCM FLAC still having dropouts. I don't have 24/192 files, just 24/96. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bb1959 wrote: > I did souncheck's mods awhile back and followed the instructions to have > LMS do the decoding...I forgot how I did it. I'll look around the > settings and see if I can remember and set it the other way. that's probably your issue. readynas duo is not that powerful. And you're now sending a large pcm file accross the network instead of a smaller FLAC file. go into LMS > Settings > advanced > filetypes for FLAC, settings should be: FLACAIFF FLAC FLAC NATIVE MP3 FLAC/LAME PCM FLAC *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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JohnSwenson wrote: > One thing to check in the LMS settings is the file type settings, flac > file can either be sent as flac files and the Touch does the decoding, > or LMS can do the decoding and send PCM to the touch. Try it both ways > and see which works better. I'm on vacation right now so I don't have an > LMS handy to tell you exactly what the settings are, but there are > others here that can help with that if you can't figure it out on your > own. > > One thing we do know is that many of the online sources compress their > files with level 8, the highest compression ratio, which takes more > horsepower to decode. You might want to try a program that takes the > flac file and re-compress it with a lower level (say 1) and see if that > makes any difference. > > John S. excellent points. I've had to convert from FLAC to FLAC on highres files before in order to make them work properly on my LMS. One can use foobar2000 or dbpoweramp for example to do this flac > flac conversion. *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I did souncheck's mods awhile back and followed the instructions to have LMS do the decoding...I forgot how I did it. I'll look around the settings and see if I can remember and set it the other way. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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bb1959 wrote: > I download only 24/96. Would upgrading my NAS be the way to go? I > really hate to do that but if it's the only solution... > > BTW, I've had the NAS for 4 or so years and I've been downloading 24/96 > flac for at least several years and never had the dropout problem until > recently. One thing to check in the LMS settings is the file type settings, flac file can either be sent as flac files and the Touch does the decoding, or LMS can do the decoding and send PCM to the touch. Try it both ways and see which works better. I'm on vacation right now so I don't have an LMS handy to tell you exactly what the settings are, but there are others here that can help with that if you can't figure it out on your own. One thing we do know is that many of the online sources compress their files with level 8, the highest compression ratio, which takes more horsepower to decode. You might want to try a program that takes the flac file and re-compress it with a lower level (say 1) and see if that makes any difference. John S. JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
bb1959 wrote: > I download only 24/96. Would upgrading my NAS be the way to go? I > really hate to do that but if it's the only solution... > > BTW, I've had the NAS for 4 or so years and I've been downloading 24/96 > flac for at least several years and never had the dropout problem until > recently. 24/96 should be fine as the Touch plays them natively. And the fact that you've been using them and have no problem points to something else. It seems: 1. only happens with your 24/96 files (more of a strain on network) 2. your NAS and TOUCH players are all wired via ethernet (so no WIFI involved) 3. All worked ok in the past with same files and NAS. This leads me to believe that something is going wrong with your router, any switches you are using, or even an ethernet cable. Switches/routers can have particular jacks go bad. Cables can go bad, etc. And maybe it takes the hires files to "stress" the system and make the problem appear. You can test the readynas, by plugging in a laptop or something to your router. Install LMS on the laptop, put some files on it, including hires, and stream to your touches. Still get buffering? If so, not the readynas fault. No buffering? Then I'm curious about the readynas (although it could still only be the switch, router,cables at that point) *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
I download only 24/96. Would upgrading my NAS be the way to go? I really hate to do that but if it's the only solution... BTW, I've had the NAS for 4 or so years and I've been downloading 24/96 flac for at least several years and never had the dropout problem until recently. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
bb1959 wrote: > yes, my touches are synced. I may have narrowed down the problem a wee > bit. > > The rebuffering was occurring on my local media with high rez files > downloaded from hdtracks. I'm now playing local media ripped from my > cd's and no rebuffering. > > So maybe it's the flac files only? 16/44.1 flac are probably not causing buffering. Probably the 24/96 or 24/192 flacs. I can see how things might buffer with 24/192 files (as the readynas duo is woefully underpowered (I have one) and it has to do the work to convert the 24/192 to 24/96 so the Touch can play it. I wouldn't expect buffering with the 24/96 given that no conversion is being done (and everything is wired with ethernet). *Location 1:* VortexBox (2.2) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Location 2:* VBA 3TB (2.2) > LMS 7.7.2 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) *Office:* Win7(64) > LMS 7.8 > SqueezePlay *Spares:* VBA 4TB, SB3, Touch (3), Radio (3), CONTROLLER *Controllers:* iPhone4S (iPeng), iPad2 (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Tagging - mp3tag, Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
Are the Touches sync'd or playing separately? aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
yes, my touches are synced. I may have narrowed down the problem a wee bit. The rebuffering was occurring on my local media with high rez files downloaded from hdtracks. I'm now playing local media ripped from my cd's and no rebuffering. So maybe it's the flac files only? bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
Running LMS on ReadyNas Duo (Firmware: 7.7.2-r9663), touches are connected via ethernet). No new router, microwave, etc. bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
What about connecting player directly to MySB.com (no LMS even running) for online stations? Still get re buffering? toby10's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12553 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering nightmare
Some basic information would help. What are you running LMS on (computer, NAS, one of your Touches)? Are any of your connections, particularly the server, wireless? If you're running LMS on a computer, what are the other demands on the computer? If wifi is any part of your equation, note that some things could affect your setup that you may not notice at first, such as a malfunctioning microwave oven, a new wireless router in the neighborhood, etc. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rebuffering nightmare
I'm getting rebuffering 2 -3 times per song on my local media and same with streaming media (MOG, LastFM, Slacker). I've had my setup for awhile (about 4 years, 2 SBT's) and it has never been this bad. Any ideas?? It's really maddening!! Brooks bb1959's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=24793 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=100272 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering Problem
Mnyb wrote: > To rule out an wifi issue ( which is most likely here as higher bitrate > stuff buffers and dropout ) try a player via Ethernet ,don't forget to > redo the networks settings plugin in the cable does do this > automatically . > > I assume that vb is wired to router ,with that many players ? > > Now try it . And if you are synching players, temporarily unsynch them while testing things. garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering Problem
To rule out an wifi issue ( which is most likely here as higher bitrate stuff buffers and dropout ) try a player via Ethernet ,don't forget to redo the networks settings plugin in the cable does do this automatically . I assume that vb is wired to router ,with that many players ? Now try it . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering Problem
shamanjr wrote: > Hello, I have a Squeezebox system running on wifi thru a Timecapsule > with 3 airport express units extending the network. I have a Vortexbox > with 1Gb RAM, with almost 2TBs of FLAC files. My 8 clients are a > Transporter, a Touch, and 6 Radios. I recently switched Vortexboxes and > to a 2TB unit. I am experiencing significant rebuffering issues, about > every 10-20 seconds. Occasionally it causes the Transporter to freeze > and have to be reset. This only happens when I am streaming my local > collection, not on Pandora. I am running the most recent version of LMS > on the Linux based system. I posted at the Vortexbox forums and was > advised that it was most likely a network issue. I do not think that is > the case, as I never experienced any issues before, and do not > experience them with Pandora. I realize that Pandora sampling is lower, > but it seems that there is some sort of incompatibility or hardware > issue. I have reset everything, reloaded LMS and even reset the > timecapsule and the Expresses. This is a really frustrating problem. I don't have any answers, but I have a 3 VBA units (a 6TB, 4TB, and 3TB). All are running updated VB updates and LMS updates. I have transporter, touch(s), Radios, and booms. I stream local FLAC files and online things as well (like pandora). I have no buffering issues, etc. I very much suspect that you have an issue with your network. Could be something related to IP address, DNS info in your new VB setup, etc. I'm not a network guy, but sure sounds like a network issue. And I do know that with all the same equipment as you I have no buffering issues with FLAC files (mostly 16/44.1 but I do have a few 24/96 files too that work fine). garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rebuffering Problem
Hello, I have a Squeezebox system running on wifi thru a Timecapsule with 3 airport express units extending the network. I have a Vortexbox with 1Gb RAM, with almost 2TBs of FLAC files. My 8 clients are a Transporter, a Touch, and 6 Radios. I recently switched Vortexboxes and to a 2TB unit. I am experiencing significant rebuffering issues, about every 10-20 seconds. Occasionally it causes the Transporter to freeze and have to be reset. This only happens when I am streaming my local collection, not on Pandora. I am running the most recent version of LMS on the Linux based system. I posted at the Vortexbox forums and was advised that it was most likely a network issue. I do not think that is the case, as I never experienced any issues before, and do not experience them with Pandora. I realize that Pandora sampling is lower, but it seems that there is some sort of incompatibility or hardware issue. I have reset everything, reloaded LMS and even reset the timecapsule and the Expresses. This is a really frustrating problem. shamanjr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48112 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=96985 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering Problem - Squeezebox Classic
Sorry for not repling sooner. Neighbours went away the other week and everything got better. As it's a night-time problem I'm blaming their baby listeners :) Doesn't help that my SB Classic is right up against next doors wall I guess. I think the issue was limited to FLAC files, probably just due to their size. Thinking about it, YouTube vids used to hang in the same room on my old laptop as well. Could be related. Still, the WiFi tool was interesting and my router runs Tomato, so I was able to boost the power (but not too much), which I believe has helped. -- Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering Problem - Squeezebox Classic
Run (free) "inssider 2" on your PC to check what's going on in WiFi space in your area: http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/ -- mooblie Martin at *_'HeadSpin_HD' (http://www.headspin.plus.com)_* now on -*Blu-ray-* mooblie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering Problem - Squeezebox Classic
I'd say the most likely cause is wifi interference. It could be a neighbor's new router, or old router switched to a different channel that collides with yours. Or cordless phones, or a baby monitor, or microwave oven. Any of those could easily interfere with one of your wifi devices (eg, the SB3/Classic) and not the other (eg, the Boom). The "80% network" is an average figure that often doesn't capture interference. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering Problem - Squeezebox Classic
... and today it seems better. Strange. -- Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rebuffering Problem - Squeezebox Classic
Hi, I have a Squeezebox Classic (Firmware 133) and a Squeezebox Boom running on SBS Version: 7.5.4 - r32171. The hardware is an old Dell PC running Ubuntu server. Recently the Classic has started rebuffering when playing flac files every 10 seconds or so. The Boom is fine. Both have 80% network. Any ideas? -- Fiddlesticks Fiddlesticks's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26686 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88706 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering with Napster only,please help.
Hi, I have noticed the rebuffering is much worse in recent weeks. It seemed to settle down after Christmas, but is back. As per original thread, its just Napster; internet radio and my flac music have no issues at all. Just me (us), or anyone esle noticing this getting worse? Appeciate any comments thanks -- Dandaw66 Dandaw66's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87811 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering with Napster only,please help.
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[slim] Rebuffering with Napster only,please help.
Hi, this is my first post so please can you try and help me. When using the napster app with my squeezebox duet every song keeps rebuffering, this has only just started to happen as its been working fine for weeks. The squeezebox is plugged into a home powerline network and I have very good internet speed. I only get the rebuffering problem with Napster, songs are streamed from my mac and internet radio fine. Any help would be great. Thanks -- alanw3188 alanw3188's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46810 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87811 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] "Rebuffering" when adding music to Now Playing
Just in process of moving a Squeezebox2 (Firmware 40) from my cottage to my house. Functioned great for many years, in a very straightforward wired/router network, with SBS and MyMusic on a Mac. For my home network, I have a new install of SBS 7.5.2 on a good sized desktop with not much of anything else running on it, XP SP3. The PC is connected to a 4-month-old DSL service-provided 2Wire router via 200 MB Powerline Network Adapters. The adapters' status shows excellent transmission strength. MyMusic is on a Time Capsule attached to the router, which is used as a NAS (and as a WAP). The SB2 is connected to router via ethernet, so the whole stream is essentially wired. Music streams just fine. With player display set to show Buffer, it stays at 99-100%. However, when I add even a single new song, a second or two later the buffer drops way off, and sometimes even stops playing to rebuffer. If I add a whack of songs (say the whole Zeppelin library) it will almost always have stop playing and rebuffer (sometimes several times), as it adds songs. Music is mostly MP3, some AAC. Have tried with various songs/albums/artists to eliminate specific files as an issue. Frustratingly, this appears to happen most times, but not all the time, sometimes adding musinc doesn't seem to affect buffer at all. Between the hardwiring and the buffer status when playing, I don't think it is a network issue. Based on symptoms, I would have suspected an issue with the player (if the buffer can hold a minute or two of music, why would music drop out during the few seconds it takes to add music to Now Playing?) but there has been no changes to the player firmware, etc. SBS version is a possibility I guess, as it was never an issue in old environment. I have cleared cache and reset preferences, and rescanned library (took 4 hrs for ~14,000 songs). Still the issue. I am going to experiment with a couple of things to try to isolate (older SBS version, temporarily replace the powerline leg with cable) but would appreciate any input on other things to look for. Maybe some new Add-ins are causing some issues? Transcoding (I think both MP3 and AAC are set to native). Also very willing to check/provide logs, etc. if told what to look for. A potential workaround is to sync music onto the PC so the server and My Music are on the same computer, but I would then be complicating things, and I think the systems should work as I've described... Thanks, Jim -- larjim larjim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4797 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84765 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering when streaming My Music
Many thanks wayne I will give it go. However the internet radio works perfectly and it all worked fine with the old computer - making me think it's more likely something with the computer. -- mrchan mrchan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39315 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering when streaming My Music
mrchan;562482 Wrote: > I have just replaced an old computer with a new Dell Inspisron Zeno - > not very flash but much more processing capability than my previous > computer. Before this change all was working perfectly but now it will > not stream music from the computer without continuously rebuffering - > making it impossible to listen to. Streaming internet radio still works > perfectly. Does anyone know of any settings that I need to adjust on the > computer? or any other thoughts? > > The computer his hooked directly (ethernet) to a sky wireless router > and the squeeze box controller and reciever are both wireless - no > change to this configuration. I had the same problem and the cause was a conflict of wireless channels in my neighbourhood - specifically right next door. Whenever the porn got fired up next door, my transporter would rebuffer ;-). THere is probably an app that came with your wireless card that will do a "site survey" - basically it'll tell you what networks it sees on what channels. Run that program and find a channel that's not used or has low power on it. THen you'll have to log into your wireless router and change the channel to that one. Hopefully you'll also find that the current channel is one that there is one or more strong local interferers on. I'd say try this first anyhow - it can only help, even if it's not the primary cause of your rebuffering issue. You may also have to re-do this occasionally as people who live near you add wifi networks. -- wayne325 wayne325's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29916 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Rebuffering when streaming My Music
I have just replaced an old computer with a new Dell Inspisron Zeno - not very flash but much more processing capability than my previous computer. Before this change all was working perfectly but now it will not stream music from the computer without continuously rebuffering - making it impossible to listen to. Streaming internet radio still works perfectly. Does anyone know of any settings that I need to adjust on the computer? or any other thoughts? The computer his hooked directly (ethernet) to a sky wireless router and the squeeze box controller and reciever are both wireless - no change to this configuration. -- mrchan mrchan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39315 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Nonreality;521504 Wrote: > Could my SB3 have an old router setting stuck in it so that it is trying > access that when my computer is off? If so how do I tell or fix it? check current settings , hold left arrow for a while then the SB3 enters "Squeezebox Setup" Then you have Current Settings (2 of 4) here you can scroll trough your settings to se if they make sense . You can also check Conect to. (4 of 4 ) which should be your local server. Menu (3 of 4) is a way to conect to mysquueezebox.com directly from firmware setup Menu (1 of 4) is the setup here is where you setup networking. -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) Miscellaneous use: Radio (battery pack to be ordered) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Phil Leigh;521081 Wrote: > Nonreality - check the dns setings in your router and xp network > settings - tcp/ip properties and also in your sb's Could my SB3 have an old router setting stuck in it so that it is trying access that when my computer is off? If so how do I tell or fix it? -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Nonreality - check the dns setings in your router and xp network settings - tcp/ip properties and also in your sb's -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Nonreality;521051 Wrote: > If I understand you right then yes my results are 100% as far as the > test go. I also have 2gb of ram. It only has about 20 feet to go so not > a long distance. I admit I've shied away from flac ever since i've had > problems with it. So right now I'm playing some flac music without a > problem to test it out. As far as using mysqueezebox.com it still only > works while my server machine is operating. The minute that it is off > the SB3 says it can not connect to the server? It's not a huge deal now > but could be in the future. So far the flac is playing correctly so > maybe I have overreacted to a problem that has been fixed. If so I'm > sorry to have brought it up again. But the problem with not being able > to access mysqueezebox.com still continues and that does very much > concern me. That is weird you are on 7.4.x i supose.. now I see your other tread. -- Mnyb Main hifi: SB3 (soon to replaced by a Touch :) It is on preorder) Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Receiver (soon to be replaced by my SB3 and the SBR to be stuffed in a box in the attic ) I use a Controller various ir-remotes and a Eee-PC with squeezeplay to control this Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
Mnyb;521047 Wrote: > Your machine is certainly 1000 times faster than some of these NAS boxes > I suppose the joke was not on you. > > Xp that was a long ago but anything around 1-1.6mHz with >=1GB ram > should certainly do it very well, some run XP with only 512mB of RAM > thats barely enough to keep XP happy, and it upgrades all the time. So > what iremebered of XP was that use of system resources was creeping > upwards all the time. > If you run some other OS i supose 512mB would actually be more than > ok. > > Have you done the streaming test lately how fast does it go close to > 3000kBs is expected on an SB3 If one want to test the server trothle up > the network test on all players. > > An bad example I know on my old XP partition i could never reach above > 1500kBs but I think that was Nortons doing that something had gone > really bad about the way my computer handled ip traffic, i tried other > firewalls but once Norton has been installed in a system it's forever > fubare'd . > Tried ubuntu on the same hardware worked splendidly. > > I never seen any similar report on how to fault trace that. Is XP known > to having problems with moving data fast ? > > Multiboot is a possible way to try things on slow machines (othervise > virtual machines or good). I have an Ubuntu partition and one XP > partition. > You can do this with any combination you can run 2 different XP > partitions too ? that's a way to see if it is the OS or hardware thats > misbehave. If I understand you right then yes my results are 100% as far as the test go. It only has about 20 feet to go so not a long distance. I admit I've shied away from flac ever since i've had problems with it. So right now I'm playing some flac music without a problem to test it out. As far as using mysqueezebox.com it still only works while my server machine is operating. The minute that it is off the SB3 says it can not connect to the server? It's not a huge deal now but could be in the future. So far the flac is playing correctly so maybe I have overreacted to a problem that has been fixed. If so I'm sorry to have brought it up again. But the problem with not being able to access mysqueezebox.com still continues and that does very much concern me. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Rebuffering is ruining the Squeezebox experience
There should be no problem running on XP with 7.2.4. IS your system all-wired? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... SB Touch Beta (wired) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) + Good Vibrations S/W - MF Triplethreat(Audiocom full mods) - Linn 5103 - Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Digital,Kimber Speaker & Chord Interconnect cables Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=65719 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
