[slim] Wireless bridge on SB3 - happy user

2009-12-16 Thread Kevint

Bought a new Windows 7 PC this week, it didn't come with a wireless
networking card but has several free PCI Express slots, looked at buying
a wireless card but there seems to be a lot uncertainty over Windows 7
driver support for these type of cards and a few horror stories out
there. Remembered my SB3 can act as a wireless bridge, so relocated it
nearer this PC and hooked up an ethernet cable, re-ran network setup on
my SB3 and turned the bridge feature on - worked first time and works
every time.


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Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic

2008-11-24 Thread sc53

Make sure you are using a crossover ethernet cable rather than a regular
one. They look the same but the bridging won't work with the regular,
non-crossover cable.


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Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic

2008-11-24 Thread mvalera

or you can also use an ethernet switch with auto switching between the
SB3 and your other devices.

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Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic

2008-11-24 Thread dminches

sc53;363096 Wrote: 
 Make sure you are using a crossover ethernet cable rather than a regular
 one. They look the same but the bridging won't work with the regular,
 non-crossover cable.


I am using regular cat5 cabling and it is working fine.  Maybe the
cable has crossover capability but I didn't think so.  How can one tell
the difference?


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Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic

2008-11-24 Thread radish

It's not really very easy to tell by looking at it, which is why they're
usually marked. As an addendum to what sc53 said, a regular patch cord
will work for a direct connection if one or both of the devices
supports auto switching. The SB classic doesn't, but many other devices
(computers etc) do. It's possible that whatever you have it connected to
is auto switching so you don't need a crossover.


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Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic

2008-11-24 Thread dminches

I am bridging to a DirecTV Hr20-700.  If what you are saying is correct,
it must support auto-switching.

On a side note, does the SB3 manual discuss this cabling requirement?


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Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic

2008-11-24 Thread Pat Farrell
dminches wrote:
 I am using regular cat5 cabling and it is working fine.  Maybe the
 cable has crossover capability but I didn't think so.  How can one tell
 the difference?

A lot of modern devices self detect.

The only way I know to easily tell is to plug both ends into a ethernet
tester. If you have really good eyes, you may be able to pick out the
color codes on the RJ45
If both look like this picture, then its straigt
http://www.pfarrell.com/misc/rj45_patch.gif


Some info here:
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Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic

2008-11-24 Thread radish

dminches;363155 Wrote: 
 I am bridging to a DirecTV Hr20-700.  If what you are saying is correct,
 it must support auto-switching.
 
 On a side note, does the SB3 manual discuss this cabling requirement?

Yes it does, briefly. Although it's not specific to the SB3, you need a
crossover (or auto MDIX) whenever you directly connect two devices
without a switch.


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Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic

2008-11-23 Thread radish

akushnir;362381 Wrote: 
 
 Could this attempt at connecting another device through the SB bridge
 function have crashed my router? 
Maybe, but it really shouldn't cause any problems. Give it another go
and see what happens. You may have DHCP problems when using bridging,
in which case use a static IP for either the SB, the DVR or both.


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[slim] wireless bridge function sb classic

2008-11-21 Thread akushnir

My SB classic works great via wireless about 80ft from my router.I just
got a DirectTV HDDVR with internet capability which sits next to the SB
so I wanted to use the SB as a wireless bridge rather than run a cable.
I turned bridging on. I followed the directions for the Direct TV box.
My tv showed that indeed the network was connected, but I couldn't get
a internet connection on the DirectTV box.
Later, I found that my internet was down and I had to do a cable modem
and router reset.  I haven't tried the setup again.
Could this attempt at connecting another device through the SB bridge
function have crashed my router? Is there something else I need to be
careful of before trying this again? 
Thanks for any suggestions.
Alan


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[slim] Wireless Bridge problems after latest firmware

2008-09-03 Thread Merlin

I upgraded to SC 7.2 and had to upgrade my SB3 firmware. 

I have a NAS connected via cross over ethernet to the back of the SB3. 
Since upgrading to the new firmware, I keep losing my connection with
the NAS.

I'm using XP, SC 7.2, SB3 Firmware 112

Any ideas?

Is there anyway of rolling back the firmware and going back to SC 7.1?


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Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet

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Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet

2008-08-09 Thread mrthreeplates

I just bought a controller/receiver and am really impressed.

However, I miss the ability to bridge the wired/wireless networks
that I have with my SB3s  Transporter.

I've voted for bug #9024.

Can anyone provide a link to the perl hack discussed above and used to
enable this feature?

Much thanks,

George


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Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet

2008-08-04 Thread johndewey

Don't get me wrong, I love my Duet.  Sometimes I am a bit frustrated
with it and I doubt I am alone on that one.  It is an odd mix of
simplicity and incredible complexity.  But so is the problem of having
accumulated 30 years of music and wanting it organized and accessible. 
I think SlimDevices has a great product that has a very simple/elegant
system architecture.  I wish I had the time to join up with the
developer effort.

As for bridging being an undocumented feature, I now see that you are
100% correct.  It is not on the spec page, nor is it in the user
manual.  For earlier hardware models it does appear in both places. 
HOWEVER, I am perplexed as to why this feature appears in almost every
one of the bountiful Duet reviews.  Must be that all those reviewers
are also fluent with perl. 

Enough said, I await its incorporation into one of the two user
interfaces.

Thanks and Cheers
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Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet

2008-08-04 Thread seanadams

Usually when we talk about bridge mode on the receiver, we are referring
to the capability where if you have no preexisting wireless network, the
receiver can act as a wireless bridge in order to give the wireless
_controller_ access to the wired network. This is a quite common
scenario that is easy to set up.

What you're describing is significantly different, because instead of
communicating ad hoc between paired devices, what you're really doing
is setting up the receiver as a client to your existing access point,
while also enabling bridging. This is considered a far more
unusual/advanced setup, which is why it is not exposed in the UI. Also,
this capability makes it easy to inadvertently create loops in the LAN
topology, so we don't want uninitiated users running into it when
they're really trying to set up the more usual bridge mode.


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Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet

2008-08-04 Thread johndewey

Yea, i understand the topology problem and making sure everything stays
user proof.  I just put up a entry on the Bugzilla site and it
describes a way to have the receiver seamlessly make the feature
available, based on its ability to reach the 'server' ip over one or
the network interface.  

As for bridging primarily being discussed for the Controller, maybe
that makes sense from your close up developer/creator perspective.  It
is a bit of a stretch from the user side - it is still unclear to the
well informed forum participants if the controller is talking to
SqueezeCenter or the Receiver, and doing it directly with the Receiver
on a hidden adhoc connection, or it is going through the established
wireless router and SSID to get there.  I understood it once, but seem
to have forgotten which way it goes now.  Anyway, maybe the Bugzilla
entry is of some help, otherwise thanks for responding.

John


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[slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet

2008-08-03 Thread johndewey

frustration, arg. 
someone, please tell me there is an easier way to get wireless bridging
working than learning the perl/svn tool set?  i just spent the afternoon
sifting through some 2000 hits in google on the wireless bridge feature,
all but a handful being blissfully ignorant praises in various reviews. 



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Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet

2008-08-03 Thread dean

Can you describe the problem you are having in a little more detail?  

It should just work, but if it doesn't, let us know how we can
help...


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Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet

2008-08-03 Thread johndewey

reasonable enough. 
here is the situation:

I have a duet controller and receiver working fine in wireless mode
using either squeeze network or squeeze center.

i want to use the receiver as a bridge and on the receiver side, place
either my NAS or initially a wired print print server.  

i connect the cable between the print server and the receiver. hold
down the button on the front until it blinks read.  after booting up
receiver ethernet lights up orange with blinking green.  same with
print server.  

i ping the receiver, everything is fine.
i ping the print server, no response.  if i move the print server and
ping it on a wired connection, it works.  print server has a fixed ip
on the same top three ip segments (xxx.xxx.xxx.ip)

also, after the early mentioned rebooting of the receiver and using the
controller to re-setup the receiver, thecontroller gives me the option
of a wireless or Ethernet connection, which it does not normally do if
nothing is plugged into the receiver's Ethernet socket.

so, i believe that the receiver sees the print server, and establishes
a valid Ethernet connection to it, regardless of the use of a crossover
cable.  I also believe that the print server is not 'bridged' onto my
wireless network, though the receiver clearly is.  thus the bridge
connection is not working.

so, i go a'googling to see what i can learn, and hidden among the
thousands of reviews touting the bridging feature, i find a few pages
about a program called something like net:udp that a few people are
discussing as a way to 'turn on' the bridging feature.  this is a perl
shell program, whatever that is, that some fearless person has
developed to get this working.  i try to install perl on my computer
which seems to work, but am less than ignorant about it.  i find a few
perl scripts on the net:udp program site and down load them and try to
run them.  i have no clue what i am doing and i can not get it
working, and am thus frustrated.  regardless, i am not really happy
about having to learn perl when this feature ought to be automatic, or
at least easily turned on via the controller or squeezecenter.  

thanks for your speedy response,and thanks for reading through to the
end of my long post. at some other time i will re-install perl and
regenerate the error messages and seek help.  hopefully this setting
will be user accessible before i end up doing that again.

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Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet

2008-08-03 Thread Peter
johndewey wrote:
 reasonable enough. 
 here is the situation:

 I have a duet controller and receiver working fine in wireless mode
 using either squeeze network or squeeze center.

 i want to use the receiver as a bridge and on the receiver side, place
 either my NAS or initially a wired print print server.  

 i connect the cable between the print server and the receiver. hold
 down the button on the front until it blinks read.  after booting up
 receiver ethernet lights up orange with blinking green.  same with
 print server.  

 i ping the receiver, everything is fine.
 i ping the print server, no response.  if i move the print server and
 ping it on a wired connection, it works.  print server has a fixed ip
 on the same top three ip segments (xxx.xxx.xxx.ip)

 also, after the early mentioned rebooting of the receiver and using the
 controller to re-setup the receiver, thecontroller gives me the option
 of a wireless or Ethernet connection, which it does not normally do if
 nothing is plugged into the receiver's Ethernet socket.

 so, i believe that the receiver sees the print server, and establishes
 a valid Ethernet connection to it, regardless of the use of a crossover
 cable.  I also believe that the print server is not 'bridged' onto my
 wireless network, though the receiver clearly is.  thus the bridge
 connection is not working.

 so, i go a'googling to see what i can learn, and hidden among the
 thousands of reviews touting the bridging feature, i find a few pages
 about a program called something like net:udp that a few people are
 discussing as a way to 'turn on' the bridging feature.  this is a perl
 shell program, whatever that is, that some fearless person has
 developed to get this working.  i try to install perl on my computer
 which seems to work, but am less than ignorant about it.  i find a few
 perl scripts on the net:udp program site and down load them and try to
 run them.  i have no clue what i am doing and i can not get it
 working, and am thus frustrated.  regardless, i am not really happy
 about having to learn perl when this feature ought to be automatic, or
 at least easily turned on via the controller or squeezecenter.  

 thanks for your speedy response,and thanks for reading through to the
 end of my long post. at some other time i will re-install perl and
 regenerate the error messages and seek help.  hopefully this setting
 will be user accessible before i end up doing that again.
   

I don't see any bridging functionality advertised on 
http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_duet.html#network

For an undocumented feature having to use Perl to access it is not too 
bad, is it?

Regards,
Peter

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[slim] Wireless Bridge Yamaha Network Receiver

2008-07-29 Thread spinaltap

Here's a strange one to solve, one that even technical support cannot
fathom (but they thought you guys might have the answer)...

Before I bought my SB3 I routinely listened to internet radio via my
Yamaha RX-V2700 Network Receiver - connected to an Apple Airport
Express (N) via ethernet (which acted as an ethernet bridge) that
received streams from my Netgear DG834N router. Moreover, no problem
was encountered in setting-up this system.

I purchased the SB3 due to the inflexibility of the v.Tuner software
inherent in the Yamaha receiver. That is, stations such as
SmoothJazz.Com could only be heard at 44kbps via the Yamaha and with no
option to seek a higher bit-rate stream.

Reason suggests that the SB3 would act as a wireless bridge to for the
Yamaha unit in the same manner as the Airport Express. You might
wonder, why bother? In response, the SB3 blows the internal Yamaha
internet radio out of the water - but I'm a dog with a bone between his
teeth; I would simply like the Yamaha receiver to work fully as it did
before.

The problem is that the Yamaha will not make a connection with the SB3
working as a wireless bridge in the same way that the Apple Airport
Express did. To ensure that the wireless bridge in the SB3 is working
normally, I borrowed a Windoze laptop and switched-off its wireless
functionality. Connected via ethernet, the SB3 acted as normal as a
wireless bridge.

The MAC address (and ip address) of the Yamaha and the SB3 have been
entered into the Netgear router's set-up  pane - as usual - but no luck
in making the vital through-connection.

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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge Yamaha Network Receiver

2008-07-29 Thread 4mula1

Are you using a straight ethernet cable or a crossover cable?  If the
ethernet port on the Yamaha is not autosensing you will need a
crossover cable.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge Yamaha Network Receiver

2008-07-29 Thread spinaltap

Yep, I've always used a crossover cable. 

Moreover, I've also tried using a standard ethernet cable.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2008-04-24 Thread dloose

I'm just curious -
If maximum bandwidth of .11g is 54 Mb/s and typical throughput is about
19 Mb/s, why does the SB v3 seem to top out at 3-5 Mb/sec (at least
using the built-in test plug-in)? I'm using the SB in bridge mode to a
Denon 3808CI and get not-infrequent drop-outs.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2008-04-24 Thread Mark Lanctot

dloose;295205 Wrote: 
 why does the SB v3 seem to top out at 3-5 Mb/sec (at least using the
 built-in test plug-in)?

It doesn't, that's just the network test plugin's maximum.  Streaming
audio files, you'll never need to go higher than about 5 Mbps, which
would be 24/96 WAV (4608 kbps).


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[slim] Wireless Bridge Capability with SqueezeCenter

2008-04-19 Thread anonymouse

Am I missing something or is the capability to do wireless bridging (I
am using Squeezebox V3) gone with SqueezeCenter 7.0?

If it's there, can someone point me to where the setting is buried?

Thanks in advance...


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge Capability with SqueezeCenter

2008-04-19 Thread peterw

That's a firmware feature of the Squeezebox, not a SqueezeCenter
feature. It works fine with SqueezeCenter 7 and the Squeezebox firmware
that SC7 prefers. This wiki page explains what you need to do:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign
The step most people forget is to connect the other device to the
Squeezebox *before* holding the left arrow on the remote. If the
Squeezebox doesn't have an active Ethernet link to another device, it
won't let you enable bridging.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge Capability with SqueezeCenter

2008-04-19 Thread anonymouse

peterw;293430 Wrote: 
 That's a firmware feature of the Squeezebox, not a SqueezeCenter
 feature. It works fine with SqueezeCenter 7 and the Squeezebox firmware
 that SC7 prefers. This wiki page explains what you need to do:
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign
 The step most people forget is to connect the other device to the
 Squeezebox *before* holding the left arrow on the remote. If the
 Squeezebox doesn't have an active Ethernet link to another device, it
 won't let you enable bridging.

Ah, thanks... I never knew this. It was just a coincidence that it
worked the first time...


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge the other way around

2008-03-11 Thread robbin

Why wouldn't this work in ad hoc mode?


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge the other way around

2008-03-11 Thread hunta

Why wouldn't this work in ad hoc mode?

Because, I think, the Squeezebox isn't broadcasting a wireless signal.
It's not an access point, just a bridge. My understanding is that the
wireless bridge only allows cabled devices to hook on to a wireless
network (i.e. the Squeezebox is receiving wirelessly, then pushing out
via the cable port).


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge the other way around

2008-03-11 Thread funkstar

robbin;278518 Wrote: 
 Why wouldn't this work in ad hoc mode?
because it doesn't have the software to allow devices to connect to it
and then relay the data over the network. Which is just another way of
saying it doesn't have the software to be an AP :)


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge the other way around

2008-03-10 Thread funkstar

You don't need to use the bridging function for this.

All control is done though SqueezeCenter, just open a web browser and
point it to http://imac-ip-address:9000/ and you will get the web
interface from your iMac.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge the other way around

2008-03-10 Thread dudesinmexico

Maybe I was not clear enough... I want to use a wi-fi enabled laptop to
connect to the Squeezebox wi-fi antenna. I have a wi-fi router in the
bedroom but the laptop does not pick up the signal in the living room.
I know that the Squeezebox has this bridging capability, so it would be
nice to use it.

Thanks!


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[slim] Wireless bridge the other way around

2008-03-09 Thread dudesinmexico

My Squeezebox is connected to an iMac running SqueezeCenter through a
ethernet-over-power adapter. I would like to control the Squeezebox
with
my laptop via wi-fi. Is there a way to configure the Squeezebox as a
bridge in this way?


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2008-01-27 Thread hau

seanadams;262463 Wrote: 
 I am looking at our bridging implementation, and it is designed to
 forward to all ports in the event of a unicast packet whose MAC is not
 in its table. It is not clear to me if this is our problem or if
 something else is going on, so I am hesitant to open a bug without
 knowing any specifics.
 
 It would be helpful to know whether the access point is actually
 sending the packet out to the wireless lan in the first place. To test
 that, put a wireless PC on it and run ethereal. I am not sure but I
 think you can monitor unicast traffic to other hosts that way without
 any special setup - you probably would need to disable encryption.

I was so happy getting the thing to work, that I thought of not doing
any further investigations. But, as you seem to be concerned, I took my
laptop and started testing.

Based on my non-scientific approach, it seems that the access point
(ADSL-modem w/ WLAN) is the one to blame! So, I'd say that there is no
need dig further on SB3's bridging implementation.

As I had windump already installed, I used it on two machines, other
being on the LAN and the other on WLAN. On ADSL modem I had two IP
addresses with static ARP, the other with the real one and the other
with MAC broadcast. Then I changed several times the IP address where
the modem should forward the WOL-packet coming from dslreports.com. Not
a single packet appeared on the WLAN with the real MAC address, but when
I changed the address to the broadcast MAC, they were nicely printed out
on the screen of the laptop on WLAN. All packets of course were received
by the PC on LAN.

I will make a note for the tech guys at ADSL modem manufacturer.

Best regards,
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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-25 Thread Mark Lanctot

Siduhe;261365 Wrote: 
 If people think it's helpful, they could always amend up the wiki too:
 http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign

Done, but newbies don't seem to like or use the wiki.  :-(


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2008-01-25 Thread hau

seanadams;262284 Wrote: 
 Hmm. So here's an idea: try making that static ARP entry point to the
 broadcast MAC: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF. 
 
 This is a very strange and generally inadviseable thing as if it works,
 it will let someone on the internet create broadcast traffic on your
 LAN. However it would be an interesting test to do, although it is
 possible that your router will (justifiably) refuse to send the packet
 to the broadcast MAC via a static ARP entry. However if it works then
 maybe firewalling that port to only allow your remote IP to reach it
 would be acceptable to you.
 

The idea was more than interesting to test, it also worked. Thank you
very much!

I will have to go thru of course the security issues. (Security by
obscurity might not be enough...) The firewall allows me to restrict
outside connections to my LAN, so that shouldn't be a problem.

seanadams;262284 Wrote: 
 
 Another thing to try would be to use a port redirect to send it to the
 broadcast IP, usually X.X.X.255.

That was my first idea, but (not surprisingly) the router configuration
interface didn't allow that.

Best regards,
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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2008-01-25 Thread seanadams

I am looking at our bridging implementation, and it is designed to
forward to all ports in the event of a unicast packet whose MAC is not
in its table. It is not clear to me if this is our problem or if
something else is going on, so I am hesitant to open a bug without
knowing any specifics.

It would be helpful to know whether the access point is actually
sending the packet out to the wireless lan in the first place. To test
that, put a wireless PC on it and run ethereal. I am not sure but I
think you can monitor unicast traffic to other hosts that way - you
probably would need to disable encryption.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2008-01-24 Thread hau

seanadams;172362 Wrote: 
 When the SB3 is operating in bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on
 the ethernet side and who is on the wireless side - it knows where to
 send a packet. 
 

What happens when it doesn't know who's on which side? 

Reason I'm asking this, is that I'm trying to use WOL to wake up my
living room PC from internet (using e.g. dslreports.com's wakeup
service http://www.dslreports.com/wakeup). 

If I send a WOL magic packet from my local net it of course spreads via
WLAN to SB3 and, as it is a broadcast packet, SB3 forwards it to the
ethernet port and the PC wakes up.

When I'm using the dslreports' 'service' the packet comes to my network
as a _unicast_ packet. I have configured my ADSL-modem/router with
static ARP for the PC, and a rule to forward UDP port 9 packets to the
PC's IP address.

When I've connected the PC to one of the ADSL-modem/router's ethernet
ports send the packet from internet, my PC wakes up. 

When I place the PC on SB3's ethernet port and send the packet from the
same site the PC stays powered off.

In my understanding there might be two reasons for this. 
- Either the ADSL device forgets to forward the packet to WLAN along
with all the ethernet ports, or 
- SB3 drops the packet as it doesn't know that the addressee is on its
ethernet port. 

After some email exchange with the tech guys from modem manufacturer,
they assure me that all packets that are distributed to the ethernet
ports will also be sent to WLAN. If this is the case, then the SB3
drops the packet and I'd like to know whether it would be possible to
change the behavior of SB3's IP stack in such a way, that if it doesn't
know (no entry in ARP table?) the recipients 'location' on the net, it
would forward the packet?

Best regards,
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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2008-01-24 Thread seanadams

hau;262108 Wrote: 
 What happens when it doesn't know who's on which side? 
 

The WOL packet is a broadcast so it shouldn't matter, but to answer
your question I believe if it doesn't know it will behave like a hub
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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2008-01-24 Thread hau

seanadams;262142 Wrote: 
 The WOL packet is a broadcast so it shouldn't matter, but to answer your
 question I believe if it doesn't know it will behave like a hub and send
 it to all ports.

The problem is that the packet which is sent from the internet is
otherwise structured as a WOL packet, but in fact is a UDP packet sent
to a certain address (unicast). (My ADSL router then forwards it
internally to the specified address.) 

I have now used windump (tcpdump) and found out that the packet
actually comes to my net and is destined to the right IP. I hope to
find a PC with wireless card for the weekend to check that the packet
is also sent over the air. Then, I think, it is easier to track down
the problem.

Cheers,
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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2008-01-24 Thread seanadams

hau;262161 Wrote: 
 The problem is that the packet which is sent from the internet is
 otherwise structured as a WOL packet, but in fact is a UDP packet sent
 to a certain address (unicast). (My ADSL router then forwards it
 internally to the specified address.) 
 

Hmm. So here's an idea: try making that static ARP entry point to the
broadcast MAC: FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF. 

This is a very strange and generally inadviseable thing as if it works,
it will let someone on the internet create broadcast traffic on your
LAN. However it would be an interesting test to do, although it is
possible that your router will (justifiably) refuse to send the packet
to the broadcast MAC via a static ARP entry. However if it works then
maybe firewalling that port to only allow your remote IP to reach it
would be acceptable to you.

Another thing to try would be to use a port redirect to send it to the
broadcast IP, usually X.X.X.255.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-22 Thread Peter

seanadams wrote:
bulletmark;261287 Wrote: 
  

Rather than fix the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks
the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not?



Because setup is far too long already, and most newbies won't have a
clue what bridging means. It may help to pop up the option is
ethernet is plugged in post-setup, but prompting every single user
about a feature they probably won't recognize, much less want, would
not be good.
  


Still, I've seen people confused about how to enable bridging in here 
lots of times. I think I had trouble myself the first time. What 
problems could it cause  if bridging was enabled by default? Are there 
conceivable network configurations where an SB is connected via both 
wired and wireless and bridging would not be desired?


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-22 Thread Siduhe

It is in the FAQ (see 'here'
(http://slimdevices.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/slimdevices.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5997p_created=1168549341p_sid=f8t7YnWip_accessibility=0p_redirect=p_lva=p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MSwxJnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9YnJpZGdpbmc*p_li=p_topview=1)).

If people think it's helpful, they could always amend up the wiki too:
http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-22 Thread radish

It's also on page 20 of the manual. It doesn't explicitly say that the
cable must be connected to see the option, but if you follow the steps
in the instructions exactly it will work :)


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-22 Thread bobkoure

Peter;261359 Wrote: 
 Are there conceivable network configurations where an SB is connected
 via both wired and wireless and bridging would not be desired?
 
Bridging a network segment to itself can indeed cause some problems.
Folks who have had their network setup by the ISP, and who opt for
wireless have everything on one segment - and at least some of the
firewall/routers supplied by the ISPs don't detect bad bridging.
So it'd be problems for the folks least able to just whip out a sniffer
and figure out what's gone wrong (and detecting improper bridging can be
hard even with a sniffer).

IMHO, best to do what they did - but doc it, and maybe add a are you
REALLY sure? additional right-arrow needed in the setup.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-22 Thread thing-fish

seanadams;261337 Wrote: 
 Because setup is far too long already, and most newbies won't have a
 clue what bridging means. It may help to pop up the option is
 ethernet is plugged in post-setup, but prompting every single user
 about a feature they probably won't recognize, much less want, would
 not be good.

Having to go turn it back on every time I use it is also painful though
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[slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread Espen

I have read here and there that Squeezebox also acts as wireless
bridge. I did a quick test last evening without luck.
When I connected my music server to an SB3 it failed to aquire an IP
address on boot. The DHCP server did not log any attempts either.

The SB3 unix is connected to a Linksys WRT54G with WPA, but the Linksys
unit is not the DHCP server itself. The WRT54G is connected to a regular
wired 3com router with an embedded DHCP server.

Is it worth examining a bit more or is this a dead end? Would it help
with a fixed IP? I do not quite remember now, but I think the firmware
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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread radish

It works great, I use it a lot. You need to make sure of a few things:

Use a crossover cable (unless the NIC on the server is auto-sensing)
Make sure bridging is enabled - go back through network setup with the
server connected via ethernet and you will see the option to enable it.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread Espen

Thanks. Works as it should. Had not noticed the bridge option in the
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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread seanadams

Espen;261108 Wrote: 
 Thanks. Works as it should. Had not noticed the bridge option in the
 setup menu before.

The option is only offered if you choose wireless setup AND an ethernet
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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread bulletmark

seanadams;261109 Wrote: 
 The option is only offered if you choose wireless setup AND an ethernet
 link is detected.
Aha, that's the trick. From a newbie here, this should be in the
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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread bulletmark

Actually, thinking about it, scratch that suggestion of mine above.
Rather than fix the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks
the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not?

Surely that is simpler for all? Then you won't have newbies like me 
wondering why the hell the question was not presented and spending ages
looking for it around the menus and then finally finding the answer in
the depths of these forums. After all, most aren't like me ... they
don't actually read the manual at all.


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread Mitch Harding
One possible reason not to always ask it is because I'm guessing that
most people do not use this feature, and it may even confuse some
people who do not know what it means.  SD may figure that anyone who
understands the feature will be sufficiently motivated to research how
to set it up.

That said, if it's not in the manual, it would be nice to have it in
there.  I've never read my manual, so I'm not sure what's in there.
:)

On Jan 21, 2008 5:54 PM, bulletmark
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, thinking about it, scratch that suggestion of mine above.
 Rather than fix the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks
 the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not?

 Surely that is simpler for all? Then you won't have newbies like me
 wondering why the hell the question was not presented and spending ages
 looking for it around the menus and then finally finding the answer in
 the depths of these forums. After all, most aren't like me ... they
 don't actually read the manual at all.



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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread bulletmark

Mitch Harding;261302 Wrote: 
 One possible reason not to always ask it is because I'm guessing that
 most people do not use this feature, and it may even confuse some
 people who do not know what it means.  SD may figure that anyone who
 understands the feature will be sufficiently motivated to research how
 to set it up.
 
C'mon, with all the other complicated network questions in there, is
one more really going to make much difference? Also, to somebody
sufficiently unmotivated to understand what that last question means,
then is it really going to matter which way he answers it anyhow?

And yes, certainly at the end of the day, somebody like me shouldn't
have to scratch his head and go to the forums to find the simple
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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?

2008-01-21 Thread seanadams

bulletmark;261287 Wrote: 
 Rather than fix the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks
 the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not?

Because setup is far too long already, and most newbies won't have a
clue what bridging means. It may help to pop up the option is
ethernet is plugged in post-setup, but prompting every single user
about a feature they probably won't recognize, much less want, would
not be good.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge Setup problem

2007-12-07 Thread Mark Lanctot

sand;247534 Wrote: 
 Also, must I have the laptop that I'm planning to connect attached while
 enabliing it?

Yes, that's the issue.  It must see something on the wireless side. 
Once you tell it to connect wirelessly but it sees something on the
wired side it will ask you if you want to bridge.

Also you may have to use a crossover cable if you're connecting a
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[slim] Wireless Bridge Setup problem

2007-12-07 Thread sand

Hi all,
I can't find where to enable the Wireless Bridge on my SB3.
I've tried unplugging and then going through the network installation
steps again, but I don't get the option to enable it!
Please, exactly how should I do?
Also, must I have the laptop that I'm planning to connect attached
while enabliing it?
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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge DHCP Problems Solved?

2007-11-25 Thread allisong

I have the exact same problem when using WPA-2 and DHCP on the bridged
Ethernet, all other security settings are OK.

It is at the key refresh time the error occurs, after that the DHCP
does not work beyond the bridge


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[slim] Wireless bridge w DOS client half works

2007-10-29 Thread DanielTheGreat

I'm sorry if the following paragraphs seem to jump around a little. 
I've copied them from my Logitech support e-mails (over a period of
weeks), with no solution from the support team.  They suggested I try
the forum.  Sorry about the length of this post too, but describing
everything I've tried might save a bit of to-and-froing.  I've done
minimal edits to try to improve the flow...

The touch-screen PC that I've programmed to control my (complex!) audio
system runs DOS 6.22 with Microsoft NET Client V3.11. In my previous
house I had this connected to my main (Win2000) PC via Cat5 cable.
Because there is no TCP/IP utility with NET (I found later there is -
see below), I accessed this touch PC using NetBIOS (in both
directions).
Having recently moved to a new house, I was hoping to avoid running a
cable between floors by using the wireless bridge facility of my
recently-acquired Squeezebox 3.
I connected the touch-PC to the Squeezebox via a crossover cable, and
the green light on the touch-PC indicates it has a hardware ethernet
connection. I enabled wirelss bridging on the Squeezebox, but I don't
get a network connection in either direction between the two PCs (but
things improved - see later).

OK, I finally found time to spend on this problem. I found
information on the 'net that eventually (after many hours!) allowed me
to get TCP/IP running on my DOS machine (using
Microsoft drivers, as it happens - there's a bug in their installation
procedure that omits a vital file!).

When that DOS PC is plugged directly into my wireless router (wired
Ethernet port) I can still share resources between the
two machines (my main PC runs Win2K, remember), moving files between
them for example (only in a DOS window on the Win2K
machine). I could also 'ping' my Win machine from the DOS machine,
getting a response:
[1] echo received from 192.168.1.1 with roundtrip  50 msec

But when I take the DOS machine back upstairs and plug it into the
Squeezebox, it fails to establish the 'shares' that
succeed when directly connected. But I can still ping the Win2K
machine, with the same (successful) result as above.

On the DOS machine, DHCP was enabled (not now - see below), but caused
problems.  So I've now changed the Touch-PC's network configuration to
use a fixed IP address, and then done some more tests. To simplify the
following discussion, I will refer to each PC by its network name: HIFI
is the DOS-based touch PC (running Microsoft Network Client 3.11)
wireless bridged via a Squeezebox 3, and ADVSOL5 is the Win2K machine
with a wireless router attached (also the network 'gateway', though I
don't think this is relevant, since I'm not wanting to access anything
other than Advsol5 from HiFi). 

When HiFi and Advsol5 are connected by Ethernet cable (via a wired
Ethernet port in the back of the wireless router), HiFi 'connects' to
Advsol5 OK during boot-up (can then access Advsol5's disc drives and
printer), and Advsol5 also connects with HiFi (can access HiFi's
drives). Keep in mind that accessing HiFi from Advsol5 always requires
opening a DOS window and using only DOS commands – if I try to look at
HiFi drives via Windows Explorer (the HiFi name does appear in the list
of networked computers) it causes an error saying something like 'this
network function not supported'. 

I can ping successfully in both directions. On HiFi I have both NetBEUI
and TCP/IP protocols enabled. If I disable NetBEUI (leaving TCP/IP as
the ONLY protocol), HiFi then won't connect with Advsol5's drives or
printer. This would suggest (to a novice like me) that the protocol
being used between them is 'NetBEUI over TCP/IP'. I found the following
information on a website about OS/2 networking (I think most of this is
relevant to DOS too): 

NetBIOS (NetBEUI) over TCP/IP (called TCPBEUI on OS/2) 
* Implementation of NetBIOS to operate with TCP/IP as transport
mechanism 
* Defined by RFCs 1001 and 1002 
* Solves the need to route a non-routable protocol 
* Encapsulates NetBEUI data in a TCP/IP or UDP/IP frame 
* Three modes of operation - Broadcast, Point-to-Point, and
Mixed/Hybrid 
* Service: NetBIOS Name Server (NBNS) 
* Service: NetBIOS Datagram Distribution (NBDD) 

So having got the WIRED LAN running to my satisfaction with fixed IP
address on HiFi, it was back upstairs to try it over the Squeezebox
wireless bridge again. At boot-up, HiFi failed to 'connect' to
Advsol5's resources (drives  printer). But I could still successfully
ping Advsol5, and now the ping also succeeded in the reverse direction.
Furthermore, although HiFi couldn't access any Advsol5 resources (since
they weren't 'connected'), Advsol5 could now access HiFi's drives! 

On Advsol5, HiFi's drives are given substitute names:
\\hifi\c: - T:,
\\hifi\d: - U:
This drive assignment is done with the following DOS commands on
Advsol5: 
net use t: \\hifi\c
net use u: \\hifi\d 
(having instructed HiFi [in its AUTOEXEC.BAT] to share its C: drive as
'c' and D: drive as 'd') 

With a wired 

Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge?

2007-08-11 Thread jth

You can flash your WRT54GL with third-party firmware, like dd-wrt, and
boost the power and range of the access point. I think on the highest
safe setting, you'd have no problem getting a signal in even a very
large house (unless you have unusual interior features).


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[slim] Wireless Bridge?

2007-08-10 Thread Doukg Walch

Please bear with me becauses my terminology is not so great. I recently
ordered a squeeze box for a house we recently moved into. There is no
way to run cat 5 in this house and our office is at one end of the
house and the entertainment center is at the other end of the house. 
In anticipation of connecting to the SB I ordered a Linksys Wireless
Broadband G router (WRT54GL). 

So while I sit here waiting for everything to arrive, including my
internet service provider, it occured to me today that since I have
cable outlets in both location, in the event I don't have a strong
enough signal, perhaps I could install a cable modem at both ends of
the house, with wireless routers at both ends of the house and I think
I wojld then then have a bridged network, with the wireless signal
overlapping, providing a better signal to the SB. But the specifics of
this escape me.  So my questions are:

1) is this practical?
2) if so, on SB side of the house, can I then plug the SB into the
router via cat 5, and control it via the wireless bridge?  Or, would it
be better to leave the SB in wireless mode.
3) Assuming this is doable, can someone provide good reference material
to read on how to configure this?

Of course all this assumes I can get two cable modems installed which i
neeed to confirm with my provider.  But I thought I'd ask the question
here first.  I'm sure there are good wireless forums to help with this,
but again, I've gotten good help here so i thought i start here first.

Thanks!

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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge?

2007-08-10 Thread Mark Lanctot

I'm no networking expert, but I've never heard of such an arrangement. 
Your ISP may or may not go for it - they may want to sell you two
connections.  You probably won't be able to do this with one
connection, usually they restrict you to one IP address so to get two
cable modems, you need two IP addresses and two connections - two times
the cost.

Also I don't believe wireless networking can work that way.  The
networks would be competing, not cooperating.  If you set them to the
same channel with the same SSID they'd conflict with each other and the
SB would connect to the strongest one, one at a time, not both.

If you're looking at something this complex, it would be cheaper and
more effective to get powerline adapters, which use your high-power
wiring as networking cables.  But, try out your WRT54GL first.  If you
can't get enough signal, you can return the wireless router and get
powerline adapters.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge?

2007-08-10 Thread Doukg Walch

Thanks so much for the response. I'm definately not a network expert,
which is why I asked the quesiton. I'll try the WRT54GL first, which
was plan A, and if that doesn't work look into power line adapters and
what ever other options there may be.

I really appreciate this forum.

Thanks again.


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[slim] Wireless bridge and firmware versions

2007-07-27 Thread Beann50

Is there a record of how the wireless network card config has changed in
the different SB firmware versions?  I'm using a SB2 connected via cat5
to a Linkstation with the wireless card in the SB also configured to
connect to a wireless network when it is available.  Slimsever is
currently at 6.2.1.  If the wireless network is not available, the SB
gives up looking for it and the connection to the Linstation works
fine.  When the wireless network is available, the connection to the
Linkstation still works and I'm able to copy songs to it over the
wireless.

Using newer versions of Slimserver and the firmware that gets loaded on
the SB2 causes the SB to give up on power up because it can't find the
wireless network.  The only way to get it to connect is to go through
the process of enabling and disabling the wireless card as needed.  I'd
like to upgrade Slimserver for the new features and bug fixes and I'd
like newer firmware on the SB2 so it will work with WPA.  I haven't
tried any versions of Slimserver past 6.2.2 on this setup since the
wireless functionality was changed in that version.


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[slim] Wireless Bridge No Longer Works

2007-07-04 Thread macattack

I have an SB2 and an SB3 which are running firmware 81 with SlimServer
6.5.2 (on a NAS); before the upgrade from 6.5.1, I was able to
successfully use my SB2 as a wireless bridge, simply connecting my
ethernet cable to my TViX 5000 box from my Squeezebox, pure joy! After
the upgrade, no such luck. If I fire up my squeezebox and hold power to
get into the settings, I see under current settings that the wireless
ethernet bridge is set to NO, however, I see no way to change this.
Suggestions?


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge No Longer Works

2007-07-04 Thread Mark Lanctot

You may want to reset to factory defaults, although this means you'll
have to re-enter your encryption key.  Unplug power, press and hold
ADD then reconnect power.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working

2007-04-27 Thread bogomipz

seanadams;197794 Wrote: 
 No, the bridge is smart and send packets to the right place. That is, by
 definition, what bridges do. If it didn't send them to the right place,
 it would get stuck in a loop because the packets would just come right
 back and it wouldn't know what to do with them any better than it did
 the first time around!

Thanks, good to know. I see now that since it has to be smart about the
packets coming in over wireless, there's no reason why it should be
stupid about the ones coming from ethernet.

I moved my server from my wireless router to the SB last night, and
will run like this for two reasons:

1) The broadband connection in my apartment is placed in the bed room.
This means that my wireless router also sits there, and because of hard
drive noise I have been forced to power down my SlimServer at night.
Moving the server to my SB in the living room should allow it to run
24/7.

2) Once in a while the wireless strength has been too weak for the SB
to stream smoothly.

By the way, there's one little glitch in the network setup wizard on
the SB3 (firmware 72) that made me move the server back and forth a
couple of times. The option for enabling wireless bridging comes after
Connect to SlimServer, which means that there is no way to enable
bridging while the server is connected to the ethernet port. To make it
work, I had to move the server back to the wireless router and connect a
random computer to the ethernet port before I was able to turn bridging
on. Then I could remove the dummy computer, move the server to the SB
again, and continue my life. I would think this whole issue would
disappear if the bridging option was before Connect to SlimServer in
the network setup.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working

2007-04-26 Thread bogomipz

Michael Herger;190252 Wrote: 
 some have even been bridging their slimserver machine through a SB to
 the rest of the network - which isn't good for your performance, but
 does work

Why is this bad for performance? This should rather be an optimal
configuration. The SB has direct connection to the server, and the
server can once in a while be accessed through SSH over the bridged
wireless network.

Do the packets between server and SB go out over the wireless and back
because the SB is too stupid to realize this is not necessary? If
that's the case, would it be possible to fix this in the firmware?

Also, does choosing Connect to an ethernet network make any
difference since the SlimServer is at the other end of the ethernet?
And does wireless bridging then work at all?

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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working

2007-04-26 Thread seanadams

bogomipz;197787 Wrote: 
 Why is this bad for performance? This should rather be an optimal
 configuration. The SB has direct connection to the server, and the
 server can once in a while be accessed through SSH over the bridged
 wireless network.

That's correct, this is wired to the server, so it is ideal in terms of
the connectivity between the server and the SB. 

 Do the packets between server and SB go out over the wireless and back
 because the SB is too stupid to realize this is not necessary? If
 that's the case, would it be possible to fix this in the firmware?

No, the bridge is smart and send packets to the right place. That is,
by definition, what bridges do. If it didn't send them to the right
place, it would get stuck in a loop because the packets would just come
right back and it wouldn't know what to do with them any better than it
did the first time around!

 Also, does choosing Connect to an ethernet network make any difference
 since the SlimServer is at the other end of the ethernet? And does
 wireless bridging then work at all?

If you choose Connect to Ethernet then you will bypass all the
wireless settings, so no bridging is possible and it won't be offered.


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[slim] Wireless bridge

2007-04-09 Thread tsingle999

I am trying to bridge my slingbox thru my sb3 using a ruckus router. i
go thru all the steps (enabling the bridge, connecting to network) but
it wont get an ip address (dhcp)at the end how can i fix this?


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge

2007-04-09 Thread pza

I had the same problem.  See the following thread:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34191


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[slim] Wireless Bridge and home working

2007-03-26 Thread DAL

Hi All,

Just bought a SB3 and have to say I am very impressed !

A quick question re the Wireless Bridge feature. If I buy another
wireless SB3 for a remote room could I plug my laptop via Ethernet in
to the SB3 and use it to access the Internet for home working via my
wireless ADSL Router?

I know the manual says you can connect home gaming but I would like to
VPN to my work email using this feature.

Thanks in advance
D.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working

2007-03-26 Thread Michael Herger
 A quick question re the Wireless Bridge feature. If I buy another
 wireless SB3 for a remote room could I plug my laptop via Ethernet in
 to the SB3 and use it to access the Internet for home working via my
 wireless ADSL Router?

Your another SB is confusing me... this is already possible with the  
first SB?!?

The idea of the bridging feature is to allow a non-wireless device connect  
to a wireless network. Whether this is a gaming console or your business  
laptop doesn't matter. (some have even been bridging their slimserver  
machine through a SB to the rest of the network - which isn't good for  
your performance, but does work).

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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working

2007-03-26 Thread DAL

Thanks, Misworded the addtional SB3 interms of putting it a different
room to my first unit, but as you say I could plug the laptop in to
either of my SB3's

This is great news for me.

Cheers
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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working

2007-03-26 Thread 4mula1

A quick note about bridging is that by default it is not enabled.  Once
you have a device plugged into the ethernet port you will have to run
the network configuration on the Squeezebox again and the option to
enable bridging will show up.  Once bridging is on you won't have to
run the config to enable it again.


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge DHCP Problems Solved?

2007-03-13 Thread tsingle999

i still cant seem to get myslingbox connected. it was connected when i
had an unsecured network. when i changed i cant get a dhcp address...


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2007-02-14 Thread bludragon

So the last thing I tried was to power the router on last, but that
didn't help.  Does anyone know why the router might be breaking the
'bridging' of the sb?  I would have thought it should be completely
passive.  I can't really use this configuration without a router, or a
switch in place - not sure if a different router, or a switch instead
would work.

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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2007-02-12 Thread bludragon

I'm not using ad-hoc mode either.  I tried downgrading to the firmware
with slimserver 6.5.0 (FW 65 I think), turned bridging off, then back
on, and it didn't work, then FW 55 (6.3.1), and it still didn't work. 
When going back to FW 55 I needed to re-enter the WPA key.

I didn't have much time to play with it, but the symptoms were the same
in all cases - if I set the ip of the wired server manually, I can ping
the squeezebox, but nothing on the wireless network, and the squeezebox
cannot connect to the server.

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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2007-02-09 Thread bludragon

seanadams;172362 Wrote: 
 That is not what should happen at all. When the SB3 is operating in
 bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on the ethernet side and who is
 on the wireless side - it knows where to send a packet. 
 
 Telling it to connect wirelessly just means that you want to configure
 the wireless interface, but when bridging is enabled, both interfaces
 are equal. In fact it is equivalent to a three-port ethernet switch.
 One interface is the ethernet port, one is the wireless port, and one
 is virtually connected to the SB3's IP stack.
 
 So although that setup sounds convoluted, it really isn't... as far as
 the internal bridge is concerned, there is nothing unusual about it,
 and at the IP level none of it is even visible.


I enabled bridging last night, with the hope of creating the following
network:

wireless internet gateway/router -- wireless -- sb2 -- wire --
hub -- wire -- slimserver

Both the sb and server were set to use DHCP, with the router supplying
ip addresses etc.  Squeezebox connected to the network ok, and could
connect to squeezenetwork, but not my own server.  Meanwhile my server
did not get DHCP.  Setting it's ip manually (to use the router as a
gateway) meant it could ping the squeezebox, but not access the
internet, or be accessed by the squeezebox.  I'm using slimserver 6.5.1
with matching firmware

At that point I gave up thinking this type of scenario simply hadn't
been tested, but that the solution would be exactly what Sean has
described above.

Having now read Sean's post, I'm keen to hear any ideas as to where I
might have gone wrong?

One thing I just though of, is do the pc's on the wired portion of the
network need to treat the squeezebox as the gateway, rather than the
wireless router - means none of them can have dhcp, but that shouldn't
be a huge issue - will try this tonight...


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Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question

2007-02-09 Thread bludragon

ok, it officially doesn't work for me :-(


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[slim] Wireless bridge question

2007-01-19 Thread Puggie

If I connect my server to a squeezebox 2 with the ethernet cable, can I
then access the server wirelessly using the Wireless bridge function in
the squeezebox, without having to have a seperate wireless access card
in the server.

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[slim] Wireless Bridge Just Doesn't Work

2006-12-06 Thread raintonr

Hi all,

Surely I must be doing something wrong here, I just cannot get the
wireless bridge mode of the SB2 to work... how hard can it be?

The situation is this:

Linux Box (LB1) in Study, running Slimserver 6.5 (this box is also DHCP
server, runs broadband gateway, etc).
D-Link DI-524 in Study connected to Linux Box
SB2 in Bedroom, normal stuff, no bridging
SB2 in Lounge, trying to bridge to a second Linux Box (LB2)
SB2s are on firmware 64 from the 6.5 server.

Turned on wireless bridge function on the Lounge SB2, connected to LB2
with crossover cable. 'Link' light comes on - all good, but no IP
address via DHCP.

H... OK - configure LB2's IP manually for now and try and ping LB1.
'Act' light on back of LB2 flashes with transmitted ping packets, but
nothing gets to LB1.

LB2 can't even ping the IP address that DHCP server says SB2 in lounge
has.

I know there's nothing wrong with crossover cable - connected a laptop
to LB2 with it and was able to ping between the two.

I know there's nothing wrong with LB2's network config - connected a
huge cat5 cable between it and DI-524 and everything works fine.

From all this I can only deduce that the SB2 in Lounge isn't doing what
it's mean to do. It's meant to pass packets from the wireless LAN
(essentially the DI-524) to LB2, and visa-versa, right? Having the same
effect as that huge cat5 cable (which I clearly don't want to have
trailing through the house).

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Robin


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[slim] Wireless Bridge DHCP Problems Solved?

2006-06-07 Thread deepfatfriar

Apologies if this has been answered or addressed elsewhere but after
10mins searching through forums I'd thought I'd post as a new thread.

I've just successfully rigged up a 3rd party video streaming device
(Slingbox) using the Squeezebox V3 wireless bridge option.

As others have found, my DHCP server would not assign an IP to the
bridged device... until... I connected another device to the router,
the new device appeared in the Router control panel immediately along
with the Slingbox.

I'm not technical enough to understand the inner magic of networking
but could this point to some sort of an issue with the Squeezebox not
correctly registering the bridged device with the DHCP server? 

I'm very happy with my Squeezebox, it has freed my music so this will
hopefully be considered a constructive post!

As an aside, if anyone from Slim Devices is reading this then I would
recommend taking a look at a SlingBox especially some of the
configuration wizards relating to external music access and their
introductory guides to networking - very helpful!


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[slim] Wireless Bridge Function

2006-03-19 Thread Michael Haan
Just wanted to say that I love this function - it has made my life so much easier!

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[slim] Wireless bridge / Firmware crash

2006-02-19 Thread GregD

I've been trying to track this down for a while - but still haven't a
100% reproduceable case. 

I use my SB2 as a wireless bridge - connecting the SlimServer PC via
100M ethernet. This work fine - and will play music forever without
problems.

However if I do something very intensive dragging data off the
SlimServer PC which uses SB2 as it's wireless bridge - I get an
interesting firmware crash.

First I stop getting network access vis the bridge, and at the same
time the SB2 display freezes. Music keeps playing though - although
with some 'crackles' (I use the digital out). Once the track is
finished the SB2 then completely freezes.

A power off will reset it - and as long as I don't talk to the PC via
the bridge I don't see any problems.

In normal non-intensive use I see occasional similar crashes - but they
happen much more often if I'm backing up files or viewing photos that
put a lot of traffic through the bridge.

Anyone seen anything similar?

I'm using a linksys WAG54Gv2 with recent firmware, and a mix of B  G
on the WLAN. In the crash the laptop is running B and the SB2 G -
although I still see the problem when I run everything in B. I'm
running 6.2.1  firmware 28.


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[slim] wireless bridge

2006-01-26 Thread swertens

Love this box, but
I'm trying to setup my SB as a wireless bridge.
I followed the instructions, but the SB never gives me the option to
turn bridge on/off


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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge/Gaming Adaptor

2005-05-13 Thread Chris Laplante
Talk about timely:

Here's a good writeup of doing this in a bit more hackish way.

http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000690043237/

-chris

On 5/12/05, Chris Laplante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  A router is perhaps less likely to have a client or bridge mode. I
 have personally used a pair of Linksys WAP11's in this config. (with a
 bit over a mile of Nevada desert and some home brew antennas between
 them; but that is a different story all together) The WAP54G will also
 do this for sure.
 
 If the WAP supports client mode, you would just connect your slim
 device to the wan port using either a straight thru or crossover
 Ethernet cable as required, and set the WAP's client settings to your
 SSID/WEP info as required.
 
 At that point the WAP should act as a passive bridge. You can then
 either set the IP manually to something in your network's range, or
 let it pull in a dhcp address. The slim device really does not even
 know it is not on a wired network. Your wireless network just thinks
 the WAP attached to your slim is another client.
 
 -Chris
 
 
 On 5/12/05, James S Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Chris Laplante wrote:
 
  Something to consider:
  
  Many access points will go into client mode as well, at which point
  you have a setup very similar to one of those adapters. From what I
  can see the gaming adapters are quite over-priced. For example, a
  local electronics chain (in the US) is selling refurbed 54G access
  points for $30, the gaming adapters are $100 or more. I think they are
  taking advantage of a niche market where the target buyer may not know
  they have other options.
  
  -chris
  
  
  
  
  Thank you for your comment, I have considered using an access point as I
  have a spare wireless router (SMC Barricade 7004AWBR EU) but it is not
  clear to me how I might change this into a Bridge/Game Adaptor. Any
  assistance in this endevour would be appreciated.
 
  Best wishes.
 
  James.
 
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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge/Gaming Adaptor

2005-05-13 Thread dean blackketter
But the _simplest_ solution would be to buy a Squeezebox2.
It's more money, but then again, you'd have a SLIMP3 to put in  
another room (or sell on eBay) AND get a free wireless bridge out of  
the deal.

-dean
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[slim] Wireless Bridge/Gaming Adaptor

2005-05-12 Thread James S Stubbs
Hi All,
I have recently moved house and it is no longer possible for me to plug 
my Slimp3 into my wireless router, which is a linksys WRT54G.

I have seen in the forum/Discussion List that people have mentioned 
Bridges/Game adaptors etc.

A)   Does any one have any suggestions which type would be best 
Bridge/Game adaptor
B)   Should I stick with a Linksys Product for compatibility
C)   Should I go for a G version

Many thanks  Best wishes.
James.
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Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge/Gaming Adaptor

2005-05-12 Thread Chris Laplante
Something to consider:

Many access points will go into client mode as well, at which point
you have a setup very similar to one of those adapters. From what I
can see the gaming adapters are quite over-priced. For example, a
local electronics chain (in the US) is selling refurbed 54G access
points for $30, the gaming adapters are $100 or more. I think they are
taking advantage of a niche market where the target buyer may not know
they have other options.

-chris


On 5/12/05, James S Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I have recently moved house and it is no longer possible for me to plug
 my Slimp3 into my wireless router, which is a linksys WRT54G.
 
 I have seen in the forum/Discussion List that people have mentioned
 Bridges/Game adaptors etc.
 
 A)   Does any one have any suggestions which type would be best
 Bridge/Game adaptor
 B)   Should I stick with a Linksys Product for compatibility
 C)   Should I go for a G version
 
 Many thanks  Best wishes.
 
 James.
 
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