Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
Dear friends ,I think you have a good idea about it !And I hope this can help you! http://goo.gl/7Dm0l -- dotcry dotcry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=49917 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
nelamvr6;511749 Wrote: > If you have Squeezecenter Server running on a desktop computer, you find > that using another computer to connect to that desktop computer and > controlling the SB via the web UI to be very slow? > > I was really interested in the iPad as soon as I saw the announcement, > and I immediately thought of controlling my SB via this scenario. > > I confess, I have zero experience with the iPhone, so I've never used > the iPeng. But I'm afraid I don't understand why the web ui would be > slow... I do this all the time and find it very fast. Also fast with ipeng on both iPhone and iPad. -- garym System 1: Vortexbox Appliance (1.10) > SbS 7.6.1 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio) System 2: Win7(64) laptop > SbS 7.6.1 > Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio and laptop) Retired: SB3, Duet Receiver Controlled at both locations with: iPhone (iPeng), iPad (iPengHD & SqueezePad), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.6 on Win7(64) laptop Ripping (FLAC) - dbpoweramp, Additional Tagging - mp3tag garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad?
I saw that many people use that with some apps, i don't know bout that but i will try to find some information bout it. so when i get some information i will tell you. -- zeelly zeelly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48850 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74572 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Bought this magnificent app and use it constantly. Thanks pippin. If I could nitpick, a darker theme may provide for a less stark contrast between the screen border and the UI. But regardless A+ I had always wanted to know which disc number a current track came from but knew it would take up a bit of space to achieve it on ipeng for iPhone. Now that we have more real estate perhaps this can become a reality? -- Line Line's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;583078 Wrote: > Hm... about holding your breath... > iPeng for iPad is out now :) > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=82681 Yea! Just bought it. I'll give it a thorough tire kicking once I can get 7.6 to scan my music library. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Very nice app here. I have also given five stars. I have some minor recommendations for future versions. First is the ability to have preset combinations of players, similar to what some people do with automated mood lighting in the home. I have five boxes and sometimes I want to play my music on different combinations of these players and it would be good to be able to do so from the player pull down. Second recommendation - make the on and off icons more distriinct for players. In fact, I'm not real crazy about the square icons at all. I like the image of the player type with the on "halo" the best. It seems like that was in a iphone previous version and then removed. Third - I wouldn't mind a darker background for some reason also. Very picky comment there. The Sonos background is a nice blue. Again, very nice job on this app. I was just about to buy a Sonos. -- Micro Micro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41016 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
I purchased and used the new app and it is great. I have given it a 5 star review at the iTunes app store. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;583078 Wrote: > Hm... about holding your breath... > iPeng for iPad is out now :) > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=82681 love it - this is in a totally different league from the standard iPeng app - and that I thought was brilliant. It worked straight out the box. There is just so much additional functionality that takes a few moments to readjust to - but it is so inuative. You keep finding extra ways of doing things. Pippin - you have taken it to a new level. This has to be the top app for any Squeezebox owning ipad owner. You can sleep well tonight - no more logging on to this forum at 4am please.. -- simonjedrake QNAP TS-239 (v 3.3.3 build 0928T). Seagate Barracuda ES 1000GB x 2. SSOTS 4.9.1 SC 7.5.2-31410 2 x SB3, 1 x SB2, 1 x SB Controller, SB Radio & iPad/iPhone/iTouch with iPeng QNAP TS-109 Pro (v 3.3.0 build 0924T) & a QNAP TS-101 (v 2.5.0 build 1210T) for secondary backup. Panasonic BL-C30 & Bl-C160 Cameras. Apple Airport Express. iTunes Playlist Library. Netgear DG834N Router simonjedrake's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4910 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Let's enjoy it!!! Great work!!! -- marsclone marsclone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33582 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Hm... about holding your breath... iPeng for iPad is out now :) http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=82681 -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;582995 Wrote: > This one is landscape but it's pretty much the same in portrait. > > I'll do a high-res version when a high-res iPad comes out. > As I said before: I don't believe we'll see a retina display in the > iPad next year, I don't believe the technology is already there to make > this useful. I don't doubt you on this, but it does make me feel a little disappointed. I've been telling folks who have admired my iPad to "wait for the retina release next year". But thinking that through, that would be an awful lot of pixels to pump for a 1Ghz device, wouldn't it. Something like 1920x1200 or more. I guess I'll stop recommending that folks hold their breath. -- gharris999 gharris999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=115 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
This one is landscape but it's pretty much the same in portrait. I'll do a high-res version when a high-res iPad comes out. As I said before: I don't believe we'll see a retina display in the iPad next year, I don't believe the technology is already there to make this useful. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;582652 Wrote: > Ok, let's move to the little bit more exciting stuff... > This is actually one of my favorites albeit I'm not 100% sure you can > fully appreciate it at this resolution and it's also rather simple... > It's the second playlist and the second screen saver, a "NowPlaying > Playlist". Really nice. Is that landscape or portrait? ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Kyle;582688 Wrote: > Looking good, Pippin! When will we get to buy, and what will it cost? > What about those of us who already own the iPhone app? Hey, this is the App Store. You will get to buy it whenever Apple likes to approve it, not a lot I can do about it. Price is $9.99 like the iPhone version and since there are no discounts on the App Store it's the same for everybody. It's not a free upgrade to the iPhone version, it's a separate App. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Looking good, Pippin! When will we get to buy, and what will it cost? What about those of us who already own the iPhone app? -- Kyle Regards, Jim Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Ok, let's move to the little bit more exciting stuff... This is actually one of my favorites albeit I'm not 100% sure you can fully appreciate it at this resolution and it's also rather simple... It's the second playlist and the second screen saver, a "NowPlaying Playlist". +---+ |Filename: 05B2_Playlist_Saver.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10747| +---+ -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Common Apple!! Where is it? ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Hm, ok. Item of the day seems to be playlists. Now iPeng actually has _two_ of them. The first one is essentially the one you know from iPeng yet with artwork and additional album info. This one is editable, also, as known from iPeng. +---+ |Filename: 05A_Playlist_Edit.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10745| +---+ -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
It didn't a few months ago http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74938&highlight=ir+blaster+touch MS -- MadScientist MadScientist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Yep. But as I said: I have no idea whether it works with the Touch. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;582277 Wrote: > Not sure but I believe No. > Also I have fixed the volume at 100% on the Touch using a plugin (can't > remember which) since this feature is not there on Squeezeserver for the > Touch. > > I am not using any plugin to control the amp. I use the original remote > for the amp to control the volume. > Hm, then I don't fully understand why you need volume up/down buttons. I mean, after all the volume is fixed, the only reason I'm aware of for still wanting volume changes is that you have a plugin that interprets them to control an amp while the SB's volume stays fixed. There are three of these I'm aware of (and that work with iPeng), two for Denon amps that directly control the volume (so you keep the slider) and then there's IRBlaster which captures up/down changes and sends them to the amplifier. iPeng will NOT manipulate the volume value for a SB that is set to fixed volume because this would confuse the group volume control and there is little sense in it anyway. Yet I am NOT sure whether this also applies to the Touch if the fixed volume is being set by a plugin, I don't know how that mechanism works. OK, let me clarify. Today I am have my Touch volume fixed to 100% and I control the amp with the amp remote. What I would like to be abel to do is fix the digital out volume of the Touch to 100% and have the IR emitter connected to the Touch blast the volume up or volume down signals for the amp volume when the volume is changed on the iPeng iPad. I though this was what the IRBlaster plugin did, no? ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
It seems the above issue of locking the volume on Touch is fixed on Squeezebox Server 7.6 peterw;578866 Wrote: > You're not running Squeezebox Server 7.6, are you? A while back, > Logitech added the option to lock the volume to the 7.6 series of Touch > firmware, so I have the patch marked as only compatible with 7.5. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=578866&postcount=28 I will check when I get home tonight. ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ASenna04;582272 Wrote: > > I use the Touch, will the plugin work with it? > Not sure but I believe No. Also I have fixed the volume at 100% on the Touch using a plugin (can't remember which) since this feature is not there on Squeezeserver for the Touch. I am not using any plugin to control the amp. I use the original remote for the amp to control the volume. Hm, then I don't fully understand why you need volume up/down buttons. I mean, after all the volume is fixed, the only reason I'm aware of for still wanting volume changes is that you have a plugin that interprets them to control an amp while the SB's volume stays fixed. There are three of these I'm aware of (and that work with iPeng), two for Denon amps that directly control the volume (so you keep the slider) and then there's IRBlaster which captures up/down changes and sends them to the amplifier. iPeng will NOT manipulate the volume value for a SB that is set to fixed volume because this would confuse the group volume control and there is little sense in it anyway. Yet I am NOT sure whether this also applies to the Touch if the fixed volume is being set by a plugin, I don't know how that mechanism works. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;582260 Wrote: > IRBlaster is a plugin that runs an IR emitter from the headphone jack of > the Squeezebox Classic, Transporter or Boom. > Have a look at the 3rd party plugins section. > If you just need a way to change the volume you could just enable the > plugin and enter _something_ for the volume change command. The plugin > will then report to iPeng that it's accepting volume changes even > though the actual volume is fixed to 100%. > Which plugin are you using to control your amp? Thanks for responding. I use the Touch, will the plugin work with it. Also I have fixed the volume at 100% on the Touch using a plugin (can't remember which) since this feature is not there on Squeezeserver for the Touch. I am not using any plugin to control the amp. I use the original remote for the amp to control the volume. ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ASenna04;582259 Wrote: > I have my Squeezebox Server running on a Mac Mini that is located in a > different room to where the Hifi is. Can someone direct me to an > irblaster that has build in wifi so that it can be placed away from > Mini and recieve the signal through Wifi and control the HiFi volume > etc... > IRBlaster is a plugin that runs an IR emitter from the headphone jack of the Squeezebox Classic, Transporter or Boom. Have a look at the 3rd party plugins section. If you just need a way to change the volume you could just enable the plugin and enter _something_ for the volume change command. The plugin will then report to iPeng that it's accepting volume changes even though the actual volume is fixed to 100%. Which plugin are you using to control your amp? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ASenna04;582252 Wrote: > Now that is clever. I must check out what this "irblaster" is! > > More pictures please. > > And give us another clue - Is the screen allocation for different > purpose (Now Playing, Albums, Artwork) pretty much the same as you > navigate (like the Sonos) or it changes (like Remote for iPad) > > ASenna04 I have my Squeezebox Server running on a Mac Mini that is located in a different room to where the Hifi is. Can someone direct me to an irblaster that has build in wifi so that it can be placed away from Mini and recieve the signal through Wifi and control the HiFi volume etc... ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ASenna04;582252 Wrote: > > And give us another clue - Is the screen allocation for different > purpose (Now Playing, Albums, Artwork) pretty much the same as you > navigate (like the Sonos) or it changes (like Remote for iPad) > Don't exactly know what you mean by "screen allocation" in this case. Both Sonos and Remote don't really change the screen layout while you browse. Or do you mean "same" as in compared to the iPhone App? Compared to the iPhone App it's different, don't like the cheap way Sonos did it. Don't like microfiche-sized artwork either :D -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;582124 Wrote: > Yep. But this works with the "normal" iPeng, too, if you use the latest > IRBlaster version. Now that is clever. I must check out what this "irblaster" is! More pictures please. And give us another clue - Is the screen allocation for different purpose (Now Playing, Albums, Artwork) pretty much the same as you navigate (like the Sonos) or it changes (like Remote for iPad) ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Yep. But this works with the "normal" iPeng, too, if you use the latest IRBlaster version. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Will the volume controls work with irblaster and volume fixed at 100% on the squeezebox (are the + and - also buttons)? Rob -- rkotemp rkotemp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22581 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Ok, screenshots... Let's enter that "competition" :D Volume and progress indicators. No magic rim. +---+ |Filename: 04B_Progress_Indicator.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10733| +---+ -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ASenna04;582102 Wrote: > > Question: Does it support Spotify as well as iPeng for iPhone? > Umm...yes. Well, Spotify works. There is one limitation iPeng for iPad has and that is that some of the cool stuff I did not yet show doesn't work with some legacy code meaning the legacy stuff will look more like in iPeng for iPhone. "legacy stuff" in this case means anything that is being rendered using standard-XMLBrowser menus and this means: "Apps", "Music Sources" and "Internet Radio" for server versions prior to 7.4 and the Spotify plugin with server versions prior to 7.6. In short: If it should be really cool you'll need SBS 7.6. There's little way around it. I don't plan to make a big development effort for a menu that's only being used for Spotify and for an outgoing software generation and there is no way to make the new stuff work on the old server versions, Triode and I tried this for a looong time. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;582097 Wrote: > > Well, I don't know how long this review process is going to go so I'm > prepared to show like 10 more screen shots or so ;) > Yes! lets see it. But let the 10 come is fast, don't make us suffer :) ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippen, Add me to the list of the folks that will buy this new app the second it's released! Can't wait! Please keep the screenshots coming! - Jon -- jonbauer jonbauer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
ASenna04;582096 Wrote: > How long did it take you to develop it? > Hard to say. Hardcore-iPad-only programming on top of "iPeng for iPhone" was maybe three months. But I did already do a lot of the basics in the last iPeng version, which already supports different screen and artwork sizes and the like. I also did a "prototype" version earlier this year which also took several weeks to develop but which I later scrapped. It was intended to be part of a universal "lite" version for the "normal" iPeng but simply looked too bad. > > Can you tell us more about how the extra screen space have been > utilised? > Well, I don't know how long this review process is going to go so I'm prepared to show like 10 more screen shots or so ;) > > Is it anything like the new iTunes App for iPad? > I think it's better. Although I dropped "Play shuffled" from playlists and albums while Remote still has it :). But you don't really need it in iPeng for iPad One feature that will be new to Squeezebox Remotes will have to wait until 1.1 but I don't say which one. Since it's new you're not going to miss it and while Remote has it it's useless there. > > Will you post here when it is released by Apple to inform us. > Yep. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Well Done Pippin! I thought it will be more around the end of the calendar year when you will be realing the iPad version. That is what I gathered when I last checked the Squeezebox forums about 2 months back. How long did it take you to develop it? Can you tell us more about how the extra screen spac have been utilised? Is anything like the new iTunes App for iPad? Will you post here when it is released by Apple to inform us. can't wait. Thank you. ASenna04 -- ASenna04 ASenna04's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2696 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Oooh! A dedicated search bar, that will definitely speed things up for me. -- Line Line's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Thanks for the speedy reply - look forward to acquiring it - hopefully next week. MS -- MadScientist MadScientist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
MadScientist;581956 Wrote: > Two questions: can we use the 'Ipad Ipeng' in landscape mode? Also, > what is its official name?Apologies if these Qs have been answered > in the tome of posts above. > > MS Yes, both portrait and landscape and it's called "iPeng for iPad". -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
One question: can we use the 'Ipad Ipeng' in landscape mode? Also, what is its official name?Apologies if these Qs have been answered in the tome of posts above. MS -- MadScientist MadScientist's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Next one: The search bar. +---+ |Filename: 03_Search_Bar.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10729| +---+ -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
/twiddles thumbs Hurry up Apple! -- Line Line's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23800 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
OK, another one. More "NowPlaying" but now on the main screen... +---+ |Filename: 02_NPSmall_stars.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10720| +---+ -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
> If you only have an iPad I'd recommend to wait for the iPad version. > It's awaiting review at Apple's and it's really so much better on iPad > than the iPhone version May I say that I tend to agree? :-) -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
On 8-10-2010 11:16, pippin wrote: > peter;581474 Wrote: >> And I'll be installing iPeng as soon as I get home! >> > If you only have an iPad I'd recommend to wait for the iPad version. > It's awaiting review at Apple's and it's really so much better on iPad > than the iPhone version Thanks for the warning, I misunderstood an earlier post and I thought the iPad version was available already. Back in waiting mode, I guess.. Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
peter;581474 Wrote: > > And I'll be installing iPeng as soon as I get home! > If you only have an iPad I'd recommend to wait for the iPad version. It's awaiting review at Apple's and it's really so much better on iPad than the iPhone version -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
On 8-10-2010 11:02, pippin wrote: > VirusKiller;581464 Wrote: >> Well, as long as they sort out Safari in the iOS4 update, I'll be happy. >> Proper tabbed browsing please... > Yep. That and Mail. The current iOS4 version would be a good start Yeah, the mail app is terrible if you have a mailbox with lots of folders, but not as bad as the stock Android one. OTOH on Android you have a choice to install a free alternative that does cater to people with multi-G mailboxes ;) I'd also really really like a way to cross browser sync bookmarks and tabs. And I'll be installing iPeng as soon as I get home! Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
VirusKiller;581464 Wrote: > Well, as long as they sort out Safari in the iOS4 update, I'll be happy. > Proper tabbed browsing please... Yep. That and Mail. The current iOS4 version would be a good start -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Well, as long as they sort out Safari in the iOS4 update, I'll be happy. Proper tabbed browsing please... -- VirusKiller VirusKiller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
VirusKiller;581452 Wrote: > I would think so. I'm not so sure. They'd probably need a new processor generation for that. Retina Display would mean 4 times the pixels, 4 times the memory and 4 times the processing power for graphics. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;581362 Wrote: > Also: you never know what iPad 2.0 will look like. Retina Display? I would > think so. -- VirusKiller VirusKiller's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Actually I did think about zooming on the screen saver screen but then decided against it for now. Generally I'd say: as big as you can get them. The server scales fine and if I add zooming in 1.1 or so at least 1024x1024 may make sense. Also: you never know what iPad 2.0 will look like. Retina Display? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
epoch1970;581351 Wrote: > Pippin, > > My library has various qualities of covers. Some come from iTunes store > (600x600 I think), some from hi-rez scan (via google) and many are mid- > to low-resolution I grabbed when I installed SC/SBS (via bpa's cover > find - Amazon). > Now on iPhone/ipeng I can spot low-resolution files quite easily. > > What are reasonable cover dimensions for a nice display on iPad ? iPads got a native resolution of 1024*768. Given that covers can fill the full width it looks like 768*768 makes sense. 2000*2000 might make sense, if iPeng sports zooming on the screensafer-screen :D -- bluegaspode Big Screen for great Boxes available now at your AppStore: *'Squeezebox + iPad = SqueezePad ' (www.squeezepad.com) *! Want to see a Weather Forecast on your Radio/Touch/Controller ? => why not try my 'Weather Forecast Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73827) Want to use the Headphones with your Controller ? => why not try my 'Headphone Switcher Applet' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67139) Setup: 1x SB-Controller+Receiver (Duet), 1xSB-Boom. 2xSB-Radio Server (7.5.1) running on SheevaPlug (Ubuntu) with attached Western Digital MyBook Essential. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Pippin, My library has various qualities of covers. Some come from iTunes store (600x600 I think), some from hi-rez scan (via google) and many are mid- to low-resolution I grabbed when I installed SC/SBS (via bpa's cover find - Amazon). Now on iPhone/ipeng I can spot low-resolution files quite easily. What are reasonable cover dimensions for a nice display on iPad ? -- epoch1970 Daily dose delivered by: 2 SB Classic (fw 130), 1 SB Boom (fw 50) SqueezeCenter 7.3.4 (Debian 5.0) with plugins: ContextMenu, SaverSwitcher by Peter Watkins Server Power Control by Gordon Harris WeatherTime by Martin Rehfeld IRBlaster by Gwendesign (Felix) FindArt, CDplayer by bpa BBC iPlayer, SwitchPlayer by Triode PowerSave by Jason Holtzapple TrackStat by Erland Isaksson. epoch1970's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;581224 Wrote: > Ok, maybe let's switch the topic a bit to "how does it look like" ;) > > Since it's now with Apple waiting for approval I have to keep my > promise to start leaking some picture. > > However, since it's early and Apple's reviews can be long these days > and they might find something they don't like (icons being too similar > to iPeng for iPhone, whatever) I have to start slow. > > So here's the most un-exiting screen shot I could find, the Cover > Screen Saver. > Ok, actually when _live_ it's not that unexciting since it gives you a > nice view that works across the room but there aren't any real > surprises in here. > > More to follow I can't wait! -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net 'Library' (http://zzzone.net/photo/2009/music1.jpg) Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT54GL Server: SBS 7.5.1 - Atom-based nettop - Win XP SP3 Player: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Touch with Controller Control: 1 extra controller, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng & SqueezePad Files: 80,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Ok, maybe let's switch the topic a bit to "how does it look like" ;) Since it's now with Apple waiting for approval I have to keep my promise to start leaking some picture. However, since it's early and Apple's reviews can be long these days and they might find something they don't like (icons being too similar to iPeng for iPhone, whatever) I have to start slow. So here's the most un-exiting screen shot I could find, the Cover Screen Saver. Ok, actually when _live_ it's not that unexciting since it gives you a nice view that works across the room but there aren't any real surprises in here. More to follow +---+ |Filename: NPSS_teaser.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10716| +---+ -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
jclyle;579104 Wrote: > Will iPeng work with a Touch if the Touch is running the internal server > with a USB drive attached? Sure. -- flattermann Christian Home of 'SqueezeCommander' (http://www.squeezecommander.com) - The SqueezeBox Remote Control App for Android flattermann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Will iPeng work with a Touch if the Touch is running the internal server with a USB drive attached? -- jclyle jclyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11752 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;579041 Wrote: > It's in beta phase and if everything goes well I plan to send it to the > App Store end of next week (for Americans: End of this week :) ) Great news pippin:-) Well done and best of luck with iPeng for the iPad. I'm looking forward to using it and getting another incentive to explore and to play with my music collection. -- kesey Squeezebox Classic:2; Duet: 1; Boom:1; Touch:1 Server: SheevaPlug Debian Squeeze 4GB SDCard, Squeezeboxserver 7.6.0 - r31349 kesey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;579041 Wrote: > It's in beta phase and if everything goes well I plan to send it to the > App Store end of next week (for Americans: End of this week :) ) I'm excited to see where you went with it. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
jclyle;579020 Wrote: > Do we know when iPeng for iPad will be ready? Just bought the iPhone > app yesterday and it is an amazing app! It's in beta phase and if everything goes well I plan to send it to the App Store end of next week (for Americans: End of this week :) ) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Do we know when iPeng for iPad will be ready? Just bought the iPhone app yesterday and it is an amazing app! -- jclyle jclyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11752 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Can we please get on topic again ?
Let's use this thread to discuss how you would like iPeng on iPad to
look like and what features you want.
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Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 01:52 -0700, "hvb83" wrote: > > If so many people seem to find a reason to respond, it could perhaps > have been something in the tone of voice in your first 2 posts. Nobody > tells you you're a scraper because you're not buying both of Pippin's > apps, but you where the one suggesting somebody is making too much > money out of the app... Geez, so that's the problem? You did see the smiley at the end of that line, did you? Or perhaps it didn't make it through to the forum (I'm an e-mail list reader). "If pippin makes too much on the iphone app he may not bother finishing the ipad version ;)" It's supposed to signal that one shouldn't take the preceding remark too seriously: It was a joke... And a pretty obvious one, if you ask me... Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
If so many people seem to find a reason to respond, it could perhaps have been something in the tone of voice in your first 2 posts. Nobody tells you you're a scraper because you're not buying both of Pippin's apps, but you where the one suggesting somebody is making too much money out of the app... -- hvb83 SB Receiver, Marantz SR5004, Harman Kardon HKTS11 SB Radio SB Server 7.5.1 running on a Synology DS210+ NAS iPhone running iPeng 1.2.5 and iPad running SqueezePad hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
On 18-9-2010 4:53, jhonsber...@msn.com wrote: > > Really both developers of Ipeng and Squeezepad have made the use of > Squeezebox products > So much easier and efficient that users should support both. I am, I am buying both. That's buying, not supporting. I don't like that word... > I have bought Ipeng,then Squeezepad and I will buy Ipeng for iPad when > that comes out. So because I'll only be buying the Ipeng for iPad as well as Squeezepad (which I already bought) and of course an Android app when I get my phone, for some reason I deserve this whole group falling over me for being a cheapskate. Don't forget to buy Squeezey as well, guys! Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
I like iPeng and Squeezepad; I purchased both as the price is very reasonable. I will purchase iPeng for iPad when it comes. Cheers to the developers! -- jimzak http://zzzone.net http://have-a-nice-day.org http://www.last.fm/user/zzzoneDOTnet http://somethingsomethingsomething.net Ripper: dBpoweramp Router: Lynksys WRT54GL Server: SBS 7.5.1 - dedicated Atom-based nettop - Windows XP SP3 Music: 2 Booms, 1 Radio, 1 Duet, 1 Touch, Control: 1 extra controller, 1 iPod Touch w/iPeng, 1 iPad w/iPeng & SqueezePad Files: 79,000+ FLAC/MP3 files - 2TB external HD x 2 Logitech: Harmony One x 2, Wilife Home Security jimzak's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17592 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
jhonsber...@msn.com;577309 Wrote: > Really both developers of Ipeng and Squeezepad have made the use of > Squeezebox products > So much easier and efficient that users should support both. > > I have bought Ipeng,then Squeezepad and I will buy Ipeng for iPad when > that comes out. Exactly. -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Record collection - $1,000.s Stereo system - $1,000.s multiple Squeezeboxes - $1,200. plus sales tax Ipad - $500. plus sales tax iPeng app PRICELESS. Why? Because it ties the room together ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrLLdNuOESk -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
mortslim;577294 Wrote:
> Wow !!!
>
> Let's see here - the guy has AT LEAST one squeezebox ($300) and he has
> an iPad (at least $500), plus the sales tax associated with these
> purchases. So now we're talking close to $1,000.
>
> And he is agonizing about spending an extra $10 ??
>
Please, let's stop this argument, everyone has to do their own choice.
If someone wants to hold on to their money, that is fine, everyone have
to choose for themselves.
I think it's important to get people to realize that compared to all
other stuff they get every day without thinking much, $10 for an app
might not be that much, but it's still their choice. We shouldn't blame
and question anyone that prefers to wait, that's their choice.
For some strange reason, many people think $50 for a piece of hardware
that doesn't change your life much is very cheap but $10 for software
that completely change your Squeezebox experience is suddenly
expensive. As a developer I have a hard time understanding this but I
also know I sometimes tend to have thoughts like this myself as a
consumer.
mortslim;577294 Wrote:
>
> I consider it an honor to be able to buy BOTH the current iPeng for
> iPhone and the upcoming app just for the iPad. This encourages
> continued development and it shows my appreciation for great apps.
>
I think this is the important thing.
Most(all?) third party developers do get encouraged when someone is
willing to show them their appreciation through some economical support
or even just through some fancy words. So if you think someone has done
something great and you would love them to continue doing similar
things in the future, this might be worth a lot more than $10 to you.
Applications like iPeng and SqueezePad and other third party
plugins/applets have changed the Squeezebox experience a lot for me and
I would like all third party developers to continue doing this in the
future. Especially since the history shows that Logitech is focused on
the core functionality and most extras that makes the products shine
comes from third party developers. Compared to other iPhone/iPad apps,
$10 might seem expensive, but as I look at it I pay for the improvement
of the Squeezebox system and to encourage future development and in this
context $10 is a drop in the sea.
As and example, for $10 in Sweden I get a single meal of food on a
cheap restaurant, in comparison, a third party software that completely
changes my Squeezebox experience every day is worth a LOT more than
that. The meal of food will be forgotten next day but the third party
software and its developer will continue to change my music discovery
experience today and in the future.
Still, if some people prefer to wait and don't want to "waste" any
money on encouragement, we should accept that.
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Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;576532 Wrote: > There's too much work that has already gone into the iPeng iPad app to > not finish it. Plus I start to like it (took a while). > > If you can live with SqueezePad for a few more weeks I would also > recommend to wait for iPeng for iPad - it will be worth it :) For what IPENG does $12.50 in Australia is a bargain. What ever the IPAD app cost i'm sure it will also be a bargain,I will buy an ipad purely to run IPENG as it will give me a SOOLOOS like interface minus the $20 000 price tag. It if was easy we would all be writting great apps, Pippin deserves to be paid for his creative code writing. REGARDS -- boatnanny MY SB3 ROTEL B&W 805 SB3 DENON B&W MATRIX 2 DUET DIY AMP ADS BOOKSHELFS boatnanny's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=38734 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Really both developers of Ipeng and Squeezepad have made the use of Squeezebox products So much easier and efficient that users should support both. I have bought Ipeng,then Squeezepad and I will buy Ipeng for iPad when that comes out. -- jhonsber...@msn.com jhonsber...@msn.com's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4438 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
peter;576494 Wrote: > throwing money around Wow !!! Let's see here - the guy has AT LEAST one squeezebox ($300) and he has an iPad (at least $500), plus the sales tax associated with these purchases. So now we're talking close to $1,000. And he is agonizing about spending an extra $10 ?? I can assure you that Pippin has not quit his day job to develop his iPeng app. The revenue he has seen in no way approaches the time, effort and skills needed to develop an essential app for the complete squeezebox experience. I use the current iPeng app on the iPad and it works great. It's sophistication far exceeds any competing apps. And I also look forward to upgrading when the iPad only app is published. I consider it an honor to be able to buy BOTH the current iPeng for iPhone and the upcoming app just for the iPad. This encourages continued development and it shows my appreciation for great apps. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Jeff Flowerday wrote: > peter;576859 Wrote: > >> On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:47 -0700, "hvb83" >> >> wrote: >> >>> peter;576494 Wrote: >>> Sorry, I'm not going to buy an iphone app, when an ipad app is - hopefully - just around the corner. Of course, you're free to do want you want with your money. If >> pippin >> makes too much on the iphone app he may not bother finishing the >> ipad >> version ;) >>> That's a little below the belt ain't it? I wouldn't dare to make >>> statements in regard to how many iPengs have been sold world-wide, >>> >> but >> >>> I'd guess it's closer to 1000 than to 1. If you look at the way >>> the app has been designed and how it's been perfected, you just know >>> there is a lot of development in this app. Even if he did earn >>> >> €20.000 >> >>> by selling this app, in my opinion, that ain't too much. There are >>> plenty of guys in the appstore developing useless apps, that are >>> >> poorly >> >>> designed and shameless copies of concepts designed by others in >>> >> years >> >>> gone by, who earn a whole lot more by selling their apps. >>> >>> And iPad is even more scarce, so I'm guessing iPeng HD will deliver >>> even less revenues to the developer. Although ofcourse, most of the >>> knowledge that has been gathered while building iPeng for iPhone can >>> >> be >> >>> reused, so development time is probably less too. At the same time, >>> knowing the way Pippin seems to work, he is working hard on finding >>> >> a >> >>> smart way for the UI that utilizes the iPad's larger screen. I'm >>> guessing it will be a totally different experience from Squeezepad >>> >> too, >> >>> which works fine, but I still find myself using my iPeng everytime >>> because SP doesn't use the large screen in a smart way. Almost >>> demanding an upgrade from iPhone to iPad seems a bit odd in that >>> >> sense: >> >>> it will be a totally different app. >>> >>> Anyhow, the point is, ofcourse it's ok for you to decide what you >>> >> will >> >>> and will not buy. But they will be 2 totally different apps and >>> therefor it is ok for the developer to offer it as a separate >>> >> package >> >>> and have you pay for them. At €7.99 it's not that steep, not if you >>> >> can >> >>> afford to buy an iPad anyway.. ;) >>> >> 1. Don't be silly, there's nothing below the belt in my post. >> 2. I'm not demanding a free upgrade, I'm just considering getting the >> iphone version while I eagerly wait for the real thing. >> >> Regards, >> Peter >> > > I'd get the iPhone version, until you wait for iPeng HD. It's feature > set is more complete than squeezepad and you then would have it for a > touch or phone if you ever went that way down the road. Not likely. I had to break some principles when I bought the iPad. I just ordered an android phone, so I might be in the market for an android version ;) Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
peter;576859 Wrote: > On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:47 -0700, "hvb83" > > wrote: > > > > peter;576494 Wrote: > > > Sorry, I'm not going to buy an iphone app, when an ipad app is - > > > hopefully - just around the corner. > > > > > > Of course, you're free to do want you want with your money. If > pippin > > > makes too much on the iphone app he may not bother finishing the > ipad > > > version ;) > > > > That's a little below the belt ain't it? I wouldn't dare to make > > statements in regard to how many iPengs have been sold world-wide, > but > > I'd guess it's closer to 1000 than to 1. If you look at the way > > the app has been designed and how it's been perfected, you just know > > there is a lot of development in this app. Even if he did earn > 20.000 > > by selling this app, in my opinion, that ain't too much. There are > > plenty of guys in the appstore developing useless apps, that are > poorly > > designed and shameless copies of concepts designed by others in > years > > gone by, who earn a whole lot more by selling their apps. > > > > And iPad is even more scarce, so I'm guessing iPeng HD will deliver > > even less revenues to the developer. Although ofcourse, most of the > > knowledge that has been gathered while building iPeng for iPhone can > be > > reused, so development time is probably less too. At the same time, > > knowing the way Pippin seems to work, he is working hard on finding > a > > smart way for the UI that utilizes the iPad's larger screen. I'm > > guessing it will be a totally different experience from Squeezepad > too, > > which works fine, but I still find myself using my iPeng everytime > > because SP doesn't use the large screen in a smart way. Almost > > demanding an upgrade from iPhone to iPad seems a bit odd in that > sense: > > it will be a totally different app. > > > > Anyhow, the point is, ofcourse it's ok for you to decide what you > will > > and will not buy. But they will be 2 totally different apps and > > therefor it is ok for the developer to offer it as a separate > package > > and have you pay for them. At 7.99 it's not that steep, not if you > can > > afford to buy an iPad anyway.. ;) > > 1. Don't be silly, there's nothing below the belt in my post. > 2. I'm not demanding a free upgrade, I'm just considering getting the > iphone version while I eagerly wait for the real thing. > > Regards, > Peter I'd get the iPhone version, until you wait for iPeng HD. It's feature set is more complete than squeezepad and you then would have it for a touch or phone if you ever went that way down the road. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 00:47 -0700, "hvb83" wrote: > > peter;576494 Wrote: > > Sorry, I'm not going to buy an iphone app, when an ipad app is - > > hopefully - just around the corner. > > > > Of course, you're free to do want you want with your money. If pippin > > makes too much on the iphone app he may not bother finishing the ipad > > version ;) > > That's a little below the belt ain't it? I wouldn't dare to make > statements in regard to how many iPengs have been sold world-wide, but > I'd guess it's closer to 1000 than to 1. If you look at the way > the app has been designed and how it's been perfected, you just know > there is a lot of development in this app. Even if he did earn 20.000 > by selling this app, in my opinion, that ain't too much. There are > plenty of guys in the appstore developing useless apps, that are poorly > designed and shameless copies of concepts designed by others in years > gone by, who earn a whole lot more by selling their apps. > > And iPad is even more scarce, so I'm guessing iPeng HD will deliver > even less revenues to the developer. Although ofcourse, most of the > knowledge that has been gathered while building iPeng for iPhone can be > reused, so development time is probably less too. At the same time, > knowing the way Pippin seems to work, he is working hard on finding a > smart way for the UI that utilizes the iPad's larger screen. I'm > guessing it will be a totally different experience from Squeezepad too, > which works fine, but I still find myself using my iPeng everytime > because SP doesn't use the large screen in a smart way. Almost > demanding an upgrade from iPhone to iPad seems a bit odd in that sense: > it will be a totally different app. > > Anyhow, the point is, ofcourse it's ok for you to decide what you will > and will not buy. But they will be 2 totally different apps and > therefor it is ok for the developer to offer it as a separate package > and have you pay for them. At 7.99 it's not that steep, not if you can > afford to buy an iPad anyway.. ;) 1. Don't be silly, there's nothing below the belt in my post. 2. I'm not demanding a free upgrade, I'm just considering getting the iphone version while I eagerly wait for the real thing. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
peter;576494 Wrote: > Sorry, I'm not going to buy an iphone app, when an ipad app is - > hopefully - just around the corner. > > Of course, you're free to do want you want with your money. If pippin > makes too much on the iphone app he may not bother finishing the ipad > version ;) That's a little below the belt ain't it? I wouldn't dare to make statements in regard to how many iPengs have been sold world-wide, but I'd guess it's closer to 1000 than to 1. If you look at the way the app has been designed and how it's been perfected, you just know there is a lot of development in this app. Even if he did earn 20.000 by selling this app, in my opinion, that ain't too much. There are plenty of guys in the appstore developing useless apps, that are poorly designed and shameless copies of concepts designed by others in years gone by, who earn a whole lot more by selling their apps. And iPad is even more scarce, so I'm guessing iPeng HD will deliver even less revenues to the developer. Although ofcourse, most of the knowledge that has been gathered while building iPeng for iPhone can be reused, so development time is probably less too. At the same time, knowing the way Pippin seems to work, he is working hard on finding a smart way for the UI that utilizes the iPad's larger screen. I'm guessing it will be a totally different experience from Squeezepad too, which works fine, but I still find myself using my iPeng everytime because SP doesn't use the large screen in a smart way. Almost demanding an upgrade from iPhone to iPad seems a bit odd in that sense: it will be a totally different app. Anyhow, the point is, ofcourse it's ok for you to decide what you will and will not buy. But they will be 2 totally different apps and therefor it is ok for the developer to offer it as a separate package and have you pay for them. At 7.99 it's not that steep, not if you can afford to buy an iPad anyway.. ;) -- hvb83 SB Receiver, Marantz SR5004, Harman Kardon HKTS11 SB Radio SB Server 7.5.1 running on a Synology DS210+ NAS iPhone running iPeng 1.2.5 and iPad running SqueezePad hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
There's too much work that has already gone into the iPeng iPad app to not finish it. Plus I start to like it (took a while). If you can live with SqueezePad for a few more weeks I would also recommend to wait for iPeng for iPad - it will be worth it :) -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
erland wrote: > peter;576452 Wrote: > >> I want to give you my money, but it seems iphone/ipad developers sell >> their ipad offerings as a separate app. If that's the case with ipeng >> I'll end up paying for two apps when I really only want the ipad >> version. >> >> > Get them all and encourage the developers to continue produce excellent > apps. > One encourages production of excellent apps by buying what one wants and needs, not by throwing money around regardless. I already bought the Squeezepad app which works but isn't very polished. I'm expecting ipeng to be a lot better. > We are really not talking about that much money, do you plan this much > also when getting a new CD or eating at a restaurant ? > > There are hundreds (maybe thousands) of development hours behind these > apps, paying $10 extra isn't really that much to show your > appreciation. > Sorry, I'm not going to buy an iphone app, when an ipad app is - hopefully - just around the corner. Of course, you're free to do want you want with your money. If pippin makes too much on the iphone app he may not bother finishing the ipad version ;) Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
peter;576452 Wrote:
>
> I want to give you my money, but it seems iphone/ipad developers sell
> their ipad offerings as a separate app. If that's the case with ipeng
> I'll end up paying for two apps when I really only want the ipad
> version.
>
Get them all and encourage the developers to continue produce excellent
apps.
We are really not talking about that much money, do you plan this much
also when getting a new CD or eating at a restaurant ?
There are hundreds (maybe thousands) of development hours behind these
apps, paying $10 extra isn't really that much to show your
appreciation.
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peter;576452 Wrote: > > I want to give you my money, but it seems iphone/ipad developers sell > their ipad offerings as a separate app. If that's the case with ipeng > I'll end up paying for two apps when I really only want the ipad > version. > Well, there's a lot of difference and additional work between an iPhone and an iPad app. The UIs are completely different. Plus it won't really help the performance of bot apps if you throw in tons of branching for completely different user interfaces. So yes, it will be a separate app. > > If I buy the iphone version now, will I be able to upgrade to the ipad > > version without paying for a whole new program? > No > > Or should I just wait and use squeezepad in the mean time? > I'd do that, hopefully it's not too far away. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin wrote: > nathan_h;568975 Wrote: > >> This is interesting. What does the Sonos interface not let a user do? >> Seems like every Sonos feature is available. One might call that ro >> ust but elegant, rather than primitive :-) >> > > Well, the Squeezebox web interface also let's you do everything on the > iPad so it was definitely there earlier, by this standard. > Apple finally got me to buy one of their products so I'm here eyeing this ipeng program... I want to give you my money, but it seems iphone/ipad developers sell their ipad offerings as a separate app. If that's the case with ipeng I'll end up paying for two apps when I really only want the ipad version. If I buy the iphone version now, will I be able to upgrade to the ipad version without paying for a whole new program? Or should I just wait and use squeezepad in the mean time? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
I just got my ipod touch this week but mt friends have this ipad. What's the major difference? Is it more updated when it comes to features?Please feel free to send me the details via pm. Thank you much! 'ipad' (http://www.findappleipad.org) -- mshane mshane's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40271 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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nathan_h;568975 Wrote: > This is interesting. What does the Sonos interface not let a user do? > Seems like every Sonos feature is available. One might call that ro > ust but elegant, rather than primitive :-) Well, the Squeezebox web interface also let's you do everything on the iPad so it was definitely there earlier, by this standard. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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This is interesting. What does the Sonos interface not let a user do? Seems like every Sonos feature is available. One might call that ro ust but elegant, rather than primitive :-) -- nathan_h nathan_h's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
epogo;567356 Wrote: > Have you seen the Sonos Controller for iPad. There a several videos on > YouTube. > It have a very nice UI. I Think there a a few impressions for the iPeng > for iPad... > > Greetings epogo Really? Honestly: I find that one primitive. It's just a side-by-side arrangement of the iPhone App's menus -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Have you seen the Sonos Controller for iPad. There a several videos on YouTube. It have a very nice UI. I Think there a a few impressions for the iPeng for iPad... Greetings epogo -- epogo epogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=26034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
hvb83;567105 Wrote: > Ok, potato potato, I was talking about iPeng start-up. Sorry about the > confusion. :) OK, but that has nothing to do with artwork. What iPeng does is check the albums table to see whether the albums have changed. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;567102 Wrote: > Only after a rescan of the library (all artwork) and when you start the > app (before artwork shows up at all). > After that it doesn't, it reads them fully out of the iPhone's cache. Ok, potato potato, I was talking about iPeng start-up. Sorry about the confusion. :) -- hvb83 hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
hvb83;567087 Wrote: > > So even if it stores artwork on the phone itself, there must be some > request going to the server prior to showing the artwork? :S Only after a rescan of the library (all artwork) and when you start the app (before artwork shows up at all). After that it doesn't, it reads them fully out of the iPhone's cache. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
pippin;566802 Wrote: > Actually that's usually not a server issue since iPeng caches the > artwork on the device. > The problem here is that scrolling on an iThingy takes >90% of the CPU > power and prioritizes so much higher than the main thread that you have > no chance to bring in artwork from the flash disc and it's simply soo > much artwork to keep it all in memory. > iPad has more memory (but will use bigger artwork so this will probably > offset it) and also, it only applies to scrolling. Now I'm not one to start argueing with you on what is and what is not stored on the iPhone within the app you developed yourself. But I moved from a Synology DS207+ to a DS210+ and, amongst other improvements, experienced a definate improvement in artwork loading-times. On the old server, even if the albumlist was shown for seconds, artwork wasn't shown, this isn't the case anymore. So even if it stores artwork on the phone itself, there must be some request going to the server prior to showing the artwork? :S -- hvb83 hvb83's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Most of my music has no cover art, so I'd hate to slow things down just to produce empty boxes. Not sure how many others have the same situation, but that's my '2 cents.' Thanks for all the work you put in, Pippin!! -- fphredd fphredd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Jeff Flowerday;566761 Wrote: > Bringing up a page of album art like that would be way too slow. The > speed squeezebox server can serve the art seems to be an issue. Just > look at the art being populated when you bring up the 5 album under an > artist using the current iPeng. > Actually that's usually not a server issue since iPeng caches the artwork on the device. The problem here is that scrolling on an iThingy takes >90% of the CPU power and prioritizes so much higher than the main thread that you have no chance to bring in artwork from the flash disc and it's simply soo much artwork to keep it all in memory. iPad has more memory (but will use bigger artwork so this will probably offset it) and also, it only applies to scrolling. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
I think pages of artwork like that would be cool but it should be an option and not the only way to browse. Sometimes i don't know exactly what i want to hear and i like to flip through covers and browse. Sometimes i know what i want so give me quick text menus and precise search options. -- nathan_h nathan_h's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22786 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Bringing up a page of album art like that would be way too slow. The speed squeezebox server can serve the art seems to be an issue. Just look at the art being populated when you bring up the 5 album under an artist using the current iPeng. You would have to wait 5 seconds for a page of art just load at the least. Performance should be the #1 goal, IMO. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
There are two things on my mind related to the additional real estate available on the iPad. Browsing/Selecting by album art - I'm very visual and when I browse as opposed to look for something specific I do it in a very visual ways Lots of big album art and not so much text. What room am I controlling? - For the women of the world that will use this new iPad app (thanks to the iPad form factor and ease of use that number has the potential to go way up) I need to know what I'm controlling at a glance rather than dig/slid through pages and pages to see if I'm inadvertently going to turn the music on or up in another room. Most of us will put up with making that mistake but alot of women will just consider it not easy enough, not usable. +---+ |Filename: iPAD-Squeezecontrol.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=10430| +---+ -- tbowland tbowland's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39675 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
BTW, could we move this discussion here http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51929&page=193 This is a thread about how iPeng 4 Pad should look like. -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
jonbauer;566721 Wrote: > > It only appears on my iPad, not on my iPhone... > Ah. You mean the grey bar the iPad puts in place of the status bar? No influence on that one. Like the top one here: http://penguinlovesmusic.de/wp-content/gallery/ipeng-1-2/ipadls2.png If it's immediately on top of your artwork chances are that it's actually PART of your artwork. Where did iPeng crash? -- pippin --- see iPeng, the Squeezebox iPhone remote, at penguinlovesmusic.com pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPeng on iPad - How should it look like?
Not the status bar - it's a grey bar that is at the top of the screen (not the tippy top where the status bar is) - it is on top of the album art... My iPeng crashed at one point... Maybe it's some kinda residual grey bar? - Jon -- jonbauer jonbauer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13615 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=74581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
