[slim] Wireless bridge on SB3 - happy user
Bought a new Windows 7 PC this week, it didn't come with a wireless networking card but has several free PCI Express slots, looked at buying a wireless card but there seems to be a lot uncertainty over Windows 7 driver support for these type of cards and a few horror stories out there. Remembered my SB3 can act as a wireless bridge, so relocated it nearer this PC and hooked up an ethernet cable, re-ran network setup on my SB3 and turned the bridge feature on - worked first time and works every time. -- Kevint SB3, Boom, Radio Kevint's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72682 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic
dminches;363155 Wrote: > I am bridging to a DirecTV Hr20-700. If what you are saying is correct, > it must support auto-switching. > > On a side note, does the SB3 manual discuss this cabling requirement? Yes it does, briefly. Although it's not specific to the SB3, you need a crossover (or auto MDIX) whenever you directly connect two devices without a switch. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55390 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic
dminches wrote: > I am using "regular" cat5 cabling and it is working fine. Maybe the > cable has crossover capability but I didn't think so. How can one tell > the difference? A lot of modern devices self detect. The only way I know to easily tell is to plug both ends into a ethernet tester. If you have really good eyes, you may be able to pick out the color codes on the RJ45 If both look like this picture, then its straigt http://www.pfarrell.com/misc/rj45_patch.gif Some info here: http://www.pfarrell.com/technotes/rj45wiring.html -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic
I am bridging to a DirecTV Hr20-700. If what you are saying is correct, it must support auto-switching. On a side note, does the SB3 manual discuss this cabling requirement? -- dminches SB3> CI Audio VDA-2> Aragon Soundstage> Aragon 8008X3> Vandersteen 3A Sigs dminches's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55390 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic
It's not really very easy to tell by looking at it, which is why they're usually marked. As an addendum to what sc53 said, a regular patch cord will work for a direct connection if one or both of the devices supports auto switching. The SB classic doesn't, but many other devices (computers etc) do. It's possible that whatever you have it connected to is auto switching so you don't need a crossover. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55390 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic
sc53;363096 Wrote: > Make sure you are using a crossover ethernet cable rather than a regular > one. They look the same but the bridging won't work with the regular, > non-crossover cable. I am using "regular" cat5 cabling and it is working fine. Maybe the cable has crossover capability but I didn't think so. How can one tell the difference? -- dminches SB3> CI Audio VDA-2> Aragon Soundstage> Aragon 8008X3> Vandersteen 3A Sigs dminches's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12606 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55390 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic
or you can also use an ethernet switch with auto switching between the SB3 and your other devices. Mike -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Business Unit slimdevices.com mvalera's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11086 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55390 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic
Make sure you are using a crossover ethernet cable rather than a regular one. They look the same but the bridging won't work with the regular, non-crossover cable. -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55390 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge function sb classic
akushnir;362381 Wrote: > > Could this attempt at connecting another device through the SB bridge > function have crashed my router? Maybe, but it really shouldn't cause any problems. Give it another go and see what happens. You may have DHCP problems when using bridging, in which case use a static IP for either the SB, the DVR or both. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55390 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] wireless bridge function sb classic
My SB classic works great via wireless about 80ft from my router.I just got a DirectTV HDDVR with internet capability which sits next to the SB so I wanted to use the SB as a wireless bridge rather than run a cable. I turned bridging on. I followed the directions for the Direct TV box. My tv showed that indeed the network was connected, but I couldn't get a internet connection on the DirectTV box. Later, I found that my internet was down and I had to do a cable modem and router reset. I haven't tried the setup again. Could this attempt at connecting another device through the SB bridge function have crashed my router? Is there something else I need to be careful of before trying this again? Thanks for any suggestions. Alan -- akushnir akushnir's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55390 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless Bridge problems after latest firmware
I upgraded to SC 7.2 and had to upgrade my SB3 firmware. I have a NAS connected via cross over ethernet to the back of the SB3. Since upgrading to the new firmware, I keep losing my connection with the NAS. I'm using XP, SC 7.2, SB3 Firmware 112 Any ideas? Is there anyway of rolling back the firmware and going back to SC 7.1? -- Merlin Merlin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=51955 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet
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Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet
I just bought a controller/receiver and am really impressed. However, I miss the ability to bridge the wired/wireless networks that I have with my SB3s & Transporter. I've voted for bug #9024. Can anyone provide a link to the perl hack discussed above and used to enable this feature? Much thanks, George -- mrthreeplates mrthreeplates's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=565 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50635 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet
Yea, i understand the topology problem and making sure everything stays user proof. I just put up a entry on the Bugzilla site and it describes a way to have the receiver seamlessly make the feature available, based on its ability to reach the 'server' ip over one or the network interface. As for bridging primarily being discussed for the Controller, maybe that makes sense from your close up developer/creator perspective. It is a bit of a stretch from the user side - it is still unclear to the well informed forum participants if the controller is talking to SqueezeCenter or the Receiver, and doing it directly with the Receiver on a hidden adhoc connection, or it is going through the established wireless router and SSID to get there. I understood it once, but seem to have forgotten which way it goes now. Anyway, maybe the Bugzilla entry is of some help, otherwise thanks for responding. John -- johndewey johndewey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16444 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50635 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet
Usually when we talk about bridge mode on the receiver, we are referring to the capability where if you have no preexisting wireless network, the receiver can act as a wireless bridge in order to give the wireless _controller_ access to the wired network. This is a quite common scenario that is easy to set up. What you're describing is significantly different, because instead of communicating "ad hoc" between paired devices, what you're really doing is setting up the receiver as a client to your existing access point, while also enabling bridging. This is considered a far more unusual/advanced setup, which is why it is not exposed in the UI. Also, this capability makes it easy to inadvertently create loops in the LAN topology, so we don't want uninitiated users running into it when they're really trying to set up the more usual "bridge mode". -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50635 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet
Don't get me wrong, I love my Duet. Sometimes I am a bit frustrated with it and I doubt I am alone on that one. It is an odd mix of simplicity and incredible complexity. But so is the problem of having accumulated 30 years of music and wanting it organized and accessible. I think SlimDevices has a great product that has a very simple/elegant system architecture. I wish I had the time to join up with the developer effort. As for bridging being an undocumented feature, I now see that you are 100% correct. It is not on the spec page, nor is it in the user manual. For earlier hardware models it does appear in both places. HOWEVER, I am perplexed as to why this feature appears in almost every one of the bountiful Duet reviews. Must be that all those reviewers are also fluent with perl. Enough said, I await its incorporation into one of the two user interfaces. Thanks and Cheers John -- johndewey johndewey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16444 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50635 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet
johndewey wrote: > reasonable enough. > here is the situation: > > I have a duet controller and receiver working fine in wireless mode > using either squeeze network or squeeze center. > > i want to use the receiver as a bridge and on the receiver side, place > either my NAS or initially a wired print print server. > > i connect the cable between the print server and the receiver. hold > down the button on the front until it blinks read. after booting up > receiver ethernet lights up orange with blinking green. same with > print server. > > i ping the receiver, everything is fine. > i ping the print server, no response. if i move the print server and > ping it on a wired connection, it works. print server has a fixed ip > on the same top three ip segments (xxx.xxx.xxx.ip) > > also, after the early mentioned rebooting of the receiver and using the > controller to re-setup the receiver, thecontroller gives me the option > of a wireless or Ethernet connection, which it does not normally do if > nothing is plugged into the receiver's Ethernet socket. > > so, i believe that the receiver sees the print server, and establishes > a valid Ethernet connection to it, regardless of the use of a crossover > cable. I also believe that the print server is not 'bridged' onto my > wireless network, though the receiver clearly is. thus the bridge > connection is not working. > > so, i go a'googling to see what i can learn, and hidden among the > thousands of reviews touting the bridging feature, i find a few pages > about a program called something like net:udp that a few people are > discussing as a way to 'turn on' the bridging feature. this is a perl > shell program, whatever that is, that some fearless person has > developed to get this working. i try to install perl on my computer > which seems to work, but am less than ignorant about it. i find a few > perl scripts on the net:udp program site and down load them and try to > "run" them. i have no clue what i am doing and i can not get it > working, and am thus frustrated. regardless, i am not really happy > about having to learn perl when this feature ought to be automatic, or > at least easily turned on via the controller or squeezecenter. > > thanks for your speedy response,and thanks for reading through to the > end of my long post. at some other time i will re-install perl and > regenerate the error messages and seek help. hopefully this setting > will be user accessible before i end up doing that again. > I don't see any bridging functionality advertised on http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_duet.html#network For an undocumented feature having to use Perl to access it is not too bad, is it? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet
reasonable enough. here is the situation: I have a duet controller and receiver working fine in wireless mode using either squeeze network or squeeze center. i want to use the receiver as a bridge and on the receiver side, place either my NAS or initially a wired print print server. i connect the cable between the print server and the receiver. hold down the button on the front until it blinks read. after booting up receiver ethernet lights up orange with blinking green. same with print server. i ping the receiver, everything is fine. i ping the print server, no response. if i move the print server and ping it on a wired connection, it works. print server has a fixed ip on the same top three ip segments (xxx.xxx.xxx.ip) also, after the early mentioned rebooting of the receiver and using the controller to re-setup the receiver, thecontroller gives me the option of a wireless or Ethernet connection, which it does not normally do if nothing is plugged into the receiver's Ethernet socket. so, i believe that the receiver sees the print server, and establishes a valid Ethernet connection to it, regardless of the use of a crossover cable. I also believe that the print server is not 'bridged' onto my wireless network, though the receiver clearly is. thus the bridge connection is not working. so, i go a'googling to see what i can learn, and hidden among the thousands of reviews touting the bridging feature, i find a few pages about a program called something like net:udp that a few people are discussing as a way to 'turn on' the bridging feature. this is a perl shell program, whatever that is, that some fearless person has developed to get this working. i try to install perl on my computer which seems to work, but am less than ignorant about it. i find a few perl scripts on the net:udp program site and down load them and try to "run" them. i have no clue what i am doing and i can not get it working, and am thus frustrated. regardless, i am not really happy about having to learn perl when this feature ought to be automatic, or at least easily turned on via the controller or squeezecenter. thanks for your speedy response,and thanks for reading through to the end of my long post. at some other time i will re-install perl and regenerate the error messages and seek help. hopefully this setting will be user accessible before i end up doing that again. john -- johndewey johndewey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16444 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50635 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet
Can you describe the problem you are having in a little more detail? It should "just work", but if it doesn't, let us know how we can help... -- dean dean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50635 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] wireless bridge frustration with duet
frustration, arg. someone, please tell me there is an easier way to get wireless bridging working than learning the perl/svn tool set? i just spent the afternoon sifting through some 2000 hits in google on the wireless bridge feature, all but a handful being blissfully ignorant praises in various reviews. john -- johndewey johndewey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16444 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50635 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge & Yamaha Network Receiver
Yep, I've always used a crossover cable. Moreover, I've also tried using a standard ethernet cable. -- spinaltap spinaltap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18224 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50356 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge & Yamaha Network Receiver
Are you using a straight ethernet cable or a crossover cable? If the ethernet port on the Yamaha is not autosensing you will need a crossover cable. -- 4mula1 SqueezeCenter 7.1 + Solaris 10 x86: Because everything else would've been easy! '4mula1 on Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/4mula1) 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50356 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless Bridge & Yamaha Network Receiver
Here's a strange one to solve, one that even technical support cannot fathom (but they thought you guys might have the answer)... Before I bought my SB3 I routinely listened to internet radio via my Yamaha RX-V2700 Network Receiver - connected to an Apple Airport Express (N) via ethernet (which acted as an ethernet bridge) that received streams from my Netgear DG834N router. Moreover, no problem was encountered in setting-up this system. I purchased the SB3 due to the inflexibility of the v.Tuner software inherent in the Yamaha receiver. That is, stations such as SmoothJazz.Com could only be heard at 44kbps via the Yamaha and with no option to seek a higher bit-rate stream. Reason suggests that the SB3 would act as a wireless bridge to for the Yamaha unit in the same manner as the Airport Express. You might wonder, why bother? In response, the SB3 blows the internal Yamaha internet radio out of the water - but I'm a dog with a bone between his teeth; I would simply like the Yamaha receiver to work fully as it did before. The problem is that the Yamaha will not make a connection with the SB3 working as a wireless bridge in the same way that the Apple Airport Express did. To ensure that the wireless bridge in the SB3 is working normally, I borrowed a Windoze laptop and switched-off its wireless functionality. Connected via ethernet, the SB3 acted as normal as a wireless bridge. The MAC address (and ip address) of the Yamaha and the SB3 have been entered into the Netgear router's set-up pane - as usual - but no luck in making the vital through-connection. Any ideas? -- spinaltap spinaltap's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18224 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50356 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
dloose;295205 Wrote: > why does the SB v3 seem to top out at 3-5 Mb/sec (at least using the > built-in test plug-in)? It doesn't, that's just the network test plugin's maximum. Streaming audio files, you'll never need to go higher than about 5 Mbps, which would be 24/96 WAV (4608 kbps). -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
I'm just curious - If maximum bandwidth of .11g is 54 Mb/s and typical throughput is about 19 Mb/s, why does the SB v3 seem to top out at 3-5 Mb/sec (at least using the built-in test plug-in)? I'm using the SB in bridge mode to a Denon 3808CI and get not-infrequent drop-outs. -- dloose dloose's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17099 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge Capability with SqueezeCenter
peterw;293430 Wrote: > That's a firmware feature of the Squeezebox, not a SqueezeCenter > feature. It works fine with SqueezeCenter 7 and the Squeezebox firmware > that SC7 prefers. This wiki page explains what you need to do: > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign > The step most people forget is to connect the other device to the > Squeezebox *before* holding the left arrow on the remote. If the > Squeezebox doesn't have an active Ethernet link to another device, it > won't let you enable bridging. Ah, thanks... I never knew this. It was just a coincidence that it worked the first time... -- anonymouse anonymouse's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8471 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46548 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge Capability with SqueezeCenter
That's a firmware feature of the Squeezebox, not a SqueezeCenter feature. It works fine with SqueezeCenter 7 and the Squeezebox firmware that SC7 prefers. This wiki page explains what you need to do: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign The step most people forget is to connect the other device to the Squeezebox *before* holding the left arrow on the remote. If the Squeezebox doesn't have an active Ethernet link to another device, it won't let you enable bridging. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver FuzzyTime PlayLog PowerCenter/BottleRocket SaverSwitcher SleepFade StatusFirst SyncOptions VolumeLock peterw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2107 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46548 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless Bridge Capability with SqueezeCenter
Am I missing something or is the capability to do wireless bridging (I am using Squeezebox V3) gone with SqueezeCenter 7.0? If it's there, can someone point me to where the setting is buried? Thanks in advance... -- anonymouse anonymouse's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8471 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46548 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge "the other way around"
robbin;278518 Wrote: > Why wouldn't this work in ad hoc mode? because it doesn't have the software to allow devices to connect to it and then relay the data over the network. Which is just another way of saying it doesn't have the software to be an AP :) -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44522 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge "the other way around"
>>Why wouldn't this work in ad hoc mode? Because, I think, the Squeezebox isn't broadcasting a wireless signal. It's not an access point, just a bridge. My understanding is that the wireless bridge only allows cabled devices to hook on to a wireless network (i.e. the Squeezebox is receiving wirelessly, then pushing out via the cable port). -- hunta hunta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44522 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge "the other way around"
Why wouldn't this work in ad hoc mode? -- robbin robbin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14714 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44522 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge "the other way around"
Maybe I was not clear enough... I want to use a wi-fi enabled laptop to connect to the Squeezebox wi-fi antenna. I have a wi-fi router in the bedroom but the laptop does not pick up the signal in the living room. I know that the Squeezebox has this bridging capability, so it would be nice to use it. Thanks! -- dudesinmexico dudesinmexico's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44522 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge "the other way around"
You don't need to use the bridging function for this. All control is done though SqueezeCenter, just open a web browser and point it to http://:9000/ and you will get the web interface from your iMac. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44522 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless bridge "the other way around"
My Squeezebox is connected to an iMac running SqueezeCenter through a ethernet-over-power adapter. I would like to control the Squeezebox with my laptop via wi-fi. Is there a way to configure the Squeezebox as a bridge in this way? -- dudesinmexico dudesinmexico's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6501 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44522 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
seanadams;262463 Wrote: > I am looking at our bridging implementation, and it is designed to > forward to all ports in the event of a unicast packet whose MAC is not > in its table. It is not clear to me if this is our problem or if > something else is going on, so I am hesitant to open a bug without > knowing any specifics. > > It would be helpful to know whether the access point is actually > sending the packet out to the wireless lan in the first place. To test > that, put a wireless PC on it and run ethereal. I am not sure but I > think you can monitor unicast traffic to other hosts that way without > any special setup - you probably would need to disable encryption. I was so happy getting the thing to work, that I thought of not doing any further investigations. But, as you seem to be concerned, I took my laptop and started testing. Based on my non-scientific approach, it seems that the access point (ADSL-modem w/ WLAN) is the one to blame! So, I'd say that there is no need dig further on SB3's bridging implementation. As I had windump already installed, I used it on two machines, other being on the LAN and the other on WLAN. On ADSL modem I had two IP addresses with static ARP, the other with the real one and the other with MAC broadcast. Then I changed several times the IP address where the modem should forward the WOL-packet coming from dslreports.com. Not a single packet appeared on the WLAN with the real MAC address, but when I changed the address to the broadcast MAC, they were nicely printed out on the screen of the laptop on WLAN. All packets of course were received by the PC on LAN. I will make a note for the tech guys at ADSL modem manufacturer. Best regards, Mika -- hau hau's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4495 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
Siduhe;261365 Wrote: > If people think it's helpful, they could always amend up the wiki too: > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign Done, but newbies don't seem to like or use the wiki. :-( -- Mark Lanctot Sean Adams: "So you mean, aside from the fact that Squeezebox does not do 96KHz, why doesn't it do 96KHz?" Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
I am looking at our bridging implementation, and it is designed to forward to all ports in the event of a unicast packet whose MAC is not in its table. It is not clear to me if this is our problem or if something else is going on, so I am hesitant to open a bug without knowing any specifics. It would be helpful to know whether the access point is actually sending the packet out to the wireless lan in the first place. To test that, put a wireless PC on it and run ethereal. I am not sure but I think you can monitor unicast traffic to other hosts that way - you probably would need to disable encryption. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
seanadams;262284 Wrote: > Hmm. So here's an idea: try making that static ARP entry point to the > broadcast MAC: "FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF". > > This is a very strange and generally inadviseable thing as if it works, > it will let someone on the internet create broadcast traffic on your > LAN. However it would be an interesting test to do, although it is > possible that your router will (justifiably) refuse to send the packet > to the broadcast MAC via a static ARP entry. However if it works then > maybe firewalling that port to only allow your remote IP to reach it > would be acceptable to you. > The idea was more than interesting to test, it also worked. Thank you very much! I will have to go thru of course the security issues. (Security by obscurity might not be enough...) The firewall allows me to restrict outside connections to my LAN, so that shouldn't be a problem. seanadams;262284 Wrote: > > Another thing to try would be to use a port redirect to send it to the > broadcast IP, usually X.X.X.255. That was my first idea, but (not surprisingly) the router configuration interface didn't allow that. Best regards, Mika -- hau hau's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4495 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
hau;262161 Wrote: > The problem is that the packet which is sent from the internet is > otherwise structured as a WOL packet, but in fact is a UDP packet sent > to a certain address (unicast). (My ADSL router then forwards it > internally to the specified address.) > Hmm. So here's an idea: try making that static ARP entry point to the broadcast MAC: "FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF". This is a very strange and generally inadviseable thing as if it works, it will let someone on the internet create broadcast traffic on your LAN. However it would be an interesting test to do, although it is possible that your router will (justifiably) refuse to send the packet to the broadcast MAC via a static ARP entry. However if it works then maybe firewalling that port to only allow your remote IP to reach it would be acceptable to you. Another thing to try would be to use a port redirect to send it to the broadcast IP, usually X.X.X.255. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
seanadams;262142 Wrote: > The WOL packet is a broadcast so it shouldn't matter, but to answer your > question I believe if it doesn't know it will behave like a hub and send > it to all ports. The problem is that the packet which is sent from the internet is otherwise structured as a WOL packet, but in fact is a UDP packet sent to a certain address (unicast). (My ADSL router then forwards it internally to the specified address.) I have now used windump (tcpdump) and found out that the packet actually comes to my net and is destined to the right IP. I hope to find a PC with wireless card for the weekend to check that the packet is also sent over the air. Then, I think, it is easier to track down the problem. Cheers, Mika -- hau hau's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4495 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
hau;262108 Wrote: > What happens when it doesn't know who's on which side? > The WOL packet is a broadcast so it shouldn't matter, but to answer your question I believe if it doesn't know it will behave like a hub and send it to all ports. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
seanadams;172362 Wrote: > When the SB3 is operating in bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on > the ethernet side and who is on the wireless side - it knows where to > send a packet. > What happens when it doesn't know who's on which side? Reason I'm asking this, is that I'm trying to use WOL to wake up my living room PC from internet (using e.g. dslreports.com's wakeup service http://www.dslreports.com/wakeup). If I send a WOL magic packet from my local net it of course spreads via WLAN to SB3 and, as it is a broadcast packet, SB3 forwards it to the ethernet port and the PC wakes up. When I'm using the dslreports' 'service' the packet comes to my network as a _unicast_ packet. I have configured my ADSL-modem/router with static ARP for the PC, and a rule to forward UDP port 9 packets to the PC's IP address. When I've connected the PC to one of the ADSL-modem/router's ethernet ports send the packet from internet, my PC wakes up. When I place the PC on SB3's ethernet port and send the packet from the same site the PC stays powered off. In my understanding there might be two reasons for this. - Either the ADSL device forgets to forward the packet to WLAN along with all the ethernet ports, or - SB3 drops the packet as it doesn't know that the addressee is on its ethernet port. After some email exchange with the tech guys from modem manufacturer, they assure me that all packets that are distributed to the ethernet ports will also be sent to WLAN. If this is the case, then the SB3 drops the packet and I'd like to know whether it would be possible to change the behavior of SB3's IP stack in such a way, that if it doesn't know (no entry in ARP table?) the recipients 'location' on the net, it would forward the packet? Best regards, Mika -- hau hau's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4495 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
seanadams;261337 Wrote: > Because setup is far too long already, and most newbies won't have a > clue what "bridging" means. It may help to pop up the option is > ethernet is plugged in post-setup, but prompting every single user > about a feature they probably won't recognize, much less want, would > not be good. Having to go turn it back on every time I use it is also painful though (I don't leave it permanently as a bridge) -- thing-fish ' Most Recent Tracks' (http://www.last.fm/user/thing-fish/?chartstyle=basicrt10) thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
Peter;261359 Wrote: > Are there conceivable network configurations where an SB is connected > via both wired and wireless and bridging would not be desired? > Bridging a network segment to itself can indeed cause some problems. Folks who have had their network setup by the ISP, and who opt for wireless have everything on one segment - and at least some of the "firewall"/routers supplied by the ISPs don't detect bad bridging. So it'd be problems for the folks least able to just whip out a sniffer and figure out what's gone wrong (and detecting improper bridging can be hard even with a sniffer). IMHO, best to do what they did - but doc it, and maybe add a "are you REALLY sure?" additional right-arrow needed in the setup. -- bobkoure bobkoure's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14646 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
It's also on page 20 of the manual. It doesn't explicitly say that the cable must be connected to see the option, but if you follow the steps in the instructions exactly it will work :) -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
It is in the FAQ (see 'here' (http://slimdevices.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/slimdevices.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=5997&p_created=1168549341&p_sid=f8t7YnWi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ9MSwxJnBfcHJvZHM9MCZwX2NhdHM9JnBfcHY9JnBfY3Y9JnBfcGFnZT0xJnBfc2VhcmNoX3RleHQ9YnJpZGdpbmc*&p_li=&p_topview=1)). If people think it's helpful, they could always amend up the wiki too: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?NetworkDesign -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
seanadams wrote: bulletmark;261287 Wrote: Rather than "fix" the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not? Because setup is far too long already, and most newbies won't have a clue what "bridging" means. It may help to pop up the option is ethernet is plugged in post-setup, but prompting every single user about a feature they probably won't recognize, much less want, would not be good. Still, I've seen people confused about how to enable bridging in here lots of times. I think I had trouble myself the first time. What problems could it cause if bridging was enabled by default? Are there conceivable network configurations where an SB is connected via both wired and wireless and bridging would not be desired? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
bulletmark;261287 Wrote: > Rather than "fix" the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks > the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not? Because setup is far too long already, and most newbies won't have a clue what "bridging" means. It may help to pop up the option is ethernet is plugged in post-setup, but prompting every single user about a feature they probably won't recognize, much less want, would not be good. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
Mitch Harding;261302 Wrote: > One possible reason not to always ask it is because I'm guessing that > most people do not use this feature, and it may even confuse some > people who do not know what it means. SD may figure that anyone who > understands the feature will be sufficiently motivated to research how > to set it up. > C'mon, with all the other "complicated" network questions in there, is one more really going to make much difference? Also, to somebody sufficiently unmotivated to understand what that last question means, then is it really going to matter which way he answers it anyhow? And yes, certainly at the end of the day, somebody like me shouldn't have to scratch his head and go to the forums to find the simple answer. -- bulletmark bulletmark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15014 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
One possible reason not to always ask it is because I'm guessing that most people do not use this feature, and it may even confuse some people who do not know what it means. SD may figure that anyone who understands the feature will be sufficiently motivated to research how to set it up. That said, if it's not in the manual, it would be nice to have it in there. I've never read my manual, so I'm not sure what's in there. :) On Jan 21, 2008 5:54 PM, bulletmark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, thinking about it, scratch that suggestion of mine above. > Rather than "fix" the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks > the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not? > > Surely that is simpler for all? Then you won't have newbies like me > wondering why the hell the question was not presented and spending ages > looking for it around the menus and then finally finding the answer in > the depths of these forums. After all, most aren't like me ... they > don't actually read the manual at all. > > > > -- > bulletmark > > bulletmark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15014 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
Actually, thinking about it, scratch that suggestion of mine above. Rather than "fix" the manual, why not fix the software so that it asks the question whether the wired ethernet is active or not? Surely that is simpler for all? Then you won't have newbies like me wondering why the hell the question was not presented and spending ages looking for it around the menus and then finally finding the answer in the depths of these forums. After all, most aren't like me ... they don't actually read the manual at all. -- bulletmark bulletmark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15014 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
seanadams;261109 Wrote: > The option is only offered if you choose wireless setup AND an ethernet > link is detected. Aha, that's the trick. From a newbie here, this should be in the manual. -- bulletmark bulletmark's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15014 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
Espen;261108 Wrote: > Thanks. Works as it should. Had not noticed the bridge option in the > setup menu before. The option is only offered if you choose wireless setup AND an ethernet link is detected. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
Thanks. Works as it should. Had not noticed the bridge option in the setup menu before. -- Espen Espen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
It works great, I use it a lot. You need to make sure of a few things: Use a crossover cable (unless the NIC on the server is auto-sensing) Make sure bridging is enabled - go back through network setup with the server connected via ethernet and you will see the option to enable it. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless bridge? Does it work?
I have read here and there that "Squeezebox also acts as wireless bridge". I did a quick test last evening without luck. When I connected my music server to an SB3 it failed to aquire an IP address on boot. The DHCP server did not log any attempts either. The SB3 unix is connected to a Linksys WRT54G with WPA, but the Linksys unit is not the DHCP server itself. The WRT54G is connected to a regular wired 3com router with an embedded DHCP server. Is it worth examining a bit more or is this a dead end? Would it help with a fixed IP? I do not quite remember now, but I think the firmware version is 81. -- Espen Espen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42534 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge Setup problem
sand;247534 Wrote: > Also, must I have the laptop that I'm planning to connect attached while > enabliing it? Yes, that's the issue. It must see something on the wireless side. Once you tell it to connect wirelessly but it sees something on the wired side it will ask you if you want to bridge. Also you may have to use a crossover cable if you're connecting a laptop to it. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40880 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless Bridge Setup problem
Hi all, I can't find where to enable the Wireless Bridge on my SB3. I've tried unplugging and then going through the network installation steps again, but I don't get the option to enable it! Please, exactly how should I do? Also, must I have the laptop that I'm planning to connect attached while enabliing it? Thank's in advance! -- sand Squeezebox 3 QNAP TS-109 Seagate ES 500GB SlimServer Version: 6.5.4 - 12568 - Debian - EN - utf8 Server IP address: 192.168.1.4 Perl Version: 5.8.8 arm-linux-gnu-thread-multi MySQL Version: 5.0.41 sand's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40880 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge DHCP Problems Solved?
I have the exact same problem when using WPA-2 and DHCP on the bridged Ethernet, all other security settings are OK. It is at the key refresh time the error occurs, after that the DHCP does not work beyond the bridge -- allisong allisong's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9226 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless bridge w DOS client half works
I'm sorry if the following paragraphs seem to jump around a little. I've copied them from my Logitech support e-mails (over a period of weeks), with no solution from the support team. They suggested I try the forum. Sorry about the length of this post too, but describing everything I've tried might save a bit of to-and-froing. I've done minimal edits to try to improve the flow... The touch-screen PC that I've programmed to control my (complex!) audio system runs DOS 6.22 with Microsoft NET Client V3.11. In my previous house I had this connected to my main (Win2000) PC via Cat5 cable. Because there is no TCP/IP utility with NET (I found later there is - see below), I accessed this touch PC using NetBIOS (in both directions). Having recently moved to a new house, I was hoping to avoid running a cable between floors by using the wireless bridge facility of my recently-acquired Squeezebox 3. I connected the touch-PC to the Squeezebox via a crossover cable, and the green light on the touch-PC indicates it has a hardware ethernet connection. I enabled wirelss bridging on the Squeezebox, but I don't get a network connection in either direction between the two PCs (but things improved - see later). OK, I finally found time to spend on this problem. I found information on the 'net that eventually (after many hours!) allowed me to get TCP/IP running on my DOS machine (using Microsoft drivers, as it happens - there's a bug in their installation procedure that omits a vital file!). When that DOS PC is plugged directly into my wireless router (wired Ethernet port) I can still share resources between the two machines (my main PC runs Win2K, remember), moving files between them for example (only in a DOS window on the Win2K machine). I could also 'ping' my Win machine from the DOS machine, getting a response: [1] echo received from 192.168.1.1 with roundtrip < 50 msec But when I take the DOS machine back upstairs and plug it into the Squeezebox, it fails to establish the 'shares' that succeed when directly connected. But I can still ping the Win2K machine, with the same (successful) result as above. On the DOS machine, DHCP was enabled (not now - see below), but caused problems. So I've now changed the Touch-PC's network configuration to use a fixed IP address, and then done some more tests. To simplify the following discussion, I will refer to each PC by its network name: HIFI is the DOS-based touch PC (running Microsoft Network Client 3.11) wireless bridged via a Squeezebox 3, and ADVSOL5 is the Win2K machine with a wireless router attached (also the network 'gateway', though I don't think this is relevant, since I'm not wanting to access anything other than Advsol5 from HiFi). When HiFi and Advsol5 are connected by Ethernet cable (via a wired Ethernet port in the back of the wireless router), HiFi 'connects' to Advsol5 OK during boot-up (can then access Advsol5's disc drives and printer), and Advsol5 also connects with HiFi (can access HiFi's drives). Keep in mind that accessing HiFi from Advsol5 always requires opening a DOS window and using only DOS commands – if I try to look at HiFi drives via Windows Explorer (the HiFi name does appear in the list of networked computers) it causes an error saying something like 'this network function not supported'. I can ping successfully in both directions. On HiFi I have both NetBEUI and TCP/IP protocols enabled. If I disable NetBEUI (leaving TCP/IP as the ONLY protocol), HiFi then won't connect with Advsol5's drives or printer. This would suggest (to a novice like me) that the protocol being used between them is 'NetBEUI over TCP/IP'. I found the following information on a website about OS/2 networking (I think most of this is relevant to DOS too): NetBIOS (NetBEUI) over TCP/IP (called TCPBEUI on OS/2) * Implementation of NetBIOS to operate with TCP/IP as transport mechanism * Defined by RFCs 1001 and 1002 * Solves the need to route a non-routable protocol * Encapsulates NetBEUI data in a TCP/IP or UDP/IP frame * Three modes of operation - Broadcast, Point-to-Point, and Mixed/Hybrid * Service: NetBIOS Name Server (NBNS) * Service: NetBIOS Datagram Distribution (NBDD) So having got the WIRED LAN running to my satisfaction with fixed IP address on HiFi, it was back upstairs to try it over the Squeezebox wireless bridge again. At boot-up, HiFi failed to 'connect' to Advsol5's resources (drives & printer). But I could still successfully ping Advsol5, and now the ping also succeeded in the reverse direction. Furthermore, although HiFi couldn't access any Advsol5 resources (since they weren't 'connected'), Advsol5 could now access HiFi's drives! On Advsol5, HiFi's drives are given substitute names: \\hifi\c: -> T:, \\hifi\d: -> U: This drive assignment is done with the following DOS commands on Advsol5: net use t: \\hifi\c net use u: \\hifi\d (having instructed HiFi [in its AUTOEXEC.BAT] to share its C: drive as 'c' and D: drive as 'd') With a wired
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge?
You can flash your WRT54GL with third-party firmware, like dd-wrt, and boost the power and range of the access point. I think on the highest safe setting, you'd have no problem getting a signal in even a very large house (unless you have unusual interior features). -- jth jth's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge?
Thanks so much for the response. I'm definately not a network expert, which is why I asked the quesiton. I'll try the WRT54GL first, which was plan A, and if that doesn't work look into power line adapters and what ever other options there may be. I really appreciate this forum. Thanks again. -- Doukg Walch Doukg Walch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge?
I'm no networking expert, but I've never heard of such an arrangement. Your ISP may or may not go for it - they may want to sell you two connections. You probably won't be able to do this with one connection, usually they restrict you to one IP address so to get two cable modems, you need two IP addresses and two connections - two times the cost. Also I don't believe wireless networking can work that way. The networks would be competing, not cooperating. If you set them to the same channel with the same SSID they'd conflict with each other and the SB would connect to the strongest one, one at a time, not both. If you're looking at something this complex, it would be cheaper and more effective to get powerline adapters, which use your high-power wiring as networking cables. But, try out your WRT54GL first. If you can't get enough signal, you can return the wireless router and get powerline adapters. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910&postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless Bridge?
Please bear with me becauses my terminology is not so great. I recently ordered a squeeze box for a house we recently moved into. There is no way to run cat 5 in this house and our office is at one end of the house and the entertainment center is at the other end of the house. In anticipation of connecting to the SB I ordered a Linksys Wireless Broadband G router (WRT54GL). So while I sit here waiting for everything to arrive, including my internet service provider, it occured to me today that since I have cable outlets in both location, in the event I don't have a strong enough signal, perhaps I could install a cable modem at both ends of the house, with wireless routers at both ends of the house and I think I wojld then then have a bridged network, with the wireless signal overlapping, providing a better signal to the SB. But the specifics of this escape me. So my questions are: 1) is this practical? 2) if so, on SB side of the house, can I then plug the SB into the router via cat 5, and control it via the wireless bridge? Or, would it be better to leave the SB in wireless mode. 3) Assuming this is doable, can someone provide good reference material to read on how to configure this? Of course all this assumes I can get two cable modems installed which i neeed to confirm with my provider. But I thought I'd ask the question here first. I'm sure there are good wireless forums to help with this, but again, I've gotten good help here so i thought i start here first. Thanks! Doug -- Doukg Walch Doukg Walch's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37511 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless bridge and firmware versions
Is there a record of how the wireless network card config has changed in the different SB firmware versions? I'm using a SB2 connected via cat5 to a Linkstation with the wireless card in the SB also configured to connect to a wireless network when it is available. Slimsever is currently at 6.2.1. If the wireless network is not available, the SB gives up looking for it and the connection to the Linstation works fine. When the wireless network is available, the connection to the Linkstation still works and I'm able to copy songs to it over the wireless. Using newer versions of Slimserver and the firmware that gets loaded on the SB2 causes the SB to give up on power up because it can't find the wireless network. The only way to get it to connect is to go through the process of enabling and disabling the wireless card as needed. I'd like to upgrade Slimserver for the new features and bug fixes and I'd like newer firmware on the SB2 so it will work with WPA. I haven't tried any versions of Slimserver past 6.2.2 on this setup since the wireless functionality was changed in that version. -- Beann50 Beann50's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5153 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37138 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge No Longer Works
You may want to reset to factory defaults, although this means you'll have to re-enter your encryption key. Unplug power, press and hold "ADD" then reconnect power. -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910&postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless Bridge No Longer Works
I have an SB2 and an SB3 which are running firmware 81 with SlimServer 6.5.2 (on a NAS); before the upgrade from 6.5.1, I was able to successfully use my SB2 as a wireless bridge, simply connecting my ethernet cable to my TViX 5000 box from my Squeezebox, pure joy! After the upgrade, no such luck. If I fire up my squeezebox and hold power to get into the settings, I see under current settings that the wireless ethernet bridge is set to NO, however, I see no way to change this. Suggestions? -- macattack macattack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working
seanadams;197794 Wrote: > No, the bridge is smart and send packets to the right place. That is, by > definition, what bridges do. If it didn't send them to the right place, > it would get stuck in a loop because the packets would just come right > back and it wouldn't know what to do with them any better than it did > the first time around! Thanks, good to know. I see now that since it has to be smart about the packets coming in over wireless, there's no reason why it should be stupid about the ones coming from ethernet. I moved my server from my wireless router to the SB last night, and will run like this for two reasons: 1) The broadband connection in my apartment is placed in the bed room. This means that my wireless router also sits there, and because of hard drive noise I have been forced to power down my SlimServer at night. Moving the server to my SB in the living room should allow it to run 24/7. 2) Once in a while the wireless strength has been too weak for the SB to stream smoothly. By the way, there's one little glitch in the network setup wizard on the SB3 (firmware 72) that made me move the server back and forth a couple of times. The option for enabling wireless bridging comes after "Connect to SlimServer", which means that there is no way to enable bridging while the server is connected to the ethernet port. To make it work, I had to move the server back to the wireless router and connect a random computer to the ethernet port before I was able to turn bridging on. Then I could remove the dummy computer, move the server to the SB again, and continue my life. I would think this whole issue would disappear if the bridging option was before "Connect to SlimServer" in the network setup. -- bogomipz bogomipz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3743 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working
bogomipz;197787 Wrote: > Why is this bad for performance? This should rather be an optimal > configuration. The SB has direct connection to the server, and the > server can once in a while be accessed through SSH over the bridged > wireless network. That's correct, this is wired to the server, so it is ideal in terms of the connectivity between the server and the SB. > Do the packets between server and SB go out over the wireless and back > because the SB is too stupid to realize this is not necessary? If > that's the case, would it be possible to fix this in the firmware? No, the bridge is smart and send packets to the right place. That is, by definition, what bridges do. If it didn't send them to the right place, it would get stuck in a loop because the packets would just come right back and it wouldn't know what to do with them any better than it did the first time around! > Also, does choosing "Connect to an ethernet network" make any difference > since the SlimServer is at the other end of the ethernet? And does > wireless bridging then work at all? If you choose "Connect to Ethernet" then you will bypass all the wireless settings, so no bridging is possible and it won't be offered. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working
Michael Herger;190252 Wrote: > some have even been bridging their slimserver machine through a SB to > the rest of the network - which isn't good for your performance, but > does work Why is this bad for performance? This should rather be an optimal configuration. The SB has direct connection to the server, and the server can once in a while be accessed through SSH over the bridged wireless network. Do the packets between server and SB go out over the wireless and back because the SB is too stupid to realize this is not necessary? If that's the case, would it be possible to fix this in the firmware? Also, does choosing "Connect to an ethernet network" make any difference since the SlimServer is at the other end of the ethernet? And does wireless bridging then work at all? Thanks -- bogomipz bogomipz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3743 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge
I had the same problem. See the following thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34191 -- pza pza's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11011 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless bridge
I am trying to bridge my slingbox thru my sb3 using a ruckus router. i go thru all the steps (enabling the bridge, connecting to network) but it wont get an ip address (dhcp)at the end how can i fix this? -- tsingle999 tsingle999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34341 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working
A quick note about bridging is that by default it is not enabled. Once you have a device plugged into the ethernet port you will have to run the network configuration on the Squeezebox again and the option to enable bridging will show up. Once bridging is on you won't have to run the config to enable it again. -- 4mula1 4mula1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3439 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working
Thanks, Misworded the addtional SB3 interms of putting it a different room to my first unit, but as you say I could plug the laptop in to either of my SB3's This is great news for me. Cheers D. -- DAL DAL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge and home working
> A quick question re the Wireless Bridge feature. If I buy another > wireless SB3 for a remote room could I plug my laptop via Ethernet in > to the SB3 and use it to access the Internet for home working via my > wireless ADSL Router? Your "another SB" is confusing me... this is already possible with the first SB?!? The idea of the bridging feature is to allow a non-wireless device connect to a wireless network. Whether this is a gaming console or your business laptop doesn't matter. (some have even been bridging their slimserver machine through a SB to the rest of the network - which isn't good for your performance, but does work). -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless Bridge and home working
Hi All, Just bought a SB3 and have to say I am very impressed ! A quick question re the Wireless Bridge feature. If I buy another wireless SB3 for a remote room could I plug my laptop via Ethernet in to the SB3 and use it to access the Internet for home working via my wireless ADSL Router? I know the manual says you can connect home gaming but I would like to VPN to my work email using this feature. Thanks in advance D. -- DAL DAL's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33922 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge DHCP Problems Solved?
i still cant seem to get myslingbox connected. it was connected when i had an unsecured network. when i changed i cant get a dhcp address... -- tsingle999 tsingle999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
So the last thing I tried was to power the router on last, but that didn't help. Does anyone know why the router might be breaking the 'bridging' of the sb? I would have thought it should be completely passive. I can't really use this configuration without a router, or a switch in place - not sure if a different router, or a switch instead would work. Thanks -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
I remember having a problem with a Netgear wireless bridge I bought for linking my PS2 to my network. The bridge couldn't connect to the network initially with WEP enabled, but if I disabled WEP it worked, then set it to 64bit WEP, and still worked, then 128bit still worked. I just figured that it was something to do with settings corruption. Reported it to both Netgear & Belkin, but go no answer from either. With a few wireless components around the house, it's a pain to visit each one changing channels, keys etc.. when testing these sort of issues. I was lucky enough to be able to run with WEP disabled until about 6 months ago when I found the neighbours sponging off my connection. -- oreillymj oreillymj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=699 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
Mark Lanctot;179995 Wrote: > ...how would that work? The player hasn't connected to the network yet, > how can SlimServer push the data to it? > > I agree, entering in a passphrase is a pain, but I can't think of any > alternatives. You could only change things once the sb was on the network, but that could easily be achieved via either a temporary ethernet cable, or a temporary wireless security setup. Once connected, you can then change the wireless settings via the web interface as often as you like, as long as you first change them on the sb, then on the wireless ap. -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
bludragon;179977 Wrote: > btw, if I ever have to type a full length randomly generated WPA key in > again using the sb remote I think I might just go nuts... Any change > of putting network settings in the web interface (with appropriate > WARNING for the foolish)? ...how would that work? The player hasn't connected to the network yet, how can SlimServer push the data to it? I agree, entering in a passphrase is a pain, but I can't think of any alternatives. -- Mark Lanctot "It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response." - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
Found a cable, took the hub out of the loop, and now it works. btw, if I ever have to type a full length randomly generated WPA key in again using the sb remote I think I might just go nuts... Any change of putting network settings in the web interface (with appropriate WARNING for the foolish)? -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
My set-up is: NSLU2> SB3> Wireless (Netgear DG834, 128bit WEP)> PC1 (WinXP), PC2 (Linux). I can ping all the units on the network and can access Slimserver running on any of the network PCs and NSLU2 which is also a NAS from the SB3. I am using DHCP but each network device has a preallocated IP. I can connect and disconnect the NSLU2 and the bridged link recovers when reconnected. Similarly, if I disable the WAP access, the SB3 remains connected to the wired NSLU Slimserver. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11354, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
I'm not using ad-hoc mode either. I tried downgrading to the firmware with slimserver 6.5.0 (FW 65 I think), turned bridging off, then back on, and it didn't work, then FW 55 (6.3.1), and it still didn't work. When going back to FW 55 I needed to re-enter the WPA key. I didn't have much time to play with it, but the symptoms were the same in all cases - if I set the ip of the wired server manually, I can ping the squeezebox, but nothing on the wireless network, and the squeezebox cannot connect to the server. Will try a factory reset tonight and let you know what happens. -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
Ramage;179625 Wrote: > Leaving my wireless bridge set-up in place, I upgraded the SB3 to FW 72. > > > On restart, the bridge worked as expected. BTW upgrading to FW72 does > not require the connection to be set up from scratch, so that the > bridge settings were left in place from FW55. > > The problem seems to be that FW72 does not allow a bridge to be set up > properly. Sean I am unable to replicate the previous failure with FW 72 at present and I haven't tried an ad-hoc connection. Maybe the full reset by switching to FW55 and back to FW72 cleared the problem - or maybe it was operator error ;-)! Perhaps Bludragon can report how he got on. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11354, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
In the test I did recently, bridging in FW72 worked fine _except_ in Ad-hoc mode. No problems bridging to a Linksys AP. If we're all seeing the same thing then we should open a bug. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
Thanks Ramage, If I get a chance later today I will try to revert to fw v55 to see if it works. -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
Leaving my wireless bridge set-up in place, I upgraded the SB3 to FW 72. On restart, the bridge worked as expected. BTW upgrading to FW72 does not require the connection to be set up from scratch, so that the bridge settings were left in place from FW55. The problem seems to be that FW72 does not allow a bridge to be set up properly. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11354, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
Ramage;179405 Wrote: > My test setup worked OK; however I was using SS v6.3.1 and SB3 FW > version 55. > > I tried the same setup today but with SS 5.6.2 FW 72 and the wireless > bridge did not work. Looks like the FW update may have broken it. Tested my setup today after downgrading the SB to FW v55, and it worked as you might expect it to, and as explained by Sean in a previous post on this thread. Conclude that the FW v72 has broken the wireless bridge, (I have no means of testing FW builds in-between). -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11354, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
Ramage;172228 Wrote: > Just to test the feasibility of your proposal I set up the following: > > * NSLU NAS+Slimserver connected to SB3 with crossover ethernet cable > * Set up wireless bridge to my main network. > > Entered all required IP addresses for my network and it worked > perfectly. > > I am able to connect the SB directly to the Slimserver on the NSLU > through the cable and also access the NSLU from my PC over the wireless > bridge, as if it was connected directly to the network. The NSLU is also > able to access the internet through the default gateway. > > Looks like what you propose will work OK My test setup worked OK; however I was using SS v6.3.1 and SB3 FW version 55. I tried the same setup today but with SS 5.6.2 FW 72 and the wireless bridge did not work. Looks like the FW update may have broken it. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11354, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
ok, it officially doesn't work for me :-( -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless bridge question
seanadams;172362 Wrote: > That is not what should happen at all. When the SB3 is operating in > bridging mode, it keeps track of who is on the ethernet side and who is > on the wireless side - it knows where to send a packet. > > Telling it to connect wirelessly just means that you want to configure > the wireless interface, but when bridging is enabled, both interfaces > are "equal". In fact it is equivalent to a three-port ethernet switch. > One interface is the ethernet port, one is the wireless port, and one > is "virtually" connected to the SB3's IP stack. > > So although that setup sounds convoluted, it really isn't... as far as > the internal bridge is concerned, there is nothing unusual about it, > and at the IP level none of it is even visible. I enabled bridging last night, with the hope of creating the following network: wireless internet gateway/router <-- wireless --> sb2 <-- wire --> hub <-- wire --> slimserver Both the sb and server were set to use DHCP, with the router supplying ip addresses etc. Squeezebox connected to the network ok, and could connect to squeezenetwork, but not my own server. Meanwhile my server did not get DHCP. Setting it's ip manually (to use the router as a gateway) meant it could ping the squeezebox, but not access the internet, or be accessed by the squeezebox. I'm using slimserver 6.5.1 with matching firmware At that point I gave up thinking this type of scenario simply hadn't been tested, but that the solution would be exactly what Sean has described above. Having now read Sean's post, I'm keen to hear any ideas as to where I might have gone wrong? One thing I just though of, is do the pc's on the wired portion of the network need to treat the squeezebox as the gateway, rather than the wireless router - means none of them can have dhcp, but that shouldn't be a huge issue - will try this tonight... -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless bridge question
If I connect my server to a squeezebox 2 with the ethernet cable, can I then access the server wirelessly using the Wireless bridge function in the squeezebox, without having to have a seperate wireless access card in the server. I just want to use a VERY simple stripped down server. -- Puggie Puggie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless Bridge Just Doesn't Work
Hi all, Surely I must be doing something wrong here, I just cannot get the wireless bridge mode of the SB2 to work... how hard can it be? The situation is this: Linux Box (LB1) in Study, running Slimserver 6.5 (this box is also DHCP server, runs broadband gateway, etc). D-Link DI-524 in Study connected to Linux Box SB2 in Bedroom, normal stuff, no bridging SB2 in Lounge, trying to bridge to a second Linux Box (LB2) SB2s are on firmware 64 from the 6.5 server. Turned on wireless bridge function on the Lounge SB2, connected to LB2 with crossover cable. 'Link' light comes on - all good, but no IP address via DHCP. H... OK - configure LB2's IP manually for now and try and ping LB1. 'Act' light on back of LB2 flashes with transmitted ping packets, but nothing gets to LB1. LB2 can't even ping the IP address that DHCP server says SB2 in lounge has. I know there's nothing wrong with crossover cable - connected a laptop to LB2 with it and was able to ping between the two. I know there's nothing wrong with LB2's network config - connected a huge cat5 cable between it and DI-524 and everything works fine. >From all this I can only deduce that the SB2 in Lounge isn't doing what it's mean to do. It's meant to pass packets from the wireless LAN (essentially the DI-524) to LB2, and visa-versa, right? Having the same effect as that huge cat5 cable (which I clearly don't want to have trailing through the house). Any ideas? Thanks, Robin -- raintonr raintonr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1023 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=30375 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless bridge mode - does the router "see" the MAC behind it?
I'm experimenting with Linux. I say "experimenting" because I can barely get anything to work so I'm probably going to move on to something else. Anyway I've got it set up behind my SB3 in wireless bridge mode. It works just fine for Internet access - I downloaded the 160 Ubuntu updates twice without issue, and web browser access is snappy. However internal LAN access is slow as molasses. I can't reliably get samba file sharing working, and the web pages for internal servers, SlimServer and my router, load one or two images after a minute or so, then just sit there doing nothing. I've added the Linux PC's IP address to SlimServer's allowed addresses and started and stopped SlimServer to no avail. But I'm wondering - how does the router see the device attached to the SB-acting-as-wireless-bridge? Does it see its MAC address or that of the SB3? Should I add the Linux PC's MAC address to the list of allowed MAC addresses? (That would involve trying to find a MAC address under Linux which would take me all night at the rate I'm going, but still.) I've set my router to limit wireless clients - should I add one more or does all the traffic "seem" to originate from the SB3? Thanks. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless Bridge DHCP Problems Solved?
Apologies if this has been answered or addressed elsewhere but after 10mins searching through forums I'd thought I'd post as a new thread. I've just successfully rigged up a 3rd party video streaming device (Slingbox) using the Squeezebox V3 wireless bridge option. As others have found, my DHCP server would not assign an IP to the bridged device... until... I connected another device to the router, the new device appeared in the Router control panel immediately along with the Slingbox. I'm not technical enough to understand the inner magic of networking but could this point to some sort of an issue with the Squeezebox not correctly registering the bridged device with the DHCP server? I'm very happy with my Squeezebox, it has "freed my music" so this will hopefully be considered a constructive post! As an aside, if anyone from Slim Devices is reading this then I would recommend taking a look at a SlingBox especially some of the configuration wizards relating to external music access and their introductory guides to networking - very helpful! -- deepfatfriar deepfatfriar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5474 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24537 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless Bridge Function
Just wanted to say that I love this function - it has made my life so much easier! ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Wireless bridge / Firmware crash
I've been trying to track this down for a while - but still haven't a 100% reproduceable case. I use my SB2 as a wireless bridge - connecting the SlimServer PC via 100M ethernet. This work fine - and will play music forever without problems. However if I do something very intensive dragging data off the SlimServer PC which uses SB2 as it's wireless bridge - I get an interesting firmware crash. First I stop getting network access vis the bridge, and at the same time the SB2 display freezes. Music keeps playing though - although with some 'crackles' (I use the digital out). Once the track is finished the SB2 then completely freezes. A power off will reset it - and as long as I don't talk to the PC via the bridge I don't see any problems. In normal non-intensive use I see occasional similar crashes - but they happen much more often if I'm backing up files or viewing photos that put a lot of traffic through the bridge. Anyone seen anything similar? I'm using a linksys WAG54Gv2 with recent firmware, and a mix of B & G on the WLAN. In the crash the laptop is running B and the SB2 G - although I still see the problem when I run everything in B. I'm running 6.2.1 & firmware 28. -- GregD GregD's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=248 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=21264 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] wireless bridge
Love this box, but I'm trying to setup my SB as a wireless bridge. I followed the instructions, but the SB never gives me the option to turn bridge on/off -- swertens swertens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20445 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wireless Bridge/Gaming Adaptor
But the _simplest_ solution would be to buy a Squeezebox2. It's more money, but then again, you'd have a SLIMP3 to put in another room (or sell on eBay) AND get a free wireless bridge out of the deal. -dean ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss