Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
Its make AudioSource AMP 100 in EUR ver. (220V supply) ? -- lynchCZ Server SqueezeCenter 7.3.1 - 24372 (Synology Package) running on Synology NAS DS209+ (firmware DSM 2.0-0803) Player S.B. Duet (firmware 7.2 r3191) lynchCZ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22876 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
sleepysurf wrote: I use a small amp, the Russound R235LS, to drive 8 in-ceiling speakers from my SB2. You can find it for under $190 online. It has an adjustable sensitivity auto-on feature, which works great. I mounted mine on the BACK of my master bedroom dresser, so it's completely invisible. That looks like a great little amp. It even allows you to take over the speakers of another device if I understand correctly. Do you use that feature too? Does the auto on/off switch work well at low sound levels? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
I forgot about the dual auto-switching inputs! It's another nice feature, but I don't use it. The auto on/off works great. It has a manual control, so you can adjust the sensitivity for the Squeezebox signal. -- sleepysurf main system: sb2 (with elpac linear psu) benchmark dac-1 modwright swl 9.0se belles 350a reference ml summits. audience au24e and blue jeans cables. secondary systems: sb3 in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speaker) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers), with boom in home office. sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
I use a small amp, the Russound R235LS, to drive 8 in-ceiling speakers from my SB2. You can find it for under $190 online. It has an adjustable sensitivity auto-on feature, which works great. I mounted mine on the BACK of my master bedroom dresser, so it's completely invisible. -- sleepysurf main system: sb2 (with elpac linear psu) benchmark dac-1 modwright swl 9.0se belles 350a reference ml summits. audience au24e and blue jeans cables. secondary systems: sb3 in master br (russound r235ls amp driving in-ceiling speaker) and game room (powered swan s200a speakers), with boom in home office. sleepysurf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
aubuti wrote: peter;413467 Wrote: conorm1 wrote: http://www.connectedacoustic.com/product.php?xProd=2xSec=2 Cool, what is this? Did someone put a SBR and an AMP in one box or is this a whole new squeeze client device? The former. There was a little discussion of it last November in this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54571 Cool device. If I didn't already have more SB's than rooms I'd get one. I think it's a big mistake that SD doesn't offer a similar package. Have an amp built in solves a lot of problems. Less wiring, no hassle trying to get the amp top switch on/off with the SB. Integrated volume control... I know there are solutions for all these problems. I tried most of them. I have powered studio monitors switched with the ampswitch plugin in the living room. I have T-amp's in the office and bedrooms permanently on. But this is a much cleaner solution. Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
conorm1 wrote: http://www.connectedacoustic.com/product.php?xProd=2xSec=2 Cool, what is this? Did someone put a SBR and an AMP in one box or is this a whole new squeeze client device? Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
peter;413467 Wrote: conorm1 wrote: http://www.connectedacoustic.com/product.php?xProd=2xSec=2 Cool, what is this? Did someone put a SBR and an AMP in one box or is this a whole new squeeze client device? The former. There was a little discussion of it last November in this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54571 -- aubuti Nothing high-end, but music anywhere I want it. MSI Wind desktop (Ubuntu 8.10) feeding: Basement: SB2 JVC JA-S44 ESS Tempest LS8; Kitchen/Dining: Duet AudioSource Amp100 2 pairs Polk RC60i; Living room: SB3 Technics SA-EX140 Bose Acoustimass 3; Bedroom: Boom + SBC; Study: Duet Klipsch ProMedia 2.0; Kid's bedroom: SB2 Klipsch ProMedia 2.0 http://www.last.fm/user/aubuti/ aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
Looks to be UK based company. No distribution for USA. -- jwagner010 jwagner010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29405 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
You are correct in understanding that you need either powered speakers or an amp between a SBR and passive speakers. If you search these forums you will see posts about very efficient digital amplifiers that are as small, or smaller, than a SBR. These would work well for your application and wouldn't have to be managed as you would set the volume of the amp when you install it, then control music volume with the SBC. There are a few forum posts that ask Slimdevices/Logitech to consider making a device that has an integrated amp that you can directly attach passive speakers to but there is no feedback to determine if this is being considered. Sonos and Cisco/Linksys offer devices that do this so market place realities may drive them to a decision. I know that I would be very interest in a SB3 (Classic) with an integrated, highly efficient, amp. -- Kiwi Kiwi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2169 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
For my in-ceiling speakers I use a simple AudioSource AMP 100. It costs less than US$100 (check Amazon), is powerful enough to drive most in-ceiling speakers, and is good (but not audiophile) quality. It doesn't require any management. I just plug the SBR into the Input 2 inputs, turn it on, and set the volume to about the 1 o'clock position (you'll want to adjust depending on your speakers and desired volume level). The inputs are auto-sensing, so after 5-10 minutes with no signal from the SBR the amp goes into standby mode. In standby mode it still draws around 5w of power, and if that's more than you want to burn you can simply turn the amp off when you're done, and back on when you want to listen again. Alternatively you could get active (ie, powered) in-ceiling speakers instead of amplifier+passive speakers. One possible complication with that approach is ensuring that the line-level cable from the SBR to the speakers is as short as possible and routed in a way that it doesn't pick up a low frequency hum from nearby electrical wires. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
Thanks for the quick replys. I agree building an Amp into the receiver would make this a no brainer in my purchasing decision. I will check out the AudioSource AMP 100 in the interim. If others have other cheap Amps with auto detection of signal let me know. -- jwagner010 jwagner010's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=29405 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
Don't limit yourself to auto-sensing amps, especially because many of the T-class amps, such as the Sonic Impact T amp, are very efficient and draw very little power even when they are on (less than the AudioSource does in standby mode). A few months ago someone posted a link to a site where some company was selling a SBR that they had modified to include an amp. I can't find the thread now, but you might want to search for it. Personally I prefer separate components. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers to Connect to Squeezebox Receiver
http://www.connectedacoustic.com/product.php?xProd=2xSec=2 -- conorm1 conorm1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6339 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=62190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers
Here is a link to a prior thread in this forum: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34944 Another very lengthy thread over at the AVS forum is on the Monoprice ceiling speakers: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=991046 Good luck! -- bobharp Bob Harper bobharp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=600 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers
Home Theater Direct makes their own speakers to pretty good reviews. I have a pair of HD-R65s in my kitchen and a pair of HD-R80s in my living room. I'm quite happy with them. http://www.htd.com/in-wall-ceiling-speakers/high-definition cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas Logitech Developer: Squeezeplay/SqueezeOS/SqueezeboxController/SqueezeCenter Community Developer: Nokia770Skin http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/ 'KHAAAN!' (http://khaaan.com/)...'BUNNIES!' (http://home.pacbell.net/bettychu/2003allbreedbisris/BIS.html) bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers
parfour;397246 Wrote: Hi - i am sold on this network music thang and having recently moved house have the ability to bury cables etc. so i was thinking of ceiling speakers in dining room connected to sb receiver/classicdoes anyone have any recommendations of the sorts of speakers i should be considering. Hello and Welcome to the Forum. It would really help to know your price range or budget? It also helps to know what they will be used for as well as what your expectations are? How many watts from the Receiver? They could be something as simple as a pair of AUDIOSOURCE ATC6DM, Proficient C605 In-Ceiling, or Proficient W660 In-Wall speakers and then there is going all the way up into speakers like the Thiel HigherPlane 1.2s. If it's low available power and only for background listening then I say go simple and cheap. Because background music is just that, something in the background. Where as listening to enjoy music and critical listening tends to require more expensive gear. After seeing my Vandersteen VSM-1s on the wall in my Media Room and the white VSM-1s on the walls in my living room, my neighbor bought a pair off of Audiogon in white and mounted them on the wall in the living room facing into the dining room for good sound in both rooms. Most people don't notice them on the wall unless they are right on top of them. As I said, there are tons of options and tons of speakers to chose from. So it really gets down to budget and what you expect from them. -- iPhone *iPhone* 'Last.FM' (http://www.last.fm/user/mephone) Media Room: Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's, Vandersteen Quatro, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1 Living Room: Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1 Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom Home Office: SB3, NAD C370, two VSM-1 Home Gym: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, Thiel PowerPoint 1.2 Mobile: SB3, Audioengine A5 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers
Oh and while you're getting wiring done...have Cat-5e network outlets in each room! Wireless issues are by far the biggest problem with these sorts of devices - and it's not these devices in particular, it's wireless in general. When it works, you don't think about it. But there are SO MANY ways for it to go wrong, and when it does, you are sometimes left with few options. Wire the network drops NOW, while it's cheap. -- Mark Lanctot Current: SB2, Transporter, Boom (PQP3 - late beta), SBC (early beta) Stored: Boom (PQP1 - early beta) Sold: SB3, Duet Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers
parfour;397246 Wrote: Hi - i am sold on this network music thang and having recently moved house have the ability to bury cables etc. so i was thinking of ceiling speakers in dining room connected to sb receiver/classicdoes anyone have any recommendations of the sorts of speakers i should be considering. The key question is what is your budget? There's quite a price range even for in-ceiling speakers. I have 2 pairs of Polk Audio RC60i in my kitchen/dining area, and they are okay for the low end of the price range (about US$100/pair from Amazon). After I bought them someone advised me that I'd be better off with 8 drivers, and he was probably right because my Polks are pretty weak on the bass frequencies. But with all the wood and glass cabinets, hard floors/counters/table, and cooking noises it's hardly an audiophile environment to begin with -- aubuti Nothing high-end, but music anywhere I want it. MSI Wind desktop (Ubuntu 8.10) feeding: Basement: SB2 JVC JA-S44 ESS Tempest LS8; Kitchen/Dining: Duet AudioSource Amp100 2 pairs Polk RC60i; Living room: SB3 Technics SA-EX140 Bose Acoustimass 3; Bedroom: Boom + SBC; Study: Duet Klipsch ProMedia 2.0; Kid's bedroom: SB2 Klipsch ProMedia 2.0 http://www.last.fm/user/aubuti/ aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ceiling Speakers
I purchased 3 pairs of Niles CM800HD about 8 years ago and they have served me very well. They are located in the kitchen, living room and outdoor rear deck (installed under a wall popout). They are sourced from the SB3 analog to my Parasound C2 zone 2 and are powered by an old Adcom GFA 2535 amp. I think I paid about $300 a pair. Looks like that model has been discontinued and been replaced by the CM830 for about the same price. Great to run those wires when everything is open, good luck. JDB -- jdbaker SB3/Parasound C2/A51/PSB CHS60's/CHS40/Triad Gold Dipole Inwall Surrounds/Triad Inwall Silver Sub. SB3/Conrad Johnson D/A 2-B Tubed DAC/Yamaha-CR2020/Monitor Audio Silver S6 jdbaker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8531 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60212 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
