Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
anglecard48 wrote: > Yes, two years is probably about right. Hey, it gives a retired guy like > me something to get tripped up on, which is good. > > I'm very honked off at my SB Duet right now and don't even want to look > at it. I do look forward to the piCorePlayer on a Pi. But I'm thinking > maybe I may want to use a remote other than the SB Duet Controller. > > So I looked at some posts and came across the likes of this: "you can > add a small IR receiver to the GPIOs on the Pi you might need an extra > resistor" > > Yikes. Maybe I should keep the SB Controller.Assuming you have a smart phone > use Material skin. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
anglecard48 wrote: > "you can add a small IR receiver to the GPIOs on the Pi you might need > an extra resistor" Yes, but you would need to attach a screen, and install Jivelite, thus . . . 35078 +---+ |Filename: picase.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=35078| +---+ *Server - LMS 8.2.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP v7.0.1 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/pCP 7.0.1/Topping E30 DAC/Ruark MR1 Mk2 *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 6.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3B/pCP/Bluetooth/Echo Show 8 *Garage* - DAC32 > Edifier speakers *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
d6jg wrote: > My advice on this is to try to keep as mainstream as possible. If you do > do then youll find that every issue you come across will almost always > have surfaced somewhere else and been fixed. > 2 years ago mainstream would have been something else but today it is > definitely piCorePlayer on a Pi. You wont regret your decision. Yes, two years is probably about right. Hey, it gives a retired guy like me something to get tripped up on, which is good. I'm very honked off at my SB Duet right now and don't even want to look at it. I do look forward to the piCorePlayer on a Pi. But I'm thinking maybe I may want to use a remote other than the SB Duet Controller. So I looked at some posts and came across the likes of this: "you can add a small IR receiver to the GPIOs on the Pi you might need an extra resistor" Yikes. Maybe I should keep the SB Controller. anglecard48's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71714 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
d6jg wrote: > My advice on this is to try to keep as mainstream as possible. If you do > do then youll find that every issue you come across will almost always > have surfaced somewhere else and been fixed. > 2 years ago mainstream would have been something else but today it is > definitely piCorePlayer on a Pi. You wont regret your decision. could not agree more! *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
My advice on this is to try to keep as mainstream as possible. If you do do then youll find that every issue you come across will almost always have surfaced somewhere else and been fixed. 2 years ago mainstream would have been something else but today it is definitely piCorePlayer on a Pi. You wont regret your decision. VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
Thanks to all of you again. I went back and reread all of the comments and I think I am beginning to get this. The Raspberry pi and the Dell Wyse are great suggestions. As I mentioned, I'll go the Raspberry pi / piCorePlayer and I won't worry about connection to mysb. I'll keep the Duet Controller. I have been rather old school with my audio set up -- my amplifier is early 1970's -- so I do have some work to do to get hip to the new technologies. Some of the lingo baffles me, eg: "client", "hat", "run ffs" etc. So as I get into my Raspberry pi / piCorePlayer launch you may see me back here again seeking your help. As Billy Strayhorn said "ever onward and upward." Thanks again. anglecard48's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71714 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
Greg Erskine wrote: > > > I found a Duet not as good as a RPi with a DAC hat, but I haven't tested > a Duet with an external DAC, it may be as good or even better?? my defense of the duet receiver was strictly for non critical listening (extra room, etc). I do still like the controller despite phone/pad control apps. I prefer to use pcP as strictly LMS is for location considerations only My pCP server is sitting next to my router with players (touch, squeezeamp, radios, and yes receivers) located throughout the house. If you can set things up with your pCP (I prefer ethernet) adjacent to your kit, by all means, add a hat or go to a USB DAC and put the receiver in a box. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
As you already have a Topping D30. Get LMS going on your "replacement device", using whatever OS you prefer. Get comfortable with it. Your system should function as does today. After a while, as a no cost option, plug the Topping D30 into the "replacement device". See if there is a change in sound quality. I found a Duet not as good as a RPi with a DAC hat, but I haven't tested a Duet with an external DAC, it may be as good or even better?? Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
anglecard48 wrote: > Thanks all of you. I have ordered a Raspberry Pi and will dive into the > install and enjoyment next week I hope. > > I'd like and really appreciate your comments. > > Could I impose once more? I just want to summarize and have you check to > see if I understand all this correctly. > > - I have an SB Duet in my living room (main listening room). > - I do not have a PC to dedicate 24/7 in my main listening room (hifi > system) to run LMS and need to remedy that situation. > - I really only listen to streaming audio via Pandora and Internet radio > stations (maybe a one-day-in-the-future task will be to digitize my LPs > and stream them off a hard drive) > -The Raspberry pi is the ideal hardware device (small, cool, quiet, > capable, ships today, and inexpensive) that can work to operate my LMS > with my Duet > But... > -piCore Player is a higher-level application than the native Squeezebox > app that Duet uses, so I'll use piCore Player instead and will use my > Duet only as a remote. > > I believe I can use my laptop's monitor and keyboard to set up my > Raspberry pi via plugging into my router and looking up Raspberry pi IP > address on the router. So I won't need a Raspberry keyboard and monitor. > > - There is a Raspberry pi OS and OS lite that is available from > raspberrypi.org. It seems that one uses a micro sd card to get a > download app from pc to Raspberry pi. > - Once Raspberry pi is plugged in and operational, I will download LMS > from Logitech Squeezebox and install it on the Raspberry pi. > NOTE: one respondent instructed that: "If you want your server PC to > also be a player, you install the "Local Player" plugin." I don't > exactly know what that means. > - Once the server is running, I'll download, install, and configure my > piCorePlayer to "use this instance of LMS as its server" (I don't > exactly know what that last part in quotes means). > - piCore Player will appear on my LMS as a Squeezelite player called > piCorePlayer > > Question 1: will I need my Squeezebox receiver? > Question 2: Currently I am not able to connect my SB Duet Receiver or > Controller to mysb. I have a post on the Duet stream. Will that cause > problems when I attempt tp go the piCore Player route? > Question 3: Currently I use a Topping DAC. Would I line into that DAC > from my Raspberry pi? Or does Raspberry pi line in to the SB receiver > and then line into the Topping DAC? > > My system consists of: > Turntable -- ProJect > CD Player -- Rotel > Streamer -- SB Duet (LMS on MacBook Air when available) > DAC -- Topping D30 > Preamp -- Reference Line Preeminence One > Amp -- SAE Mark 31B > Speakers -- WOW1s > > Many, many thanks. PiCorePlayer is an operating system specifically designed to be an LMS sever and a player, you don't need any other operating system for the Pi. I use Pi USB > Topping E30 DAC > active speakers. You don't need your receiver part of the Duet, you can use your controller part of the Duet to control piCorePlayer (all one word). Connecting your piCorePlayer to mysqueezebox.com is iffy, I don't think you would need mySB.com for anything other than Tidal. Yes' you would set up the Raspberry Pi using a web browser on any machine connected to your network, you don't need to connect a screen, mouse, keyboard to your Pi. *Server - LMS 8.2.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP v7.0.1 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/pCP 7.0.1/Topping E30 DAC/Ruark MR1 Mk2 *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 6.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3B/pCP/Bluetooth/Echo Show 8 *Garage* - DAC32 > Edifier speakers *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
Greg Erskine wrote: > If you go the Raspberry Pi route, I'd use a DAC hat or a USB DAC on the > RPi and get rid of the SB Duet. > > The SB controller still makes a very good remote control for the RPi. Thanks all of you. I have ordered a Raspberry Pi and will dive into the install and enjoyment next week I hope. I'd like and really appreciate your comments. Could I impose once more? I just want to summarize and have you check to see if I understand all this correctly. - I have an SB Duet in my living room (main listening room). - I do not have a PC to dedicate 24/7 in my main listening room (hifi system) to run LMS and need to remedy that situation. - I really only listen to streaming audio via Pandora and Internet radio stations (maybe a one-day-in-the-future task will be to digitize my LPs and stream them off a hard drive) -The Raspberry pi is the ideal hardware device (small, cool, quiet, capable, ships today, and inexpensive) that can work to operate my LMS with my Duet But... -piCore Player is a higher-level application than the native Squeezebox app that Duet uses, so I'll use piCore Player instead and will use my Duet only as a remote. I believe I can use my laptop's monitor and keyboard to set up my Raspberry pi via plugging into my router and looking up Raspberry pi IP address on the router. So I won't need a Raspberry keyboard and monitor. - There is a Raspberry pi OS and OS lite that is available from raspberrypi.org. It seems that one uses a micro sd card to get a download app from pc to Raspberry pi. - Once Raspberry pi is plugged in and operational, I will download LMS from Logitech Squeezebox and install it on the Raspberry pi. NOTE: one respondent instructed that: "If you want your server PC to also be a player, you install the "Local Player" plugin." I don't exactly know what that means. - Once the server is running, I'll download, install, and configure my piCorePlayer to "use this instance of LMS as its server" (I don't exactly know what that last part in quotes means). - piCore Player will appear on my LMS as a Squeezelite player called piCorePlayer Question 1: will I need my Squeezebox receiver? Question 2: Currently I am not able to connect my SB Duet Receiver or Controller to mysb. I have a post on the Duet stream. Will that cause problems when I attempt tp go the piCore Player route? Question 3: Currently I use a Topping DAC. Would I line into that DAC from my Raspberry pi? Or does Raspberry pi line in to the SB receiver and then line into the Topping DAC? My system consists of: Turntable -- ProJect CD Player -- Rotel Streamer -- SB Duet (LMS on MacBook Air when available) DAC -- Topping D30 Preamp -- Reference Line Preeminence One Amp -- SAE Mark 31B Speakers -- WOW1s Many, many thanks. anglecard48's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71714 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
garym wrote: > No longer have any DUETs,** but still use a couple of DUET controllers. > My wife particularly likes the CONTROLLER. > > ** The only Squeezebox player I really didn't like that much and got rid > of. I still have and use (except for an SB3 in the closet) all my other > players, and have several backups of Touch, Radio, and Transporter. I also like the controllers as a good "now playing" and "pickup to control" for secondary rooms (workshop, garage etc.) I am still using my receivers in these secondary noncritical listening rooms, but only via ethernet, my days of tackling receiver wifi issues are over. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
A Dell/Wyse thin client is a good option too IMO. Great deal right now on a new Wyse 3040 with wifi on Ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/124785340328?hash=item1d0dc92fa8:g:VwoAAOSw931g1LUv That would rule out picoreplayer but it's x86_64, pick your distro of choice, my vote would be for Alpine Linux! sodface's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=19057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
Greg Erskine wrote: > If you go the Raspberry Pi route, I'd use a DAC hat or a USB DAC on the > RPi and get rid of the SB Duet. > > The SB controller still makes a very good remote control for the RPi. No longer have any DUETs,** but still use a couple of DUET controllers. My wife particularly likes the CONTROLLER. ** The only Squeezebox player I really didn't like that much and got rid of. I still have and use (except for an SB3 in the closet) all my other players, and have several backups of Touch, Radio, and Transporter. *Home:* Pi4B-8GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* rPi4B-4GB/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>foobar2000 *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP7.x/4TB>LMS 8.1.x>hifiberry Dac+Pro (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir3 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, Material Skin, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* -Ripping-: dBpoweramp > FLAC; -Post-rip-: mp3tag, PerfectTunes, TuneFusion; -Streaming:- Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
anglecard48 wrote: > Nice. It looks like this Rasberry Pi with pCP would work with my SB > Duet. Perfect. I think. > > Do I need to use Jivelite? I'd like to keep it simple. > > Thanks If you go the Raspberry Pi route, I'd use a DAC hat or a USB DAC on the RPi and get rid of the SB Duet. The SB controller still makes a very good remote control for the RPi. Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
I, like many here, use a rpi running picoreplayer as a LMS server only. That is, squeezelite disabled. I have identical two systems, each on a rpi 3b+ with a USB HDD, and use Samba and freefilesync to manage a mirror of my music library (on my PC) on the rpi HDD. So, when I add a new "album" to my library I just run ffs, and rescan LMS. Like Paul mentioned, about $60USD, then add $50USD for a HDD or more if SS HDD Jim PS - A little off topic, but I also use the rpi/HDD as a backup for me PC files, also using ffs. That is, my photos, documents, etc. So, for your $ you also get another backup for your important files. Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
anglecard48 wrote: > Nice. It looks like this Rasberry Pi with pCP would work with my SB > Duet. Perfect. I think. > > Do I need to use Jivelite? I'd like to keep it simple. > > Thanks You would only use/need Jivelite if you were adding a screen to the Pi. *Server - LMS 8.2.0 *Pi4B 4GB/Argon one case/pCP v7.0.1 - 75K library, playlists & LMS cache on SSD (ntfs) *Study -* Pi4/pCP 7.0.1/Topping E30 DAC/Ruark MR1 Mk2 *Lounge* - Pi2/pCP 6.0.0 > HiFiBerry DIGI+ > AudioEngine DAC1 > AVI DM5 *Dining Room* - Pi3B/pCP/Bluetooth/Echo Show 8 *Garage* - DAC32 > Edifier speakers *Spares* - 2xTouch, 1xSB Radio. 1xSB3, 6xRPi kidstypike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
d6jg wrote: > https://www.picoreplayer.org/ Nice. It looks like this Rasberry Pi with pCP would work with my SB Duet. Perfect. I think. Do I need to use Jivelite? I'd like to keep it simple. Thanks anglecard48's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71714 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
anglecard48 wrote: > I like the idea, price, immediate availability, and footprint of the > Raspberry Pi 4 option. > > What is the optimum operating system for this option? Would a Raspberry > Pi setup have its own OS. Or does one use something like Windows or > Linnux? > > I once set up an old 386 PC by installing a Linnux (Ubuntu lite) OS. It > wasn't the funnest time I ever had but I got it to work and can do it > again. The PC was just too hot and noisy for my system so I took it > down. > > Thanks https://www.picoreplayer.org/ VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Boom *Kitchen* UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio) *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes Everything controlled by iPeng & Material on iOS d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
Paul Webster wrote: > A Raspberry Pi 4 with 2GB memory, plus micro SD card, power supply and > probably a case - total price around 60USD + taxes > Although you might need to pay a bit more to get 4GB because finding new > 2GB models is hard. > > An alternative is the soon to ship Core32 from Polyvection - at around > 175USD plus shipping > https://polyvection.com/en/product/core32/ > > > There are other ways to do it of course. I like the idea, price, immediate availability, and footprint of the Raspberry Pi 4 option. What is the optimum operating system for this option? Would a Raspberry Pi setup have its own OS. Or does one use something like Windows or Linnux? I once set up an old 386 PC by installing a Linnux (Ubuntu lite) OS. It wasn't the funnest time I ever had but I got it to work and can do it again. The PC was just too hot and noisy for my system so I took it down. Thanks anglecard48's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=71714 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
Possibly overkill if you just have one player, but maybe an excuse to get more, a Dac32 maybe? :-) https://polyvection.com/en/product/core32/ Take care of your tongue. It is in a wet place and can easily slip. ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Machine to use for LMS and Duet
A Raspberry Pi 4 with 2GB memory, plus micro SD card, power supply and probably a case - total price around 60USD + taxes Although you might need to pay a bit more to get 4GB because finding new 2GB models is hard. An alternative is the soon to ship Core32 from Polyvection - at around 175USD plus shipping https://polyvection.com/en/product/core32/ There are other ways to do it of course. Paul Webster http://dabdig.blogspot.com author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, supla finland, abc australia, cbc/radio-canada and rte ireland Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=114758 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
