Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-15 Thread scoob101

aubuti;554933 Wrote: 
> I hear you, although since several free alternatives have been mentioned
> already it sounds like simplicity is at least equally important to you.
> That's a hard call because one person's simplicity is another person's
> complexity.
> 

You`re bang on - simplicity is v important - primarily for WAF.

Also thanks to andynormancx for pointing out that WMA losless actually
gets transcoded to FLAC - that kind of wipes out my main reason for
going to FLAC.

I don`t have any pressing need to seek though my WMA lossless files, so
I`m thinking right now that theres no pressing reason to switch.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-15 Thread ian_heys

I've ripped six or seven this afternoon (amongst other things) and had
no problems at all.

I've taken the plunge and bought the registration key.

Thanks again.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-15 Thread gharris999

ian_heys;554922 Wrote: 
> I've been lurking here just keeping up with things:
> 
> Thanks to Gordon for recommending EZ-CDDA
> 
> I've been having some problems with rubyripper since Ubuntu 10.04 and
> also had problems with my SATA DVD-ROM drive in my dual boot
> WindowsXP/EAC but EZ-CDDA has great tagging options (I particularly
> like Album mode) and is extremely fast - 1 minute 40 secs for a 10
> track CD.
> 
> It's not free but seems worth the price.
> 
> Thanks again
I should warn that I did have problems with EZ-CDDA and later Plextor
SATA DVD drives.  Those were drives that Plextor didn't manufacture
themselves, but rather just re-badged.  Anyway, I never could get good
rips without lots of errors with that combination.  But I do think it
was the drives' fault, not EZ-CDDA's.  Since moving to Optarc drives
(<$30 for OEM units!) I've been very happy.  With new CDs, I get
perfect rips that are identical to those produced by EAC, but in 1/10th
the time.   And EZ-CDDA continues to work very well with my trusty old
PATA Plextor PX-760A.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-15 Thread aubuti

scoob101;554906 Wrote: 
> If I could get a ripper/burner for FLAC which was free or at least
> cheap, then I may have a reason to change.
> 
> Right now, WMP12 works, and is free. For the moment at least, i can
> live with pushing more data over my wifi than I have to.
> 
> Perhaps other products will come along which will change my mind.
I hear you, although since several free alternatives have been
mentioned already it sounds like simplicity is at least equally
important to you. That's a hard call because one person's simplicity is
another person's complexity.

I don't think anyone has mentioned winamp yet. It's free, and a lot of
people like it, though I don't. There's also Songbird, which supports
FLAC, but I'm not sure if it burns CDs.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-15 Thread ian_heys

I've been lurking here just keeping up with things:

Thanks to Gordon for recommending EZ-CDDA

I've been having some problems with rubyripper since Ubuntu 10.04 and
also had problems with my SATA DVD-ROM drive in my dual boot
WindowsXP/EAC but EZ-CDDA has great tagging options (I particularly
like Album mode) and is extremely fast - 1 minute 40 secs for a 10
track CD.

It's not free but seems worth the price.

Thanks again


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-15 Thread andynormancx

scoob101;554906 Wrote: 
> 
> I was just interested in reducing the network overhead for my wireless
> SB radio`s, by going FLAC (I understand that WMA lossless is transcoded
> to WAV, meaning a bigger overhead for the wireless network)
> 
WMA lossless is transcoded to FLAC by default.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-15 Thread scoob101

aubuti;554904 Wrote: 
> I'd be wary of chaining myself to a proprietary codec like WMA (lossless
> or lossy), and I also hate the way WMP litters my hard drive with little
> files. But to each his/her own.

Yea, I know WMA is proprietry, but I`m of the opinion that if it aint
broke and all that...Been using WMA lossless for over 5 years, and it
hasn`t caused me one irritation. Just works. 

I was just interested in reducing the network overhead for my wireless
SB radio`s, by going FLAC (I understand that WMA lossless is transcoded
to WAV, meaning a bigger overhead for the wireless network)

If I could get a ripper/burner for FLAC which was free or at least
cheap, then I may have a reason to change.

Right now, WMP12 works, and is free. For the moment at least, i can
live with pushing more data over my wifi than I have to.

Perhaps other products will come along which will change my mind.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-15 Thread aubuti

scoob101;554899 Wrote: 
> Many thanks for the recommendation - Just taken a look at the prices and
> its a bit too steep for something thats really a nice to have - $54+$18
> for he family pack+17.5% tax=$84 AND 5$ a year after the 1st year for
> metadata. 
> 
> I think I`ll stick with WMA lossless and WMP 12 which is all free.
I think you misunderstood the pricing. The "+$18" is the incremental
cost of the Family Pack ($54) over and above the single license ($36).
So with tax it's $63.45 ($54+17.5%) plus the annual metadata fee after
the first year. Probably still too steep, but thought it would be good
at least to have the right numbers.

I'd be wary of chaining myself to a proprietary codec like WMA
(lossless or lossy), and I also hate the way WMP litters my hard drive
with little files. But to each his/her own.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-15 Thread scoob101

iPhone;554753 Wrote: 
> Can't vouch for the better half as I don't know her, but dBpowerAmp is
> my choice for Ripping, Converting, and Burning both Audio CDs from FLAC
> (same as original CD) or MP3 (cram more songs on a CD). I also concert
> FLAC to MP3 to put on my iPhone. It does all of these things well and
> does a good job of tagging also. Once setup properly by you, the better
> half should be able to just put in a CD, check that the feedback from
> the search is correct and click on rip. To burn, one uses the included
> CD Writer.
> YMMV but its been the best program for me. Used to use EAC, switched to
> dBpowerAmp and have never looked back.

Many thanks for the recommendation - Just taken a look at the prices
and its a bit too steep for something thats really a nice to have -
$54+$18 for he family pack+17.5% tax=$84 AND 5$ a year after the 1st
year for metadata. 


I think I`ll stick with WMA lossless and WMP 12 which is all free.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-15 Thread andynormancx

pski;554805 Wrote: 
> Car units that play FLAC?
The empeg for example plays FLACs with the final release of the
firmware they made back in 2004.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread aubuti

I don't know about units made specifically for cars, but there are a lot
of options with portable music players. You can use Rockbox
(www.rockbox.org) to make several portable players FLAC-capable,
including iPods, SanDisk, Archos, Cowon, etc. And there are some
portable players that come FLAC-capable straight out of the box (Cowon,
Sansa Fuze, etc.).

And then there are the hard core like iPhone who put a Squeezebox in
the car

EDIT: Also have a look here, where at least two car-specific units are
listed: http://flac.sourceforge.net/links.html#hardware


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread pski

Car units that play FLAC?

I learn something every day.

Who makes these things? (Everybody?-- boy would I be humbled..)

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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread gharris999

Assuming that you're talking about burning audio discs and not data
discs, check out the freeware Bun: http://www.burrrn.net/ 

Also, Foobar 2000 has a "burninate" extension which will allow you to
burn audio discs from flac sources.

I'm a big fan of Poikosoft's EZ-CDDA Extractor.  Great ripping and
conversion tool.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread andynormancx

Any in car player that doesn't have room for all your music is the wrong
idea anyway ;)

*looks lovingly at the 64GB empeg in the corner*


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread aubuti

You're right that it's easier to maintain one library than two, but with
one of the various available tools (eg, dBpoweramp baatch converter,
flac2mp3.pl, mp3fs, etc) it doesn't take much more effort. And for some
of us the convenience is well worth the modest incremental effort. 

Also, having FLAC for a CD player isn't that much more convenient than
playing the CDs themselves, since you'll only fit 2-3 FLAC albums on a
CD.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread spile

andynormancx;554755 Wrote: 
> Don't bother burning FLACs for the car. Use MP3s (or AAC if your player
> supports it), you'll never hear the difference between 192k MP3s and
> FLACs in car.
But surely it is easier to maintain one set of music files than two?
I wish the CD player in my car would play FLAC instead of just MP3.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread andynormancx

All I can say is you must have a very quiet car and very special ears
indeed.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread iPhone

andynormancx;554755 Wrote: 
> Don't bother burning FLACs for the car. Use MP3s (or AAC if your player
> supports it), you'll never hear the difference between 192k MP3s and
> FLACs in car.

I think it depends on the car and the persons ears. I burned a bunch of
192k songs to 12 disks so I could drive across the country only changing
disks once in the 6 CD changer. My better half asked me what was wrong
with the songs I was playing! Sure FLAC is one thing, but some times
depending on the vehicle and person's ears (and how often they listen
to the song), there is a need to burn at 256 or 320k. One gets more
songs on the disk then at Redbook levels and folks don't notice a
difference.

Now that we both have Squeezeboxes in our cars, MP3s are out. For
casual listening or background 192k might work, but for listening and
music enjoyment, it just doesn't cut it anymore for us. YMMV.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread JJZolx

andynormancx;554755 Wrote: 
> Don't bother burning FLACs for the car. Use MP3s (or AAC if your player
> supports it), you'll never hear the difference between 192k MP3s and
> FLACs in car.

I think you may be talking about playback from a portable player like
an iPod, Zune, or Sansa.  There I would agree.  You probably won't be
able to tell the difference between a good quality Mp3 in the car and
you'll increase storage space and battery life by using a compressed
format.

But if you're going to burn a redbook CD then there's absolutely no
reason not to use full-quality FLAC files.  I use 'Burrrn'
(http://www.burrrn.net/?page_id=4) to burn FLACs directly to CD. 
Extremely simple, especially if you have a CUE sheet for the album.

I'm not sure if there are any rippers that can also burn CDs directly
from FLAC files.  EAC can both rip and burn CDs, but it requires you to
decode the FLAC files to WAV first before it can burn.  I think the paid
version of dbpoweramp may have a CD burning component, but it's really a
separate program.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread andynormancx

Don't bother burning FLACs for the car. Use MP3s (or AAC if your player
supports it), you'll never hear the difference between 192k MP3s and
FLACs in car.


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Re: [slim] Program to Rip AND Burn to FLAC

2010-06-14 Thread iPhone

scoob101;554722 Wrote: 
> I have recently changed my players to be all squeezeboxes (2 radios and
> a duet) and I love them. Its made me think that I would like to convert
> the existing music collection from WMA lossless to FLAC, and then run
> everything in FLAC (i.e. ripping new CD`s and, just as importantly,
> burning FLAC files to CD for the car.
> 
> Can anyone suggest one program which can both rip CD`s to FLAC and Burn
> FLAC files to play in a CD player?
> 
> Simplicity is important as the wife will want to use it.

Can't vouch for the better half as I don't know her, but dBpowerAmp is
my choice for Ripping, Converting, and Burning both Audio CDs from FLAC
(same as original CD) or MP3 (cram more songs on a CD). I also concert
FLAC to MP3 to put on my iPhone. It does all of these things well and
does a good job of tagging also. Once setup properly by you, the better
half should be able to just put in a CD, check that the feedback from
the search is correct and click on rip. To burn, one uses the included
CD Writer.
YMMV but its been the best program for me. Used to use EAC, switched to
dBpowerAmp and have never looked back.


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