Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[Max2Play]

While Sonos would replace your existing Squeezebox infrastructure, the
Pi with Max2Play would in fact extend it. Our system show up the same as
the original Squeezeboxes in your Server interface and perfectly
complement and expands multiroom Squeezebox applications.



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[Blisteringblue]

I've looked at Sonos, Pi devices but until my Squeeze World stops
working there just is no point.   With the new Spotify work around for
us "oldies" without a touch it just keeps going and going ;)



Boom, Receiver, Squeezelite, Android Squeezer and Android Squeeze Player
playback
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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[daverich4]

I replaced my Touch with a Sonore microRendu. You can drive it with
Logitech Media Server, a DLNA based program such as JRiver, Roon or
Airplay. It's worked really well for me.



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[Max2Play]

Giza2020 wrote: 
> Look at www.max2play.com for guides on setting up the pi
ad6922 wrote: 
> I was going on the same path last year to look for alternatives for
> squeezebox as the LMS-software on my QNAP nas had security breaches.
> 
> In the end I went for a rpi2 with max2play.com. As it is a rather cheap
> alternative I wanted to give it a try.
> 
> By now, it's not a try anymore, but it's here to stay.
> 
> It's simple in daily use and I got the airplay option as an extra. As
> the spotify app have been changed in the last year as well there is no
> need to change
> to a different platform. It does everything that I want it to do.
RSJ wrote: 
> I switched to Raspberry Pi using Max2play and Hifiberry amps and have
> never looked back. They integrated into my existing Squeezeboxes
> flawlessly and I can sync everything, play anything on my NAS and stream
> Spotify to all of them. I'll be slowly phasing out the older
> Squeezeboxes because I can get so much more functionality out of the
> Raspberry Pi setup with things like Jivelite that allows control through
> touchscreens and HDTVs, being able to embed the player into a multitude
> of devices and locations and combining it with Sure amps makes the
> Raspberry Pi setup simply the best in my opinion.
> 
> Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
Thanks Giza2020, ad6922 and RSJ for mentioning us! It means a lot when
you see users taking the software we built and utilizing them so
greatly. We started our project with a special focus on the great
capabilities of the Squeezebox system and the goal bringing these
features to the Raspberry Pi for everyone to enjoy. Now it is fantastic
to see such great solutions like RSJ's system based on our software. The
integration of the Rii to control Jivelite is a great touch that we have
not seen yet, great idea!
If you have any thoughts or ideas on the software that would make your
experience with it better, we would love to hear from seasoned users
what is on the top of their lists.



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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[olivaar]

my simple and cheap setup:

Hardware Player:
raspberry pi 2 model b
hifiberry dac+phone jack version
standard raspberry case

Hardware Controller:
ODYS MIRA (7" Android tablet)

Software Controller:
Logitech Squeezebox-App from Google-Playstore (also available for ios)

Software Player:
piCorePlayer (https://sites.google.com/site/picoreplayer/home)
very small sd-card image, easy to setup
this includes also the logitech media server.



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[RSJ]

Rainer glad to inspire you. I love the Raspberry Pi, Max2play and
Hifiberry amp setup, it's compact size allows you to get real creative
with it, you simply can't customize your setup like this with off the
shelf products. Although I think the price point of the Hifiberry amp is
a little high, the dollar per watt is high compared to Sure amps, the
way it plugs into the Raspberry Pi is just super clean. One of my next
projects will be to mount this setup to a  ceiling speaker and power it
with one of these power supplies. Then I'll I need to do is run speaker
wire to the other  ceiling speaker for a super clean and easy setup
that's controlled from a smart phone, nice.

NeeKeons AC 110V-240V To DC 12V 6A(72W) Switching Power Supply Regulated
Power Transformer Adapter for Industrial Automation, LED Strips,CCTV ,
Radio, Computer(12V6A)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01HY4KDB0/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_SQZ7xb6GXC0DW

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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[Rainer M Krug]

RSJ  writes:

> Using a speaker kit from Parts Express I made these bookshelf speakers
> with a Raspberry Pi and Hifiberry amp inside. It's a very clean setup,
> connect the other speaker, data if you choose, power and you're good to
> go. Custom speakers playing whatever you want and controlling it all
> with a smartphone has coolness factor that you just can't get from
> something bought off the shelf.
>

Very nice - you are giving me some nice ideas. Thanks.

Rainer

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[Rainer M Krug]

RSJ  writes:

> rkrug wrote: 
>> RSJ  writes:
>> 
>> > I switched to Raspberry Pi using Max2play and Hifiberry amps and have
>> > never looked back. They integrated into my existing Squeezeboxes
>> > flawlessly and I can sync everything, play anything on my NAS and
>> stream
>> > Spotify to all of them. I'll be slowly phasing out the older
>> > Squeezeboxes because I can get so much more functionality out of the
>> > Raspberry Pi setup with things like Jivelite that allows control
>> through
>> > touchscreens and HDTVs,
>> 
>> What do you mean by HDTVs? Jivelite display only?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> > being able to embed the player into a multitude
>> > of devices and locations and combining it with Sure amps makes the
>> > Raspberry Pi setup simply the best in my opinion.
>> >
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>
> This is my HDTV, I have a Raspberry Pi plugged into my receiver and I
> use a mini USB keyboard to control it. I can control the music, start a
> slide show of my photos while listening to music or switch to Kodi and
> watch a movie. You just can't do this with the Logitech Squeezebox
> Receivers that I've been using.
>

I have to try this - looks intriguing.

Rainer

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[RSJ]

Using a speaker kit from Parts Express I made these bookshelf speakers
with a Raspberry Pi and Hifiberry amp inside. It's a very clean setup,
connect the other speaker, data if you choose, power and you're good to
go. Custom speakers playing whatever you want and controlling it all
with a smartphone has coolness factor that you just can't get from
something bought off the shelf.




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[RSJ]

RSJ wrote: 
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> 
> 
> This is my HDTV, I have a Raspberry Pi plugged into my receiver and I
> use a mini USB keyboard to control it. I can control the music, start a
> slide show of my photos while listening to music or switch to Kodi and
> watch a movie. You just can't do this with the Logitech Squeezebox
> Receivers that I've been using.
> 
> 
> 
> [image:
> http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160930/98394292a7e9869a5bac250bc8b763d2.jpg]
> 
> Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
This setup cost me about  $60 with the $20 keyboard. It's the cheapest
and simplest setup. All it requires is a Raspberry Pi, SD card, a case,
power supply and keyboard. Set up the Raspberry Pi, plug it into the
receiver using HDMI, plug in the power and your good to go. I can sync
this player to any other and control it all from my couch with the
keyboard and see it all on the big screen.

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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[RSJ]

rkrug wrote: 
> RSJ  writes:
> 
> > I switched to Raspberry Pi using Max2play and Hifiberry amps and have
> > never looked back. They integrated into my existing Squeezeboxes
> > flawlessly and I can sync everything, play anything on my NAS and
> stream
> > Spotify to all of them. I'll be slowly phasing out the older
> > Squeezeboxes because I can get so much more functionality out of the
> > Raspberry Pi setup with things like Jivelite that allows control
> through
> > touchscreens and HDTVs,
> 
> What do you mean by HDTVs? Jivelite display only?
> 
> 
> 
> > being able to embed the player into a multitude
> > of devices and locations and combining it with Sure amps makes the
> > Raspberry Pi setup simply the best in my opinion.
> >
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This is my HDTV, I have a Raspberry Pi plugged into my receiver and I
use a mini USB keyboard to control it. I can control the music, start a
slide show of my photos while listening to music or switch to Kodi and
watch a movie. You just can't do this with the Logitech Squeezebox
Receivers that I've been using.



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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[bobm]

wortgefecht wrote: 
> OK, it's completely without LMS, but here's one guy's experience with
> Chromecast Audios:
> http://www.androidcentral.com/using-google-chromecast-audio-whole-house-audio-alternative-sonos

nice Article,  this looks like a cool way to hook up your chromecast if
you want a neat solution equal to a Play1 from Sonos.  

https://www.amazon.com/Grace-Digital-CastDock-X2-Chromecast/dp/B01EXCTQBO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8=1475085019=8-1=chromecast+speaker



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[wortgefecht]

OK, it's completely without LMS, but here's one guy's experience with
Chromecast Audios:
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-google-chromecast-audio-whole-house-audio-alternative-sonos



New setup:

- ASRock Ion 330, Lubuntu 14.04, LMS 7.9, FLAC
- *Duet* > Pro-Ject DAC Box E > AKG Hearo 888 Titan (home office),
  *Boom + Canton ASF 75 SC* (master bedroom), *Boom* (master bathroom),
  *Radio* (guest bathroom), *RPi2 + OpenELEC + XSqueeze* > Samsung
  UE60H6270 > Denon AVR-770SD > Mission 2.1 speakers (living room)
- *Classic* > Parasound DAC 1500 > vintage Wega Modul 42V amp (42E
  equalizer, 42T tape deck + Thorens TD 160 Mk II turntable) > Quadral
  Vulkan Mk II (music room)

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[garym]

I posted this elsewhere, but relevant here too:

Google Store is selling Chromecast Audio for $25 ($10 off $35 price).  
Also at Best Buy. If you've been wanting to play with one, this might be
the time to pick one or two up.



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*Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9 > Squeezelite
*Spares:* Transporter, Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER
*Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng8 & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or
SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop
*Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes;
Streaming: Spotify

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[bobm]

garym wrote: 
> I bought a SONOS Connect last year just to play with. It is simple to
> setup and use. (To me) there are many annoying things after being used
> to Squeezeboxes and controllers such as iPeng (the SONOS controllers are
> fairly rudimentary, but get the job done of course).  But the main
> limitations for me are the inability to deal with the size of my music
> collection (> 65k), lack of certain nice apps related to playing BBC or
> BBC extras, podcasts subscriptions, etc.  Not being able to play hi-res
> is not a huge deal, but I do have a dozen or so hi-res albums that I'd
> have to convert to be able to play on SONOS.   All this said, certainly
> nothing wrong with SONOS. It's not anywhere close to the squeezebox
> ecosystem (for my use), but I can see why it is very popular.
I felt I overpaid for Sonos Connect. IT is easy to setup but does have
the limitation you mention above.  It seems Sonos is not catering to the
Audiophile folks.  People having been requesting on their forum about
hi-res and >65K tracks for many years but yet the Connect does not get
updated. For me it works fine so I am happy but I can see why heavy
users such as yourself need to look elsewhere.  I wonder if Bluesound
will become a good alternative at some point?



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I have all 3 bridges Phillipe and yes the AirPlay one is the best. 


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*Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 ->
Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7
*Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755
-> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
*Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
*Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones
*Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 ->
Wharfedale Modus Cubes

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d6jg wrote: 
> Phillipe's bridges are of course excellent and open up a whole range of
> players to the Eco system but unfortunately they all have compromises
> IMHO. hi-res, gapless playback, sync etc
> The only non Logitech player that fulfills all the criteria to date
> seems to be a Pi with DAC. It's the only thing that could realistically
> be considered Audiofool compatible.
> I understand why people choose Sonos but it doesn't work the way I want
> my music players to do.
> Why Logitech, why?

I agree although Sonos as upnp devices are providing a really good
solution (gapless, better res that AirPlay) except sync - I wish they
want to release their sync, but they believe, right or wrong, that's
this is their crown jewel. To me, at the risk of offending audiophiles,
AirPlay was the best compromise and I put a lot of work to make this
work. You have everything except hi-res. It's very transparent to LMS



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PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, JBL OnBeat, XBMC, Foobar2000, XBoxOne,
JRiver 21, Chromecast Audio, Chromecast v1, Pi B2, Pi B+, 2xPi A+,
Odroid-C1, Cubie2

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[d6jg]

Phillipe's bridges are of course excellent and open up a whole range of
players to the Eco system but unfortunately they all have compromises
IMHO. hi-res, gapless playback, sync etc
The only non Logitech player that fulfills all the criteria to date
seems to be a Pi with DAC. It's the only thing that could realistically
be considered Audiofool compatible.
I understand why people choose Sonos but it doesn't work the way I want
my music players to do.
Why Logitech, why?



*Vortexbox LMS 7.9 music on QNAP TS419p via NFS* iThingys/iPeng/Tablets
*Living Room* - SB3 -> Onkyo TS606 - > Celestion Ditton F20s - Zone 2 ->
Sony TA FE 320 -> Sennheiser RS 130 & B P7
*Office* - RPi -> Sony TA FE320 -> Celestion F10s / SB3 -> Onkyo CRN 755
-> Wharfedale Modus Cubes
*Dining Room* -> SB Boom *Kitchen* -> UE Radio (upgraded to SB Radio)
*Bedroom (Bedside)* - SB Touch -> Topping TP21 -> AKG Headphones
*Bedroom (TV)* - Amazon Fire TV (SB Player) -> Topping TP20 ->
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[garym]

bobm wrote: 
> I made the switch to Sonos and  I was pleased to see how easy it was to
> stream my local music.   I basically pointed Sonos at my NAS share and
> shut down the LMS.  Kind of sad but for our simple needs Sonos is
> working out great.

I bought a SONOS Connect last year just to play with. It is simple to
setup and use. (To me) there are many annoying things after being used
to Squeezeboxes and controllers such as iPeng (the SONOS controllers are
fairly rudimentary, but get the job done of course).  But the main
limitations for me are the inability to deal with the size of my music
collection (> 65k), lack of certain nice apps related to playing BBC or
BBC extras, podcasts subscriptions, etc.  Not being able to play hi-res
is not a huge deal, but I do have a dozen or so hi-res albums that I'd
have to convert to be able to play on SONOS.   All this said, certainly
nothing wrong with SONOS. It's not anywhere close to the squeezebox
ecosystem (for my use), but I can see why it is very popular.



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(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9 > Squeezelite
*Spares:* Transporter, Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER
*Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng8 & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or
SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop
*Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes;
Streaming: Spotify

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[bobm]

garym wrote: 
> Sonos server is essentially built into each unit. The files have to be
> served from somewhere locally, but that can be a NAS or some sort of
> drive attached to a router, etc.  I assume this is the main reason that
> Sonos is not willing to update their software in any significant way
> (key issue for me would be the 65,000 track maximum).  Doing so would
> effectively make all the old SONOS players unusable with newer units.
> 
> In today's world of micro computers the size of a pack of cigarettes
> that can run  things like LMS, the need to have a "PC running" has
> become less and less of an issue.
I made the switch to Sonos and  I was pleased to see how easy it was to
stream my local music.   I basically pointed Sonos at my NAS share and
shut down the LMS.  Kind of sad but for our simple needs Sonos is
working out great.



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[toby10]

Man in a van wrote: 
> 
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/knowhowtec/sonopi-touch-a-raspberry-pi-based-multiroom-audio?ref=category_popular
> 
> 
> 

Doesn't look very promising.  Only three actual items ordered (pledged)
and those are the least expensive of the offered items.  They have one
week to fulfill more than 97% of their target goal of $22k.



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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[Rainer M Krug]

RSJ  writes:

> I switched to Raspberry Pi using Max2play and Hifiberry amps and have
> never looked back. They integrated into my existing Squeezeboxes
> flawlessly and I can sync everything, play anything on my NAS and stream
> Spotify to all of them. I'll be slowly phasing out the older
> Squeezeboxes because I can get so much more functionality out of the
> Raspberry Pi setup with things like Jivelite that allows control through
> touchscreens and HDTVs,

What do you mean by HDTVs? Jivelite display only?



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> of devices and locations and combining it with Sure amps makes the
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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[RSJ]

I switched to Raspberry Pi using Max2play and Hifiberry amps and have
never looked back. They integrated into my existing Squeezeboxes
flawlessly and I can sync everything, play anything on my NAS and stream
Spotify to all of them. I'll be slowly phasing out the older
Squeezeboxes because I can get so much more functionality out of the
Raspberry Pi setup with things like Jivelite that allows control through
touchscreens and HDTVs, being able to embed the player into a multitude
of devices and locations and combining it with Sure amps makes the
Raspberry Pi setup simply the best in my opinion.

Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk



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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[castalla]

TheLastMan wrote: 
> With Sonos you can play music files from any networked device. I have a
> friend who has his music on a USB hard drive plugged into his router. It
> is also quite impressive that if you have the app installed on your
> phone it will play music from that as well. 
> 
> In general it is a lot easier to set up and run than Squeezebox, but you
> pay for the privilege,  and it is a lot less flexible. The Sonos
> controller app for the iPhone is very neat. 
> 
> However Sonos is simply too expensive to be a mass market product and
> will remain niche. Chromecast and similar products are the future. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my F5121 using Tapatalk

The bridge plugins option for LMS is the way to go - then you can
virtually use any Airplay, DLNA speakers as squeezebox players (as well
as using the speakers' own systems).  Chromecast bridge does the same
but you still need a powered speaker for the CCast.



Touch, Logitech Radio, Logitech UE Radio, O2 Joggler + SqpOS 
UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8
speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker;  - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE
Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp
Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio
AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker
SB Player - Fire TV


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[castalla]

Man in a van wrote: 
> Yet another option on the horizon, more box of cigars than fag packet
> though :)
> 
> https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/knowhowtec/sonopi-touch-a-raspberry-pi-based-multiroom-audio?ref=category_popular
> 
> 
> atb
> 
> Ronnie

Appealing design?  Not in my eyes  I'm afraid.



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UPnPBridge - 2 paired Sonos Play1 speakers; Rocki - Sony SRS-BTM8
speaker; Pioneer WX-SMA1 speaker;  - PURE One Flow internet radio: PURE
Jongo S3x ; Jongo T2; Libratone Zipp
Castbridge - Chromecast 1 + Chromecast Audio
AirplayBridge - Loewe Airspeaker
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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[Man in a van]

garym wrote: 
> 
> In today's world of micro computers the size of a pack of cigarettes
> that can run  things like LMS, the need to have a "PC running" has
> become less and less of an issue.


Yet another option on the horizon, more box of cigars than fag packet
though :)

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/knowhowtec/sonopi-touch-a-raspberry-pi-based-multiroom-audio?ref=category_popular


atb

Ronnie



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[TheLastMan]

garym wrote: 
> Sonos server is essentially built into each unit. The files have to be
> served from somewhere locally, but that can be a NAS or some sort of
> drive attached to a router, etc.  I assume this is the main reason that
> Sonos is not willing to update their software in any significant way
> (key issue for me would be the 65,000 track maximum).  Doing so would
> effectively make all the old SONOS players unusable with newer units.
> 
> In today's world of micro computers the size of a pack of cigarettes
> that can run  things like LMS, the need to have a "PC running" has
> become less and less of an issue.
With Sonos you can play music files from any networked device. I have a
friend who has his music on a USB hard drive plugged into his router. It
is also quite impressive that if you have the app installed on your
phone it will play music from that as well. 

In general it is a lot easier to set up and run than Squeezebox, but you
pay for the privilege,  and it is a lot less flexible. The Sonos
controller app for the iPhone is very neat. 

However Sonos is simply too expensive to be a mass market product and
will remain niche. Chromecast and similar products are the future. 


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SQUEEZEBOXES:[/B] TWO SB DUETS (LIVING ROOM AND KITCHEN) AND A
*'PICOREPLAYER' (HTTPS://SITES.GOOGLE.COM/SITE/PICOREPLAYER/HOME)
[b]Server:* Synology DS214 (2TB) NAS running LMS 7.9
*Network:* TP-Link Archer VR200 router, Draytek Vigor 130 VDSL modem,
TP-Link access point
*Livingroom:* Receiver, Linn LP12, Naim 72/Hi-cap/110/Headline amp, B
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[garym]

bits wrote: 
> Where is your local music coming from if not from a server?
> That server might be your pc or a nas but it needs to be available
> somewhere.
> 
> Streaming services may remove the need for local files. Many uses have
> abandoned their local files.
> But if you do desire local files a "server" already exists or you have
> some horrible duplication of all files to all machines?
> 
> Squeezable touch supports/supported a duplication of your files and to
> be connected direct to its usb port.
> But if you are doing that, you are doing it wrong.

Sonos server is essentially built into each unit. The files have to be
served from somewhere locally, but that can be a NAS or some sort of
drive attached to a router, etc.  I assume this is the main reason that
Sonos is not willing to update their software in any significant way
(key issue for me would be the 65,000 track maximum).  Doing so would
effectively make all the old SONOS players unusable with newer units.

In today's world of micro computers the size of a pack of cigarettes
that can run  things like LMS, the need to have a "PC running" has
become less and less of an issue.



*Home:* VortexBox 4TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio
(all ethernet)
*Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.3) > LMS 7.8 > Touch > Benchmark DAC I, Boom,
Radio w/Battery (all ethernet except Radio)
*Office:* Win8(64) > LMS 7.9 > Squeezelite
*Spares:* Transporter, Touch(3), Radio(3), Boom, SB3, CONTROLLER
*Controllers:* iPhone6 & iPadAir2 (iPeng8 & Squeezepad), CONTROLLER, or
SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win7(64) laptop
*Files:* ripping: dbpoweramp > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes;
Streaming: Spotify

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[bits]

TheLastMan wrote: 
>  The requirement for a server is a bit of a pain with SB, and in my
> opinion the main reason it lost out to Sonos. The open software LMS
> server is both the Squeezeboxes main advantage, as it allows plugins to
> extend the capabilities of the system, and downfall - most people don't
> want to have to either turn on a PC to play their music, or have the
> inclination and expertise to install LMS on a NAS or other server to run
> 24/7.

Where is your local music coming from if not from a server?
That server might be your pc or a nasty but it needs to be available
somewhere.

Streaming services may remove the need for local files. Many uses have
abandoned their local files.
But if you do desire local files a "server" already exists or you have
some horrible duplication of all files to all machines?

Squeezable touch supports/supported a duplication of your files and to
be connected direct to its usb port.
But if you are doing that, you are doing it wrong.





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[TheLastMan]

ad6922 wrote: 
> I was going on the same path last year to look for alternatives for
> squeezebox as the LMS-software on my QNAP nas had security breaches.
> 
> In the end I went for a rpi2 with max2play.com. As it is a rather cheap
> alternative I wanted to give it a try.
> 
> By now, it's not a try anymore, but it's here to stay.
> 
> It's simple in daily use and I got the airplay option as an extra. As
> the spotify app have been changed in the last year as well there is no
> need to change
> to a different platform. It does everything that I want it to do.
Ditto.
What I want from my system is to play music from my NAS, my favourite
radio stations, BBC iPlayer Radio and Spotify.  While my squeezeboxes
continue to do those things then I have no reason to change.  The
iPlayer Radio app has been a bit of a struggle recently, but I still
have it working (thanks to "bpa" on this forum).  However, Michael
Herger's recent improvements to the official Spotify app make it even
less likely I will want to change.

The sound quality is up to the player you use and most player hardware
will output a digital stream if you want to use an external DAC.

If I were forced to move to another system it would probably be
Chromecast as so many streaming phone apps support it now. 

Sonos is convenient for those who want "all in one" active speaker
options, but otherwise offers nothing more than you can get with
SqueezeBox for a fraction of the price (if you are of a geeky / DIY
persuasion).



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*'PICOREPLAYER' (HTTPS://SITES.GOOGLE.COM/SITE/PICOREPLAYER/HOME)
[b]Server:* Synology DS214 (2TB) NAS running LMS 7.9
*Network:* TP-Link Archer VR200 router, Draytek Vigor 130 VDSL modem,
TP-Link access point
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[ad6922]

I was going on the same path last year to look for alternatives for
squeezebox as the LMS-software on my QNAP nas had security breaches.

In the end I went for a rpi2 with max2play.com. As it is a rather cheap
alternative I wanted to give it a try.

By now, it's not a try anymore, but it's here to stay.

It's simple in daily use and I got the airplay option as an extra. As
the spotify app have been changed in the last year as well there is no
need to change
to a different platform. It does everything that I want it to do.



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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[GeeJay]

It's good to know Roon is out there should LMS no longer have community
support, but $499 is steep.  Particularly if it closes up shop like SB
did (as a commercial venture, at least).

I've been very happy with my 2 Pi's.  I'm not technically gifted, and I
had little problem setting mine up.  I'll likely step up and purchase a
display at some point, although the one remaining "real" SB in my system
is a Touch and I don't have a real need at the moment for another
display.



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running piCorePlayer.  Mac Mini as a server (OS X Yosemite).  Direct
Ethernet connection (1-SB3 and the Raspberry Pi) and power-line (1-SB3
and Touch).  iPeng is my controller of choice.  LMS 7.8.1

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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[Giza2020]

bobm wrote: 
> I will look up chromecast and see how that works.  I assumed that
> required the device to stream to it.  Thanks Bob

The chromecast needs a cast device such as a phone, itouch or laptop but
one you send the request the device is no longer needed unless you want
to send something else or adjust volume etc.

There is a cast bridge that's been created by Phillipe in the 3rd party
forum which turns the chromecast device into a squeeze device which
really makes it a versatile device.

This also means you can use the logitech controller to control it as the
chromecast essentially is another squeeze device.

Hope that helps?



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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[mdconnelly]

You might want to consider Roon if...

a) you already have one or more Squeezeboxes (Roon will work with them)
b) you don't mind spending a bit of money (Roon has an annual
subscription fee or you can buy a lifetime license)
c) you want a far better UI than LMS provides

It was difficult for me to leave LMS behind, but I've been using Roon
ever since they started supporting Squeezebox endpoints and have really
come to love it.IMO, it's what LMS should/could have become had
Logitech not dumped it.

So why am I still here in the Squeezebox forums?   Well, my kids and a
few stingy friends who don't want to pay for Roon are still using LMS
(often with my help).   Combined with iPeng (and rPIs if you don't have
a Squeezebox), I think LMS is still the best cheap/free solution
available.



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[bobm]

Giza2020 wrote: 
> Chromecast audio is also an option as it doesn't require the phone once
> you've 'casted' the audio. 
> 
> I have pis with HiFiBerry amps and a few chromecast audios and they work
> great.

I will look up chromecast and see how that works.  I assumed that
required the device to stream to it.  Thanks Bob



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[Giza2020]

Look at www.max2play.com for guides on setting up the pi



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[Giza2020]

Chromecast audio is also an option as it doesn't require the phone once
you've 'casted' the audio. 

I have pis with HiFiBerry amps and a few chromecast audios and they work
great.



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[bobm]

I will look into the pi options, have a good link that explains the
process?

>the phone handles all of the stream (the music is transmitted from the
phone to the AirPlay device) so it needs to be always on, must not use
other audio (no Facebook with movie autoplay or websites with audio
while listening to music etc.) and you must not walk away.<
Although easy to use, that seems like a big disadvantage to me.  I would
really want my phone to just be a remote control.  

thanks for your help



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Re: [slim] Questions on alternatives to SB

[pippin]

1) Sonos doesn't require a server software (that's built I to every
device) but the browsing is more basic than for the SB.

2) the phone handles all of the stream (the music is transmitted from
the phone to the AirPlay device) so it needs to be always on, must not
use other audio (no Facebook with movie autoplay or websites with audio
while listening to music etc.) and you must not walk away.

Why don't you just build your own Squeezebox with a Raspberry pi and a
soundcard (e.g. Hifiberry). It's really simple these days because you
can even buy pre-configured SW images and it works pretty well, you can
even run the server on the device.



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