Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-07 Thread garym

something is odd here on your controller. tested my controller. I can
SELECT PLAYER. Once selected I have the menu option to either turn the
selected player ON or OFF (depending on the player's state). If I
select a different player, I have the ON/OFF for that player.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-07 Thread ghostrider

garym;553373 Wrote: 
 something is odd here on your controller. tested my controller. I can
 SELECT PLAYER. Once selected I have the menu option to either turn the
 selected player ON or OFF (depending on the player's state). If I
 select a different player, I have the ON/OFF for that player.

Mine too. Try doing a reset on the back deck player.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-06 Thread ghostrider

Go into Settings  Home Menu, find the option to turn on/off device. Put
a check mark by that option and it will then appear on the main menu.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-06 Thread fishbone

ghostrider;553266 Wrote: 
 Go into Settings  Home Menu, find the option to turn on/off device. Put
 a check mark by that option and it will then appear on the main menu.

Okay...thanks.  Two hiccups...First, ONLY Turn On ***Player Name***
shows up in the SettingsHome Menu List.  It turns on the device but it
does not turn it off.

Second...I have two players (Family Room and Back Deck).  When I have
selected the controller to control the Back Deck, Turn on Back Deck
appears on the Home Menu list.  But when the Family Room player is
selected, it Turn on Back Deck still appears on the Home Menu List. 
When I go into SettingsHome Menu, there is no option to select Turn
on Family Room, ONLY Turn on Back Deck.

Thanks in advance for any additional help.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-06 Thread garym

fishbone;553283 Wrote: 
 Okay...thanks.  Two hiccups...First, ONLY Turn On ***Player Name***
 shows up in the SettingsHome Menu List.  It turns on the device but it
 does not turn it off.
 
 Second...I have two players (Family Room and Back Deck).  When I have
 selected the controller to control the Back Deck, Turn on Back Deck
 appears on the Home Menu list.  But when the Family Room player is
 selected, it Turn on Back Deck still appears on the Home Menu List. 
 When I go into SettingsHome Menu, there is no option to select Turn
 on Family Room, ONLY Turn on Back Deck.
 
 Thanks in advance for any additional help.

You need to add the select player option to your home menu. Then you
can select the appropriate player (that the controller is linked to)
and then subsequently can turn it on or off.  (p.s. this is one of the
reasons I like my ipeng/iphone combo betterI can see all the
players in the system in one place and simply tap to turn on or off any
of the players).


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-06 Thread fishbone

garym;553284 Wrote: 
 You need to add the select player option to your home menu. Then you
 can select the appropriate player (that the controller is linked to)
 and then subsequently can turn it on or off.  (p.s. this is one of the
 reasons I like my ipeng/iphone combo betterI can see all the
 players in the system in one place and simply tap to turn on or off any
 of the players).

Thanks... but that's the problem.  Select Player IS on the home menu.
However, regardless of the player I select, it always says Turn On
Back Deck.  The option doesn't change regardless of which player is
selected and the opportunity to add that function to the Home Menu
doesn't change in SettingsHome Menu.  It only allows me to select
Turn On Back Deck regardless of whether I have the Back Deck player
selected for the Family Room player selected.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-06 Thread garym

h, i'll experiment on mine when I get home.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-06 Thread aubuti

fishbone;553304 Wrote: 
 Thanks... but that's the problem.  Select Player IS on the home menu. 
 However, regardless of the player I select, it always says Turn On Back
 Deck.  The option doesn't change regardless of which player is selected
 and the opportunity to add that function to the Home Menu doesn't change
 in SettingsHome Menu.  It only allows me to select Turn On Back Deck
 regardless of whether I have the Back Deck player selected for the
 Family Room player selected.
That's just weird, and not the way it works (or has ever worked) for
me. Have you done a factory reset on the SBC? Turn it off, then turn it
on while holding down the + key. You will lose any customizations you
have done (eg, setting the home menu items), but it should fix the
situation.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-06 Thread fishbone

Haven't tried a factory reset but maybe I should...not so bad to lose my
custom settings.

Appreciate all the help from everyone.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-06 Thread fishbone

aubuti;553316 Wrote: 
 That's just weird, and not the way it works (or has ever worked) for me.
 Have you done a factory reset on the SBC? Turn it off, then turn it on
 while holding down the + key. You will lose any customizations you
 have done (eg, setting the home menu items), but it should fix the
 situation.

By the way, how do I turn it on?  I just got it and haven't powered it
down yet.  Once I turn it off, how do I turn it on (so I can hold the +
key down?


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox (Duet) Controller

2010-06-06 Thread fishbone

Okay...did a factory reset...nothing changed...still doing the same
thing.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox duet controller

2008-10-04 Thread simbo

Yes!

(I'm told this message is too short, let me try again.)

Yes!


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox duet controller

2008-10-04 Thread sheridan

Thanks, I'll go ahead and buy one then.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet Controller Wireless

2008-07-06 Thread raaurora

pollewops;317511 Wrote: 
 My Squeezebox Duet Receiver is located 5 meters from my wireless access
 point and the signal strength is 24% !
 Could that be the reason that sometimes the music stops playing ?
 
 When I put my laptop in the same range, the signal strength is 100%.
 
 Could the receiver get an external antenna connected maybe ?

Sounds like a problem with the wireless card in the receiver.  My
receiver is approximately the same distance from my router, housed
inside a heavy wooden entertainment center (router sits atop the
entertainment center) and my wireless signal strength is 87%.  I would
have expected in the 90's but I guess that is good enough as I'm not
having issues.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet Controller hangs on update

2008-04-20 Thread Frorsteig

Looks like some people, and myself as well, in this thread (
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46509 ) have gotten it
work by holding down the back key then going to
Settings/Advanced/Software Update and starting it from that point.


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox Duet Controller hangs on update

2008-04-20 Thread kimbl

I think it's explained here:

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46509page=3

Basically if you've been running nightlies, upgrade server to 18963 and
the controller will update correctly.  Certainly that worked for mine
just now which had the same problem.

Yes it shouldn't have happened, but they've responded very quickly to
fix what is after all beta versions of the software...


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-17 Thread ptrainer

autopilot;280504 Wrote: 
 I A/B tested the Receiver Vs Squeezebox 3 (Classic) using the inbuilt
 DAC's though a medium end AMP. I used the same FLAC's in sync and same
 volume, then simply switch imputs. I did this for quite some time with
 various types of music and could find no difference in sound quality.
 They sounded very slightly different - the new one sounded just a
 little warmer to me, but quality wise i could not seperate them.

I compared the Receiver to the SB as well and could hear no difference
in the quality either.


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-17 Thread Zaragon

Lairdl;280476 Wrote: 
 If it is true that the controller won't roam between APs, this could
 explain my configuration trouble:  I have two Netgear WG-102 APs
 running with the same SSID on the same subnet.  It was my assumption
 that the Duet Controller would roam between the two APs, but I am
 having trouble with intermittant connection between the Controller,
 Receiver and my server.  Do I need to force connection to only one AP
 to keep everything happy?  (Powering down when I switch APs would be
 tedious as their coverage overlaps...hard to know when the device would
 switch over)

The controller is trying it's best to remain linked to the AP it is
connected to up until the point at which it gives up. Then it
reconnects to the one with the strongest signal. Forcing it to connect
to only one may improve your experience slightly but is more likely to
cause you problems with drop-outs which is presumably why you have two
APs installed.

If you use the controller predominently around one AP then it may be an
idea to lock it to that one so that it doesn't accidentally connect to
the weaker AP.


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-16 Thread Zaragon

Fatawan;280158 Wrote: 
 Thanks Zaragon--That sounds like an easy enough solution(after I looke
 dt all up :) ). I do have an ethernet port in the theater, AND in the
 equipment room, so I could easily do an access point plus a switch. I
 need more wired connections in the equipment room anyway.

Glad to be of service. I thought I'd mention that a Wireless Access
Point (WAP) isn't a wireless router. So you will need to be a little
careful in your choice.

Although physically they can be identical they have different control
software. Some wireless routers can be configured to be just access
points though. Unfortunately for some reason access points often seem
to be a lot more expensive that wireless routers.

For anyone considering multiple access points/wireless routers. The key
element is the IP address. Unless you manually assign all devices with
their own unique IP address then ideally only one device should be a
DHCP server giving out IP addresses. If there has to be two or more
DHCP servers then ensure that the addresses that they give out do not
overlap each other but that they are all within the same network
address range.

Typical home equipment defaults to using the address range
192.168.0.X/24 or 192.168.1.x/24 (The 24 refers to a simple netmask of
255.255.255.0). This gives a maximum of 254 addresses (since you can't
use .0 or .255 as these are used to broadcast to all devices on the
network). Just ensure that the range of the .X doesn't overlap on any
DHCP server and not fogetting the servers/router's own address.

Using DHCP in general and multiple DHCP in particular means any device
can change it's IP address at any time so you cannot rely upon it for
security or any block/allow filters such as in SqueezeCentre.


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-16 Thread ds2021

radish;279642 Wrote: 
 ?? Sean is saying the same thing there. The digital output circuit is
 identical. Those quotes don't relate to the DAC or the analogue
 outputs.

Apparently. My confusion was clearly the assumption that reference to
digital audio circuitry and DAC was to the same component.


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-16 Thread Lairdl

Zaragon;280111 Wrote: 
  Note that the controller doesn't roam between APs but even a simple
 power down and up again would be enough to get it to switch if you take
 it upstairs and downstairs.

If it is true that the controller won't roam between APs, this could
explain my configuration trouble:  I have two Netgear WG-102 APs
running with the same SSID on the same subnet.  It was my assumption
that the Duet Controller would roam between the two APs, but I am
having trouble with intermittant connection between the Controller,
Receiver and my server.  Do I need to force connection to only one AP
to keep everything happy?  (Powering down when I switch APs would be
tedious as their coverage overlaps...hard to know when the device would
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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-16 Thread autopilot

I A/B tested the Receiver Vs Squeezebox 3 (Classic) using the inbuilt
DAC's though a medium end AMP. I used the same FLAC's in sync and same
volume, then simply switch imputs. I did this for quite some time with
various types of music and could find no difference in sound quality.
They sounded very slightly different - the new one sounded just a
little warmer to me, but quality wise i could not seperate them.


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-15 Thread Fatawan

mvalera;279354 Wrote: 
 
 
 You can connect the Squeezebox Receiver via etherent, and then connect
 the Squeezebox Controller via an ad-hoc wifi connection thru the
 Squeezebox Receiver.
 
 I have mine setup this way at work, and it works very well.

My home theater is deep in my basement, and has a very poor
quality/erratic wifi signal(router is 2 floors up).  I have my
Transporter in a separate room behind the theater. What would I need to
use the Duet Controller with my Transporter? I use a Logitech 1000 with
RF to control everything now. I would LOVE to be able to sit in the
theater and control the Transporter with the Duet COntroler---I'm just
not sure how to accomplish that with no wifi connection and no line of
sight to my Transporter.
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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-15 Thread Zaragon

I'm assuming that your Transporter is wired to the network. In which
case a simple answer is to just get hold of a ethernet switch and
wireless access point and site them with the Transporter. If you use
the same wireless set-up SSID, encryption and keys as your main
wireless then the controller would just attach to which ever AP is
strongest. Note that the controller doesn't roam between APs but even a
simple power down and up again would be enough to get it to switch if
you take it upstairs and downstairs.

You'd also have the advantage of being able to use a laptop down there
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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-15 Thread badbob

Can the controller control SB 3's? Also can you switch between the SB
3's on your LAN?

I have a Speedtouch 780WL, so basically I only need to enable that? My
SB3 are wired only, but I think the Slimserver + controller will
communicate over the LAN anyway to the host software?


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-15 Thread Fatawan

Zaragon;280111 Wrote: 
 I'm assuming that your Transporter is wired to the network. In which
 case a simple answer is to just get hold of a ethernet switch and
 wireless access point and site them with the Transporter. If you use
 the same wireless set-up SSID, encryption and keys as your main
 wireless then the controller would just attach to which ever AP is
 strongest. Note that the controller doesn't roam between APs but even a
 simple power down and up again would be enough to get it to switch if
 you take it upstairs and downstairs.
 
 You'd also have the advantage of being able to use a laptop down there
 as well.

Thanks Zaragon--That sounds like an easy enough solution(after I looke
dt all up :) ). I do have an ethernet port in the theater, AND in the
equipment room, so I could easily do an access point plus a switch. I
need more wired connections in the equipment room anyway.


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-14 Thread Peter
mvalera wrote:

 The Duet obviosuly has no display, but it also has no headphone jack,
 and we went with a different DAC. The Wolfson DAC, while still high
 quality, delivers slightly lower performance than the Squeezebox
 Classic.
   

Hmm, I remember reading Sean or Dean saying that there was no quality 
difference. I suppose that from a marketing viewpoint it may be much 
more attractive to make it seem that an SBC/SB3 combination offers a 
higher quality sound than the much cheaper Duet... ;)

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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-14 Thread mvalera

You remembered incorrectly. 

There is a difference in the analog sound quality as it uses a
different DAC. It is a very slight difference tho, and to my non-golden
ears they sound equally good.

The digital output however, -is- the exact same as the Squeezebox as it
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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-14 Thread ds2021

mvalera;279537 Wrote: 
 You remembered incorrectly. 

I have to admit, my recollection was the same. 

http://forums.slimdevices.com/newreply.php?do=newreplyp=276490

seanadams;276490 Wrote: 
 SB Receiver has exactly the same digital audio circuitry as SB3. The
 output is bit-perfect and extremely low jitter. I am certain that the
 signal is at least as good as what you'd get from a CD player.
 
 I'd suggest checking if your receiver may have that input configured
 for some DSP  processing, eg surround or EQ options. Also check that
 replaygain is disabled as this could reduce the signal level.

http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=266415#post266415

seanadams;266415 Wrote: 
 That's correct. Furthermore, it is the exact same circuit.

I am not sure that it is as simple as our recollection being incorrect.
There is clearly a subtlety here that is missed by some, including
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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-14 Thread radish

ds2021;279614 Wrote: 
 
 I am not sure that it is as simple as our recollection being incorrect.
 There is clearly a subtlety here that is missed by some, including
 myself.

?? Sean is saying the same thing there. The digital output circuit is
identical. Those quotes don't relate to the DAC or the analogue
outputs.


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-14 Thread mvalera

Radish is correct.

Sean was referring to the digital outputs ONLY.

The analog side of the Squeezebox Duet has a slightly lower S/N ratio
as compared to the Squeezebox Classic. Take a look at the specs on the
product pages.

Mike


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-13 Thread Nostromo

terry_gardener;279349 Wrote: 
 
 
 4. I dont have the wifi turned on because it doesn't reach very far.
 can this still work by ethernet including the controller. 
 
 thanks

Short answer: no, sorry. The Controller is wifi.


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-13 Thread mvalera

terry_gardener;279349 Wrote: 
 i have just seen a couple of reviews of the duet and it seems really
 good but just have a couple of questions. 
 
 1. how does the controller connect to the receiver and/or
 squeezecentre.

The Squeezebox Controller interfaces with/controls SqueezeCenter or
SqueezeNetwork via wifi, and they actually control the Squeezebox
Receiver.

 2. can the squeezecentre 7.0 be installed on the qnap ts101. 
http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=24t=1197st=0sk=tsd=astart=15#p12579

 3. is the only difference between the duet and squeezebox 2 the
 controller.

The Duet obviosuly has no display, but it also has no headphone jack,
and we went with a different DAC. The Wolfson DAC, while still high
quality, delivers slightly lower performance than the Squeezebox
Classic.

 4. I dont have the wifi turned on because it doesn't reach very far. can
 this still work by ethernet including the controller. 

You can connect the Squeezebox Receiver via etherent, and then connect
the Squeezebox Controller via an ad-hoc wifi connection thru the
Squeezebox Receiver.


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-13 Thread radish

 
 1. how does the controller connect to the receiver and/or
 squeezecentre.
 
The controller connects via wifi to your network. It communicates with
the squeeze center software.

 
 2. can the squeezecentre 7.0 be installed on the qnap ts101. 
 
I believe I saw an announcement about this recently, check the Third
Party Hardware forum.

 
 3. is the only difference between the duet and squeezebox 2 the
 controller. 
 
I assume you mean the SB3 not SB2. The only functional differences are
that the SB3 has a display which the receiver doesn't, and the SB3 also
has a headphone socket.

 
 4. I dont have the wifi turned on because it doesn't reach very far.
 can this still work by ethernet including the controller. 
 
The receiver will connect via wired ethernet, the controller requires
wifi.


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-13 Thread terry_gardener

if you can adhoc wifi connect the controller with the receiver and
connect the receiver via ethernet that would be ok. 

if the above cannot be done what is the range on the controller
becaused my sb2 doesn't connect properly using wireless due to the
range


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Re: [slim] squeezebox duet controller

2008-03-13 Thread SuperQ

terry_gardener;279371 Wrote: 
 if you can adhoc wifi connect the controller with the receiver and
 connect the receiver via ethernet that would be ok.
Yes, that works fine.

 
 if the above cannot be done what is the range on the controller
 becaused my sb2 doesn't connect properly using wireless due to the
 range
It's not any better than the SB2 as far as I can tell.  How far away is
your wifi AP from the SB2?

Right now the SB2/3 can't act as an ad-hoc server for the Controller,
but it's a proposed feature.


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