Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
bpa wrote: > I can't be definitive about what you have experienced. > Some of your events may have been "low level of volume" but the USB > disconnects were real, mainly at startup and they also happened "mid > stream". > It is also possible vendor has described the problem as experienced by > the user and not technically. > > Whatever the issue, the firmware has been changed and problem may be > gone or just minimised ( firmware notes say that it is a h/w issue and > the h/w cannot be fixed). > > If you experience a similar issue again and can see it in the logs/dmesg > - I'd report it to vendor - there is a chance you may get a > refund/replacement. Thanks for the information I'll have another listening session soon and if it persists I'll contact the vendor, once again thanks very much for your hel it's much appreciated. Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > I see thanks I can't be definitive about what you have experienced. Some of your events may have been "low level of volume" but the USB disconnects were real, mainly at startup and they also happened "mid stream". It is also possible vendor has described the problem as experienced by the user and not technically. Whatever the issue, the firmware has been changed and problem may be gone or just minimised ( firmware notes say that it is a h/w issue and the h/w cannot be fixed). If you experience a similar issue again and can see it in the logs/dmesg - I'd report it to vendor - there is a chance you may get a refund/replacement. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
bpa wrote: > I have no idea about the product. To me it is a black box plugged into > a USB Port. > > The update notes said the issue was "momentary attenuation of volume" - > this is not device disconnecting from USB. The Linux specific note says > "Some combinations of LINUX and source hardware configurations may cause > SRC-DX to output very low volume". You are suffering a disconnection. > It is only LMS' ability to reconnect automagically and continue streams > that results in a short gap in audio - other players would stop. > > The "warning "message is logged against usb 1-3 is the SRC-DX device. > > Code: > > > [Mon Feb 07 12:54:52 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 > [Mon Feb 07 12:54:52 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 > [Mon Feb 07 12:54:52 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX > [Mon Feb 07 12:54:52 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc > [Mon Feb 07 12:54:52 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B > > > I see thanks Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Don't forget this connects to the MScaler not the dac, the notes also > mentioned random dropping of signal I have no idea about the product. To me it is a black box plugged into a USB Port. The update notes said the issue was "momentary attenuation of volume" - this is not device disconnecting from USB. The Linux specific note says "Some combinations of LINUX and source hardware configurations may cause SRC-DX to output very low volume". You are suffering a disconnection. It is only LMS' ability to reconnect automagically and continue streams that results in a short gap in audio - other players would stop. The "warning "message is logged against usb 1-3 is the SRC-DX device. Code: [Mon Feb 07 12:54:52 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 [Mon Feb 07 12:54:52 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [Mon Feb 07 12:54:52 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX [Mon Feb 07 12:54:52 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc [Mon Feb 07 12:54:52 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
bpa wrote: > It looks a lot cleaner. > Even though notes indicated the update was to do with an excess Volume > issue, clearly some other changes were made as the "warning" message > -"usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1"- has also > disappeared. > > edit: > > Oops - not gone yet - just moved - it appears close to snd-usb-audio > messages - so I think it is still related to the DAC. > > Code: > > > [Mon Feb 07 12:54:54 2022] usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1 > > > Don't forget this connects to the MScaler not the dac, the notes also mentioned random dropping of signal Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Hi there, thanks again for your help, I'updated the firmware on the > SRC-DX and there doesn't seem to be any disconnect messages from dmesg > anymore so fingers crossed I may have it working. > 37162 It looks a lot cleaner. Even though notes indicated the update was to do with an excess Volume issue, clearly some other changes were made as the "warning" message -"usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1"- has also disappeared. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
bpa wrote: > I think it is the SRC-DX. > > In the boot sequence, within 14 secs it takes 6 attempts to bring it > online - 5 times the device disconnects. This is not right. > > If no other device has a problem with that socket - then the SRC-DX is > somehow the likely source. It maybe electrical such as a power issue or > a physical such as erratic connection in socket. > > > Code: > > > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] mc: Linux media interface: v0.10 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 3 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:41 2022] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:41 2022] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:41 2022] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:44 2022] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 4 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:47 2022] e1000e :00:19.0 eth0: NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: Rx/Tx > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:47 2022] e1000e :00:19.0 eth0: 10/100 speed: disabling TSO > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:47 2022] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:49 2022] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 5 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:51 2022] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 6 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 7 using xhci_hcd > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc > [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B > > > > Hi there, thanks again for your help, I'updated the firmware on the SRC-DX and there doesn't seem to be any disconnect messages from dmesg anymore so fingers crossed I may have it working. 37162 +---+ |Filename: dmesg4.txt | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37162| +---+ Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in bro
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > There is a firmware update dated 12/2021 for the SRC-DX here > https://audiowise-canada.myshopify.com/products/src-dx > May be worth a try Wow this place is amazing - I'll check it out thanks Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
There is a firmware update dated 12/2021 for the SRC-DX here https://audiowise-canada.myshopify.com/products/src-dx May be worth a try Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
I think it is the SRC-DX. In the boot sequence, within 14 secs it takes 6 attempts to bring it online - 5 times the device disconnects. This is not right. If no other device has a problem with that socket - then the SRC-DX is somehow the likely source. It maybe electrical such as a power issue or a physical such as erratic connection in socket. Code: [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] mc: Linux media interface: v0.10 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:38 2022] usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 3 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 4 using xhci_hcd [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B [Thu Feb 03 13:05:39 2022] usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:41 2022] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized [Thu Feb 03 13:05:41 2022] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized [Thu Feb 03 13:05:41 2022] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:44 2022] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 4 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:47 2022] e1000e :00:19.0 eth0: NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: Rx/Tx [Thu Feb 03 13:05:47 2022] e1000e :00:19.0 eth0: 10/100 speed: disabling TSO [Thu Feb 03 13:05:47 2022] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 5 using xhci_hcd [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B [Thu Feb 03 13:05:48 2022] usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:49 2022] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 5 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 6 using xhci_hcd [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B [Thu Feb 03 13:05:50 2022] usb 1-3: 1:4 : unsupported format bits 0x1 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:51 2022] usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 6 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: new high-speed USB device number 7 using xhci_hcd [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device found, idVendor=2fc6, idProduct=6013, bcdDevice= 2.01 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: Product: SRC-DX [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: Manufacturer: AudioWise-inc [Thu Feb 03 13:05:52 2022] usb 1-3: SerialNumber: CTUA171130B bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Bugger I thought we were on to something :-( I think it determines that its either the USB port on the NUC or an intermittent fault on your SBCDX. As there is nothing in dmesg the latter is more likely. Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > The cupsd is a midnight tidy up not related to usb disconnect Bugger I thought we were on to something :-( Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > It's a pity dmesg doesn't show the time and date in a human readable > state > > Edit > I managed to show time and date > > 37156 > > see line 896 The cupsd is a midnight tidy up not related to usb disconnect Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > Looks like a print related issue just before the usb disconnect > /sbin/cupsd is the print service I think It's a pity dmesg doesn't show the time and date in a human readable state Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > I think dmesg type messages mean a lot more to you than me :-) > > 37155 Looks like a print related issue just before the usb disconnect /sbin/cupsd is the print service I think Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
bpa wrote: > The DAC dropping off USB should be logged by kernel and recorded in > dmesg. If you can the entry in dmesg, check if there is any other > activity just before that event. I think dmesg type messages mean a lot more to you than me :-) 37155 +---+ |Filename: dmesg.txt| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37155| +---+ Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
The DAC dropping off USB should be logged by kernel and recorded in dmesg. If you can the entry in dmesg, check if there is any other activity just before that event. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > Just copy and paste url directly Doh !!! Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > I will thanks - if it consistently didn't work I would understand it > better, but it works 99.99% od the time and it sounds incredible , it's > very frustrating - once again thanks for your efforts - whats the markup > to post a hyperlink on here ? Just copy and paste url directly Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > I can see the benefit in connecting the mscaler to the Dave by bnc to > enable upsampling and the RF noise issue generated by the mscaler but my > quick read of mscaler manual does not indicate any benefit on the input > side. It say computer via USB or CD transport via bnc > > From what bpa has discovered Alsa loses sight of the sbc-xd. What not > try the mscaler connected to NUC directly via USB. I will thanks - if it consistently didn't work I would understand it better, but it works 99.99% od the time and it sounds incredible , it's very frustrating - once again thanks for your efforts - whats the markup to post a hyperlink on here ? Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > It allows you to send the data via BNC to the MScaler > > Edit > To help you more with your analysis my playing session started about > 20:00 on Friday and ended about 23:15 - I do appreciate your efforts > here pkfox wrote: > Allegedly it implicitly disables the USB input of the MScaler thus > reducing noise, it also allows you to use a BNC cable to reduce the > significant RF noise generated by the MScaler > one of these > > Code: > > > https://www.wavehighfidelity.com/storm-1/wave-storm-bnc-cable > > > > sorry I don't know how to post hyperlinks on here I can see the benefit in connecting the mscaler to the Dave by bnc to enable upsampling and the RF noise issue generated by the mscaler but my quick read of mscaler manual does not indicate any benefit on the input side. It say computer via USB or CD transport via bnc >From what bpa has discovered Alsa loses sight of the sbc-xd. What not try the mscaler connected to NUC directly via USB. Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > But what does that supposed to gain you over direct USB? Allegedly it implicitly disables the USB input of the MScaler thus reducing noise, it also allows you to use a BNC cable to reduce the significant RF noise generated by the MScaler one of these Code: https://www.wavehighfidelity.com/storm-1/wave-storm-bnc-cable sorry I don't know how to post hyperlinks on here Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > It allows you to send the data via BNC to the Mscaler But what does that supposed to gain you over direct USB? Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > Ive just had a look at your signal path in your signature. > > What is gained by the sbc-dx -> bnc-> part? Why not USB -> Chord Hugo > direct? > If I understand correctly you are delivering 16/44.1 FLAC to the Hugo > for upsampling to your Dave? I cant see what the sbc-dx does to improve > things - it just converts to BNC doesnt it? It allows you to send the data via BNC to the MScaler Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
Just looking back a bit further the 00:00:00:00:00 happens after the restart which then fails to open the ALSA device The restart seems to happens becuase the ALSA device is "no longer available" but there is a long gap. Code: [11:58:58.928792] output_thread:775 pcm wait error: No such device [11:58:58.928821] output_thread:727 Device hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 no longer available [11:58:58.928829] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_drop:704 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_DROP failed (-19) [11:58:58.928852] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_hw_free:490 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_FREE failed (-19) [11:58:58.928898] alsa_close:268 snd_pcm_close error: No such device [11:58:58.929199] ALSA _snd_pcm_hw_open:1829 Invalid value for card [11:58:58.929216] output_thread:665 waiting for device hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 to return [11:59:00.005392] process:528 strm [11:59:00.005506] process_strm:280 strm command t [11:59:00.005566] sendSTAT:195 STAT: STMt [11:59:03.929555] ALSA _snd_pcm_hw_open:1829 Invalid value for card [11:59:03.929580] output_thread:665 waiting for device hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 to return [11:59:05.002508] process:528 strm [11:59:05.002589] process_strm:280 strm command t [11:59:05.002614] sendSTAT:195 STAT: STMt [11:59:08.929837] output_thread:685 open output device: hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 [11:59:08.929869] alsa_open:354 opening device at: 44100 [11:59:08.929991] alsa_open:425 opened device hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 using format: S32_LE sample rate: 44100 mmap: 1 [11:59:08.930017] alsa_open:516 buffer: 40 period: 4 -> buffer size: 1764 period size: 441 [11:59:09.004157] process:528 strm [11:59:09.004188] process_strm:280 strm command t [11:59:09.004195] sendSTAT:195 STAT: STMt [11:59:14.005196] process:528 strm [11:59:14.005240] process_strm:280 strm command t [11:59:14.005258] sendSTAT:195 STAT: STMt [11:59:15.153810] output_thread:775 pcm wait error: No such device [11:59:15.153841] output_thread:727 Device hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 no longer available [11:59:15.153850] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_drop:704 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_DROP failed (-19) [11:59:15.153867] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_hw_free:490 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_FREE failed (-19) [11:59:15.153939] alsa_close:268 snd_pcm_close error: No such device [11:59:15.154147] ALSA _snd_pcm_hw_open:1829 Invalid value for card [11:59:15.154155] output_thread:665 waiting for device hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 to return . . . [13:05:42.755580] output_thread:727 Device hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 no longer available [13:05:42.755594] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_drop:704 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_DROP failed (-19) [13:05:42.755624] ALSA snd_pcm_hw_hw_free:490 SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_HW_FREE failed (-19) [13:05:42.755668] alsa_close:268 snd_pcm_close error: No such device [13:05:42.755977] ALSA _snd_pcm_hw_open:1829 Invalid value for card [13:05:42.755992] output_thread:665 waiting for device hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 to return [13:05:43.599442] discover_server:795 sending discovery [13:05:43.599489] discover_server:799 error sending disovery [13:05:47.756381] ALSA _snd_pcm_hw_open:1829 Invalid value for card [13:05:47.756419] output_thread:665 waiting for device hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 to return [13:05:48.603451] discover_server:795 sending discovery [13:05:48.603688] discover_server:806 got response from: 10.10.1.4:3483 [13:05:48.603744] slimproto:898 connecting to 10.10.1.4:3483 [13:05:48.603873] slimproto:937 connected [13:05:48.603898] slimproto:948 local player bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
Ive just had a look at your signal path in your signature. What is gained by the sbc-dx -> bnc-> part? Why not USB -> Chord Hugo direct? If I understand correctly you are delivering 16/44.1 FLAC to the Hugo for upsampling to your Dave? I cant see what the sbc-dx does to improve things - it just converts to BNC doesnt it? Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > How do I find the mac address ? > > Ok I found it > > Code: > > > b8:ae:ed:75:a6:3a > > > It looks like squeezelite was OK at the start and then squeezelite get restarted at 13:05 and it has lost the MAC address. The MAC address usually comes from the OS !! Not sure if this is the problem but it is odd. Code: . . . [10:07:35.748103] sendHELO:148 mac: b8:ae:ed:75:a6:3a . . . [13:05:48.603911] sendHELO:148 mac: 00:00:00:00:00:00 . . bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
bpa wrote: > What is the mac address of the player ? > > > Code: > > > 23:02:50.320590] process_strm:280 strm command s > [23:02:50.320604] process_strm:350 strm s autostart: 1 transition period: 10 transition type: 0 codec: f > [23:02:50.320616] sendSTAT:195 STAT: STMf > [23:02:50.320644] codec_open:264 codec open: 'f' > [23:02:50.320680] connect_socket:164 connecting to 10.10.1.4:9000 > [23:02:50.320769] stream_sock:600 header: GET /stream.mp3?player=00:00:00:00:00:00 HTTP/1.0 > > [23:02:50.320785] sendSTAT:195 STAT: STMc > [23:02:50.320799] process_strm:384 set fade mode: 0, channels: 0, invert: 0 > [23:02:50.320818] process:528 audg > [23:02:50.320828] process_audg:440 audg gainL: 65536 gainR: 65536 adjust: 0 > [23:02:50.320837] set_volume:233 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536 > > > How do I find the mac address ? Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > I had a look at the log and there is no mention of any errors What is the mac address of the player ? Code: 23:02:50.320590] process_strm:280 strm command s [23:02:50.320604] process_strm:350 strm s autostart: 1 transition period: 10 transition type: 0 codec: f [23:02:50.320616] sendSTAT:195 STAT: STMf [23:02:50.320644] codec_open:264 codec open: 'f' [23:02:50.320680] connect_socket:164 connecting to 10.10.1.4:9000 [23:02:50.320769] stream_sock:600 header: GET /stream.mp3?player=00:00:00:00:00:00 HTTP/1.0 [23:02:50.320785] sendSTAT:195 STAT: STMc [23:02:50.320799] process_strm:384 set fade mode: 0, channels: 0, invert: 0 [23:02:50.320818] process:528 audg [23:02:50.320828] process_audg:440 audg gainL: 65536 gainR: 65536 adjust: 0 [23:02:50.320837] set_volume:233 setting internal gain left: 65536 right: 65536 bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > It still draws power over USB though doesnt it? I suppose it must do Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
Does the NUC have analog audio out? You could try that which might eliminate Squeezelite as the issue and then try a USB DAC if you have one. If that has issues it would point to a USB issue - perhaps losing power for a microsecond or similar. If a USB DAC works flawlessly then the issue could well be the sbc-dx device. Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
bpa wrote: > too big even if the file is zipped ? > > if the log captured the event then good. If not then it is possible to > try lower level of logging. I had a look at the log and there is no mention of any errors +---+ |Filename: squeezelite.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37149| +---+ Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > I don't have USB2, and in my case the USB from the NUC feeds a src-dx It still draws power over USB though doesnt it? Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > I run it as a service and have debugging enabled , unfortunately I > can't attach it here as its too big > > This is the output from systemctl status squeezelite.service > > Code: > > > /usr/bin/squeezelite -n NUC -o hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 -d all debug -f /var/log/squeezelite/squeezelite.log > > > too big even if the file is zipped ? if the log captured the event then good. If not then it is possible to try lower level of logging. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
Man in a van wrote: > I think this is something to do with the on-board wireless interfering > with USB-3 ? > > ronnie I've disabled the Wifi interface but the card is still there Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
slartibartfast wrote: > Probably because most DACs are USB2. If you read it on the internet it > must be true [emoji1787]. I suppose advice is try USB2 and if the issue > is still present then that wasn't the problem. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I don't have USB2 Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > You are correct about the turntable. > > So its not my imagination you have also seen advice about not using > USB3 for DACs.Probably because most DACs are USB2. If you read it on the > internet it must be true [emoji1787]. I suppose advice is try USB2 and if the issue is still present then that wasn't the problem. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
slartibartfast wrote: > I think the counterbalance was a vinyl turntable joke [emoji2]. As far > as I know USB2 is always recommended for DACS but I don't know why. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk You are correct about the turntable. So its not my imagination you have also seen advice about not using USB3 for DACs. Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
bpa wrote: > How do you run squeezelite ? as a service ? > Can you set up squeezelite to save its log output so that when next > incident occurs, any error noticed by squeezelite is logged I run it as a service and have debugging enabled , unfortunately I can't attach it here as its too big Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Hi there, don't know what you mean by counterbalance and I'm using USB 3 > - can't see how the USB version would cause my problem though - thanks > for replyingI think the counterbalance was a vinyl turntable joke [emoji2]. > As far as I know USB2 is always recommended for DACS but I don't know why. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Too give you a bit more detailed information about my setup > Both LMS and SqueezeLite are run on the NUC > All my flacs are 44.1 > All I've done with ALSA is adjusted the volume > The problem isn't predictable. How do you run squeezelite ? as a service ? Can you set up squeezelite to save its log output so that when next incident occurs, any error noticed by squeezelite is logged bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
bpa wrote: > Just being analytical. There are three possible sources. > > 1. OS - e.g. USB port is being put on power save or something. A really > weird possibility is that if you are not using "Localplayer" settings > (i.e. squeezelite playing from network and not directly from file) - a > network interface issue may possibly affect playback. Any message in > Linux log about the USB port such as data errors ? > 2. ALSA - various parameters settings are just borderline. > 3. LMS/Squeezelite issue > > For LMS/ Squeezelite issues - I'd check on squeezelite log or console > output - depends on how you run it. > > ALSA settings. The right settings seems to be trial and error but if the > files you are playing tend to be high sample rate (e.g. 192kHz) , large > sample size (32bit) rather than 48kHz/16bit- then custom settings may be > useful. > > Is the problem anyway predicable (e.g. stop at the same place such as x > secs from the end, 5 mins into track etc., after 3 hours playing, after > playing files of different sample rates) ? Too give you a bit more detailed information about my setup Both LMS and SqueezeLite are run on the NUC All my flacs are 44.1 All I've done with ALSA is adjusted the volume The problem isn't predictable. Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
RobbH wrote: > On second thought, you already said that you tried replacing the NUC > with a NanoPi M4 and had no skips. That suggests that the problem may > well be with the NUC, perhaps both USB ports, as d6jg suggested. With > that in mind, my latest suggestion is that you go back to the NanoPi and > continue using it long enough to feel confident that the skips are no > longer occurring. If you do, eventually, hear skips with the NanoPi, > then it's probably time to investigate the rest of the signal path. Yes that's what I was thinking of doing Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
RobbH wrote: > Have you upgraded squeezelite to the latest version? While I don't think > that's very likely to solve your problems, it might be worthwhile to > eliminate that possibility before proceeding. And it's probably easier > than the next step. > > Do you, by any chance, still have any older gear around? I'm thinking of > usb cables, DAC; everything in the signal path between your NUC and the > amplifier. If possible, replace that entire path, temporarily, with > other components. The ideal choice would be older gear that used to work > without skipping, even though the quality might not be as good. That > might help isolate the problem. Yes I'm using the latest version Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > I cant resist saying - is the counterbalance properly adjusted? > > Seriously. Are these USB 3 ports? I saw somewhere that the perceived > wisdom is to not use USB 3 for Audio DACs but instead use USB 1 or 2. > The Pi 4 has both USB 3 (blue) and USB 2 and Im sure I read a technote > to ensure you use USB 2 for audio. Hi there, don't know what you mean by counterbalance and I'm using USB 3 - can't see how the USB version would cause my problem though - thanks for replying Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
d6jg wrote: > I cant resist saying - is the counterbalance properly adjusted? > > Seriously. Are these USB 3 ports? I saw somewhere that the perceived > wisdom is to not use USB 3 for Audio DACs but instead use USB 1 or 2. > The Pi 4 has both USB 3 (blue) and USB 2 and Im sure I read a technote > to ensure you use USB 2 for audio. I think this is something to do with the on-board wireless interfering with USB-3 ? ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
RobbH wrote: > > Do you, by any chance, still have any older gear around? I'm thinking of > usb cables, DAC; everything in the signal path between your NUC and the > amplifier. If possible, replace that entire path, temporarily, with > other components. The ideal choice would be older gear that used to work > without skipping, even though the quality might not be as good. That > might help isolate the problem. On second thought, you already said that you tried replacing the NUC with a NanoPi M4 and had no skips. That suggests that the problem may well be with the NUC, perhaps both USB ports, as d6jg suggested. With that in mind, my latest suggestion is that you go back to the NanoPi and continue using it long enough to feel confident that the skips are no longer occurring. If you do, eventually, hear skips with the NanoPi, then it's probably time to investigate the rest of the signal path. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
Just being analytical. There are three possible sources. 1. OS - e.g. USB port is being put on power save or something. A really weird possibility is that if you are not using "Localplayer" settings (i.e. squeezelite playing from network and not directly from file) - a network interface issue may possibly affect playback. Any message in Linux log about the USB port such as data errors ? 2. ALSA - various parameters settings are just borderline. 3. LMS/Squeezelite issue For LMS/ Squeezelite issues - I'd check on squeezelite log or console output - depends on how you run it. ALSA settings. The right settings seems to be trial and error but if the files you are playing tend to be high sample rate (e.g. 192kHz) , large sample size (32bit) rather than 48kHz/16bit- then custom settings may be useful. Is the problem anyway predicable (e.g. stop at the same place such as x secs from the end, 5 mins into track etc., after 3 hours playing, after playing files of different sample rates) ? bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Spoke too soon - decent length playing session last night and it's still > happening Have you upgraded squeezelite to the latest version? While I don't think that's very likely to solve your problems, it might be worthwhile to eliminate that possibility before proceeding. And it's probably easier than the next step. Do you, by any chance, still have any older gear around? I'm thinking of usb cables, DAC; everything in the signal path between your NUC and the amplifier. If possible, replace that entire path, temporarily, with other components. The ideal choice would be older gear that used to work without skipping, even though the quality might not be as good. That might help isolate the problem. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Spoke too soon - decent length playing session last night and it's still > happening I cant resist saying - is the counterbalance properly adjusted? Seriously. Are these USB 3 ports? I saw somewhere that the perceived wisdom is to not use USB 3 for Audio DACs but instead use USB 1 or 2. The Pi 4 has both USB 3 (blue) and USB 2 and Im sure I read a technote to ensure you use USB 2 for audio. Jim https://jukeradio.double6.net VB2.4[/B] STORAGE *QNAP TS419P (NFS) [B]Living Room* Joggler & Pi4/Khadas -> Onkyo TXNR686 -> Celestion F20s *Office* Joggler & Pi3 -> Denon RCD N8 -> Celestion F10s *Dining Room* SB Radio *Bedroom (Bedside)* Pi Zero+DAC ->ToppingTP21 ->AKG Headphones *Bedroom (TV) & Bathroom* SB Touch ->Denon AVR ->Mordaunt Short M10s + Kef ceiling speakers *Guest Room* Joggler > Topping Amp -> Wharfedale Modus Cubes d6jg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44051 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
RobbH wrote: > That's great! It hadn't occurred to me to try a different USB port. I'm > glad you thought of it. > > Thanks for your help, too. I use LMS Documenter. Spoke too soon - decent length playing session last night and it's still happening Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
RobbH wrote: > That's great! It hadn't occurred to me to try a different USB port. I'm > glad you thought of it. > > Thanks for your help, too. I use LMS Documenter. Good man I thought that had died a death :-) Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Hi Rob, > thanks once again for your help, I have made some progress, I replaced > the NUC as the music source, with one of my NanopiM4 SBC boards, > installed LMS and Squeezlite on it - fired it up and SUCCESS NOT ONE > JUMP !!! , so I concluded it must be the USB on the NUC causing the > problem. Reinstated the NUC as the music source but this time I used a > different USB port ( there are two on it ) and bingo it didn't jump once > - It must be a dodgy usb port - thanks again for all your help it's much > appreciated That's great! It hadn't occurred to me to try a different USB port. I'm glad you thought of it. Thanks for your help, too. I use LMS Documenter. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
RobbH wrote: > Thanks. You could try any of the SRC-DX outputs to see if they play > without the occasional skips. I think iec958:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 is the > most likely candidate, but plughw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 might also be worth a > try. > > Please do understand that what I'm saying now is purely speculative. > This is the sort of experimentation I would do if I were having this > problem. It's the sort of experimentation I have done in the past, but > not for precisely the same problem. But I have no experience with the > equipment you're using downstream, so I could be entirely wrong. > > How often do the skips occur? Are they infrequent enough that you might > decide to live with them, if we can't find an easy solution? If we need > to keep digging, it might be helpful to know some more details about > your Linux box. Your sig describes the hardware as "Intel NUC i5 Debian > 16gb RAM 1TB" but doesn't tell us what version of Debian it's running. Hi Rob, thanks once again for your help, I have made some progress, I replaced the NUC as the music source, with one of my NanopiM4 SBC boards, installed LMS and Squeezlite on it - fired it up and SUCCESS NOT ONE JUMP !!! , so I concluded it must be the USB on the NUC causing the problem. Reinstated the NUC as the music source but this time I used a different USB port ( there are two on it ) and bingo it didn't jump once - It must be a dodgy usb port - thanks again for all your help it's much appreciated Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRCDX -> Wave Storm BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Ok here it is > /usr/bin/squeezelite -n NUC -o hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 > > 37108 Thanks. You could try any of the SRC-DX outputs to see if they play without the occasional skips. I think iec958:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 is the most likely candidate, but plughw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 might also be worth a try. Please do understand that what I'm saying now is purely speculative. This is the sort of experimentation I would do if I were having this problem. It's the sort of experimentation I have done in the past, but not for precisely the same problem. But I have no experience with the equipment you're using downstream, so I could be entirely wrong. How often do the skips occur? Are they infrequent enough that you might decide to live with them, if we can't find an easy solution? If we need to keep digging, it might be helpful to know some more details about your Linux box. Your sig describes the hardware as "Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB" but doesn't tell us what version of Debian it's running. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
RobbH wrote: > Sorry, what I meant to ask was how your output device is identified on > the squeezelite command line. It's the -o option. > > For instance, one of my players starts up with this command: > > > Code: > > squeezelite -z -n LivingRoom -o iec958:CARD=Control,DEV=0 > > > > Another one uses this as the output: > > > Code: > > plughw:CARD=sndrpihifiberry,DEV=0 > > > > Again, you can get a list of the available options by running > squeezelite -l . The list will probably include several different ways > of addressing the same device. For instance, this is the list of > options I get for my preferred output device, using the squeezelite -l > command on my living room system: > > > Code: > > sysdefault:CARD=Control- Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Default Audio Device > front:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Front speakers > surround21:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers > surround40:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers > surround41:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers > surround50:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers > surround51:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers > surround71:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers > iec958:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output > dmix:CARD=Control,DEV=0- Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Direct sample mixing device > dsnoop:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Direct sample snooping device > hw:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Direct hardware device without any conversions > plughw:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Hardware device with all software conversions > usbstream:CARD=Control - Khadas Tone Control - USB Stream Output > > > Ok here it is /usr/bin/squeezelite -n NUC -o hw:CARD=SRCDX,DEV=0 Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRC-DX -> BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Im using a USB output into a src-dx bnc converter Sorry, what I meant to ask was how your output device is identified on the squeezelite command line. It's the -o option. For instance, one of my players starts up with this command: Code: squeezelite -z -n LivingRoom -o iec958:CARD=Control,DEV=0 Another one uses this as the output: Code: plughw:CARD=sndrpihifiberry,DEV=0 Again, you can get a list of the available options by running squeezelite -l . The list will probably include several different ways of addressing the same device. For instance, this is the list of options I get for my preferred output device, using the squeezelite -l command on my living room system: Code: sysdefault:CARD=Control- Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Default Audio Device front:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Front speakers surround21:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers surround40:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers surround41:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround50:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers surround51:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers surround71:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - 7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers iec958:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output dmix:CARD=Control,DEV=0- Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Direct sample mixing device dsnoop:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Direct sample snooping device hw:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Direct hardware device without any conversions plughw:CARD=Control,DEV=0 - Khadas Tone Control, USB Audio - Hardware device with all software conversions usbstream:CARD=Control - Khadas Tone Control - USB Stream Output LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
Im using a USB output into a src-dx bnc converter Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRC-DX -> BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > It's an SSD so that can't happen AFAIK, it happens when there is only > one file in the playlist - thanks for your patience And thanks for your patience! I've asked a lot of questions but haven't been able to offer any help. I can only think of two things that might be worth trying: 1. upgrade squeezelite to the latest version from https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/squeezelite/linux/ 2. try a different output. You can list the available outputs with the command squeezelite -l (that's a lower case letter L). Maybe I should ask which output you are currently using? I hope somebody else will have some fresh ideas for you! LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
RobbH wrote: > If you have only the one player, there's nothing to check! If you had > multiple players, they could be synchronized, playing the same thing at > the same time. In that situation, it's sometimes necessary for one to > skip ahead in order to stay in sync. But that's clearly not your issue. > > Is this more likely to happen with very long files? Some of us have > occasionally had a problem with music playing from a hard drive, if the > hard drive spins down while a long selection is playing, there may be a > delay while it wakes up when it's time to read more data. It's an SSD so that can't happen AFAIK, it happens when there is only one file in the playlist - thanks for yout patience Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRC-DX -> BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
pkfox wrote: > Hi there, thanks for replying, I play flac files, largely it happens > near the end of the file - I only have one player - how do I check the > sync setting ? If you have only the one player, there's nothing to check! If you had multiple players, they could be synchronized, playing the same thing at the same time. In that situation, it's sometimes necessary for one to skip ahead in order to stay in sync. But that's clearly not your issue. Is this more likely to happen with very long files? Some of us have occasionally had a problem with music playing from a hard drive, if the hard drive spins down while a long selection is playing, there may be a delay while it wakes up when it's time to read more data. LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
RobbH wrote: > Just the one player alone, not synchronized with any others? > > Does it happen consistently with any specific files, or certain types of > files? > > Does it happen anywhere within the file, or is it usually near the > beginning, near the end, or after the file has been playing for some > time? Hi there, thanks for replying, I play flac files, largely it happens near the end of the file - I only have one player - how do I check the sync setting ? Intel NUC i5 Debian 16gb RAM 1TB SSD -> LMS -> Squeezelite -> Sablon EVO USB -> SRC-DX -> BNC -> Chord Hugo MScaler -> dual BNC -> Chord DAVE DAC -> Meridian 551 -> Monitor Audio Gold -> Me Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming Wow! What a Ride! - Hunter S Thompson - RIP pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezelite / LMS jumping on playback
Just the one player alone, not synchronized with any others? Does it happen consistently with any specific files, or certain types of files? Does it happen anywhere within the file, or is it usually near the beginning, near the end, or after the file has been playing for some time? LMS 8 nightly running on Raspberry Pi OS. Mostly virtual players, occasionally with SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115888 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
