Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-07-01 Thread iPhone

socistep;436816 Wrote: 
 iPhone - you look to have a fair few zones, whats your experiencing
 with syncing been ? At present I only sync 2, the Boom  the Duet and
 its flawless but wondered what it was like with more players ?

I have had very good experiences in Syncing all or as many of my
players as I want for what I have going on in the house at the time. The
last few SC updates have really cleared this area up. IMO it is fixed to
the point that only total number of Sync'd Players reaching a maximum or
running out of bandwidth using wireless or running FLAC without enough
CPU  memory are now the only limits. And these as I said just seem to
be limits, not issues with Syncing as these are limits that would be
reached whether the Players are Sync'd or all playing something
different.

I am running the Sync just as it is. I have not messed with any options
or setting.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-07-01 Thread iPhone

autopilot;436832 Wrote: 
 Could someone explain that to me please!

It's about why can't we all get alone no matter what our differences
are. I think this 'You Tube'
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlLPAIrmqvENR=1) works better at
explaining it.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-07-01 Thread ptrainer

I regularly sync 7 SBRs playing flacs. It works great but my units are
all connected via Ethernet. Running only wirelessly you might run into
issues when adding more and more players. I used to have SB1s in the mix
but they caused sync problems so I got rid of them.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-07-01 Thread panos_k75

my 2 cents...I don't own Sonos but my friend does...money wasn't an
issue. The main issue that kept me away from purchasing a Sonos is the
luck of features and especially the ability to create clever mixes (see
MusicIP or Genius). Having said that, there have been times that I
wanted to throw my SC system out of the window and I will admit that
there have been many occasions when I was so close in going to
Sonos...If they supported MusicIP or Genius or something similar I would
be very tempted. You are right it's all about Music in the end, but
sometimes the frustration can take the best out of me.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-07-01 Thread Greg Klanderman
 pippin  pippin.3um8e01246402...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com writes:

 AAC and higher bitrate flac causes trouble with more than two since my
 server has to transcode then and runs into the limit of it's capacity

Is the server transcoding independently for each synced player?
That seems like a bug..

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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-07-01 Thread pippin

gregklanderman;437034 Wrote: 
  pippin  pippin.3um8e01246402082 (AT) no-mx (DOT)
 forums.slimdevices.com writes:
 
  AAC and higher bitrate flac causes trouble with more than two since
 my
  server has to transcode then and runs into the limit of it's
 capacity
 
 Is the server transcoding independently for each synced player?
 That seems like a bug..
 
 greg

Not sure.
But I see it's having trouble streaming 96/24 material to the
transporter and at the same time sending transcoded 48/24 to other
players. May well be a server bandwidth issue, as I said, it's not
really powerful.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread radish

Meh, just fanboys going at each other. Hardly what I'd call interesting.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread TiredLegs

Frankly, I agree with some of their comments regarding problems with the
Duet Controller. I bought one, then quickly sold it to pick up another
SB3.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread socistep

TiredLegs;436761 Wrote: 
 Frankly, I agree with some of their comments regarding problems with the
 Duet Controller. I bought one, then quickly sold it to pick up another
 SB3.

Initially I had problems but its been fine this year, I've not upgraded
to 7.3.3 yet though


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread autopilot

Sonos fanboys are worse than Apple. Best left well alone unless you are
the kind of person who buys kit, then likes a bit of back slapping and
looking down and all the peasants that are not as clever as you. I have
had a quick browse over at the Sonos forums on occasion, any mention of
Squeezebox products and they are like a pack of wolves. The leader of
the pack is Ro53ben, seasoned Squeezebox hater who wrote a review of the
Duet on Cnet before it was even released. Much of it is utter BS too,
one thing i have seen claimed many many times recently, on various
forums, is that the Sonos system is just a 'open' as Squeezecenter
because it supports Upnp. I dont see many plugins or community
contributed development though ;)

My advice would be to just leave them to it.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread Dingostrategy

autopilot;436775 Wrote: 
 And the world could probably do without another Squeezebox Vs Sonos
 thread TBH.

In the immortal words of Seinfeld. -Look to the cookie, Elaine. Look to
the cookie. -

My goodness what a lot of balls. Surely it's about the music. However
you pipe it to your brain has to be a good thing. A few rabblerousers,
both here and there, should not detract from that basic point. 

But I will say one thing - this issue has pricked my ears about the
alleged 'touch' - more toys! Thankyou Sonos fans for raising my
awareness. This is the spirit of brotherhood. Pop over for a Leffe and
my new Tord Gustavsen CDs and we'll remember the whole freakin point of
wireless transport.

And solidarity to Pippin, who copped a bit of .flac in all of this. His
app works great for me and fair play to him for his approach to his
work. 

Now if I can only fix my bloody squeezenetwork connectivity issue, I'll
be chipper again!


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread method man

well ive had both in the last 4 weeks. as richer sounds sold me more
stuff than i needed. and i could easily get away with a duet. the sonos
was a bit better out of the box. but now ive got this working well. its
just as good. looks micer. and i prefer the remote. i could have had
either. money wasnt the issue. if my duet had been a let down. it would
have gone back and i would have got the right sonos kit.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread socistep

apologies all, its my fault for unintentionally opening the wound :-)


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread iPhone

Dingostrategy;436783 Wrote: 
 In the immortal words of Seinfeld. -Look to the cookie, Elaine. Look to
 the cookie. -
 
 My goodness what a lot of balls. Surely it's about the music. However
 you pipe it to your brain has to be a good thing. A few rabblerousers,
 both here and there, should not detract from that basic point. 
 
 But I will say one thing - this issue has pricked my ears about the
 alleged 'touch' - more toys! Thankyou Sonos fans for raising my
 awareness. This is the spirit of brotherhood. Pop over for a Leffe and
 my new Tord Gustavsen CDs newly ripped to my opensource server - and
 we'll remember the whole freakin point of wireless transport.
 
 And solidarity to Pippin, who copped a bit of .flac in all of this. His
 app works great for me and fair play to him for his approach to his
 work. I could not give half a bollock if it does not look as fancy as
 something else - it looks great to me anyway. Even if it looked like
 'Pong' it would still play my tunes and that's what it's about, no?
 
 Now if I can only fix my bloody squeezenetwork connectivity issue, I'll
 be chipper again!

I will say one thing (or maybe a few more). Dingostrategy is right, it
*-IS-* about the music. Both devices stream music and for me, Squeezebox
does a better job of that for a lot less money (read able to buy more
CDs which again its all about the music after all).

Cheers to Pippin for making a killer iPhone app for Squeezebox! And he
is still making it better each day.

Toward the end of the Sonos Fanboy rants, the faithful even admit that
the Sonos is lacking but blame that on the fact that Sonos is staying
true to what it is and not following the market. Our system has just
been upgraded to a track limit of 65K, big deal, how about no track
limit using SC! That limit is basically 5500 CDs which for most is
plenty, but not for everybody. Why have a barrier if one doesn't have
to? Sort of like that 640K memory thing or the year 2000 for PCs.

I still say it comes down to personal choice and how comfortable a
person feels about home networking. And if one doesn't have a home
network, there is something to be said about being able to buy Sonos.
That solution will work with little to no effort and all that is needed
is money.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread socistep

iPhone;436810 Wrote: 
 I will say one thing (or maybe a few more). Dingostrategy is right, it
 *-IS-* about the music. Both devices stream music and for me, Squeezebox
 does a better job of that for a lot less money (read able to buy more
 CDs which again its all about the music after all).
 
 Cheers to Pippin for making a killer iPhone app for Squeezebox! And he
 is still making it better each day.
 
 Toward the end of the Sonos Fanboy rants, the faithful even admit that
 the Sonos is lacking but blame that on the fact that Sonos is staying
 true to what it is and not following the market. Our system has just
 been upgraded to a track limit of 65K, big deal, how about no track
 limit using SC! That limit is basically 5500 CDs which for most is
 plenty, but not for everybody. Why have a barrier if one doesn't have
 to? Sort of like that 640K memory thing or the year 2000 for PCs.
 
 I still say it comes down to personal choice and how comfortable a
 person feels about home networking. And if one doesn't have a home
 network, there is something to be said about being able to buy Sonos.
 That solution will work with little to no effort and all that is needed
 is money.

iPhone - you look to have a fair few zones, whats your experiencing
with syncing been ? At present I only sync 2, the Boom  the Duet and
its flawless but wondered what it was like with more players ?


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread radish

Point of interest on syncing - on saturday we had a party. I had 2 Booms
in different parts of the garden, a Transporter in the living room, and
2 SB3s in other rooms - all synced playing FLAC over wireless for
something like 10 hours straight. My wife and I each had SBCs for
control, as well as occasional iPeng use on my phone. 

It just worked.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread maggior

That's pretty impressive Radish!  You've answered my question of how
syncing players will hold up over a long time period.

Being impressed with the sync functionality in 7.3.3, I did an
experiment using my setup.  I had 2 SBRs, 1 SB3, and 3 Booms synced up
streaming FLAC wirelessly to all players.  That's 5 players going at the
same time.  I have smart fade enabled and was playing a mix.  The fade
transition was seamless.

I ran this for about 15 minutes.  The stream kept playing flawlessly as
I removed each player from the sync group.  Pretty darn cool!

I can't wait to have a party :-).


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread autopilot

Dingostrategy;436783 Wrote: 
 In the immortal words of Seinfeld. -Look to the cookie, Elaine. Look to
 the cookie. -

Could someone explain that to me please!


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread kolding

autopilot;436775 Wrote: 
 Sonos fanboys are worse than Apple, in my experience. Best left well
 alone unless you are the kind of person who buys kit, then likes a bit
 of back slapping and looking down and all the peasants that are not as
 clever as you. I have had a quick browse over at the Sonos forums on
 occasion, any mention of Squeezebox products and they are like a pack of
 wolves. The leader of the pack is Ro53ben, seasoned Squeezebox hater who
 wrote a review of the Duet on Cnet before it was even released. He got
 into a spat on here about it, and since then has been on a bit of a
 crusade ever since. Much of it is utter BS too, one thing i have seen
 claimed many many times recently, on various forums (and even by a Sonos
 forum moderator), is that the Sonos system is just a 'open' as
 Squeezecenter because it supports Upnp. I dont see many plugins or
 community contributed development though ;)
 

I love Ro53ben, or Jaffacake, or whatever his name is.  He's funny.  He
thinks he understands both systems, but doesn't even really understand
the system he advocates so heavily.  He'll complain about something that
Squeezebox does, then tell you it's the greatest thing in the world if
the Sonos does it too.  It's so funny.

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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread socistep

radish;436820 Wrote: 
 Point of interest on syncing - on saturday we had a party. I had 2 Booms
 in different parts of the garden, a Transporter in the living room, and
 2 SB3s in other rooms - all synced playing FLAC over wireless for
 something like 10 hours straight. My wife and I each had SBCs for
 control, as well as occasional iPeng use on my phone. 
 
 It just worked.

impressive. On the Sonos forum I got flack related to SB kit not being
proper zones, not really sure what the difference is but that
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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread Richie

socistep;436816 Wrote: 
 iPhone - you look to have a fair few zones, whats your experiencing
 with syncing been ? At present I only sync 2, the Boom  the Duet and
 its flawless but wondered what it was like with more players ?

I can't speak for iPhone but I regularly sync 3 Booms and 2 Classics
and it also works flawlessly.

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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread kolding

Richie;436851 Wrote: 
 I can't speak for iPhone but I regularly sync 3 Booms and 2 Classics and
 it also works flawlessly.
 
 Richard

I've done 5, including an SB1, which doesn't actually have the ability
to do the advanced syncing of the newer players.  No problems, they were
all in perfect enough sync that I couldn't notice any variation. 
Perhaps the SB1 would drift if I gave it a really long song, but for
most Rock/Pop songs (3-5 minutes), no drift was perceptible.

Eric


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread pippin

socistep;436816 Wrote: 
 iPhone - you look to have a fair few zones, whats your experiencing
 with syncing been ? At present I only sync 2, the Boom  the Duet and
 its flawless but wondered what it was like with more players ?

I've done 6.
Works perfectly with mp3 and low bitrate (44.1/16) flac.
AAC and higher bitrate flac causes trouble with more than two since my
server has to transcode then and runs into the limit of it's capacity
(it's a Via C7, 1GHz, so no really fast machine).
Oh, and I only have three devices wired (plus the server, which may be
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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread iPhone

socistep;436843 Wrote: 
 impressive. On the Sonos forum I got flack related to SB kit not being
 proper zones, not really sure what the difference is but that
 highlights the potential

First off a quick comment on Syncing Squeezeboxes, the issues have been
solved for awhile now and the Sonos Troops are just going to have to
give up on that one. I have had up to 8 Squeezeboxes in perfect Sync.
Like I said, this is a non-issue anymore.

Not sure if I understand it either as I am not a Sonos Fanboy, but one
of the impressions I get is that the definition of a Sonos Zone means it
can stand alone or includes an amp. I have so many definitions for Sonos
Zone because to me it depends on how they are trying to justify that
Sonos is superior in each case. And after all Squeezebox doesn't need
Zones (but you can have them if you want to) which makes it more
versatile to me.

Notice how the Fanboys list number of Zones and not how many or what
type players they have. Are they afraid to list the player types they
have for fear that we will see just how much money they spent?! I could
just as easily go into SC and name my players with Zone Numbers, but
why? Its better to look at iPeng, SC, or the Controller and see
Transporter or Living Room since I can call a Squeezebox Player or
Zone whatever I care to. That way the better half isn't asking, What
is Zone 5 again?.  Before the Flaming starts, I don't know and don't
care if Sonos can name zones or not, just saying the Fanboys like there
Zones. Guess it makes it easier to see at a glance just how many Sonos
units they own as the Zone numbers go up.

Lastly, I could have certainly afforded to buy 10 Sonos Zones but my
choice was Squeezebox for several reasons. The Transporter for one. No
track limitation in SC (I'm sure there is one, but I know its way above
16,000 CDs worth of tracks). And so on.


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*iPhone*   
Media Room:
Transporter, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, Ayre MX-R Mono's,
Vandersteen Quatro, VeraStarr 6.4SE 6-channel Amp, VCC-5 Reference
Center, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco RS 900 CineWide AutoScope 2.35:1  


Living Room:
Duet, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold, Vandersteen Model 3A
Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1  

Kitchen: Squeezebox BOOM
Bedroom: SB3, GFR-700HD, Thiel 2.3, Second Boom
Home Office: SB3, NAD C370, two VSM-1
Home Gym: SB3, Parasound Vamp v.3, Thiel PowerPoint 1.2
House Portable: SB3, Audioengine A5
Thunderbird: Duet, Mac Mini
Expedition: SB3, ToughBook

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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread shake-the-disease

kolding;436855 Wrote: 
 I've done 5, including an SB1, which doesn't actually have the ability
 to do the advanced syncing of the newer players.  No problems, they were
 all in perfect enough sync that I couldn't notice any variation. 
 Perhaps the SB1 would drift if I gave it a really long song, but for
 most Rock/Pop songs (3-5 minutes), no drift was perceptible.
 
 Eric

That's interesting. I have an SB1 and wanted to add a Boom soon and
sync them. I hadn't heard about the SB1 not supporting syncing as well
as later devices.


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Re: [slim] Thread on Sonos board

2009-06-30 Thread Dingostrategy

autopilot;436832 Wrote: 
 Could someone explain that to me please!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnd3cduU_f0

The remark in this context refers to the fact that surely there is room
for both systems (and others). Clearly they both have their fans,
detractors, strengths and weaknesses. Obviously I favour SD/LTs
longevity, but I do not hope for the demise of alternative systems nor a
pox on their users. Both can exist in harmony and in fact there are
certain benefits in having multiple solutions on the market. That's not
too hard for -most -folks to see, whether they use Sonos, SB or a
Walkman(R) the size of a Quran or two cans and a piece of freakin'
string.


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shelf gear. | Bedroom/Terrace - Boom | Headless Asus EEE Box  Linux
Mint | iPod touch/iPeng

Dear Mother, kindly forward underwear, DAC and those Jensen's I bought
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