Re: [slim] Wheres everybody buying music now?
the new one www.mp3skyline.com low prices -- Kainnik Kainnik's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Soulman wrote: Regarding AllofMP3: They sold my CDs at a given time (look for artist Antizycle, don´t know if they still do it) I have NEVER seen ANY money nor has my label. Maybe nobody ever downloaded any... You're not on demonoid either (small consolation) You think thats okay? Well, it's a good way of showing the labels and artists what the customers want. (and are prepared to pay for). Other then that: I still most of my records in a real store. Get home, rip them, scan the cover, file the CD ... sometimes I sel abunch of CDs on ebay. You mean, you rip them and then you sell the original? There's some double standards in this. The same type of double standards we saw when we had to buy expensive CD versions of records we already owned. That kind of thing makes me feel less guilty about having demonoid in my bookmarks ;) Regards, Peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Peter;179385 Wrote: That kind of thing makes me feel less guilty about having demonoid in my bookmarks ;) Regards, Peter There's no reason to feel guilty for having any of the private music trackers in your bookmarks. We've been ripped off for years. I've bought the same music in multiple very overpriced formats. An intelligent mixture of buying music (i.e. independents, small artists, small remastering companies) and downloading perfect lossless rips is not something to be ashamed of... especially considering that much of the music I like is out of print and very hard to get hold of (even second hand). I won't even mention the criminality of DRM (thanks god some European goverments have the guts to challenge it mind you it'a a bit late now... even Steve Jobs has seen the way the tide/dollar is turning). Damn, I mentioned it. No Antizycle stuff has been uploaded to any of the trackers I use either. MC -- ModelCitizen Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too? Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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JJZolx;118798 Wrote:
I wouldn't consider buying a download, even without the DRM issues,
unless it was _significantly_ cheaper than the CD version of the same
album and available in a lossless format.
I totally agree. But the 'broader' marketplace doesn't seem to be
recognizing that there are some of us out here (not enough of us I
guess) who want to be able to buy lossless files. I'm somewhat
dismayed that Pandora has 'partnered' with iTunes - my collection would
be significantly larger if I was able to buy download albums when the
urge struck! Is there an alternative that I'm overlooking?
So I've been looking at emusic.com, but I can't seem to find a link to
browse/search their catalog. I hate it when they try to sell you
something without disclosing what it is they actually have to sell!
('free trial' notwithstanding!) Can anybody who is using emusic
enlighten me?
In the meantime, I guess I'm going to have to continue to buy actual
CDs.
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Re: [slim] Wheres everybody buying music now?
nicketynick;179221 Wrote:
So I've been looking at emusic.com, but I can't seem to find a link to
browse/search their catalog. I hate it when they try to sell you
something without disclosing what it is they actually have to sell!
('free trial' notwithstanding!) Can anybody who is using emusic
enlighten me?
In the meantime, I guess I'm going to have to continue to buy actual
CDs.
I buy from emusic, and still buy lots of CD's.
yes it is annoying to not be able to browse emusic without an account.
There is a trick: if you enter at an album or artist page, it will let
you browse. You just have to get past the front door.
http://www.emusic.com/album/10775/10775573.html will get you in so
you can browse.
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Re: [slim] Wheres everybody buying music now?
nicketynick has stated the core issue. people want to buy lossless files and they don't want to pay the same amount as a physical cd because it's obviously highway robbery. therefore, currently allofmp3 is the best alternative. i don't want to go to the cd store anymore (even though I once loved the notion-it's now completely obsolete in the digital age) and I'm not buying overpriced compressed files from itunes,etc. whatever you think of allofmp3, the bottom line is that they are providing exactly what people want-choice- at a reasonable price. -- exile exile's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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nicketynick;179221 Wrote: I can't seem to find a link to browse/search their catalog. To go straight to search just enter www.emusic.com/about -- fathom39 fathom39's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Thanks, my friend! Took me a few minutes to find a link that made the search/browse toolbar come up, but I found it - I knew somebody here would be able to help out. And it looks like they have lots of stuff that I'm looking for, so I think I'll go ahead and try it out. Now if only they had flac available. Sooner or later (hopefully sooner) somebody outside of Russia is going to make a large library of flac/lossless downloads available for sale. In the meantime, I'm not sure I want to line the pockets of the Russian mafia. -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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nicketynick;179242 Wrote: Sooner or later (hopefully sooner) somebody outside of Russia is going to make a large library of flac/lossless downloads available for sale. In the meantime, I'm not sure I want to line the pockets of the Russian mafia. Well, EMI is supposedly talking to Emusic and others about releasing their whole catalog online. If they stole the get it encoded at whatever you want feature of allofmp3, they could make a killing. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Well, I hope you're right, and EMI (and other labels will follow) agrees there is money to be made. It would be a good thing! (and would involve a different sort of 'killing' than the Russian mafia might partake in :-P ) -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Regarding AllofMP3: They sold my CDs at a given time (look for artist Antizycle, don´t know if they still do it) I have NEVER seen ANY money nor has my label. You think thats okay? Other then that: I still most of my records in a real store. Get home, rip them, scan the cover, file the CD ... sometimes I sel abunch of CDs on ebay. -- Soulman Soulman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6283 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I've bought a bunch from a local pawn shop. This brings up an ethical point. Since the artist receives no $$ from the sale is this really kosher? What if I rip the disc and then sell it back to the pawn shop? BD -- bdelp bdelp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1936 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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We've been here a few times before ... personally I think that if you sell a CD (on eBay or anywhere else) you've just lost the right to keep the ripped copies. Consider the CD as a licence to use. OK, the law may not have caught up with fair use yet but if and when it ever does, it will almost certainly say that you have a right to make copies of a CD you *own* to play in various devices. Once you've sold it you don't own it any more. YMMV Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Yes, mightthats probalby true. I personaly do not sell CDs I still listen to. But having a collection of way ofer 3000 CDs, I do sell dublicates or stuff I never listen to... I admitt, that I do NOT follow up these sold CDs in my DB always and delete them. So currently CDs are piling up EVERYWHERE in my house. Boy. -- Soulman Soulman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6283 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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ceejay;179281 Wrote: We've been here a few times before ... personally I think that if you sell a CD (on eBay or anywhere else) you've just lost the right to keep the ripped copies. Consider the CD as a licence to use. OK, the law may not have caught up with fair use yet but if and when it ever does, it will almost certainly say that you have a right to make copies of a CD you *own* to play in various devices. Once you've sold it you don't own it any more. YMMV Ceejay I think you summed it up quite well. -- jeffmeh jeffmeh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3986 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Still buying CDs, often used. It gives me uncompressed, DRM-free music, is entirely legal, and provides me with a reasonably robust physical backup (the pressed CD) that I store in minimal space in binders (tossing the jewel case). Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I've been buying my CDs online from deepdiscountcd.com. Their prices are generally pretty good, and free shipping is always available in the U.S. via USPS. They pack the CDs well, and I haven't had a damaged jewel case so far. Selection is not the best, but not bad either. On a couple of occasions I have canceled orders that did not ship after a month from the order date. But my last two orders with them have shipped promptly. Another outfit I've bought from is djangos.com. Their prices are just a little bit higher than deepdiscountcd.com, but their selection is better. Once in a while they have a free shipping promotion, but most of the time there's a shipping charge. I have only ordered from them once when they had the free shipping promotion. Shipping was via USPS. Unfortunately, the CD was not packed well and it arrived with a big crack in the case. This was disappointing. Nowadays I listen a lot to some really good jazz stations on internet radio. I have a laptop on a table next to my listening chair where I control my squeezebox via the web interface. If I hear something I like enough to buy it, I open up a new tab in Firefox and google the artist and song to find out what album it's from. Then I check deepdiscountcd.com to see if they have the album. If so, I order it. This is neat, because I don't even have to get up from my listening chair. I feel like George Jetson or something :-). -- andy_c andy_c's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3128 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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I've recently been buying CD's from cdbaby.com. In fact I just received a box full today. I've found some really excellent music there. It's all independent so you'll never hear any of it on the radio but that has no bearing on the quality. Best of all the artists actually get paid, I think cdbaby keeps $4 and gives the rest to the artist. The artist sets the price. Heck, they even tell the artists who bought their CDs and I often get a thank you email from them, which is a nice touch. For commercial stuff I check secondspin.com for used discs, and also Amazon.com where I sometimes buy new and sometimes used. I won't buy digital music online unless it's equal or better quality than a CD, costs less than a CD to account for the reduced manufacturing costs, and can be played on my SB and other devices with a minimum of fuss. In other words, I don't buy digital music online. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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Mainly CD's. The problem with CD's is that most of them only have a few good tracks on them. You're lucky if half of the tracks are worthwhile. Bought a couple of albums and a couple of tracks on iTunes music store. Never again. Beatport is interesting if you like electronic music and you're looking, for example, for that hard to find remix. There's no DRM and you have the option between MP3 320 kbps (IIRC) and WAV. But the WAV files are quite expensive. -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25158 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 21:41:18 -0700 deserttaxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, could you tell me your favorite spot to buy some tunes? Mostly I buy CDs from local and online stores, but I've bought about a dozen albums from http://www.magnatune.com/. I like their policies (half the purchase price goes to the artist, buyer can set purchase price in a range from $5 to $18, wide choice of both lossless and lossy music formats, no DRM) and their music collection is growing. -- John Rakestraw ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
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On 7/1/06, deserttaxguy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I dont like the rights management issues with the common commercial digital vendors and was wondering what the community suggests as thefavorite sites. I just looked around one which I didnt like too much,but it did have total rights to the buyer of the tracks for all theindependent or other artist looking to market on the internet. So, could you tell me your favorite spot to buy some tunes?P.S. just to avoid hassle I stll just buy CDs on line and have themmailed to my PO box. I dont deal with the whole I-tunes, Windows mediathing.. At least I get total control of the digits. http://www.emusic.com, and CDs -- in that order.-- I spent all me tin with the ladies drinking gin,So across the Western ocean I must wander -- traditional ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
