Re: [slim] Can Random Mix Be Customized ?
Good suggestions garym. And I should add that even though I advocate using the genre tag this way, in practice I haven't gotten around to changing those tags for most of my own collection. Instead, every now and then I just look ahead on the playlist that Random Mix generates and delete the tracks that I don't want in there. I use this more general (and ad hoc) solution of deleting on the fly for other mixer software such as MusicIP. Even though I love its mixes, even MusicIP seems to throw in some clunkers in every mix. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92485 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can Random Mix Be Customized ?
rayman1701;678470 Wrote: > That's what works for me, and I might be weird but I never claimed not > to be :) It doesn't strike me as weird at all. Just one or two steps more obsessive -- or less lazy -- about it than I am. I recall seeing several requests for a plugin that will keep tracks like Sgt. Pepper/With a Little Help together in random mixes. Sometimes you just have to go to the source. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92485 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help, can't find My Music!
Can you get the LMS web interface when you point your browser to http://:9000/? Of course, substitute your server's real IP address in place of . -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92507 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help, can't find My Music!
Seems strange. Try changing the location where you point LMS to your music library. Change it to something wrong. Then rescan, change it back to the correct location, and rescan again. If that doesn't work, try deleting your cache file. Is the music on an external drive? What OS? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92507 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help, can't find My Music!
I mean the LMS SQL database cache file. On Windows I believe there is an option in the system tray tool (or whatever it's called) to clear the cache. If that doesn't work, you can find the location of the cache file by going to Settings > Information in the LMS web interface. Then stop LMS and go to that folder and delete the cache files. I can't tell you the filenames because I don't have LMS in front of me at the moment. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92507 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help, can't find My Music!
This may be a red herring, but if the music is on an internal hard drive, why have you specified \\SERVER1\Users\Mikael.B\Mina dokument\My Music as the location of the music library? What happens if you use the drive letter + pathname? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92507 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help, can't find My Music!
Last stab: permissions? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92507 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Connect Squeezebox receiver ?
I may be misunderstanding what you are trying to do. But for switching between your local LMS and mysqueezebox.com, even though you can do it via Net::UDAP (as you've done), it would seem to me to be a lot easier to do it via the web interfaces for LMS and mysqueezebox.com. On LMS, from the Home menu (left pane) pick the last option. I forget what it's called, maybe "Extras". Then go to Music Source and pick mysqueezebox.com. To switch the other way, go to mysqueezebox.com, disconnect the player from mysqueezebox.com, and it should revert to LMS, or at least be available to LMS. The Squeezebox controller app won't find the music on your iPhone because it's not on your network to be served by LMS. For that you may as well use the standard music player built in to the iPhone. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Connect Squeezebox receiver ?
RyvBoy;680181 Wrote: > thanks aubuti, yes it was to listen the music wireless through a > stereo. > > I could do that, but the LMS has to stay up, and so, with the iphone > app i can control the songs on the server. There is also the option of getting a newer stereo or amplifier that supports Apple's AirPlay, or perhaps an Airport Express (sorry, I don't know Apple's AirProducts that well). That would send the music on your iPhone wirelessly to the stereo. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Connect Squeezebox receiver ?
pippin;680165 Wrote: > Yes, but I believe you have to do it with Net::UDAP once. > > After that, you can do it with the Web UI or iPeng, but not with the > Logitech iPhone App. > The Web UI doesn't work on iPhone, at least not in a usable way. Interesting, I didn't know you had to do it with Net::UDAP the first time. Re the web ui on iPhone, I was assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that RyvBoy was using Net::UDAP at a computer, and that the computer would run the web ui. Even for those very comfortable on the command line, that seems a much easier way to change LMS/mysb than Net::UDAP. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Connect Squeezebox receiver ?
RyvBoy;680170 Wrote: > that's disappointing... there's no way to do that? that's all i've > worked for :D > > listen some music without keeping the lms (so the pc) opened > > ps. sorry but if you can't play something in remote what has been > mysqueezebox created for? If you want to play the music that's on your iPhone, why not just play it on your iPhone? Or if you want it played through your stereo, buy a cheap cable (or a more expensive dock) and connect the iPhone directly to your stereo, leaving the SB Receiver out of the equation. mysqueezebox.com was created for playing internet radio and online services such as Pandora, Napster, Deezer, Spotify, Rhapsody, last.fm, MOG, etc without having the pc on. There is also a service named MP3Tunes that lets you upload your music to their servers, and can then stream it to your Squeezebox via mysqueezebox.com. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92581 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Sudden white noise
Does the white noise only come from the system connected to the Touch, or are the other SBs affected as well. Assuming it's just the Touch, I suggest doing a factory reset -- press the small button on back of the Touch and hold it for 10-15 seconds, until the screen says that it is doing a factory reset. If that doesn't fix it, can you detect any pattern at all in the tracks that are playing when it happens? For example, your tracks, internet radio, hi-res tracks, etc. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92676 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP documentation?
Those "obviously obsolete" wiki articles still work for me when setting up MusicIP headless with LMS. A few months ago I changed the OS on my server and had to re-install everything, and this wiki article contains everything I needed to know: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Integrating_MusicIP_with_SqueezeCenter. Your needs may vary. Other than that there are a lot of threads in the forums, including links to download the MusicIP software. Searching on MusicIP and/or genpuid is one way to go. Granted, that will turn up a lot of threads that don't address the nuts and bolts, but there's a ton of information if you look. Unfortunately, that is the way things are with abandoned software projects. Or worse, situations like this in which a company has bought the intellectual property behind the software, but doesn't maintain it. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92740 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices
CharlieG;680994 Wrote: > I give up. What are you tying to say? Amen Out Loud? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92232 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP documentation?
Fair points about the references to musicip.com and such. I agree about the need for some background research, and would add that a lot of patience is required. That's patience both for getting things setup, and for the analysis of your tracks, which can take a verrry long time. I really enjoy MusicIP mixes and have set it up a couple different times, but the installation and music analysis are still kind of black arts to me. Spicefly did help, although it's still not entirely clear to me how it helped. Anyway, good luck with it -- I think it's worth the effort. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92740 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MusicIP documentation?
I (and many others here) think it works great. And one of the very nice touches is that you can tailor how different or similar the tracks MusicIP playlist are compared to the "seed" track(s) that you use to generate the list. There are two parameters you set, Mix Style and Mix Variety. You can also set whether or not the mix should mix genres. So if you don't like the mixes you get, experiment with those settings. I typically like MusicIP mixes better than Last.fm or Apple "Genius" mixes, and find them comparable to some of the more interesting Pandora stations I have cultivated. The MusicIP playlists seem to hang together better musically, and fewer completely atrocious tracks sneak in simply because I don't have many in my library. (Then again, MusicIP isn't as good at music discovery because it is limited to one's own library.) It's a real shame that there isn't a MusicIP successor yet for the SB world. People say good things about Mood Agent, but there's no SB interface yet (I'm not sure if the Mood Agent people have released an API). -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92740 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Just 5 years and a bit less than 2 month Logitech has acquired Slim Devices
CharlieG;681078 Wrote: > Funny, when I want to say "me too" I generally just say "me too" :-) Or if one has to bring it into the txt msg realm, a simple "me2" -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92232 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pioneer Announces New Networked Audio Players
Wombat;681749 Wrote: > Pioneer states it is the chipsets design that can´t do it because of its > Airplay compatibility. Does anyone know if this is a general issue with Airplay-based players? Because there certainly seems to be a lot action for new equipment using Airplay (and to a lesser extent, DLNA). -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92796 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Pioneer Announces New Networked Audio Players
RGibran;681854 Wrote: > No ALAC or AIFF support which is a rather large drawback for a fair % of > their intended market. 'Pioneer's spec sheet' (http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/ephox/StaticFiles/PUSA/Files/N-50%20Single%20Sheet.pdf) contradicts itself on this. In the "Airplay" section it says that it plays Apple Lossless, but then it's not listed at all in the "Audio Formats Supported" section. Go figure. No mention of AIFF at all. Then in the extensive section on "Supported Apple Devices", just a bunch of iPod and iPhone models, none of which are very likely to be carrying AIFF or ALAC. The obvious omission is Apple TV, and slightly less obvious is Apple Time Capsule. I expect they are compatible and they just overlooked it. But doesn't make it easy for an informed potential buyer. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92796 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No standby because of permanent WOL?
The SBs do not send out WOL packets constantly. This is easily verified with a network monitoring tool such as Wireshark. Is it possible that your server is mistakenly set up to wake up on _any_ network traffic, not only WOL packets? Many computers do have both options. The Touch and Radio are more self-contained than older SBs and don't depend on the server as much. But they do generate some network traffic, most notably looking for a server when they can't find one (which is why switching to mysqueezebox.com works). Finally, you shouldn't need to switch to mysqueezebox.com when shutting down the boxes, but it isn't really inconvenient. In fact, with the ServerPowerControl plugin the server will do it for you, without you lifting a finger. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92843 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] please make volume for each favorite adjustable
It is filed as 'Bug 2431' (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2431). -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92896 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Database in 7.7.1 - SQLite?
They changed back to SQLite with 7.6.0, it's still SQLite in 7.7.1. I'm not aware of any published documentation on the database schema etc. You may want to try browsing/searching/asking in the Developers forum, as well as poking around in the db tables and Perl code. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92911 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't find Plug-In on the SB Touch Menu
How about Settings > Plugins on the LMS web ui? On the line for Power Save, is there a link for "Settings"? Alternatively, there may be something under Settings > Advanced > Power Save. Note that on the web ui Advanced tab there is a drop-down menu for different advanced settings. Some people see the default starting point (I think it's Formatting) and just move on without realizing it's a drop-down menu. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92926 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 7.7.1 finally running except....................
Impossible to say without more information, as lots of us have no problem with 7.7.1 and multiple SBs. Info such as type of server hardware, network details, type of files being served, etc. would be necessary even to begin to answer your question. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92949 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] anything new from CES
What country are you in? The Radio is certainly still on their US site, as well as the European sites that I checked. There's nothing new for SBs at CES this year. They do have some Bluetooth-based music players for smartphones and tablets, which they already announced in late 2011 (for example, http://www.logitech.com/en-us/tablet-accessories/for-ipad/devices/8481). -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92973 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] anything new from CES
I would be very surprised if Logitech ever comes out with any new SB models. They may eventually catch on to the Airplay trend, or whatever the successor to Airplay will be. Maybe they'll sell off the line, or maybe they'll just let it die. That said, if you mostly use SBs for playing your own library and/or internet radio, what would you lose if SBs were completely abandoned tomorrow? What new developments do you need to "invest further"? The story is a bit different for those who depend on mysqueezebox.com, either as an alternative to running a local LMS or as the background intermediary that makes subscription services like Rhapsody work. In those cases the usefulness of SBs would be diminished or even obliterated if SBs were orphaned. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92973 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wake on Lan problem SB classic and Asus RT-N56U Router
Just to rule out the obvious, you are still using a wired (ethernet) connection between the server and the new router, right? The router manual makes no mention of WOL, but I agree it sounds as if it is failing to relay the WOL packet to the server. Have you tried doing WOL using one of the many utilities available? I expect it won't work either, but it's worth checking just to rule out the possibility that there's some new problem with the SB that happens to coincide with the new router's arrival. If that doesn't work, I'd suggest Asus forums and/or tech support. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92906 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] anything new from CES
erland;683698 Wrote: > Considering that they have managed to get rid of most people that had > knowledge in the product I'm extremely skeptical if anyone would be > willing to acquire the product line, feels like they either have to > start investing in it themselves or continue to let it die slowly. I think there are parts of the product line that a buyer might find valuable, possibly to build upon further or merge with some other product. Or to sit on it and eliminate a competitor. erland;683698 Wrote: > Is there anything else out there that have a brighter future except for > AirPlay devices and Sonos ? If not, what's the alternative ? > > There are some new hardware announced now and then from other vendors, > but there are a lot of Squeezebox users and I believe most are quite > happy with the devices, so except for Airplay devices and Sonos I don't > really see any other strong competitor. Well if you choose not to consider Airplay and Sonos -- that is the _strongest_ competitors -- then yes, it is hard to see any strong competitors. I think AirPlay has the big momentum at this point. Juggler is right that AirPlay isn't the same thing as SB, but for a lot of people that doesn't matter. Either they don't care about multi-room, or they have their server in their hand in the form of an iPhone, iPad, or iPod. Current SB owners are unlikely to give up what they have for that, but for new customers it's where the market is clearly going. Look at all the AirPlay-enabled audio components that have come out in the past year. erland;683698 Wrote: > It would probably be possible to develop a third party Rhapsody plugin > if necessary, it's just that it doesn't make much sense to do it as > long as Logitech keeps providing it. However, if Logitech would > shutdown mysqueezebox.com, it wouldn't surprise me if some third party > plugins for SBS/LMS would released for the most important services > which is provided through mysqueezebox.com. I hope that's true. For that to work I would expect that one also needs to work out the agreements with Rhapsody, Pandora, etc. It requires more than an API and some coding. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92973 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wake on Lan problem SB classic and Asus RT-N56U Router
It would help to know what OS you are using. Since most people who don't mention OS are using Windows, I'll assume that's what you have and suggest "WOL", which is freeware available from http://www.simply-ware.com/ -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92906 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Synching Volume
The standard LMS sync works exactly as you describe. The SyncOptions plugin allows for different "base" volume levels from each player -- I'm not 100% sure but I believe the levels are inherited from whatever the volume setting is at time of sync'ing. After that, volume changes are done proportionately, as described by this bit from the SyncOptions settings page. -RELATIVE VOLUME SYNCHRONIZATION Whether volume changes in one synced player should cause proportionate changes in the other players with which it is synced. For instance, if you have Squeezebox A at volume 50, Squeezebox B at volume 60 and you increase the volume on Squeezebox A to 75, then Squeezebox B would increase its volume to 90.- iPeng also allows for different volume levels on different players, and then sync'ing volume changes. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93028 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wake on Lan problem SB classic and Asus RT-N56U Router
vett93;684245 Wrote: > However, the Softsqueeze (3.9b2) on my laptop cannot wake up the PC. I > have tried several WOL tools and they couldn't wake up the PC either. > > Can someone please comment why SB Classic and Transporter can wake up > my PC and Softsqueeze cannot? I would like to remote wake up my PC for > other purposes too. (e.g., serving as a photo sharing server via > CIFS/SMB for my Wetern Digital streaming media player, etc.) I would not be surprised if SoftSqueeze is not programmed to send the WOL packet. It was originally written by a user more or less as a try-before-you-buy demo, and has since been picked up as a SB community-supported project. Which is a long way of saying that features such as WOL may not have been included, or high on the list. The inability of standard WOL utilities to wake the pc is more puzzling. Can you try those utilities on a different pc to see if there may be something about your laptop that is preventing the WOL packet from going out? Or if you have a smartphone you may be able to try a WOL app on that. If you can't get another computer or smartphone to test it then you could look at the network traffic with a tool like WireShark to see if the laptop is sending the WOL packet, but that can get pretty tedious. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92906 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Wake on Lan problem SB classic and Asus RT-N56U Router
The behavior you're getting puzzles me. I can only venture a wild guess and say try turning off the firewall on your laptop and see what happens. Normally I wouldn't think a firewall would block sending a WOL packet, but I don't have any better ideas at this point. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92906 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeplay interface on Desktop
You'll note that it has been almost 4 years since the wiki page has been updated. There have been a lot of changes to the firmware/software since then. The current SqueezePlay interface looks just like a SB Radio, SB Touch, or SB Controller. The big question is, despite the outdated wiki, can you find your way around the SqueezePlay menus? If so, go with that. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93129 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Too many artists...
On the LMS web interface, go to Settings > My Music and select "Group compilation albums together". There's a picture in post #2 of this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92049 EDIT: garym beat me again -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93147 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Should I buy a Transporter?
corycwagner;685755 Wrote: > I thought about a Touch, but honestly, I really like the display on the > "Classic" and Transporter. I can read the display from across the room > and when it is off, it displays the time and weather. > > I've heard that the touch dispaly is problematic from a distance and > the SuperDateTime does not work very well. > > Have I heard wrong? SuperDateTime works fine with the Touch as long as you use it with Custom Clock. Whether you can read the Touch from across the room depends on (a) how good your eyes are, and (b) how big your room is. I find that reading the Touch is fine up to about 10 feet/3 meters, whereas the SB3/Classic is good up to around 15 feet/5m. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93185 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No more access to folders
Browsing music folders works perfectly for me with LMS 7.7.1. Have you specified the folder(s) for your music library under Settings > Basic Info? -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] URL to older Squeezeserver DEB packages
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Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
amrace;686074 Wrote: > Do you think Logitech will keep both Squeezebox and Aiplay wifi > streaming systems in its future product lineup? And don't forget the Bluetooth-based wireless speakers that Logitech introduced in late 2011. Those devices are actually on shelves now, unlike this AirPlay device which the audio blogosphere claimed -- back in October 2011 -- was going to be announced by Logitech "in a few weeks." I personally don't see Logitech sticking with three different wireless systems for very long, and think we won't see a new SB model. Even though SBs have features that clearly differentiate them from Bluetooth and AirPlay, the masses don't care about those features, and Logitech (with the notable exception of the SB devs, of course) cares about what the masses care about. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Block settings to kids - Parental control
I don't think KidsPlay will help. KidsPlay provides a means for reprogramming the six preset buttons, but I'm fairly certain there isn't anything for preventing changing the other settings that the Radio has on its menus. I think the only parental control available is the old fashioned POS (parent over shoulder) variety. It may be possible to block some internet traffic using conventional blocking controls at the router or firewall. I also think it's interesting how expectations differ. I would never consider parental controls to be a "basic requirement" for a network music player, but obviously some do. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93238 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New versions of Squeezecenter don't like large collections-?
pomatomus;686227 Wrote: > I hadn't appreciated that there might be substantial scanning speedups > to be had. With the change from MySQL to SQLite and substantial rewriting of the code, yes, there may be speedups to be had. For your case the big question is how well those changes scale. During testing of the early SQLite versions (7.6.0) the results for large collections seemed pretty scattered. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93019 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Block settings to kids - Parental control
Just my two cents worth... If you've tried "you break it you fix it" ten times already and they still don't get the message then it seems to me that they are not yet capable of dealing with something like an SB Radio (or they have a peculiar sense of "fun"). Try replacing it with a standard AM/FM radio until they are ready for an SB. On your others: - for blocking access to certain tracks in your own music library, see Erland's Multi-Library plugin - for limiting certain radio stations or setting time ranges, you may be able to do something with your router. It all depends on your router model, or more precisely, the firmware installed. Some have facilities for setting time ranges and restricting addresses. For example, the Tomato firmware on my Linksys WRT54GL router can set restrictions for specific devices on the network based on time, web site, etc. See http://r3dux.org/2009/12/how-to-block-access-to-specific-websites-from-your-router-using-tomato-firmware/ -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93238 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't get Title Format to show "filename.ext"
I don't recall the behavior on previous versions (because I display tag contents instead of the filename), but on 7.7.1 if I specify File.Ext I get both the filename and the extension. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can't get Title Format to show "filename.ext"
Okay, I didn't know that. For my test I just used the FILE.EXT that was already there in the options. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93322 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
TheLastMan;688039 Wrote: > High fidelity? Most don't need or care for it. And among those who do need or care for it, iTunes (with WAV, AIFF, or Apple Lossless) + Airplay-equipped name brand consumer-grade receiver (Marantz, Denon, Yamaha, Harmon Kardon, etc) + decent speakers is "good enough" for most. iPhone/iTouch optional. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
erland;688275 Wrote: > So if I would mention companies that have the biggest potential to take > over the market, Apple would be pretty high on that list, they would be > in the top. Reason being that they have it all: > - They have the backend music store > - They are focused at usability and ease to use > - They are able to produce high quality hardware in high quantities > - They are inventive I'm no Apple fan, but I think these are all true, and I'll add another reason (which, no doubt, is a by-product of the 4 reasons Erland mentions): - They have big time buy-in from other hardware makers, whether it's AirPlay receivers and speakers or simple docks. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
bobm;688274 Wrote: > Can you purchase apple lossless from itunes now? I don't think the iTunes store sells any lossless files. But obviously you can rip CDs to Apple Lossless, and I've noticed that many artists who sell downloads choose Apple Lossless as their only lossless option. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Controlling AV Receiver through IP commands
I'm not sure about the former, but you can certainly do the latter with the SqueezeIR app. Search for it in the 3rd Party Software forum. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93451 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How many people can listen to a radio station's stream?
buffettck;689571 Wrote: > The variable regarding the total number of listeners being how big of a > data pipe the station is willing to pay for... In addition to the number of listeners it's also the number of bits being sent to each listener. For example, my local NPR station streams at 32kbps and 64kbps, and that's fine for news and talk. That's also why RP appears to have a tighter limit on there 192kbps stream (which is sometimes maxed out) than they do on their 128kbps stream, which always seems to be available. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93518 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
amrace;685885 Wrote: > I would like another Boom type device to add to my existing system of 2 > Classics and Boom. I was surprised to see the Boom listed in a recent email from Amazon about network music players. And "only" US$500 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DJ64D4/ref=pe_77200_22618660_pe_epc_dt3 -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech Airplay Speaker
DITC101;690206 Wrote: > I am always wondering why Logitech doesn't offer a speaker only product > like the Sonos Play 3/5. > Currently I am looking for something small for my bedroom. The Boom is > EOL, the Radio is too small and the display isn't really readable from > 3m away. For a table-top product like that I personally find the lack of front controls (such as on the Sonos 3 and 5) a drawback. Having to grab a remote to control something that is often an arm's length away is a pain. I don't feel that way about my SB2s and SB3, since they're hooked up to proper stereo systems. As for readable from 3m away, it obviously depends what you're displaying. For artist and track info it's a problem even at 1m. For time, no problem at all at 3m. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93207 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Main diffs between pre-Logitech and post-Logitech hardware?
tbessie;691523 Wrote: > Does anyone know of a quick summary of the main differences between the > pre-Logitech acquisition and post-acquisition hardware? i.e. the > SB3/Receiver/Boom/Controller vs the SB Radio and Touch? I think Erland summarized it well, but if you want to compare pre/post Logitech acquisition you should also know that the dividing line is rather fuzzy. The SB3 and Transporter were the last two products sold by Slim Devices, and the Duet was the first in the SB line by Logitech. I understand that work on the Duet, and possibly the Boom, was underway before the acquisition, but how much (25%? 50%? 85%?) isn't widely known. Functionally/architecturally speaking, the main division is SqueezeOS (Controller, Radio, Touch) vs i3pk (SB2/SB3, Transporter, Duet Receiver) and earlier. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93681 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Scanning - Metadata Changes
pjs;692745 Wrote: > OK, thanks to everyone for the really instructive responses. I now > understand why I wasn't seeing the song artist being updated. It was > the ol' Artist vs Album Artist issue. I had changed the Artist in the > metadata, but I guess the "key" that's used when you browse "music by > artist" is the Album Artist, not the Artist. > > > > I know this is pretty anal, and I apologize, but I'm sure many of you > must be as anal as me with tagging your music. :-) The real question is, should anal-retentive be hyphenated or not? Here is how I would tag the two examples you give. -*1) Album: No Alternative*- 01. Superdeformed (Artist = Matthew Sweet, Album Artist = [empty], compilation=1) 02. For All to See (Artist = Buffalo Tom, Album Artist = [empty], compilation=1) ... 19. Verse Chorus Verse (Artist = Nirvana, Album Artist = [empty], compilation=1) If you do it this way, you won't see a million "Various Artists" under V. I only ever use ALBUMARTIST on compilations if (a) it's an album with one performer who is on every (or almost every) track and a lot of guest artists, such as an album of duets, or (b) a tribute album, with a lot of different artists playing songs of a particular composer or group. Otherwise I think the concept of albumartist doesn't make a whole lot of sense for multi-artist compilations. -*2) If we have an artist who has recorded albums under different names (I think I'd prefer to see all this under Aphex Twin, the Artist, since this makes navigation with the Squeezebox remote much easier.):*- Surfing On Sine Waves (Artist = Polygon Window, Album Artist = Aphex Twin) Analogue Bubblebath 3 (Artist = AFX, Album Artist = Aphex Twin) Joyrex J9ii (Artist = Caustic Window, Album Artist = Aphex Twin) Rushup Edge (Artist = The Tuss, Album Artist = Aphex Twin) Richard D. James Album (Artist = Aphex Twin, Album Artist = Aphex Twin) Yes, that's right, exactly the opposite of what you have now (except maybe the 5th one). LMS will group all of them together under the ALBUMARTIST Aphex Twin when you are browsing, but when something is playing it will display the ARTIST tag in Now Playing, so you see which incarnation of RDJ you're listening to. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93812 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Touch replacement
vinhattieu;694666 Wrote: > My friend is thinking of buying a Touch, but he still hesitates because > it has been several years since Touch was released. Several years?! Try a little less than two (released April 2010, see http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_comparison). I have strong doubts that there will be a Touch 2, so if your friend wants the latest SB, get a Touch now. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94020 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox 2 Support with Latest Logitec Server?
bpa;695001 Wrote: > To be sure on the device itself - go into the Settings/Information/ > Information and then scroll down to "Model" You can also look at the sticker on the bottom. If it says "Squeezebox" then it's an SB1, if it says "Squeezebox2" then it's an SB2. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94000 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Looking for a Squeezebox logo / graphic
SadGamerGeek;695269 Wrote: > I'm rather stumped when it comes to my Squeezebox though. I'm pretty > sure there was a stylized font used for the Squeezebox name in the old > Slim Devices days, but I can't see it anywhere on the Logitech website, > and I'm not having much luck with a Google image search. Use the amazing Way Back Machine from www.archive.org. For example, you could do a screen clip from this: http://web.archive.org/web/20051210015952/http://slimdevices.com/ -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94083 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Looking for a Squeezebox logo / graphic
jimzak;695298 Wrote: > Which version of Squeezebox is that a picture of? SB3 (before the SlimDevices logo was replaced by a Logitech logo and the device rebranded as "Classic") -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94083 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows Users: Run a full library scan following time changes
jimzak;695351 Wrote: > This thread didn't exist this AM when I first experienced the problem. Sure it did, although it's also natural that a 4 year-old thread wouldn't be the first thing (or 2nd, or 3rd...) on most people's mind this morning. Thanks to Jim for bumping it. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44626 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] new server problem
Also make sure that your scan completed successfully. If you want to go back to 6.2, all previously released versions of SBS/LMS are available from downloads.slimdevices.com -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94088 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Looking for a Squeezebox logo / graphic
Also, smaller images of those and the rest (Controller, Touch, Radio) are in the wiki: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_comparison -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94083 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Touch replacement
andynormancx;695915 Wrote: > Really ? I don't remember any new SB hardware announcement getting > leaked on the forum, ever. True, the Touch wasn't originally leaked here, but certainly these forums helped spread the leak. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94020 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Remote control for Touch turns on Transporter and computer
piperpilot12w;696842 Wrote: > It appears the disabled remote settings on the Transporter only take > effect when LMS is active. Before LMS is started, Transporter registers > signals from the remote. Once LMS is active, the remote doesn't have any > effect. That makes sense, because disabling the remote is an LMS setting. In other words, the Transporter's IR receiver is always active. But LMS only does anything with the commands received by the IR remote if the remote is enabled. Like all of the SBs prior to the Touch or Radio, the Transporter is a slim client, and by itself doesn't know what to do with commands received via the IR remote. It just passes it to the server, which then tells it what to do -- even something as simple as volume up/down. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94012 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Music reporting
last.fm is good for reporting statistics, albeit with a lag sometimes. I've never used TrackStat, but that should work fine as well. If you ever want to work with the raw data, then the PlayLog plugin will give you what you need. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94354 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Ran out of decoder data memory
slimfast;699271 Wrote: > Admittedly I'm not running the latest f/w as I'm on an old version of > Squeezebox Server (version 7.5.1) due to limitations of what my QNAP > NAS will support (the SSODS package). Perhaps the out-of-date server and/or firmware are the issue: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94194 -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86699 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New forum
garym;699344 Wrote: > smart phone interface looks nice. I wonder if there is a way on the > smart phone interface to select "new posts" and see a list similar to > that available on the full web interface? Choosing the icon in the upper right (just to the left of the search magnifying glass), and then "What's new?" seems to do the trick. -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94453 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] make suggestions about the new forum appearance
The first thing I would say is that the icons for "Contains unread posts" and "Contains no unread posts" are too similar, whether they're "hot" or not. And too much white space on the screen is the second thing I would say. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94513 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?
amey01 wrote: > Checksum is your friend...it is very simple to test a download with > one of your own CDs, ripped as securely as you please. Checksum both > files and see if there are any differences. True, but what's the point? I suspect few people are interested in buying FLAC downloads (or even getting free FLAC downloads) of tracks when they already have a copy of the track that they know to be accurately ripped. In the more common case of downloading tracks that you don't already have, you need something like AccurateRip or another good reason to trust the seller. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Where are your CDs?
garym wrote: > if you have the complete downloaded FLAC album, you can use Foobar2000 > to check the accuraterip match after the fact. May require a component, > I can't recall if I had to install something. Right click on files, > select, utilities, then "verify album with accuraterip". Nice, I didn't know about that feature. Thanks. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80369 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] For sound quality, how important is the computer that connects to Touch?
Soulkeeper wrote: > There are two conceivable ways in which the computer can affect sound > quality. In tha vast majority of cases, both are negligible. I agree with those, and add one more conceivable way, especially as the OP specifically mentioned the possibility of "a less noisy" computer: the sound of the computer itself (fan, hard disk, etc) may be annoying. It doesn't affect the sound quality of the music per se, but it can affect your enjoyment of the music. If that's the case, the simple answer is to move the computer to some place out of the listening room, where you won't hear it. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94603 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] copying Favorites from MySB to My Music
Well, there is manual copying and pasting the URLs from the mysb.com web page to the Favorites section of the LMS web interface. But a simpler and faster approach is to use the "My favorites on mysqueezebox.com" link, which should appear at the bottom of your list of LMS Favorites. The beauty of the latter approach is that you don't have two lists to sync. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94830 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?
reniera wrote: > I really wonder what is the sense and motivation of your post and why > this initiative comes from you and not from Logitech. Couldn't be much clearer: -The purpose of this thread is mainly to give existing and new third party developers ideas of things which people want, since Logitech developers are present on this forum there is also a chance that someone from Logitech will spot the thread and pickup some excellent ideas for new features.- In other words, ideas for enhancements to SB software that 3rd party developers are capable of delivering, with or without input from Logitech, which has its own set of priorities. If Logitech happens to pick up on some of the ideas, consider it a bonus. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?
epoch1970 wrote: > #4: A not dead MIP-like system. > I use MIP and it kind of works. But it has its quirks and won't run on > anything other than i386 (AFAIK) +1 Actually MIP works pretty well for me (aside from utf-8 issues), but we all know it's on borrowed time at best. The SB system needs a living replacement for MIP. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do you want to create/manage playlists ?
erland wrote: > To anyone that currently uses static playlists: > 1. How many static playlists do you have for your library ? > 2. Is a static playlist typically something you make, use for a single > event/party and deletes afterwards ? > 3. Is a static playlist typically something you make once and never > change afterwards ? > 4. Can you give some examples of static playlists which you currently > have and use continuously ? (name + when you use them) 1. Probably around 50. Almost all of them were initially created with MIP or SQL/Dynamic Playlists, then lightly edited (remove the inevitable tracks that don't fit, maybe change the ordering a little), and saved. 2. I usually make them for a party or event, but don't delete them afterwards. There are only a few that I've played a 2nd or 3rd time (or more), but I'm a pack-rat so I don't delete them. 3. It is rare for me to go back and change a playlist. 4. Just one example that I made a few weeks ago and then replayed last night when we had some people over for dinner on the deck outside. It was a MIP-generated list that used "Soukoura" (Ali Farka Touré and Ry Cooder) as the "seed track". If I think about I'll post the playlist later when I'm home. Would mostly use as background music when entertaining. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94988 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How do you want to create/manage playlists ?
erland wrote: > Since the playlist management in SBS/LMS is a bit limited and most > people seems to use external software to manage their playlist it feels > like there is a need for something better in SBS/LMS. > > So, some questions to people that use saved playlists and would like to > be easier. > Try to think about how you like it to work instead of how it works > today. > > 1. What kind of device would you like to use when creating the playlists > ? > 2. How do you decide what should be part of a playlist ? > 3. How do you decide which order the tracks should have in the playlist > ? > 4. What's the most frustrating limitation with SBS/LMS playlist > management today ? > 5. What kind of device would you like to use when modifying existing > playlists ? > 6. What kind of modifications do you usually do on already existing > playlists ? 1. Any of those listed are fine, but a computer or tablet would be preferred. 2. Automatically select 100 tracks that match some criteria, including something like MIP's/Spicefly Sugar Cube's music-type (ie, something more "musical" than user-supplied genres, ratings, last-played, etc). And it has to be easy to edit after the initial playlist is generated. 3. Initially as generated by MIP/Spicefly - like program (or even not nearly as good, such as Apple Genius), then drag-and-drop tracks to re-order 4. That it's too hard to reorder tracks in existing playlists 5. Computer, tablet, or smartphone 6. All of the above. The most important is removing tracks, followed by reordering and adding. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94988 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezebox Classics?
Agreed that the SB3 (or "Classic") is fully compatible with the current LMS server software. My SB3 and SB2s get at least as much as my Touch and Radio. Do note that there may be some minor incompatibilities. For example, if you use Spotify then the official Spotify app from Logitech only supports the Touch and Radio. However, you can still listen to Spotify on an older SB such as the Classic by using Triode's unofficial Spotify plugin. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95033 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] itunes match and flac files
Do you have LAME installed on the QNAP? aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95035 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] itunes match and flac files
If you don't know then it probably isn't installed. I'm not aware of a plugin for installing LAME -- you just have to install it. How you do that on a QNAP I don't have a clue. Do you have root/superuser access on the command line? As for LAME itself, see http://lame.sourceforge.net/ . aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95035 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Advice on where to go next
sherington wrote: > Oncwe you have the backup situation sorted, go for the Touch - the best > quality sound out of SB ever - to date I think most people would say that title goes to the Transporter, but for sound quality per dollar (or euro or pound or peso) the Touch is it. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95024 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] What is missing from your Squeezebox experience ?
prabbit wrote: > 1. Ability to embed lyrics into a song file. Using the Song Lyrics > plugin, I can see the lyrics on my computer browser or through iPeng. > I'd like to be able to save those into the file somehow. When I ran my > lyrics finder batch program, it found lyrics for ~50% of the songs in my > library. It missed some that it should have found. When I play a song > that doesn't have lyrics embedded in it and view Song Info, I'll see > lyrics that are delivered from www.musixmatch.com. Fyi, that ability already exists. Before the Song Lyrics plugin was invented I used to do this with software called Music Bee. It's simply a matter of adding the lyrics as metadata, just like any other tag. The SB server software recognized the tag and displayed the lyrics on interfaces such as the web ui and the SB Controller. Most of my library has the lyrics in tags, but to be honest, now when I look at the lyrics I don't know if they're coming from the tags or if they are being fetched by the Song Lyrics plugin (except for newer additions to my library, which Song Lyrics is definitely fetching). aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=94987 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MOG & iPeng Issues- MOG Always switches player to mysb.com
jclyle wrote: > I'm running 7.6.1 > Is there a way to upgrade just the server software? I'm pretty sure MOG support was introduced with 7.7.0. Upgrading the server software should be a simple matter of using the vortexbox graphical user interface. See, for example, http://vortexbox.org/threads/3121-Logitech-Media-Server-7-7-1-released-for-VortexBox aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95200 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best way of deleting files from library
The way it _should_ work is to run a "new and changed" scan when you add new tracks, and a full "clear and rescan" whenever you delete something or move its location on the drive, say, to a different folder. Sometimes the "new and changed" doesn't work even when it should, so in those cases you should do a full "clear and rescan". Assuming that you've already done a "clear and rescan", the best advice I can offer for what to try next is to stop LMS, delete LMS's cache folder, and then restart LMS. That will start a new scan from scratch. Any clues in the log file? aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95247 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Creating Playlists
I rarely hand select my playlists any more. My collection has gotten too big, and Squeezebox makes it too easy to "discover" tracks I've forgotten I have. Most often I use MusicIP to generate playlists based on the "acoustic fingerprint" of one or more "seed" tracks. Kind of like Apple's "Genius" mixes, but better in my opinion. Then I may tinker with what MusicIP has created, adding/deleting/re-ordering tracks to fit my tastes a little better. Unfortunately MusicIP is no longer actively supported, but there are a lot of users around here who can help. I found this wiki article essential for getting it up and running with LMS: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Integrating_MusicIP_with_SqueezeCenter . Fair warning: it does take MusicIP a long time to analyze all your tracks the first time. Beyond that, any music software that can read your music files and write .m3u format playlists will work. Foobar2000, MediaMonkey, J River Media Center, Winamp, Songbird, the list goes on. I am not sure if iTunes will write m3u playlist files, but I think it will. You can also make playlists using LMS, either through the web interface or through one of the SB players, although LMS's playlist creation interface is pretty awkward for most users. There are also 3rd party controller software solutions, such as iPeng, Squeezepad, etc. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Creating Playlists
cathcam wrote: > Thanks, you make some good points, seems in some ways we are going in > opposite directions though. > > I would like to go ahead and create some playlists, although some of > what I want to achieve could be done by re-tagging the original MP3's > for example with a track number, that isn't the direction I want to go > down I'll have a look and see if I can get videolan to create m3u files > using drag and drop and then save the playlist into a location where the > LMS can find them. If you want to create them manually and if VLC is already your preferred media software then sure, that would be a good place to start. And if the VLC standard configuration doesn't support m3u then you should look for add-ons, because m3u is still a common format. For example, when I first used Songbird it didn't support exporting m3u, but soon enough there was a community-contributed add-on that added that feature. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95248 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dear Squeezebox, still love you
GeeJay wrote: > I don't spend nearly as much time tweaking my system as I used to. I > kinda miss it, but it's a sign that the system CAN be reliable, despite > what an outsider may think by reading this forum. Thanks to the 3rd > party plugins, particularly Erland's suite, I can listen to my music > exactly how I want to. Even if Sonos found a way to replicate the > experience, why would I want to spend more money to do the same thing? > Fortunately, I found a system that is both very flexible AND economical. > > > I hope Logitech continues to support this product. It truly reawakened > my love of music, and I am proof that digital music can be profitable to > the industry...I wouldn't have spent nearly as much on music if > Squeezebox hadn't come along. +1 My sentiments exactly. You hit every feature that matters: ease of use (honest), expandable, flexible, economical, and I've bought much, much more music in the six years since I bought my first SB than I did in the 20 years before. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=93924 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dying Classics?
plympton wrote: > Touches and radios are out of the question since they don't sync well... Huh? In my experience the Touch and Radio sync just as well as the IP3K-based models. I've seen a couple reports of sync problems, but none that conclusively pinned it down to the newer SB models. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Dying Classics?
It sounds as if you had some issues with your system then, and there's no guarantee you won't have them again. But it hasn't been a general issue of sync'ing Touches by any means. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95442 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cheapest option for hardware to run iPeng?
What you're probably looking for is an "iPod touch" (Apple and their fuNky captiLization...), sometimes called an iTouch. To keep costs down, look for a refurbished one at Apple.com or elsewhere. I can highly recommend the 3rd Generation iPod touch. If you're mostly using it for remote control of SB and not for playing music on its own, then you can also save money by getting one without much RAM. I got one with 32GB because it doubles as my portable player when I travel -- if you don't have that need then an 8GB model would be fine. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95474 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Cheapest option for hardware to run iPeng?
pippin wrote: > BUT: you have to be careful, there are no 3rg Generation models with 8 > GB, I believe, they only come in 32 an 64 GB variants, 8GB is only for > 2nd and 4th Gen. Good point, because there is some confusion out there in the secondary markets. As explained on wikipedia: > > Following the introduction of the 3rd generation iPod Touch, Apple also > continued offering the 2nd generation 8 GB version, upgraded to the same > iPhone OS version as the new 3rd generation devices. The iPod Touch (3rd > generation) is model A1318. Apple as well sold many refurbished iPod > Touch 2nd generation models with the 3rd generation software effectively > making them a 3rd generation unit. These can be identified by having a > maximum installable version of iOS 4.2.1. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95474 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Altering the Controller Menu
wombatch wrote: > You are right it doesn't really help that much and, as far as I can see > it only allows me to hide items on the Squeezbox display menu itself not > on a remote controller eg. Android or IOS controller application. Actually it will allow you to customize the options on a SB Controller. But it won't help you with other devices such as Android- or iOS-based devices. For that you would have to look for such options in Android or iOS software itself. Likewise, you can get more customization of an SB Controller if you are willing to play around with trying to rewrite some of the code that runs the SBC (it's written in Lua). aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95468 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MOG or Spotify: Is one better than the other for Squeezebox?
I tried Spotify for a few months and didn't like its interface with SBs. Too hard to save albums or artists to a "library" or "favorites", whereas in MOG it is very straightforward. And with MOG at half the price it was an easy choice for me. People who are really into the social music media scene may prefer Spotify because of the ease of sharing playlists and so forth, but for me Spotify on the SB system was just to clunky. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95503 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MOG or Spotify: Is one better than the other for Squeezebox?
GeeJay wrote: > I've been considering a subscription to one of these services, but I > can't find any threads in this forum or anywhere else comparing the two > with respect to the Squeezebox experience. Are there material > differences? I forgot to mention in my earlier post that most of these services offer limited free trial periods, anywhere from 7 days to 1 month, depending on the ebb and flow of trying to lure new users. My advice is to try them and decide for yourself. And if you're not sure after the free trial, go ahead with a paid subscription for another month or two. I think they all let you pay month-by-month, so you won't have to commit to more than 5 or 10 [insert appropriate currency here] at a time. And if Rhapsody is available in your area, that may be worth a try as well. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95503 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with Pandora (& apps in general)
There are two critical steps that you have not mentioned. One, you need to go www.mysqueezebox.com, login to your account, and then enter your username and password credentials for every app that requires them, such as Pandora. Two, you need to go to LMS on your server, and enter your mysb.com login credentials under Settings > mysqueezebox.com. After that you should be fine. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95675 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Help with Pandora (& apps in general)
rantsc wrote: > I've taken the steps you've outlined, however no improvement. Just for > clarification; > > app is present in app gallery > when I select app it opens > when I select a "station", the "now playing" window up-dates with the > artwork, title info, & timer > the timer/clock will be begin running, however no audio is produced > this will continue for 8-10 secs before advancing to the next "track" > the process continues never producing any audio > > This is not isolated to Pandora; all apps I've attempted to run have the > same results. I'm certain I've got something mis-configured. You need to get the app out of "Apps Gallery" and into "My Apps." you do that by logging in to your account on mysb.com, and then "installing" the app. Nothing is really installed in the normal sense of the word, but installation is when you can put in your user account information for Pandora or other subscription services (free or paid). aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95675 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Changing wav to flac and migrating out of iTunes
There are several tools you can use to transcode from WAV to FLAC. Which you choose depends first on what OS you are using, and secondarily on your preferences among the available software, and third on what you're willing to pay. On Windows I can highly recommend dBpoweramp for transcoding; it is also an outstanding ripping program with excellent metadata support. If you want freeware then foobar2000 is another good choice for converting WAV to FLAC. And, of course, there is the FLAC program itself, which is available for Windows and Linux, but I'm not sure about OSX. One thing you will have to deal with is getting the metadata (tags) into your new FLAC files. iTunes does not write tags to WAV files -- instead it keeps the metadata information in its own database. You need to figure out a way to get that information out of the iTunes database and into the tags in the new FLAC files. If the file and foldernames are consistent (e.g., \The Beatles\Revolver\01 - Taxman.wav) then you can use a tool like mp3tag to write the info in the file and folder names to tags in the FLAC files, although that will still leave frequently-useful fields such as YEAR, GENRE, etc empty. You may be able to fill in missing tag information with mp3tag as well. But you may be in for a lot of manual tagging work, which is a direct result of using WAV files to begin with, as very few programs write tags to WAV files. Separating your AAC and FLAC files is easy: do it at a high level and maintain parallel branches. So instead of having your current situation of stuffing everything in the same album folder, like so: \The Beatles\Revolver\01-Taxman.wav \The Beatles\Revolver\01-Taxman.aac \The Beatles\Revolver\02-Eleanor Rigby.wav \The Beatles\Revolver\02-Eleanor Rigby.aac you will have: \FLAC\The Beatles\Revolver\01-Taxman.flac \FLAC\The Beatles\Revolver\02-Eleanor Rigby.flac \AAC\The Beatles\Revolver\01-Taxman.aac \AAC\The Beatles\Revolver\02-Eleanor Rigby.aac Then just point Logitech Media Server to \FLAC and it won't see the AAC files at all. Maintaining this kind of parallel structure as you add new albums is easy with software such as dBpoweramp. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Changing wav to flac and migrating out of iTunes
I was assuming that the AAC copy for the iPods is lossy. So if the OP wants to preserve a lossless copy for home use then the WAV needs to be converted to some other lossless codec, and kept separate from the lossy AAC. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95787 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New SB ?
Oh, and Logitech has a policy of not commenting about what is, or is not, cooking in the kitchen. They wait until the meal is ready to be served. At least as long as some bonehead distributor doesn't leak the information first, as happened with the Touch several months before its release. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95885 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New SB ?
Two simple questions: When you were listening, did you know which resolution you were listening to? And are you 100% certain all three are from the same masterings? aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95885 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New SB ?
Perhaps my first question was misunderstood, so let me rephrase. At the time you were doing the comparisons, did you know which of the resolutions you were listening to, or did you "anonymize" them as A, B, and C, and come to your conclusions on the basis of sound quality alone, without knowledge of which resolution it was. You know, blind testing? And the answer to my second question is no (because you're not certain). The way to be certain is simple, as already suggested by Mnyb: take a 24/192 track, downsample it yourself to 24/96 and 16/44.1, and then compare those. I have seen too many cases of people _thinking_ they are comparing 16/44.1 with 24/48 or 24/96 when in fact they are comparing different resolutions _and_ different masterings, also known as apples and oranges. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95885 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New kit next year?
I'm no expert on the industry, but my reading is that if Logitech has any new offerings in the music category it will be more devices like their AirPlay radio, and maybe their Bluetooth devices. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95893 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New SB ?
Agreed, and in this instance it's really pretty easy to do a double-blind test, or do away with the partner entirely and have a valid single-blind test. 1) use the same original source (24/192), and downsample to get the 24/96 and 16/44.1. That way you know that any difference isn't down to different masterings. 2) tag the three tracks the same way, so that the SB player display and web ui do not give any indication of which is which. 3) generate a playlist with the three tracks in random order. Better yet, allow for a playlist of up to 6 or 10 tracks, so that each version has a chance of being played more than once. This will permit the listener to identify tracks as "different" when in fact they are exactly the same. There are a couple different ways you could do this. a) put the three tracks in a playlist multiple times and activate shuffle mode b) use the Random playlist plugin. To make sure you only get those three tracks you could either (i) tag them with a unique genre, and limit the random play to that genre, or (ii) temporarily tell LMS that the folder(s) with the three tracks is your entire music library. 4) start listening. Listen each version of the track in its entirety, or jump back and forth between the tracks as much as you like. When listening, only pay attention to what # _on_the_playlist_ you are listening to. Keep notes if you like. 5) after you've listened enough, write down which tracks on the playlist sounded better / deeper / wider / more relaxed / more constricted / brighter / etc. 6) go to the LMS web ui and drill down for each track to see whether it was 24/192, 24/96, or 16/44.1. Compare to your list in #5. Voilà. No doubt this protocol can be improved upon, so feel free to suggest any. I've used it several times and have been struck by how seldom I hear a difference. Could be my aging ears, could be my unrevealig mid-fi system, could be my room acoustics, could be the recordings themselves, could be there really is no audible difference. But at least I can rule out expectation bias and the power of suggestion. aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95885 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] New SB ?
I think most people use 'SoX' (http://sox.sourceforge.net) or 'foobar2000' (www.foobar2000.org). aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=95885 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
