Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best way to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and you're alone at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and feel uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very violent city. in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best way to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and you're alone at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and feel uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very violent city. in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
There is an organization with employees, computers, accountants, and lawyers, whos objective is receiving someone call when it gets dark asking to be walked to their car? Are you trolling me? On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best way to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and you're alone at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and feel uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very violent city. in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
Cool huh? On Thursday, January 23, 2014, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: There is an organization with employees, computers, accountants, and lawyers, whos objective is receiving someone call when it gets dark asking to be walked to their car? Are you trolling me? On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:28 PM, Justin Herman just...@gmail.com wrote: Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best way to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and you're alone at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and feel uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very violent city. in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carr ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf I'm making a quick document with these numbers to hang by the front door. I'd also add them to the wiki, but I don't have time at the moment. http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best way to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and you're alone at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and feel uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very violent city. in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone in the space, day or night. The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar hoppers. Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will increase the level of safety for all involved. It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no longer have a cellphone. Also, add a *doorbell* and a *peephole* to the entrance. Do the exterior *lights* on the exterior front wall operate? Are they on a timer or an auto-sensor? Just some thoughts in the interest of everybody's well-being and because I don't like visiting people in the hospital. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf I'm making a quick document with these numbers to hang by the front door. I'd also add them to the wiki, but I don't have time at the moment. http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best way to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and you're alone at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and feel uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very violent city. in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
I am with Torrie on just leaving the exterior foods on for the moment, we can add a photocell later, were talking about spare change a day, and I'm happy to donate it if it comes up. Our electric bill can survive on what falls out of the mouth of the gas bill for the next month. We have a doorbell, I have a 24v transformer and chime that will arrive shortly (has anyone found (somewhere inside) the wires that connect to the doorbell switch yet?) Peephhole? We happen to have a B.A.C. (Large Camera) ready to go, and I'll be happy to help get it up and running in an accessible way the moment there is no paperclip left at 21, but for the moment I feel there is more left at 21 than most people think, besides 1000 pounds of machinery, details wound into the walls and nailed to the ceiling, in a week everything we leave is gone. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone in the space, day or night. The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar hoppers. Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will increase the level of safety for all involved. It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no longer have a cellphone. Also, add a *doorbell* and a *peephole* to the entrance. Do the exterior *lights* on the exterior front wall operate? Are they on a timer or an auto-sensor? Just some thoughts in the interest of everybody's well-being and because I don't like visiting people in the hospital. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf I'm making a quick document with these numbers to hang by the front door. I'd also add them to the wiki, but I don't have time at the moment. http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best way to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and you're alone at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and feel uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very violent city. in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
CFL flood lamp blubs are available for under $10 each. Link = On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: I am with Torrie on just leaving the exterior foods on for the moment, we can add a photocell later, were talking about spare change a day, and I'm happy to donate it if it comes up. Our electric bill can survive on what falls out of the mouth of the gas bill for the next month. We have a doorbell, I have a 24v transformer and chime that will arrive shortly (has anyone found (somewhere inside) the wires that connect to the doorbell switch yet?) Peephhole? We happen to have a B.A.C. (Large Camera) ready to go, and I'll be happy to help get it up and running in an accessible way the moment there is no paperclip left at 21, but for the moment I feel there is more left at 21 than most people think, besides 1000 pounds of machinery, details wound into the walls and nailed to the ceiling, in a week everything we leave is gone. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone in the space, day or night. The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar hoppers. Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will increase the level of safety for all involved. It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no longer have a cellphone. Also, add a *doorbell* and a *peephole* to the entrance. Do the exterior *lights* on the exterior front wall operate? Are they on a timer or an auto-sensor? Just some thoughts in the interest of everybody's well-being and because I don't like visiting people in the hospital. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf I'm making a quick document with these numbers to hang by the front door. I'd also add them to the wiki, but I don't have time at the moment. http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best way to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and you're alone at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and feel uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very violent city. in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Sorry, damn keyboard! Link = http://www.1000bulbs.com/product/8156/FC23-P3841OD.html Only $8.34 each, in quantities of 6 or more. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:26 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: CFL flood lamp blubs are available for under $10 each. Link = On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:19 PM, Craig Bergdorf mm1...@gmail.com wrote: I am with Torrie on just leaving the exterior foods on for the moment, we can add a photocell later, were talking about spare change a day, and I'm happy to donate it if it comes up. Our electric bill can survive on what falls out of the mouth of the gas bill for the next month. We have a doorbell, I have a 24v transformer and chime that will arrive shortly (has anyone found (somewhere inside) the wires that connect to the doorbell switch yet?) Peephhole? We happen to have a B.A.C. (Large Camera) ready to go, and I'll be happy to help get it up and running in an accessible way the moment there is no paperclip left at 21, but for the moment I feel there is more left at 21 than most people think, besides 1000 pounds of machinery, details wound into the walls and nailed to the ceiling, in a week everything we leave is gone. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone in the space, day or night. The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar hoppers. Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will increase the level of safety for all involved. It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no longer have a cellphone. Also, add a *doorbell* and a *peephole* to the entrance. Do the exterior *lights* on the exterior front wall operate? Are they on a timer or an auto-sensor? Just some thoughts in the interest of everybody's well-being and because I don't like visiting people in the hospital. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf I'm making a quick document with these numbers to hang by the front door. I'd also add them to the wiki, but I don't have time at the moment. http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best way to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and you're alone at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and feel uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very violent city. in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org
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BTW, I was careful to make a suggestion, not create a policy. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: On the subject of working alone, being safe. I knew a dentist who cut off his left hand while using a table saw, working alone in his garage. The paperboy found him on the floor in a pool of gooey red liquid. Damn near killed him. Being the moron he was, he tried to show his friend how the accident happened and cut off his right hand. He now divorced, depressed, unemployed and eats with hooks and claws. It is obviously up the the individual to make the choice to work alone or with somebody around. To each his own at SH, with variable risk. For me, I prefer another warm body within yelling distance. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone in the space, day or night. I don't like the idea of this becoming a policy. If you are afraid to visit the space alone because you are afraid of a flying wombat attacking you at SYN/HAK, then feel free to personally employ the buddy system to ensure your safety. However, the concept of never allowing a single person alone in the space defeats the purpose of the space. The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar hoppers. Yes. And those are all activities that have inherent dangers. Drowning, falling, enemy fire, and beer goggles all have inherent risks. While we have inherent risks at SYN/HAK, to say that it is dangerous as diving, rock-climbing, or warfighting is outright wrong. Many activities that people engage in at SYN/HAK carry less risk than driving to the space to engage in said activities. If I'm working on a project on my laptop and no one else is around, what are my risks? Repetitive stress injury? Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will increase the level of safety for all involved. It also reduces the usability of the space for certain people. I know of at least one person that enjoys coming to the space during hours that no one else is around for time to decompress and not deal with social interaction. Introverted people who wish to come in and use a laptop for 2 hours at 3AM on a Wednesday night might find a requirement that two people be present to be counter-intuitive and against what they originally signed up for. Additionally, this goes against our existing policy that any member is eligible to have 24/7 access. It's no longer 24/7 access if you can't find someone else to go to SYN/HAK with you, or do not wish to find someone to go with you or meet you there, It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no longer have a cellphone. True, if you're working with power tools or other heavy machinery, it is wise to employ the buddy system. However, making it a mandated requirement isn't a good idea. Also, add a *doorbell* Work in progress and a *peephole* to the entrance. Does the 1'x1' glass pane already in the door not count as a peephole? Do the exterior *lights* on the exterior front wall operate? Are they on a timer or an auto-sensor? They've been on for like 4 days straight. They are on a switch. We are discussing putting them onto a timer or photocell for purposes of not running lights during sunlight hours. Just some thoughts in the interest of everybody's well-being and because I don't like visiting people in the hospital. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf I'm making a quick document with these numbers to hang by the front door. I'd also add them to the wiki, but I don't have time at the moment. http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best
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On Thursday, January 23, 2014 23:19:33 Craig Bergdorf wrote: I am with Torrie on just leaving the exterior foods on for the moment, we can add a photocell later, were talking about spare change a day, and I'm happy to donate it if it comes up. Our electric bill can survive on what falls out of the mouth of the gas bill for the next month. We have a doorbell, I have a 24v transformer and chime that will arrive shortly (has anyone found (somewhere inside) the wires that connect to the doorbell switch yet?) Nope, sorry. I started to then realized I'd need to pull out the lightswitches by the front door to figure out where the wire came in. Peephhole? We happen to have a B.A.C. (Large Camera) ready to go, and I'll be happy to help get it up and running in an accessible way the moment there is no paperclip left at 21, but for the moment I feel there is more left at 21 than most people think, besides 1000 pounds of machinery, details wound into the walls and nailed to the ceiling, in a week everything we leave is gone. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone in the space, day or night. The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar hoppers. Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will increase the level of safety for all involved. It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no longer have a cellphone. Also, add a *doorbell* and a *peephole* to the entrance. Do the exterior *lights* on the exterior front wall operate? Are they on a timer or an auto-sensor? Just some thoughts in the interest of everybody's well-being and because I don't like visiting people in the hospital. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.netwrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership Poster: http://www.downtownakron.com/_files/docs/who-to-call.pdf I'm making a quick document with these numbers to hang by the front door. I'd also add them to the wiki, but I don't have time at the moment. http://www.downtownakron.com/clean-and-safe/ambassadors/who-to-call On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:15 PM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: It's Akron folks not south central LA. While being aware of your surroundings is sound advice regardless of geographic location the best way to win a fight is not to get in one. If it's late at night and you're alone at the space by all means leave the door locked. All the parking is relatively close and pretty well lit. If you encounter someone and feel uncomfortable just be polite and keep moving. Akron isn't a very violent city. in excellence, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 4:25 AM, Andrew Buczko a4s...@dsprototyping.com wrote: Akron is a bad part of Akron. Hopefully SynHak can make it better. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Jan 22, 2014 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 ...and 21 W. North felt safer or something? Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing
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Leave the 1' x 1' window in the door and be prepared to have one or more deranged homeless creatures standing outside, looking in at all hours of the day and night. Install a peephole and deny them the pleasure of counting the number of people in residence and watching them go about their business. SH is not a like a zoo, where the occupants are on display. IMO, a peephole is far superior to a pane of glass. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: BTW, I was careful to make a suggestion, not create a policy. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: On the subject of working alone, being safe. I knew a dentist who cut off his left hand while using a table saw, working alone in his garage. The paperboy found him on the floor in a pool of gooey red liquid. Damn near killed him. Being the moron he was, he tried to show his friend how the accident happened and cut off his right hand. He now divorced, depressed, unemployed and eats with hooks and claws. It is obviously up the the individual to make the choice to work alone or with somebody around. To each his own at SH, with variable risk. For me, I prefer another warm body within yelling distance. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone in the space, day or night. I don't like the idea of this becoming a policy. If you are afraid to visit the space alone because you are afraid of a flying wombat attacking you at SYN/HAK, then feel free to personally employ the buddy system to ensure your safety. However, the concept of never allowing a single person alone in the space defeats the purpose of the space. The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar hoppers. Yes. And those are all activities that have inherent dangers. Drowning, falling, enemy fire, and beer goggles all have inherent risks. While we have inherent risks at SYN/HAK, to say that it is dangerous as diving, rock-climbing, or warfighting is outright wrong. Many activities that people engage in at SYN/HAK carry less risk than driving to the space to engage in said activities. If I'm working on a project on my laptop and no one else is around, what are my risks? Repetitive stress injury? Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will increase the level of safety for all involved. It also reduces the usability of the space for certain people. I know of at least one person that enjoys coming to the space during hours that no one else is around for time to decompress and not deal with social interaction. Introverted people who wish to come in and use a laptop for 2 hours at 3AM on a Wednesday night might find a requirement that two people be present to be counter-intuitive and against what they originally signed up for. Additionally, this goes against our existing policy that any member is eligible to have 24/7 access. It's no longer 24/7 access if you can't find someone else to go to SYN/HAK with you, or do not wish to find someone to go with you or meet you there, It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no longer have a cellphone. True, if you're working with power tools or other heavy machinery, it is wise to employ the buddy system. However, making it a mandated requirement isn't a good idea. Also, add a *doorbell* Work in progress and a *peephole* to the entrance. Does the 1'x1' glass pane already in the door not count as a peephole? Do the exterior *lights* on the exterior front wall operate? Are they on a timer or an auto-sensor? They've been on for like 4 days straight. They are on a switch. We are discussing putting them onto a timer or photocell for purposes of not running lights during sunlight hours. Just some thoughts in the interest of everybody's well-being and because I don't like visiting people in the hospital. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Torrie Fischer tdfisc...@hackerbots.net wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 16:28:06 Justin Herman wrote: Since we are now part of downtown Akron we should be able to use the Downtown Akron Partnership safety escorts during their Hours. Also if you see something out of place and the Downtown Ambassadors are not available dont hesitate to call the police Non Emergency 330-375-2490 or Emergency 911. *To request a safety escort:* Contact the duty supervisor by cell phone 330-706-7383. *To request a battery jump:* Call 330-374-7612 or 330-706-7383. *To report a cleaning issue or a non-emergency safety concern:* Call 330-374-7612 or e-mail s...@downtownakron.com. Downtown Akron Partnership
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I'm sorry but are we're not 12 year olds coming to a hackersapce during the wee hours? SH is not a like a zoo We've had a live webcam running since before 21 W North street. Don't like it? Cover it while you're at the space. Install a peephole and deny them the pleasure of counting the number of people in residence The door is at an angle, you look through the window at a wall. I knew a dentist who cut off his left hand while using a table saw Does this mean that everyone needs their hand held at Synhak? We have safety equipment, required safety classes, liability waivers. What more is necessary to let adults be responsible for themselves? be prepared to have one or more deranged homeless creatures standing outside I didn't realize there was a horde of the mentally unstable on its way to Akron. Really guys? This discussion has gone to another level, I understand that safety is paramount but its also sort of a given. Whether you're in downtown Akron or in a gated community it doesn't matter, there are plenty of ways and resources in Akron to stay safe and the responsibility is on everyone to be safe, ultimately there is nothing Synhak Inc. or anyone else can do to prevent every single possibility. Look out for eachother, fostering a warm envirnoment and not one of fear, if you see a problem fix it, be excellent to eachother. Humans will typically respond in kind, we don't have to fortify Synhak because a few apples could maybe possibly potentially be slightly or majorly bad. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:44 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: Leave the 1' x 1' window in the door and be prepared to have one or more deranged homeless creatures standing outside, looking in at all hours of the day and night. Install a peephole and deny them the pleasure of counting the number of people in residence and watching them go about their business. SH is not a like a zoo, where the occupants are on display. IMO, a peephole is far superior to a pane of glass. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: BTW, I was careful to make a suggestion, not create a policy. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: On the subject of working alone, being safe. I knew a dentist who cut off his left hand while using a table saw, working alone in his garage. The paperboy found him on the floor in a pool of gooey red liquid. Damn near killed him. Being the moron he was, he tried to show his friend how the accident happened and cut off his right hand. He now divorced, depressed, unemployed and eats with hooks and claws. It is obviously up the the individual to make the choice to work alone or with somebody around. To each his own at SH, with variable risk. For me, I prefer another warm body within yelling distance. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone in the space, day or night. I don't like the idea of this becoming a policy. If you are afraid to visit the space alone because you are afraid of a flying wombat attacking you at SYN/HAK, then feel free to personally employ the buddy system to ensure your safety. However, the concept of never allowing a single person alone in the space defeats the purpose of the space. The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar hoppers. Yes. And those are all activities that have inherent dangers. Drowning, falling, enemy fire, and beer goggles all have inherent risks. While we have inherent risks at SYN/HAK, to say that it is dangerous as diving, rock-climbing, or warfighting is outright wrong. Many activities that people engage in at SYN/HAK carry less risk than driving to the space to engage in said activities. If I'm working on a project on my laptop and no one else is around, what are my risks? Repetitive stress injury? Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will increase the level of safety for all involved. It also reduces the usability of the space for certain people. I know of at least one person that enjoys coming to the space during hours that no one else is around for time to decompress and not deal with social interaction. Introverted people who wish to come in and use a laptop for 2 hours at 3AM on a Wednesday night might find a requirement that two people be present to be counter-intuitive and against what they originally signed up for. Additionally, this goes against our existing policy that any member is eligible to have 24/7 access. It's no longer 24/7 access if you can't find someone else to go to SYN/HAK with you, or do not wish to find someone to go with you or meet you there, It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have been hit
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The window in the door affords a luxurious view of about 25sqft of our total 4000sqft. Being on display is not that much of an issue, not all that different from the live Web cam that's been running at SynHak since before 21w. north. We are a public space open to the community. During planned business hours the door shall remain unlocked but if the security of our members ,visitors, or equipment is at risk it is wise for occupants of the space to lock the door. The door currently installed i might add has a full height hinge and is constructed out of aluminum. We are 3-4 blocks from the court house and police precinct. If we begin to regularly hold late hours I'm sure we could request additional patrols. We are also located next to the marines recruiting office which I am lead to believe does not tolerate vagrants causing trouble. In summary I think the risk posed by violent drug users, Romero zombies, the lord humungus, reavers, and ETs to be overblown. 28Days Later zombies though... A large display/intercom of live video feed of the front door a la the lone gunmen would be a nice addition for the back 40. I will keep an eye out for such an intercom. Perhaps an old baby monitor could be repurosed... I do not mean to belittle any ones concerns and apologize if it comes across that way. see you at the space, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 11:44 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: Leave the 1' x 1' window in the door and be prepared to have one or more deranged homeless creatures standing outside, looking in at all hours of the day and night. Install a peephole and deny them the pleasure of counting the number of people in residence and watching them go about their business. SH is not a like a zoo, where the occupants are on display. IMO, a peephole is far superior to a pane of glass. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: BTW, I was careful to make a suggestion, not create a policy. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: On the subject of working alone, being safe. I knew a dentist who cut off his left hand while using a table saw, working alone in his garage. The paperboy found him on the floor in a pool of gooey red liquid. Damn near killed him. Being the moron he was, he tried to show his friend how the accident happened and cut off his right hand. He now divorced, depressed, unemployed and eats with hooks and claws. It is obviously up the the individual to make the choice to work alone or with somebody around. To each his own at SH, with variable risk. For me, I prefer another warm body within yelling distance. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.comwrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone in the space, day or night. I don't like the idea of this becoming a policy. If you are afraid to visit the space alone because you are afraid of a flying wombat attacking you at SYN/HAK, then feel free to personally employ the buddy system to ensure your safety. However, the concept of never allowing a single person alone in the space defeats the purpose of the space. The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar hoppers. Yes. And those are all activities that have inherent dangers. Drowning, falling, enemy fire, and beer goggles all have inherent risks. While we have inherent risks at SYN/HAK, to say that it is dangerous as diving, rock-climbing, or warfighting is outright wrong. Many activities that people engage in at SYN/HAK carry less risk than driving to the space to engage in said activities. If I'm working on a project on my laptop and no one else is around, what are my risks? Repetitive stress injury? Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will increase the level of safety for all involved. It also reduces the usability of the space for certain people. I know of at least one person that enjoys coming to the space during hours that no one else is around for time to decompress and not deal with social interaction. Introverted people who wish to come in and use a laptop for 2 hours at 3AM on a Wednesday night might find a requirement that two people be present to be counter-intuitive and against what they originally signed up for. Additionally, this goes against our existing policy that any member is eligible to have 24/7 access. It's no longer 24/7 access if you can't find someone else to go to SYN/HAK with you, or do not wish to find someone to go with you or meet you there, It is difficult to punch the 9 and 11 on your cellphone when you have been hit over the head with a 2x4 or you have been mugged and no longer have a cellphone. True, if you're working with power tools or other heavy machinery, it is wise to employ the
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I should say I don't mean to belittle anyone either that is never my goal in life, its simply a major peeve of mine when good sense starts being explained as if we're a bunch of children over incredibly low risk. Some valves may need re-tightening but I think I'll hold it together. Happy hacking. On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 12:35 AM, a l leit...@gmail.com wrote: The window in the door affords a luxurious view of about 25sqft of our total 4000sqft. Being on display is not that much of an issue, not all that different from the live Web cam that's been running at SynHak since before 21w. north. We are a public space open to the community. During planned business hours the door shall remain unlocked but if the security of our members ,visitors, or equipment is at risk it is wise for occupants of the space to lock the door. The door currently installed i might add has a full height hinge and is constructed out of aluminum. We are 3-4 blocks from the court house and police precinct. If we begin to regularly hold late hours I'm sure we could request additional patrols. We are also located next to the marines recruiting office which I am lead to believe does not tolerate vagrants causing trouble. In summary I think the risk posed by violent drug users, Romero zombies, the lord humungus, reavers, and ETs to be overblown. 28Days Later zombies though... A large display/intercom of live video feed of the front door a la the lone gunmen would be a nice addition for the back 40. I will keep an eye out for such an intercom. Perhaps an old baby monitor could be repurosed... I do not mean to belittle any ones concerns and apologize if it comes across that way. see you at the space, Andrew L On Jan 23, 2014 11:44 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: Leave the 1' x 1' window in the door and be prepared to have one or more deranged homeless creatures standing outside, looking in at all hours of the day and night. Install a peephole and deny them the pleasure of counting the number of people in residence and watching them go about their business. SH is not a like a zoo, where the occupants are on display. IMO, a peephole is far superior to a pane of glass. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: BTW, I was careful to make a suggestion, not create a policy. On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:37 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.comwrote: On the subject of working alone, being safe. I knew a dentist who cut off his left hand while using a table saw, working alone in his garage. The paperboy found him on the floor in a pool of gooey red liquid. Damn near killed him. Being the moron he was, he tried to show his friend how the accident happened and cut off his right hand. He now divorced, depressed, unemployed and eats with hooks and claws. It is obviously up the the individual to make the choice to work alone or with somebody around. To each his own at SH, with variable risk. For me, I prefer another warm body within yelling distance. PPP On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 11:30 PM, Chris Egeland ch...@chrisegeland.com wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Philip P. Patnode ppatn...@gmail.com wrote: In the interest of safety, I strongly suggest that nobody is ever alone in the space, day or night. I don't like the idea of this becoming a policy. If you are afraid to visit the space alone because you are afraid of a flying wombat attacking you at SYN/HAK, then feel free to personally employ the buddy system to ensure your safety. However, the concept of never allowing a single person alone in the space defeats the purpose of the space. The *buddy system* works for divers, climbers, soldiers, and bar hoppers. Yes. And those are all activities that have inherent dangers. Drowning, falling, enemy fire, and beer goggles all have inherent risks. While we have inherent risks at SYN/HAK, to say that it is dangerous as diving, rock-climbing, or warfighting is outright wrong. Many activities that people engage in at SYN/HAK carry less risk than driving to the space to engage in said activities. If I'm working on a project on my laptop and no one else is around, what are my risks? Repetitive stress injury? Working at SH with at least one other person on the property will increase the level of safety for all involved. It also reduces the usability of the space for certain people. I know of at least one person that enjoys coming to the space during hours that no one else is around for time to decompress and not deal with social interaction. Introverted people who wish to come in and use a laptop for 2 hours at 3AM on a Wednesday night might find a requirement that two people be present to be counter-intuitive and against what they originally signed up for. Additionally, this goes against our existing policy that any member is eligible to have 24/7 access. It's no longer
Re: [SH-Discuss] Foot traffic
I don't suggest bringing a knife to a gun fight. Now that is part joke and mostly accurate. Guns are for self defense and knives in the eye of the law are offensive in nature. That is why if you are going to prepare for situation like defending your life have the right tool for the job. Besides being a more legal defense tool, it is also easier to be proficient with. Knife fighting takes great skill and anyone that has come out the other end of our rehabilitation system can disarm a knife easier than you can use it to hurt them. I would not fear the homeless. I fear the drug addict crashing from a binge that is desperate to score and sees a business that is open late and thinks there might be some cash on hand. There was some talk about a ccw class. I have a friend that is a NRA instructor. We are both passionate about arming law abiding citizens and being capable of defending life and liberty. Please let me know if this is still an interest and I will make it happen. That said, if you have to fight, fight with whatever you can. Better yet as previously mentioned be aware. If someone you don't know or you don't like the looks of comes in, make a phone call to a friend and be on the phone. Put yourself on the other side of a table or something else to put space between you and that other person. Keep the door locked at night and get visual confirmation before you let them in. Please be safe and let me know if you are interested in packing a piece. Peace. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I was confused by Martins original email myself and almost brought up the same points that you did Robert. What I believe Martin was saying, is that everyone of the homeless carries a box cutter, not that haxors should carry one. On 1/22/2014 19:58, Robert Rybicki wrote: I don't suggest bringing a knife to a gun fight. Now that is part joke and mostly accurate. Guns are for self defense and knives in the eye of the law are offensive in nature. That is why if you are going to prepare for situation like defending your life have the right tool for the job. Besides being a more legal defense tool, it is also easier to be proficient with. Knife fighting takes great skill and anyone that has come out the other end of our rehabilitation system can disarm a knife easier than you can use it to hurt them. I would not fear the homeless. I fear the drug addict crashing from a binge that is desperate to score and sees a business that is open late and thinks there might be some cash on hand. There was some talk about a ccw class. I have a friend that is a NRA instructor. We are both passionate about arming law abiding citizens and being capable of defending life and liberty. Please let me know if this is still an interest and I will make it happen. That said, if you have to fight, fight with whatever you can. Better yet as previously mentioned be aware. If someone you don't know or you don't like the looks of comes in, make a phone call to a friend and be on the phone. Put yourself on the other side of a table or something else to put space between you and that other person. Keep the door locked at night and get visual confirmation before you let them in. Please be safe and let me know if you are interested in packing a piece. Peace. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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I re-read what Martin said and your right. I feel silly for not reading that correctly. Offer still stands though. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2014, at 9:04 PM, J. F. Corner j...@5n4k3.com wrote: I was confused by Martins original email myself and almost brought up the same points that you did Robert. What I believe Martin was saying, is that everyone of the homeless carries a box cutter, not that haxors should carry one. On 1/22/2014 19:58, Robert Rybicki wrote: I don't suggest bringing a knife to a gun fight. Now that is part joke and mostly accurate. Guns are for self defense and knives in the eye of the law are offensive in nature. That is why if you are going to prepare for situation like defending your life have the right tool for the job. Besides being a more legal defense tool, it is also easier to be proficient with. Knife fighting takes great skill and anyone that has come out the other end of our rehabilitation system can disarm a knife easier than you can use it to hurt them. I would not fear the homeless. I fear the drug addict crashing from a binge that is desperate to score and sees a business that is open late and thinks there might be some cash on hand. There was some talk about a ccw class. I have a friend that is a NRA instructor. We are both passionate about arming law abiding citizens and being capable of defending life and liberty. Please let me know if this is still an interest and I will make it happen. That said, if you have to fight, fight with whatever you can. Better yet as previously mentioned be aware. If someone you don't know or you don't like the looks of comes in, make a phone call to a friend and be on the phone. Put yourself on the other side of a table or something else to put space between you and that other person. Keep the door locked at night and get visual confirmation before you let them in. Please be safe and let me know if you are interested in packing a piece. Peace. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 22, 2014, at 5:17 PM, Martin Pinkston martinpinks...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know if anyone has really taken serious notice of the local foot traffic at Summit yet or not. However, it generally appears to be homeless individuals walking a daily circuit until the shelters open in the evening. Not all homeless are violent; however, I have yet to see any unscrupulous person carrying a sign, warning of the potential for danger. That being said, be aware of your surroundings at all times inside and outside the building. A safe assumption would be everyone of them carries at least a box cutter for self defense. Just my $.02 Take Care Have fun Always. Martin Pinkston RN ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@synhak.org https://synhak.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
