Re: Django IDE : how to start the devserver in an editor?

2011-03-30 Thread roberto
MrMuffin,

You've also have the editra group where the author use to answering
quickly all of the questions posted there:
https://groups.google.com/group/editra?hl=en

I like your ideas and features to add into the plugin for django.

Good luck !

Roberto

On Mar 30, 4:21 pm, MrMuffin  wrote:
> I`m trying to develop a simple plugin[0] for the Editra[1] editor for
> django development. Right now it can create django projects and apps
> from within the editor. The editor is based on wxPython and I want to
> start the devserver from within the editor, show a simple form with
> the option to stop or kill/restart the server.
>
> The goal is to minimize the need to do repetetive tasks in the console/
> shell. My reason for doing this is that I`m working in a Microsoft
> only company where you seldom do stuff using the command line. Selling
> django is hard when I`m in and out of the shell/command line to start/
> restart the server, syncdb, migrate etc. To make the job of selling
> django to my co-workers and hopefully make development easier ( at
> least for the django developers who likes to work in an IDE ) I`ve
> started the work on a plugin for Editra. Right now the plugin adds a
> menu item called Django with two subitems; create project and create
> app. A context menu is in the works which will give different options
> depending on the content of the file being edited; right click in a
> window holding settings.py will give you the option to start the
> server, call syncdb, migrate etc. A right click in views.py will give
> you options to help you generate views, in models.py scaffolding,
> generation of admin.py etc.
>
> The only thing I cannot get my head around is how to start/kill/
> restart the devserver from inside the app. If anybody has any
> information about this I`d be very grateful. When the plugin is more
> stable and has a few more features I`ll post something, perhaps do a
> screencast as well. Any help, input, comments or ideas are
> appreciated.
>
> NB! I know the main problem here is not django specific, more
> wxpython, but I post the message here because I hope this project
> might be of interest to other django developers as well.
>
> Regards,
> Thomas Weholt
>
> [0]https://bitbucket.org/weholt/editra.djangomanagement
> [1]http://editra.org/

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RE: Django IDE : how to start the devserver in an editor?

2011-03-30 Thread Sells, Fred
Using eclipse you can create a run configuration that starts the
dbserver and it will auto-reload whenever you change a file.  Of course
since the dbserver auto restarts when it detects a file change, the
command line is not all that bad.

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Subject: Django IDE : how to start the devserver in an editor?

I`m trying to develop a simple plugin[0] for the Editra[1] editor for
django development. Right now it can create django projects and apps
from within the editor. The editor is based on wxPython and I want to
start the devserver from within the editor, show a simple form with
the option to stop or kill/restart the server.

The goal is to minimize the need to do repetetive tasks in the console/
shell. My reason for doing this is that I`m working in a Microsoft
only company where you seldom do stuff using the command line. Selling
django is hard when I`m in and out of the shell/command line to start/
restart the server, syncdb, migrate etc. To make the job of selling
django to my co-workers and hopefully make development easier ( at
least for the django developers who likes to work in an IDE ) I`ve
started the work on a plugin for Editra. Right now the plugin adds a
menu item called Django with two subitems; create project and create
app. A context menu is in the works which will give different options
depending on the content of the file being edited; right click in a
window holding settings.py will give you the option to start the
server, call syncdb, migrate etc. A right click in views.py will give
you options to help you generate views, in models.py scaffolding,
generation of admin.py etc.

The only thing I cannot get my head around is how to start/kill/
restart the devserver from inside the app. If anybody has any
information about this I`d be very grateful. When the plugin is more
stable and has a few more features I`ll post something, perhaps do a
screencast as well. Any help, input, comments or ideas are
appreciated.

NB! I know the main problem here is not django specific, more
wxpython, but I post the message here because I hope this project
might be of interest to other django developers as well.

Regards,
Thomas Weholt


[0] https://bitbucket.org/weholt/editra.djangomanagement
[1] http://editra.org/

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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-05 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 10:10 +0200, bagheera wrote:
> I have eclipse/aptana + PyDev but i did not found it comfortable, mb
> i  
> just gave it too little time to get familiar with, or i'm too stick
> to  
> NetBeans. However, i'll give a try to SPE mentioned in other post,
> never  
> heard of that. 

geany - lightweight and easy to use
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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-05 Thread bagheera
Dnia 05-08-2010 o 00:12:41 Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela  
 napisał(a):



If you are looking for a "Full IDE" I have used Eclipse+PyDev (and
other plugins) and works quite well, completion is reasonable and you
have a wealth of extensions such as VCS support, Mylyn Integration (to
work with remote task/issue managers), HTML editing, etc. It is a
little bloated if you are used to editors and other lightweight IDEs
though, but I can recommend it.

I haven't tried netbeans yet but I only hear good things of it so far.

As far commercial IDEs there is WingIDE and PyCharm, PyCharm is very
Django oriented right now and has very good autocompletion/code
editing tools, it may be the best option but Wing is also preparing
it's Django specific features for next release (available in beta
builds).



I have eclipse/aptana + PyDev but i did not found it comfortable, mb i  
just gave it too little time to get familiar with, or i'm too stick to  
NetBeans. However, i'll give a try to SPE mentioned in other post, never  
heard of that.

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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-04 Thread llanitedave
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned SPE yet.  I've not gone very far with
either Python nor Django yet, but from what I've done so far,
particularly with conveniently grouping modules, SPE seems to be a
natural tool.

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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-04 Thread Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela
If you are looking for a "Full IDE" I have used Eclipse+PyDev (and
other plugins) and works quite well, completion is reasonable and you
have a wealth of extensions such as VCS support, Mylyn Integration (to
work with remote task/issue managers), HTML editing, etc. It is a
little bloated if you are used to editors and other lightweight IDEs
though, but I can recommend it.

I haven't tried netbeans yet but I only hear good things of it so far.

As far commercial IDEs there is WingIDE and PyCharm, PyCharm is very
Django oriented right now and has very good autocompletion/code
editing tools, it may be the best option but Wing is also preparing
it's Django specific features for next release (available in beta
builds).

Regards,
Carlos Daniel Ruvalcaba Valenzuela

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 12:27 PM, bagheera  wrote:
> For python/django development i'm using... NetBeans! It fails to
> autocomplete items properly, but still, i find it most comfortable also for
> html, javaScript, CSS.
> Sometimes i use Geany, it's really simple, yet nice IDE.
> All under Linux.
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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-04 Thread bagheera
For python/django development i'm using... NetBeans! It fails to  
autocomplete items properly, but still, i find it most comfortable also  
for html, javaScript, CSS.

Sometimes i use Geany, it's really simple, yet nice IDE.
All under Linux.

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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-04 Thread Masklinn
On 2010-08-04, at 06:15 , Alexander Jeliuc wrote:
> gvim, emacs, eclipse, eric

Don't forget pycharm, whose specific Django support is one of the majorly 
pushed features.

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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-04 Thread Daniel França
I'm using Editra now, it seems fine and lightweight and have plugin support.

2010/8/4 Рогалевич (Ковалевич) 

> gedit + plugins + snippets is easier to learn than vim(gvim) and looks more
> beautiful :) , but on windows there is bad support of python plugins (if you
> really need to develop on win)
> vim may be more flexible
> Wing IDE not free. I meant version with django support
> (http://wingware.com/wingide/features)
>
>
> On 4 August 2010 07:15, Alexander Jeliuc  wrote:
>
>> gvim, emacs, eclipse, eric
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Nick Arnett wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Biju Varghese 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Eclipse is the best IDE for python and django.


>>> I don't know if it is actually the best, but I'm happy with it.
>>>
>>> Nick
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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-04 Thread Ковалевич
gedit + plugins + snippets is easier to learn than vim(gvim) and looks more
beautiful :) , but on windows there is bad support of python plugins (if you
really need to develop on win)
vim may be more flexible
Wing IDE not free. I meant version with django support
(http://wingware.com/wingide/features)

On 4 August 2010 07:15, Alexander Jeliuc  wrote:

> gvim, emacs, eclipse, eric
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Nick Arnett  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Biju Varghese wrote:
>>
>>> Eclipse is the best IDE for python and django.
>>>
>>>
>> I don't know if it is actually the best, but I'm happy with it.
>>
>> Nick
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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-03 Thread Alexander Jeliuc
gvim, emacs, eclipse, eric

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 6:50 AM, Nick Arnett  wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Biju Varghese wrote:
>
>> Eclipse is the best IDE for python and django.
>>
>>
> I don't know if it is actually the best, but I'm happy with it.
>
> Nick
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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-03 Thread Nick Arnett
On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Biju Varghese wrote:

> Eclipse is the best IDE for python and django.
>
>
I don't know if it is actually the best, but I'm happy with it.

Nick

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Re: Django IDE

2010-08-03 Thread carlos
I use Gedit, but when I get bored using the same vim

cheer

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Fabian Ezequiel Gallina  wrote:

> 2010/7/18 Roald de Vries :
> >
> > Comparison of VIM and Emacs (what I've read):
> > - Emacs is monolithic (does everything, for example includes shell), VIM
> is
> > unix style (does one thing well, why reproduce the shell?)
>
> Wrong, all it's features are in separated Emacs' Lisp modules which
> can be activated or deactivated at user's will. Emacs provides
> different kind of programs to allow user's edit text without exiting
> from Emacs, that's why it is nice to have a shell (that without
> mentioning the cool features you can develop with a shell interface).
>
> > - Emacs doesn't have different (confusing) modes, VIM doesn't leave you
> with
> > a crippled little finger (from all the 's)
>
> For me having two modes is annoying and confusing, I don't mind
> hitting modifiers to execute things but that's a personal taste, the
> good thing is that if you are a vi(m)'s keybinding dependant person
> you can activate viper-mode and Emacs will have the same keybindings
> as vi(m).
>
> > - VIM has more commands than Emacs
>
> I disagree with that. Just install Emacs, hit M-x apropos-commands and
> count them for yourself :). Emacs is a Lisp interpreter with text
> editor commands and primitives included into it. So it is a complete
> development environment for itself and the GNU/Emacs distribution
> comes with batteries-included, it supports by default languages you
> probably never heard of.
>
> > I would say Emacs makes you more productive on shorter term, VIM makes
> you
> > more productive on longer term.
> >
>
> I disagree with that too, both editors are so advanced that let you
> increase your productivity in time to limits you wouldn't imagine.
> Emacs is known to be the most extensible of both (that's its
> philosophy) so your productivity limit is your imagination, as long as
> you willing to learn some Emacs Lisp.
>
> I'm not sending this email to start a flame on Emacs and Vim. Being a
> relatively advanced Emacs user I just like to correct some points
> expressed here.
>
> And to finish I like to mention that I tried myself Vim and Emacs some
> years ago when looking for better ways to work, and I stayed with
> Emacs mainly because of two things:
>* The extension language (I like Lisp).
>* I don't like having two editing modes.
>
> Whatever you choose should be fine, it's just a matter of personal taste.
>
>
> Best Regards,
> --
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> http://www.from-the-cloud.com
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread Fabian Ezequiel Gallina
2010/7/18 Roald de Vries :
>
> Comparison of VIM and Emacs (what I've read):
> - Emacs is monolithic (does everything, for example includes shell), VIM is
> unix style (does one thing well, why reproduce the shell?)

Wrong, all it's features are in separated Emacs' Lisp modules which
can be activated or deactivated at user's will. Emacs provides
different kind of programs to allow user's edit text without exiting
from Emacs, that's why it is nice to have a shell (that without
mentioning the cool features you can develop with a shell interface).

> - Emacs doesn't have different (confusing) modes, VIM doesn't leave you with
> a crippled little finger (from all the 's)

For me having two modes is annoying and confusing, I don't mind
hitting modifiers to execute things but that's a personal taste, the
good thing is that if you are a vi(m)'s keybinding dependant person
you can activate viper-mode and Emacs will have the same keybindings
as vi(m).

> - VIM has more commands than Emacs

I disagree with that. Just install Emacs, hit M-x apropos-commands and
count them for yourself :). Emacs is a Lisp interpreter with text
editor commands and primitives included into it. So it is a complete
development environment for itself and the GNU/Emacs distribution
comes with batteries-included, it supports by default languages you
probably never heard of.

> I would say Emacs makes you more productive on shorter term, VIM makes you
> more productive on longer term.
>

I disagree with that too, both editors are so advanced that let you
increase your productivity in time to limits you wouldn't imagine.
Emacs is known to be the most extensible of both (that's its
philosophy) so your productivity limit is your imagination, as long as
you willing to learn some Emacs Lisp.

I'm not sending this email to start a flame on Emacs and Vim. Being a
relatively advanced Emacs user I just like to correct some points
expressed here.

And to finish I like to mention that I tried myself Vim and Emacs some
years ago when looking for better ways to work, and I stayed with
Emacs mainly because of two things:
* The extension language (I like Lisp).
* I don't like having two editing modes.

Whatever you choose should be fine, it's just a matter of personal taste.


Best Regards,
-- 
Fabián E. Gallina
http://www.from-the-cloud.com

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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread Tran Cao Thai
eclipse + pydev is terrible when running on Linux IMO. Everytime starting
the server, cpu runs like a horse without any reason. For me, gedit is the
best. It is light, fast and have appearance support,powerful snippet plugin,
and multi tab terminal integration. What else do you expect more to code
python / django?

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 5:50 AM, bedros <2bed...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I use komodo edit
>
> openkomodo.com
>
> Komodo Edit is free, but Komodo IDE is commercial
>
>
>
> On Jul 18, 11:22 am, Subhranath Chunder  wrote:
> > Obviously it's the user personal choice, always! :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Subhranath Chunder.
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Roald de Vries 
> wrote:
> >
> > > On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Biju Varghese wrote:
> >
> > >> Eclipse is the best IDE for python and django.
> >
> > >> On Jul 17, 8:53 pm, Jitendra Joshi 
> wrote:
> >
> > >>> What is the best open source Django IDE ?
> >
> > > I would say VIM, too. Emacs should be very good too, but I've never
> used
> > > it. Their advantage:
> > > 1) you can use them from the command line, so over SSH too, and they
> (at
> > > least VI) are available everywhere
> > > 2) they're so wide spread that there's a plug-in for almost everything
> > > 3) they're so configurable that you can write a plug-in to do anything
> you
> > > want
> > > 4) learn once, use for anything
> >
> > > Admitted, there are disadvantages: they have a learning curve,
> expecially
> > > VIM, but once you know how to use them, they increase your productivity
> a
> > > lot.
> >
> > > Features:
> > > - autocompletion
> > > - very very very strong search and replace
> > > - macro's
> > > - configurable key bindings/commands
> >
> > > Comparison of VIM and Emacs (what I've read):
> > > - Emacs is monolithic (does everything, for example includes shell),
> VIM is
> > > unix style (does one thing well, why reproduce the shell?)
> > > - The unix cli uses Emacs key bindings (but VI bindings are optional)
> > > - Emacs doesn't have different (confusing) modes, VIM doesn't leave you
> > > with a crippled little finger (from all the 's)
> > > - VIM has more commands than Emacs
> >
> > > I would say Emacs makes you more productive on shorter term, VIM makes
> you
> > > more productive on longer term.
> >
> > > Cheers, Roald
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread bedros
I use komodo edit

openkomodo.com

Komodo Edit is free, but Komodo IDE is commercial



On Jul 18, 11:22 am, Subhranath Chunder  wrote:
> Obviously it's the user personal choice, always! :)
>
> Thanks,
> Subhranath Chunder.
>
> On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Roald de Vries  wrote:
>
> > On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Biju Varghese wrote:
>
> >> Eclipse is the best IDE for python and django.
>
> >> On Jul 17, 8:53 pm, Jitendra Joshi  wrote:
>
> >>> What is the best open source Django IDE ?
>
> > I would say VIM, too. Emacs should be very good too, but I've never used
> > it. Their advantage:
> > 1) you can use them from the command line, so over SSH too, and they (at
> > least VI) are available everywhere
> > 2) they're so wide spread that there's a plug-in for almost everything
> > 3) they're so configurable that you can write a plug-in to do anything you
> > want
> > 4) learn once, use for anything
>
> > Admitted, there are disadvantages: they have a learning curve, expecially
> > VIM, but once you know how to use them, they increase your productivity a
> > lot.
>
> > Features:
> > - autocompletion
> > - very very very strong search and replace
> > - macro's
> > - configurable key bindings/commands
>
> > Comparison of VIM and Emacs (what I've read):
> > - Emacs is monolithic (does everything, for example includes shell), VIM is
> > unix style (does one thing well, why reproduce the shell?)
> > - The unix cli uses Emacs key bindings (but VI bindings are optional)
> > - Emacs doesn't have different (confusing) modes, VIM doesn't leave you
> > with a crippled little finger (from all the 's)
> > - VIM has more commands than Emacs
>
> > I would say Emacs makes you more productive on shorter term, VIM makes you
> > more productive on longer term.
>
> > Cheers, Roald
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread Subhranath Chunder
Obviously it's the user personal choice, always! :)

Thanks,
Subhranath Chunder.

On Sun, Jul 18, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Roald de Vries  wrote:

> On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Biju Varghese wrote:
>
>> Eclipse is the best IDE for python and django.
>>
>> On Jul 17, 8:53 pm, Jitendra Joshi  wrote:
>>
>>> What is the best open source Django IDE ?
>>>
>>
> I would say VIM, too. Emacs should be very good too, but I've never used
> it. Their advantage:
> 1) you can use them from the command line, so over SSH too, and they (at
> least VI) are available everywhere
> 2) they're so wide spread that there's a plug-in for almost everything
> 3) they're so configurable that you can write a plug-in to do anything you
> want
> 4) learn once, use for anything
>
> Admitted, there are disadvantages: they have a learning curve, expecially
> VIM, but once you know how to use them, they increase your productivity a
> lot.
>
> Features:
> - autocompletion
> - very very very strong search and replace
> - macro's
> - configurable key bindings/commands
>
> Comparison of VIM and Emacs (what I've read):
> - Emacs is monolithic (does everything, for example includes shell), VIM is
> unix style (does one thing well, why reproduce the shell?)
> - The unix cli uses Emacs key bindings (but VI bindings are optional)
> - Emacs doesn't have different (confusing) modes, VIM doesn't leave you
> with a crippled little finger (from all the 's)
> - VIM has more commands than Emacs
>
> I would say Emacs makes you more productive on shorter term, VIM makes you
> more productive on longer term.
>
> Cheers, Roald
>
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread Roald de Vries

On Jul 18, 2010, at 7:19 PM, Biju Varghese wrote:

Eclipse is the best IDE for python and django.

On Jul 17, 8:53 pm, Jitendra Joshi  wrote:

What is the best open source Django IDE ?


I would say VIM, too. Emacs should be very good too, but I've never  
used it. Their advantage:
1) you can use them from the command line, so over SSH too, and they  
(at least VI) are available everywhere

2) they're so wide spread that there's a plug-in for almost everything
3) they're so configurable that you can write a plug-in to do anything  
you want

4) learn once, use for anything

Admitted, there are disadvantages: they have a learning curve,  
expecially VIM, but once you know how to use them, they increase your  
productivity a lot.


Features:
- autocompletion
- very very very strong search and replace
- macro's
- configurable key bindings/commands

Comparison of VIM and Emacs (what I've read):
- Emacs is monolithic (does everything, for example includes shell),  
VIM is unix style (does one thing well, why reproduce the shell?)

- The unix cli uses Emacs key bindings (but VI bindings are optional)
- Emacs doesn't have different (confusing) modes, VIM doesn't leave  
you with a crippled little finger (from all the 's)

- VIM has more commands than Emacs

I would say Emacs makes you more productive on shorter term, VIM makes  
you more productive on longer term.


Cheers, Roald

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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread Masklinn
On 2010-07-18, at 19:19 , Biju Varghese wrote:
> Eclipse is the best IDE for python and django.
No.

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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread Biju Varghese
Eclipse is the best IDE for python and django.

On Jul 17, 8:53 pm, Jitendra Joshi  wrote:
> What is the best open source Django IDE ?

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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread roberto
Cross platform, I like editra but I think it still needs some more
maturity. It is coded with python.
Ulipad is also developed using python.
Pycharm is nice too but you have to pay for it as soon as testing
period is over.
Netbeans is great but big memory consumer and coded with java. It also
has built-in sql database navigator.
For mac, Coda is sweet.


On Jul 18, 9:47 am, Gonzalo Delgado  wrote:
> El 18/07/10 06:09, Antoni Aloy escribi :> Actually the best productive "IDE" 
> for me, and I'd like to remark the
> > for me, is Vim/gVim with lots of plugins.
>
> For me too, this link is 
> useful:http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/UsingVimWithDjango
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread roberto
pycharm is not open-source


On Jul 18, 6:32 am, Masklinn  wrote:
> PyCharm
>
> On 2010-07-18, at 11:06 , tayfur yilmaz wrote:
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> > wing ide.
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> > 2010/7/18 河边的汉子 
>
> >> pydev eric ulipad……
>
> >> 2010/7/18 Juan Hernandez 
>
> >> google: "django ide"
>
> >>> :)
>
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>
>  find them, use them and you will know the best
>
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread Gonzalo Delgado
El 18/07/10 06:09, Antoni Aloy escribió:
> Actually the best productive "IDE" for me, and I'd like to remark the
> for me, is Vim/gVim with lots of plugins.
For me too, this link is useful:
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread Masklinn
PyCharm

On 2010-07-18, at 11:06 , tayfur yilmaz wrote:
> wing ide.
> 
> 2010/7/18 河边的汉子 
> 
>> pydev eric ulipad……
>> 
>> 2010/7/18 Juan Hernandez 
>> 
>> google: "django ide"
>>> 
>>> :)
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> jasonvoorhees...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
 find them, use them and you will know the best
 
 
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread Antoni Aloy
Actually the best productive "IDE" for me, and I'd like to remark the
for me, is Vim/gVim with lots of plugins. I mantein my .vimrc and
plugins in http://code.google.com/p/trespams-vim/ if you wan't to see
how it looks.

Vim takes longer to master, in fact you can learn something new each
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread tayfur yilmaz
wing ide.

2010/7/18 河边的汉子 

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>
> 2010/7/18 Juan Hernandez 
>
> google: "django ide"
>>
>> :)
>>
>>
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread 河边的汉子
pydev eric ulipad……

2010/7/18 Juan Hernandez 

> google: "django ide"
>
> :)
>
>
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>>
>>
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-18 Thread Kenneth Gonsalves
On Saturday 17 July 2010 21:23:03 Jitendra Joshi wrote:
> What is the best open source Django IDE ?
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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-17 Thread Juan Hernandez
google: "django ide"

:)

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Re: Django IDE

2010-07-17 Thread Tran Cao Thai
find them, use them and you will know the best

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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-17 Thread Mike Dewhirst

On 18/02/2010 9:38am, Jacek Furmankiewicz wrote:

We've had fairly good experience with Eclipse and the PyDev plugins
for it. Gives you even refactoring, which came in handy a few times.



I tried it and liked that but couldn't stick with it. My problem was 
integrating subversion in a seamless way. It all became too heavy and 
was really distracting me from actual programming. I went back to a nice 
editor and manual refactoring. It feels much more nimble.


ymmv

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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-17 Thread Wolf Halton
Are there any how-to articles about using eclipse and python for beginners?

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We've had fairly good experience with Eclipse and the PyDev plugins
for it. Gives you even refactoring, which came in handy a few times.


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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-17 Thread Jacek Furmankiewicz
We've had fairly good experience with Eclipse and the PyDev plugins
for it. Gives you even refactoring, which came in handy a few times.

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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread Dan Ostrowski
Thanks for the recommendation of PyCharm, Joe.  Jetbrains products are
excellent and I've had a lot of luck with their "other" foray into
targeted web framework IDEs: RubyMine. I'm definitely going to give
PyCharm a go and I'd +1 any Jetbrains products.

Cheers,
Dan

On Feb 15, 7:40 am, Joe Kueser  wrote:
> If you don't mind the horrors of beta software, I'd highly recommend
> PyCharm.  It's JetBrain's latest IDE, which is growing up to be Python
> and Django-specific.  It's still a little rough at this point, but
> usable, especially if you are using the Django default structure,
> etc.  The 1.0 version isn't due out for several months, but I
> definitely like what I see so far.
>
> http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/index.html
>
> Joe
>
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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread Joe Kueser
If you don't mind the horrors of beta software, I'd highly recommend
PyCharm.  It's JetBrain's latest IDE, which is growing up to be Python
and Django-specific.  It's still a little rough at this point, but
usable, especially if you are using the Django default structure,
etc.  The 1.0 version isn't due out for several months, but I
definitely like what I see so far.

http://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/index.html

Joe

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Re: Django IDE

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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread Massimiliano Bertinetti
I have the professional (since I use for work).

But if you want to create an open source project you can ask for a
license for free.

See their site for more info.

Max-B

Il giorno lun, 15/02/2010 alle 23.34 +1100, Tran Cao Thai ha scritto:
> i used to use wingware for a while. It 's cool, fast but not free (i
> used the trial version). Stick with Eclipse + pydev for a while also.
> IMO, it 's the best, however, eclipse is always slow (because it 's a
> java application), and don't have the integrated terminal ( i know
> that there are some plugins for the terminal but don't want to spend
> much time on that). Currently, i go back to my favourite one: Geany
> which doesn't have many plugins but very fast and free also
> 
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:46 PM, bruno desthuilliers
>  wrote:
> On Feb 15, 11:18 am, rebus_  wrote:
> (snip)
> > But as Bruno pointed out, any decent code editor will do,
> just a
> > matter of preference.
> 
> 
> Well, the point is that Django is about web programming, which
> usually
> imply using quite a few languages - html + whatever template
> system,
> javascript, css, quite often bits of SQL, the usual
> config-file
> formats, probably some shell scripting here and there, and (of
> course)
> a server-side language - in this case Python, but as far as
> I'm
> concerned (and I bet most web programmers will have this
> pattern) I
> often have to deal with PHP or other scripting languages. Also
> and
> FWIW, I also have to maintain Python apps based on other
> frameworks
> (mostly Zope/Plone to my regret). Not talking about the bits
> and
> pieces of C or other lower level languages...
> 
> Having to learn a distinct "IDE" for each and any possible
> text
> format / language / framework / combination of...  would be
> rather
> tedious. I find it better to master one good code editor that
> handle
> them all. My editor of choice happens to be Emacs, but there's
> no
> shortage of good code editors to choose from.
> 
> My 2 cents...
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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread Massimiliano Bertinetti
WingIDE, EricIDE

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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread Andrew Davison
Komodo is a very nice IDE for dynamic languages in general, so can be
used for both Python and Javascript, for example. It also has syntax
highlighting, autocomplete, etc. for the Django template language. The
full version costs a couple of hundred euros, but there is a very
useable free version, Komodo Edit (http://www.activestate.com/
komodo_edit/), which, of the features I use in the full version, is
only missing the regexp tool and the code navigation tool. It also
offers vi emulation and emacs key-bindings.

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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread Abdel Bolaños Martí­nez
I have got good results with Eclipse + Pydev pluging + Aptana and 
working on Ubuntu GNU/Linux or Centos (RedHat)




Mike Ramirez wrote:

On Sunday 14 February 2010 20:59:22 dj_vishal wrote:
  

Hello

   Hi to all am new to the Django Framework.am learning django
   Which IDE is suitable for Django ..plz help me in right way

   Thanks in Advance
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eric4 has a nice django plugin that you might like...

http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/

It's mainly for pyqt but the django plugin works as expected.
  



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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread Tran Cao Thai
i used to use wingware for a while. It 's cool, fast but not free (i used
the trial version). Stick with Eclipse + pydev for a while also. IMO, it 's
the best, however, eclipse is always slow (because it 's a java
application), and don't have the integrated terminal ( i know that there are
some plugins for the terminal but don't want to spend much time on that).
Currently, i go back to my favourite one: Geany which doesn't have many
plugins but very fast and free also

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 10:46 PM, bruno desthuilliers <
bruno.desthuilli...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 15, 11:18 am, rebus_  wrote:
> (snip)
> > But as Bruno pointed out, any decent code editor will do, just a
> > matter of preference.
>
> Well, the point is that Django is about web programming, which usually
> imply using quite a few languages - html + whatever template system,
> javascript, css, quite often bits of SQL, the usual config-file
> formats, probably some shell scripting here and there, and (of course)
> a server-side language - in this case Python, but as far as I'm
> concerned (and I bet most web programmers will have this pattern) I
> often have to deal with PHP or other scripting languages. Also and
> FWIW, I also have to maintain Python apps based on other frameworks
> (mostly Zope/Plone to my regret). Not talking about the bits and
> pieces of C or other lower level languages...
>
> Having to learn a distinct "IDE" for each and any possible text
> format / language / framework / combination of...  would be rather
> tedious. I find it better to master one good code editor that handle
> them all. My editor of choice happens to be Emacs, but there's no
> shortage of good code editors to choose from.
>
> My 2 cents...
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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread bruno desthuilliers
On Feb 15, 11:18 am, rebus_  wrote:
(snip)
> But as Bruno pointed out, any decent code editor will do, just a
> matter of preference.

Well, the point is that Django is about web programming, which usually
imply using quite a few languages - html + whatever template system,
javascript, css, quite often bits of SQL, the usual config-file
formats, probably some shell scripting here and there, and (of course)
a server-side language - in this case Python, but as far as I'm
concerned (and I bet most web programmers will have this pattern) I
often have to deal with PHP or other scripting languages. Also and
FWIW, I also have to maintain Python apps based on other frameworks
(mostly Zope/Plone to my regret). Not talking about the bits and
pieces of C or other lower level languages...

Having to learn a distinct "IDE" for each and any possible text
format / language / framework / combination of...  would be rather
tedious. I find it better to master one good code editor that handle
them all. My editor of choice happens to be Emacs, but there's no
shortage of good code editors to choose from.

My 2 cents...

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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread Шей
Real IDE fo Python/Django - Netbeans and Eclipse with Python plugins. But
IMHO it's overhead.

Use any text editor. Vim with python support is good.

WingIDE has good python support, but it's UI that is written in XUL anyoing
me, so I use Netbeans / Vim depending on task I have.

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Anton Bessonov wrote:

> http://www.vim.org/
>
> dj_vishal schrieb:
>
>  Hello
>>
>>   Hi to all am new to the Django Framework.am learning django
>>   Which IDE is suitable for Django ..plz help me in right way
>>
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>>   2009vis...@gmail.com
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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread Steven Elliott Jr
TextMate! 

On Feb 15, 2010, at 5:45 AM, Anton Bessonov wrote:

> http://www.vim.org/
> 
> dj_vishal schrieb:
>> Hello
>> 
>>   Hi to all am new to the Django Framework.am learning django
>>   Which IDE is suitable for Django ..plz help me in right way
>> 
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>>   2009vis...@gmail.com
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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread Anton Bessonov

http://www.vim.org/

dj_vishal schrieb:

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   Which IDE is suitable for Django ..plz help me in right way

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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread rebus_
On 15 February 2010 10:29, bruno desthuilliers
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> On Feb 15, 5:59 am, dj_vishal <2009vis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>>    Hi to all am new to the Django Framework.am learning django
>>    Which IDE is suitable for Django ..plz help me in right way
>
> IDE ??? What's that ?-)
>
> More seriously : any decent code editor will do.
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I find WingIDE to be a really cool thingy.

http://www.wingware.com/

But as Bruno pointed out, any decent code editor will do, just a
matter of preference.

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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-15 Thread bruno desthuilliers
On Feb 15, 5:59 am, dj_vishal <2009vis...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
>    Hi to all am new to the Django Framework.am learning django
>    Which IDE is suitable for Django ..plz help me in right way

IDE ??? What's that ?-)

More seriously : any decent code editor will do.

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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-14 Thread Mike Ramirez
On Sunday 14 February 2010 20:59:22 dj_vishal wrote:
> Hello
> 
>Hi to all am new to the Django Framework.am learning django
>Which IDE is suitable for Django ..plz help me in right way
> 
>Thanks in Advance
>vishal
>2009vis...@gmail.com
> 

eric4 has a nice django plugin that you might like...

http://eric-ide.python-projects.org/

It's mainly for pyqt but the django plugin works as expected.
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Re: Django IDE

2010-02-14 Thread Skylar Saveland
This might be the wrong way to help you if you want something super-
gui-fabulous.  But, I have a dusty old project that is not gaining any
traction to make a nice IDE out of vim.  If you don't know/like vim
and have no desire to learn then I might just be wasting your time.

http://github.com/skyl/vim-config-python-ide

I use something pretty close to the supertab branch myself.  vim
config is kind of a personal thing though.  So is an IDE.  There  are
lots of answers on stack overflow that will tell you eclipse with
pydev.  Many people use textmate, emacs and even some prominent people
are using gedit?

To go farther than just an editor, I just use the gnu-linux command
line with git/hg and ipython for debugging and bpython as the shell.
I like small tools that do one thing well.

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Re: Django IDE

2007-04-07 Thread Ian

Greg:  Command-` from within X application.

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> On 4/5/07, John Goodleaf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Wing IDE.
>
> It looks really nice but then I discovered I would have to run an
> Xserver to run it on my Mac.  That's not a huge problem except I can't
> alt-tab to and from apps that run under an Xserver.  At least I've
> never found a way and I've looked many times.  :(
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Re: Django IDE

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> Wing IDE.

It looks really nice but then I discovered I would have to run an
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RE: Django IDE

2007-04-05 Thread John Goodleaf

Wing IDE.

I'll second that recommendation. I have both Komodo 4 and Wing at work.
I use Wing pretty much exclusively. From a purely aesthetic standpoint,
Komodo 4 is somewhat "cleaner" looking, but otherwise I think Wing is
stronger. In addition to mentioned debugger, Wing does a very nice job
with autocompletion and project management. Good integration with SVN.
Key bindings can be made to mimic Emacs (or vi or Visual Studio).
Moreover, the support is excellent and the Wing developers are present
and responsive on the company's mailing list.
J

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From: django-users@googlegroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of BrandonC
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 8:43 AM
To: Django users
Subject: Re: Django IDE


As a comparison I have to say that Wing IDE has a very nice Python
debugger (fast and it works).  I haven't used Komodo in a while but I
remember my biggest issue with it was that its debugger stopped at
exceptions that truely were handled, and that it was slow.

For django I set my manage.py file as the main debug file, and then add
--noreload --settings=devsettings (my settings for running a test
server) in the debug run arguments and I can run the dev. server locally
to debug.

There may be better editors I don't know, but I find that I'm always
comparing them to what I can do in Wing.

Brandon




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Re: Django IDE

2007-04-05 Thread gordyt

Zeb I'm using Komodo 4.0.2 now and it is a big improvement over 3.x.

--gordy

On Apr 4, 10:20 pm, "ZebZiggle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been using it for a couple of years now. I'm still using 3.x,
> can't comment on 4.x. The debugging is pretty bad and doesn't really
> work as advertised, but the editor is solid (can run into resource
> leaks on low mem computers). The browser is good, the project mgmt is
> good. Overall, I'm happy with it, but if something better came around
> I would switch (overpriced for the stability and the support you get).
> If I was just doing python lib stuff it would be better, but for
> django related work it's just an editor.


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Re: Django IDE

2007-04-05 Thread BrandonC

As a comparison I have to say that Wing IDE has a very nice Python
debugger (fast and it works).  I haven't used Komodo in a while but I
remember my biggest issue with it was that its debugger stopped at
exceptions that truely were handled, and that it was slow.

For django I set my manage.py file as the main debug file, and then
add --noreload --settings=devsettings (my settings for running a test
server) in the debug run arguments and I can run the dev. server
locally to debug.

There may be better editors I don't know, but I find that I'm always
comparing them to what I can do in Wing.

Brandon


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Re: Django IDE

2007-04-04 Thread ZebZiggle

I've been using it for a couple of years now. I'm still using 3.x,
can't comment on 4.x. The debugging is pretty bad and doesn't really
work as advertised, but the editor is solid (can run into resource
leaks on low mem computers). The browser is good, the project mgmt is
good. Overall, I'm happy with it, but if something better came around
I would switch (overpriced for the stability and the support you get).
If I was just doing python lib stuff it would be better, but for
django related work it's just an editor.


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Re: Django IDE

2007-04-04 Thread grahamu

Sure, works great. My favorite (and perhaps most useful) feature is
debugging a Django app and stepping through both my code and the
Django code to find out what is happening.
Graham

On Apr 4, 6:56 pm, "Richard Blumberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Has anyone had any experience using Komodo as an IDE for Django development?
>
> Thanks.


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Re: django / IDE integration

2006-05-11 Thread jelle

Thanks for clearing that up Luke!


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