Re: r500 - where to start?
> I found a couple of things but i am not familiar enought with modesetting, > so i am taking time to understand all this. We may need to start somethings > similar to nouveau to bring more attention and more people on this. I fear > that most current dri dev can't work on this due to NDA or lack of time. I agree that a project like nouveau for radeon-cards would be great. I for one, as stated earlier, know nothing about driver development. However I'm willing to learn a lot and I will use my card to spy on to provide information. The reason I started this thread was to get attention to the matter and I really like the response so far, creating a project would hopefully boost this further, but I'm not sure I'm the right person to start such a project, I hope that someone on this list with a little more knowledge could take the lead, and I'll be happy to back up with whatever I can. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: r500 - where to start?
> Might it be an idea to collect these tools on a single page? Definitely! So I hacked it up at: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ReverseEngineering Maybe everything is wrong. Maybe it helps. I have no idea. I never used with any of these. Regards, Christoph Brill - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: r500 - where to start?
Ah, I figured almost everything except where to get that adress from, I'll try it out and see if I can catch anything useful. 2007/1/8, Jerome Glisse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 1/8/07, Magnus Ahlberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From limited informations we got on those chips we miss the 2D > > > video mode setup. Basicly you need to spy bios/vbe try using > > > a tools such as mjg59/airlied vbe, you might also want to spy > > > fglrx maybe libsegfault can help you people.freedesktop.org/~glisse/ > > > > I got libsegfault but I haven't quite been able to figure out how to > > use it, I'm not at all experienced with graphics drivers or the way > > Xorg works with drivers. However, I'm hoping that I can be of some > > assistance by using some of theese tools to provide information to > > other, more experienced developers. I have tried to find the bios > > spying software you described but I can't seem to find them, could you > > please provide a link on where to download them? > > I thought i put a little readme in the archive. The idea here is > to set SF_ADDR env variable to your mmio address (get it > using lspci for example if you got: > > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon > X600 (PCIE)] (prog-if 00 [VGA]) > Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 0f02 > Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 169 > Memory at f000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] > Memory at fe9e (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] > I/O ports at dc00 [size=256] > Expansion ROM at fea0 [disabled] [size=128K] > Capabilities: > $export SF_ADDR=0xfe9e > then > $LD_PRELOAD=/pathto/libsegfault.so Xorg > dump 2>&1 > with xorg.conf configured to use fglrx driver. > > For the video bios spying tools: > http://people.freedesktop.org/~airlied/xresprobe-mjg59-0.4.21.tar.gz > > > > I am myself planning to take a look into that matter in the > > > few coming days. Maybe i will got somethings in couple of > > > day. > > > > Have you had the time to look at it, and if so, did you figure anything out? > > I found a couple of things but i am not familiar enought with modesetting, > so i am taking time to understand all this. We may need to start somethings > similar to nouveau to bring more attention and more people on this. I fear > that most current dri dev can't work on this due to NDA or lack of time. > > best, > Jerome Glisse > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: r500 - where to start?
Tilman Sauerbeck wrote: > Jerome Glisse [2006-12-23 23:23]: >> On 12/23/06, Magnus Ahlberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I know that there has been some discussion about the r500 chip and how >>> tough it will be to create a working driver for it. However, I for one >>> would love to see an open alternative to the fglrx and I want to know, >>> where to start? I own a laptop with a X1600 mobility radeon card. >>> >>> The current status of the radeon driver is that xorg bails out with >>> "no devices found". >>> Is there any possibility to make the radeon driver to recognize my >>> video card and at least try to initialize it? Where do I start? Are >>> there any tools I can run or anything that will help a more >>> experienced developer to point me in the right direction? >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >> >From limited informations we got on those chips we miss the 2D >> video mode setup. Basicly you need to spy bios/vbe try using >> a tools such as mjg59/airlied vbe, you might also want to spy >> fglrx maybe libsegfault can help you people.freedesktop.org/~glisse/ > > Just for the record, there's also airlied's valgrind-mmt that tracks > MMIO register writes: http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied/patches/valgrind/ > > If that's not enough, I extended it and implemented support for tracking > writes to write-only registers (and other stuff): > http://code-monkey.de/articles/2007/01/08/hacking-up-valgrind-mmt > Might it be an idea to collect these tools on a single page? Rune Petersen - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: r500 - where to start?
Jerome Glisse [2006-12-23 23:23]: > On 12/23/06, Magnus Ahlberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know that there has been some discussion about the r500 chip and how > > tough it will be to create a working driver for it. However, I for one > > would love to see an open alternative to the fglrx and I want to know, > > where to start? I own a laptop with a X1600 mobility radeon card. > > > > The current status of the radeon driver is that xorg bails out with > > "no devices found". > > Is there any possibility to make the radeon driver to recognize my > > video card and at least try to initialize it? Where do I start? Are > > there any tools I can run or anything that will help a more > > experienced developer to point me in the right direction? > > > > Cheers. > > > > >From limited informations we got on those chips we miss the 2D > video mode setup. Basicly you need to spy bios/vbe try using > a tools such as mjg59/airlied vbe, you might also want to spy > fglrx maybe libsegfault can help you people.freedesktop.org/~glisse/ Just for the record, there's also airlied's valgrind-mmt that tracks MMIO register writes: http://www.skynet.ie/~airlied/patches/valgrind/ If that's not enough, I extended it and implemented support for tracking writes to write-only registers (and other stuff): http://code-monkey.de/articles/2007/01/08/hacking-up-valgrind-mmt Regards, Tilman -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? pgppohr38KQSG.pgp Description: PGP signature - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: r500 - where to start?
On 1/8/07, Magnus Ahlberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From limited informations we got on those chips we miss the 2D > > video mode setup. Basicly you need to spy bios/vbe try using > > a tools such as mjg59/airlied vbe, you might also want to spy > > fglrx maybe libsegfault can help you people.freedesktop.org/~glisse/ > > I got libsegfault but I haven't quite been able to figure out how to > use it, I'm not at all experienced with graphics drivers or the way > Xorg works with drivers. However, I'm hoping that I can be of some > assistance by using some of theese tools to provide information to > other, more experienced developers. I have tried to find the bios > spying software you described but I can't seem to find them, could you > please provide a link on where to download them? I thought i put a little readme in the archive. The idea here is to set SF_ADDR env variable to your mmio address (get it using lspci for example if you got: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)] (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc Unknown device 0f02 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 169 Memory at f000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Memory at fe9e (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K] I/O ports at dc00 [size=256] Expansion ROM at fea0 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: $export SF_ADDR=0xfe9e then $LD_PRELOAD=/pathto/libsegfault.so Xorg > dump 2>&1 with xorg.conf configured to use fglrx driver. For the video bios spying tools: http://people.freedesktop.org/~airlied/xresprobe-mjg59-0.4.21.tar.gz > > I am myself planning to take a look into that matter in the > > few coming days. Maybe i will got somethings in couple of > > day. > > Have you had the time to look at it, and if so, did you figure anything out? I found a couple of things but i am not familiar enought with modesetting, so i am taking time to understand all this. We may need to start somethings similar to nouveau to bring more attention and more people on this. I fear that most current dri dev can't work on this due to NDA or lack of time. best, Jerome Glisse - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: r500 - where to start?
> From limited informations we got on those chips we miss the 2D > video mode setup. Basicly you need to spy bios/vbe try using > a tools such as mjg59/airlied vbe, you might also want to spy > fglrx maybe libsegfault can help you people.freedesktop.org/~glisse/ I got libsegfault but I haven't quite been able to figure out how to use it, I'm not at all experienced with graphics drivers or the way Xorg works with drivers. However, I'm hoping that I can be of some assistance by using some of theese tools to provide information to other, more experienced developers. I have tried to find the bios spying software you described but I can't seem to find them, could you please provide a link on where to download them? > I am myself planning to take a look into that matter in the > few coming days. Maybe i will got somethings in couple of > day. Have you had the time to look at it, and if so, did you figure anything out? /Cheers - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: r500 - where to start?
Yes I read that one and I really hope that he will be able to release his code, however, if we could get started without depending on ATI's cooperation that would be great. I've downloaded the libsegfaulttool and I'm going to check it out and see if I can get something useful out of it in the next few days. Merry Christmas everyone, I hope that you have a great holiday together with your family and friends. 2006/12/24, GhePeU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Il giorno sab, 23/12/2006 alle 20.23 +0100, Magnus Ahlberg ha scritto: > > I know that there has been some discussion about the r500 chip and how > > tough it will be to create a working driver for it. However, I for one > > would love to see an open alternative to the fglrx and I want to know, > > where to start? I own a laptop with a X1600 mobility radeon card. > > > > The current status of the radeon driver is that xorg bails out with > > "no devices found". > > Is there any possibility to make the radeon driver to recognize my > > video card and at least try to initialize it? Where do I start? Are > > there any tools I can run or anything that will help a more > > experienced developer to point me in the right direction? > > > > Cheers. > > > > Did you read http://airlied.livejournal.com/31180.html? I don't know > what happened later, but I suppose that ATI/AMD didn't answer in the > last 5 months. > > ghepeu > > - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: r500 - where to start?
Il giorno sab, 23/12/2006 alle 20.23 +0100, Magnus Ahlberg ha scritto: > I know that there has been some discussion about the r500 chip and how > tough it will be to create a working driver for it. However, I for one > would love to see an open alternative to the fglrx and I want to know, > where to start? I own a laptop with a X1600 mobility radeon card. > > The current status of the radeon driver is that xorg bails out with > "no devices found". > Is there any possibility to make the radeon driver to recognize my > video card and at least try to initialize it? Where do I start? Are > there any tools I can run or anything that will help a more > experienced developer to point me in the right direction? > > Cheers. > Did you read http://airlied.livejournal.com/31180.html? I don't know what happened later, but I suppose that ATI/AMD didn't answer in the last 5 months. ghepeu - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: r500 - where to start?
On Saturday 23 December 2006 14:23, Jerome Glisse wrote: > On 12/23/06, Magnus Ahlberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know that there has been some discussion about the r500 chip and how > > tough it will be to create a working driver for it. However, I for one > > would love to see an open alternative to the fglrx and I want to know, > > where to start? I own a laptop with a X1600 mobility radeon card. > I am myself planning to take a look into that matter in the > few coming days. Maybe i will got somethings in couple of > day. I started looking at the xorg ati driver as well. Here are a few of my ideas/comments: Need to work the current driver to bypass pre 520 mode and 3d. Not sure about 2d. Finding and using the mode registers don't seem to be a big problem. Just need to do it. The I2C interface has been replaced with a byte based state machine (i.e. no more bit banging). - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: r500 - where to start?
On 12/23/06, Magnus Ahlberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know that there has been some discussion about the r500 chip and how > tough it will be to create a working driver for it. However, I for one > would love to see an open alternative to the fglrx and I want to know, > where to start? I own a laptop with a X1600 mobility radeon card. > > The current status of the radeon driver is that xorg bails out with > "no devices found". > Is there any possibility to make the radeon driver to recognize my > video card and at least try to initialize it? Where do I start? Are > there any tools I can run or anything that will help a more > experienced developer to point me in the right direction? > > Cheers. > >From limited informations we got on those chips we miss the 2D video mode setup. Basicly you need to spy bios/vbe try using a tools such as mjg59/airlied vbe, you might also want to spy fglrx maybe libsegfault can help you people.freedesktop.org/~glisse/ I am myself planning to take a look into that matter in the few coming days. Maybe i will got somethings in couple of day. best, Jerome Glisse - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
r500 - where to start?
I know that there has been some discussion about the r500 chip and how tough it will be to create a working driver for it. However, I for one would love to see an open alternative to the fglrx and I want to know, where to start? I own a laptop with a X1600 mobility radeon card. The current status of the radeon driver is that xorg bails out with "no devices found". Is there any possibility to make the radeon driver to recognize my video card and at least try to initialize it? Where do I start? Are there any tools I can run or anything that will help a more experienced developer to point me in the right direction? Cheers. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys - and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Re: Where to start?
Anna Lissa Cruz wrote: > Hi all, > > I just signed onto the list. I'm working with Rudi Cilibrasi and > wondering where's the best place to start contributing. We're both C > programmers, with some OpenGL experience, and have NV35 and NV36 cards > to play with. We have checked out the feature matrix, and see there > are a couple of TODOs and a few WIPs. Should we just pick a TODO? Or > perhaps there's a WIP we can cut our teeth on? Hello First of all, I would advise going through existing development, to get a feel of what's done and what's left. There's quite a bit of reading about past development on the wiki. Next, we have a TODO list here : http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ToDo Feel free to pick an item you want. If you have issues figuring how to get there, or wonder how hard implementing a speficic feature is, just drop by on irc.freenode.net channel #nouveau and ask "what's the way to implementing feature X ?" Stephane - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 -- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
Where to start?
Hi all,I just signed onto the list. I'm working with Rudi Cilibrasi and wondering where's the best place to start contributing. We're both C programmers, with some OpenGL experience, and have NV35 and NV36 cards to play with. We have checked out the feature matrix, and see there are a couple of TODOs and a few WIPs. Should we just pick a TODO? Or perhaps there's a WIP we can cut our teeth on?Cheers,Anna Lissa- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642-- ___ Dri-devel mailing list Dri-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dri-devel
