Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
Thanks for all your comments. I think what I am going to do is buy either another v8000 (that is what I have in the other pickup) or a 2200 without the digital board for the little pickup then get an 880 for a base station when we get moved this summer. -- Don Bowen KI6DIU http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
Don't do it! The 2200 with the DV card in it is still brain dead. Just a handful of channels. Save your money and buy the 880! Or plan to end up selling the 2200! 73, Tom n4zpt On 2/13/2010 10:23 AM, Don Bowen wrote: I am trying to decide between the Icom 2200H or the Icom 880. The 2200 is a single band and needs the digital board for D-Star. The 880 is a dual band and comes D-Star ready. The 2200 goes for around $150 and the digital board is about $200 for a total under $400 while the 880 goes for around $500. My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. Thoughts, comments?
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Don Bowen wrote: I am trying to decide between the Icom 2200H or the Icom 880. The 2200 is a single band and needs the digital board for D-Star. The 880 is a dual band and comes D-Star ready. The 2200 goes for around $150 and the digital board is about $200 for a total under $400 while the 880 goes for around $500. My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. Thoughts, comments? Don, Hands down the 880. Usability is much higher. Also the recommendation to look for a used ID-800H is a good one too, if you're on a budget. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech.com facebook.com/denverpilot twitter.com/denverpilot
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
There has been some reall good comments in here that pretty much cover everything. One thing to remember. the 800 and 880 are DSTAR READY The 2200 is DSTAR CAPABLE... big difference in programming. I started with the 2200, then bought a used 800... Huge difference in being able to understand the way DSTAR works I am very good with computers and programming electronics, but that 2200 is enough to confuse even me. I will concur with the others Spend the few extra bucks, get a DSTAR READY radio, but you will also be getting both bands, not just one. You will enjoy DSRTAR so much more. Gary J Miller K4GJM Think Positive, BE Positive From: Don Bowen don.bo...@earthlink.net To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 13, 2010 10:23:59 AM Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880 I am trying to decide between the Icom 2200H or the Icom 880. The 2200 is a single band and needs the digital board for D-Star. The 880 is a dual band and comes D-Star ready. The 2200 goes for around $150 and the digital board is about $200 for a total under $400 while the 880 goes for around $500. My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. Thoughts, comments? -- Don Bowen KI6DIU http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
I can only add this...I have an 880 and love it. It has one of the best receivers of any 2 meter / 440 rig I have. You won't be sorry you spent more $$$. __ Michael Murphy - KD8OK kd...@yahoo.com __ From: Nate Duehr n...@natetech.com To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 7:10:25 AM Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880 On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Don Bowen wrote: I am trying to decide between the Icom 2200H or the Icom 880. The 2200 is a single band and needs the digital board for D-Star. The 880 is a dual band and comes D-Star ready. The 2200 goes for around $150 and the digital board is about $200 for a total under $400 while the 880 goes for around $500. My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. Thoughts, comments? Don, Hands down the 880. Usability is much higher. Also the recommendation to look for a used ID-800H is a good one too, if you're on a budget. -- Nate Duehr, WY0X n...@natetech. com facebook.com/ denverpilot twitter.com/ denverpilot
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
The 880 has free programing software. And is 3rd generation Dstar. Kent KQ4KK On Feb 13, 2010, at 10:23, Don Bowen don.bo...@earthlink.net wrote: I am trying to decide between the Icom 2200H or the Icom 880. The 2200 is a single band and needs the digital board for D-Star. The 880 is a dual band and comes D-Star ready. The 2200 goes for around $150 and the digital board is about $200 for a total under $400 while the 880 goes for around $500. My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. Thoughts, comments? -- Don Bowen KI6DIU http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
Don, My personal recommendation is based on the following; Do you seriously plan to get into D-Star or do you wish to just 'test the waters'? One thing you should consider...are you within reach of a D-Star repeater stack? If not, then consider a DV Dongle for around $200 and utilizing the Internet. I have one upstairs in my library to monitor and access our N4USI stack and REF 025. The DV Dongle has fairly good resale value too. Another option that I would highly recommend is that you search for a 'used' IC-800H on the market (D-Star ready). They can be had for $350.00. I have two of them. One mounted in the shack and one mounted in the car. Both work very well for me. But remember, the IC-800H is a dual band analog/digital radio, it will only monitor one digital side at a time. I also have a IC-2820 in my truck. You could just 'test the waters' with the IC-2200...however I find it very limited in use, especially with channel memories. I have one set up in the shack that is dedicated solely to our N4USI Port C module. It performs well and has good audio. I do not use it on any other frequency or band. I have another IC-800H set up in the shack dedicated to our N4USI Port B module. If you seriously plan to get into D-Star than go with the IC-880. Your options and versatility are much greater than the IC-2200. Both the IC-800H and the IC-880 have good resale value on the market, should you desire to do otherwise. Also, think twice about attempting to program your D-Star radio via the manual mode...get the software and do it the easy way! Hope this helps. 73 de Scott/KT4ER N4USI Bull Run D-Star ARG 'The Gargoyles of Bull Run Mtn.' Coordinator/Member National Capital Region (NCR) D-Star Association ---BeginMessage--- I am trying to decide between the Icom 2200H or the Icom 880. The 2200 is a single band and needs the digital board for D-Star. The 880 is a dual band and comes D-Star ready. The 2200 goes for around $150 and the digital board is about $200 for a total under $400 while the 880 goes for around $500. My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. Thoughts, comments? -- Don Bowen KI6DIU http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html ---End Message---
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
I'd strongly suggest spending the extra money up front and getting the 880. In your area near San Jose, there are several D-STAR systems listed in the Dstarusers.org repeater directory, most of which have a 70cm repeater in addition to 2m and 23cm, and some that are solely 70cm in California. Some systems may opt to leave the 70cm side connected to a chat reflector, and leave 2m available for local chat, or vice versa. The 880 is a much more current design and more D-STAR user friendly than the 2200 in terms of front panel controls and programming. If you lived in an area with a 2m only system and it was the only one around, then I'd say, Sure, get the 2200. Here in the Kansas City area, both systems' 70cm repeater is active used 99% of the time; one system downtown has 23cm, but it is seldom used and the other system has 2m capability, but the 2m repeater is not on the air yet. I understand trying to save on cost if it's not necessary, but I think you would be missing out by going with the 2200. 73, Tom, NM0N On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Don Bowen don.bo...@earthlink.net wrote: I am trying to decide between the Icom 2200H or the Icom 880. The 2200 is a single band and needs the digital board for D-Star. The 880 is a dual band and comes D-Star ready. The 2200 goes for around $150 and the digital board is about $200 for a total under $400 while the 880 goes for around $500. My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. Thoughts, comments? -- Don Bowen KI6DIU http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
Hi Don, For what it's worth I got started on DStar with a 2200H loaner. Then I bought the 880. The difference in operating is significant (at least to me). The display is much better. On the 2200 you do not see the sending station info text like callsign. Seems like a small thing, but I really would miss it. I am net control for a local dstar net and we have used 'silent checkin' a few times. Stations just key for a few seconds and net control can copy their call from the display. Can't do that with the 2200. Don't know your qth, but in southern Califoria it appears that all the DStar repeaters are on the 440 band - no frequency slots available on 2 meters. This will likely appear in other regions as well. So, I would say go with the 880. I will add that a friend that runs our local dstar repeater tried the 880 and did not like it. He bought another 2820 instead, although for much more money. 73 Ted W1GRI _ From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Don Bowen Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 10:24 To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880 I am trying to decide between the Icom 2200H or the Icom 880. The 2200 is a single band and needs the digital board for D-Star. The 880 is a dual band and comes D-Star ready. The 2200 goes for around $150 and the digital board is about $200 for a total under $400 while the 880 goes for around $500. My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. Thoughts, comments? -- Don Bowen KI6DIU http://www.braingar http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html age.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
I'd suggest you purchase a used ID-800 and I have seem them purchased for $350-400.00 I purchased two for $400.00. Tom - W4UOC In a message dated 2/13/2010 10:50:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, don.bo...@earthlink.net writes: I am trying to decide between the Icom 2200H or the Icom 880. The 2200 is a single band and needs the digital board for D-Star. The 880 is a dual band and comes D-Star ready. The 2200 goes for around $150 and the digital board is about $200 for a total under $400 while the 880 goes for around $500. My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. Thoughts, comments? -- Don Bowen KI6DIU _http://www.braingarhttp://www.brhttp://www.brainhttp://www.b_ (http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html)
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
Don't waste your money! Very limited features Fran Signature -- Fran, W1FJM http://www.miele-family.com/weather On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Don Bowen don.bo...@earthlink.net wrote: I am trying to decide between the Icom 2200H or the Icom 880. The 2200 is a single band and needs the digital board for D-Star. The 880 is a dual band and comes D-Star ready. The 2200 goes for around $150 and the digital board is about $200 for a total under $400 while the 880 goes for around $500. My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. Thoughts, comments? -- Don Bowen KI6DIU http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
Ah, well, welcome to Missouri (I'm on the Kansas side in the KC area). With a base antenna, you could probably reach the W0OMD system which is about 30 miles SE of Springfield, MO. It is currently 2m only, but has pretty good coverage so it might be accessible when mobile from that far out. Check out the D-STAR repeater map at http://jfindu.net/DSTARRepeaters.aspx to get an idea of how the systems are spread out geographically. As others have stated, you might consider a used ID-800H or the DV Dongle if you're not within range of the Ozark Mountain D-STAR repeater. Feel free to email me directly if you need help. I know the system admin for the W0OMD system and I am the admin for the W0CW and K0HAM systems near Kansas City. Good luck. On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Don Bowen don.bo...@earthlink.net wrote: Tom NM0N wrote: I'd strongly suggest spending the extra money up front and getting the 880. In your area near San Jose, there are several D-STAR systems listed in the Dstarusers.org repeater directory, most of which have a 70cm repeater in addition to 2m and 23cm, and some that are solely 70cm in California. I am about to relocate to the Ozarks of Missouri about 60 miles east of Branson. -- Don Bowen KI6DIU
Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] 2200H vs 880
At 02:23 AM 2/14/2010, you wrote: My current thoughts are to get the 2200 now and the digital board later when funds are available. I'll add my voice to the chorus, and I concur with the general consensus. Of the two radios mentioned, definitely put down the extra money and go for the 880. The D-STAR features are much better developed. As others have pointed out, buying a used ID 800 is an option to save a few dollars. I've just come from a local hamfest down here, and I noticed a couple of 800s secondhand. 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL http://vkradio.com
