[e-gold-list] Re: Links
Euro Gold Line wishes to reassure it's clients and prospective clients that we continue, unimpeded, in the srerving of our clients need with regard to e-gold. Several of our clients emailed us over the weekend asking why we were no longer listed on the the directory, sample below published with permission but asked not to give the name. Mr Zuchristian, Good day Sir, maybe you can help. I can no longer access your site, a friend of mine would like to fund his e-gold account. Your site is no longer on the e-gold home page... We belive that we have received the friend's order and it will be handled. We are sorry for any inconvenience that this might cause our or e-gold's clients. Our site can be located at: http://www.eurogoldline.nl Thank you, Frank Euro Gold Line Admin tel: +31-26-844-0113 FAX: +31-26-844-0342 ICQ 94782605 http://www.eurogoldline.nl = Get your free OSGold or e-gold account, visit our site and click on one of the buttons. http://www.eurogoldline.nl Need to manage your e-gold account? Compare our rates. Serving Europe, but available WORLDWIDE! http://www.eurogoldline.nl Want a debit card tied to your e-gold? http://www.cashcards.net/rep/23239 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Well, BB is at work again - maybe?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What's a BB ? > > >Here's my .02 cents worth. I have been watching e-gold's > >behaviour over the past few months and my feeling is > >that the company is just another BB operation. I am > >amazed at the callous disregard they have for their > >customers and I am moving all my funds out as soon as > >they come in. > >As for OSgold's smell, it is a helluva lot sweeter than the foul > >odor emanating out of e-gold. > >Kaare Bursell Bona-fide Business Which is of course irksome to those less so. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Well, BB is at work again - maybe?
> As for OSgold's smell, it is a helluva lot sweeter than the foul > odor emanating out of e-gold. > Kaare Bursell Can I ask you: What do you like about OSGold? Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Well, BB is at work again - maybe?
> > What's a BB ? > > Ball Buster? > Bullion Bank? > Red Ryder Ammo? > > Beats Me! Big Brother! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Well, BB is at work again - maybe?
> What's a BB ? Ball Buster? Bullion Bank? Red Ryder Ammo? Beats Me! -- HR > > >Here's my .02 cents worth. I have been watching e-gold's > >behaviour over the past few months and my feeling is > >that the company is just another BB operation. I am --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Well, BB is at work again - maybe?
What's a BB ? >Here's my .02 cents worth. I have been watching e-gold's >behaviour over the past few months and my feeling is >that the company is just another BB operation. I am >amazed at the callous disregard they have for their >customers and I am moving all my funds out as soon as >they come in. >As for OSgold's smell, it is a helluva lot sweeter than the foul >odor emanating out of e-gold. >Kaare Bursell > --- "Great ventures create great mottos." --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Well, BB is at work again - maybe?
Here's my .02 cents worth. I have been watching e-gold's behaviour over the past few months and my feeling is that the company is just another BB operation. I am amazed at the callous disregard they have for their customers and I am moving all my funds out as soon as they come in. As for OSgold's smell, it is a helluva lot sweeter than the foul odor emanating out of e-gold. Kaare Bursell Need an extra income? Gold Giving is the way to do it: http://www.goldgiving.com/cgi-bin/gift.cgi?inu1551 Visit The Alchemycal Pages http://www.alchemycalpages.com and purchase your copy of "The End Of Medicine" Get your hits with http://nomorehits.com/cgi-bin/start.cgi?referrer=Junkman";>How to get your webhost screaming "NoMoreHits" __ Get Paid... With Your Free Email at http://www.zwallet.com/index.html?user=kaareb --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today?
Steve Renner Wrote: > > Hi George, > > In response to James Ray's letter, Canadian Maple Leafs, are just bullion > > coins, and as such have no intrinsic value other than the spot price of > > gold. They are reportable and confiscatable by the Canadian Government. > [...] SnowDog Wrote: > Huh??? When did the Canadian government stop allowing its citizens to own > gold? > > Craig By now everyone on this list must have noticed how 99% of everything that comes out of the SR trios' mouths (Elwyn J., George M. & Steve R.) is garbage? Makes me wonder how they manage to do business! __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] E-GOLD UPDATE
E-GOLD UPDATE As you all know from our previous message our e-gold account had been either capped or suspended by e-gold with no prior warning from them. We have now received a message from e-gold that is in no way a satisfactory explanation for their actions. At the same time although we did ask all members not to write to us regarding the e-gold situation until we were in position to give you all some clear answers, we have in fact received many emails from members who have said they have had lots of problems in the past with their e- gold accounts and some have said they have lost money by sending their e-gold to companies that have had their accounts frozen by e-gold. In our last message we did say that we were reluctant to open an account in the first place with e-gold and it now seems we should not have given way to the members we have who wrote in pleading with us to open an e-gold account. Please read the notes below so that we can make our position clear to all members. We no longer have an e-gold account for receiving payments from members; neither do we have an account for making e-gold payments back to our members. We will not be in contact with e-gold again for any reason and under no circumstances will we consider using them again in the future. The e-gold account has been removed from our website funding page, please do not try to send any more funds to us via e-gold. We have received 4 messages from members who have asked if we would keep the account with e-gold open until they can get their funds out, and in one case someone even suggested that we should open anonymous accounts with e-gold just to keep using the system for as long as possible, apart from the fact that these messages are based on selfishness and nothing else we have no intention of dealing with e-gold ever again. A member has wrote asking if we will send back the e-gold payment he has just made and also one that he made last month including any profit, we cannot send anything back to a member via e-gold so you will need to tell us how you want to receive payments. On the question of repayments of capital any member can request a refund of their capital but they have to give the 90 days notice as shown on the website Bank transfers: In the past we have only sent bank transfers out to our members if they have either a Paritate or Citunion account, within the next month we will change this so that we will be in a position to send transfers to any Bank account of your choice, please note that any transfer costs involved in this will have to be deducted from your account. In the reply from e-gold they have said that they have received emails from people who have said that e-gold that they have sent us has not been put on their accounts, this is not true the only e-gold payments that we did not allocate to accounts are those that came in to us with no name or ID number in the e-gold memo box and these were sent straight back to the account they originated from apart from these there was one other payment that came in where e-gold did not show the dollar amount on our statement but with this one we credited the member with more than he sent in e-gold. Should there be any doubt on how we dealt with thee-gold payments we received we can and will publish everyone of our e-gold statements from day one on our website and send a full list out to all the members. Our position on the e-gold situation is clear so please do not write to us on this subject, all you need to do now is tell us how you want to be paid when you request a payment out from your account. Any further developments will be sent out as a member update and will be posted on the website. "I would suggest you open an OSGold account to make payments with. They have never frozen an account for no reason at all. I have been exceedingly happy with their service." __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] not hyips -- casinos!
>I've never gambled in an actual casino, though I know of people who did. >I've done my gambling online, and have made quite a few winnings. Just >yesterday, I got a survey bonus of $5.00, gambled with my system in craps >and raised that t0 $14.53. Withdrew $10.00 and waiting for the next >bonus. I doubled my money in 3 decisions in craps. > >Of course, I could have lost, too. And there are times when I do lose. >But what the heck? I've been playing with free money. > >Gerry Well Gerry, I urge you to play at THE GOLD CASINO, which MY COMPANY PROGRAMMED!!! http://thegoldcasino.com --- it's excellent. It actually works IN GOLD, ie, you bet centigrams of gold and so on. Hundreds of thousands of hands played, excellent customer services, a year or more in trouble-free operation. It's a quality operation! I play there myself all the time, although, I usually lose. Good luck! -- JP --- "Great ventures create great mottos." --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Julian Morrison wrote: > No, all those do is make you get dragged out back by muscular and > unintelligent men, who proceed to hit you until you (a) explain your > system (b) see the error of your ways (c) return the money. A certain > amount of grovelling, frenzied apology, and piteous pleas for mercy may > also be involved. > I've never gambled in an actual casino, though I know of people who did. I've done my gambling online, and have made quite a few winnings. Just yesterday, I got a survey bonus of $5.00, gambled with my system in craps and raised that t0 $14.53. Withdrew $10.00 and waiting for the next bonus. I doubled my money in 3 decisions in craps. Of course, I could have lost, too. And there are times when I do lose. But what the heck? I've been playing with free money. Gerry --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today?
Just more *hype* to promote higher premiums on so-called collectible gold coins. Stick to plain bullion coins -- unless you like paying twice as much for the same ounce of gold.. JB >From: "C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today? >Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:31:35 -0400 > >On 14 May 2001, at 13:49, Steve Renner wrote: > > > Canadian Maple Leafs, are just bullion > > coins, and as such have no intrinsic value other than the spot price of > > gold. They are reportable and confiscatable by the Canadian Government. > >Where did you get that? > >They are not reportable and not can not be confiscated unless >there is a special law voted on. Even then, it would likely take more >than a law. > > >Claude > >http://www.goldcurrencies.ca >http://www.ormetal.com >== >Claude Cormier Public Key >http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html >== > >--- >You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] wow
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/GD/61 gold up through another barrier -- gotta be a down-leg soon. --- "Great ventures create great mottos." --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
"Gerardo S. Esguerra" wrote: > Yes, gambling also is another way, and I've studied methods (work?) that > can make you win even if you don't own the casino No, all those do is make you get dragged out back by muscular and unintelligent men, who proceed to hit you until you (a) explain your system (b) see the error of your ways (c) return the money. A certain amount of grovelling, frenzied apology, and piteous pleas for mercy may also be involved. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Julian Morrison wrote: > "Gerardo S. Esguerra" wrote: > > > My point was that you CAN earn by giving money and doing nothing. > It's called gambling. And the only way to win is to own the casino. > Yes, gambling also is another way, and I've studied methods (work?) that can make you win even if you don't own the casino (craps and roulette would be good bets), though owning the casino would also be one way to get back big profits. ;-) Personally, I think all methods of making money are gambles. The preparations you have to make to earn with a business or trade venture would be the same the you have to make to be a successful gambler. In fact, I've prepared an article about that. Anybody interested? Gerry --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today?
Hi Claude, Thanks for the update. We don't deal much in Maple Leafs although if a client requests them we will be glad to supply them. Our expertise is in Rare and Collectable Coins. The GoldLynks Club offers Members a great opportunity to build a portfilio in Collectable Coins. Go to: http://www.cashcards.net/goldlynks Yours In Success, Steve Renner, Founder Cash Cards International, LLC 250 Second Ave S Suite 110 Minneapolis, MN 55401 USA Phone (612) 333-3893 Fax (612) 673-0883 ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ http://www.cashcards.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ - Original Message - From: "C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Renner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today? > On 14 May 2001, at 13:49, Steve Renner wrote: > > > Canadian Maple Leafs, are just bullion > > coins, and as such have no intrinsic value other than the spot price of > > gold. They are reportable and confiscatable by the Canadian Government. > > Where did you get that? > > They are not reportable and not can not be confiscated unless > there is a special law voted on. Even then, it would likely take more > than a law. > > > Claude > > http://www.goldcurrencies.ca > http://www.ormetal.com > == > Claude Cormier Public Key > http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html > == > --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Same Scam, second verse...
http://www.free-market.net/forums/e-gold0008/messages/677659202.html and surrounding messages indicate that someone still needs some long treatises on morality, etc. REMEMBER! DO NOT enter correct account info on the e-qold (that's a "Q") site. The e-gold (with a "G") guys are (once again) complaining, but other measures -- depending on um...your own creativity are invited. I'd note that if law enforcement weren't so damned busy with that "criminal" Parker Bradley they might have more resources to devote to this problem, but that would be a very-nasty thing for me to say. sigh... jammer99 Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today?
On 14 May 2001, at 13:49, Steve Renner wrote: > Canadian Maple Leafs, are just bullion > coins, and as such have no intrinsic value other than the spot price of > gold. They are reportable and confiscatable by the Canadian Government. Where did you get that? They are not reportable and not can not be confiscated unless there is a special law voted on. Even then, it would likely take more than a law. Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com == Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html == --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today?
"C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc." wrote: > > On 14 May 2001, at 13:49, Steve Renner wrote: > > > Canadian Maple Leafs, are just bullion > > coins, and as such have no intrinsic value other than the spot price of > > gold. They are reportable and confiscatable by the Canadian Government. > > Where did you get that? > > They are not reportable and not can not be confiscated unless > there is a special law voted on. Even then, it would likely take more > than a law. Heck they can't even properly confiscate peoples' guns since a recent victim disarmament law. What chance would they have taking people's gold coins? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today?
On 14 May 2001, at 13:49, Steve Renner wrote: > Canadian Maple Leafs, are just bullion > coins, and as such have no intrinsic value other than the spot price of > gold. They are reportable and confiscatable by the Canadian Government. Where did you get that? They are not reportable and not can not be confiscated unless there is a special law voted on. Even then, it would likely take more than a law. Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com == Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html == --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today?
> Hi George, > In response to James Ray's letter, Canadian Maple Leafs, are just bullion > coins, and as such have no intrinsic value other than the spot price of > gold. They are reportable and confiscatable by the Canadian Government. [...] Huh??? When did the Canadian government stop allowing its citizens to own gold? Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today?
Hi George, In response to James Ray's letter, Canadian Maple Leafs, are just bullion coins, and as such have no intrinsic value other than the spot price of gold. They are reportable and confiscatable by the Canadian Government. The 1oz Maple Leafs have a value of $300.00 US today. We would prefer not to even fool around with the fractional pieces. If you like we can ship you these in any quantity you like. If I may suggest, take a look at the St Gaudens $20 piece Vintage 1908 to 1933, these in a Brilliant Uncirculated condition are available today for the unbelievably low price of $599.95. each. They are advertised by major retailers at $995. Also the French Angel or Swiss 20 Frank vintage vintage 1871 to 1998 in Brilliant Uncirculated condition are available for immediate shipping for $159. each. These have a retail value of $299.95 Order any of these coins today and we will include Free Shipping. For a sneak preview of the GoldLynks Club: Go to: http://www.cashcards.net/goldlynks Yours In Success, Steve Renner, Founder Cash Cards International, LLC 250 Second Ave S Suite 110 Minneapolis, MN 55401 USA Phone (612) 333-3893 Fax (612) 673-0883 ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ http://www.cashcards.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ - Original Message - From: "George Matyjewicz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Any Maples today? > At 11:06 AM 5/14/2001, James M. Ray wrote: > >There are a few of us who would like to buy various sizes of Canadian > >Maple Leaf gold bullion coins in reasonably-good condition. I know that > >a number of them were redeemed back in the "coin era." If you have > >have any and would like e-gold for them, please shoot me a price off- > >list. If the price is good, we will buy a few all shipped to the same place. > > Steve Renner of Cash Cards was starting a "GoldLynks" program > that had some excellent gold coins available and at great > member's only pricing. I'm not sure how far along he has the > program, but I understood he was launching this week. > > Contact him at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or maybe they have > something at their site http://www.cashcards.net/ > > > >"Be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy." > > -- Warren Buffett, Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway > > Love it! > > George > > > > > __ > George Matyjewicz, President/General Manager > Standard Reserve Holding Limited > World Wide Currency for the World > http://www.standardreserve.com > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
On Mon, 14 May 2001, C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: > On 14 May 2001, at 17:24, Gerardo S. Esguerra wrote: > > > Send the money to get something for nothing is "certainly a scam." Well, > > isn't this what you do when you invest in stocks, futures, etc.? ;-) > > Hello Gerry... > > First...there is no such thing as "Investing in futures"... the futures > game is speculation. Sorry for the error. > > Stocks are another thing. But being a successful investor in stocks > implies a lot of work. > I know a serious investor would do a lot of work, but I doubt if that is the case with a big majority of stock investors, who, I would think, just let the analysts or some other persons do the work for them. Many would just put in money and many have earned without doing work. My point was that you CAN earn by giving money and doing nothing. Thanks for your response. Gerry --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Mr/Mrs SOMMAI THELSON
Please contact Euro Gold Line Admin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] URGENT. We received your deposit but have no order form or information to either complete the transaction or contact you. If you did not complete an order form, please do so, we have modified the redirects to insure delivery. We apologize for the delay, and will fund your account as soon as we hav the proper information. Thank, Frank Euro Gold Line Admin --- Ben Legume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Maybe you (and other e-gold lists) should have a > section on suspect > >> or known criminal MMs/scammers? > > >This sounds to me like a legal liability nightmare. > Far better to not > >list, or at most list the distrust very explicitly > as a *personal > >opinion*. > > > Not a problem, IMO. If they are scammers, good luck > to them suing you > for calling them scammers. If not, provided you > phrase the warning in > a factual manner and rely on FACTS and not opinion, > hearsay, rumor > etc., it shouldn't be a problem. > > I.E. > > A number of our customers have warned us via email > that LegumeGold > Ltd has accepted payments and not provided e-gold. > The contact > details given on the website appear to be bogus, and > enquiries with > the Nigerian National Financial Crimes Unit indicate > that the service > is being run by known scam-artists. We do not > recommend any dealings > with them, and any contact should be reported to > xxx@xx. > > As opposed to > > LegumeGold Ltd should be avoided. One of the > 'company directors' > listed has the same middle name as a man convicted > of cheque fraud in > Ohio in 1982, which is highly suspicious. The > website is located in > New Zealand, which is another sure sign of fraud. > Similarly, a > paranoid schitzophrenic has emailed us hundreds of > times warning us > about them. Avoid avoid avoid, use ListOperatorGold > instead. > > > New Books at Discount Prices > --- Send the right message --- > > + Today freemail + > > Get your free, private email address at >http://www.today.com.au > > --- > You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Get your free OSGold or e-gold account, visit our site and click on one of the buttons. http://www.eurogoldline.nl Need to manage your e-gold account? Compare our rates. Serving Europe, but available WORLDWIDE! http://www.eurogoldline.nl Want a debit card tied to your e-gold? http://www.cashcards.net/rep/23239 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
"Gerardo S. Esguerra" wrote: > My point was that you CAN earn by giving money and doing nothing. It's called gambling. And the only way to win is to own the casino. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Mr/Mrs SOMMAI THELSON
Please contact Euro Gold Line Admin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] URGENT We received your deposit, but have no order from you. There were also no instructions given on the wire. Please contact us at the above or fill out the order form again. We have changed the routing on forms to another email address. Thank you. Regards, Frank, Euro Gold Line Admin tel: +31-26-844-0113 FAX: +31-26-844-0342 ICQ 94782605 = Get your free OSGold or e-gold account, visit our site and click on one of the buttons. http://www.eurogoldline.nl Need to manage your e-gold account? Compare our rates. Serving Europe, but available WORLDWIDE! http://www.eurogoldline.nl Want a debit card tied to your e-gold? http://www.cashcards.net/rep/23239 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Samuel Mc Kee wrote: > > Send the money to get something for nothing is "certainly a scam." Well, > > isn't this what you do when you invest in stocks, futures, etc.? ;-) > > > > In logic that's called a straw man: Claim someone has taken a > different, more easily attackable, position than he has actually taken and > attack that position instead of addressing what he actually said. > > Firstly, I didn't say "something for nothing." I said "fantastic returns" > for nothing. Secondly, if you read the rest of the post--which you > conveniently snipped so as not to confuse anyone with facts--it is obvious > that by "for nothing" I mean without working. > > Sheesh. > Sorry for the offense and sorry for my inaccurate quote. I did not intend to put words in your mouth. I was just giving an idea which I hoped would be taken lightly and loosely by my putting a wink at the end. My point was not in trying to attack whatever position you presented (which I respect), but rather to show that you CAN earn fantastic returns without working. How? I gave the example of stocks. You buy stocks, do nothing, and earn fantastic returns. I know this does not happen all the time, but again, my point is the possibility, and not having to work. I was told in another post that one needs to work to succeed in stocks, and I agree. However, many who invest in stocks just let other people do the work: analysts, their neighbors, the latest rumor, etc. Whether it's right or wrong is not the point. Rather, they just put in some money and don't work. And some have had fantastic returns. Again, my apologies. I was being lighthearted about the whole thing and did not intend any offense. Gerry --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Mr/Mrs SOMMAI THELSON
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[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Samuel Mc Kee wrote: > > Send the money to get something for nothing is "certainly a scam." Well, > > isn't this what you do when you invest in stocks, futures, etc.? ;-) > > > > In logic that's called a straw man: Claim someone has taken a > different, more easily attackable, position than he has actually taken and > attack that position instead of addressing what he actually said. > > Firstly, I didn't say "something for nothing." I said "fantastic returns" > for nothing. Secondly, if you read the rest of the post--which you > conveniently snipped so as not to confuse anyone with facts--it is obvious > that by "for nothing" I mean without working. > > Sheesh. > Sorry for the offense and sorry for my inaccurate quote. I did not intend to put words in your mouth. I was just giving an idea which I hoped would be taken lightly and loosely by my putting a wink at the end. My point was not in trying to attack whatever position you presented (which I respect), but rather to show that you CAN earn fantastic returns without working. How? I gave the example of stocks. You buy stocks, do nothing, and earn fantastic returns. I know this does not happen all the time, but again, my point is the possibility, and not having to work. I was told in another post that one needs to work to succeed in stocks, and I agree. However, many who invest in stocks just let other people do the work: analysts, their neighbors, the latest rumor, etc. Whether it's right or wrong is not the point. Rather, they just put in some money and don't work. And some have had fantastic returns. Again, my apologies. I was being lighthearted about the whole thing and did not intend any offense. Gerry --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Mr/Mrs SOMMAI THELSON
Please contact Euro Gold Line Admin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] URGENT. We received your deposit but have no order form or information to either complete the transaction or contact you. If you did not complete an order form, please do so, we have modified the redirects to insure delivery. We apologize for the delay, and will fund your account as soon as we hav the proper information. Thank, Frank Euro Gold Line Admin --- Ben Legume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Maybe you (and other e-gold lists) should have a > section on suspect > >> or known criminal MMs/scammers? > > >This sounds to me like a legal liability nightmare. > Far better to not > >list, or at most list the distrust very explicitly > as a *personal > >opinion*. > > > Not a problem, IMO. If they are scammers, good luck > to them suing you > for calling them scammers. If not, provided you > phrase the warning in > a factual manner and rely on FACTS and not opinion, > hearsay, rumor > etc., it shouldn't be a problem. > > I.E. > > A number of our customers have warned us via email > that LegumeGold > Ltd has accepted payments and not provided e-gold. > The contact > details given on the website appear to be bogus, and > enquiries with > the Nigerian National Financial Crimes Unit indicate > that the service > is being run by known scam-artists. We do not > recommend any dealings > with them, and any contact should be reported to > xxx@xx. > > As opposed to > > LegumeGold Ltd should be avoided. One of the > 'company directors' > listed has the same middle name as a man convicted > of cheque fraud in > Ohio in 1982, which is highly suspicious. The > website is located in > New Zealand, which is another sure sign of fraud. > Similarly, a > paranoid schitzophrenic has emailed us hundreds of > times warning us > about them. Avoid avoid avoid, use ListOperatorGold > instead. > > > New Books at Discount Prices > --- Send the right message --- > > + Today freemail + > > Get your free, private email address at >http://www.today.com.au > > --- > You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Get your free OSGold or e-gold account, visit our site and click on one of the buttons. http://www.eurogoldline.nl Need to manage your e-gold account? Compare our rates. Serving Europe, but available WORLDWIDE! http://www.eurogoldline.nl Want a debit card tied to your e-gold? http://www.cashcards.net/rep/23239 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
On Mon, 14 May 2001, C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc. wrote: > On 14 May 2001, at 17:24, Gerardo S. Esguerra wrote: > > > Send the money to get something for nothing is "certainly a scam." Well, > > isn't this what you do when you invest in stocks, futures, etc.? ;-) > > Hello Gerry... > > First...there is no such thing as "Investing in futures"... the futures > game is speculation. Sorry for the error. > > Stocks are another thing. But being a successful investor in stocks > implies a lot of work. > I know a serious investor would do a lot of work, but I doubt if that is the case with a big majority of stock investors, who, I would think, just let the analysts or some other persons do the work for them. Many would just put in money and many have earned without doing work. My point was that you CAN earn by giving money and doing nothing. Thanks for your response. Gerry --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Mr/Mrs SOMMAI THELSON
Please contact Euro Gold Line Admin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] URGENT. We received your deposit but have no order form or information to either complete the transaction or contact you. If you did not complete an order form, please do so, we have modified the redirects to insure delivery. We apologize for the delay, and will fund your account as soon as we hav the proper information. Thank, Frank Euro Gold Line Admin --- Ben Legume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Maybe you (and other e-gold lists) should have a > section on suspect > >> or known criminal MMs/scammers? > > >This sounds to me like a legal liability nightmare. > Far better to not > >list, or at most list the distrust very explicitly > as a *personal > >opinion*. > > > Not a problem, IMO. If they are scammers, good luck > to them suing you > for calling them scammers. If not, provided you > phrase the warning in > a factual manner and rely on FACTS and not opinion, > hearsay, rumor > etc., it shouldn't be a problem. > > I.E. > > A number of our customers have warned us via email > that LegumeGold > Ltd has accepted payments and not provided e-gold. > The contact > details given on the website appear to be bogus, and > enquiries with > the Nigerian National Financial Crimes Unit indicate > that the service > is being run by known scam-artists. We do not > recommend any dealings > with them, and any contact should be reported to > xxx@xx. > > As opposed to > > LegumeGold Ltd should be avoided. One of the > 'company directors' > listed has the same middle name as a man convicted > of cheque fraud in > Ohio in 1982, which is highly suspicious. The > website is located in > New Zealand, which is another sure sign of fraud. > Similarly, a > paranoid schitzophrenic has emailed us hundreds of > times warning us > about them. Avoid avoid avoid, use ListOperatorGold > instead. > > > New Books at Discount Prices > --- Send the right message --- > > + Today freemail + > > Get your free, private email address at >http://www.today.com.au > > --- > You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Get your free OSGold or e-gold account, visit our site and click on one of the buttons. http://www.eurogoldline.nl Need to manage your e-gold account? Compare our rates. Serving Europe, but available WORLDWIDE! http://www.eurogoldline.nl Want a debit card tied to your e-gold? http://www.cashcards.net/rep/23239 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Mr/Mrs SOMMAI THELSON
Please contact Euro Gold Line Admin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] URGENT. We received your deposit but have no order form or information to either complete the transaction or contact you. If you did not complete an order form, please do so, we have modified the redirects to insure delivery. We apologize for the delay, and will fund your account as soon as we hav the proper information. Thank, Frank Euro Gold Line Admin --- Ben Legume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Maybe you (and other e-gold lists) should have a > section on suspect > >> or known criminal MMs/scammers? > > >This sounds to me like a legal liability nightmare. > Far better to not > >list, or at most list the distrust very explicitly > as a *personal > >opinion*. > > > Not a problem, IMO. If they are scammers, good luck > to them suing you > for calling them scammers. If not, provided you > phrase the warning in > a factual manner and rely on FACTS and not opinion, > hearsay, rumor > etc., it shouldn't be a problem. > > I.E. > > A number of our customers have warned us via email > that LegumeGold > Ltd has accepted payments and not provided e-gold. > The contact > details given on the website appear to be bogus, and > enquiries with > the Nigerian National Financial Crimes Unit indicate > that the service > is being run by known scam-artists. We do not > recommend any dealings > with them, and any contact should be reported to > xxx@xx. > > As opposed to > > LegumeGold Ltd should be avoided. One of the > 'company directors' > listed has the same middle name as a man convicted > of cheque fraud in > Ohio in 1982, which is highly suspicious. The > website is located in > New Zealand, which is another sure sign of fraud. > Similarly, a > paranoid schitzophrenic has emailed us hundreds of > times warning us > about them. Avoid avoid avoid, use ListOperatorGold > instead. > > > New Books at Discount Prices > --- Send the right message --- > > + Today freemail + > > Get your free, private email address at >http://www.today.com.au > > --- > You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Get your free OSGold or e-gold account, visit our site and click on one of the buttons. http://www.eurogoldline.nl Need to manage your e-gold account? Compare our rates. Serving Europe, but available WORLDWIDE! http://www.eurogoldline.nl Want a debit card tied to your e-gold? http://www.cashcards.net/rep/23239 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Any Maples today?
At 11:06 AM 5/14/2001, James M. Ray wrote: >There are a few of us who would like to buy various sizes of Canadian >Maple Leaf gold bullion coins in reasonably-good condition. I know that >a number of them were redeemed back in the "coin era." If you have >have any and would like e-gold for them, please shoot me a price off- >list. If the price is good, we will buy a few all shipped to the same place. Steve Renner of Cash Cards was starting a "GoldLynks" program that had some excellent gold coins available and at great member's only pricing. I'm not sure how far along he has the program, but I understood he was launching this week. Contact him at mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or maybe they have something at their site http://www.cashcards.net/ >"Be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy." > -- Warren Buffett, Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway Love it! George __ George Matyjewicz, President/General Manager Standard Reserve Holding Limited World Wide Currency for the World http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Any Maples today?
There are a few of us who would like to buy various sizes of Canadian Maple Leaf gold bullion coins in reasonably-good condition. I know that a number of them were redeemed back in the "coin era." If you have have any and would like e-gold for them, please shoot me a price off- list. If the price is good, we will buy a few all shipped to the same place. Thanks. JMR "Be greedy when others are fearful and fearful when others are greedy." -- Warren Buffett, Chairman of Berkshire Hathaway --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gerardo S. > Esguerra > > > > So let's all be careful to compare only apples to apples when > talking about > > what's a "realistic" ROI for HYIPs. One where you just send the > money and > > get a fantastic return for nothing is certainly a scam; one > where you have > > to work is another animal entirely. > > > > Send the money to get something for nothing is "certainly a scam." Well, > isn't this what you do when you invest in stocks, futures, etc.? ;-) > Notice how he tries to make it look like I said something I never actually said. In logic that's called a straw man: Claim someone has taken a different, more easily attackable, position than he has actually taken and attack that position instead of addressing what he actually said. Firstly, I didn't say "something for nothing." I said "fantastic returns" for nothing. Secondly, if you read the rest of the post--which you conveniently snipped so as not to confuse anyone with facts--it is obvious that by "for nothing" I mean without working. Sheesh. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
On 14 May 2001, at 17:24, Gerardo S. Esguerra wrote: > Send the money to get something for nothing is "certainly a scam." Well, > isn't this what you do when you invest in stocks, futures, etc.? ;-) Hello Gerry... First...there is no such thing as "Investing in futures"... the futures game is speculation. Stocks are another thing. But being a successful investor in stocks implies a lot of work. Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com == Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html == --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Standard Reserve Took His Gold - Solved!
- Original Message - From: "Julian Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Steve Renner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] Re: Standard Reserve Took His Gold - Solved > Steve Renner wrote: > > > > When you are doing business with people from other parts of the Globe the > > Cash Card is invaluable in instantaneous funds transfers, and currency > > conversion. Imagine buying some goods from a supplier in Japan. You can > > transfer funds to their Cash Card account from your Cash Card account, which > > you funded with US dollars, then they can go immediately to the ATM and pull > > their funds out in Japanese Yen. Amazing! > > > > Your issue with a few bucks for fees is totally off track. You are looking > > to save a few bucks, but you are missing out on a $Million opportunity in > > International eCommerce. > > Hey whoah, can do the same with my freebie Visa debit card I get from my > local high-street bank. And they won't charge me squat. Heck, they'll > pay me interest. Like, impressive, man. And I could direct transfer > e-gold from a cybercafe a few hundred meters off, or from my phone - and > amybe other ways in future as well. Nifty, huh? > > What exactly is your unique selling-point here? You are in competition > with other e-gold baded cards, with normal cards, with raw e-gold, and > so on and so forth. This is not a gentle and forgiving market. > Hi Julian, I see that you are not aware that Visa can at any time go into your account and levy fines or reverse and even freeze your deposits. Plus Visa keeps close tabs on every transaction you do for reporting purposes. The Cash Card System - powered by Standard Reserve- is a completely private system, independent of any Banks or Credit Card companies. And as a Merchant, if you accept these type of bank cards you are exposed to Chargebacks, Cyber Shoplifting, and and numerous other possibilities of Fraud. The Cash Card offers Merchants a 100% Chargeback abd Fraud Free solution. Once again I ask you to think on a larger scale than your own back yard. There are many countries that do not have the same luxuries as we are accustomed to here such as Freebie bank cards. There are billions of people in South America, Asia, Africa, Europe, and the Middle East, who need the services we have to offer. You are correct Julian, for your purposes, your own locak bank card would be more cost effective. Our service is aimed at a different market. Thanks for your inquiry! Yours In Success, Steve Renner, Founder Cash Cards International, LLC 250 Second Ave S #110 Minneapolis, MN 55401 Phone: (612) 333-3893 Fax: (612) 332-3834 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ http://www.cashcards.net mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Warning liability.
>> >> Maybe you (and other e-gold lists) should have a section on suspect >> or known criminal MMs/scammers? >This sounds to me like a legal liability nightmare. Far better to not >list, or at most list the distrust very explicitly as a *personal >opinion*. Not a problem, IMO. If they are scammers, good luck to them suing you for calling them scammers. If not, provided you phrase the warning in a factual manner and rely on FACTS and not opinion, hearsay, rumor etc., it shouldn't be a problem. I.E. A number of our customers have warned us via email that LegumeGold Ltd has accepted payments and not provided e-gold. The contact details given on the website appear to be bogus, and enquiries with the Nigerian National Financial Crimes Unit indicate that the service is being run by known scam-artists. We do not recommend any dealings with them, and any contact should be reported to xxx@xx. As opposed to LegumeGold Ltd should be avoided. One of the 'company directors' listed has the same middle name as a man convicted of cheque fraud in Ohio in 1982, which is highly suspicious. The website is located in New Zealand, which is another sure sign of fraud. Similarly, a paranoid schitzophrenic has emailed us hundreds of times warning us about them. Avoid avoid avoid, use ListOperatorGold instead. New Books at Discount Prices --- Send the right message --- + Today freemail + Get your free, private email address at http://www.today.com.au --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Standard Reserve Took His Gold - Solved
Steve Renner wrote: > > When you are doing business with people from other parts of the Globe the > Cash Card is invaluable in instantaneous funds transfers, and currency > conversion. Imagine buying some goods from a supplier in Japan. You can > transfer funds to their Cash Card account from your Cash Card account, which > you funded with US dollars, then they can go immediately to the ATM and pull > their funds out in Japanese Yen. Amazing! > > Your issue with a few bucks for fees is totally off track. You are looking > to save a few bucks, but you are missing out on a $Million opportunity in > International eCommerce. Hey whoah, can do the same with my freebie Visa debit card I get from my local high-street bank. And they won't charge me squat. Heck, they'll pay me interest. Like, impressive, man. And I could direct transfer e-gold from a cybercafe a few hundred meters off, or from my phone - and amybe other ways in future as well. Nifty, huh? What exactly is your unique selling-point here? You are in competition with other e-gold baded cards, with normal cards, with raw e-gold, and so on and so forth. This is not a gentle and forgiving market. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: One other thought on HYIPs
On Sat, 12 May 2001, Samuel Mc Kee wrote: > > So let's all be careful to compare only apples to apples when talking about > what's a "realistic" ROI for HYIPs. One where you just send the money and > get a fantastic return for nothing is certainly a scam; one where you have > to work is another animal entirely. > Send the money to get something for nothing is "certainly a scam." Well, isn't this what you do when you invest in stocks, futures, etc.? ;-) Just thinking... Gerry --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
