Re: [Elecraft] RE: K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-18 Thread Bob Cunnings

Right on. That's how USB connectivity was incorporated into our latest
product line. The FTDI part interfaces with a UART on the
microcontroller on one side, and a normal USB host port on the PC.
FTDI furnishes a USB driver and an application level DLL which our PC
hosted control software calls into to move data into and out of the
interface. We bit the bullet and signed on with the USB consortium to
get our own Vendor Id number. The hardest part is figuring out how to
manage the EEPROM holding the USB device descriptor and checksum, so
as to give the FTDI part it's new identity (documentation was
sketchy). Also the distribution of the driver, application DLL, and
.inf file had to be worked out, as was the management of USB serial
numbers in mfg. But really no big deal, the investment in the serial
protocol is preserved, and no USB driver needs to be written from
scratch.

Anyway, the FTDI part makes tunnelling an existing serial protocol
through the USB port easy and our customers are happy since they can
use USB natively on their new laptops without RS232 ports. They hate
converters since the use case is temporary setups in the field for
maintenance and diagnostics - they want a minimum of cables and
whatnot to lug around and fuss with.

Bob NW8L

On 6/18/06, Hisashi T Fujinaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Most small-volume projects I've seen just use the FTDI USB to serial
interface. Basically it moves the USB-to-serial interface into the
project.

Not real sure if it's hard to use, but check out the WinKey USB to see
an example. I also have a PIC programmer that uses the same chip. The
serial works on my Mac and my PC.

In other words, I don't think it's that big a deal.

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Re: [Elecraft] Duplicating the KPA100 LP filters

2006-06-18 Thread Vic K2VCO

Phil Kane wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:36:25 -0700, Vic K2VCO wrote:


I'm thinking about duplicating the KPA100 LP filter section so I can use
this amp as an output stage for another rig.  



  Why not use an outboard LP Filter like most of us have done
  for decades?  I wouldn't connect ANYTHING to a HF antenna
  without one.


Well, you need several selectable filters, because you need to reduce 
the low-order harmonics.  The usual lowpass TVI filter cuts off around 
30 MHz or even 50 MHz.  But you need to eliminate the 14 MHz (etc) 
harmonic that goes with your 7 MHz desired signal.  A tube rig doesn't 
have this problem because the tuned plate tank circuit has enough 
selectivity to reduce these enough.

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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[Elecraft] What's wrong with Serial

2006-06-18 Thread Paul
It seems to me the glaring error with Elecraft's serial port 
implementation is the ability to blow the I/O card out of the water 
if you use anything but the "special" K2 serial cable. They should 
have designed it so you could use an "off the shelf" serial cable. 
Way too much damage exposure. Really seems out of character to the 
rest of the rig options.


73,
Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] Duplicating the KPA100 LP filters

2006-06-18 Thread Phil Kane
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 21:36:25 -0700, Vic K2VCO wrote:

>I'm thinking about duplicating the KPA100 LP filter section so I can use
>this amp as an output stage for another rig.  This sounds like a
>no-brainer, but I wonder if there's any reason not to do this?

  Why not use an outboard LP Filter like most of us have done
  for decades?  I wouldn't connect ANYTHING to a HF antenna
  without one.

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[Elecraft] Duplicating the KPA100 LP filters

2006-06-18 Thread Vic K2VCO
I have a very nice well-built Henry Radio 100B solid state amplifier. 
Like the KPA100 it uses a pair of 2sc2879's to produce 100 watts.  It 
has a heat sink and fan that looks like it would be enough for a KW! 
Unfortunately, it doesn't have built in LP filters so it can't be used 
to feed an antenna.


I'm thinking about duplicating the KPA100 LP filter section so I can use 
this amp as an output stage for another rig.  This sounds like a 
no-brainer, but I wonder if there's any reason not to do this?


Also, does anyone know the manufacturer and model number of the relays 
(K3-K12) that Elecraft used?  I would have to take my KPA apart to look!

--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
http://www.qsl.net/k2vco
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Re: [Elecraft] Wayne...Eric...K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-18 Thread Phil Kane
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:04:54 -0700 (PDT), Fred (FL) wrote:

>Being able to transmit or receive a document,
>from your desktop typewriter - was a big deal,
>in 1978. Messages, documents, etc.  All based on TTY
>and RS-232. Of course, all over phone or data lines.

  We did that in 1962 on USAF-SAC Project 465-L (The Strategic
  Air Command Control System, an all-electronic store-and-forward
  message system) using modified IBM Selectrics and a weird collection
  of printers.  No big deal then, and certainly not by 1978.

  Although the system itself was upgraded and replaced long ago,
  one part still remains -- the digital character code we used
  became what we now know as "ASCII", primarily because my then
  office-mate (Bob Mayer) was selected to be on the ASCII committee
  (ASCII then stood for American Standard Code for Information
  Interchange) and was amost single-handedly successful in getting
  the "465-L Code" adapted instead of IBM's EBDBIC (?) code.

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Re: [Elecraft] Wayne...Eric...K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-18 Thread Phil Kane
On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 08:12:18 -0600, Phil Townsend wrote:

>Seems to me most computers today are USB as a standard...

  More of a "compromise" than a "standard".  Laziness, cheapness,
  whatever.  Why did they try to fix what wasn't broken?

>I've put up with that stupid RS232 (standard???) for many more years than I
>care to think.

  I use 9 - count 'em - NINE - serial ports on my "late model"
  whiz-bang computer -- it came with one serial port on the m/b
  but I added three dual serial port cards, ran out of slots
  (another gripe of mine - never enough slots) and then went to
  two USB-to-Serial adapters.  I speak "RS-232" real well.  I
  also had to add a USB sound adapter to give me a sound channel
  for digital data separate from the computer's built-in sound
  channel.  I'm scared that my next computer won't have any
  serial  ports.

  Just like going from my decades-long support of IBM's Warp-OS/2
  operating system to Win XP, going to USB was surrendering to
  the Dark Side.

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[Elecraft] 6M transverter question

2006-06-18 Thread Bill W5WVO
Hi all, first post to the reflector. Don't have any Elecraft gear... yet! First 
piece I'm considering is the XV50 transverter, and I'm wondering if the power 
output can be coaxed up to 27 watts -- what I need to drive my TE Systems 0552G 
amplifier to 400W output. All I can find in the website specs is "20 to 25 
watts". I want to know if I can expect to be able to get 27W out of it reliably 
without having to push the envelope. And if there are any circuit mods required 
to get that output, what are they. (Anybody else running that setup?)

73,
Bill W5WVO
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for June 18th & 19th, 2006

2006-06-18 Thread Kevin Rock

Howdy Folks,
   We had two very good nets this evening.  Twenty meters had QSB from  
East to West and it was a little light to me.  Forty meters had it all:  
QRM from the Flying Pigs, QRN from a storm somewhere in the Midwest, and  
QSB would come and go throughout the net.  Made life interesting ;)  My  
faithful Co-NCS was hard pressed to find stations on twenty but made up  
for it on forty meters.  Thank you Tom, I appreciate the respite where I  
can unscramble my notes.
   Between the two nets I made and ate dinner, finished the laundry, split  
some more wood, hauled, and stacked it.  I did the dishes too just to keep  
myself busy.  The sun is now out but the fire is keeping Sam and I warm.   
I hope the wood I've been stacking dries out as fast as possible because I  
may need it for the rest of the summer to keep the chill out of the  
house!  Summer may actually get up here before the foxgloves start  
blooming.  They are getting underway at 200 feet in elevation but none  
have started above 1000 feet.  When the foxgloves have bloomed their way  
to the top of the stalk the summer is fading into autumn.  It is a good  
time to cut more wood!


   On to the lists =>

On 14050 kHz at 2258z:
N0SS - Tom - MO - K2 - 008
N3AO - Carter - PA - K2 - 678   QNI #10!
VE3XL - Ric - ON - K1 - 968
K4JPN - Steve - GA - K2 - 1422
VE1RGB - Gary - NS - K2 - 2519
KT5E - Jay - CO - K2 - 5037
AB8KJ - Chuck - MI - K2 - 2596
AB9V - Mike - IN - K2 - 3993
K2HYD - Ray - VA - KX1 - 608
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K2 - 5138
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031
W0SZ - Steve - CO - K2 - 4088
K4BEH - Pat - GA - K2 - 5061   QNI #15!!

On 7045.78 kHz at 0158z:
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K2 - 5138   QNI #15!!
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031QNI #120
N0SS - Tom - MO - K2 - 008
KT5E - Jay - CO - K2 - 5037QNI #15!!
VE3XL - Ric - ON - K1 - 968
VE6ITA - John - AB - K2 - 5384
K4BEH - Pat - GA - K2 - 5061
KR4OW - Dave - FL - K2 - 4320
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866

   Thank you all for the fun nets this evening.  If there are any errors  
in the above lists please do not hesitate to correspond with me so I may  
fix them.  We are very near 2500 check ins for the history of the net  
(2484).  This total is from 420 different radio operators.  It was nice to  
meet each and every one of you.  However, I am sure there are many more  
folks who would like to try once they've built their KX1, K1, or K2.  Some  
like to check in with each new rig they build just to see how they work  
;)  I've got quite a list of serial numbers too but I do not have a clean  
sweep of all of the folks who've participated.  We are also two states shy  
of WAS ECN style.  If you'd like to correct that problem please check in  
from Delaware or South Dakota the next time you pass through either of  
them.  I wonder if we can get some more wall paper for the web site for  
500 serial numbers?


Until next week,
   Stay warm (or cool) and stay well,
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)
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RE: [Elecraft] Wayne...Eric...K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-18 Thread Kevin Shaw
Actually, I'm working on a USB interface for the K2. My prototype worked
quite well. It only received but what I saw on the waterfall looked good.
The part of the design I was most concerned about (USB) worked well. It's a
compound USB device - hub with soundcard and serial port. I'm in the process
of designing the first PCB that contains all the circuitry. The prototype I
mentioned was bits and pieces of hardware strung across my workbench. No
drivers other than what comes with Windows XP are required.

Unfortunately, I haven't had much time to work on it lately. I have a
consulting business (FPGA design) in addition to my normal day job and I'm
deep into a Gigabit Ethernet design at the moment. Not enough hours in the
day.

Kevin
N8IQ


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fred (FL)
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 10:05 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Wayne...Eric...K2 with USB anytime soon??

Back in 78, making an "QYX Intelligent"
communicating Typewriter - perform TTY over an
RS-232 port, was a big comms deal.  The PC quickly
overtook these early "PC" devices.  Whether
"President Carter's daughter" really had one -
was a rumor I had heard at a software conference then.
Probably not true.   I do know - the Wall Street
Journal, ran an ad for our product, full page - when
we completed the product for Exxon.

Being able to transmit or receive a document,
from your desktop typewriter - was a big deal,
in 1978. Messages, documents, etc.  All based on TTY
and RS-232. Of course, all over phone or data lines.  
TTY and RS-232 standards, at that time, had been
around for eons then.  Early 80's PC's did the same
thing.  I also think doing it via HF radio,
is also a neat ham activity.

Anyhoo - USB would be nice on a K2.  I'm too
long winded.

Fred, N3CSY


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RE: [Elecraft] RE: K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-18 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka

Most small-volume projects I've seen just use the FTDI USB to serial
interface. Basically it moves the USB-to-serial interface into the
project.

Not real sure if it's hard to use, but check out the WinKey USB to see
an example. I also have a PIC programmer that uses the same chip. The
serial works on my Mac and my PC.

In other words, I don't think it's that big a deal.

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[Elecraft] Wayne...Eric...K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-18 Thread Fred (FL)
Back in 78, making an "QYX Intelligent"
communicating Typewriter - perform TTY over an
RS-232 port, was a big comms deal.  The PC quickly
overtook these early "PC" devices.  Whether
"President Carter's daughter" really had one -
was a rumor I had heard at a software conference then.
Probably not true.   I do know - the Wall Street
Journal, ran an ad for our product, full page - when
we completed the product for Exxon.

Being able to transmit or receive a document,
from your desktop typewriter - was a big deal,
in 1978. Messages, documents, etc.  All based on TTY
and RS-232. Of course, all over phone or data lines.  
TTY and RS-232 standards, at that time, had been
around for eons then.  Early 80's PC's did the same
thing.  I also think doing it via HF radio,
is also a neat ham activity.

Anyhoo - USB would be nice on a K2.  I'm too
long winded.

Fred, N3CSY


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[Elecraft] #5514 K2 is born! Proper care of internal battery? Protective Carrying Case?

2006-06-18 Thread Scott W. Lowe
K2 #5514 is alive and well.  After having wonderful experiences with the K1
over the past several years, I finally had the opportunity to devote nearly
every minute of the past 6 days to building the K2 (basic QRP-CW).  The rig
went together nicely, passed every test, and worked flawlessly when
completed exceeding specifications.  Today, we took the K2 into the
mountains using battery power to make the first QSOs on 40, 20, and
17-meters.  The design and operation of the radio is a work of art!  Thank
you, Elecraft.

 

Care of the battery:  What is the proper technique to care for the internal
battery?  Will the battery recharge when the switch is ‘off’ and an external
power supply is connected?  Should the internal battery switch be left on
during the recharge?  Will the battery be overcharged and damaged by leaving
the internal battery switch ‘on’ at all times with external power applied?  

 

Carrying case:  Years ago I purchased a nice case for the K1 from
Mountain-Ops Communications who seem to be out of business.  Can someone
recommend a nice protective carrying case for the K2?  Is either a Pelican
case or PowerPort Radio Box case a good choice?  

 

Thank you!

Scott, WAØTPN

K2 #5514 and K1 #733

Broadway, VA 

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RE: [Elecraft] RE: K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-18 Thread Rick Commo
Fran brought out some good points.  Thanks you Fran.  I'd like to take it a bit 
deeper.

 

Technically Elecraft could develop a set of USB based rig control semantics 
that allowed end user
programs (loggers or just simple rig controllers) to use the Windows native HID 
(Human Interface
Device) USB API (Application Programming Interface).  Other ham radio programs 
have done this.  But
it's really a bit of a hack and often falls short of what the programmer was 
trying to achieve.

 

On conjecture, let's assume that Elecraft wanted to do it the right way.  They 
would have to develop
a native "kernel mode" USB driver unique to the K2 that would be inserted into 
the "I/O stack" above
than the raw USB protocol driver.  Realistically this could be done for 
Windows.  It probably would
not be done for Linux or the Mac.  Well, now they've gone beyond just doing 
firmware that runs
inside the rig to supporting an OS driver(s).  And they would probably want to 
change the PIC chip
on the KIO card to be one with the USB serial engine built on board - more 
design and firmware
coding.  It could be done but it would be a major effort.  

 

If they are doing it right they will spend upwards of $2000 (every two years) 
to get a registered
"USB vendor ID" from the board that handles this.  Or they could just becomes 
USB-IF members at
$4000 annually.  Not a cheap thing in either case.

 

Finally people who write the application programs that we use to control the K2 
would now have to
include the Elecraft driver so that their program could work.  Chances are 
these "application"
programmers (some are really good at it, some only so-so) might not know how to 
debug problems at
the USB and/or kernel level.  Ugh, what a mess.  RS232 is a lot simpler.

 

Let's consider developing a rig control program.  With RS-232 you can take two 
computers and connect
their com ports together.  Then you could use a terminal program to see what 
your program is sending
down to the rig.  You might even quickly throw together an "emulator" for a rig 
that sends a
response back to the program.  In fact if your computer has two com ports you 
don't even need the
second computer.   

 

However all is not black for the USB only laptop crowd!  There are a number of 
USB->RS232 adapters
available.  They are inexpensive and the few that I've been lent to try out 
have worked just fine
for rig control.  They are not that expensive.  I just did a quick check at 
http://www.outpost.com
and found the cheapest at $15 ranging up to $40.

 

Using a USB->RS232 adapter lets a USB only equipped laptop work with an RS232 
protocol that probably
has been well debugged.  And rig control just doesn't need raw USB speeds.  
Anything above 4800 baud
is probably more than enough for most purposes.

 

Sorry to be long winded but I wanted to convey some idea of the ripples that 
would ensue from trying
to oblige a "simple" request like native USB control.  I have looked into doing 
this for a couple of
project that I would like to do myself.  RS232, while long in the tooth, look 
pretty good in
comparison.

 

Cheers,

-rick, K7LOG

 

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Francis Belliveau
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:27 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] RE: K2 with USB anytime soon??

 

I think that those asking the question do not fully understand all the

facts.

 

Admittedly, all computing hardware that comes with USB and RS-232 hardware

comes with drivers for this hardware.  However, USB is treated as another

bus, like PCI, and drivers must be installed for each kind of hardware

installed there.

.



.

Fran, KA4FRH

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RE: [Elecraft] Too Much Elecraft Email?

2006-06-18 Thread Bill Johnson
Or, you can sort on topics and delete the stuff of no interest or overworked
:-)

 
Bill
K9YEQ
 
K2-35 & 5279; KX1-35/3080
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[Elecraft] RFTB Tonight!

2006-06-18 Thread Larry Makoski W2LJ

Don't forget!  Only about an hour and a half to go!

RFTB tonight at 0100 UTC.

See you there!

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QRP - When you care to send the very least!

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RE: [Elecraft] Nuts and Bolts (WAS:] KX-1 KXBD1 KEYER ISSUE)

2006-06-18 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Larry AG4NN asked:

What about lag bolts?

---

In general that's a misnomer. They're correctly and commonly called "lag
screws" because, although they have a hexagonal head to fit a wrench, they
are a large wood screw. Like so many things in the English language, there
are always exceptions to the rule that are often based on "common usage" by
people who didn't know one from the other. In many places they are called
"carriage bolts". 

Last time I looked, not a single Elecraft kit uses them and I suspect that
interest on this forum in such things is "lagging", so I'll refer any
further questions to your local hardware store. 

Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] 5312 on the air

2006-06-18 Thread Cyberider
Way to go, John.  We're all glad you finally got her going.

73,
Dave
N7AF
K2 #4795

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Subject: [Elecraft] 5312 on the air
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[Elecraft] RE: K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-18 Thread Francis Belliveau
I think that those asking the question do not fully understand all the
facts.

Admittedly, all computing hardware that comes with USB and RS-232 hardware
comes with drivers for this hardware.  However, USB is treated as another
bus, like PCI, and drivers must be installed for each kind of hardware
installed there.  Since there is no way that a K2 will be of much use if it
emulater a hard drvie, keyboard or mouse, Elecraft would need to provide a
K2 driver for each operating system that they intend to support.  Remember
that Elecraft is in the Ham Radio business, not the computer hardware
business.

Furthermore, I have experience with these things in that I have fielded an
application that simultaneously interfaces with 6 serial ports and 3 USB
devices.  The serial devices are much more reliable and much easier to
troibleshoot.

So until there is a better generic communications standard, I say that the
serial port is still the best choice for a small non-computer company like
Elecraft.  Users only need to know which port they have attached their
equipment to, and if your machine doesn't have any then you can but one that
attaches to your USB port.

Fran, KA4FRH


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[Elecraft] 5312 on the air

2006-06-18 Thread John Wiener
What a great Father's Day.  Thanks to Don and Gary and countless  
others, my errors have been corrected and I'm on the air with K2  
#5312.  First QSO was with K4RGR on 20M.  Not exactly DX from Ohio  
but I'll take it.


Two thoughts come to mind: one will date me ... "what a long, strange  
trip it's been"
and "yes, it DOES take a village"  There, I got Jerry Garcia and  
Hilary R-Clinton in one sentence.  A dubious result.


What I'm trying to say is a big THANK YOU to everyone in the group  
who actively or passively followed along on my rather circuitous  
route to finishing my kit.


Don, I thanked you and Gary on eham, as well.

I really needed and appreciated the encouragement I received.  Not to  
mention the incredible depth of technical saavy.


I must warn you, I still have to install various add-ons and, of  
course the tuner and amp.  So, don't leave the theater yet.


I'm sure to screw up again.

John
AB8WH
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Re: [Elecraft] RE: PS for K1 or K2

2006-06-18 Thread Able2fly
 
In a message dated 6/17/2006 10:34:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Looks  like the big (35A etc.) Astrons are 
in favor.



In lieu of a small switching P/S I am using the somewhat  heavy but dead 
quiet Astron RS-7A  that is as quiet as a battery on my K2.  I picked up one on 
the auction site for $15 recently.
 
Bill  K3UJ
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[Elecraft] Tech tip: more convenient inductance zeroing with AADE meter

2006-06-18 Thread wayne burdick
I soldered a small momentary pushbutton switch directly to the small 
PCB that AADE supplies with their L/C meter. After selecting inductance 
measurement, I hold in this pushbutton, then press the meter's ZERO 
switch.


This is more convenient than hunting for a metal-tipped tuning tool or 
holding a piece of wire across the terminals.


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Nuts and Bolts (WAS:] KX-1 KXBD1 KEYER ISSUE)

2006-06-18 Thread L. D. Ingram

Dave W5SV wrote:

I am guessing, but my understanding is that to fasten a screw, you turn
the screw; to fasten a bolt, you turn the nut (not the bolt)... at
least, that is how I differentiate between the two, rather than on what
kind of hear they have.



Ron AC7AC wrote:

A "bolt" is specifically a screw that is cylindrical: it always takes a nut.

Egad! Even nuts, bolts and screws can get complicated!

--

What about lag bolts?

Larry Ingram  AG4NN


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[Elecraft] Nuts and Bolts (WAS:] KX-1 KXBD1 KEYER ISSUE)

2006-06-18 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Dave W5SV wrote:

I am guessing, but my understanding is that to fasten a screw, you turn 
the screw; to fasten a bolt, you turn the nut (not the bolt)... at 
least, that is how I differentiate between the two, rather than on what 
kind of hear they have.



With regards to fasteners (since there are other types of nuts, bolts and
screws): 

A "nut" is the part of a fastener with the threaded hole. 

A "screw" is the part of the fastener with a threaded shaft. Unless it is an
integral part of some larger assembly, it always has a head larger than the
shaft. The shaft may be cylindrical, such as a screw that mates with a nut,
or the shaft may be conical, such as a wood screw or self-tapping metal
screw that does not take a nut. Obviously, a conical screw must be turned to
tighten it since there is no "nut". 

A "bolt" is specifically a screw that is cylindrical: it always takes a nut.
In the common vernacular, "bolt" is most often used to describe a large
screw, (e.g. we usually refer to a "10/32 screw" but usually a "1/4-inch
bolt"). Some bolts, like "stove bolts", have heads specifically designed to
grip the material being fastened. They have a smoothly rounded top that is
not designed to be gripped by a tool, so in that special case the nut is the
part of the fastener that must be tightened.

Egad! Even nuts, bolts and screws can get complicated!  

Ron AC7AC

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Re: [Elecraft] KX-1 and Zero-beat Tuning Indicator?

2006-06-18 Thread n2htt
I have one in my KX1 and it's the best accessory.

I operate all the time from an external 10-cell NiMH pack, and I haven't 
noticed any difference whatsoever. 

You only see very brief flashes while tuning around. When you've got a signal 
zeroed in it's flashing with the signal, but if you figure conservatively that 
CW has a 50% duty cycle ( I think it's actually less than that) and the LED 
draws maybe 10ma, and you are transmitting 50% of the time in a QSO, it works 
out to not worth worrying about.

On the other hand, the ability to zero beat the other guy priceless.

73,
Mike N2HTT

- Original Message -
From: Scott Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sunday, June 18, 2006 1:07 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] KX-1 and Zero-beat Tuning Indicator?

> Just curious if anyone who has installed the K6XX SMD zero-beat 
> board in their KX-1 has noted or even noticed how much it reduces 
> the battery life?  It would seem to me that if it is flashing all 
> the time as you tune around and QSO that it would have a 
> significant effect...
> I haven't installed mine yet, and am on the fence about doing it.
> -Scott N3SW
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Re: [Elecraft] KX-1 KXBD1 KEYER ISSUE

2006-06-18 Thread David F. Reed

Ken,

I am guessing, but my understanding is that to fasten a screw, you turn 
the screw; to fasten a bolt, you turn the nut (not the bolt)... at 
least, that is how I differentiate between the two, rather than on what 
kind of hear they have.


Depending on where the washer is located, it may or may not be 
"correct"; by that I mean the body of the paddle is meant to be flat 
against the case of the KX1.


Best regards and good luck and enjoyment with it.

73 de Dave, W5SV

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks to all that helped me with this issue...

My final solution was to add a #6 lock washer (this was almost enough) then
to carefully disk the end of the knerled Bolt (the group seems to call it aq
screw) with a drummel..

Dah Dah it is fixed...

Thank you all agian


Ken K1UM
  

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[Elecraft] OT: Hakko and Icom PS wired for 220VAC

2006-06-18 Thread J F
Someone I know has several items from a stay in Hong
Kong wired for 220. One is a Hakko Soldering station,
the other is an Icom Power Supply. I don't have the
model numbers.

Can they be rewired internally for 110 service? I
suspect the Icom can, if it's anything like Yaesu
supplies.

Thanks in advance for any help,

Julius
n2wn
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[Elecraft] KX-1 and Zero-beat Tuning Indicator?

2006-06-18 Thread Scott Walker
Just curious if anyone who has installed the K6XX SMD zero-beat board in their 
KX-1 has noted or even noticed how much it reduces the battery life?  It would 
seem to me that if it is flashing all the time as you tune around and QSO that 
it would have a significant effect...
I haven't installed mine yet, and am on the fence about doing it.
-Scott N3SW
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[Elecraft] KX-1 KXBD1 KEYER ISSUE

2006-06-18 Thread k1um
Thanks to all that helped me with this issue...

My final solution was to add a #6 lock washer (this was almost enough) then
to carefully disk the end of the knerled Bolt (the group seems to call it aq
screw) with a drummel..

Dah Dah it is fixed...

Thank you all agian


Ken K1UM

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[Elecraft] KX1 s/n:1476

2006-06-18 Thread Vin Cortina
KX1 serial number 1476 has passed test and alignment part 1 flawlessly. 
I love these guys.


Vin Cortina KR2F
K1-4 s/n:1977

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[Elecraft] Unbuilt K1-2 #95 80/40 kit for sale or trade

2006-06-18 Thread Robert L Kalkwarf
Hi, I have an un-opened K1-2 Serial 95 with 80/40mtr that I would  
like to trade for a KX1 that someone may have that is unfinished or  
in need of repair.


Bob W7WO

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[Elecraft] Wayne...Eric...K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-18 Thread Fred (FL)
Way back when, 78, I wrote the "RS-232 QTTY
Interface" software for the then Exxon "QYX
Intelligent Typewriter".  I remember when I started
that project, looking up the RS-232 Standard - at that
time I recall it was an old Bell standard interface -
both hardware and software functionality.
And at that time in 1978, the standard had been
long used and in many dusty archives then.  Of course
the QYX product promised to conform 100% with the then
RS-232 standard.

A couple months later, when we got the QYX
typewriter's QTTY package working - Exxon was all
happy that their product could send receive files
and messages, coast to coast.  Then IBM's "PC"
came on the market in 81 - and the Intelligent
Typewriter slowly fell out of favor.  I recall,
President Carter's daughter was reportedly one
of our first customers, or so rumors told us.

I too, here here, 2nd the suggestion for a USB
interface for my K2 # 5422.  Perhaps throw out
the code for the RS-232, and make the space
available for USB code if space need be.

Fred N3CSY
73's


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[Elecraft] Wayne...Eric...K2 with USB anytime soon??

2006-06-18 Thread Phil Townsend


Seems to me most computers today are USB as a standard...
I've put up with that stupid RS232 (standard???) for many more years than I
care to think. 


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[QRP-L] Trail Report

2006-06-18 Thread n0tu/Steve

Yesterday was FUN. Of course it went different than planned. Hiked in
to the FD site about 45minutes from TH. Then I spent more time
slinging the weight and untangling string from brush to get the silly
antenna up than operating. Started out w/88' CFZ fed w/40' RS twin
lead (hung @35' inverted vee fashiion) - Actually I didn't measure it
exactly but that's what I rolled off at OEM the local electronic
surplus candy store - so it may have really been 90-92'. Loaded great
on 20/30 w/KX1 but 9:1 on 40m according to the KX1's ATU? So I folded
back the ends on themselves about ~6' and SWR droped to 3.5:1 on 40m
while 20/30m still were 1.1:1 range. Could have trimmed it more but I
was burning daylight!

Cndx were so-so, weak sigs + slow QSB? It was getting on into the AM
so 40m was getting short. I couldn't raise anyone on 40m. Headed to
30m. it was busy with CHers (I think) on to 20m where I had 3-short Qs
on 20m with: n6voh/Barry in CA, nf0z /Larry in AZ and my bro-inlaw
ac7ma/Rich in WA Got good reprts considering the CNDX. Goats we're
getting restless butting heads etc. and got tangled in my feedline
while sparing and jerted the feedline outa the ATU!. So I finished the
Q with Rich on my cell. Never got to the EF setup before I ran outa
time. I got home just in time to spread horse manure w/tractor and
spreader for 7-hrs!! It's the same type of work I do at job! =8-)

Conclussion was YMMV
Steve/n0tu
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: UK import duty

2006-06-18 Thread Alexandra Carter
Except that, having a car isn't as required in the UK as in the US,  
and I don't think you have average ppl in the UK doing 20K miles a  
year. I myself am quite a light driver, only doing about 7k a year.  
And, car insurance in the US is generally $100 a month and up, not  
sure what it is in the UK.


73 de Alex NS6Y

On Jun 18, 2006, at 1:19 AM, Nick Waterman wrote:


David [M0WAM] wrote:
 Sorry to continue such an OT thread, but you US citizens should  
really

count your blessings...

In 2002 total tax burdens as percentage of GNP were:


S, nobody tell them how much we pay for petrol - they'd have a
heart attack if their "gas" cost anywhere near as much

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