Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-07-08 Thread David Woolley

Bill Coleman wrote:

What you'd end up with for the "receiver" would be a Mixer and clean 
DDS, followed by a high-speed, wide-range A/D converter. Everything else 


I don't understand why you write about such things as in the future. 
There are several products on the amateur market, although I don't know 
if any of them use a DDS VFO.


The interesting part of this approach is that we can re-define what we 
mean by a receiver. The detection portion of the radio need not resolve 
to the width of an audio channel. Consider a receiver that can decode 
every CW signal in a 50 kHz portion of the band. Simultaneously. How 
useful would that be?


The telcos where doing direct digital conversion from analogue carrier 
systems to multiple PCM channels a long time ago.  I think before your 
1995 article.



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RE: [Elecraft] KPA100 build time?

2007-07-08 Thread Jim Murray
Brett,
Can the KPA100 be built without having the K2 on hand?
 Contemplating building one while in Fla. this winter
and was not planning to take the K2.  Is it possible
to build it and drop it in when I get back or are
there tests etc. along the way that require the K2?
tnx
Jim/k2hn
k2- 6107

--- Brett gazdzinski
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>  In my case, it was about 3 days working on it after
> work, from say 6pm to 11 or 12 pm.
> 
> It goes by all to fast
> 
> On one hand, I want to get it done and test it, but
> as soon as its done,
> what's left to do (other than use it).
> 
> Brett
> N2DTS
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Fw: [Elecraft] Need Elecraft CHAT

2007-07-08 Thread Ken Kopp

Charlie,

"As a new guy to the Elecraft reflector ..."  Perhaps you're judging 
"us"

too quickly.  "Heated exchanges" are rare and might not be as heated
as they seem.  Perhaps you should take time "know" the "regulars" on
the reflector and their personalities, and -THEN- ... maybe ... make a
judgement call.

Most calls for help are met by various list members based on their
particular "specialties".  Elecraft folks rarely need to respond to 
requests

for help.

I've not seen anyone "on their case about delivery dates".

-NO- reflector meets the needs and/or expectations of each and every
user.  Wayne does a fine job moderating the reflector.  It -IS- 
Electraft's
to run as he sees fit.  It's presumptious of you to attempt to tell him 
how

to make it into something that meets with your approval.

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 SSB

2007-07-08 Thread Greg
K3 tuning is very versitile.

You can select tuning rate, course or fine tuning, and how many counts per
turn of the encoder (100, 200 and 400).

73
Greg
AB7R


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Coleman
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:19 PM
To: Kenneth E.Harker
Cc: elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB



On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:

> Most desktop size HF radios allow at least 10 Hz tuning resolution at
> 10 kHz per knob revolution (that's what the Yaesu FT-1000MP does, for
> example).  With the K2, you can get a 10 kHz per knob revolution at
> 100 Hz
> tuning, or 10 Hz tuning at just 1 kHz per knob revolution.

Nope. It's 5 kHz per knob revolution. While you can only see 100 Hz
on the display, the radio is actually tuning in 50 Hz steps. There's
no way to select 100 Hz steps.

My ancient TS-430S does 9.6 kHz per revolution (960 10 Hz steps). An
old FT-101 does about 15 kHz per revolution.

So, if 10-15 kHz per revolution is OK for these rigs with 2" diameter
knobs, what's wrong with 5 kHz / revolution on the K2, with it's much
smaller knob? It seems like about the same rate.

> ... and having to turn the tuning dial
> three or four complete revolutions to get to the next station up or
> down
> the band is also not going to work.

With the 50 Hz tuning rate, you have to turn the knob about 1/2 a
turn to go to the next slot. On other radios, you'd turn it about 1/4
a turn, of a much larger knob.

> I've tried replacing the optical encoder in the K2 with one that is
> higher
> resolution.  If you go with one that has four times as many steps per
> revolution as the stock encoder, you can have 10 Hz tuning
> resolution and
> get 4 KHz per knob revolution.

Why not go with one that has twice as many steps and use 50 Hz steps
-- that would be 10 kHz / revolution.

> I think an audio monitor is invaluable to a phone contester.  You can
> always tell when your signal sounds OK and when it might be getting
> rough due to unforeseen RF getting in the mic lines, some
> unexpected ground
> loop problem, etc.  When doing SO2R with a voice keyer, it's extremely
> helpful to know what you're transmitting so you can judge the
> timing of
> your second radio activity.

When I first did SO2R, it was at W4AN's (SK) mountaintop
superstation. Bill's advice to me was to turn the monitor all the way
down on the IC-761 main radio. I indicated that I preferred to hear
the monitor. During the course of the contest, I kept turning the
monitor down and down. By about the sixth hour of the contest, I had
it all the way off. He was right.

Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report for July 8th & 9th, 2007

2007-07-08 Thread Kevin Rock

Good Evening,
   I had a little QRN here in Oregon but Tom spoke of S9 noise.  He  
deserves a medal for working all the stations he did on forty.  There were  
a couple we just could not drag out but they may have been wanting someone  
else because I replied to II and RN twice with no response.  Twenty meters  
was better but it seemed very long.  When Tom turned his antenna away from  
me he almost disappeared.  But then I heard a little of the contact with  
LZ1VB.  There was enough time for me to grab my log book and figure out  
where that station may be located.  Bulgaria?  Whoa, that is a long way!   
I could hear Val but not well enough to copy very much.
   I need to band this hummingbird.  I caught another male Allen's but I  
do not think the same bird could make the same mistake twice.  This one  
flew around a little more but once he landed I caught him between thumb  
and forefinger.  He looked at me but was rather calm; well as calm as you  
can be with a pulse of a thousand beats per minute :)  Got off the ladder  
and outside fairly quickly.  I released my light hold on him and he just  
sat there until I told him he could go if he wanted.  He looked at me,  
tasted my hand, and then flew off.  I cannot imagine them migrating for  
thousands of miles but they do.


   On to the lists =>

  On 14050 kHz at 2300z:
N0SS - Tom - MO - K2 - 008
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K2 - 43
KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031  I am glad you did not melt!
AK2B - Tom - NY - K2 - 4482
W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767
VE3XL - Ric - ON - K1 - 968
WB3AAL - Ron - PA - K2 - 1392QNI #15!!
K2HYD - Ray - NC - KX1 - 608
LZ1VB - Val - Bulgaria - ?
K1THP - Dave - CT - K2 - 3942
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
N7KRT - Jeff - NV - K2 - 5471
K6DGW - Fred - CA - K2 - 4398

  On 7044.5 kHz at 0200z:
N0SS - Tom - MO - K2 - 008 * QNI #215 *
W6ZH - Pete - CA - K2 - 43
KL7CW - Rick - AK - KX1 - 798
N7KRT - Jeff - NV - K2 - 5471
W0RSR - Mike - CO - K2 - 5767QNI #30!!
N0AR - Scott - MN - K2 - 4866
VE3XL - Ric - ON - K1 - 968
W0CZ - Ken - ND - K2 - 1031
K1THP - Dave - CT - K2 - 3942QNI #15!!
N2YC - John - NY - KX1 - 336 QNI #25!!
WA0QZK - Jack - IN - ?
W6WY - Pete - CA - K2 - 2403 Welcome back!

  Thank you all for an enjoyable evening.  It is nice to hear you all on  
the air sending your reports.  Sounds like some of you are very warm.  If  
you get a chance you can come sit on my porch.  Literally sit on the porch  
since Sam has adopted my chair!  Since it is no longer raining I can move  
it to where I can read.  He does not mind if you pick him up and set him  
upon your lap.  But, he does drool if he gets to purring heavily.  Next  
thing you know his claws start to extend and you'll get a sharp surprise;  
it means he likes you.  Next he may start to chew on your hand but that's  
gotten easier to deal with over the years since he has lost a number of  
teeth ;)  It does get noisy though with the wind through the fir trees and  
the hummingbirds battling over the feeder.  Just pay that no mind and  
enjoy the pleasant weather.

   Until next week, stay well,
  73,
 Kevin.  KD5ONS  (Net Control Operator 5th Class)




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RE: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

Thom:

Yes to both.

73,

Steve
AA4AK
K2 S/N 5383

At 08:52 PM 7/8/2007, Thom LaCosta wrote:

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Stephen W. Kercel wrote:

With all due respect to Elecraft, I would think that a prudent 
person would treat the rollout of a radical new piece of gear in 
much the same way as one treats a new release of Windows. There is 
no use buying it until its been on the market for at least two 
years, so that the vendor can get the inevitable kinks out of both 
the product, and their sales/support of it.


Do you own any Elecradt gear?  Did you actually wait 2 years from 
introduction to buy it(them)?



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[Elecraft] Oscilloscopes?

2007-07-08 Thread Richard Hill
I'm considering getting an oscilloscope and could use suggestions for an 
inexpensive used scope.

Has anyone used the Pico Tech software scopes?  The entry level USB scope runs 
about $250.


Rich
NU6T
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB

2007-07-08 Thread Bill Coleman


On Jun 22, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:


Most desktop size HF radios allow at least 10 Hz tuning resolution at
10 kHz per knob revolution (that's what the Yaesu FT-1000MP does, for
example).  With the K2, you can get a 10 kHz per knob revolution at  
100 Hz

tuning, or 10 Hz tuning at just 1 kHz per knob revolution.


Nope. It's 5 kHz per knob revolution. While you can only see 100 Hz  
on the display, the radio is actually tuning in 50 Hz steps. There's  
no way to select 100 Hz steps.


My ancient TS-430S does 9.6 kHz per revolution (960 10 Hz steps). An  
old FT-101 does about 15 kHz per revolution.


So, if 10-15 kHz per revolution is OK for these rigs with 2" diameter  
knobs, what's wrong with 5 kHz / revolution on the K2, with it's much  
smaller knob? It seems like about the same rate.



... and having to turn the tuning dial
three or four complete revolutions to get to the next station up or  
down

the band is also not going to work.


With the 50 Hz tuning rate, you have to turn the knob about 1/2 a  
turn to go to the next slot. On other radios, you'd turn it about 1/4  
a turn, of a much larger knob.


I've tried replacing the optical encoder in the K2 with one that is  
higher

resolution.  If you go with one that has four times as many steps per
revolution as the stock encoder, you can have 10 Hz tuning  
resolution and

get 4 KHz per knob revolution.


Why not go with one that has twice as many steps and use 50 Hz steps  
-- that would be 10 kHz / revolution.



I think an audio monitor is invaluable to a phone contester.  You can
always tell when your signal sounds OK and when it might be getting
rough due to unforeseen RF getting in the mic lines, some  
unexpected ground

loop problem, etc.  When doing SO2R with a voice keyer, it's extremely
helpful to know what you're transmitting so you can judge the  
timing of

your second radio activity.


When I first did SO2R, it was at W4AN's (SK) mountaintop  
superstation. Bill's advice to me was to turn the monitor all the way  
down on the IC-761 main radio. I indicated that I preferred to hear  
the monitor. During the course of the contest, I kept turning the  
monitor down and down. By about the sixth hour of the contest, I had  
it all the way off. He was right.


Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASELMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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-- Wilbur Wright, 1901

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[Elecraft] K1-2 2277 Watt meter comparison?

2007-07-08 Thread Richard Hill
I'm considering building either the W1 or the Oak HIlls WM-2 to assist trouble 
shooting a K1 and other first projects.  I'm working to track down a K1-2 20m 
alignment problem (20m crystal problem?).


Rich
NU6T
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Re: [Elecraft] Need Elecraft CHAT

2007-07-08 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Mon, 9 Jul 2007, Charles Harpole wrote:

As a new guy to the Elecraft reflector, I am quite surprised about the number 
of off topic posts and heated exchanges there.  Clearly, these reflector 
members have a strong need for a CHAT outlet.


There is at least oneno one uses it.

items back on the main reflector and allowed its users greater ease in 
knowing when to use the delete key.


One would think that users have enough skills to use the delete key.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 SSB

2007-07-08 Thread Bill Coleman


On Jun 22, 2007, at 8:21 AM, Kenneth E. Harker wrote:

I am a K2 owner and a serious phone contester.  I do not use the K2  
for

contesting.  The two biggest flaws are (a) the tuning rate of the main
tuning knob is awful for serious phone use and cannot be improved, and
(b) there is no audio monitor.


a) you can select the 50 Hz tuning rate, which does OK for tuning  
phone. In fact, one of my wish list items for the K2 is to have the  
default tuning rate track the mode, so you don't have to keep  
switching it. 50 Hz tuning yields 5 kHz / revolution.


b) do you really need to listen to yourself? If you are using two  
radios, you don't want the monitor at all.



The K3 will fix both of these problems
as well as adding a second receiver option (useful for 40 meters split
operation) among other improvements for the phone operator.


The K3 is better for serious contesting in many ways, but the K2 does  
hold its own.


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[Elecraft] Need Elecraft CHAT

2007-07-08 Thread Charles Harpole
As a new guy to the Elecraft reflector, I am quite surprised about the 
number of off topic posts and heated exchanges there.  Clearly, these 
reflector members have a strong need for a CHAT outlet.


So I suggest following the DX reflector of njdxa fame which solved the need 
for chat by opening a separate chat line that kept the important and 
on-topic items back on the main reflector and allowed its users greater ease 
in knowing when to use the delete key.


Maybe this is a need here???  I can not imagine the pain of an Elecraft 
employee who must wade thru all the drivil on their reflector just to find 
the very few real posts that need help.  I was a part time ham radio dealer 
and seller and the greatest pain was dealing with only potential customers 
who did not want to purchase, only to find someone who would talk to them.  
BTW that function is available ON THE AIR use that to get the Chat out 
of ur system and leave Elecraft to build fine radios. PS get off their 
case about delivery dates. there was no secret that a wait was in the 
cards 73


Charles Harpole
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3

2007-07-08 Thread Lyle Johnson

Can Wayne, Eric or anyone else comment more on the KAT3
design?  Specifically, how is the matching network configured,
is it "balanced" or "unbalanced" and is there any balun built-in?


Unbalanced, uses SO239 coax connectors.  Think of it as being like the 
KAT100 in capability, but inside the K3.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] K2DSP - Does not remember settings

2007-07-08 Thread Lyle Johnson
My K2DSP does not remember it's settings upon power-down. I can place it in 
bypass mode before powering down, but it does not remain in bypass upon 
power-up. 


The KDSP2 does remember settings.  Bypass is the exception.  That is 
because the DSP is powered down.  It doesn't remember you want it to be 
powered down when you power it back on, so it powers back on.  If you 
want it to be in bypassmode, you have to tell it so when you power it up.


73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
But they would have to end up in Chennai (Madras).

73, doug

   Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:55:04 -0400 (EDT)
   From: Thom LaCosta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

   On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, W2AGN wrote:

   >
   >
   > Hey, no problem. You go right ahead and wait 2 years. Meanwhile, the rest 
of us
   > will be enjoying our K3s.

   Perhaps Aptos can create a "Ye of Little Faith" production run.  I believe 
the 
   guy that oversees that on is named Thomas.

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Re: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of moneyhere" [END of Thread]

2007-07-08 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Folks,

Lets let this thread rest for now. Its starting to degenerate..

Also, please refrain from direct attacks or characterizations of others 
on the list. Continued argumentative or personal attacks will be cause 
for removal.


And a general note - Try to restrain the urge to post your opinion on 
all topics. The higher the list traffic, the less time we have to get 
your K3's out the door. ;-)


73, Eric  WA6HHQ
(With my List Moderator hat on..)
==

Thom LaCosta wrote:

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, W2AGN wrote:
Hey, no problem. You go right ahead and wait 2 years. Meanwhile, the 
rest of us

will be enjoying our K3s.
Perhaps Aptos can create a "Ye of Little Faith" production run.  I 
believe the guy that oversees that on is named .

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Re: [Elecraft] Extended Warranty

2007-07-08 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Bill Tippett wrote:


   This is just a reminder to all who pay
by credit card.  You're probably eligible for an
extended warranty under your credit card which
extend Elecraft's standard 1 year warranty to
2 years.


Strongly suggest you call your issuing bank to confirm that
they offer that benefit.  You might be surprized by the number
and "reputation" of the banks that do not.

When they tell me they don't offer it, I simply tell them I
will use their card for gasoline and other products that
do not have warranties that can be extended.


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Re: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, W2AGN wrote:




Hey, no problem. You go right ahead and wait 2 years. Meanwhile, the rest of us
will be enjoying our K3s.


Perhaps Aptos can create a "Ye of Little Faith" production run.  I believe the 
guy that oversees that on is named Thomas.


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RE: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Stephen W. Kercel wrote:

With all due respect to Elecraft, I would think that a prudent person would 
treat the rollout of a radical new piece of gear in much the same way as one 
treats a new release of Windows. There is no use buying it until its been on 
the market for at least two years, so that the vendor can get the inevitable 
kinks out of both the product, and their sales/support of it.


Do you own any Elecradt gear?  Did you actually wait 2 years from introduction 
to buy it(them)?



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Re: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of moneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Julian G4ILO wrote:



This mailing list's spam filter has blocked 3 attempts by me to reply
to this thread. I think spam filters are more likely to be blame for
the lack of communication being complained of than any failings at
Elecraft.


How do you know that?  Did you get a message saying it was blocked?  Was there a 
reason?


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Re: [Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?

2007-07-08 Thread Thom LaCosta

On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

There were way too many ordered. (A nice problem to have..)  I know everyone 
expects their's to ship the first day, but we will be getting them out the 
door as fast as possible! :-) Please be patient.


Maybe you could offer a lower serial number for the folks who would allow you to 
ship theirs later.  I suspect many would rather have that than a discount, but a 
certain number would request both.


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RE: [Elecraft] KPA100 build time?

2007-07-08 Thread Brett gazdzinski
 In my case, it was about 3 days working on it after
work, from say 6pm to 11 or 12 pm.

It goes by all to fast

On one hand, I want to get it done and test it, but as soon as its done,
what's left to do (other than use it).

Brett
N2DTS

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: CQ FT243 crystals

2007-07-08 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 7/8/07 6:14:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:


> My first "commercial" radio was a Heathkit DX20

That was my first nonhomebrew tx as well.

If you are not familiar with it, the Glowbugs reflector is a good source of
info and parts for classics like the DX-20. A considerable number of
Elecrafters are also glowbuggers.

Check out:

http://www.mines.uidaho.edu/~glowbugs/



73 de Jim, N2EY


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 RS323 and Data Modes {was YAQ - Yet Another (K3)Question}

2007-07-08 Thread Bill Coleman


On Jun 19, 2007, at 9:42 AM, Brian Lloyd wrote:

Not true. The K3 converts from A:D as a step in the second IF. The  
final filtering takes place in the K3's DSP as does the demodulation.


If you then go to a soundcard you are now adding another conversion  
and a third IF. The K3's second IF (DSP) does its conversion and  
filtering but then does a conversion to a third IF, including a  
conversion from digital back to analog. We tend think of this as  
audio but it really is not. It is a third IF with no control over  
the AGC. The final amplification, filtering, and demodulation now  
takes place in the computer's DSP.


One way of simplifying this whole process is to move the radio into  
the computer. This is in line with a prediction I made way back in  
1995 on the CQ-Contest list -- that the radio of the future would be  
inside the computer. In 1995, processors were just appearing that had  
sufficient DSP capability to do this. 12 years later, it would take a  
relatively insignificant portion of the main CPU (or just a portion  
of a few cores, as multi-core machines are now common).


What you'd end up with for the "receiver" would be a Mixer and clean  
DDS, followed by a high-speed, wide-range A/D converter. Everything  
else would be done in the host computer. The "transmitter" would go  
the opposite way, a D/A converter followed by a mixer fed by a DDS.  
Power amplification could be external to the computer (if the  
transceiver were a card).


The interesting part of this approach is that we can re-define what  
we mean by a receiver. The detection portion of the radio need not  
resolve to the width of an audio channel. Consider a receiver that  
can decode every CW signal in a 50 kHz portion of the band.  
Simultaneously. How useful would that be?


It also would be good to sell the receiver and transmitters  
separately. That way, obtaining the two receiver, one transmitter  
configuration needed by SO2R operation could be inexpensively obtained.


Of course, to achieve the IMD and dynamic range of the K3, the mixer  
and A/D would be pretty marvelous pieces of equipment.


Let me put it another way: one of the reasons that the Elecraft  
receivers work so well is that they do fewer conversions and use  
lower IF frequencies so that they can put good filtering as far  
forward in the chain as possible. This gets rid of products that  
could cause IMD in later stages.


It's still possible to get good IMD characteristics with an up- 
conversion general-coverage receiver. There are some $10,000 radios  
on the market that do exactly this.


Elecraft has apparently mastered the art of offering high-performance  
gear at an excellent price point.


I want a whole boatload of demodulators there in the K3's DSP with  
access coming out to me in some convenient fashion -- like on an  
ethernet connector.


Sounds like what you really want is something more like the 1995 pipe  
dream.


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[Elecraft] WTB: KDSP2 - Found One.....

2007-07-08 Thread NZ8J
Found one - thanks!
Tim
NZ8J

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Subject: [Elecraft] WTB: KDSP2


Anyone have a KDSP2 that they have decided they don't need and would
like to sell?  If so please send details to include price shipped to zip
45324. Thanks 
Tim
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Re: [Elecraft] K2DSP - Does not remember settings

2007-07-08 Thread w6jd
That is right. the KDSP2 has no memory at power down. It is my understanding 
that
there is not enough processor memory to store the parameters.

Doug
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-- Original message -- 
From: joey mcg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 

> My K2DSP does not remember it's settings upon power-down. I can place it in 
> bypass mode before powering down, but it does not remain in bypass upon 
> power-up. 
> 
> Is this normal? 
> 
> Thanks. 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3

2007-07-08 Thread wayne burdick

Hi Adam,

The KAT3 is a wide-range tuner based on an L-network with switchable 
lo/hi Z. It tunes quickly, using our proven 3-stage firmware algorithm. 
LC data is saved for many segments in each band, so you'll rarely need 
to re-tune.


There are two antenna jacks, and the settings are saved for both 
antennas on all bands. You select the antenna using the front panel ANT 
switch. You can also assign names to each antenna (e.g., "YAGI", 
"VERT2"). The name is briefly displayed when you change antennas or 
bands as a reminder.


There's a separate connector for the KRX3 subreceiver, which can take 
its input from the main receiver's RF path, or from the antenna jack 
not being used by the main receiver.


Both antenna inputs are protected by gas-discharge tubes and bleeder 
resistors. The jack that goes to the KRX3 is protected in addition by a 
carrier-operated relay on the KRX3 module itself.


73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Jul 8, 2007, at 1:29 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Listhost archives seem to be down at the moment, so apologies
if the following question has already been asked:

Can Wayne, Eric or anyone else comment more on the KAT3
design?  Specifically, how is the matching network configured,
is it "balanced" or "unbalanced" and is there any balun built-in?

Thanks,

Adam, N1KO
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[Elecraft] Extended Warranty

2007-07-08 Thread Bill Tippett



AA4AK:
>There is no use buying it until its been on the market
for at least two years, so that the vendor can get the
inevitable kinks out of both the product, and their
sales/support of it.

This is just a reminder to all who pay
by credit card.  You're probably eligible for an
extended warranty under your credit card which
extend Elecraft's standard 1 year warranty to
2 years.  I've used this service a number of times
with various products and the claims process is
very simple and actually pleasant.  You'll need
your original invoice, credit card slip (if not
shown on the invoice) and a copy of Elecraft's
warranty (in the manual).  I would suggest you
staple the credit card slip and invoice into the
back of your manual for safe-keeping.

With firmware updates, a 2-year warranty,
modular design and low shipping costs due to the
K3's low weight, I'm not concerned about ordering
early.  I did the same with my Orion and returned
it just before the end of the same 2-year warranty
for a minor problem with the display.  Ten-Tec
replaced the display, performed a complete
hardware update and returned my unit which was
exactly the same as a new one from the production
line (of course no return is even necessary for
firmware updates).  The credit card company paid
for the complete cost including shipping and I
had a 100% up-to-date unit at the end of 2 years.

So...don't worry, be happy...and be
sure to save your credit card slip and invoice!

73,  Bill  W4ZV

P.S.  The following is for MasterCard but Visa
(and others) have similar programs:

To get coverage:
> You must purchase the new item entirely with your MasterCard card 
for yourself or to give

as a gift.
> The item must have an original manufacturer's (or U.S. store 
brand) warranty of twelve (12)

months or less.
> The original purchase does not have to be registered to receive 
this benefit.


The kind of coverage you receive:
> Extended Warranty doubles the original warranty time period and 
duplicates the coverage of the
original manufacturer's (or U.S. store brand) warranty up to a 
maximum of twelve (12) months
on most items you purchase. For products with multiple warranty 
components, each warranty

time period will be duplicated up to a maximum of twelve (12) months.

http://www.mastercard.com/cardholderservices/guidetobenefits/pdf/gtb_smartshopper_2005.pdf 


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[Elecraft] K2DSP - Does not remember settings

2007-07-08 Thread joey mcg
My K2DSP does not remember it's settings upon power-down.  I can place it in 
bypass mode before powering down, but it does not remain in bypass upon 
power-up.
   
  Is this normal?
   
  Thanks.
   
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[Elecraft] re: KAT3

2007-07-08 Thread adamkern
P.S. I just realized there's a backup listhost server.  Oops.
 Original question still stands.

N1KO
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[Elecraft] KAT3

2007-07-08 Thread adamkern
Listhost archives seem to be down at the moment, so apologies
if the following question has already been asked:

Can Wayne, Eric or anyone else comment more on the KAT3
design?  Specifically, how is the matching network configured,
is it "balanced" or "unbalanced" and is there any balun built-in?

Thanks,

Adam, N1KO
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Re: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread W2AGN
Stephen W. Kercel wrote:
> John:
> 
> I'll admit that there is virtually no chance of Elecraft losing a
> billion dollars (or any money at all) by releasing a system before it is
> ready.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Steve
> AA4AK
> 


Hey, no problem. You go right ahead and wait 2 years. Meanwhile, the rest of us
will be enjoying our K3s.
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RE: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking....."

2007-07-08 Thread Bill NY9H



Isn't it great that we all have choices.

Like I am going to wait two years ,,, or
I am not going to wait two yearsmaybe three weeks

all because we have choices, which we make on our own criteria.

first batch Bill   ny9h




At 01:35 PM 7/8/2007, Stephen W. Kercel wrote:
With all due respect to Elecraft, I would think that a prudent 
person would treat the rollout of a radical new piece of gear in 
much the same way as one treats a new release of Windows. There is 
no use buying it until its been on the market for at least two 
years, so that the vendor can get the inevitable kinks out of both 
the product, and their sales/support of it.


73,

Steve Kercel
AA4AK


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Re: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Stephen W. Kercel

John:

I'll admit that there is virtually no chance of Elecraft losing a 
billion dollars (or any money at all) by releasing a system before it is ready.


73,

Steve
AA4AK

At 02:37 PM 7/8/2007, W2AGN wrote:

Stephen W. Kercel wrote:
> With all due respect to Elecraft, I would think that a prudent person
> would treat the rollout of a radical new piece of gear in much the same
> way as one treats a new release of Windows. There is no use buying it
> until its been on the market for at least two years, so that the vendor
> can get the inevitable kinks out of both the product, and their
> sales/support of it.
>
> 73,
>
> Steve Kercel
> AA4AK
>

Elecraft is NOT Microsoft (thank God!).

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Re: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread W2AGN
Stephen W. Kercel wrote:
> With all due respect to Elecraft, I would think that a prudent person
> would treat the rollout of a radical new piece of gear in much the same
> way as one treats a new release of Windows. There is no use buying it
> until its been on the market for at least two years, so that the vendor
> can get the inevitable kinks out of both the product, and their
> sales/support of it.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Steve Kercel
> AA4AK
> 

Elecraft is NOT Microsoft (thank God!).

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RE: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Stephen W. Kercel
With all due respect to Elecraft, I would think that a prudent person 
would treat the rollout of a radical new piece of gear in much the 
same way as one treats a new release of Windows. There is no use 
buying it until its been on the market for at least two years, so 
that the vendor can get the inevitable kinks out of both the product, 
and their sales/support of it.


73,

Steve Kercel
AA4AK


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RE: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Craig Rairdin
>>  To quote one of G4AON's countrymen, "Methinks thou doth
>> protest too much."...and you might also want to make sure
>> your ISP or SPAM filter is not blocking elecraft.com.

>This mailing list's spam filter has blocked 3 attempts by me to reply
>to this thread. I think spam filters are more likely to be blame for
>the lack of communication being complained of than any failings at
>Elecraft.

LOL. This is the kind of blind, pie-in-the-sky loyalty and defensiveness I'm
talking about. :-) I love Elecraft as much as anyone but they're not
infallible and blameless. Like I said before, my last order was really
messed up, and my last email to Lisa regarding my K3 order has gone
completely unanswered. That's fine; I know they're busy. But I don't blame
the Internet, George Bush, or global warming for Elecraft's occassional
problems. Instead I'm able to believe they might have messed up, because
they're people. :-) 

Or it could be Hillary Clinton's fault. :-) Yeah, that's probably it.

Eric's recent post straightens out all the K3 questions. Your credit card
statement is your deposit receipt. You'll be contacted about a week ahead of
shipping to verify the details. You'll get a final invoice with your K3.
Pretty simple.

Craig
NZ0R
KX1 #1499
K1 #1966
K2/100 #4941

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[Elecraft] Test

2007-07-08 Thread Bob DeHaney
Testing tnx, Bob DJ0MBC/WU5T

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RE: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter

2007-07-08 Thread Craig Rairdin
I'm not sure how long the ladder line was, but I'd guess about 100'. The
antenna was about 40' on the ends and 45' in the center.
 
Craig
NZ0R
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 12:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter


In a message dated 7/8/07 9:28:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




130' dipole fed with 300-ohm ladder line
running to my KAT100 through a 4:1 balun 



How many feet of ladder line, and how high up was the dipole?

73 de Jim, N2EY


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Re: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of moneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Julian G4ILO

On 7/8/07, Bill Tippett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



G3UNA:
 >I got a personal message the same day.  No, not automated,
personal, referring to my order.

 Same here.  Then another email because the original
order form omitted the credit card expiration date.  Then
a few weeks later I saw my credit card charged.

 To quote one of G4AON's countrymen, "Methinks thou doth
protest too much."...and you might also want to make sure
your ISP or SPAM filter is not blocking elecraft.com.



This mailing list's spam filter has blocked 3 attempts by me to reply
to this thread. I think spam filters are more likely to be blame for
the lack of communication being complained of than any failings at
Elecraft.
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[Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of moneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Bill Tippett



G3UNA:
>I got a personal message the same day.  No, not automated,
personal, referring to my order.

Same here.  Then another email because the original
order form omitted the credit card expiration date.  Then
a few weeks later I saw my credit card charged.

To quote one of G4AON's countrymen, "Methinks thou doth
protest too much."...and you might also want to make sure
your ISP or SPAM filter is not blocking elecraft.com.

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] Additional Adapter Issues

2007-07-08 Thread Phil Kane
On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 09:47:12 -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:

>I don't have any recent Icom handhelds, but I suspect that they are
>now using SMA connectors, as are Yaesu and some other manufacturers.

  My ICOM hand-held transceiver uses BNC.

>I don't know of there are any SMA to PL-259 adapters, but
>putting that with some RG-8 coax on an SMA connection might
>introduce an unacceptable strain on the radio.  I would advise
>using a SMA to BNC adapter and a short cable with a BNC on one
>end and a PL-259 on the other.

  I would advise the inverse - a short adapter cable with a
  SMA/BNC male (whichever the radio needs) and a UHF female
  on the other end.

  From bitter experience, I would not put the "solid" adapter on
  the handheld radio itself, because of the strain on the radio's
  connector.

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   Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402



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Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter

2007-07-08 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 7/8/07 9:28:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> 130' dipole fed with 300-ohm ladder line
> running to my KAT100 through a 4:1 balun 

How many feet of ladder line, and how high up was the dipole?

73 de Jim, N2EY


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Re: [Elecraft] Additional Adapter Issues

2007-07-08 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Jul 8, 2007, at 6:47 AM, Patrick Lynch wrote:


I am looking for an adapter that would allow me connect my hand held
transceiver to a PL-259 connector.  What I am trying to do is hook  
my hand
held to an outside antenna.  I am currently in Iraq and sleep at  
night in
what is known as a "CHU" (Containerized Housing Unit) which is  
basically a
metal box that is covered in sandbags.  There are also what is  
known as
Hesco Barriers surrounding the immediate area to protect you from  
indirect
fire attack.  None of these structures make for good antenna  
reception.  I
would like to receive radio calls from my staff in case issues  
comer up at
night.  I hope to place a base station type antenna on the roof  
giving me

some line of sight to the HQ.  I am not sure all of the connectors on
commercial Icom handhelds are standard.  Anyone have any ideas?


I don't have any recent Icom handhelds, but I suspect that they are  
now using SMA connectors, as are Yaesu and some other manufacturers.   
I don't know of there are any SMA to PL-259 adapters, but putting  
that with some RG-8 coax on an SMA connection might introduce an  
unacceptable strain on the radio.  I would advise using a SMA to BNC  
adapter and a short cable with a BNC on one end and a PL-259 on the  
other.


73, Bob N7XY
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Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter

2007-07-08 Thread Bob Nielsen


On Jul 8, 2007, at 6:15 AM, Craig D. Smith wrote:

Another data point for you is the Pomona adapter.  I've always had  
very good
results with Pomona products - not cheap, but very high quality.   
The part
you are looking for is Mouser PN 565-1296.  Pricing is currently  
$13.43.  No

minimum order.



These have been around forever (>40 years anyway--I recall using them  
in the lab at work in the early 1960s). I bought one at Fry's  
Electronics a few years ago.


73, Bob N7XY

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Re: [Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?

2007-07-08 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft

Hi Dave,

All basic K3's include and ship with the 5ppm reference oscillator 
standard. We only include the 1 ppm oscillator if you ordered it as an 
option. (If you want to update your order just place an order on the web 
page and note that it is a change in the comments section. Please 
reference your original order number if possible. )


The order page note is saying that for those that ordered the TCXO3-1 
reference oscillator, if it has not arrived at Elecraft when we ship, we 
will ship their K3 with the 5 ppm part and then follow it up with the 
TCXO3-1 when it arrives. This is a plug in part, so anyone can install it.


Just before we ship your order, probably about a week prior, we will 
email you to confirm your options etc. Also, we send out an automatic 
order confirmation via email when you place your order on the web site. 
For the deposit your receipt is your credit card charge. The final 
receipt for the whole order ships with the order in the box to you.


Yes, we're very busy getting everything ready to build and ship K3's. 
The logistics of getting all of the parts, pc boards, sheet metal etc in 
on time is huge! But we are working overtime to get everyone's K3 out 
the door as fast as possible. One thing to remember - It will be 
impossible for us to ship all of the K3 orders for the first run in the 
first week of shipping. There were way too many ordered. (A nice problem 
to have..)  I know everyone expects their's to ship the first day, but 
we will be getting them out the door as fast as possible! :-) Please be 
patient.


Starting this next week I will be posting regular updates on our 
progress and updating our shipping information here and on the web page.


73, Eric   WA6HHQ
Elecraft
-
Dave G4AON wrote:
On the Shipping Status page it states "/At your option we will ship 
your K3 with the standard 5 PPM TCXO and then ship you the TCXO3-1 
when it is ready - no additional shipping charge". /Should I have been 
contacted to ask what my option will be? Also, is there a cut off date 
for ordering (and perhaps swapping) extra options, e.g. filters?


There seems to be a lack of information/instructions for those of us 
with K3s on order! I haven't received a receipt for the deposit 
either... But get receive an acknowledgement. I assume there will be 
an invoice for the final amount arriving soon...


73 Dave, G4AON/


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Re: [Elecraft] Appalachian Trail on 7-7-07

2007-07-08 Thread Ron Polityka

Hello,

My trek out onto the Appalachian Trail was a very good one on 7 July 2007. 
I packed up my car and started driving north  and missed my exit. Really did 
not feel like hiking to Round Head off of Rte 5011 or just taking a short 
hike to the pond on Rte 183. So I drove North pass Hamburg, PA and headed in 
the direction of Hawk Mountain. About a mile down the mountain driving 
towards Eckville, PA the Appalachian Trail crosses the road.


I arrived at the parking area around 09:15 AM or 13:15 UTC. I got my pack 
on and started hiking North on the AT towards clearing around 2 1/2 miles up 
the mountain. This is around 1 mile from Dan's Pulpit lookout. On my hike up 
the steep section of the trail I came across two thru hikers that started in 
GA. The to were from the Harrisburg, PA area, local PA boys. We talked for 
about 15 minutes and then we hiked together. Once at the top of the mountain 
they continued on North. It took me an hour to do the hike but 15 minutes 
was spent talking to the thru hikers, so overall it took me 45 minutes to 
hike up 2 1/2 miles of rocky trail.


I started to setup my station.

Station:Elecraft K1
   Black Widow Vertical
   Li-Poly battery
   Palm for logging with the PortaLog program

 Started out on 20 meters calling CQ at 10:30 AM or 14:30 UTC.

This is my log.

#1N4KZ20mKY
#2K1LNX/4  20mTN
#3KS4L20mAL
#4AB4VF 20mFL
#5K3PBY/4  20mFL
#6N4UN   20mAL

16:30 UTC

#7WA1CFX 40mMELobstercon
#8W3WH 40mPA
#9VE3MS40mOntario
#10   K1ESE40mMA
#11   WA8REI 40mMI

17:55 UTC

#12N9IV 30mIN

18:15 UTC

#13W7A  20mAZ

18:50 UTC

#14WA8REI40mMI

Called CQ for 20 minutes more with no response I packed up the station. My 
total is now 820 QSO's from the Appalachian Trail. I was on 15 m at 16:00 
UTC for 20 minutes of calling CQ. There were no replies. I did hear a 
station in SC talking to a station in IN on 15 meters, they were the only 
signals on the band.


While I was operation on 40 meters in the afternoon, there was a large 
crashing sound coming towards me. There were four deer that ran about 100 
feet behind me up over the top and down the other side. Needless to say that 
caught me by surprise. Then about 5 minutes later another 3 deer did the 
same thing but in front of me and they were about 50 feet away. All day I 
was watching a Hairy Woodpecker, a Pileated Woodpecker and a Blue Jay. All 
the bird were doing is going from tree to tree eating bugs. I was just 
hoping that they did not mistake my antenna as a tree, especially the 
woodpeckers.  :-)


The weather was a sunny 75'F with a cool breeze blowing. I was under trees 
so it made the day very enjoyable. During the day several people came hiking 
thru heading towards Dan's Pulpit lookout. One hiker stopped and talked to 
me for a few minutes. He just came up the steep trail and took a 5 minute 
break. He was section hiking and he started out on Rte 61 that morning and 
was heading towards Rte 309. 28 Mile hike, wow. He said that his wife will 
be there around 8 PM and he was averaging 2 1/2 to 3 miles an hour. He had a 
GPS unit on and I guess he was Speed Hiking.


Anyway it was another Great Day outdoors with the K1. Look for me at the 
end of July as Bumblebee #17 from the Appalachian Trail.


72 and Thanks,
Ron Polityka
WB3AAL
www.wb3aal.com
www.n3epa.org/

K1 - SN 01011
K2 - SN 01392


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RE: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of moneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Ed K1EP
I received a receipt too, dated April 30.  Not knowing your particular 
circumstances, as one possible explanation, I would suggest maybe the following 
scenario.  My receipt was sent as a PDF attachment to an email.  Perhaps your 
over zealous ISP filtered that mail out as possible spam and dropped it.  I 
would agree that you rightfully deserve a receipt, but maybe there is a little 
more to the story that isn't obvious.


At 7/8/2007 09:27 AM, Craig Rairdin wrote:
>I got a receipt. Maybe they lost your order. You should contact them
>directly.
>
>You're right that there's a loyalty among Elecraft customers here that
>sometimes defies logic. They completely screwed up my last order even after
>multiple emails and phone calls to get it right. It's fine now. They're not
>perfect, and I don't see the problem with allowing people to have that
>opinion. But they do a good job overall.
>
>Craig
>NZ0R
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Wright
>Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:22 AM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of
>moneyhere"
>
>
>Excuse me? You buy a product from a company, pay 50% up front to help the
>company out, and you get no acknowledgement from the company that a) your
>order has been received or b) a receipt for your advanced payment.  And you
>excuse this on account they are busy?
>
>I'm sorry, but I find that unacceptable.  American companies pride
>themselves on their great service - this isn't even common courtesy let
>alone good customer service.
>
>How long does it take to send a non-automated email?  Someone at Elecraft is
>keeping a track of all the orders (otherwise the'd have no idea of demand)
>and an email takes maybe 30 seconds extra per order. Even if they have
>10,000 orders (which I doubt very much), that is 83 hours of work, spread
>over the last 2 months equates to about a quarter of a person.  Of course,
>automate the process and you don't even need a quarter of a person.
>
>And of course, telling a customer that you have his order and his money
>saves you having to answer the phone when the same customer calls in to
>complain - except that doesn't take 30 seconds!
>
>Or is it that we Brits now have a better sense of what makes for good
>service than our American friends?
>
>Phil, G8JQH
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
>Sent: 08 July 2007 14:02
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: "We are not talking about a small amount of money here" (was
>[Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?)
>
>Dave and all,
>
>I can add emphasis to what Gary has said, and I experience it in only a 
>small way - responding to emails requesting status of kits I have here 
>for repair/upgrade/build etc., does take considerable time and energy - 
>multiply that by a very large factor (your guess for the number of K3 
>orders) and you have a lot of time just to respond to order 
>status/confirmation requests.
>
>While all of us who have ordered K3s have the same questions, I do not 
>have either written or email confirmation of my order.  I do know that 
>everyone at Elecraft is very busy communicating with the beta testers, 
>getting all the production stuff in order, along with their normal 
>activities, and they are putting in a lot of overtime hours to get it done.
>
>Have patience, try not to bother them any more than necessary, and in a 
>couple weeks the flood will be cleared and things will restore to 
>something more normal.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>Gary Hvizdak wrote:
>> Recently Dave (G4AON) wrote 
>> 
>> "... having paid a 50% deposit it wouldn't be expecting too much to have a
>> receipt for the payment, showing what is on order and the balance to be
>> paid.  We are not talking about a small amount of money here."
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Hi Dave,
>> 
>> Having produced some inexpensive accessories for the K2 that are
>easily
>> 10,000 times simpler than the K3, I might still be able to relate to what
>> Elecraft has been going through.  FYI, from before Ken (WB2ART) and I
>began
>> accepting payments for our original K2 Option Bypass Header kit in 2005,
>> until all orders were shipped, we spent more time replying to customer
>> emails than we did working to get our humble product out the door!

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Re: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount ofmoneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Ken Kopp

I received an e-mailed copy of my order as confirmation ...

Then another copy of my revision/addition to the initial one, 
along with a personal note from Lisa.  


FWIW, Lisa rates an "attagirl" and a raise.  No doubt -ALL-
the Elecraft folks deserve the same ... Lisa's just the most
"visible".

73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] Additional Adapter Issues

2007-07-08 Thread Patrick Lynch

I am looking for an adapter that would allow me connect my hand held
transceiver to a PL-259 connector.  What I am trying to do is hook my hand
held to an outside antenna.  I am currently in Iraq and sleep at night in
what is known as a "CHU" (Containerized Housing Unit) which is basically a
metal box that is covered in sandbags.  There are also what is known as
Hesco Barriers surrounding the immediate area to protect you from indirect
fire attack.  None of these structures make for good antenna reception.  I
would like to receive radio calls from my staff in case issues comer up at
night.  I hope to place a base station type antenna on the roof giving me
some line of sight to the HQ.  I am not sure all of the connectors on
commercial Icom handhelds are standard.  Anyone have any ideas?
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Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter

2007-07-08 Thread Art Burke
When I got my KX1, I thought those plugs were somewhat rare. I found them in 
several places on-line (don't remember exactly where at the moment cuz I 
sold my KX1 and the plugs) and also bought a couple at a decent-sized 
hamfest.


The plugs are *not* designed for twinlead - one is for the conductor, the 
other is for a counterpoise - this is stated in the manual.


Art - N4PJ

- Original Message - 
From: "John R. Lonigro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "johnny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter



Chris:
If I understand what you mean by "twin lug", Jameco has it 
(www.jameco.com, part number 99354) for a little more than $5.00 plus 
shipping.  This item has a BNC male on one end and twin banana 
jacks/binding posts on the other.


73's,
John AA0VE

Does anyone know a source where I can obtain one  of those BNC to twin 
lug
adapters for the KX1?  I am thinking of puuting up  a G5RV fed with 300 
ohm

ladder line.

Thanks and very 73/72!

Chris  NV9Z
Hagerstown IN
www.eciqrp.org


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RE: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of moneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread Craig Rairdin
I got a receipt. Maybe they lost your order. You should contact them
directly.

You're right that there's a loyalty among Elecraft customers here that
sometimes defies logic. They completely screwed up my last order even after
multiple emails and phone calls to get it right. It's fine now. They're not
perfect, and I don't see the problem with allowing people to have that
opinion. But they do a good job overall.

Craig
NZ0R

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Wright
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:22 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of
moneyhere"


Excuse me? You buy a product from a company, pay 50% up front to help the
company out, and you get no acknowledgement from the company that a) your
order has been received or b) a receipt for your advanced payment.  And you
excuse this on account they are busy?

I'm sorry, but I find that unacceptable.  American companies pride
themselves on their great service - this isn't even common courtesy let
alone good customer service.

How long does it take to send a non-automated email?  Someone at Elecraft is
keeping a track of all the orders (otherwise the'd have no idea of demand)
and an email takes maybe 30 seconds extra per order. Even if they have
10,000 orders (which I doubt very much), that is 83 hours of work, spread
over the last 2 months equates to about a quarter of a person.  Of course,
automate the process and you don't even need a quarter of a person.

And of course, telling a customer that you have his order and his money
saves you having to answer the phone when the same customer calls in to
complain - except that doesn't take 30 seconds!

Or is it that we Brits now have a better sense of what makes for good
service than our American friends?

Phil, G8JQH

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: 08 July 2007 14:02
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: "We are not talking about a small amount of money here" (was
[Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?)

Dave and all,

I can add emphasis to what Gary has said, and I experience it in only a 
small way - responding to emails requesting status of kits I have here 
for repair/upgrade/build etc., does take considerable time and energy - 
multiply that by a very large factor (your guess for the number of K3 
orders) and you have a lot of time just to respond to order 
status/confirmation requests.

While all of us who have ordered K3s have the same questions, I do not 
have either written or email confirmation of my order.  I do know that 
everyone at Elecraft is very busy communicating with the beta testers, 
getting all the production stuff in order, along with their normal 
activities, and they are putting in a lot of overtime hours to get it done.

Have patience, try not to bother them any more than necessary, and in a 
couple weeks the flood will be cleared and things will restore to 
something more normal.

73,
Don W3FPR

Gary Hvizdak wrote:
> Recently Dave (G4AON) wrote 
> 
> "... having paid a 50% deposit it wouldn't be expecting too much to have a
> receipt for the payment, showing what is on order and the balance to be
> paid.  We are not talking about a small amount of money here."
> 
> --
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Having produced some inexpensive accessories for the K2 that are
easily
> 10,000 times simpler than the K3, I might still be able to relate to what
> Elecraft has been going through.  FYI, from before Ken (WB2ART) and I
began
> accepting payments for our original K2 Option Bypass Header kit in 2005,
> until all orders were shipped, we spent more time replying to customer
> emails than we did working to get our humble product out the door!
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RE: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter

2007-07-08 Thread Craig Rairdin
For Field Day this year we had a 130' dipole fed with 300-ohm ladder line
running to my KAT100 through a 4:1 balun and it worked great on all bands.

We talked about feeding one side of the antenna to the K2 and attempting to
load it up on 160m but never got around to it. We would've needed some kind
of RF ground which we didn't have set up.

Craig
NZ0R

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:15 AM
To: Craig Rairdin
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter


Craig,

While you can feed ladder line directly to anything (including a KX1), 
the enclosure and whatever is connected to it can create unbalance on 
the ladder line.  The result is that the antenna tuning will change 
depending on how the KX1 couples to ground - the antenna will behave 
differently with the KX1 running on batteries compared to running from a 
power supply.

It is wise to use a 1:1 current balun to decouple the ladder line from 
those 'ground effects'.  Use a 4:1 current balun if it provides a better 
match to the antenna.  An Elecraft BL2 is ideal, it has a switch so you 
can change from 1:1 to 4:1 and use whichever matches better.

73,
Don W3FPR

Craig Rairdin wrote:
> Can you feed 300 ohm ladder line right into a KX1? Will it tune it? I
guess
> I should try it... I always add a balun.
> 
> Craig
> NZ0R
> KX1 #1499
> K1 #1966
> K2/100 #4941
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:06 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter
> 
> 
> Does anyone know a source where I can obtain one  of those BNC to twin lug

> adapters for the KX1?  I am thinking of puuting up  a G5RV fed with 300
ohm 
> ladder line.
> 
> Thanks and very 73/72!
> 
> Chris  NV9Z
> Hagerstown IN 
> www.eciqrp.org  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of moneyhere"

2007-07-08 Thread David Cutter
I got a personal message the same day.  No, not automated, personal, 
referring to my order.


David
G3UNA


- Original Message - 
From: "Phil Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 2:22 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of 
moneyhere"




Excuse me? You buy a product from a company, pay 50% up front to help the
company out, and you get no acknowledgement from the company that a) your
order has been received or b) a receipt for your advanced payment.  And 
you

excuse this on account they are busy?


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[Elecraft] RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of money here"

2007-07-08 Thread Phil Wright
Excuse me? You buy a product from a company, pay 50% up front to help the
company out, and you get no acknowledgement from the company that a) your
order has been received or b) a receipt for your advanced payment.  And you
excuse this on account they are busy?

I'm sorry, but I find that unacceptable.  American companies pride
themselves on their great service - this isn't even common courtesy let
alone good customer service.

How long does it take to send a non-automated email?  Someone at Elecraft is
keeping a track of all the orders (otherwise the'd have no idea of demand)
and an email takes maybe 30 seconds extra per order. Even if they have
10,000 orders (which I doubt very much), that is 83 hours of work, spread
over the last 2 months equates to about a quarter of a person.  Of course,
automate the process and you don't even need a quarter of a person.

And of course, telling a customer that you have his order and his money
saves you having to answer the phone when the same customer calls in to
complain - except that doesn't take 30 seconds!

Or is it that we Brits now have a better sense of what makes for good
service than our American friends?

Phil, G8JQH

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm
Sent: 08 July 2007 14:02
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: "We are not talking about a small amount of money here" (was
[Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?)

Dave and all,

I can add emphasis to what Gary has said, and I experience it in only a 
small way - responding to emails requesting status of kits I have here 
for repair/upgrade/build etc., does take considerable time and energy - 
multiply that by a very large factor (your guess for the number of K3 
orders) and you have a lot of time just to respond to order 
status/confirmation requests.

While all of us who have ordered K3s have the same questions, I do not 
have either written or email confirmation of my order.  I do know that 
everyone at Elecraft is very busy communicating with the beta testers, 
getting all the production stuff in order, along with their normal 
activities, and they are putting in a lot of overtime hours to get it done.

Have patience, try not to bother them any more than necessary, and in a 
couple weeks the flood will be cleared and things will restore to 
something more normal.

73,
Don W3FPR

Gary Hvizdak wrote:
> Recently Dave (G4AON) wrote 
> 
> "... having paid a 50% deposit it wouldn't be expecting too much to have a
> receipt for the payment, showing what is on order and the balance to be
> paid.  We are not talking about a small amount of money here."
> 
> --
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> Having produced some inexpensive accessories for the K2 that are
easily
> 10,000 times simpler than the K3, I might still be able to relate to what
> Elecraft has been going through.  FYI, from before Ken (WB2ART) and I
began
> accepting payments for our original K2 Option Bypass Header kit in 2005,
> until all orders were shipped, we spent more time replying to customer
> emails than we did working to get our humble product out the door!
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Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter

2007-07-08 Thread Don Wilhelm

Craig,

While you can feed ladder line directly to anything (including a KX1), 
the enclosure and whatever is connected to it can create unbalance on 
the ladder line.  The result is that the antenna tuning will change 
depending on how the KX1 couples to ground - the antenna will behave 
differently with the KX1 running on batteries compared to running from a 
power supply.


It is wise to use a 1:1 current balun to decouple the ladder line from 
those 'ground effects'.  Use a 4:1 current balun if it provides a better 
match to the antenna.  An Elecraft BL2 is ideal, it has a switch so you 
can change from 1:1 to 4:1 and use whichever matches better.


73,
Don W3FPR

Craig Rairdin wrote:

Can you feed 300 ohm ladder line right into a KX1? Will it tune it? I guess
I should try it... I always add a balun.

Craig
NZ0R
KX1 #1499
K1 #1966
K2/100 #4941

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:06 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter


Does anyone know a source where I can obtain one  of those BNC to twin lug 
adapters for the KX1?  I am thinking of puuting up  a G5RV fed with 300 ohm 
ladder line.


Thanks and very 73/72!

Chris  NV9Z
Hagerstown IN 
www.eciqrp.org  





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RE: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter

2007-07-08 Thread Craig D. Smith
Another data point for you is the Pomona adapter.  I've always had very good
results with Pomona products - not cheap, but very high quality.  The part
you are looking for is Mouser PN 565-1296.  Pricing is currently $13.43.  No
minimum order.

73
 ... Craig   AC0DS




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA100 build time?

2007-07-08 Thread Don Wilhelm

Steve,

Depending on your skill and experience level, the time to build a KPA100 
will vary between 10 and 20 hours.


There are not nearly as many parts as the K2, but there are more 
mechanical assembly steps than for the K2.  Winding the toroids is more 
difficult because of the larger gauge wire used in the LPF inductors.


73,
Don W3FPR

Steve Kallal wrote:

What is the typical build time of the KPA100 option?

73,

Steve N6VL

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[Elecraft] Test

2007-07-08 Thread Michael B

Test

--
W2CVZ,
Michael
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Re: "We are not talking about a small amount of money here" (was [Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?)

2007-07-08 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dave and all,

I can add emphasis to what Gary has said, and I experience it in only a 
small way - responding to emails requesting status of kits I have here 
for repair/upgrade/build etc., does take considerable time and energy - 
multiply that by a very large factor (your guess for the number of K3 
orders) and you have a lot of time just to respond to order 
status/confirmation requests.


While all of us who have ordered K3s have the same questions, I do not 
have either written or email confirmation of my order.  I do know that 
everyone at Elecraft is very busy communicating with the beta testers, 
getting all the production stuff in order, along with their normal 
activities, and they are putting in a lot of overtime hours to get it done.


Have patience, try not to bother them any more than necessary, and in a 
couple weeks the flood will be cleared and things will restore to 
something more normal.


73,
Don W3FPR

Gary Hvizdak wrote:
Recently Dave (G4AON) wrote 


"... having paid a 50% deposit it wouldn't be expecting too much to have a
receipt for the payment, showing what is on order and the balance to be
paid.  We are not talking about a small amount of money here."

--

Hi Dave,

Having produced some inexpensive accessories for the K2 that are easily
10,000 times simpler than the K3, I might still be able to relate to what
Elecraft has been going through.  FYI, from before Ken (WB2ART) and I began
accepting payments for our original K2 Option Bypass Header kit in 2005,
until all orders were shipped, we spent more time replying to customer
emails than we did working to get our humble product out the door!

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RE: [Elecraft] Hate the word HAM

2007-07-08 Thread Dan Barker
I don't remember the format of the written, but MC doesn't sound wrong. I
know the code test was fill-in-the-blank, which I found quite odd. I do
remember one question, tho.

His occupation was _.

My copy had ??mber?.

I was torn between plumber and lumber salesman. Occam saved the day!

Dan / WG4S  (ca. 1981 or 2) / K2 #2456


The reference in the original post may be to the fact that for several years
after the FCC dropped the "one minute perfect copy out of five minutes sent"
standard, they used multiple choice exams for the *Morse* test after the
sending was over.  That didn't last long.


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Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter

2007-07-08 Thread Sam Morgan
Does anyone know a source where I can obtain one  of those BNC to 
twin lug
adapters for the KX1?  I am thinking of puuting up  a G5RV fed with 
300 ohm ladder line.



when I faced this problem I threw a few more dollars at it and got this kit
5 Piece BNC / Dual Banana Adapter Kit
http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=5552

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KA5OAI
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Re: [Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?

2007-07-08 Thread Ken K3IU

Quoting from a recent email from Lisa ([EMAIL PROTECTED])...

"Prior to shipment, we will email you a copy of the invoice for 
confirmation to make sure we have everything correct."


73,
Ken K3IU
~~
Dave G4AON wrote:
On the Shipping Status page it states "/At your option we will ship 
your K3 with the standard 5 PPM TCXO and then ship you the TCXO3-1 
when it is ready - no additional shipping charge". /Should I have been 
contacted to ask what my option will be? Also, is there a cut off date 
for ordering (and perhaps swapping) extra options, e.g. filters?


There seems to be a lack of information/instructions for those of us 
with K3s on order! I haven't received a receipt for the deposit 
either... But get receive an acknowledgement. I assume there will be 
an invoice for the final amount arriving soon...


73 Dave, G4AON/


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Re: [Elecraft] A Little More Nostalgia

2007-07-08 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 7/8/07 1:13:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


> on it as a
> receiver it says 1 MO low loss, Ant. 4-wire fan. 
> Under Transmitter there's a place for watts and Volts
> on Plate.  Note on the bottom reads "Always Glad to
> QSR No Messages Die Hr., We Always QSL, Do U?

The scary part about reading this is that I know exactly what all the jargon 
means.

73 de Jim, N2EY


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[Elecraft] OT: CQ FT243 crystals

2007-07-08 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL

Dear Elecrafters:

As we all marvel at what Elecraft can do in a tiny box, some of us are
also stuck in the past.

My first "commercial" radio was a Heathkit DX20.  After I upgraded
around Dec 1966, I sold it in early 1967 so I could buy a radio with
SSB.

About 15 years ago, I ran across a DX at a local hamfest and bought
it.  Since then, I've been collecting (slowly) FT243 crystals, as I
find them available locally.  It's time to expand my search.

Do you have any FT243 (sometimes labeled as Z2) crystals collecting
dust that you'd like to offer up for my collection?

My mailing address is current at all URL lookups.

Here is what I have so far:

3513?   ?
3525Bliley Electric Co  Erie, PA
3525PR (Peterson Radio Co)  Council Bluffs, IA
3542PR (Peterson Radio Co)  Council Bluffs, IA
3553Stand. Piezo?
3590Bliley Electric Co  Erie, PA
3593.5  Bliley Electric Co  Erie, PA
3600"Navy Type"   ?
3647Texas Crystals  Ft. Myers, FL
3679PR (Peterson Radio Co)  Council Bluffs, IA
3715Bliley Electric Co  Erie, PA
3720Bliley Electric Co  Erie, PA
3725Texas Crystals  Fort Worth, TX
3733PR (Peterson Radio Co)  Council Bluffs, IA
3737CW Manufacturing?
3740Crystek Ft. Myers, FL
3794PR (Peterson Radio Co)  Council Bluffs, IA
3861.1  Scientific Radio Prod   ?
3940West Line Elec Co   Los Angeles, CA
7001PR (Peterson Radio Co)  Council Bluffs, IA
7055PR (Peterson Radio Co)  Council Bluffs, IA
7065Crystek Ft. Myers, FL
7073.33 Monitor Co  Pasedena, CA
7083Master Crystal Labs Los Angeles, CA
7085Crystek Ft. Myers, FL
7093Texas Crystals  Ft. Myers, FL
7095Texas Crystals  Ft. Myers, FL
7110Jan Ft. Myers, FL
7120Jan Ft. Myers, FL
7123Bliley Electric Co  Erie, PA
7130Jan Ft. Myers, FL
7131Texas Crystals  Los Angeles, CA
7153DX XtalsChicago
7167Texas Crystals  Ft. Myers, FL
7188PR (Peterson Radio Co)  Council Bluffs, IA
7190Crystek Ft. Myers, FL
7225Hudley Crystal Co   KC, MO
7236PR (Peterson Radio Co)  Council Bluffs, IA
7250Stand. Piezo?
7250?   ?
7253DX XtalsChicago
7283Premier Crystal LabsNY, NY
7300Goodall Electric Mfg Co ?
7720Radco CBYN  KC, MO  (don't ask, I don't know)
?   RCA ?
Unkwn   RCA ?
Unkwn   August E. MillerN.Bergen, NJ
Unkwn   RCA ?

I also have three identical crystals in FT243 format that read:
Channel 16, 21.6 MC on the top of a "large" housing (compared to the
novice xtals).
On the side = CR - 3/UCBVZ
Each has a round, red Jan sticker on the opposite side.  If I tap the
housing, I can feel something inside vibrating (but I can't feel
21.3MC...).
Any ideas?

Thanks!
de Doug KR2Q
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Re: [Elecraft] BNC To Twin Lug Adapter

2007-07-08 Thread John R. Lonigro

Chris:
If I understand what you mean by "twin lug", Jameco has it 
(www.jameco.com, part number 99354) for a little more than $5.00 plus 
shipping.  This item has a BNC male on one end and twin banana 
jacks/binding posts on the other.


73's,
John AA0VE

Does anyone know a source where I can obtain one  of those BNC to 
twin lug
adapters for the KX1?  I am thinking of puuting up  a G5RV fed with 
300 ohm

ladder line.

Thanks and very 73/72!

Chris  NV9Z
Hagerstown IN
www.eciqrp.org


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RE: "We are not talking about a small amount of money here" (was [Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?)

2007-07-08 Thread Gary Hvizdak
Recently Dave (G4AON) wrote 

"... having paid a 50% deposit it wouldn't be expecting too much to have a
receipt for the payment, showing what is on order and the balance to be
paid.  We are not talking about a small amount of money here."

--

Hi Dave,

Having produced some inexpensive accessories for the K2 that are easily
10,000 times simpler than the K3, I might still be able to relate to what
Elecraft has been going through.  FYI, from before Ken (WB2ART) and I began
accepting payments for our original K2 Option Bypass Header kit in 2005,
until all orders were shipped, we spent more time replying to customer
emails than we did working to get our humble product out the door!

If yours was the only K3 order, then it would be easy for Elecraft to
keep you better informed.  However, were Elecraft to try to provide their
hundreds (or is it thousands?) of K3 customers with current order status,
and then handle each order a second time just prior to shipping, then
everyone's K3 might well be delayed by a month or two.  Either that, or
Elecraft might need to raise their (very reasonable) prices in order to
double their staffing.

I'm certain that Elecraft will provide you with the invoice you require
as your K3's ship date nears.  I'm even more certain that you will be
delighted with your K3 when it arrives.  By being patient you are helping
Elecraft (more than you know) to get you your K3 as quickly as possible.

73,
Gary  KI4GGX

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[Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?

2007-07-08 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
They said they would contact everyone before shipment.
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Ok, so what's the speed of Dark?


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[Elecraft] First QRV with the production run

2007-07-08 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
It's just occurred to me that anyone you bought an assembled K3 will
probably be QRV before those of us who have to assemble it.
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Re: [Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?

2007-07-08 Thread Julian G4ILO

On 7/8/07, Dave G4AON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I'm not suggesting we shouldn't be patient, but having paid a 50%
deposit it wouldn't be expecting too much to have a receipt for the
payment, showing what is on order and the balance to be paid. We are not
talking about a small amount of money here.


I received an order confirmation after placing the order. My credit
card was debited with the deposit a couple of weeks later, which I was
able to check on-line. Given the number of orders they have received,
and the fact that they probably don't have enough staff to deal
quickly with what is a one-off deluge of orders, I really don't expect
them to spend even more time printing and posting a receipt for the
deposit. My credit card statement is all the proof I need. I would
rather they spent their time getting the K3s ready to ship.
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[Elecraft] Morse Test

2007-07-08 Thread Michael Marlow
All of 18 years I arrived at the local Post Ofice for my 12wpm test, was 
ushered into a dusty room where an elderly gentleman with a newspaper under his 
arm greeted me with the words - We have a problem.  The problem was they could 
not find a morse key!

If I recall correctly one had to use whatever key was provided. However a 
bicycle ride home to collect my practise key and buzzer proved acceptable and 
about an hour later the budding G3IAF departed happily clutching a pass slip.
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Re: [Elecraft] CW speed clabration - official test word for CW speed calibration

2007-07-08 Thread Dave G4AON

Scott N5SM wrote

"When I set the CW speed on mine on 20 wpm it actually sends about 25 to 27 
wpm."


I'm a bit late answering this one. My K2 is spot on, set to 20 WPM, it is 
exactly 20 WPM based on the standard Morse test word of PARIS.

73 Dave, G4AON

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Re: [Elecraft] Cut off date for K3 options?

2007-07-08 Thread Dave G4AON

David G4DMP wrote

"The easiest way to check that your order has been accepted is to look 
at your credit card statement. Having said that, it took a 2-3 weeks 
after placing my order for my card to be charged. I guess we should all 
just be patient so as not to slow the process down."


I'm not suggesting we shouldn't be patient, but having paid a 50% 
deposit it wouldn't be expecting too much to have a receipt for the 
payment, showing what is on order and the balance to be paid. We are not 
talking about a small amount of money here.


73 Dave
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