Re: [Elecraft] Lousy Tx audio reports using K2
Eddy Avila wrote: Specifically, I get reports I don't have enough highs in my tx audio. I use the Spectrograph program to align filters per KSB2 Unless your voice is particularly bassy there are a couple of things you can do to try and improve things. First things first though. How does the K2 sound to you on receive? Do you feel there is a lack of high end audio when using the widest audio filter setting? If the audio sounds ok to you, it might not be a problem with your radio. One of the simplest things you could try (if you feel it is your radio) is to adjust the audio filters. Alter the settings to move the upper end of the trace shown in Spectograph towards the higher frequencies. A previous message on this list mentioned that "if you key the transmitter in CAL FIL mode, at least for an SSB FL1 filter, the signal is looped back to the receive side, through the filter". That could allow you a way to adjust the filter settings while listening to your own voice to see for yourself if it sounds bassy. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |"What are we going to do today, Borg?" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 |"Same thing we always do, Pinkutus: | Try to assimilate the world!" #include | -Pinkutus & the Borg ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT - K2 Keyer problems
Recently I had my K2 (#2511) upgraded with the A to B mod kits. I have had some odd experiences with it since then. When I get up each morning I need to stoke the fire to warm the house up. Sometimes the morning temperature is in the high 40s (F). Normally it is in the low 50s range. Not long after breakfast, both mine and Sam's, I am on the air working into Oklahoma. The shack temperature today was 55 when I started. My keyer was set at 23 wpm but the speed kept jumping all over the place. The display would show the new speed but only after I had flubbed a few characters due to the speed change. It would drop to 19 or jump to 28 wpm randomly. By the end of the contact (60 minutes) the shack temperature had risen to 58 and the variations had lessened somewhat but they were still occurring. Do you, or anyone else, know what may cause these random speed variations? Is it the new firmware, the temperature, or some random thing? 2.04P 1.09 is the reading at start up to give you some idea of the firmware version. Before the upgrade it would jump very rarely. Now it jumps more often. However, due to the change in seasons the rig is going through larger temperature cycles than it had been. I am nowhere near the wood stove so it does get pretty chilly back here. Once I take down my Christmas tree I'll move back up into the front room but for now I need some way to limit the speed cycling. Should I turn the rig on an hour before I get on the air to help it stabilize? Cover it with a tea cozy? Put a space heater under it? Take down the tree and move near the wood stove? Or could it be something which changed with the upgrade? Any advice would be kindly appreciated, Kevin. KD5ONS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?
David, Not to worry...I am sure someone will develop a mod to change the BL2 to a BL3. 73, Henry - K4TMC -Original Message- From: David Ferrington, M0XDF <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: wayne burdick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Elecraft Reflector Sent: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 3:21 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control? I just bought a BL2 with my K3 - why wasn't there a BL3 then! HiHi I'd be interested, especially if the KAT3 worked the relay when tuning too On 20/12/07 20:00, "wayne burdick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent You've also given me an idea for a "BL3": Same as the BL2 but with a relay rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1. We could then use one of the K3's spare output lines (say DIGOUT1) to switch the relay under firmware control, per-band. There would be one wire running from the AUX I/O connector to the BL3, and you'd need to power the relay from the K3's switched 12 VDC accessory output. If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at it. I have the same problem myself, so I already want two :) -- DonŒt complain. Nobody will understand. Or care. And certainly donŒt try to fix the situation yourself. ItŒs dangerous. Leave it to a highly untrained, unqualified, expendable professional. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Utility for OS X - Need Beta Testers!
I need a few Mac savvy K3 owners to help me do the final testing of the K3 Utility for OS X. Preferably K3 owners that know their way around OS X and are willing to do some thorough testing of the K3 Utility (and have a working USB to Serial adaptor :).. Email me off list if you're interested. Thanks! David, W4SMT ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?
On Thu, 20 Dec 2007, wayne burdick wrote: You've also given me an idea for a "BL3": Same as the BL2 but with a relay rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1. And for those that bought the BL2...a handy-dandy retrofit kit. If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at it. I have the same problem myself, so I already want two :) Knowing that I never have the right stuff, I know as soon as you make it available, I will find out that I've needed it all along. Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?
It could be that the relay could be switched by sending DC voltage up the coax, particularly if the balun is a good distance from the radio - much like turning on a pre-amp on the mast. 73, Jamie WB4YDL wayne burdick wrote: Leigh wrote: This is great! I had been meaning to ask because I have use a switchable BL2 ony my big loop and had no way of knowing what the KAT3 was doing in the 1:1 and 4:1 positions, other than how long it took to find a match. This is certainly one excellent use of the KAT3's LCSET mode, Leigh. You've also given me an idea for a "BL3": Same as the BL2 but with a relay rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1. We could then use one of the K3's spare output lines (say DIGOUT1) to switch the relay under firmware control, per-band. There would be one wire running from the AUX I/O connector to the BL3, and you'd need to power the relay from the K3's switched 12 VDC accessory output. If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at it. I have the same problem myself, so I already want two :) 73, Wayne N6KR On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:55 am, wayne burdick wrote: If you're ever curious about the actual L and C values used in the matching network, you can check them using a special setting of the KAT3 menu entry (in the CONFIG menu). Just set KAT3 to LCSET, then exit the menu. Next, tap "ATU TUNE". This will display the present L and C values. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K3 #129 arrival
A factory assembled K3/100 with ATU arrived here in New Hampshire after a 3 day trip from W6 land. Don't necessarily expect to see a white box..at least initially. Mine was carefully double boxed, thank you!! My initial order was placed on April 30th with Lisa for a "kit" version. However, after reading the on-line manual and its constant reference to ESD I thought it would be in my best interest to let Elecraft assemble the unit. This change of heart placed me near the bottom of the first production run. Lots to decipher now. 73 Brad W1XV K2 #4996 K3 #129 Ten Tec Argonaut 515 #245 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 balun switching would also work with a KRC2, other rigs
I just wanted to point out that the future "BL3" (a BL2 with a 1:1/4:1 control relay instead of a switch) could also be controlled by our KRC2 band decoder. That means you could use it with any rig, not just a K3. The KRC2 works with most analog and digital band-control outputs from transceivers. (You can see a KRC2 at: http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_products_page.htm). The KRC2 has 3 accessory outputs that can be configured using a PC software application. So, for example, you could route the KRC2's ACC3 output to the BL3's relay control line, and select 1:1 or 4:1 mode on a per-band basis. The K3 already sends band information to the KRC2 on band changes, so you wouldn't have to change or set up anything at the K3. Just determine experimentally which Z setting at the balun is needed on each band. We've already got the BL3 designed :) 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Lousy TX audio reports with K2
Getting lousy SSB tx audio reports on K2, SN 3345. I did the Elecraft-approved 2.6khz bandwith and using the Heil MH2 mic. Specifically, I get reports I don't have enough highs in my tx audio. I use the Spectrograph program to align filters per KSB2 On K2 receive, the audio is outstandingas good as my ICOM 746pro. Any help will be greatly appreciated!! 73 /ed -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Lousy-TX-audio-reports-with-K2-tp14442553p14442553.html Sent from the K2 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Lousy Tx audio reports using K2
Happy Holidays All, Getting lousy SSB tx audio reports on K2, SN 3345. I did the Elecraft-approved 2.6khz bandwith and using the Heil MH2 mic. Specifically, I get reports I don't have enough highs in my tx audio. I use the Spectrograph program to align filters per KSB2 On K2 receive, the audio is outstandingas good as my ICOM 746pro. Any help will be greatly appreciated!! Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?
I just bought a BL2 with my K3 - why wasn't there a BL3 then! HiHi I'd be interested, especially if the KAT3 worked the relay when tuning too On 20/12/07 20:00, "wayne burdick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent > You've also given me an idea for a "BL3": Same as the BL2 but with a > relay rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1. We could then use > one of the K3's spare output lines (say DIGOUT1) to switch the relay > under firmware control, per-band. There would be one wire running from > the AUX I/O connector to the BL3, and you'd need to power the relay > from the K3's switched 12 VDC accessory output. > > If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at > it. I have the same problem myself, so I already want two :) -- Dont complain. Nobody will understand. Or care. And certainly dont try to fix the situation yourself. Its dangerous. Leave it to a highly untrained, unqualified, expendable professional. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked! [END of THREAD]
Guys - Seriously, let's end this thread for now. 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft List Moderator ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Automatic 1:1/4:1 Balun switching under K3 control?
Leigh wrote: This is great! I had been meaning to ask because I have use a switchable BL2 ony my big loop and had no way of knowing what the KAT3 was doing in the 1:1 and 4:1 positions, other than how long it took to find a match. This is certainly one excellent use of the KAT3's LCSET mode, Leigh. You've also given me an idea for a "BL3": Same as the BL2 but with a relay rather than a switch for selecting 1:1 vs. 4:1. We could then use one of the K3's spare output lines (say DIGOUT1) to switch the relay under firmware control, per-band. There would be one wire running from the AUX I/O connector to the BL3, and you'd need to power the relay from the K3's switched 12 VDC accessory output. If this is of interest, I'll ask the BL2's designer to take a look at it. I have the same problem myself, so I already want two :) 73, Wayne N6KR On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:55 am, wayne burdick wrote: If you're ever curious about the actual L and C values used in the matching network, you can check them using a special setting of the KAT3 menu entry (in the CONFIG menu). Just set KAT3 to LCSET, then exit the menu. Next, tap "ATU TUNE". This will display the present L and C values. --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Ordered
Order a K3 today (12/20/07). Now for the long wait. Philip ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 operating tip: Viewing and manually adjusting ATU L-C settings
Most of the time you'll let the KAT3 automatic antenna tuner do its thing and ignore it. It has a wide matching range and saves L-C information per-band and per-antenna, so you'll rarely need to re-tune. (We do plan to add multiple stored segments per band, too.) If you're ever curious about the actual L and C values used in the matching network, you can check them using a special setting of the KAT3 menu entry (in the CONFIG menu). Just set KAT3 to LCSET, then exit the menu. Next, tap "ATU TUNE". This will display the present L and C values. For example, I just matched my K3 on a random wire antenna on 40 meters, went into LCSET mode, and saw this when I tapped ATU TUNE: CA 0.08 nF L 0.25 uH The "CA" means that the capacitance ended up on the antenna side of the L-network. The other possibility is "CT", or capacitance on the transmitter side. The capacitance is shown in nF (nanofarads) so it can fit into three digits on the VFO A display even when the value is over 999 pF. The value shown, 0.08 nF, could also be expressed as 80 pF. Now, suppose you'd like to see what the effect of changing the L and C values would be on the match. (Or you're troubleshooting the KAT3.) You can simply rotate VFO A to change the C value, and rotate VFO B to change the L value. Tapping "ANT" alternates between "CA" and "Ct". Having made a change, tap ATU TUNE again to exit the L-C display. Then hold TUNE to go into transmit mode and see the new SWR value. Manual view/change of LC settings is certainly fun and educational. But it could also be used to give me (your overworked firmware guy) feedback about a difficult matching situation. I'm always open to fine-tuning the KAT3's algorithm. So if you discover -- using LCSET -- that you're able to do better than the KAT3 in auto-tune mode, just let me know. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
Fred (FL) wrote: Simple - it is illegal. You cannot use a HF ham rig to work in the marine bands, to work in the CB bands. Is this spelled out in the rules or is this from an interpretation of the rules? AFAIK, the issue with ham transmitters and CB radio is one of maximum output power. The solution seems a simple one. Allow transmit on the CB/marine band but, while tuned to those frequencies, the power output would be restricted to no more than the maximum allowed for that band. There could even be a menu entry that would completely disable Tx on the CB/marine band for those people worried about accidentally transmitting on the band. As long as you had the proper authorization (ie. needed licence) for the band, you would be good to go and would be operating within the legal limits for the band. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |"What are we going to do today, Borg?" Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 |"Same thing we always do, Pinkutus: | Try to assimilate the world!" #include | -Pinkutus & the Borg ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3's Transmit Inihibit function (TX INH)
Just another example of Elecraft responding to a logical request. Great work, Wayne. Thanks and 73 Bob N6WG - Original Message - From: "wayne burdick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Elecraft Reflector" Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3's Transmit Inihibit function (TX INH) > Hi all, > > I've just added the TX INH function and its associated menu entry to > the K3. Just in case you have no clue what this is: it provides a way > for an external station controller to determine which of two or more > transceivers can have access to resources such as an amplifier. It's > typically used in multi-op contest situations. > > By popular demand, the TX inhibit level can be *either* active-low or > active-high. Thus the TX INH menu entry has three settings: > > OFF (no TX inhibit) > LO=INH (a logic 0 inhibits transmit) > HI=INH (a logic 1, 5 V, inhibits transmit) > > I'm testing this feature right now, and it should be in the next > production firmware release. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > --- > > http://www.elecraft.com > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Elecraft CB band TX?
Aww, come on guys. All of you, especially here in the "Colonies" should know by now that Ham radio manufacturers in this day and age make provision for modifications to be made for transmitting outside the amateur bands. And you should also know that when a rig is opened up in this way all frequencies are enabled between 1.8 -30 Mhz. Shees, even this old Episcopal priest knows that. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Why are UK addresses blocked by the maininlg list?
AD6XY - Mike wrote: > > The following message to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was > undeliverable. > The reason for the problem: > 5.1.0 - Unknown address error 554-'Service unavailable; Client host > [212.50.160.54] blocked using uk.countries.nerd.dk; Your IP is in uk, > rejected based on geographical location' > You should be posting to elecraft@mailman.qth.net for emails to the list, not [EMAIL PROTECTED] 73 Dave G3YMC -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Why-are-UK-addresses-blocked-by-the-maininlg-list--tp14441411p14441802.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3's Transmit Inihibit function (TX INH)
Hi all, I've just added the TX INH function and its associated menu entry to the K3. Just in case you have no clue what this is: it provides a way for an external station controller to determine which of two or more transceivers can have access to resources such as an amplifier. It's typically used in multi-op contest situations. By popular demand, the TX inhibit level can be *either* active-low or active-high. Thus the TX INH menu entry has three settings: OFF (no TX inhibit) LO=INH (a logic 0 inhibits transmit) HI=INH (a logic 1, 5 V, inhibits transmit) I'm testing this feature right now, and it should be in the next production firmware release. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
SV: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
Craig VK3HE wrote; >> Whats also concerning is that this decision has been made only from the perspective >> of US laws not even taking into consideration the international market. US hams seems to have an interesting relationship with CB, dating back to the time when FCC took the 27MHz band out of the 10 meters ham band to create CB. Often when I read posts by US ham ops about CB I sense a lot of controversy. In Europe the attitude among the ham community and authorities to CB is more relaxed. As a matter of fact, SM authorities have taken away the license obligation recently and re-introduced AM and SSB modes in an effort to stimulate the usage of the band. In my opinion it is really simple, if the radio has the capability and the user is allowed ownership why should the manufacturer restrict the capability? It doesn't make sense! In the free world, it is the user's responsibility to comply with his or hers license. Just my 2 (euro) cents, Merry Xmas! 73 de Björn /SM0MDG ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 en route
K3-100 #178 (ordered May 2nd) departed Aptos yesterday en route to Virginia; UPS anticipates a 12/28 arrival...not quite in time for Christmas but it will make for a Happy New Year! Best Holiday wishes to all of you! 73, "H" Cary, K4TM Lynchburg, VA K2-100 #5266 "I love my K2!" K3-100 #178 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
Guys - Let's end this thread. It is one of those that will repeat forever ;-) The K3 was primarily designed for ham band coverage with a wider general coverage receive. Its not guaranteed to TX at full power everywhere outside the ham bands when so enabled, though it should cover most MARS frequencies. We haven't even tested it for the 27 MHz CB range and don't have time to at the moment. Its full specs are only guaranteed inside the amateur radio bands. If there is a specific country where use of the rig in the CB bands is legal, we'll certainly take a look at enabling it for that country. Feel free to email us directly on this, but let's let the discussion cool on the reflector for now. :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ _..._ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ssb reception
Tom It sounds to me as if all of the ssb filter settings are wrong. I would check them against the suggested values in the manual. 73 Stephen G4SJP >> >> I am trying to receive on an early K2, and it has been several years since >> I >> have used one. For some reason, I can only copy ssb when c mode is >> displayed?? When displayed U and L are fairly quite and signals other than >> code are unintelligible. Could this be a set up issue, or something >> really >> stupid on my part??? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, >> Tom >> >> > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ssb reception
Tom, Have the SSB filters been set up properly - it sounds like they have not. Is the KSB2 option installed? If, so, SSB FL1 must be set to OP1, 2, 3, 4 or 5. If you are not familiar with the K2 filter alignment procedures, there is information on the Elecraft website for how to use Spectrogram to assist with that task. There is also information about setting the filters on my website http://w3fpr.qrpradio.com in part 3 of the article on K2 Dial Calibration. 73, Don W3FPR tpotts wrote: I am trying to receive on an early K2, and it has been several years since I have used one. For some reason, I can only copy ssb when c mode is displayed?? When displayed U and L are fairly quite and signals other than code are unintelligible. Could this be a set up issue, or something really stupid on my part??? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
Simple - it is illegal. You cannot use a HF ham rig to work in the marine bands, to work in the CB bands. Perhaps the FCC isn't watching all the time, but they can be directed to do so. It would be just illegal, for anyone to try to use a K3 or any FCC certified amateur HF rig to attempt to transmit in these frequency regions. That is sort of Amateur Radio 101. Fred FL Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] ssb reception
If you have DSP enabled for SSB, you might turn it off. DSP can often make your radio dead as a doornail. de Joe, aa4nn I am trying to receive on an early K2, and it has been several years since I have used one. For some reason, I can only copy ssb when c mode is displayed?? When displayed U and L are fairly quite and signals other than code are unintelligible. Could this be a set up issue, or something really stupid on my part??? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] ssb reception
I am trying to receive on an early K2, and it has been several years since I have used one. For some reason, I can only copy ssb when c mode is displayed?? When displayed U and L are fairly quite and signals other than code are unintelligible. Could this be a set up issue, or something really stupid on my part??? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tom -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/ssb-reception-tp14411725p14411725.html Sent from the K2 mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Getting the K3 type approved (like the K2) for Thailand
Hi all, I saw the post re HS land and figured I would add my 2 cents. I plan to retire there within next year or two. I keep informed through RAST which is the Thai equiv of ARRL. I hope the K3 becomes type accepted there as has the K2 already. But mention was made of setting up the K3 for use there. An official government document (37 pages long) was issued 11 October 2007. Several important changes have occurred re HF operation. Previously only had 10, 15, 20, and 40 M bands with 160 and 80 being allowed only at certain times or occasions. Now 80 and 160 are permanently allowed and the WARC bands of 12, 17, and 30 are also allowed. Thailand continues to have a code requirement for Intermediate license of 8 wpm. I figured I would pass this along in case Rich, HS0ZGZ had not thought to notify you. 73, Sarah W0HXO Chris Wagner-8 wrote: > > Hi Folks, > There are others way up front in the queue: I planned to be the one to > open the door for future K3 buyers, but some OM will be there first. > The K2 is on the list of approved transceivers, So let's get the K3 on > that list asap, too! > By mistake, I deleted the list with the post from a HS0 op about this > about 2 months ago. So let's hope we hear who is gonna be the first K3 > user in Thailand! Hopefully, Rich Hs0zgz can speed up the import of > his K3 by the time he wants to bring it over. ** to be honest, I hate > the idea of handing the K3 over and have it "tested" for weeks. Nice > job: playing with radios and getting paid for it; the K3 will > mysteriously take a lot longer... :P > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Getting-the-K3-type-approved-%28like-the-K2%29-for-Thailand-tp14431691p14439034.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Test 1
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RE: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
Richard Kent wrote: > > > > Maybe there was another > answer all along we did not know it. Maybe the popularity of the CB band > has > dwindled to the point that it is not the hot spot we remember. > or maybe the FCC will give us back the 11 meter band that used to be a Ham band! yeahright ! Merry Christmas -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/CB-band-TX-I%27m-shocked%21-tp14429494p14438448.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: general coverage TX
On Thursday 20 December 2007 01:15:21 Shaun Oliver wrote: > I quite agree. even the vaunted yaesu ft817 with a few jumper > modifications can be made for general coverage tx. The FT817 in general coverage TX with a variable attenuator is a useful bench signal generator - just as my IC-735 was with diodes 33 and 34 on the main board snipped. Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 accessories construction order
"I have been reading some of the construction comments of the existing K3 owners and note that they have had to disassemble previously constructed pieces to install items to the base radio, e.g. the KPA100 assembly. " Hi Forrest, I built my K3 109 with revision C of the construction manual and can't recall any time where I had to disassemble the 100 W PA. I think the most recent manual was revised as much as possible to avoid that kind of problem. It is necessary for you to follow the manual EXACTLY and take precautions where the manual tells you to. If you come to a section that seems confusing at first, re-read it until it doesn't. The manual is well written and when followed should produce a K3 that will work with the first flick of the on/off switch. Everything is supplied with the K3 kit except patience. Tom, AK2B ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
Not me, I am CW only and never get above 28.050mHz. de Joe, aa4nn ! > Whatever happened to minding your own business. If Joe wants to open his > radio to all freqs so be it. Maybe he has a good reason. Does it affect > anyone else? No. > ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
Whatever happened to minding your own business. If Joe wants to open his radio to all freqs so be it. Maybe he has a good reason. Does it affect anyone else? No. Ham Radio is starting to remind me of all the homeowner's associations that are run by older folks that have nothing better to do than get in everyone else's business because they have nothing to do. You watch your hen house and I will watch mine. If I need help from you I will be sure to ask. US Amateurs have not been tasked with being the enforcement arm of the FCC. If you are in other countries your mileage my vary. Elecraft has regulatory obligations that they must meet to be in compliance with their certification. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
-Original Message- Before Eric Stops this thread, This is a point I have wondered about for a long time. In the US, it has been illegal to use CB frequencies since the late 70's. To the hams this mean that transverters had only 2 Mhz to work with (28-30mhz) as an IF. This means that a 6 meter transverter had to be crystaled 50-52 or 52-54. The same is true for the other bands that are 4 Mhz wide also. I have often wondered if the FCC would allow an "IF" radio to be built that covers either 26-30 Mhz or 28-32 Mhz to allow tranverters access to both small signal and FM ends of the band. Maybe this is a point that we have been to afraid to ask (with good reason, the FCC scared me well). Maybe there was another answer all along we did not know it. Maybe the popularity of the CB band has dwindled to the point that it is not the hot spot we remember. Still scared Richard Kent WD8AJG K2 5296 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
David Pratt wrote: In a recent message Goody K3NG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes >>I'm not in favor of breaking the law, but I think the chances of running into the FCC today are slim to none. If you don't identify with your ham callsign while using a ham rig on FRS or CB frequencies, it's unlikely anyone, even the FCC will know a difference, or even care. >It is the tendency these days for radio amateurs of all nations to self-regulate. So let us do just that and use equipment which is legal. A CB transceiver can be bought for just a few $, so let's act responsibly and keep the hobbies separate without complicating the issue any further. It is fortunate that the CB bands can be disabled in K3 firmware. My point is not that the K3 should be a CB transceiver, nor am I encouraging someone to use it regularly on CB bands or "combine the hobbies". The point is it would be prudent to have the capability there if you need it. I'm not disputing that in normal situations "legal" CB transceivers are cheap and readily available. The reality is in abnormal situations (i.e. emergencies) they're not readily available. It doesn't matter to me if I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere that Walmart is selling CBs for $15, I don't have a Walmart that I can get to. It doesn't matter that I own a cheap CB if it happens to be at my house if I'm a hundred miles away. While we can preach with blue skies that everyone should be prepared and carry a CB, the fact of the matter is that we can't carry in our vehicles or on our person at every moment every possible tool needed in an emergency. CB disabled on the K3 is like the little saw removed on a Swiss Army knife. Jim Cundiff KB3GFC wrote: >If you can afford $3K for a radio and have the time and desire to volunteer, spend a hundred bucks and buy the CB if you want to TX there! It's not about the money. If it was, anyone could buy a ham rig already on the market cheaper than the K3 that can TX in the CB band and amateur bands. In summary (to the group), it seems the point of this no-TX-in-the-CB band "feature" isn't to keep law-abiding amateurs legal, it's to keep non-hams from using it for a glorified CB. As I've mentioned earlier, the price point, appearance, marketing, and features of the K3 take this so far out of the law-breaking CBer demographic, it's silly to think there would be widespread use of K3s on CB bands in areas where it was illegal. The potential benefits of having CB TX available far outweigh the risks. Not to get mellowdramatic, but it seems often in amateur radio today, we've thrown out common sense and practical reality for legalistic and/or idealistic principles. That is what several of the arguments here are doing. Everyone (in the US) should keep a paper copy of Part 95 and 97 with them for emergencies -- it makes a good fire starter. 73 K3NG Goody -- Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
I'm just a dumb ole country boy that somehow wound up in a big city. A few thoughts on this subject, in no particular order, would be as follows. 1. Plan before acting. 2. Use the right tool for the job. 3. Count to 10 before diving into something. 4. Use your common sense before using anything else. 5. Do what has to be done. Now it seems to me those all apply to the discussion at hand. If one is fortunate enough to afford a K3 and giving enough to volunteer as part of an organized disaster team most likely they also can afford to buy a $39 family radio and a $69 CB. Both would be good items to have and fall under 1 and 2. If on the other hand someone just happens to run around with a nice K3 as their mobile radio of choice and just happens to come across a true life and death emergency, calling for help on CB or other frequencies with it would seem to fall under 4 and 5. The problem seems to me to be a decided lack of ammo for number 4 in far too many cases. Just some old country boy thoughts on the subject. -- 73 K5LDB -- Support the entire Constitution, not just the parts you like. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
Good morning all, I just had to reply to this thread. First let me say that I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE! JUST MY OPINIONS! Speaking as the past ARES EC for Baltimore, I see no reason to TX on out of band freqs. My group trained on several occasions with a REACT (the CB equivalent to ARES/RACES) operator co-stationed with us. The scenarios called for mobile REACT ops to patrol their area, and on finding a problem, calling their person at our site. That person would relay, in person, to my op and they would put the info out on VHF to the EOC or whoever. This worked great! It never fails to amuse me that grown men (_Not just this list or hobby_, but in everything I have been involved with) will spend a bazillion dollars for a top of the line piece of gear and then try to nickel and dime their way through all the accessories. If you can afford $3K for a radio and have the time and desire to volunteer, spend a hundred bucks and buy the CB if you want to TX there! Then spend another hundred and buy a good pelican case to transport it! No, I am not affiliated in any way with Pelican. I have known of one of their boxes bouncing out of the back of a utility company truck doing 60 mph on I-95! A customer retrieved it and called us. The box was not even damaged as to needing replacement! and the instrument was unaffected! I wouldn't put my $3k rig in anything else! Having said all that, remember that the rules say that IF in a true life threatening situation, you may use whatever means at your disposal to summon help! I MEAN NO DISRESPECT TO ANYONE! JUST MY OPINIONS! Thank you for allowing me to exercise my soapbox! I will now slip back into the shadows and enjoy this list, wishing all on the list a Merry Christmas and Happy new year. 73 In His service, Jim Cundiff KB3GFC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 17:15 +1100, Shaun Oliver wrote: > I quite agree. even the vaunted yaesu ft817 with a few jumper > modifications can be made for general coverage tx. > shaun. the FT817 can have general coverage TX enabled and have it's region changed by software alone. A firmware reset restores the region set by the hardware jumpers 73 Brendan EI6IZ -- Don‘t complain. Nobody will understand. Or care. And certainly don‘t try to fix the situation yourself. It‘s dangerous. Leave it to a highly untrained, unqualified, expendable professional. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] CB band TX? - I'm shocked!
Whats also concerning is that this decision has been made only from the perspective of US laws not even taking into consideration the international market. In Australia there is a legal 27mhz marine band that is monitored and has full legal status just as the VHF FM marine band does. Its use is probably bigger than the VHF marine band which has strict regulations and channel occupation usage rules. So if i am not legally allowed to use a non type accepted radio on 12 mhz marine why would 27 mhz be any different and be singled out? I am still breaking the law! In many places in the Pacific 27 mhz CB has become the equivalent of the bush telephone. When you cruise or sail you can order fuel, supplies or even call the doctor to the other side of the Island on 27 mhz. The decision in many ways is hypocritical especially when you consider that the K3 is not type accepted for Marine HF use, nor is it NTIA certified for MARS. However i am sure many will be used on these frequencies. I would be more concerned about breaking NTIA rules than FCC 27mhz rules. If you were applying the law impartially you would not allow any out of band TX while the radio has no legal status except on the ham bands. Craig VK3HE --- Goody K3NG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I don't see a problem with CB transmit capabilities. > In fact, I think > it should be configurable by the end user. Let me > explain. > > Recently our county has been getting its act > together in regards to > Emcomm, so we've been doing drills and educational > programs at > meetings. As an amateur, you need to be prepared to > communicate on > non-ham frequencies, like FRS or CB. Sometimes in a > disaster situation > you may need to communicate with non-hams who are > only equipped with FRS > or CB. One prime example of this in a drill we did > was a trucker coming > in to deliver supplies to a shelter. We needed to > "talk in" the driver > to the shelter over CB. > > As far as "soiling" your K3, look at it this way; > you'll probably have > the sweetest, cleanest sounding AM signal on the CB > band :-) Yea, I > know it's not type accepted for use in CB/Part 95, > but neither are the > thousands of amplifiers and "specially tuned" chrome > monsters you see on > eBay each day. Also, any CBer wanting a hot signal > isn't going to buy > an Elecraft K3. For much less money they can buy > one of those garbage > rigs and a "six pill" amp with more so-called "talk > power". > > All my rigs are modified for "DC to daylight" > transmit. Do I ever use > it? No, but it's good to know that if I'm ever put > in the situation I > can fire up communications on most any band in a > heartbeat. Sure, I can > wreak havoc on any band as well with my equipment > and its expanded > functionality, but that's why we're licensed > amateurs.we know not to > do that stuff and we have the know how and > motivation to use our powers > for good, not evil > > 73 > Goody > K3NG > > Ken Kopp wrote: > > Eric's reply (below) reads as if the K3 will TX in > the 27 mHz > > CB band as built. Surely no self-respecting > Elecraft owner > > would soil his radio by transmitting in the CB > band! The > > radio should self-destruct if a user attempted to > transmit > > there. > > > > It should -always- block CB band transmit. I don't > know of a > > legitimate reason for a K3 to transmit on 27 Mhz > anywhere > > in the world. > > > > Say it isn't so, please > > > > > > > -- > Blog: http://thek3ngreport.blogspot.com/ > > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
