[Elecraft] [K3] firmware update notification
Just checking, I see there is a later release of firmware available (1.58), but didn't see any notification of that on the reflector. Just wondering if I missed it? -- Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right. -Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] NO audio - Remote Ham Radio Deluxe 3.5
Alan D. Wilcox wrote: Hello, HRD runs fine remotely over my LAN. The host (server) PC is connected (via COM1) to the K3. But ... Minor detail escapes me: the K3 audio isn't getting to me at the remote PC. Audio output from the K3 goes into the host PC sound card, then comes out to a couple speakers local to the K3. I would assume that the HRD remote server would pickup that audio and ship it out over the LAN to be streamed to my remote PC along with the HRD display. Seeing the radio remotely is nice I suppose, but not much good if I can't hear it! I'm not too familiar with HRD yet, so I'm sure this is a simple option or setting I'm missing. Didn't see anything in the help file. Thanks for insight, Alan From the HRD server docs: The remote server does not support audio. For audio (or VOIP) the following options are available: SKYPE – www.skype.com, MSN Messenger, Audio streaming – for example the Helix Server – Basic from RealNetworks Inc. – www.realnetworks.com . There's another option that I tried once because it even supports audio to a PocketPC client: Microsoft Portrait. http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/ . Also if you download the trial version of the LakeOfSoft VC components for Delphi, there are precompiled demo programs that can be used to stream audio between two computers. Perhaps someone should buy Simon a copy so he can incorporate this into HRD itself. :) - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/NO-audio---Remote-Ham-Radio-Deluxe-3.5-tp14748055p14753070.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K1: Potential new product
This SGC page has links to 3 different reviews about ADSP2 -RadCom 11/03 -QST 01/04 -CQ May/04 I agree that 80mA is much compared to K1`s own 55mA. Elecraft KDSP2 takes 60mA (10mA in standby) and might not go in K1. Maybe an external unit is better. It can be left at home with power supply and current consumption. Experience shows that input level should be from loudspeaker line. Specs say 10mVrms min input for Lo unit, 100mVrms for Hi unit. To have a DSP Noice Reduction and AF-filter in K1 you might put this Low Power Board inside K1: http://www.sgcworld.com/ADSPProductPage.html Benny oh9nb ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] firmware update notification
Could I request that a very short notification to the Elecraft reflector (this one) be made when K3 firmware is updated, please. Just a short note like Today we released updated firmware for the K3 would be sufficient. All K3 owners will know to use their update tool to get it (or know were to look on web) and any info about the upgrade should be in the release notes (please Elecraft, do ensure info about the upgrade is well documented in the notes). So there should be no need for a long note about the update disturbing non K3 owners. On 11/1/08 10:58, Ed K1EP [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: At 1/11/2008 03:53 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Just checking, I see there is a later release of firmware available (1.58), but didn't see any notification of that on the reflector. Just wondering if I missed it? At one time, or more accurately, for one release, there was an email to a specific K3 owners distribution list. (It was a distribution and notification list, from Elecraft only, not a list for discussion.) Most other times, Eric made an announcement on this list. There is an option in the downloader software to check every 6 hours. I don't think that is practical for everyone, but I think that the owner's list notification should be reinstated. Mailing to the entire Elecraft list is fine, but it interrupts discussions of the latest serial numbers delivered. -- No sensible decision can be made any longer without taking into account not only the world as it is, but the world as it will be. -Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] NO audio - Remote Ham Radio Deluxe 3.5
Thanks, Julian. Simple answer that I didn't see in the doc. Not what I wanted to hear tho! Searched and found IP-Sound at http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Software/Radio_Control/ The program was written for just such a situation. Thanks again, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com Williamsport, PA 17701 G4ILO wrote: Alan D. Wilcox wrote: Hello, HRD runs fine remotely over my LAN. The host (server) PC is connected (via COM1) to the K3. But ... Minor detail escapes me: the K3 audio isn't getting to me at the remote PC. Audio output from the K3 goes into the host PC sound card, then comes out to a couple speakers local to the K3. I would assume that the HRD remote server would pickup that audio and ship it out over the LAN to be streamed to my remote PC along with the HRD display. Seeing the radio remotely is nice I suppose, but not much good if I can't hear it! I'm not too familiar with HRD yet, so I'm sure this is a simple option or setting I'm missing. Didn't see anything in the help file. Thanks for insight, Alan From the HRD server docs: The remote server does not support audio. For audio (or VOIP) the following options are available: SKYPE – www.skype.com, MSN Messenger, Audio streaming – for example the Helix Server – Basic from RealNetworks Inc. – www.realnetworks.com . There's another option that I tried once because it even supports audio to a PocketPC client: Microsoft Portrait. http://research.microsoft.com/mcom/portrait/ . Also if you download the trial version of the LakeOfSoft VC components for Delphi, there are precompiled demo programs that can be used to stream audio between two computers. Perhaps someone should buy Simon a copy so he can incorporate this into HRD itself. :) - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1: Potential new product
If a really low power DSP could be made for the K1 and/or KX1 - say, one that consumes 10 to 15 mA from a nominal 6V supply, less from a higher voltage - which features would you be seeking? Selectable bandpass filters? Auonotch? Denoiser? Which would you be wiling to give up? No, there is no project like this in the works, but I tend to think about DSP... Thanks! Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K1: Potential new product
The inclusion of the KX1 in this discussion is getting very close to saying that a small DSP unit should be created as an external option. There is just not room in the KX1 to add much of anything (unless the internal battery space is sacrificed. But then Lyle has created magic before, so he may be able to put one in if it has really tiny SMD technology. A small DSP board should easily be feasible inside the K1. I don't have a metro, but leather seats are really nice. :-) 73, Don W3FPR John Harper wrote: If a really low power DSP could be made for the K1 and/or KX1 - say, one that consumes 10 to 15 mA from a nominal 6V supply, less from a higher voltage - which features would you be seeking? I have both of those rigs and like them a lot but don't really think either are DSP-worthy, given how and where the rigs were designed to be used. The bandwidth controls on them are perfectly matched to the rig's other capabilities. Adding DSP to them would be sort of like buying 3rd party leather seats for a Geo Metro. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] NO audio - Remote Ham Radio Deluxe 3.5
Alan D. Wilcox wrote: Thanks, Julian. Simple answer that I didn't see in the doc. Not what I wanted to hear tho! Searched and found IP-Sound at http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Software/Radio_Control/ The program was written for just such a situation. Someone just sent me a link to that, too. http://xoomer.alice.it/ham-radio-manuals/IPS-v0.57a-Finale.zip . I presume it is the same thing. I haven't tried it, but perhaps someone will find the link useful. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/NO-audio---Remote-Ham-Radio-Deluxe-3.5-tp14748055p14758921.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m
Hello, I gave away the feeble old PC I had by my radio equipment and replaced it with a newer one ... Now I have S9+ noise wiping out 20 and 30 meters. Using same keyboard, mouse, monitor; just the PC in a new case. Evidently it has a noisy switcher supply in it. Tried 110V in-line filter, also different 110V house circuit, but still have noise. Grounds don't help. Don't happen to have a box of toroids for chokes. I've got an old PC supply or two in the junk box, but hoping something else might fix. Any thoughts on an easy fix? Thanks, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com Williamsport, PA 17701 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] firmware download issue
Greetings all, and FWIW: Downloaded the new K3 firmware utility v 1.1.1.7 and installed it, and then started a firmware download for the new K3 firmware 1.58/1.48 by clicking on Send all new firmware to K3. The MCU firmware downloaded OK; the DSP download ran until three bars showed in the progress indicator, and then Windows XP blue-screened, leaving the K3 disabled with a DSP error. I tried this several times and got the same result at about the same point in the download. Then I tried lowering the baud rate of the K3's serial port from 38400 to 9600, and was able to get the DSP firmware loaded, though it took a long time. Don't know what changed, but I've done several firmware downloads previously at 38400 and never had a problem. No other hardware/software changes have been done on the PC for some time. Wonder if anybody else has experienced something like this with the new version of the K3 utility? I also notice that while the download is running, the K3 display repeats new K3 utility required over and over, but often sending only a few characters and then starting over again. Don't know if this is significant, but.. 73, Van W1WCG - Original Message - From: John Hoaglun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:10 PM Subject: [Elecraft] XV222 tune-up issues Solved I figured out my tune-up issue. After some pondering, checking that all of the pieces were in the right spot and looking at the data about the test points in the back of the book I figured out that I needed to tweak R39. Once I did that I started getting RF output and then the rest of the tune started working MUCH better. R39 need to be adjusted higher than the 20mv @ TP5 that is listed in the book. That was the magic for me. I will be wiring it up tonight into the station so that I can try to get it tested on the air tomorrow night. We are a little over a week from the Jan VHF contest and I am still building things. 73 -- John Hoaglun NG0R - EN25 http://www.hoaglun.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/8/2008 1:38 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: K1: Potential new product
If a really low power DSP could be made for the K1 and/or KX1 - say, one that consumes 10 to 15 mA from a nominal 6V supply, less from a higher voltage - which features would you be seeking? I have both of those rigs and like them a lot but don't really think either are DSP-worthy, given how and where the rigs were designed to be used. The bandwidth controls on them are perfectly matched to the rig's other capabilities. Adding DSP to them would be sort of like buying 3rd party leather seats for a Geo Metro. John Harper AE5X http://www.ae5x.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m
Alan D. Wilcox wrote: Hello, I gave away the feeble old PC I had by my radio equipment and replaced it with a newer one ... Now I have S9+ noise wiping out 20 and 30 meters. Using same keyboard, mouse, monitor; just the PC in a new case. Evidently it has a noisy switcher supply in it. Tried 110V in-line filter, also different 110V house circuit, but still have noise. Grounds don't help. Don't happen to have a box of toroids for chokes. It's very likely to be the power supply, especially if it is a home build or a local PC store build rather than a branded model. Most of the PC cases and power supplies that home builders and small assemblers use are made in China, and the manufacturers often leave out all the components they can get away with, like anything to do with interference suppression. I remember someone a few years ago took apart a noisy power supply and could see all the holes in the PC board where the suppression components should have been. It was quite an eye opener. Replace it with a power supply from a decent manufacturer and all should be OK. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Computer-Noise-ruining-20---30m-tp14758232p14759124.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:03:27 -0500, W3DVX wrote: Hello, I gave away the feeble old PC I had by my radio equipment and replaced it with a newer one ... Now I have S9+ noise wiping out 20 and 30 meters. Using same keyboard, mouse, monitor; just the PC in a new case. Evidently it has a noisy switcher supply in it. Tried 110V in-line filter, also different 110V house circuit, but still have noise. Grounds don't help. Don't happen to have a box of toroids for chokes. I've got an old PC supply or two in the junk box, but hoping something else might fix. Does anyone have a sample recording of a switching power supply noise they could post somewhere? I don't use a switching power supply for running the rigs here, but I'm using a new style dual core power supply in my computer. Trouble is I don't know what the switching noise sounds like. Thanks, Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. http://www.n5ge.com http://www.eQSL.cc/Member.cfm?N5GE ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] firmware update notification
- Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:21 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] firmware update notification Could I request that a very short notification to the Elecraft reflector (this one) be made when K3 firmware is updated, please. Just a short note like Today we released updated firmware for the K3 would be sufficient. All K3 owners will know to use their update tool to get it (or know were to look on web) and any info about the upgrade should be in the release notes (please Elecraft, do ensure info about the upgrade is well documented in the notes). So there should be no need for a long note about the update disturbing non K3 owners. I agree with David on this. While I think it is admirable to maintain a separate mailing list for K3 owners, I think it is highly possible for some folks to slip through the crack--at least temporarily. All of us should be monitoring the reflector, and I think it is much more efficient to give just a short notice here. If you want to do both, that's fine too. Of course, we can also keep checking the firware section on the website, but that involves a lot of trips there with no results. Besides, just because you don't have your K3 yet doesn't mean you aren't interesting in knowing what's happening with the firmware. I would think the announcement, along with a brief description of its content, would be not only appropriate, but appreciated by most folks on the list. If not, there is always the delete key. Dave W7AQK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Have Cash....Will Buy...K3
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, fraz1 wrote: Any configuration So how much above list price are you willing to pay? 10%, 20%, 50%, 75%, 100% Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Computer noise in audio with K3 and Microkeyer
I found I had a noise problem on the audio input when running through the MicroHam Microkeyer. I could hear it on the monitor. The noise would go away when I unplugged the USB cable but come back in a second or two after I plugged the USB cable back in. I solved the problem by running the K3 at 38400 baud instead of 4800 baud. At the higher speed the noise went away. Just another anecdote for the archives. k4ia Buck Fredericksburg, VA **Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] firmware update notification
But as we were saying, running the auto-check involves having the program running all the time, and I have about 100 processes running on my Mac as it is. A short note just means we don't have to check all the time. On 11/1/08 16:05, Bruce Bowman [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Or you can use the auto-check facility which is a part of the K3 Utiility. Bruce, NM5B Just a short note like Today we released updated firmware for the K3 would be sufficient. All ... -- Being a System Administrator is like being a plumber. If you do a good job, nobody knows. If you screw up, everybody gets covered in s**t! ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] firmware update notification
Autocheck? There ARE still some who are dial-up only. (:-)) 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] NO audio - Remote Ham Radio Deluxe 3.5
SOLUTION: Loaded IP-Sound v0.57a (newest I could find) and it's running perfectly. (Listening to CHU at 7335 at the moment.) I really like the K3's pseudo-stereo feature, so I'm doing the PCM 8kHz stereo codec. It reports using about 33 kB/s bandwidth on the LAN (which is wireless down to the radio). Still yet to do: figure out HRD and how to do CW and PSK31 remotely. http://xoomer.alice.it/ham-radio-manuals/IPS-v0.57a-Finale.zip is the IP-Sound that I used. Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com Williamsport, PA 17701 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alan, I'm in EXACTLY the same situation as you are. HRD is FB on my laptop via my LAN, but no audio is available. If you get skype or some other audio program to work for you, I'd really appreciate hearing from you about how you got it to work via your LAN. I tried my best to get that done a few months ago, but finally decided I was wasting too much time in a fruitless effort even with some other hams who tried to help. Thanks es 73, Steve Banks K0PQ Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Alan D. Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 20:35:32 To:elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] NO audio - Remote Ham Radio Deluxe 3.5 Hello, HRD runs fine remotely over my LAN. The host (server) PC is connected (via COM1) to the K3. But ... Minor detail escapes me: the K3 audio isn't getting to me at the remote PC. Audio output from the K3 goes into the host PC sound card, then comes out to a couple speakers local to the K3. I would assume that the HRD remote server would pickup that audio and ship it out over the LAN to be streamed to my remote PC along with the HRD display. Seeing the radio remotely is nice I suppose, but not much good if I can't hear it! I'm not too familiar with HRD yet, so I'm sure this is a simple option or setting I'm missing. Didn't see anything in the help file. Thanks for insight, Alan ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m
I have had good luck replacing RF noisy PC power supplies with PC Power Cooling Supplies. They seem to be well filtered. http://www.pcpower.com/index.html By the way, something I did in my shack that significantly reduced noise pickup: - Any coax line that has to do with receiving I use 100% shielded RG6 with a compression type F-connector. Where I didn't change to an F- female jack, I use an F-adapter to PL-259 or 1/4 phono. - Any coax line that has to do with transmitting I use 100% shielded Buryflex. It was amazing how much noise pickup dropped by getting rid of RG-213, RG-8X and RG-58 in the shack. N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W5WVO Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:58 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m One thing to be aware of -- and I too have had quite a bit of undesired experience in this area -- hash from switching power supplies in computers is typically common mode noise, not differential noise. Consequently, a differential line filter often won't knock it down very much, if at all. What you need is ferrite toroids -- big ones -- around and through which you wind the power cord. In my case, the computer power supply is a 470W job in an ATX form factor, and because of the high power components, there wasn't any room in the PS case for filtering! So the RF noise from this PS was horrendous. It took TWO large ferrite donuts in series, with the ENTIRE power cord wound around them, to suppress the noise on 6M. I had bought a rather expensive differential noise filter for the line, and it did absolutely nothing. Brute-force common-mode filtering using ferrite toroids will usually cure the problem, but you may need a lot more saturability than you think. Bill W5WVO G4ILO wrote: Alan D. Wilcox wrote: Hello, I gave away the feeble old PC I had by my radio equipment and replaced it with a newer one ... Now I have S9+ noise wiping out 20 and 30 meters. Using same keyboard, mouse, monitor; just the PC in a new case. Evidently it has a noisy switcher supply in it. Tried 110V in-line filter, also different 110V house circuit, but still have noise. Grounds don't help. Don't happen to have a box of toroids for chokes. It's very likely to be the power supply, especially if it is a home build or a local PC store build rather than a branded model. Most of the PC cases and power supplies that home builders and small assemblers use are made in China, and the manufacturers often leave out all the components they can get away with, like anything to do with interference suppression. I remember someone a few years ago took apart a noisy power supply and could see all the holes in the PC board where the suppression components should have been. It was quite an eye opener. Replace it with a power supply from a decent manufacturer and all should be OK. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m
I realize this is not a specific Elecraft topic but it is in response to a request and it is on a radio subject. It would be interesting on reports on what the K3 noise blankers do on this type of noise. First of all I am no engineer but I have had some experience with this problem. I got the top of the line Carcom line filter based on suggestions on the 160 reflector and installed it right to the PC with about 1 inch of line cord and I put ferrite on that 1 inch. I knocked the noise down a bunch, I have to do some testing on a dead band to see if it is all gone but it made a huge improvement. I have to suspect your AC line filter is not a very good one OR the case is leaking. I say this because using the AC line filter seems to be the common cure that works. Fortunately my case was metal but on a lot of the new computers there is a lot of the case that is plastic. For me the problem was the worst on 160 meters. From my tests the noise was coming in over the antenna I was going to switch computer power supplies but my old ones did not provide the extra voltage line that most of the newer supplies do and that my mother board required. If I remember correctly the extra line had to do with the dual processor. It is kind of a catch 22 as the newer supplies that plug into the newer computers just are not built like they were for filtering. I am hoping someone can suggest a power supply that work with the newer computers that can be bought from places like Tiger direct etc. that is well built and quiet. One hates to buy a new supply and have the same problem and from what I can tell the odds of that happening are pretty high.. One could try and determine the noise level on a broadcast receiver and then go to a friendly computer shop and try some supplies until you found a quiet one on the broadcast receiver. That might not be all that cheap if you have to try several and take up a lot of time. It seems to me buying one that is of good design that others have not had problems with would make the most sense if one knew which one to buy. . Another approach is if someone would buy a supply and fix it and then document what supply it was and how they fixed it with filtering and toroids it would be a great service as this problem is going to be become very common as us hams update our computers. Actually I suspect they are all built about the same so what worked on one would work on all of them. A good article for one of the ham magazine but for now it could be on a web site. I will be interested in what others say. Another common problem is birdies from the Router and CAT5E cable. I am digging into that, here they seem to be on all the bands spread out. One can work around them but I want to get rid of them. Toroids seem to be one answer as a lot of routers have this problem. Again if someone knows of a router that is clean that would be an easier fix as some of the big toroids are not cheap. I guess one could buy various routers and take them back within the 30 day return period until you found a clean one but it sure would save a lot of hams a lot of trouble to know of one that is clean. I would be interested in what others say on this subject. Thanks Ed W0SD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] firmware download issue
Ouch! Please visit your USB to Serial adapter manufacturer's driver web site and see if your USB adapter drivers are out of date. If you're using the Elecraft KUSB, the Prolific web site link is in the K3 Utility's Help. I've heard a few reports of blue screen problems and all were resolved by the current Prolific drivers. The K3 Utility is using just the standard Win32 Serial I/O API, but sometimes responses don't come back when expected, and the CancelIo I need to issue is not handled well by some drivers. This doesn't show up unless there's some other communications problem. If you can, I'd be interested in the event log entry that corresponds to your blue screen event. The event viewer can be launched from a command line with eventvwr. I'll look again at the code that checks for a new utility version requirement. Maybe the end-of-year wraparound exposed a problem. Please let us know of bugs like this through [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Van W1WCG Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:35 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] firmware download issue Greetings all, and FWIW: Downloaded the new K3 firmware utility v 1.1.1.7 and installed it, and then started a firmware download for the new K3 firmware 1.58/1.48 by clicking on Send all new firmware to K3. The MCU firmware downloaded OK; the DSP download ran until three bars showed in the progress indicator, and then Windows XP blue-screened, leaving the K3 disabled with a DSP error. I tried this several times and got the same result at about the same point in the download. Then I tried lowering the baud rate of the K3's serial port from 38400 to 9600, and was able to get the DSP firmware loaded, though it took a long time. Don't know what changed, but I've done several firmware downloads previously at 38400 and never had a problem. No other hardware/software changes have been done on the PC for some time. Wonder if anybody else has experienced something like this with the new version of the K3 utility? I also notice that while the download is running, the K3 display repeats new K3 utility required over and over, but often sending only a few characters and then starting over again. Don't know if this is significant, but.. 73, Van W1WCG - Original Message - From: John Hoaglun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 11:10 PM Subject: [Elecraft] XV222 tune-up issues Solved I figured out my tune-up issue. After some pondering, checking that all of the pieces were in the right spot and looking at the data about the test points in the back of the book I figured out that I needed to tweak R39. Once I did that I started getting RF output and then the rest of the tune started working MUCH better. R39 need to be adjusted higher than the 20mv @ TP5 that is listed in the book. That was the magic for me. I will be wiring it up tonight into the station so that I can try to get it tested on the air tomorrow night. We are a little over a week from the Jan VHF contest and I am still building things. 73 -- John Hoaglun NG0R - EN25 http://www.hoaglun.com -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.13/1214 - Release Date: 1/8/2008 1:38 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 serial cable
TX Data, RX Data, and Signal Ground are the only lines required for firmware loading. However you may find it useful to also wire DTR and RTS so that computer logging / keying programs can use these leads for PTT and CW keying. Details of which pins are what are in the KIO3 section of the K3 Owner's manual (currently page 18). I generally would recommend a shielded straight through 9-pin M-F DB-9 serial cable. All 9 pins wired so that each pin on one end is wired to the same pin on the other. Avoid crossover or null modem cables. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 serial cable Paul, Yes, but... it needs a DE9 male on one end, a DE9 female on the other. The computer port has a male jack and the K2 has a female jack. Look at the cable construction information in the KIO2 or KPA100 manuals. You have the pins correct, but the wire you have will not likely provide enough isolation - If you do not have the proper 4 conductor shielded cable, I would suggest that you use CAT-3 or CAT5 wire which has twisted pairs (you need two twisted pairs) to take advantage of the signal isolation the twisted pairs will provide - connect one side of a pair to pins 3, and the other side of the same pair to pin 5 - a second pair connects one side to pin 2, and that pair's return is also connected to pin 5. If the CAT5 or CAT3 cable is shielded, I would connect the drain wire to pin 1 at the K2 end only so it acts like a faraday shield - caution: pin 1 at the computer end is NOT the shield connection (it is carrier detect), if you want to connect a shield at both ends, connect it to the DE9 shell at the computer end (see RS-232 pinout for DE9 connectors) 73, Don W3FPR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the K3 F/F DE-9 serial cable only needs TX, RX, and SG? Pins 2, 3, and 5 only... Straight through... I've got some cable with one twisted pair inside a foil shield with an un-insulated ground wire (I believe it's called the drain) in there too, and it contacts the foil shield full length. Would that work? Should I slip some ferrites (which I already have) over the cable's jacket before soldering the DE-9/F's on? 73, ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] MCU 1.58 AUTOINF not showing up in menu]
Hi Mike, Turn Tech MD menu item to ON to enable this menu item. 73, Eric WA6HHQ = Original Message Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 1.58 AUTOINF not showing up in menu Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:23:12 -0500 From: Mike Penkas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Just did the 1.58 update and AUTOINF does not seem to show up in either of the Menus. Am I missing something? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] NO audio - Remote Ham Radio Deluxe 3.5
Alan, I am using HRD and IP sound for a 6 meter SSB remote base. Only problem is that the radio is a TS-2000, and the site is screaming for a K3 on 6! tom bosscher Searched and found IP-Sound at http://www.dxzone.com/catalog/Software/Radio_Control/ The program was written for just such a situation. Thanks again, Alan ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 serial cable
Paul, Yes, but... it needs a DE9 male on one end, a DE9 female on the other. The computer port has a male jack and the K2 has a female jack. Look at the cable construction information in the KIO2 or KPA100 manuals. You have the pins correct, but the wire you have will not likely provide enough isolation - If you do not have the proper 4 conductor shielded cable, I would suggest that you use CAT-3 or CAT5 wire which has twisted pairs (you need two twisted pairs) to take advantage of the signal isolation the twisted pairs will provide - connect one side of a pair to pins 3, and the other side of the same pair to pin 5 - a second pair connects one side to pin 2, and that pair's return is also connected to pin 5. If the CAT5 or CAT3 cable is shielded, I would connect the drain wire to pin 1 at the K2 end only so it acts like a faraday shield - caution: pin 1 at the computer end is NOT the shield connection (it is carrier detect), if you want to connect a shield at both ends, connect it to the DE9 shell at the computer end (see RS-232 pinout for DE9 connectors) 73, Don W3FPR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the K3 F/F DE-9 serial cable only needs TX, RX, and SG? Pins 2, 3, and 5 only... Straight through... I've got some cable with one twisted pair inside a foil shield with an un-insulated ground wire (I believe it's called the drain) in there too, and it contacts the foil shield full length. Would that work? Should I slip some ferrites (which I already have) over the cable's jacket before soldering the DE-9/F's on? 73, ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m
SOLVED! Just replaced the 400w supply with a 300w that I had in the junk box. Both foreign cheap units, but that's all the local PC shops seem to carry (at least at my QTH). The replacement is nicely quiet ... and a lot easier fix than what I was dreading! Now that I can hear the radio properly, back to doing the remote audio with HRD. Thanks for the help! Alan Alan D. Wilcox wrote: Hello, I gave away the feeble old PC I had by my radio equipment and replaced it with a newer one ... Now I have S9+ noise wiping out 20 and 30 meters. Using same keyboard, mouse, monitor; just the PC in a new case. Evidently it has a noisy switcher supply in it. Tried 110V in-line filter, also different 110V house circuit, but still have noise. Grounds don't help. Don't happen to have a box of toroids for chokes. I've got an old PC supply or two in the junk box, but hoping something else might fix. Any thoughts on an easy fix? Thanks, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com Williamsport, PA 17701 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: CW-to-RTTY with message buffers: are spaces there?
OK... I was gonna hold off commenting here, but NOW Bill, Rick and Vic have weighed in I've gotta do the same... G K2VCO wrote: I had quite a bit of a problem *recording* messages because of a similar phenomenon. For example, the K3 understands my call as K2 VCO. The extra space that I send between the 2 and the V is more than a letter space (apparently) but less than a word space. The K3 records it as a word space, so when I play it back it sounds like that. When I tried to correct this, I ended up sending less than a normal letter space, the K3 did not understand my sending and recorded nothing! I had SIGNIFICANTLY more problems recording using the original K3 algorithms than I do now. Now, unless I make a keying error (e.g. wrong character, etc.) I can always record a 'clean' message... before, I had to make MANY(!) attempts. Obviously I must be doing something wrong... G Not sure if a 'real time load' feature could be added without significant complication, but that might be the only way to make some folks happy. Of course, we'll NEVER be able to satisfy everyone... One way to handle this would be to use 1/4 letter space as the basic spacing element. Then recording, decoding, and playback would be closer to real-time. Can you 'splain this a bit better Vic? Never heard of this method of timing... always worked on the baud method. Tom ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually
I do not see the need for using the CW delay time when manually exiting xmit mode when I press the XMIT button. I would expect the rig to return to receive mode as soon as the button is pressed. If I set the CW delay to zero, the return is instantaneous. I admit that I only rarely use the manual XMIT mode but I find it distracting when I do. John[K7SVV] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m
Great suggestion, Tony! A good way to tell if your RFI is being picked up by leaky coax in the shack or by your beam is to rotate the beam. If the noise changes amplitude during rotation, then at least some of it is being picked up by your antenna, and the only solution is to eliminate the noise at its source. This was the case in my situation, where my 6M stacked yagis are fairly close to the shack (about 35 ft), but far enough to one side that the directivity of the array had an effect. Bill W5WVO N2TK wrote: I have had good luck replacing RF noisy PC power supplies with PC Power Cooling Supplies. They seem to be well filtered. http://www.pcpower.com/index.html By the way, something I did in my shack that significantly reduced noise pickup: - Any coax line that has to do with receiving I use 100% shielded RG6 with a compression type F-connector. Where I didn't change to an F- female jack, I use an F-adapter to PL-259 or 1/4 phono. - Any coax line that has to do with transmitting I use 100% shielded Buryflex. It was amazing how much noise pickup dropped by getting rid of RG-213, RG-8X and RG-58 in the shack. N2TK, Tony -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W5WVO Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 11:58 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m One thing to be aware of -- and I too have had quite a bit of undesired experience in this area -- hash from switching power supplies in computers is typically common mode noise, not differential noise. Consequently, a differential line filter often won't knock it down very much, if at all. What you need is ferrite toroids -- big ones -- around and through which you wind the power cord. In my case, the computer power supply is a 470W job in an ATX form factor, and because of the high power components, there wasn't any room in the PS case for filtering! So the RF noise from this PS was horrendous. It took TWO large ferrite donuts in series, with the ENTIRE power cord wound around them, to suppress the noise on 6M. I had bought a rather expensive differential noise filter for the line, and it did absolutely nothing. Brute-force common-mode filtering using ferrite toroids will usually cure the problem, but you may need a lot more saturability than you think. Bill W5WVO G4ILO wrote: Alan D. Wilcox wrote: Hello, I gave away the feeble old PC I had by my radio equipment and replaced it with a newer one ... Now I have S9+ noise wiping out 20 and 30 meters. Using same keyboard, mouse, monitor; just the PC in a new case. Evidently it has a noisy switcher supply in it. Tried 110V in-line filter, also different 110V house circuit, but still have noise. Grounds don't help. Don't happen to have a box of toroids for chokes. It's very likely to be the power supply, especially if it is a home build or a local PC store build rather than a branded model. Most of the PC cases and power supplies that home builders and small assemblers use are made in China, and the manufacturers often leave out all the components they can get away with, like anything to do with interference suppression. I remember someone a few years ago took apart a noisy power supply and could see all the holes in the PC board where the suppression components should have been. It was quite an eye opener. Replace it with a power supply from a decent manufacturer and all should be OK. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually
I should have mentioned that this happens in CW mode and not SSB mode. John[K7SVV] - Original Message - From: John [K7SVV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Mail List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:41 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually I do not see the need for using the CW delay time when manually exiting xmit mode when I press the XMIT button. I would expect the rig to return to receive mode as soon as the button is pressed. If I set the CW delay to zero, the return is instantaneous. I admit that I only rarely use the manual XMIT mode but I find it distracting when I do. John[K7SVV] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 10:19 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m
Yup. Lower wattage supply uses smaller componets which allows the inclusion of filter components (presumably due to more room in chassis space and components budget). It's a hypothetical model, as I've never taken one of these big boys apart, but I've seen going to a lower-power supply fix this kind of noise problem more than once. Of course, don't go to a PS that puts out less power than your computer needs. :-) I saw in another post in this thread that Antec was said to be a power supply one could count on to be less noisy. I think it has a lot more to do with the power rating than with the brand. The PS I had that was putting out so much noise was an Antec, the biggest one they made. I'm still using it, but it is brute-force choked up the yin-yang. Bill W5WVO Alan D. Wilcox wrote: SOLVED! Just replaced the 400w supply with a 300w that I had in the junk box. Both foreign cheap units, but that's all the local PC shops seem to carry (at least at my QTH). The replacement is nicely quiet ... and a lot easier fix than what I was dreading! Now that I can hear the radio properly, back to doing the remote audio with HRD. Thanks for the help! Alan Alan D. Wilcox wrote: Hello, I gave away the feeble old PC I had by my radio equipment and replaced it with a newer one ... Now I have S9+ noise wiping out 20 and 30 meters. Using same keyboard, mouse, monitor; just the PC in a new case. Evidently it has a noisy switcher supply in it. Tried 110V in-line filter, also different 110V house circuit, but still have noise. Grounds don't help. Don't happen to have a box of toroids for chokes. I've got an old PC supply or two in the junk box, but hoping something else might fix. Any thoughts on an easy fix? Thanks, Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com Williamsport, PA 17701 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually
Hi John, sorry for question (as not on my table yet) - is this delay in any case of CW mode or only when any kind of QSK is active? I suppose there is PTT mode for CW also and you are right that in such case there is no reason for any delay. If you have QSK active, I can understand that there is delay also with MOX using (without opinion if this is bug or not - simply understand this :-)). Can you let me know if delay is also in PTT mode? thanks lexa, ok1dst John [K7SVV] napsal(a): I should have mentioned that this happens in CW mode and not SSB mode. John[K7SVV] - Original Message - From: John [K7SVV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Mail List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:41 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3: CW delay is used when exiting XMIT mode manually I do not see the need for using the CW delay time when manually exiting xmit mode when I press the XMIT button. I would expect the rig to return to receive mode as soon as the button is pressed. If I set the CW delay to zero, the return is instantaneous. I admit that I only rarely use the manual XMIT mode but I find it distracting when I do. John[K7SVV] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.1/1219 - Release Date: 1/11/2008 10:19 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Have Cash....Will Buy...K3
What will it take? 73 Dave N3HE - Original Message - From: Thom LaCosta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fraz1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Have CashWill Buy...K3 On Thu, 10 Jan 2008, fraz1 wrote: Any configuration So how much above list price are you willing to pay? 10%, 20%, 50%, 75%, 100% ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] firmware update notification
Wayne was supposed to post it yesterday to the list. He was tied up on other issues and missed this. I just reminded him :-) 73, Eric David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Could I request that a very short notification to the Elecraft reflector (this one) be made when K3 firmware is updated, please. Just a short note like Today we released updated firmware for the K3 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m
Summary: Based on the answers received and spending all morning reading on the WEB it appears PC Power and Cooling, Startec and Antec at least at the higher end have good computer power supplies. One amateur had good success curing his problem with a Startech ATX POW450Pro, two reported good results with PC Power and Cooling and one with Antec. Other possibility is Enermax but no testimonials. A lot of the information is in regards to a low DB noise level to the ear and delivering the power without a voltage drop. and not much on RFI/EMI information. The ones listed above do speak of RFI/EMI. Be sure you buy the right power supply for your computer. They are not nearly as standard as they used to be. Thanks for some great input! Ed W0SD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 Tilt Stand Bolt Size
In a recent message WA7CS [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes What is the bolt/screw size used to connect the tilt stand to the side panels of a K1? Look at the manual for the KTS1 stand at http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KTS1_revG.pdf 73 -- David G4DMP West Yorkshire, England, UK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] New DSP-settings for 100 and 50Hz filters
I loaded new wares 1.58 and 1.48. From Elecraft page this change was e.g. for 100 and 50Hz DSP-filters. My experience is, that both filter outputs were now considerably attenuated. Apparently I should install the old ones, which is not recommended. Anybody else have noticed a change? Benny OH9NB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: K1: Potential new product
John makes a good point. The K1 and KX1 already have much better receivers than most QRP rigs. With those rigs, the ability to make contacts is limited much more by transmitter power than by receiving capability. On the other hand, DSP noise reduction sure does reduce operator fatigue after hours of contest operation. I think NR would be the most important feature, with automatic notch and bandpass filters in the nice to have category but not as important. Al N1AL On Fri, 2008-01-11 at 07:32, John Harper wrote: If a really low power DSP could be made for the K1 and/or KX1 - say, one that consumes 10 to 15 mA from a nominal 6V supply, less from a higher voltage - which features would you be seeking? I have both of those rigs and like them a lot but don't really think either are DSP-worthy, given how and where the rigs were designed to be used. The bandwidth controls on them are perfectly matched to the rig's other capabilities. Adding DSP to them would be sort of like buying 3rd party leather seats for a Geo Metro. John Harper AE5X http://www.ae5x.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Computer Noise ruining 20 30m
On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:20:39 -0500, N2TK wrote: I have had good luck replacing RF noisy PC power supplies with PC Power Cooling Supplies. They seem to be well filtered. I use them in all three computers in the house. No noise problems. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Re: CW-to-RTTY with message buffers: are spaces there?
Tom Hammond wrote: One way to handle this would be to use 1/4 letter space as the basic spacing element. Then recording, decoding, and playback would be closer to real-time. Can you 'splain this a bit better Vic? Never heard of this method of timing... always worked on the baud method. First I have to reverse-engineer Wayne's code! The firmware now listens to the spaces between characters as you send. If the space is less than some fixed threshold it assumes that it is a letter space; if more, a word space. When it records what you have sent, it puts in a token that indicates either a word space or a letter space is needed. During playback, when it comes to a letter-space token it waits for the appropriate time (whatever that is); when it comes to a word-space token it waits longer. This means that while you are recording, if you wait a little bit past the threshold that it uses to decide what size space it is, it will put in a word space token. So when I send my call K 2VCO, I get K 2VCO. My suggestion is that instead of just two possibilities for spacing, there should be more. This could be implemented by creating tokens for smaller spaces, like 1/4 of a letter space. That would sound almost like a real-time recording, in terms of preserving the spacing as sent. But even using units of half of a letter space would avoid the difficulty that those of us who do not send like tape machines have when recording messages! -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] New DSP-settings for 100 and 50Hz filters
Benny If you switch the DSP by tapping 7 while in the filter menu and have 50 or 100 Hz bandwidth there is quite a change in volume, however if you select the new default setting and rotate the width control all the settings are the same volume. What seems to happen is that now the 50/100 Hz bandwidths jump in volume with the original IIR on setting, this didn't happen on the earlier software. Any thoughts Lyle? 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 I loaded new wares 1.58 and 1.48. From Elecraft page this change was e.g. for 100 and 50Hz DSP-filters. My experience is, that both filter outputs were now considerably attenuated. Apparently I should install the old ones, which is not recommended. Anybody else have noticed a change? Benny OH9NB ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K1 Tilt Stand Bolt Size
Thanks to the list, I've found just the right thumbscrew. Here is a link to the details: http://webpages.charter.net/crstrode/k1nuts.htm http://www.nabble.com/file/p14766469/k1nuts1.jpg http://www.nabble.com/file/p14766469/k1nuts2.jpg -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K1-Tilt-Stand-Bolt-Size-tp14762742p14766469.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3, Ham Radio Deluxe, DM780
Hello, K3 working now with audio and HRD over my LAN. So far, so good, but Digital Master 780 won't connect. Getting same error message whether I'm at the radio end or the remote end: Start DM780, select to configure radio, use the defaults (localhost, 7809, ckbox). Error says no connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it. Sometimes I see an error msg saying to be sure the K3 is on (it is) and not in memory mode. (What's that?) Perhaps that plays into the solution somehow? Ideas? Alan Alan D. Wilcox, W3DVX 570-321-1516 http://WilcoxEngineering.com Williamsport, PA 17701 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT: Asus Eee PC Ham Radio Users forum
Following my mention of the Asus Eee PC in a couple of earlier posts several people have emailed me directly about it and one or two may even have bought one as a result, so I have set up the Asus Eee PC Ham Radio Users forum to discuss specifically issues related to using this small Linux based PC for radio applications. Link: http://www.zerobeat.net/smf/index.php/board,24.0.html I am not a Linux expert but hopefully the forum will provide a place to pool information from all those trying to get radio applications to work on this computer, though it may be a bit like the blind leading the blind. If any Linux experts would like to join then their expertise will be especially welcomed. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/OT%3A-Asus-Eee-PC-Ham-Radio-Users-forum-tp14768065p14768065.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] OT - Patience, Perspective, and a Wandering Mind
I joined this list because I was contemplating purchasing a K2. I have since purchased the radio, and had more fun building it than I expected. I now have a great radio that I can fix, that I am proud of, and that is considered a standard. A standard, developed by an amazing group of people, and built by their customers. A standard which drew many current users to the list. Because of the amazing people that populate this list, I stayed, even after I had finished the rig. I marvel at the knowledge and discussions and history and experience that is here everyday, waiting for me to read. At that time the list was populated by those who had built the rigs, or were going to build them. They continue to share their experiences, their knowledge, their laughs, and their smiles. It isn't about them, it is about helping others experience what they have. If they did not have patience when they started the project, they learned about it before they were done. Many on this list have served their respective countries in admirable ways. Many have experienced life away from family and friends. A life that benefits the greater good. Many know what it is like to do their part, with little or no news and no idea what the big picture is. They know what it is like to wake up, having been dreaming about their family, only to find themselves in the dark, far from home and the ones they love. They do their part, one day at a time, and look forward to the time when they will return to home and hearth. If they did not have patience when they started to serve, they learned about it before it was over. My youngest son had the opportunity to attend a local public kindergarten. Many of the students had special needs. My son is used to this as my wife was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis while I was deployed for Desert Shield, and Desert Storm with the USAF. We have been married 21 years, and dealing with the disease for 16 years. She is now in a wheelchair. Thus, it was I that drove my son to school each day. Each day I had a chance to witness young children getting off of handicapped buses. They used wheelchairs and walkers. They did not know what life had in store for them, but they came through those doors in the morning with big smiles on their faces. Happy to once again be with their friends and to learn new things. These young people had patience in bulk. I learned about the K3, a few days after it was announced. I was not following the list as closely then. The radio was announced on the 27th of April, and my father passed away on the 28th. He had a great day. Many friends and family had a chance to visit, he was lively and enjoyed the day. He passed that night in his sleep. My parents had been married 64 years, and my mom is now in her early 80s and dealing with a world from a new perspective. As am I. On what would have been my father's 84 birthday, Nov. 11, 2007 (I was 12 years old before I found out they were not putting the flags out for his birthday), I ordered my K3. On January 28, 2008, my 47th birthday, my oldest son leaves for USMC boot camp, at Parris Island. He will learn a thing or two about patience. Semper Fi My point, as others have made, is to keep perspective. Learn something new everyday, share it with others that they may learn. Let those that count, know you care. Leave the world a little better as a result. Take care, and have a great day. 73 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Re: CW-to-RTTY with message buffers: are spaces there?
I missed some of this discussion, so I may be off track here. But I think I know what Vic means. Some message memories record in real time--you leave a long space, and it shows up in your memory the same way. But the K3 seems to be tied to a rather precise gap between letters or words. Actually, this kind of method will help point out flaws in the way a person sends. Some time back I was trying to record a CQ message in a keyer memory, and I discovered I had developed a tendency to leave a bit too much space between my next-to-last call letter and the last letter. I was sending W7AQK as W7AQ K. I probably did it for years! It was also possibly one of the reasons so many people came back to me as W7AQ, thinking I had sent the K as an invitation to transmit. In contests, etc., they weren't even waiting for the second K at the end. Now that I've been paying more intention (and it hasn't been easy getting out of that habit), I don't seem to get as many incorrect responses. The message buffers in the K3 are pretty large, so they make a pretty good recording device for recording yourself and checking on your sending technique. I know this method is kind of a pain in the butt for a lot of us, but I really like it if my messages come out like machine code. I'm not sure other methods would do this as effectively. Another thing I've been playing with a bit is sending CW and letting the K3 convert it to RTTY. If you don't move right along, with proper spacing, you get a bunch of extra garbage between characters. Being able to send RTTY without a computer is sort of a gee whiz feature, but it's been fun playing with it. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Vic K2VCO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom Hammond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 3:12 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Re: CW-to-RTTY with message buffers: are spaces there? Tom Hammond wrote: One way to handle this would be to use 1/4 letter space as the basic spacing element. Then recording, decoding, and playback would be closer to real-time. Can you 'splain this a bit better Vic? Never heard of this method of timing... always worked on the baud method. First I have to reverse-engineer Wayne's code! The firmware now listens to the spaces between characters as you send. If the space is less than some fixed threshold it assumes that it is a letter space; if more, a word space. When it records what you have sent, it puts in a token that indicates either a word space or a letter space is needed. During playback, when it comes to a letter-space token it waits for the appropriate time (whatever that is); when it comes to a word-space token it waits longer. This means that while you are recording, if you wait a little bit past the threshold that it uses to decide what size space it is, it will put in a word space token. So when I send my call K 2VCO, I get K 2VCO. My suggestion is that instead of just two possibilities for spacing, there should be more. This could be implemented by creating tokens for smaller spaces, like 1/4 of a letter space. That would sound almost like a real-time recording, in terms of preserving the spacing as sent. But even using units of half of a letter space would avoid the difficulty that those of us who do not send like tape machines have when recording messages! -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K1: Potential new product
If a really low power DSP could be made for the K1 and/or KX1 - say, one that consumes 10 to 15 mA from a nominal 6V supply, less from a higher voltage - which features would you be seeking? Selectable bandpass filters? Auonotch? Denoiser? From a theoretical point of view, denoiser and bandpass filters. Autonotch is of limited value with CW and these are CW radios. Which would you be wiling to give up? The give up is probably absolute minimum power consumption. From a practical point of view, giving up some degree of flexibility - perhaps a limited number of bandpass filters and a fixed (in set-up) center frequency - would probably be acceptable. With DSP it might also be reasonable to give up some degree of performance (ultimate rejection) in the crystal filters as they would be similar in function to the roofing filter in the K3. 73, ... Joe, W4TV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lyle Johnson Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:33 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K1: Potential new product If a really low power DSP could be made for the K1 and/or KX1 - say, one that consumes 10 to 15 mA from a nominal 6V supply, less from a higher voltage - which features would you be seeking? Selectable bandpass filters? Auonotch? Denoiser? Which would you be wiling to give up? No, there is no project like this in the works, but I tend to think about DSP... Thanks! Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] DSP for KX1 and K1
The nature of the KX1 (and the K1, hope to build one of those soon) would argue for a very low power, simple DSP. Since they are CW only rigs, Autonotch doesn't make sense to me (wouldn't it attack the CW note you are trying to hear?). Also, the KX1 built in crystal variable filter works FB for me. So, I think my preference would be a denoiser only - I'm sure you could fit that in the K1, maybe in a KX1. 73, Bill K4DXU KX1 # 702 K2 # 5540 K3 # 00175 Lyle Johnson wrote: If a really low power DSP could be made for the K1 and/or KX1 - say, one that consumes 10 to 15 mA from a nominal 6V supply, less from a higher voltage - which features would you be seeking? Selectable bandpass filters? Auonotch? Denoiser? Which would you be wiling to give up? No, there is no project like this in the works, but I tend to think about DSP... Thanks! Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Firmware Update
Do I need to make note of this for when the K3 comes so I can try both ways, or will it be included in a new version of the K3 operators manual? Or maybe there is a master list of all K3 firmware revisions since the beginning of time and they are all documented as completely as the text below? t u NEW 100- AND 50-Hz DSP FILTERS: We've completed the addition of high-performance 100- and 50-Hz FIR (finite impulse response) DSP filters. These are flatter than the original IIR (infinite impulse response) filters, and exhibit less ringing, which is especially noticeable in the presence of high noise. Some operators may prefer the original filters, which have a slightly different sound. To switch between IIR (old) and FIR (new), tap '7' on the keypad when you're in any filter setup menu entry (e.g., CONFIG:FLx BW). To use the FIR (new) filters, tap '7' until you see IIR OFF. This is now the default for newly-shipped K3s. -- [Elecraft] K3 Firmware Update wayne burdick n6kr at elecraft.com Fri Jan 11 12:56:35 EST 2008 We've released a new revision of K3 firmware (both MCU and DSP). Please see the release notes below. There's also a new revision of the K3 Utility program. Let me know if you have any questions. 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 1.58 and DSP 1.48, 1-9-08 NEW 100- AND 50-Hz DSP FILTERS: We've completed the addition of high-performance 100- and 50-Hz FIR (finite impulse response) DSP filters. These are flatter than the original IIR (infinite impulse response) filters, and exhibit less ringing, which is especially noticeable in the presence of high noise. Some operators may prefer the original filters, which have a slightly different sound. To switch between IIR (old) and FIR (new), tap '7' on the keypad when you're in any filter setup menu entry (e.g., CONFIG:FLx BW). To use the FIR (new) filters, tap '7' until you see IIR OFF. This is now the default for newly-shipped K3s. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 new firmware release 1.58
GREAT SCOTT !!! the new version of the narrow filter; at the noise floor the filter is half the width it was before as seen in spectrogram. Not only that, the top of this new filter, even at 50 cycles wide, is FLAT topped. I imagine that is why it doesn't ring, and it doesn't. I listened to a signal that was 25 DB over nine, coming from the whistle clean K3 of W7QC, and then of an S-1 DX station, which once tuned in seemed S-9, both were essentially without ringing. 73, FD - kt5x K2 # 0700 K3 # 0144 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Operating Tip: How to do RIT (sortof) with the BIG knob
For those who would like to use the large VFO A knob as if it were RIT, there's a setup just for you. Once you have your base frequency (or RUN frequency in a contest) TAP AB to send the VFO A frequency to VFO B. Then place the K3 into SPLIT mode. Your TX frequency will not change, but now you can tune your RX frequency with the VFO A knob to tune in those stations calling who are slightly off frequency. In the CONFIG menu there's also a BA function that you can assign to one of the programable buttons. This feature allows you to pick up your TX frequency from VFO B to match your RX frequency on VFO A. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 new firmware release 1.58
Stop it! You're making me drool all over my keyboard! Bill W5WVO K3 in Febr... uh, Mar... uh, April, maybe... cloud runner wrote: GREAT SCOTT !!! the new version of the narrow filter; at the noise floor the filter is half the width it was before as seen in spectrogram. Not only that, the top of this new filter, even at 50 cycles wide, is FLAT topped. I imagine that is why it doesn't ring, and it doesn't. I listened to a signal that was 25 DB over nine, coming from the whistle clean K3 of W7QC, and then of an S-1 DX station, which once tuned in seemed S-9, both were essentially without ringing. 73, FD - kt5x K2 # 0700 K3 # 0144 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 Operating Tip: How to do RIT (sortof) with the BIGknob
That's just how the K2 works too. I run split 100% of the time and almost never touch RIT with either the K2 or K3. For those of us who cut our teeth in Ham radio on separate transmitters and receivers, it works just like they did. 1) Tune around and find the frequency you want to transmit on. It might be someone calling CQ or a clear spot to make a call. 2) Hit A B to load the frequency you've selected by tuning around into VFO B. VFO B sets the xmit frequency, just like when we set our Tx VFO on the Rx frequency, only a lot faster. Now you can continue to tune around with the big knob, but whenever you xmit it'll be on the previously selected frequency in VFO B. At any time you want to move the TX freq to the one you're listening to, just tap AB again. If you're working a pileup or other situation where I am listening and transmitting on different frequencies, pushing REV allows me to peek at my xmit frequency to make sure it's still clear. (Of course that'll be even easier when the Subreceiver is available!) For me it's not like doing sort of RIT with the big knob, it makes RIT unnecessary. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- For those who would like to use the large VFO A knob as if it were RIT, there's a setup just for you. Once you have your base frequency (or RUN frequency in a contest) TAP AB to send the VFO A frequency to VFO B. Then place the K3 into SPLIT mode. Your TX frequency will not change, but now you can tune your RX frequency with the VFO A knob to tune in those stations calling who are slightly off frequency. In the CONFIG menu there's also a BA function that you can assign to one of the programable buttons. This feature allows you to pick up your TX frequency from VFO B to match your RX frequency on VFO A. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com