[Elecraft] K3: 1/4 inch interconnect coax connectors?

2008-05-10 Thread Craig
Anyone know  the exact name for the coax connectors 
used on the  K3s various coax  cable interconnects?
They are described  as the TMP cables with connectors
in the assembly manual. I just need to get hold of one
of these connectors for the KREF3 board frequency
counter calibration procedure. 

Craig



  

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[Elecraft] Stupid question #1

2008-05-10 Thread Mike Kasrich

I will number them since Im sure there will be more than one.

In the low power Tx calibration procedure.  You go band to band and set 
the power to 5w and push the various buttons in sequence.


Questiononce you have xmit to the dummy load do you move the 
power control so the reading is exactly 5w or do you leave the power 
control alone since this is for calibration only?  I note that the power 
varies from band to band (5w on 160 to 3.5w on 6m) so if the radio is 
supposed to know where the power level for 5w is then I need to move the 
pot a bit each band.


Mike/aj9c

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[Elecraft] of course stupid question #1

2008-05-10 Thread Mike Kasrich

was for the K-3

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[Elecraft] K3 Variable amp keying delay not long enough!!??

2008-05-10 Thread ni0c
The ubiquitous Ameritron non-QSK amplifiers
use open frame relays that (according to the 
instruction manuals) take approximately 15 ms
to change states.  I've been switching my AL-80B
with a PTT signal generated by a microHam CW 
Keyer, with the PTT lead time set for 18-20 ms. 

It seems to me the 20 ms maximum delay for
the K3 was a pretty good choice.

73,
Chuck Guenther  NI0C

K2/10 s/n 5853
K3/100 coming soon
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Re: [Elecraft] Stupid question #1

2008-05-10 Thread Ken K3IU

G'morning Mike:

For the Transmitter Gain procedure on page 46 of the Owner's Manual, set 
the power control to exactly 5.0 watts,  press TUNE. Do NOT readjust the 
power control. Just do each step of the procedure in the manual on all 
bands.


73,
Ken K3IU


Mike Kasrich wrote:

I will number them since Im sure there will be more than one.

In the low power Tx calibration procedure.  You go band to band and 
set the power to 5w and push the various buttons in sequence.


Questiononce you have xmit to the dummy load do you move the 
power control so the reading is exactly 5w or do you leave the power 
control alone since this is for calibration only?  I note that the 
power varies from band to band (5w on 160 to 3.5w on 6m) so if the 
radio is supposed to know where the power level for 5w is then I need 
to move the pot a bit each band.


Mike/aj9c

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[Elecraft] Think About This

2008-05-10 Thread David Robertson
Hello Elecrafters.

Did you ever stop and think about what your doing when complaining about 
something with your K3. Here is a little company made up of very dedicated 
people who love ham radio and are successfully releasing one of the best rigs 
ever.This company stands poised to try to satisfy all their customers demands. 

Here we are, in some ways, taking advantage of this company by complaining 
about not being able to operate a linear with a 110 volt AC switching voltage 
for keying! What do you want the Elecraft people to do, stand on their head.
I have never seen an equipment vendor provide as much customer support that 
Elecraft does.

There are limits and we are Radio Amateurs. We are suppose to be able to either 
perform some simple modifications or have a friend help you. I fully appreciate 
the fact that some of us are not technically endowed but the vendor cannot be 
responsible for every situation.  When a vendor puts out a specification, he is 
only legally responsible to that spec. Elecraft had long since past this goal.

If you buy an ICOM product and complain about their linear keying delay guess 
what, you live with it.

All I am saying is appreciate what a good thing you have here when dealing with 
Elecraft. Don't abuse it. 

73

Dave KD1NA 
Proud owner of 2 K2s and soon a K3
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Re: [Elecraft] Think About This

2008-05-10 Thread S Sacco
U.Dave

Last I checked, Elecraft was in business to make a profit, and while
chatting with Eric at the Orlando Hamcation this year, he mentioned
that they were, in fact, profitable, with no debt.  These are good
things!They should make a profit for their efforts.

However, they experienced business people, and Elecraft is not the
first business they've run.  They are in fact in control of the means
of production - including firmware updates, and can chose where to
draw the lines in the sand (I hate that cliche) with respect to what
work item they schedule for action.

Nobody's taking advantage of them.

Actually, I could argue the exact opposite: if anyone's been taking
advantage, it's Elecraft of their customers.  See Long Wait Times,
Free Loans (aka Deposits), Immature Firmware, and Missing
Advertised (STILL!) Functionality After One Year On The Market.

'Nuff said.

I'm going to put on my climbing harness, and go do some antenna work.
It's going to be 95F down here in Florida today - just right for
hanging off a 140' tower.  ;-)


73,
Steve NN4X


On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:59 AM, David Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Elecrafters.

 Did you ever stop and think about what your doing when complaining about 
 something with your K3. Here is a little company made up of very dedicated 
 people who love ham radio and are successfully releasing one of the best rigs 
 ever.This company stands poised to try to satisfy all their customers demands.

 Here we are, in some ways, taking advantage of this company by complaining 
 about not being able to operate a linear with a 110 volt AC switching voltage 
 for keying! What do you want the Elecraft people to do, stand on their head.
 I have never seen an equipment vendor provide as much customer support that 
 Elecraft does.

 There are limits and we are Radio Amateurs. We are suppose to be able to 
 either perform some simple modifications or have a friend help you. I fully 
 appreciate the fact that some of us are not technically endowed but the 
 vendor cannot be responsible for every situation.  When a vendor puts out a 
 specification, he is only legally responsible to that spec. Elecraft had long 
 since past this goal.

 If you buy an ICOM product and complain about their linear keying delay guess 
 what, you live with it.

 All I am saying is appreciate what a good thing you have here when dealing 
 with Elecraft. Don't abuse it.

 73

 Dave KD1NA
 Proud owner of 2 K2s and soon a K3
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[Elecraft] OT: FL-2100Z input SWR

2008-05-10 Thread David Walker

Hi folks,

I have decided to try you guys on this reflector for help as a last DIY 
resort.


I have an FL-2100Z and it has relatively high SWR on 80, 40, and 20 
meter bands of around 1.9 to 2.0.  Does anyone having insight in how to 
adjust this?


Regards,

Dave
VK2NA
K2/100 SN: 3222
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Re: [Elecraft] Think About This

2008-05-10 Thread R. Kevin Stover

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Exactly David.

Name another modern Ham Radio transceiver that will switch 120V AC
relays in an amp WITHOUT using a low DC relay.

Maybe it's just the way email comes across but the tone around here has
been getting a little demanding for lack of a better term.

I see suggestions like my  does it this way, why did Elecraft do
it that way, please change it back to this way. Simple solution, if
your  does it the way you think it should be done by all means use
your .

Aye, but there's the rub, your  is deaf as a post compared to the K3.

I had to chuckle during the AM wars. Doesn't anybody else think it's
just slightly ridiculous trying to make an 8 pound, solid state, SDR
transceiver sound like a 250lb Globe King 500C while on AM?
Sit back and ponder that.

There also seems to be a large number of firmware programming
specialists on this reflector. As I'm typing this there are about 30 or
so messages in my K3 folder. I guarantee one of them will contain the
words should be an easy thing to do in firmware.

NO! If it was an easy thing to do everybody would be doing it. BTW, why
haven't some of these experts started their own radio companies?

Seems to me they're like most Ham Radio clubs. Someone will stand up
with a great idea, everybody is in favor of it, best thing since sliced
bread, this will change ham radio forever type stuff.
When it comes time to actually do real work on the project the noise
from the crickets chirping is deafening. Nary a soul to be found.

Elecraft should concentrate on making the K3 the best they can and how
they envisioned it. It's quickly turning into a horse designed by
committee.




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Re: [Elecraft] Think About This

2008-05-10 Thread Peter G3MLO

Hello Dave I could not agree more, I have monitored this debate and as
pointed out by
more that one contributer there are ways around it just let Elecraft get on
with what
they do best..Peter G3MLO.

David Robertson-6 wrote:
 
 Hello Elecrafters.
 
 Did you ever stop and think about what your doing when complaining about
 something with your K3. Here is a little company made up of very dedicated
 people who love ham radio and are successfully releasing one of the best
 rigs ever.This company stands poised to try to satisfy all their customers
 demands. 
 
 Here we are, in some ways, taking advantage of this company by complaining
 about not being able to operate a linear with a 110 volt AC switching
 voltage for keying! What do you want the Elecraft people to do, stand on
 their head.
 I have never seen an equipment vendor provide as much customer support
 that Elecraft does.
 
 There are limits and we are Radio Amateurs. We are suppose to be able to
 either perform some simple modifications or have a friend help you. I
 fully appreciate the fact that some of us are not technically endowed but
 the vendor cannot be responsible for every situation.  When a vendor puts
 out a specification, he is only legally responsible to that spec. Elecraft
 had long since past this goal.
 
 If you buy an ICOM product and complain about their linear keying delay
 guess what, you live with it.
 
 All I am saying is appreciate what a good thing you have here when dealing
 with Elecraft. Don't abuse it. 
 
 73
 
 Dave KD1NA 
 Proud owner of 2 K2s and soon a K3
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[Elecraft] 100w amp plate

2008-05-10 Thread Mike Kasrich
Has anyone else received an amp plate that was cut backwards?  The pixs 
show the plate with fans attached with the lead fed through the upper 
right.  I cant orient the slots with the finished side out  with the 
plate that came with the kit. in that direction.


Just curious.  Up until this point the build and Calibration was going 
smooth now Im at a stand still.


Mike/aj9c

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Re: [Elecraft] Think About This

2008-05-10 Thread AD6XY - Mike

When will you guys shut up trying to tell everyone else what to think? 

We all know your views are the correct ones - just stop reminding us.
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RE: [Elecraft] K3: 1/4 inch interconnect coax connectors?

2008-05-10 Thread Gary Hvizdak
At 04:06:48 EDT on Sat 10 May 2008, Craig Dickson (VK3HE) wrote ...

Anyone know  the exact name for the coax connectors used on the K3s various 
coax  cable interconnects? ...

--

Hi Craig,

I don't yet have my K3 so I can only guess, but they look like SMA 
connectors.  See, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMA_connector 

73,
Gary  KI4GGX

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: FL-2100Z input SWR

2008-05-10 Thread Don Wilhelm

Dave,

That amp has a tuned input circuit.  It may need some tuning or re-design.
The FL-2100 was designed to be 'good enough' to be driven with the 
vacuum tube exciters of similar vintage.  Most of those exciters could 
be tuned to tolerate a 3:1 or even greater SWR, so there was no need to 
design the amp input circuit to be close to 50 ohms resistive.  As a 
result, some re-design or tweaking of the input components should make 
it usable with solid state transceivers.


73,
Don W3FPR

David Walker wrote:

Hi folks,

I have decided to try you guys on this reflector for help as a last 
DIY resort.


I have an FL-2100Z and it has relatively high SWR on 80, 40, and 20 
meter bands of around 1.9 to 2.0.  Does anyone having insight in how 
to adjust this?
  

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Re: [Elecraft] Katiegram

2008-05-10 Thread nz0t

It looks like the wait is getting shorter - down below 5 months now.  maybe I
will get my K3 ordered in April by August!

wa3fae wrote:
 
 Ah, slip of the fingers, 
 
 Ordered 19 Dec 2007.
 
 Sorry.
 
 Forrest WA3FAE 
 
 
 wa3fae wrote:
 
 I received my Katiegram.
 
 Ordered 29 Dec 2007
 Katiegram 9 May 2008
 
 Forrest WA3FAE
 
 
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: 1/4 inch interconnect coax connectors?

2008-05-10 Thread Bob Cunnings
Uh, no, they are TMP connectors:

http://www.spectrum-component.com/Vendors/Taiko_Denki/29tmp-S.pdf

See the parts listing in the K3 Kit Assembly Manual

Bob NW8L

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Gary Hvizdak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 04:06:48 EDT on Sat 10 May 2008, Craig Dickson (VK3HE) wrote ...

 Anyone know  the exact name for the coax connectors used on the K3s various
 coax  cable interconnects? ...

 --

 Hi Craig,

I don't yet have my K3 so I can only guess, but they look like SMA
 connectors.  See, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMA_connector

 73,
 Gary  KI4GGX

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: 1/4 inch interconnect coax connectors?

2008-05-10 Thread wayne burdick

Yup, that's what they are.

Craig: contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll send you one, no charge.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

Bob Cunnings wrote:


they are TMP connectors:

http://www.spectrum-component.com/Vendors/Taiko_Denki/29tmp-S.pdf



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[Elecraft] K3 - Assembly Issue - U12 Test

2008-05-10 Thread Joe Word
My resistance test (page 39) on U12 is less than the 500 ohms per
manual. It is 350 to 400 ohmn (different scales on digital meter). My
analog meter shows 270 ohms.

Anyone else had this issue?

I emailed support, but thought I would check here also.

K3  S/N 841

Joe  N9VX
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Re: [Elecraft] 100w amp plate

2008-05-10 Thread Ken K3IU

Hi again, Mike:

I didn't notice that there was a finished side and an unfinished side on 
the fan panel if that is what you mean by Amp Plate. Both sides were 
about the same as I recall. Can you install it per the manual with what 
you call the finished side perhaps facing a direction other than what 
you tried??? If so, then you can press on with the installation and if 
you have defective paint on the fan panel, I'm sure that Elecraft will 
send you a replacement.


73,
Ken K3IU
~
Mike Kasrich wrote:
Has anyone else received an amp plate that was cut backwards?  The 
pixs show the plate with fans attached with the lead fed through the 
upper right.  I cant orient the slots with the finished side out  with 
the plate that came with the kit. in that direction.


Just curious.  Up until this point the build and Calibration was going 
smooth now Im at a stand still.


Mike/aj9c

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[Elecraft] K3 and Winlog32

2008-05-10 Thread john petters

Hi folks,
I've just tried to get the K3 to work with Winlog32, set up as a TS570 
as per the K2. The programme controls the bands / modes but the transmit 
is permanently on. Any ides?

73
John G3YPZ
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[Elecraft] Fwd: K3 - Assembly Issue - U12 Test

2008-05-10 Thread Joe Word
Found problem meter problem... OK now.

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Date: May 10, 2008 9:55 AM
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My resistance test (page 39) on U12 is less than the 500 ohms per
manual. It is 350 to 400 ohmn (different scales on digital meter). My
analog meter shows 270 ohms.

Anyone else had this issue?

I emailed support, but thought I would check here also.

K3  S/N 841

Joe  N9VX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Assembly Issue - U12 Test

2008-05-10 Thread Ken K3IU
Mine measured  either 6K or 60K ohms (can't read my own scribbling) 
according to a marginal note in the assembly manual.

73,
Ken K3IU
K3 #202
~
Joe Word wrote:

My resistance test (page 39) on U12 is less than the 500 ohms per
manual. It is 350 to 400 ohmn (different scales on digital meter). My
analog meter shows 270 ohms.

Anyone else had this issue?

I emailed support, but thought I would check here also.

K3  S/N 841

Joe  N9VX
  

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RE: [Elecraft] OT: FL-2100Z input SWR

2008-05-10 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
David,

I had a fl2100z for years and just sold it a few weeks ago to make room
for a K3.

As Don said, the input is fixed but there is another thing that gives
you the higher SWR: feedback form the tuned anode circuit. There is a
neutrodynisation capacitor for that. It is supposed to neutralize the
feedback.
In your case, you'll probably see the SWR going up and down when you
tune the Amp. The capacitor is not properly set then.

The neutralizing capacitor must be set that there is little change in
SWR when you tune. 


For the rest: use the auto tune of the transceiver. Done that for years
and worked fb.

73 Arie PA3A



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens David Walker
Verzonden: zaterdag 10 mei 2008 15:03
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Onderwerp: [Elecraft] OT: FL-2100Z input SWR


Hi folks,

I have decided to try you guys on this reflector for help as a last DIY 
resort.

I have an FL-2100Z and it has relatively high SWR on 80, 40, and 20 
meter bands of around 1.9 to 2.0.  Does anyone having insight in how to 
adjust this?

Regards,

Dave
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K2/100 SN: 3222
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[Elecraft] Think About This - OT

2008-05-10 Thread Don Rasmussen
Time flies like an arrow...

Fruit flies like a banana. 





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[Elecraft] K3 and Winlog32

2008-05-10 Thread Dave, G4AON

Hello John

I have mine set as a K2 and it works perfectly with my K3...

73 Dave, G4AON/P (out on local hill on 6m 50.150)
K3/100 #80
-
Hi folks,
I've just tried to get the K3 to work with Winlog32, set up as a TS570
as per the K2. The programme controls the bands / modes but the transmit
is permanently on. Any ides?
73
John G3YPZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - A complete BAND SWITCHING scheme using 33 memories

2008-05-10 Thread K4IA
It would be really sweet if the K3 Utility  program had a way to set up 
memories on the computer and download them to the  K3.


k4ia
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - A complete BAND SWITCHING scheme using 33 memories

2008-05-10 Thread n4lq
That is a wonderful concept. Doesn't the Pegasus/Jupiter and Flex have such 
a feature?


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It would be really sweet if the K3 Utility  program had a way to set up
memories on the computer and download them to the  K3.


k4ia
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[Elecraft] Power output measurement

2008-05-10 Thread Paul G4LNA

I've seen lots of posts regarding measuring output power. The technique I've
used for years is simple and effective, all it requires is an oscilloscope.
It doesn't have to be a top of the range high frequency instrument either,
provided the DC scale is reasonably accurate virtually any scope will do,
all that is required is to build a very simple diode probe and use a
calculator to work out what the power is across a 50 Ohm load.

Have a look at this site from Adam Farson, VA7OJ/AB4OJ, Fig 3 shows the
simple diode probe connected to a digital multimeter (DMM), in place of the
DMM use the scope.

http://www.ab4oj.com/pwrmeas.html

If you are measuring higher power levels use the 10:1 attenuator as in Fig
2.

Just speak into the mic and watch the peaks, it's far more accurate than any
meter can possibly be and far cheaper, there are plenty of surplus scopes
for sale.

Once you've used an oscilloscope you wonder how on earth you managed without
one ;-)

73 Paul G4LNA.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - A complete BAND SWITCHING scheme using 33 memories

2008-05-10 Thread Bill W5WVO
Don't know, but I do know the Kenwood TS-2000 does. Very handy. (Too bad it's 
such a crappy radio in strong-signal environments!)


Bill W5WVO


n4lq wrote:

That is a wonderful concept. Doesn't the Pegasus/Jupiter and Flex
have such a feature?

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It would be really sweet if the K3 Utility  program had a way to set
up memories on the computer and download them to the  K3.


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[Elecraft] Fan Panel Flipped???

2008-05-10 Thread Dick Roth KA1OZ
I think I might have brushed on past a comment for another Elecrafter 
that the fan panel may be flipped (crackle finish side inside).  I think 
he's right.  It looks like the wrong side was up when the panels were 
stamped.


Am I correct?


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K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - A complete BAND SWITCHING scheme using 33 memories

2008-05-10 Thread KM5Q
Back to the subject -- I've received 6 thank-you notes so far for the  
band switching scheme I described. I relay the thanks to Douglas, Rick  
and others who initiated this.


I welcome feedback or suggestions from users, on or off-list. I may  
then write a revised how-to document.


When the K3 Utility (or other system) provides computer download to  
the radio's memories, we'll have a fine management tool. Meanwhile,  
just use the radio's entry system. You'll get good at it. It's really  
only 23 memories. My mistake -- it's #10-33 (plus optional duplication  
onto the quick buttons).


Enjoy!
Windy KM5Q
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Re: [Elecraft] Fan Panel Flipped???

2008-05-10 Thread Mike Kasrich
Thats what I meant the side facing out has machining marks around the 
various screw holes.  The side facing inside has no such marks. The side 
facing inside is milled for the flat head screws so that is the side 
that was intended to be on the inside I guess.


I just fogured the cleaner side would face out.

Mike/aj9c

Mike/aj9c

Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:

I think I might have brushed on past a comment for another Elecrafter 
that the fan panel may be flipped (crackle finish side inside).  I 
think he's right.  It looks like the wrong side was up when the panels 
were stamped.


Am I correct?





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Re: [Elecraft] OT: FL-2100Z input SWR

2008-05-10 Thread Jim Wiley
Push the automatic tune button on the antenna coupler part of your 
transceiver - or whatever you have that performs that function.  It will 
match your exciter to the amplifier in a jiffy.  Much easier than 
fiddling around with amplifier adjustments.



- Jim, KL7CC



David Walker wrote:

Hi folks,

I have decided to try you guys on this reflector for help as a last 
DIY resort.


I have an FL-2100Z and it has relatively high SWR on 80, 40, and 20 
meter bands of around 1.9 to 2.0.  Does anyone having insight in how 
to adjust this?


Regards,

Dave
VK2NA
K2/100 SN: 3222
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[Elecraft] Re: Think About This - OT

2008-05-10 Thread Dave G.
To paraphrase Kermit the frog...

Isn't time fun when you're having flies??

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - A complete BAND SWITCHING scheme using 33 memories

2008-05-10 Thread Don Wilhelm

Steve,

If something like that is offered as a feature, then it is likely fixed 
in place.


Consider that Elecraft has offered the capability to do the same thing, 
and you can set it up the way YOU want instead of having to live with 
what the manufacturer thought you might like.


73,
Don W3FPR

n4lq wrote:
That is a wonderful concept. Doesn't the Pegasus/Jupiter and Flex have 
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[Elecraft] K3 S?N 868

2008-05-10 Thread Roger
Group,
   My second K3 S/N 868 is on the air!  Ordered Dec 2,2007, arrived May 
8,2008 at 5:30 PM. Built on Friday and this morning, calibrated and de-bugged 
this afternoon.
   Roger K8RS K2 S/N 3478
  K3 S/N 280
  K3 S/N 868
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RE: [Elecraft] Fan Panel Flipped???

2008-05-10 Thread Evert Bakker (PA2KW)
Dick,

You are is correct!
I had (still have) the same flipped Fan panel.
I'm glad it's the back-side

73's, Evert PA2KW  

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Subject: [Elecraft] Fan Panel Flipped???

I think I might have brushed on past a comment for another Elecrafter 
that the fan panel may be flipped (crackle finish side inside).  I think 
he's right.  It looks like the wrong side was up when the panels were 
stamped.

Am I correct?


-- 
73,
Dick ka1oz
Middleborough, MA

K3/100(Kit) SN 000859
Titan-DX (to come)
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Re: [Elecraft] Fan Panel Flipped???

2008-05-10 Thread WA6OCP

I installed a KPA3 yesterday and noticed the same thing.  The final finish
is on the side with the countersunk screw holes.  I figured that the
difference
in finish between the two sides was subtle and that I wouldn't pay any
attention
to it once the fans were in place and on the back of the rig.
Besides, I dislike getting to the back of my K3 anyway - too many cables. 
hi hi

Neal WA6OCP


Dick Roth KA1OZ wrote:
 
 I think I might have brushed on past a comment for another Elecrafter 
 that the fan panel may be flipped (crackle finish side inside).  I think 
 he's right.  It looks like the wrong side was up when the panels were 
 stamped.
 
 Am I correct?
 
 
 -- 
 73,
 Dick ka1oz
 Middleborough, MA
 
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[Elecraft] K3 ERR TXG message on most bands

2008-05-10 Thread Paul Ferguson
I have K3/100 #757 using firmware 1.88 MCU and 1.70 DSP.

When trying the Low-Power (5W) Transmitter Gain Calibration, it works on 80 and
20 meters, but on all other bands I get an ERR TXG message.

The Synthesizer Calibration and Reference Oscillator Calibration (using WWV
zero beat) run OK.

I have checked that I have my two filters (500 and 2.7) setup properly. I have
been thru the filter bandwidth, freq center, receive filter enables, and
transmit filter selections several times.

Any ideas what the problem might be?

73,
Paul
K5ESW


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - A complete BAND SWITCHING scheme using 33 memories

2008-05-10 Thread n4lq

Don
I was thinking  of an application similar to Kenwood's ARCP-480 as part of 
the K3 Utility. ARCP-480 provides PC access to all menu settings in the 
TS-480, allowing such things as custom filter configuration and memory 
entry. Once you have it configured on your screen, you just dump it into the 
480 and your're done.


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Steve,

If something like that is offered as a feature, then it is likely fixed
in place.

Consider that Elecraft has offered the capability to do the same thing,
and you can set it up the way YOU want instead of having to live with
what the manufacturer thought you might like.

73,
Don W3FPR

n4lq wrote:

That is a wonderful concept. Doesn't the Pegasus/Jupiter and Flex have
such a feature?








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RE: [Elecraft] K3 - A complete BAND SWITCHING scheme using 33 memories

2008-05-10 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 I was thinking  of an application similar to Kenwood's 
 ARCP-480 as part of the K3 Utility. ARCP-480 provides 
 PC access to all menu settings in the TS-480, allowing 
 such things as custom filter configuration and memory 
 entry.

Gee ... if the programming interface were changed to have 
the ID command return 020 instead of 017 it might be 
possible to use ARCP-480 with the K3 G.   I don't know 
if ACRCP requires the AS command (missing in K3). 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


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 using 33 memories
 
 
 Don
 I was thinking  of an application similar to Kenwood's 
 ARCP-480 as part of 
 the K3 Utility. ARCP-480 provides PC access to all menu 
 settings in the 
 TS-480, allowing such things as custom filter configuration 
 and memory 
 entry. Once you have it configured on your screen, you just 
 dump it into the 
 480 and your're done.
 
 Steve Ellington
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 using 33 
 memories
 
 
  Steve,
 
  If something like that is offered as a feature, then it is likely 
  fixed in place.
 
  Consider that Elecraft has offered the capability to do the same 
  thing, and you can set it up the way YOU want instead of having to 
  live with what the manufacturer thought you might like.
 
  73,
  Don W3FPR
 
  n4lq wrote:
  That is a wonderful concept. Doesn't the Pegasus/Jupiter and Flex 
  have such a feature?
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Fan Panel Flipped???

2008-05-10 Thread Bob K9PAG


My #818 has the same problem with the fan panel finish painted on the wrong
side.  One wonders if this is just a new batch of panels with the problem or
the problem has been there from the git go?

Bob K9PAG
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - A complete BAND SWITCHING scheme using 33 memories

2008-05-10 Thread n4lq

Dunno Joe but I just tried ARCP and it won't talk to the K3.
Steve Ellington
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I was thinking  of an application similar to Kenwood's
ARCP-480 as part of the K3 Utility. ARCP-480 provides
PC access to all menu settings in the TS-480, allowing
such things as custom filter configuration and memory
entry.


Gee ... if the programming interface were changed to have
the ID command return 020 instead of 017 it might be
possible to use ARCP-480 with the K3 G.   I don't know
if ACRCP requires the AS command (missing in K3).

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV




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Don
I was thinking  of an application similar to Kenwood's
ARCP-480 as part of
the K3 Utility. ARCP-480 provides PC access to all menu
settings in the
TS-480, allowing such things as custom filter configuration
and memory
entry. Once you have it configured on your screen, you just
dump it into the
480 and your're done.

Steve Ellington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Steve,

 If something like that is offered as a feature, then it is likely
 fixed in place.

 Consider that Elecraft has offered the capability to do the same
 thing, and you can set it up the way YOU want instead of having to
 live with what the manufacturer thought you might like.

 73,
 Don W3FPR

 n4lq wrote:
 That is a wonderful concept. Doesn't the Pegasus/Jupiter and Flex
 have such a feature?



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Re: [Elecraft] Fan Panel Flipped???

2008-05-10 Thread Mike Kasrich
Im sure come Monday Eric and company will read all this and take a 
looksee.  Im just glad Im not going nutz.  That was the longest part of 
the build trying to figure out how to get fan panel flipped.

mike

Bob K9PAG wrote:


My #818 has the same problem with the fan panel finish painted on the wrong
side.  One wonders if this is just a new batch of panels with the problem or
the problem has been there from the git go?

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Re: [Elecraft] Fan Panel Flipped???

2008-05-10 Thread AJSOENKE
My SN31 doesn't exhibit a noticeable difference between inner surface  finish 
and outer surface finish.
It is conceivable that a metal working shop might assume the surface with  
the flush screws faced the exterior for appearance sake, rather than the  
engineered aspects.
 
Al WA6VNN
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My #818 has the same problem with the fan panel  finish painted on the wrong
side.  One wonders if this is just a new  batch of panels with the problem or
the problem has been there from the git  go?

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[Elecraft] First EME QSO with K3

2008-05-10 Thread Alexandr Kobranov
Today S/N 727 performed first CW EME QSO on 23cm band (during Dubus 
EME Contest).
Used in transverter mode with 1,5mW output to DB6NT 2m and 23cm 
transverter chain.
Still learning, what was found that if I try to change something in 
XVx menus then when going out of menu there is mode change and frq 
change (more then offset, it jumped 250kc down if I remember). This 
can cause some problems if changes are made during standard operation 
(for example XVx OFS setting). No time to study this more. Maybe 
somebody else has some more experience and I am doing some stupid 
things here:-)
Compared to IC-910 used before there is advantage of variable bandwith 
and shift, also XIT setting is comfortable (for Doppler compensation). 
No discussion about TX noise and the others...
What is good on IC-910 it is ATT level settings (for 2m/70cm input) 
but it is not issue as I have some external 1 - 10dB attenutor to 
apply to RX channel from transvertor to my K3.


If you have any interesting experience with transverter mode let me 
know, thanks


73!
Lexa, OK1DST
K3 #727

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[Elecraft] K3 KPA3 not working(?)

2008-05-10 Thread John H Gibson
I am trying to put my new K3/100 SN 820 on the air for the first time, and I am 
having a power output problem. The KPA3 is installed, I hope correctly, but I 
cannot adjust the output power above 12 watts. The radio behaves as if the KPA3 
was not installed.

I do have CONFIG: PAIO set to NOR. (What does the TEST setting do?)

Can anyone suggest what I may have overlooked or done wrong?

Thank you.

73,
John, no8v

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA3 not working(?)

2008-05-10 Thread Gill W4RYW

John,

Go to the config KPA3 menu and keep on dialing past the KPIO stuff - Set PA
nor

Gill



John H Gibson wrote:
 
 I am trying to put my new K3/100 SN 820 on the air for the first time, and
 I am 
 having a power output problem. The KPA3 is installed, I hope correctly,
 but I 
 cannot adjust the output power above 12 watts. The radio behaves as if the
 KPA3 
 was not installed.
 
 I do have CONFIG: PAIO set to NOR. (What does the TEST setting do?)
 
 Can anyone suggest what I may have overlooked or done wrong?
 
 Thank you.
 
 73,
 John, no8v
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA3 not working(?)

2008-05-10 Thread David Wilburn
You may have to cycle power several times for the config changes to be 
picked up.  I had to do this with mine when I turned the KPA on in the 
config.



Dave Wilburn
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John H Gibson wrote:
I am trying to put my new K3/100 SN 820 on the air for the first time, and I am 
having a power output problem. The KPA3 is installed, I hope correctly, but I 
cannot adjust the output power above 12 watts. The radio behaves as if the KPA3 
was not installed.


I do have CONFIG: PAIO set to NOR. (What does the TEST setting do?)

Can anyone suggest what I may have overlooked or done wrong?

Thank you.

73,
John, no8v

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Re: [Elecraft] Fan Panel Flipped???

2008-05-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Likewise with the KPA3 option kit I recently received.  There is little 
difference in the texture of both sides.  The finish does have a slight 
crackle appearance to it, but it is very slight.


Does this really make a difference?  I assume the 'troublesome' one has 
a coat of finish on both sides (if not, I take that statement back and 
you should ask for a new plate).  If there is a bit more of a crackle 
finish on one side vs. the other side, I can't see if it would make any 
real difference, black is black, and I don't look that hard at the rear 
of my K3 nor the inside.


The paint shop likely just sprayed one side a bit longer than the other 
side, and I would think there is nothing more serious to it.


73,
Don W3FPR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My SN31 doesn't exhibit a noticeable difference between inner surface  finish 
and outer surface finish.
It is conceivable that a metal working shop might assume the surface with  
the flush screws faced the exterior for appearance sake, rather than the  
engineered aspects.
 
  


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA3 not working(?)

2008-05-10 Thread John H Gibson
Gill,

Good advice! That took care of the problem

Thank you.

73,
John, no8v

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Date: Sat, 10 May 2008 16:35:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gill W4RYW [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA3 not working(?)  
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John,

Go to the config KPA3 menu and keep on dialing past the KPIO stuff - Set PA
nor

Gill



John H Gibson wrote:
 
 I am trying to put my new K3/100 SN 820 on the air for the first time, and
 I am 
 having a power output problem. The KPA3 is installed, I hope correctly,
 but I 
 cannot adjust the output power above 12 watts. The radio behaves as if the
 KPA3 
 was not installed.
 
 I do have CONFIG: PAIO set to NOR. (What does the TEST setting do?)
 
 Can anyone suggest what I may have overlooked or done wrong?
 
 Thank you.
 
 73,
 John, no8v
 
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Re: [Elecraft] First EME QSO with K3

2008-05-10 Thread John Reiser

Congratulations Lexa!

 73,  John, W2GW


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From: Alexandr Kobranov [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2008 7:25 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] First EME QSO with K3


Today S/N 727 performed first CW EME QSO on 23cm band (during Dubus 
EME Contest).
Used in transverter mode with 1,5mW output to DB6NT 2m and 23cm 
transverter chain.
Still learning, what was found that if I try to change something in 
XVx menus then when going out of menu there is mode change and frq 
change (more then offset, it jumped 250kc down if I remember). This 
can cause some problems if changes are made during standard operation 
(for example XVx OFS setting). No time to study this more. Maybe 
somebody else has some more experience and I am doing some stupid 
things here:-)
Compared to IC-910 used before there is advantage of variable bandwith 
and shift, also XIT setting is comfortable (for Doppler compensation). 
No discussion about TX noise and the others...
What is good on IC-910 it is ATT level settings (for 2m/70cm input) 
but it is not issue as I have some external 1 - 10dB attenutor to 
apply to RX channel from transvertor to my K3.


If you have any interesting experience with transverter mode let me 
know, thanks


73!
Lexa, OK1DST
K3 #727

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[Elecraft] K3 cheap mic

2008-05-10 Thread n4lq
I have been testing a few mics today and several stations have gone out of 
their way to report how excellent this cheap headset sounds. In fact, one 
guy said it sounded better than a Heil PR40. I worked with a local ham to 
adjust the TX EQ. +3db of #5 and +6db of #6 were added and the CMP set at 
18.
I keep the headset plugged into the rear mic and headphone jack. In the 
menu, I set SPKR+PH to Yes. I'm using an amplified speaker system which has 
it's own volume control. When using the headset, I simply turn down the 
speake volume. I use a foot switch plugged into the PTT jack on the rear of 
the K3.

Note that these also have an in-line volume and mute control. Very handy!

Here's the link to Cyber Acoustics AC-400. $15
http://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Acoustics-AC-400-Stereo-Headset/dp/B6HR0L

I also found Them for $7 here:
http://www.wolfcamera.com/product/EP5142996.htm?utm_medium=productsearchutm_source=google


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[Elecraft] E00005 err vco sub

2008-05-10 Thread Ron Spencer
Trying to calibrate my newly finished K3. Downloaded newest firmware and can
calibrate the VCO for the primary VFO but fails the sub. 

Also zero output on 6. 

Firmware: 1.88
FPF .01
DSP1 1.70
DSP2 1.70

Can transmit and receive fine on main VFO (except of course for 6).

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Ron
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: One year and many thanks

2008-05-10 Thread Joe Stofko
Me too!  No, I was not at Dayton last year and, unfortunately,
won't make it this year either...   Like many... I based my 
decision to plunk down a deposit for a K3 on the superb reputation enjoyed
by Elecraft. But, unlike a lot of folks, I had never owned anything from
Elecraft before. Best decision I've ever made.

So... To Eric and Wayne... and Lyle and Lisa.. and everyone at Aptos.. field
testers, too. Thanks! I'd do it all again..
er, except for the waiting  !! :)

Joe - W1AIU 




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[Elecraft] K3 No Six Meters

2008-05-10 Thread Dave Agsten
I wanted to check out 6 meters tonight and could not get the K3 to sequence to 
that band. Direct freq entry of 50.125 went to 30.000Mhz. I thought 6 meters 
appeared previously, but with the band as it currently is, never paid much 
attention to it.

Murphy's Law - tonight is the 6 meter sprint contest with real sigs on the band 
and I can't figure out what's up. Any suggestions?? Am I missing something in 
the menu?

73,
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[Elecraft] settings list

2008-05-10 Thread Mike Kasrich
I thought I saw somewhere a list of settings that some folks had used 
with their K-3s for contesting etc..(EQ, agc, vox delay and the like).  
Isearch via google and didnt come up with anything.  Was I hallucinating 
or am I just bad a google searching?


Mike/aj9c

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[Elecraft] RE: Think about this.

2008-05-10 Thread Dave Agsten
I agree completely Dave. Maybe those who continually complain should buy a JA 
radio and join that list to see what they get. Nuff said.

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] E00005 err vco sub

2008-05-10 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ron,

Does your K3 have the subreceiver installed?  I do not think they have 
shipped yet because they are waiting for the shields (they will go out 
to the field testers quite soon). - so since you cannot have the 
sub-receiver installed, to see an error for the sub-receiver VFO is 
natural and to be expected.


73,
Don W3FPR

Ron Spencer wrote:

Trying to calibrate my newly finished K3. Downloaded newest firmware and can
calibrate the VCO for the primary VFO but fails the sub. 

Also zero output on 6. 


Firmware: 1.88
FPF .01
DSP1 1.70
DSP2 1.70

Can transmit and receive fine on main VFO (except of course for 6).

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Ron
N4XD

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 No Six Meters

2008-05-10 Thread n4lq

Dave
Works for me. I just push Freq ENT then 50.125 then the return/enter key.
Steve Ellington
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Subject: [Elecraft] K3 No Six Meters


I wanted to check out 6 meters tonight and could not get the K3 to sequence 
to that band. Direct freq entry of 50.125 went to 30.000Mhz. I thought 6 
meters appeared previously, but with the band as it currently is, never 
paid much attention to it.


Murphy's Law - tonight is the 6 meter sprint contest with real sigs on the 
band and I can't figure out what's up. Any suggestions?? Am I missing 
something in the menu?


73,
Dave N8AG
K3 #414





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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2008-05-10 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   It was a wonderful week to cut, split, and stack wood.  The biting flies 
were few and the sun was out a little each day.  Today that has changed.  
Clouds came in from the north, the wind kicked up, and the temperature dropped 
again.  The fire feels good; you can ask Sam - fire warden.  Now I have about 
two months worth of wood prepared for next winter.  It will dry rapidly because 
this is from the tree I topped about two years ago.  It is still rooted but 
lying on its side.  Looks like I will get about four months worth of wood out 
of one tree!
   I am currently listening on 40 meters.  It is much quieter than it has been 
for a long time.  Hopefully this will hold for tomorrow.  Twenty meters was 
good a few days ago until just before dusk.  Then it went away.  We held an 
ARES exercise on Thursday with 2m FM simplex.  Conditions were odd because 
there was QSB.  I had never heard 2 meters like this before.  Part of the 
exercise was to quote signal reports in both directions.  During a contact 
strength would vary greatly so often the reports were in ranges instead of 
discrete numbers.  

Please join us tomorrow evening.
 
1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help (as well as QSP/QNP relay help)
 
Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 7 PM PDT)  7045 kHz
 
   Stay warm,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

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