Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Ian Maude

wayne burdick wrote:
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.72 (with DSP rev 1.98) is now 
available. Anyone who has the KDVR3 (Digital Voice Recorder) installed 
will need this revision to use the DVR. We'll be making further 
improvements to DVR functions in later releases. Full details appear 
below.

Thanks Wayne,
I am looking forward to getting my DVR :)  I notice stopping playback is 
via the front panel of the radio.  Can play also be interrupted by PTT?


73 Ian

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
Which playback? Message playback or the RX loop? I would guess you  
mean Message playback and I would like that to stop if XMIT or a PTT  
line is keyed too.
Can this be added as a firmware upgrade when the message chaining is  
included Wayne?

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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On 10 Dec 2008, at 08:26, Ian Maude wrote:


wayne burdick wrote:
K3 beta-test firmware revision 2.72 (with DSP rev 1.98) is now  
available. Anyone who has the KDVR3 (Digital Voice Recorder)  
installed will need this revision to use the DVR. We'll be making  
further improvements to DVR functions in later releases. Full  
details appear below.

Thanks Wayne,
I am looking forward to getting my DVR :)  I notice stopping  
playback is via the front panel of the radio.  Can play also be  
interrupted by PTT?


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Ian Maude

David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
Which playback? Message playback or the RX loop? I would guess you 
mean Message playback and I would like that to stop if XMIT or a PTT 
line is keyed too.
Can this be added as a firmware upgrade when the message chaining is 
included Wayne?

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
I am talking about any time I am transmitting with it David.  If I am in 
a contest I want to be able to simply key the mic and for that to stop 
the DVR transmission with or without chaining.


73 Ian

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[Elecraft] K3: Noisy Fans

2008-12-10 Thread Barry Simpson
My fans have always been noisy. I can tell immediately when they come on at
the slowest speed with my headphones on. The noise sounds like rough
bearings but as they get faster both fans get noisier. They definitely are
not whisper quiet by any stretch of the imagination.

 

I just took the top cover off the K3 and there are no wires catching the fan
blades. The fan with the noisy bearings is the one on the right next to the
antenna sockets. But both fans are noisier the faster they run and they
drown out my computer fan.

 

I guess I need to ask Elecraft for replacement fans.

 

Barry Simpson  VK2BJ  K3 # 1397

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Re: [Elecraft] {Elecraft] Re: Dodgy Site

2008-12-10 Thread Julian, G4ILO



DaveL  G3TJP wrote:
 
 G4ILO said:
 Given that web hosting is available for well under a tenner in the UK from
 reputable hosts like 1+1, I don't know why someone would penny-pinch to
 the extent of using a dodgy free web host for their business site.
 
 Ah, I would have been disappointed if you hadn't commented, Julian.
 
 It's Chris's choice who hosts his longstanding website; FYI the hosting is
 run by another amateur, who's a friend of his.
 
 The site is sound, otherwise he'd have been out of business long ago, so
 rather than pick over the bones, why not look at the meat of the issue?
 
 Derogatory comments make me wish I'd never pestered him to provide a
 little Xmas deal for amateurs this side of the pond.
 
 Season's Greetings.
 
 

I believe I did look at the meat of the issue, when I said is Kaspersky
regards Free Web Town as a bad neighbourhood, with some justification if
Google is anything to go by. Why did you quote my post selectively?

I make my living from running websites so I do know a fair bit about the
subject. Getting your friend who knows a bit about computers to set up your
business website is not always a good idea, if you want to avoid blunders
that can harm your business.

Dave (AON) discovered a potentially serious security warning and did the
right thing by alerting people about it. I don't think anyone now believes
there is anything dangerous about the site, but the warning only arose
because of the choice of web hosting. It could have been genuine - as I
again said in my post, it is quite common for hackers to plant malware on a
site, especially sites that have been set up by someone who is not very
security conscious - and it was right for Dave to alert people until others
had had a chance to look at it.

It is, as you say, Chris's choice who hosts his site. However, I would have
thought he might have been concerned that his site is raising alerts that
could be turning away potential customers. I would have been, if it was my
site. But as you say, it's his business.

I will probably be ordering components from him myself, so thank you for
drawing this site to my attention and for making the arrangements for the K3
mod kit. However as an IT professional with 35 years in the industry I
regard internet security as a serious matter. I stand behind the comments I
have made on that matter, and consider that your snide response and attempt
to turn the blame on those who have commented is completely inappropriate.

73 and seasons greetings.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Noisy Fans

2008-12-10 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
double check the fan wires that run between the fan casing and the  
back panel - it might not be possible to see those from the top and  
you would need to remove the fans from the back panel.
But you might be able to tell by slowly rotating the fan manually, if  
it was a wire, you might be able to feel/hear it as the blade goes  
past. You would also be able to feel the bearings if they are that  
noisy.

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174
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they know they shall never sit in. -Greek proverb

On 10 Dec 2008, at 09:33, Barry Simpson wrote:

My fans have always been noisy. I can tell immediately when they  
come on at the slowest speed with my headphones on. The noise sounds  
like rough bearings but as they get faster both fans get noisier.  
They definitely are not whisper quiet by any stretch of the  
imagination.


I just took the top cover off the K3 and there are no wires catching  
the fan blades. The fan with the noisy bearings is the one on the  
right next to the antenna sockets. But both fans are noisier the  
faster they run and they drown out my computer fan.


I guess I need to ask Elecraft for replacement fans.

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[Elecraft] K3 TX Audio from LINE OUT V2.72/V1.98

2008-12-10 Thread Stewart Baker
Nice firmware addition, works well.

Thanks Guys.

73
Stewart G3RXQ
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[Elecraft] Santa is coming!

2008-12-10 Thread Benson
Katie sent a Katie-gram to me yesterday that my K3/10 kit was getting 
ready to ship. Order date was 26Nov08.  It's going to be a jolly Christmas!


K4GST

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Noisy Fans

2008-12-10 Thread Tim Heasman
Hi All,

The fan noise does not get louder than my tinitus until on speed 4, and then I 
can only hear air noise.

73 

Tim

gm4lmh # 1245
  - Original Message - 
  From: Barry Simpson 
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:33 AM
  Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Noisy Fans


  My fans have always been noisy. I can tell immediately when they come on at 
the slowest speed with my headphones on. The noise sounds like rough bearings 
but as they get faster both fans get noisier. They definitely are not whisper 
quiet by any stretch of the imagination.

   

  I just took the top cover off the K3 and there are no wires catching the fan 
blades. The fan with the noisy bearings is the one on the right next to the 
antenna sockets. But both fans are noisier the faster they run and they drown 
out my computer fan.

   

  I guess I need to ask Elecraft for replacement fans.

   

  Barry Simpson  VK2BJ  K3 # 1397



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and MixW PSK31

2008-12-10 Thread W2XB

Hello Gary,

I had problems wetting up at first also.
Here are my settings,
In mixw I have the cat set to Kenwood...model to elecraft k2..
my com port is set to #1 and baud rate is 38400 same as rig.
Have ptt via cat command checked
afsk in place of fsk checked.
In the sound card device is computer soundcard.
Then in input I have mic (soundcard name)
output speakers (soundcard name)
I have the sample rate at 1200 becuase I am using winkey...usually its at
11025.. If I remember right.
also have full duplex checked.
 On the rig I have data mode afsk a 
rts-dtr is set in the menu. and mic sel is Line in...
Hope this helps..


Don...w2xb



Gary Gregory-3 wrote:
 
 Thanks for the replies and settings etc. All to no avail sadly. The K3
 will
 work on CW but stubbornly refuses to TX on DATA A either RTTY or PSK31.
 
 This was a factory built unit and if I was located near Aptos it would be
 on
 it's way back to be checked out fully, sadly I live a little ways beyond
 California.
 
 Oh well, who wants to play with a computer when you can find a human to
 converse with...so no more data stuff for me, life is way too short to
 waste
 time playing with 4 data programs that simply don't work with this
 particular K3.
 
 Regards,
 Gary
 I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory
 
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[Elecraft] Re: Dodgy Site [End of Thread]

2008-12-10 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Guys,
Time to end this thread. If you need to discuss this further, please do it 
directly between each other.

73.
Eric  WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator
_..._
-Original Message-
From: Julian, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008 1:38 am
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] {Elecraft] Re: Dodgy Site
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net




DaveL  G3TJP wrote:
 
 G4ILO said:
 Given that web hosting is available for well under a tenner in the UK from
 reputable hosts like 1+1, I don't know why someone would penny-pinch to
 the extent of using a dodgy free web host for their business site.
 
 Ah, I would have been disappointed if you hadn't commented, Julian.
 
 It's Chris's choice who hosts his longstanding website; FYI the hosting is
 run by another amateur, who's a friend of his.
 
 The site is sound, otherwise he'd have been out of business long ago, so
 rather than pick over the bones, why not look at the meat of the issue?
 
 Derogatory comments make me wish I'd never pestered him to provide a
 little Xmas deal for amateurs this side of the pond.
 
 Season's Greetings.
 
 

I believe I did look at the meat of the issue, when I said is Kaspersky 
regards Free Web Town as a bad neighbourhood, with some justification if Google 
is anything to go by. Why did you quote my post selectively?

I make my living from running websites so I do know a fair bit about the 
subject. Getting your friend who knows a bit about computers to set up your 
business website is not always a good idea, if you want to avoid blunders that 
can harm your business.

Dave (AON) discovered a potentially serious security warning and did the right 
thing by alerting people about it. I don't think anyone now believes there is 
anything dangerous about the site, but the warning only arose because of the 
choice of web hosting. It could have been genuine - as I again said in my post, 
it is quite common for hackers to plant malware on a site, especially sites 
that have been set up by someone who is not very security conscious - and it 
was right for Dave to alert people until others had had a chance to look at it.

It is, as you say, Chris's choice who hosts his site. However, I would have 
thought he might have been concerned that his site is raising alerts that could 
be turning away potential customers. I would have been, if it was my site. But 
as you say, it's his business.

I will probably be ordering components from him myself, so thank you for 
drawing this site to my attention and for making the arrangements for the K3 
mod kit. However as an IT professional with 35 years in the industry I regard 
internet security as a serious matter. I stand behind the comments I have made 
on that matter, and consider that your snide response and attempt to turn the 
blame on those who have commented is completely inappropriate.

73 and seasons greetings.

-
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Directoryhttp://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html KComm for Elecraft K2 and K3 
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[Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread wayne burdick

I'm taking lots of notes for the next revision  :)

Wayne

On Dec 10, 2008, at 12:48 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:

Which playback? Message playback or the RX loop? I would guess you 
mean Message playback and I would like that to stop if XMIT or a PTT 
line is keyed too.
Can this be added as a firmware upgrade when the message chaining is 
included Wayne?

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174


On 10 Dec 2008, at 08:26, Ian Maude wrote:



Thanks Wayne,
I am looking forward to getting my DVR :)  I notice stopping playback 
is via the front panel of the radio.  Can play also be interrupted by 
PTT?


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RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Don Nesbitt
Great!  Please add one more to be able to completely empty an SSB message
rather than record something short over it.

How about REC  select M1 - M4  CLR  select same M1 - M4  rig returns to
operation.

While it does not seem to be documented, someone discovered (wish I could
remember who so credit could be given) that putting the im by itself into
a memory M1 - M4 on CW would result in emptying that memory - much better
than just overwriting it with a dit which does result in a xmitted signal
and amp relays tripping when inadvertently pushed in the heat of battle!

Thanks for your consideration Wayne.  '73 es gud dxing -- Don N4HH K3/100
#83

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wayne burdick
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:41 AM
To: David Ferrington, M0XDF
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support,etc.

I'm taking lots of notes for the next revision  :)

Wayne

SNIP

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Igor Sokolov

I have used my K3 with the second receiver installed in CQWW CW as 8Q7DV.
Just two requests for the future firmware releases:

1) Would be useful to have two receivers work on different bands. I know it 
is on the plan but this is so important that I have decided to remind about 
it again.
2) When I want to hear main receiver in both ears I simply switch sub rx off. 
It would be nice to be able to listen to sub rx in both ears as well. Is it 
possible?


73, Igor UA9CDC 


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML



Igor Sokolov wrote:
2) When I want to hear main receiver in both ears I simply switch sub rx 
off. It would be nice to be able to listen to sub rx in both ears as 
well. Is it possible?


Yes, please! I really wanted this when working 40m in CQ WW SSB - when
doing the listening my frequency and 70xx thing - when a weak station
comes in on my frequency, I really want a quick way to get him in both
ears...

~Iain


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Jim Brown
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 22:00:13 +0500, Igor Sokolov wrote:

It would be nice to be able to listen to sub rx in both ears as well.

Yes

Jim K9YC



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[Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD

2008-12-10 Thread Grant Youngman
Trying to put in 2.72.  Something crashed and caused a loss of  
communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck in MCU LD.


Went through the procedure for forcing  bootloads in the manual -- can  
get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display (no  
backlight).  But nothing past that.


Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17)  log:

11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps.
11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3
11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps.
11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps.
11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps.
11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.

It just sits at the ... waiting for MCU firmware load point and  
nothing happens.   The port checks ok, with good communication to the  
radio.  No yellow flashing led, ever.


Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it moving?  Or  
something else I missed in the manual?


Grant/NQ5T
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RE: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD

2008-12-10 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Please restart the K3 Utility.  Is this the Windows or Mac version of the K3
Utility?

You're pressing the Send All Firmware button on the Firmware page, right?

Dick, K6KR


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To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD

Trying to put in 2.72.  Something crashed and caused a loss of  
communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck in MCU LD.

Went through the procedure for forcing  bootloads in the manual -- can  
get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display (no  
backlight).  But nothing past that.

Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17)  log:

11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps.
11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3
11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps.
11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps.
11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400 bps.
11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.

It just sits at the ... waiting for MCU firmware load point and  
nothing happens.   The port checks ok, with good communication to the  
radio.  No yellow flashing led, ever.

Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it moving?  Or  
something else I missed in the manual?

Grant/NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD

2008-12-10 Thread Grant Youngman

Done several times.  NO change.

Except now, I can test the port and got a good test at the right  
speed.  The TX LED goes out, and the delta-F led comes on solid.  WHen  
I try to upload firmware I get K3 not responding.  So it responds,  
then it doesn't.


I don't have a good feeling about this.  Don't believe it's the  
computer port.  It seems to be the radio.


It's the Mac version of the Utility.

Grant/NQ5T


On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Greg - AB7R wrote:


Grant,

Sounds like the communications with the COM port were lost.  Shut  
down power on the
radio...unplug the power cable if necessary and the RS232 cable.   
Reboot your computer.
Reconnect the RS232 and power cable and start the utility program.   
Make sure its set for
38.4K baud rate and click the button on the ports tab to test  
communications.  Then try to

load the firmware again.

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065


On Wed Dec 10  9:21 , Grant Youngman  sent:


Trying to put in 2.72.  Something crashed and caused a loss of
communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck in MCU LD.

Went through the procedure for forcing  bootloads in the manual --  
can

get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display (no
backlight).  But nothing past that.

Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17)  log:

11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400  
bps.

11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3
11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400  
bps.

11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400  
bps.

11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400  
bps.

11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.

It just sits at the ... waiting for MCU firmware load point and
nothing happens.   The port checks ok, with good communication to the
radio.  No yellow flashing led, ever.

Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it moving?   
Or

something else I missed in the manual?

Grant/NQ5T
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2008-12-10 Thread walter renner
I am selling My Elecraft W1 HF watt meter, QRP to 140 Watts. Its installed in 
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Re: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD

2008-12-10 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

have you tried a reboot of the Mac?
--  
It is almost impossible to carry the torch of truth through a crowd  
without
singeing somebody's beard. -George Christopher Lichtenberg, scientist  
and

philosopher (1742-1799)

On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:42, Grant Youngman wrote:


Done several times.  NO change.

Except now, I can test the port and got a good test at the right  
speed.  The TX LED goes out, and the delta-F led comes on solid.   
WHen I try to upload firmware I get K3 not responding.  So it  
responds, then it doesn't.


I don't have a good feeling about this.  Don't believe it's the  
computer port.  It seems to be the radio.


It's the Mac version of the Utility.

Grant/NQ5T


On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Greg - AB7R wrote:


Grant,

Sounds like the communications with the COM port were lost.  Shut  
down power on the
radio...unplug the power cable if necessary and the RS232 cable.   
Reboot your computer.
Reconnect the RS232 and power cable and start the utility program.   
Make sure its set for
38.4K baud rate and click the button on the ports tab to test  
communications.  Then try to

load the firmware again.

-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065


On Wed Dec 10  9:21 , Grant Youngman  sent:


Trying to put in 2.72.  Something crashed and caused a loss of
communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck in MCU LD.

Went through the procedure for forcing  bootloads in the manual --  
can

get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display (no
backlight).  But nothing past that.

Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17)  log:

11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232  
38400 bps.

11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3
11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232  
38400 bps.

11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232  
38400 bps.

11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232  
38400 bps.

11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.

It just sits at the ... waiting for MCU firmware load point and
nothing happens.   The port checks ok, with good communication to  
the

radio.  No yellow flashing led, ever.

Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it  
moving?  Or

something else I missed in the manual?

Grant/NQ5T
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Re: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD

2008-12-10 Thread Grant Youngman

Yes, It's the Mac version.

It fails.  Every time.  Usually, but not always, once I restart  
everything, I can use the test comm page to check, and get a good  
test.  Then when I try loading firmware, it fails.


11:47:29 K3 is running main program. RS232 38400 bps.  -- after this  
message the yellow led is on solid

11:47:29 New firmware is available for your K3
11:47:34 K3 is not responding. -- after hitting send all new firmware

Grant/NQ5T



On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:42 AM, David Fleming wrote:


Hi Grant,

I'm the author of the Mac version. The log looks like it came from  
the Mac version of the Utility. As Dick suggested, restart the K3  
Utility and click Send All Firmware to K3. If you're getting good  
communication with the K3, the firmware load should proceed okay.  
Let me know if it continues to fail.


David, W4SMT


--- On Wed, 12/10/08, Dick Dievendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


From: Dick Dievendorff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD
To: 'Grant Youngman' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Elecraft Reflector' elecraft@mailman.qth.net 


Date: Wednesday, December 10, 2008, 12:31 PM
Please restart the K3 Utility.  Is this the Windows or Mac
version of the K3
Utility?

You're pressing the Send All Firmware
button on the Firmware page, right?

Dick, K6KR


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Grant Youngman
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:21 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD

Trying to put in 2.72.  Something crashed and caused a loss
of
communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck
in MCU LD.

Went through the procedure for forcing  bootloads in the
manual -- can
get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display
(no
backlight).  But nothing past that.

Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17)  log:

11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load.
RS232 38400 bps.
11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3
11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load.
RS232 38400 bps.
11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load.
RS232 38400 bps.
11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load.
RS232 38400 bps.
11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware
load.

It just sits at the ... waiting for MCU firmware
load point and
nothing happens.   The port checks ok, with good
communication to the
radio.  No yellow flashing led, ever.

Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it
moving?  Or
something else I missed in the manual?

Grant/NQ5T
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RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread srife
Do you mean to say that, as it is now, the sub receiver (2nd
receiver) cannot be on a different band? What is the use of having a 2nd
independent receiver if you cannot use it totally separate from the main
receiver?

Stan Rife 
W5EWA 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor Sokolov
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 11:00 AM
To: wayne burdick; David Ferrington, M0XDF
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support,
etc.

I have used my K3 with the second receiver installed in CQWW CW as 8Q7DV.
Just two requests for the future firmware releases:

1) Would be useful to have two receivers work on different bands. I know it 
is on the plan but this is so important that I have decided to remind about 
it again.
2) When I want to hear main receiver in both ears I simply switch sub rx
off. 
It would be nice to be able to listen to sub rx in both ears as well. Is it 
possible?

73, Igor UA9CDC 

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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Don Wilhelm

Stan,

The K3 errata sheet lists under omissions - last bullet - Independent 
sub receiver settings for BAND PRE, ATTN, NB, NR, NOTCH.


So for *now*, independent band settings are not possible.  It will be 
available in a future firmware release.  Keep watch on the firmware 
notes to see when it arrives.


73,
Don W3FPR

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Do you mean to say that, as it is now, the sub receiver (2nd
receiver) cannot be on a different band? What is the use of having a 2nd
independent receiver if you cannot use it totally separate from the main
receiver?

Stan Rife 
W5EWA 

  


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RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Ed Muns
   Do you mean to say that, as it is now, the sub receiver (2nd
 receiver) cannot be on a different band? What is the use of 
 having a 2nd independent receiver if you cannot use it 
 totally separate from the main receiver?

1.  For tuning the same band you are CQing on.  During the short listen
times between your CQs, you can find unworked stations in other parts of the
same band.

2.  For diversity reception, running a different antennas into the two
receivers.

The best way to simultaneously work on another band is to use a second
radio.  Different band operation with the two K3 receivers is a planned
enhancement for the future.

Ed - W0YK

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Re: [Elecraft] Help -- stuck in MCU LD

2008-12-10 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF
what are you using to connect, presumably we are talking USB to Serial  
adapter?

Have you got the latest drivers for this.
Although you don't say, I assume you normally have no trouble in doing  
an upgrade?

73 de M0XDF, K3 #174, Mac
--
There are three truths: my truth, your truth, and the truth.
-Chinese proverb

On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:50, Grant Youngman wrote:


Yes, It's the Mac version.

It fails.  Every time.  Usually, but not always, once I restart  
everything, I can use the test comm page to check, and get a good  
test.  Then when I try loading firmware, it fails.


11:47:29 K3 is running main program. RS232 38400 bps.  -- after this  
message the yellow led is on solid

11:47:29 New firmware is available for your K3
11:47:34 K3 is not responding. -- after hitting send all new  
firmware


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Iain MacDonnell - N6ML



Ed Muns wrote:

Do you mean to say that, as it is now, the sub receiver (2nd
receiver) cannot be on a different band? What is the use of 
having a 2nd independent receiver if you cannot use it 
totally separate from the main receiver?


1.  For tuning the same band you are CQing on.  During the short listen
times between your CQs, you can find unworked stations in other parts of the
same band.

2.  For diversity reception, running a different antennas into the two
receivers.


3. Working split in a DX contest where you want to listen for calls on
your own transmit frequency as well as where you're listening (e.g. on
40m, where the phone bands don't overlap between countries)

4. Busting a DX pile-up where they're listening 10-20 up, by
monitoring who they're responding to, so you can position yourself to be
next.

...

~Iain

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RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support,etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Phil LaMarche
I agree with everything stated but for my purpose, I want to monitor 6
meters while working the other bands.  Maybe I should have the wife stop my
Christmas present.

Phil 


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support,etc.



Ed Muns wrote:
  Do you mean to say that, as it is now, the sub receiver (2nd
 receiver) cannot be on a different band? What is the use of having a 
 2nd independent receiver if you cannot use it totally separate from 
 the main receiver?
 
 1.  For tuning the same band you are CQing on.  During the short 
 listen times between your CQs, you can find unworked stations in other 
 parts of the same band.
 
 2.  For diversity reception, running a different antennas into the two 
 receivers.

3. Working split in a DX contest where you want to listen for calls on your
own transmit frequency as well as where you're listening (e.g. on 40m, where
the phone bands don't overlap between countries)

4. Busting a DX pile-up where they're listening 10-20 up, by monitoring
who they're responding to, so you can position yourself to be next.

...

 ~Iain

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RE: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Ed Muns
   Do you mean to say that, as it is now, the sub receiver (2nd
 receiver) cannot be on a different band? What is the use of 
 having a 2nd independent receiver if you cannot use it 
 totally separate from the main receiver?

1.  For tuning the same band you are CQing on.  During the short listen
times between your CQs, you can find unworked stations in other parts of the
same band.

2.  For diversity reception, running a different antennas into the two
receivers.

3.  For simultaneously listening to the transmit and receive frequencies of
a split operation.

The best way to simultaneously work on another band is to use a second
radio.  Different band operation with the two K3 receivers is a planned
enhancement for the future.

Ed - W0YK

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[Elecraft] RX audio in both ears for sub receiver

2008-12-10 Thread W8ZN
If the K3 has the capability, the best would be to supply both ears both main 
and sub receiver audio but add a slight delay to the left ear for the sub 
receiver and and a slight delay to the right ear for the main receiver. This 
will give the good old stereo effect that the main receiver is on the left and 
the sub receiver is on the right. I've done this for many years using two 
radios and audio delay boards meant for repeaters. Since the rig has adjustable 
AFX already, my guess is it would only take Wayne's magic fingers on the 
keyboard to add thisalong with the 90 million other things that 
everyone asks for!

73,

Terry
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Peter

Wayne

Will the DVR be accesible via RS232 command?
If so the (contest) software programmers can add functions key to 
playback a recorded message. This will keep the fingers on the keyboard 
and not on the front panel


Peter
PC2A

wayne burdick schreef:

I'm taking lots of notes for the next revision  :)

Wayne



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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Lyle Johnson

I agree with everything stated but for my purpose, I want to monitor 6
meters while working the other bands... 


Having the Sub Rx work on a different band than the Main is a very high 
priority work in progress.  Stay tuned...


73,

Lyle KK7P

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[Elecraft] Re: Help -- stuck in MCU LD -- SOLVED

2008-12-10 Thread Grant Youngman
Problem solved, sort of.  Switched to a Windows XP machine, and was  
able to get everything to work.


Same USB/RS-232 interface (Prolific 2303), but obviously not the same  
driver.  So don't know if it is the USB driver (more likely), or the  
Mac version of Utility (probably less likely).


In any case, it worked fine.  I hate to keep one lousy Windows machine  
around for this sort of thing.  Up until this update with 1.1.10.17  
version of Utility, the Mac versions of everything have worked  
swimmingly.


Grant/NQ5T


On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:21 AM, Grant Youngman wrote:

Trying to put in 2.72.  Something crashed and caused a loss of  
communication the initial attempt, and the radio is stuck in MCU LD.


Went through the procedure for forcing  bootloads in the manual --  
can get to the red flashing TX LED, with MCU LD in the display (no  
backlight).  But nothing past that.


Here is a sample of the Utility (1.1.10.17)  log:

11:10:24 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400  
bps.

11:10:24 New firmware is available for your K3
11:10:29 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:01 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:11:12 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400  
bps.

11:11:12 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:30 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400  
bps.

11:11:30 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:35 K3 boot loader is ready for MCU firmware load. RS232 38400  
bps.

11:11:35 New firmware is available for your K3
11:11:46 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.
11:12:25 K3 boot loader is waiting for MCU firmware load.

It just sits at the ... waiting for MCU firmware load point and  
nothing happens.   The port checks ok, with good communication to  
the radio.  No yellow flashing led, ever.


Is there some other way to hard reset this thing to get it moving?   
Or something else I missed in the manual?


Grant/NQ5T


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[Elecraft] Sub and Main receiver audio

2008-12-10 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Since the audio of MAIN and SUB was mentioned in the DVR thread, a
sperate discussion.
 
 
 
 
The way the audio from MAIN and SUB comes to your ears has been
discussed before, but here's one.
 
How about this solution.
 
1. Suppose the audio is in the balance mode.
Sub-pot in the middle (balance): both receivers have same volume, MAIN
on left ear, SUB on right
When moving the  sub pot more to MAIN, then the audio of the SUB in
right ear decreases AND is filled up by extra sound of MAIN. So right
ear has a mix of SUB and MAIN.
This works vice versa of course.
In this way, when moving the balance to left, both ears will hear MAIN,
and when moving the balance right, both ears will hear SUB.
 
 
 
2. Suppose the audio in in nor mode.
Make this nor 1 and nor 2.
Both nor1 and nor 2 use the seperate controls as implemented now.
special about nor 1: audio of MAIN and SUB completely seperated (this is
the way the K3 is working now)
special about nor 2: audio of MAIN and SUB are a bit mixed but MAIN is
mainly on left and SUB is mainly on right  (like it is implemented on a
FT1000MP)
 
 
Donot know if it is easy to implement, but this is how I would like it.
 
 
73
Arie PA3A
 
 
 
 
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[K3] [Elecraft] K3: 1. Loud audio blast on power up 2. Main/SUB balance

2008-12-10 Thread Enno, PF5X

Hi,

Just loaded F/W 2.72/1.98 with the Send all firmware option (so including
data tables). The short audio blast is still there if you are tuned to a
signal when switching on the K3. It really hurts your ears as it seems that
for this short period the AGC is not yet ON.

Any fixes planned for this (change boot order in DSP such that AGC assumes a
signal being present until the RX really starts to receive) ??

BTW. The updated action of LINE OUT=NOR now with outputting monitor audio
during TX is great.

I have the set the CONFIG:SUB AF to BALANCE. When looking to the monitor VU
meters on the microKEYER router software it appears that the SUB output is
lower than the MAIN output with the balance knob in the 12 o'clock position
(after equalizing both main and sub with double tapping AB). This is effect
is also audible (~6dB difference).

Any cure for that ??


-- Enno, PF5X 



Alexandr Kobranov wrote:
 
 Hello John,
 
 it is tested here in OK-land (not on mine unit but on friend´s one) 
 that if you can cure there is need to send only DSP1 plus DSP data 
 tables again. No full package again, only DSP and tables. So uncheck 
 the rest of modules in K3 Utility and go
 
 You will see result, here it was solution.
 
 Let us know...
 
 73!
 L. -dst-
 
 
 John E. Reiser napsal(a):
 I noticed recently that on power up my K3 makes a noise for a fraction of
 a
 second.  It sounds like background atmospheric noise as it would sound
 with
 the SSB filter active, even though the radio was last powered off with a
 CW
 filter set.  I don't remember exactly when this behavior began, but it
 seems
 that it was in the last few beta firmware releases.  In every other
 respect
 my K3 behaves normally.
 
 Obviously, this is no big deal.  However, I did try reloading the latest
 beta version, as suggested on this reflector.  I always use Send All
 Firmware to K3, which reloads the data tables.  It didn't help.
 
 Could it be that recent firmware versions impose a slight delay before
 the
 filter selection stored on power down is implemented on power up?
 
 John, W2GW
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dick Dievendorff
 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:47 PM
 To: 'Chuck - AE4CW'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: RE: [K3] [Elecraft] Loud audio blast on power up
 
 
 You can also load data tables (along with all the other firmware, a
 complete
 refresh) by clicking Send All Firmware to K3 on the Firmware tab
 without
 checking Advanced Mode.  Advanced Mode has too many choices!
 
 Dick, K6KR
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chuck - AE4CW
 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:24 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [K3] [Elecraft] Loud audio blast on power up
 
 
 Shep, sorry for the late reply; I've been traveling.
 
 In the K3 Utility under View, check Advanced Mode.  This will display a
 check box labeled *Always load DSP data tables*.  Also, be sure to check
 all
 the appropriate boxes for loading the Firmware modules.
 
 This is the solution Gary provided back in March.  Hopefully, it will
 work
 for your problem now.
 
 Chuck, AE4CW
 
 
 
 Chuck-
 I have the same problem. It started with V2.57. How do I reload data
 tables ?
 Thanks
 Shep - W2BSB
 
 
 
 I had this problem long ago; a reload of the firmware AND the data tables
 cured it.  The trick was the data tables.  Thanks to Gary at Elecraft.
 
 Chuck, AE4CW
 
 
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[Elecraft] DVR from software

2008-12-10 Thread W8ZN
In response to the person that just posted about DVR functions from a computer 
program - 

From page 14 of the K3 programmers reference manual.

SWT/SWH * (Switch Emulation; SET only) K3 Extended SET format (K31): SWTnn; 
(TAP functions) or SWHnn; (HOLD functions). nn is determined from Table 4. 
Table 4 says nn of 21 will do the same as taping M1 on the front panel so I 
believe this should work.

If you logging program doesn't support this command, you can assign a funtion 
key to a macro from the OS to generate this command and pass it to the K3.

Terry
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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Toby Deinhardt

Hi,

2) When I want to hear main receiver in both ears I simply switch sub rx 
off. It would be nice to be able to listen to sub rx in both ears as 
well. Is it possible?


Yes this is missing. It would also be good to be able to turn the main 
RX off at times, especially when using the internal measurement system 
to check the filter attenuation, i.e. when setting up the amplification 
factors for the individual filters in the second RX.


vy 73 de toby


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Beta firmware rev. 2.72: updated DVR support, etc.

2008-12-10 Thread Stewart Baker
Lyle,
The high priority being given to the SUB IND is great news.
 I suspect that a number of K3 users are already tuned in :-)

73
Stewart G3RXQ
 Having the Sub Rx work on a different band than the Main is a
very high
 priority work in progress.  Stay tuned...

 73,

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Re: [K3] [Elecraft] K3: 1. Loud audio blast on power up 2. Main/SUB balance

2008-12-10 Thread Ed K1EP

At 12/10/2008 03:03 PM, Enno, PF5X wrote:


Hi,

Just loaded F/W 2.72/1.98 with the Send all firmware option (so including
data tables). The short audio blast is still there if you are tuned to a
signal when switching on the K3. It really hurts your ears as it seems that
for this short period the AGC is not yet ON.


I recorded the 160M CW contest this weekend using the LINE OUT=phone 
or speaker option.  I also noticed the short burst when the radio was 
turned on.



Any fixes planned for this (change boot order in DSP such that AGC assumes a
signal being present until the RX really starts to receive) ??

BTW. The updated action of LINE OUT=NOR now with outputting monitor audio
during TX is great.


Yes, this should make recording a lot easier, thanks!


I have the set the CONFIG:SUB AF to BALANCE. When looking to the monitor VU
meters on the microKEYER router software it appears that the SUB output is
lower than the MAIN output with the balance knob in the 12 o'clock position
(after equalizing both main and sub with double tapping AB). This is effect
is also audible (~6dB difference).


What I noticed, but didn't investigate, was that there was a DC 
offset in the SUB audio output.  I was using Audacity to record the 
audio.  Using the LINE OUT to a line in on my computer.  I noticed 
that monitoring the sidetone showed close to a zero (if not zero) DC 
offset for the left channel or the MAIN Rx.  The right channel 
however showed a substantial DC offset.  I haven't played with the 
new Beta yet, nor have I looked closely at the recording.


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Re: [Elecraft] Re: Help -- stuck in MCU LD -- SOLVED

2008-12-10 Thread Grant Youngman
That may have been the problem, although it has worked without a hitch  
for several updates.  After getting the radio working again with  
Windows, I reloaded the Prolific drivers on the Mac, and fiddled a bit  
more.  Then everything on the Mac was back to normal, too.


Just one of those things.  There are a lot of brand names of USB/ 
Serial converters.   Don't know about the Keyspan version, but a large  
number of these things,  regardless of brand,  use the same Prolific  
chip, perhaps with different drivers.


Anyway, it's working.  I am going to go hunting for a different  
interface, however, if the problem reoccurs.  It's too much hassle to  
drag out the old Windows PC :)


Thanks ... Grant/NQ5T


On Dec 10, 2008, at 2:16 PM, Willard Myers wrote:



I've done numerous K3 firmware updates from my Mac OS X machine with  
not a single issue. Also, my home-grown logging program talks to the  
K3 with no issues. I'm using a Keyspan USB-serial device. I'd  
suspect that Prolific thing :-


 Bill, K1GQ


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Re: [WT-support] [Fwd: [Elecraft] DVR from software]

2008-12-10 Thread Toby Deinhardt

Hello,


Now the DVR are going out for the K3 I have a software request:
The K3 internal voice keyer can be programmed with the RS232 commands.
Is it possible to add those commands to Win-test?


This seems like a must to me. When I look at the number of K3s being 
used by contesters, it would make a lot of people happy.


It would also be very nice if WinTest would finally also support 
Elecraft's internal keyers (K2 and K3).


vy 73 de toby



http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Pgmrs_Ref_Rev_B16.pdf, pages 9-10:
--
KS (Keyer Speed; GET/SET)

SET/RSP format: KSnnn; where nnn is 008-050 (8-50 WPM).

--

KY (CW or CW-to-DATA Keying from Text; GET/SET)

SET format: KY*[text]; where * is a BLANK (ASCII hex 0x20) and [text] is 
0 to 24 characters. Basic RSP format: KYn; where n is 0 (CW text buffer 
not full) or 1 (buffer full).


K2 Extended RSP format (K22): KYn; where n is 0 (buffer  75% full), 1 
(buffer  75% full), or 2 (buffer completely empty AND transmit of 
previous string is complete.


The following keyboard characters are mapped to CW prosigns:
( KN
+ AR
= BT
% AS
* SK
! VE

In addition to these prosigns, four special characters can be inserted 
anywhere in the KY command text:





Puts the K3 into TX TEST mode, until a '' character is received




Returns the K3 to TX NORM mode


@

In CW mode, this character normally terminates any CW message (via KY or 
manual send), emulating the K2. However, tapping ‘2’ in CONFIG:CW WGHT 
changes [EMAIL PROTECTED] to a prosign: the ‘at’ sign as used in e-mail addresses. 
This is the newest Morse Code character; it can be remembered as the 
prosign ‘AC’ (as in “the At Character”).



^D

(EOT, ASCII 04) Quickly terminates transmission; use with CW-to-DATA.
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Re: [K3] [Elecraft] K3: 1. Loud audio blast on power up

2008-12-10 Thread Monty Shultes

I thought I was just getting a low-level spurt of audio, but if there is a
signal on the frequency, it is a loud blast as Enno describes.

Monty  K2DLJ

Hi,

Just loaded F/W 2.72/1.98 with the Send all firmware option (so including
data tables). The short audio blast is still there if you are tuned to a
signal when switching on the K3. It really hurts your ears as it seems that
for this short period the AGC is not yet ON.

Any fixes planned for this (change boot order in DSP such that AGC assumes a
signal being present until the RX really starts to receive) ??

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[Elecraft] Some Info Please

2008-12-10 Thread Bryan. Mw0ctx
Name is Bryan,I have Just joined the mailing list.   Just 
wanted some info on the K1.   Is this difficult to build.  I am not an 
experience builder. But have built some kits in the past.   NOT LIKE THIS ONE,  
  What test gear do I need.Merry Christmas to all. Bryan
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RE: [Elecraft] Some Info Please

2008-12-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Hello Bryan.

 

The K1 requires no more than a basic soldering ability and the willingness
to follow step-by-step instructions. As many people have observed about all
the Elecraft kits, it's a matter of doing some simple soldering and assembly
many times. There's a lot of parts, even in the K1, but if you take the time
to follow the assembly procedure, you'll have a first class QRP rig. 

 

You can download the K1 manual that contains complete assembly instructions
here:

 

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K1_manual_rev_F.pdf

 

and there's an errata sheet for that manual here:

 

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K1_Errata_Rev_F-8.pdf

 

You'll need a few hand tools, a decent ESD-safe soldering iron, and a DMM. A
complete list of tools is on page 9. 

 

There are a lot number of K1 owners here with extensive experience who will
happily help you in case you have questions. Also, you can drop an e-mail to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] for direct tech support should the need arise. Elecraft
has the goal of never letting a builder fail to end up with a rig he/she is
proud to own and operate. 

 

It's all about enjoying Ham radio, and if part of that enjoyment for you  is
building a nice rig, you can't do better than Elecraft.

 

Ron AC7AC

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 12:54 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Some Info Please

 

Name is Bryan,I have Just joined the mailing list.
Just wanted some info on the K1.   Is this difficult to build.  I am not an
experience builder. But have built some kits in the past.   NOT LIKE THIS
ONE,What test gear do I need.Merry Christmas to all. Bryan

MW0CTX. Bryan 
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Re: [Elecraft] Some Info Please

2008-12-10 Thread Sam M

Bryan. Mw0ctx wrote:
Name is Bryan,I have Just joined the mailing list.   
Just wanted some info on the K1.   Is this difficult to build.  I am not 
an experience builder. But have built some kits in the past.   



Hi Bryan,
If you will go to google and type in the following
Elecraft K1 build pictures (all on one line with no quotes)
you will find a number of sites where folks built the K1 and took some pics as 
they went along.


here were just a couple to get you started.
http://www.oz9aec.net/index.php/k1
http://www.xcvr.com/k1/

Good luck I'm sure you will enjoy it.

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[Elecraft] OT: 'tis the season

2008-12-10 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
This found its way to my in box.  Forward (or delete) as you feel is
appropriate.

de Doug KR2Q

http://4k9w.oe4vie.com/4k9w_english.html
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[Elecraft] KDVR3 Installed and Running

2008-12-10 Thread Roy Morris
The KDVR3 is working well in both receive audio recording and transmit voice 
recording.  My first report on voice recording was that there was no difference 
between the recording and live audio.  Be sure to cycle the K3 off after going 
to CONFIG: KDVR3 and switching it to NOR.  Elecraft you have created more MOJO. 
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[Elecraft] RigBlaster Plug Play

2008-12-10 Thread Henri A Pollard
Has anyone successfully hooked up a RigBlaster Plug  Play to a K3 for MT63 and 
if so how?


 
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[Elecraft] Earning Customer Loyalty

2008-12-10 Thread Ken Widelitz
I had a two week old K-3 fail after I brought it to PEI for CQWW. The VFO B
knob stopped working so I couldn’t even change menu settings. I was able to
use the radio in CQWW. I brought it home, got an RMA and sent it in to Gary.
Within days he called me to tell me it wouldn’t fail on the bench, but that
he was going to change the VFO B encoder anyway. That is the kind of
pro-active customer service that earns my customer loyalty. I know, I’m
preaching to the choir here. Still, it is nice to see a company, any
company, doing it right with both product and service.

73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT






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[Elecraft] K102 AUX I/O Module toroid question

2008-12-10 Thread Sam M

On my K102 AUX I/O Module,
I'm at the step that says:
wind 12 turns of #26 red enamel wire (7, 18 cm) on the FT23-43 toroid core 
(L5)

1st question) is the 3/16 diameter dark gray ring really the toroid?
I've always seen toroids with a color band on them, this one has none.

also I was at about turn #6 when I skinned the wire while snugging it on the 
core
so I will have to start again with another piece of wire,
it seems I had only used about 2.5 inches of wire by turn 6's completion

so again I'm now wondering if what I thought was the toroid,
is not really the correct item
no, I don't see any other round thingies in there,
and yes I counted it as the toroid when I did the parts inventory.

also any tips on how to not skin the wire while winding?

I have wound many toroids b4,
but they all had a glazed looking surface
and didn't have the rather sharp edges that this core seems to have.

it's way to small to try to sand the edges  -- my first thought

I'll stop babbling now and wait for ya'lls replies.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and MixW PSK31

2008-12-10 Thread Craig KA0CT

You Should give Glenn a call at US Interface, as he was the best MixW
distributer around.  He has helped me get my K3 set up with MixW and his
interface as well as the RigExpert interface.  Just go to his website and
get his number.  He is a great guy.

Craig K6ML



Gary Gregory-3 wrote:
 
 Thanks for the replies and settings etc. All to no avail sadly. The K3
 will
 work on CW but stubbornly refuses to TX on DATA A either RTTY or PSK31.
 
 This was a factory built unit and if I was located near Aptos it would be
 on
 it's way back to be checked out fully, sadly I live a little ways beyond
 California.
 
 Oh well, who wants to play with a computer when you can find a human to
 converse with...so no more data stuff for me, life is way too short to
 waste
 time playing with 4 data programs that simply don't work with this
 particular K3.
 
 Regards,
 Gary
 I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and MixW PSK31

2008-12-10 Thread Craig KA0CT

He also has a GREAT interface.  I am using it now.

Craig K6ML



Gary Gregory-3 wrote:
 
 Thanks for the replies and settings etc. All to no avail sadly. The K3
 will
 work on CW but stubbornly refuses to TX on DATA A either RTTY or PSK31.
 
 This was a factory built unit and if I was located near Aptos it would be
 on
 it's way back to be checked out fully, sadly I live a little ways beyond
 California.
 
 Oh well, who wants to play with a computer when you can find a human to
 converse with...so no more data stuff for me, life is way too short to
 waste
 time playing with 4 data programs that simply don't work with this
 particular K3.
 
 Regards,
 Gary
 I just got lost in thought. It was unfamiliar territory
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K102 AUX I/O Module toroid question

2008-12-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
The 23 in the core designation is the outside diameter, so yes, you 
have the correct core.
The Ferrite cores have no color markings, they are a dull gray.  It is 
the powdered iron cores that are marked with colors.


As for tips on winding without scraping the wire enamel - *push* the 
wire through the core center instead of trying to pull it through.  Yes, 
you will have to pull to snug up the last inch or so.
In addition, to make a neat toroid winding, on each turn, form the wire 
around the *outside* of the core with a free finger or thumb before 
pulling it tight.


The wire lengths given in the Elecraft manuals are usually generous, 
which assures adequate lead length no matter how sloppy the toroid 
winding may be.


The ferrite cores sometimes have sharp corners.   You can round off 
those corner edges carefully with a file or sandpaper if they are 
exceptionally sharp.


73,
Don W3FPR

Sam M wrote:

On my K102 AUX I/O Module,
I'm at the step that says:
wind 12 turns of #26 red enamel wire (7, 18 cm) on the FT23-43 
toroid core (L5)


1st question) is the 3/16 diameter dark gray ring really the toroid?
I've always seen toroids with a color band on them, this one has none.

also I was at about turn #6 when I skinned the wire while snugging it 
on the core

so I will have to start again with another piece of wire,
it seems I had only used about 2.5 inches of wire by turn 6's 
completion


so again I'm now wondering if what I thought was the toroid,
is not really the correct item
no, I don't see any other round thingies in there,
and yes I counted it as the toroid when I did the parts inventory.

also any tips on how to not skin the wire while winding?

I have wound many toroids b4,
but they all had a glazed looking surface
and didn't have the rather sharp edges that this core seems to have.

it's way to small to try to sand the edges  -- my first thought

I'll stop babbling now and wait for ya'lls replies.


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Re: [Elecraft] K102 AUX I/O Module toroid question

2008-12-10 Thread KB9BVN

Don,

Just for info...could you use insulated 24g cross connect wire for this 
roid, thus making it easier to wind with no skinned spots on the insulation?



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To: Sam M [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K102 AUX I/O Module toroid question


The 23 in the core designation is the outside diameter, so yes, you have 
the correct core.
The Ferrite cores have no color markings, they are a dull gray.  It is the 
powdered iron cores that are marked with colors.


As for tips on winding without scraping the wire enamel - *push* the wire 
through the core center instead of trying to pull it through.  Yes, you 
will have to pull to snug up the last inch or so.
In addition, to make a neat toroid winding, on each turn, form the wire 
around the *outside* of the core with a free finger or thumb before 
pulling it tight.


The wire lengths given in the Elecraft manuals are usually generous, which 
assures adequate lead length no matter how sloppy the toroid winding may 
be.


The ferrite cores sometimes have sharp corners.   You can round off those 
corner edges carefully with a file or sandpaper if they are exceptionally 
sharp.


73,
Don W3FPR

Sam M wrote:

On my K102 AUX I/O Module,
I'm at the step that says:
wind 12 turns of #26 red enamel wire (7, 18 cm) on the FT23-43 toroid 
core (L5)


1st question) is the 3/16 diameter dark gray ring really the toroid?
I've always seen toroids with a color band on them, this one has none.

also I was at about turn #6 when I skinned the wire while snugging it on 
the core

so I will have to start again with another piece of wire,
it seems I had only used about 2.5 inches of wire by turn 6's 
completion


so again I'm now wondering if what I thought was the toroid,
is not really the correct item
no, I don't see any other round thingies in there,
and yes I counted it as the toroid when I did the parts inventory.

also any tips on how to not skin the wire while winding?

I have wound many toroids b4,
but they all had a glazed looking surface
and didn't have the rather sharp edges that this core seems to have.

it's way to small to try to sand the edges  -- my first thought

I'll stop babbling now and wait for ya'lls replies.


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[Elecraft] K3: 2nd Rx on another band

2008-12-10 Thread Ken Kopp

I have a 2nd receiver on order, too.  The -only- reason I've
ordered it is to listen for 6M openings while working or 
listening to another band.


73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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[Elecraft] K2 -- loss of output power control

2008-12-10 Thread Brian Lloyd
Our K2 was working perfectly until I opened it up, tightened the power  
transistor mounting screws, realigned the receiver, and put it back  
together. Now power output no longer follows the power setting. When  
set to a power output less than 10W, I hear the bypass relay but I get  
the High Cur display (momentarily) and the display then shows a power  
output of 0.3W with an SWR of 3.0. Output power as measured with a W1  
is 20W. If I advance the power control, as soon as I pass the 10W  
point the PA comes on and the power jumps to 150W output. Turning the  
power level control fully CCW (0.1W setting) produces 6W of output.


Looking at pin 7 of U5 on the KPA100 I can see good analog voltage  
that varies with power. I can see the value of VFWD change when the  
range changes (SCALE changes) also. I can also see varying VFWD at pin  
2 of U1 so this does not appear to be an analog problem.


FWIW, voltages at pin 2 of U1 for various power outputs are:

  6W -- 0.15V

 20W -- 0.30V

150W -- 0.29V

At pin 7 of U5 (U5b):

  6W -- 0.15V

 20W -- 0.30V

150W -- 0.77V

On the t-r menu item I have 8r hold set.

I do have output on VRFDET but the value only varies from about  
0.3V-0.7V so that appears to be working also.


I am planning to fly to Dominica on Friday and operate from there but  
I can't take the K2 unless I solve this problem.


Suggestions?

Brian Lloyd
Granite Bay Montessori School  9330 Sierra College Bl
brian AT gbmontessori DOT com  Roseville, CA 95661
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[Elecraft] fan speed

2008-12-10 Thread Todd Ruby
my fans make no noise at all. my question is: how do you change the  
fan speed?


tnx



73
de
todd
WB2ZAB

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Re: [Elecraft] fan speed

2008-12-10 Thread Joe Planisky
The fan speed changes automatically depending on the temperature of  
the PA transistors.  You can manually turn the fans on at each of the  
4 speeds (for testing the fans) in the CONFIG:KPA3 menu.  Beyond that,  
I don't think you can change the speed.


73
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On Dec 10, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Todd Ruby wrote:

my fans make no noise at all. my question is: how do you change the  
fan speed?



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[Elecraft] K3 Monitor

2008-12-10 Thread Ed Gray W0SD
It is my understanding that the monitor audio in the K3 was not so good 
early on but that this has been taken care of and has been OK for quite 
awhile.


The past two days I have gotten extensive on the air checks on 10 meters 
in preparation for the 10M contest coming up this week end as the 
monitor does not sound right to me.  It sounds like there is a echo. 
However I have run checks with locals at S-9+ and with stations 200 
miles away at S-0 to S-7 with QSB and I am getting great audio reports.


The real clincher is I listen on my other K3 with the attenuator on and 
RF gain backed off and it sounds good.  Something does not seem correct 
with my monitor audio, ie it is not a true representation of what the 
transmitter sounds like.  Does anyone have any ideas?


Ed W0SD

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RE: [Elecraft] K3 Monitor

2008-12-10 Thread Barry Simpson
Hi Ed

My monitor had a similar effect on SSB when I first got my K3. It was more
of a delay in the monitor rather than an echo.

However various firmware updates appear to have eliminated the issue. I am
running the next to the last beta firmware update. I wonder what version you
are running ?

73

Barry  VK2BJ


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Monitor

2008-12-10 Thread Jan Erik Holm

Monitor does not sound good. It never has and it doesn´t
now with the latest FW.
The only way is to listen to yourself in another RX.

/ Jim SM2EKM
---
Ed Gray W0SD wrote:
It is my understanding that the monitor audio in the K3 was not so good 
early on but that this has been taken care of and has been OK for quite 
awhile.


The past two days I have gotten extensive on the air checks on 10 meters 
in preparation for the 10M contest coming up this week end as the 
monitor does not sound right to me.  It sounds like there is a echo. 
However I have run checks with locals at S-9+ and with stations 200 
miles away at S-0 to S-7 with QSB and I am getting great audio reports.


The real clincher is I listen on my other K3 with the attenuator on and 
RF gain backed off and it sounds good.  Something does not seem correct 
with my monitor audio, ie it is not a true representation of what the 
transmitter sounds like.  Does anyone have any ideas?


Ed W0SD



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Monitor

2008-12-10 Thread Lyle Johnson
... Something does not seem correct 
with my monitor audio, ie it is not a true representation of what the 
transmitter sounds like.  Does anyone have any ideas?


With MON, you hear the slightly delayed audio from the monitor as well 
as your own voice.  This may be perceived by some as a slight echo.


The delay is due to how DSP works.

Tx audio is processed by the DSP (leveled, filtered and equalized), 
converted to a nominal 15 kHz IF, clipped (if compression is on) and 
then sampled, downconverted to audio, filtered again, and passed to the 
speaker or headphones (or, now, LINE OUT :-)


There is some delay associated with all of this processing.  This is 
most likely what you are hearing as a slight echo effect.


If you record MON and then play it back while you are not speaking, 
you'll hear no echo.


If you have the KDVR3 installed, listen to a voice message.  No echo.

73,

Lyle KK7P


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[Elecraft] KDVR3 delivery

2008-12-10 Thread Peter Connors, F5VNB
Just received notification of KDVR3 shipping for K3 #900 ordered 26 Nov 
2007.


Pete Connors F5VNB/G4PLZ

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