[Elecraft] Elecraft Support

2009-07-25 Thread Tom Boucher
I would, once again, like to applaud Gary Surrency at Elecraft K3 Support for 
his patience and speed of response in helping me install a firmware fix 
yesterday. The level of technical support provided by Elecraft is superb.

73
Tom G3OLB
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Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN and "Point and Click"

2009-07-25 Thread Julian, G4ILO


Dick Williams-2 wrote:
> 
> Your point is well taken; but in the end what percentage of  amatuers that 
> own a K3 do not have it hooked up to a computer and a logging program; and
> I 
> bet that most amateurs leave their computer on 24/7 and connected to a DX 
> Cluster.
> 

I certainly don't do that. Our electricity bill is high enough as it is, and
besides, leaving stuff switched on when it isn't being used is not a very
responsible use of non-renewable resources.

I'd be happier with a computer-based solution if the software ONLY gave you
the panoramic display. I want a standalone display that I can use alongside
the software of my choice but although I certainly understand the reasoning
of those who want one that will work without a PC I personally don't mind if
it is a standalone application. I can always buy a second monitor to display
it on if I want to. What I don't want or need is a whole screenful of
PowerSDR which was designed to be the front end to a fully computer
controlled radio not a "simple" panadapter.

-
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
* G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
* KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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[Elecraft] [K3] Newer K3 user

2009-07-25 Thread 4Z5TO

I've was in the dark ages of radio for sometime. Over year ago I decided to
update my HF transciever, the newest one I was using was an SB-102 Heathkit. 

I didn't have money to burn, (not that it would help) I wanted the most
modern and new at a good price. Something traditional looking and hopefully
a kit. So after a little research, the K3 came up. I had seen the K2 and was
considering going down that road until the K3 was released. I waited a while
until some. kinks were worked out and ordered one (No.2483). 

It arrived a few months later (forgot to confirm the email), then it sat for
another few months until I could pick it up. The waiting was nuts.

I built it over a fews days when time permitted, (about 7-8 hours) did the
mods/fixes on the boards too.
I couldn't belive how well everything fit together - amazing. Reading this
forum and various reviews over the interim was a real help, it made me aware
of a few things.

It has the lastest firmware (beta version) and I use a Gamma HPS-1a power
supply to - modernise. I took it all to the club meeting, hooked it up and
dazzled everybody there, like little kids in a candy store. The whole set-up
sans antenna fit in a briefcase and weighed nothing.

This K3 is more radio than I am ham. After a few months using the K3, I
loaded up HRD on my laptop at the urging of a fellow club member to stop
using the old paper logs and get a computer logger. That's another story.
Neat stuff. So much to learn.

So the shack is cooler now, electric bills are lower and I have sooo much
more room on my desk!

Thank you all at Elecraft for making such a great product.

I have a few questions about the some issues with the betaware, but I'll put
that in another post.

73,

Douglas 4Z5TO
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Re: [Elecraft] Need a kit recomendation (off topic a little)

2009-07-25 Thread Arthur Delibert

I built the Ten Tec 1254 several years ago and found it to be straightforward 
to build and an excellent performer.  When I needed a bit of help, Ten Tec 
service provided it.
 
The reviews in "Passport to World Band Radio" describe it as "the only world 
band receiver kit worth considering."

--Art Delibert, KB3FJO


> From: w1...@arrl.net
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:45:05 -0700
> Subject: [Elecraft] Need a kit recomendation (off topic a little)
>
>
> I purchased an AM radio kit for my five year old grandson. It was a piece of 
> #...@#$%! Did not even work when I completed it. Does anyone know of a simple 
> radio kit (like the old Heath crystal radio kit) that is of decent quality? 
> He was so disappointed, I was also. He loves to listen while make HF contacts 
> using my K3.
>
> 73
> Alan
> W1HYV
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Re: [Elecraft] New K1 on the way - Band Module Questions

2009-07-25 Thread David Yarnes
Hi All,

I sure agree with Rick's comment.  I liked my K1 from the 
outset, but not nearly as much as I have since I finally got 
the 4 band board installed!  As nicely designed as the K1 
is, swapping band boards got to be a real pain.  Personally, 
I would never recommend that someone only buy a 2 band board 
unless they were absolutely, dead certain they weren't going 
to want to upgrade later.  Of course, initially the 4 band 
board wasn't available.  Some folks may be put off by the 
fact that 17 isn't the CW band that 40, 30, and 20 can be, 
but when 17 is good, it's really good!  So, if you decision 
about getting the 4 band board is tempered by uncertainty 
about 17 meters, I'd suggest you add it to your system. 
Even while propagation was falling off the face of the earth 
this past year or so, I worked a lot of good DX on 17 
meters.

I've also been less than thrilled with the internal battery 
option in either the K1 or the K2.  I think it's better to 
forgo that option, and just use outboard power sources. 
That way, you have more flexibility about what size power 
source you provide, and the rig doesn't get weighed down 
with batteries.  Probably a lot of folks will disagree with 
that, but it's strictly personal preference.  You still have 
to have "the weight" somewhere, but with external power you 
can pack it separately, like "checked luggage" vs. 
"carry-on".

The internal ATU option is a tricky decision.  I have it in 
both the K1 and K2, but the T1 is a super alternative.  If 
you have both rigs, or other rigs (like an FT-817 maybe?), 
the T1 can solve a lot of problems.  If I was really 
pinching pennies (which I seem to be doing more of these 
days!), I might have just let the T1 be my sole tuner option 
for QRP stuff.  If you have any kind of collection of QRP 
rigs, you will probably want the T1 anyway.  It's a great 
little tuner.

Dave W7AQK




- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Dettinger" 
To: "Gary W. Marklund" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New K1 on the way - Band Module 
Questions


>I am not sure if you are planning to change the two band 
>modules often
> but if you are, I think it would be better to use an 
> external tuner
> like the T1 rather than the optional internal tuner.  It 
> makes module
> swapping much easier.
> The K1 wasn't really designed for frequent module changes 
> and its not
> just a matter of plugging a new one in, like with the 
> Sierra.  If you
> have the internal tuner installed, it needs to be removed 
> to change
> band modules.  I have often thought that if one could get 
> along
> without the internal batteries, the speaker and the tuner, 
> that there
> would be room for more bands on a larger board or multiple 
> boards.
> But this would require switching changes to the firmware. 
> Not
> something for mere mortals to play around with.  Enjoy 
> your new K1.  I
> sure like mine.
>
> 73
>
> Rick DettingerK7MW
>
>
> On Jul 24, 2009, at 8:13 PM, Gary W. Marklund wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Sandy and Don. Looks like the two-band modules 
>> will give me
>> the
>> flexibility I want. Can't wait to get started. USPS 
>> tracking shows it
>> has arrived and been processed through the Phoenix 
>> sorting facility.
>> I'll have my kit tomorrow!
>>
>> Gary
>> KJ7RT
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Re: [Elecraft] New K1 on the way - Band Module Questions

2009-07-25 Thread Bill W4ZV


David Y. wrote:
> 
> The internal ATU option is a tricky decision.  I have it in 
> both the K1 and K2, but the T1 is a super alternative.  If 
> you have both rigs, or other rigs (like an FT-817 maybe?), 
> the T1 can solve a lot of problems.  If I was really 
> pinching pennies (which I seem to be doing more of these 
> days!), I might have just let the T1 be my sole tuner option 
> for QRP stuff.  If you have any kind of collection of QRP 
> rigs, you will probably want the T1 anyway.  It's a great 
> little tuner.
> 

I have two QRP rigs (a K2 and KD1JV's ATS-3) so I opted for an external
tuner that works well with either.  I have nothing against the T1, but
another low cost ($65 kit, $90 assembled) alternative is the Emtech ZM-2:

http://emtech.steadynet.com/zm2.shtml

It's small, light (8 ounces), passive (non-autotune but very easy to tune
and no battery to worry about) and tunes virtually anything on 10-80m (but
not 160).  The 15W power rating is a nice complement to the QRP K2. 

CU tomorrow in the Flight of the Bumblebees...I'll be using my K2 and the
ZM-2 from the top of Morrow Mountain (NC).

73,  Bill  W4ZV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 160M Diversity Users

2009-07-25 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


> The 8 poles probably have a better shape factor than the 5 
> poles, judging by my experience comparing the 5 pole stock 
> Kenwood filters with the 8 pole IRC replacements in my old 
> TS850.  With the DSP, I'm not sure you'd notice the 
> difference but as you see I went for the better filters and 
> don't regret it.

The 8-pole filters do have significantly better shape factor 
but mostly at the lowest levels on the filter skirts.  For 
the most part you will never see the difference as the DSP 
has an almost rectangular response.  

You're not likely to see any real difference between the 500 Hz 
5-pole and 400 Hz 8-pole filters in practice.  I've measured the 
-6dB bandwidth of the 500 Hz 5-pole filters in both of my radios 
at just under 500 Hz and the -30 dB bandwidth at about 760 Hz.  
This compares to the published data of 435 Hz @ -6dB and 650 Hz 
@ -30 dB for the 400 Hz 8-pole filters - see: 
www.elecraft.com/K3/K3_8_pole_plots.htm or 
www.inrad.net/product.php?productid=150&cat=140&page=1 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 




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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Hinson
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 1:43 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 160M Diversity Users
> 
> 
> > I am about to order filters for the K3 and need some final
> > advice.  
> 
> Hi Mike.
> 
> I have a pair of 400Hz and a pair of 250Hz 8 poles in my K3.  
> I'm pretty active, 99% CW, and rarely use the 400Hz (maybe 
> once a day) and very rarely the 250Hz (once a week).  The DSP 
> works extremely well. So of these, I'd recommend the 400Hz, 
> and save up for the 250's later if you decide you need even 
> narrower bandwidth than the 400+DSP can achieve.  
> 
> The 8 poles probably have a better shape factor than the 5 
> poles, judging by my experience comparing the 5 pole stock 
> Kenwood filters with the 8 pole IRC replacements in my old 
> TS850.  With the DSP, I'm not sure you'd notice the 
> difference but as you see I went for the better filters and 
> don't regret it.
> 
> On extremely rare occasions (e.g. fishing out CW callers in 
> SSB QRM from Indonesian pirates) I have wound the filters 
> right down to the minimum 50Hz and even at that ridiculously 
> narrow setting, the K3 is a joy to copy with no appreciable 
> ringing - miles better than the TS850
> and indeed any other rig I've tried.   
> 
> I also use diversity with a 30m fullwave loop.  Works great!
> 
> I'm thinking of getting the AM and/or FM filters next so I 
> can open up the bandwidth to listen to a whole chunk of band 
> at once using an AF spectrum program: it sometimes helps to 
> listen to all the callers in a pileup and to choose a clear 
> slot to call.
> 
> 73,
> Gary  ZL2iFB
> 
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] Let me build your K2

2009-07-25 Thread Alan Price

Let me build a new K2 (or other Elecraft kit) for you.  I have built more than 
280 K2's to date.  My prices are reasonable, and you receive a new radio, ready 
to play.  Please respond off of the reflector.
 
73
Alan
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 160M Diversity Users

2009-07-25 Thread Joe Planisky
Hi Gary,

Do keep in mind that in CW mode, the maximum audio bandwidth is  
limited by the DSP to 2.8 kHz even if you have the AM or FM roofing  
filter installed.  Even in phone modes, the audio rolls off somewhere  
around 4 kHz, so that would give you a fairly narrow chunk of the band  
at audio.

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Jul 24, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Gary Hinson wrote:

...
>
> I'm thinking of getting the AM and/or FM filters next so I can open up
> the bandwidth to listen to a whole chunk of band at once using an AF
> spectrum program: it sometimes helps to listen to all the callers in a
> pileup and to choose a clear slot to call.
>
> 73,
> Gary  ZL2iFB

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Re: [Elecraft] Need a kit recomendation (off topic a little)

2009-07-25 Thread Dale Putnam

Hi Alan and all,

  You might want to consider rolling your own, with a homemade coil, a slider 
for the coil, grab a polycon or air variable, a set of headphones. Now the 
decision, a pin and a piece of galena, or a razor blade... or dissimilar metal 
contact... and a long wire antenna... make it your self... or rather let him 
make it himself... with a lotta help, and watch his eyes light up when he hears 
things. 

  Nothing better than getting him started early working with his hands, and 
watching what he makes work, just like it is supposed to... well.. maybe after 
some adjustments but then even any of the Elecraft products need final 
checkout, and in some cases a bit of alignment too. But, they have all been 
built by folks that enjoy working with their hands. 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 160M Diversity Users

2009-07-25 Thread Dick Green WC1M
My experience pretty-much aligns with Bill's. I started out with matched
pairs of 5-pole 500 Hz and 5-pole 200 Hz filters. The 500/200 combination
makes a little more sense than the 400/250 combination because there's more
difference between the filter widths.

Like Bill, I rarely use the 200 Hz filters. Most of my use is contesting. If
you spend too much time with BW cranked down to 200 Hz or less, you're going
to miss a lot of callers. I only use narrow BW when someone plops down very
close to my frequency when I'm in the middle of a QSO. That said, the narrow
BW saves me every now and then, which for me is worth the cost.

I was fairly satisfied with the 5-pole 500 Hz filters, but was sometimes
bothered by thumping and clicking from loud stations (S9 and higher) just
above my passband. This is likely caused by the hardware AGC activating at
somewhat too low a level. Quite a while ago there was a fix to the RF board
to raise the threshold, but some of us think it's still too low.

At any rate, though the theory says that roofing filters aren't responsible
for the ultimate selectivity (the DSP does that), I found that they do make
a difference in the above situation. Switching off the 500 Hz filters and
using the 200 Hz filters produced audibly less interference, most likely by
providing greater attenuation at the hardware AGC stage. That induced me to
replace the 5-pole 500 Hz filters with 8-pole 400 Hz filters.

The result was a minimal improvement, not easily detected by testing. The
real test will come this fall when I'm squeezed into 40m or 20m with
zillions of loud stations on either side.

All that said, Bill is correct that, with the matching fee, the price
difference between 5-pole and 8-pole filters is small enough that it makes
sense to get the 8-pole filters. I should note that the 8-pole filters are
not necessarily perfectly centered, but they're close enough that you
probably won't need to use any offset for diversity.

As far as the 200 Hz vs 250 Hz filters go, if you want to have them in
reserve for those really tough QRM situations, I would get the 5-pole 200 Hz
filters. Elecraft says they're narrower than the 250 Hz filters all the way
down. Also, there's more BW difference between the 200s and the 400s/500s.

I agree completely with Bill on the merits of diversity: with the right
antennas, it's amazing.

73, Dick WC1M

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill W4ZV [mailto:btipp...@alum.mit.edu]
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 10:27 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 160M Diversity Users
> 
> 
> W4UM wrote:
> 
> > What are your recommendation if I were to get only
> one pair of filters?
> 
> I would go with either the 500 or 400 8-poles.
> 
> > Is there any real value to getting a pair of narrow
> (200Hz or 250Hz) filters as well as a pair of the wider (400Hz or 500Hz)
CW
> filters, or am I just wasting money?
> 
> I have a 200 Hz in my Main in addition to 500 Hz 8-poles in Main and Sub.
> If you contest or are in huge simplex pileups, there are definitely times
> when the 200 Hz may be useful.  For some reason I don't understand, I have
> no offset warbling when setting WIDTH to 200 (which enables the 200 Hz in
> Main and 500 Hz in Sub).  Most of the time when listening to weak signals,
I
> use 350-500 Hz WIDTH so a pair of 500 Hz filters is fine excluding the
> extreme cases of simplex pileups or a strong station nearby (e.g. the CQ
160
> CW contest).
> 
> > Is there a noticeable difference between the 5-pole and 8-pole filters?
> 
> I used 5-pole 500s in my first K3 and have not noticed a significant
> difference with the 8-poles, but I've not compared them simultaneously.
As
> you stated, there's little cost difference (after the matching charge) so
I
> went with the 8-pole 500 Hz when it became available.  I personally prefer
a
> slightly wider BW than the 400 Hz allows but that's another option some
> choose.
> 
> You'll love diversity on 160 and 80, especially if you have good RX
> antennas.  I use my TX antenna (similar to a 4-square) in one RX and
> Beverages in the other, and I use diversity 99% of the time on the low
> bands.  I would never own any rig without diversity now that I've used it.
> 
> 73,  Bill  W4ZV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 160M Diversity Users

2009-07-25 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV


> All that said, Bill is correct that, with the matching fee, 
> the price difference between 5-pole and 8-pole filters is 
> small enough that it makes sense to get the 8-pole filters.

This is particularly true if you are buying multiple filters. 
With the discount for three (5%) or five (10%) filters, the 
direct route is less expensive than including the filters with 
the transceiver.  

> I would get the 5-pole 200 Hz filters. Elecraft says they're 
> narrower than the 250 Hz filters all the way down.  

Close enough ... measurements of my 200 Hz filters "in circuit" 
show 210 Hz @ -6dB and 840 Hz @ -50dB (I need to repeat the 
measurements with the preamp to extend the range) versus the 
published data (www.elecraft.com/K3/K3_8_pole_plots.htm) for 
the 250 Hz filters: 370 Hz @ -6dB and 785 Hz @ -60dB. 

73, 

   ... Joe, W4TV 
 


> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick Green WC1M
> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 1:30 PM
> To: 'Bill W4ZV'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 160M Diversity Users
> 
> 
> My experience pretty-much aligns with Bill's. I started out 
> with matched pairs of 5-pole 500 Hz and 5-pole 200 Hz 
> filters. The 500/200 combination makes a little more sense 
> than the 400/250 combination because there's more difference 
> between the filter widths.
> 
> Like Bill, I rarely use the 200 Hz filters. Most of my use is 
> contesting. If you spend too much time with BW cranked down 
> to 200 Hz or less, you're going to miss a lot of callers. I 
> only use narrow BW when someone plops down very close to my 
> frequency when I'm in the middle of a QSO. That said, the 
> narrow BW saves me every now and then, which for me is worth the cost.
> 
> I was fairly satisfied with the 5-pole 500 Hz filters, but 
> was sometimes bothered by thumping and clicking from loud 
> stations (S9 and higher) just above my passband. This is 
> likely caused by the hardware AGC activating at somewhat too 
> low a level. Quite a while ago there was a fix to the RF 
> board to raise the threshold, but some of us think it's still too low.
> 
> At any rate, though the theory says that roofing filters 
> aren't responsible for the ultimate selectivity (the DSP does 
> that), I found that they do make a difference in the above 
> situation. Switching off the 500 Hz filters and using the 200 
> Hz filters produced audibly less interference, most likely by 
> providing greater attenuation at the hardware AGC stage. That 
> induced me to replace the 5-pole 500 Hz filters with 8-pole 
> 400 Hz filters.
> 
> The result was a minimal improvement, not easily detected by 
> testing. The real test will come this fall when I'm squeezed 
> into 40m or 20m with zillions of loud stations on either side.
> 
> All that said, Bill is correct that, with the matching fee, 
> the price difference between 5-pole and 8-pole filters is 
> small enough that it makes sense to get the 8-pole filters. I 
> should note that the 8-pole filters are not necessarily 
> perfectly centered, but they're close enough that you 
> probably won't need to use any offset for diversity.
> 
> As far as the 200 Hz vs 250 Hz filters go, if you want to 
> have them in reserve for those really tough QRM situations, I 
> would get the 5-pole 200 Hz filters. Elecraft says they're 
> narrower than the 250 Hz filters all the way down. Also, 
> there's more BW difference between the 200s and the 400s/500s.
> 
> I agree completely with Bill on the merits of diversity: with 
> the right antennas, it's amazing.
> 
> 73, Dick WC1M
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill W4ZV [mailto:btipp...@alum.mit.edu]
> > Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 10:27 PM
> > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 160M Diversity Users
> > 
> > 
> > W4UM wrote:
> > 
> > > What are your recommendation if I were to get only
> > one pair of filters?
> > 
> > I would go with either the 500 or 400 8-poles.
> > 
> > > Is there any real value to getting a pair of narrow
> > (200Hz or 250Hz) filters as well as a pair of the wider (400Hz or 
> > 500Hz)
> CW
> > filters, or am I just wasting money?
> > 
> > I have a 200 Hz in my Main in addition to 500 Hz 8-poles in 
> Main and 
> > Sub. If you contest or are in huge simplex pileups, there are 
> > definitely times when the 200 Hz may be useful.  For some reason I 
> > don't understand, I have no offset warbling when setting 
> WIDTH to 200 
> > (which enables the 200 Hz in Main and 500 Hz in Sub).  Most of the 
> > time when listening to weak signals,
> I
> > use 350-500 Hz WIDTH so a pair of 500 Hz filters is fine 
> excluding the 
> > extreme cases of simplex pileups or a strong station nearby 
> (e.g. the 
> > CQ
> 160
> > CW contest).
> > 
> > > Is there a noticeable difference between the 5-pole and 8-pole 
> > > filters?
> > 
> > I used 5-pole 500s in my first K3 and have not noticed a 
> significant 
> > d

Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN and "Point and Click"

2009-07-25 Thread E. Tichansky
Julian, G4ILO wrote:
> I'd be happier with a computer-based solution if the software ONLY gave you
> the panoramic display. I want a standalone display that I can use alongside
> the software of my choice but although I certainly understand the reasoning
> of those who want one that will work without a PC I personally don't mind if
> it is a standalone application. I can always buy a second monitor to display
> it on if I want to. What I don't want or need is a whole screenful of
> PowerSDR which was designed to be the front end to a fully computer
> controlled radio not a "simple" panadapter.
I would find a "hybrid" solution more useful, ie. stand-alone or capable 
of interfacing w/ a PC.  The current problem I run into now is that 
there is no "practical" way to run two LP-PANs (specifically PowerSDR) 
on one PC, one for each of two K3s.  I've tested doing so w/ one 
instance of PowerSDR in a VMware container, but additional bandwidth 
limitations (virtual sound device), delays, et.al. are less than 
optimum.  With two stand-alone units, there wouldn't be a particular 
PC-related limitation, but then "point-and-click" may be lost.  Though, 
as I understand it, there were plans to use a "tuning" knob on the front 
panel with push capability to jump to K3 to the freq. were the on-screen 
marker is located.

The Elecraft panadapter could take a couple directions as far as PC 
integration.  1) Provide I/Q outputs to interface w/ the PC's soundcard, 
or 2) Have a built-in USB sound device (ie. similar to some Microham 
devices).  The latter would certainly increase costs, but would 
eliminate the need to go out and purchase a high-end card; maybe include 
it as an add-on option in the same style as everything else in the K3 realm.

Anyways, it will be interesting to see the product when it arrives.

Eric NO3M
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[Elecraft] Kits built for W4PM

2009-07-25 Thread H. M. Motley, Jr,
I received 9 responses with offers to build the K2 and/or the KX1. In addition 
I received 3 or 4 other responses directing me to builders.  I appreciate all 
responses.  I need to put all the information into a spreadsheet (I'm a former 
accountant) so I can quickly compare the various responses.  Some quoted 
prices, others needed more information.  

Here's more information:

KX1 -Includes the 30M adapter.  This kit has not been started.  The box has 
been opened but all parts are in original parts bags and/or wrappings.  The 
owners manual is REV A 10/10/03.  The serial number may be 000100 if that's 
what that number on the box is? 

K2 - a very early kit which includes the following manuals:

Rev A - 06/14/99
REV C - 04/19/00  The original owner must have ordered the newer ones later!
REV E - 02/16/03

The original owner sorted and checked all parts and has them in boxes in 
envelopes identifying the contents of each.  A set of prewound coils is in 
there too.  There is also a box identified as "Revision B Components kit". In 
this kit components are all in original bags or wrappings. It has a new serial 
number of 03309.  The original owner included a literal "mountain" of printed 
messages from the various Elcraft reflectors.  The actual building of the kit 
has not been started.  No soldering gun, wire cutters, screw drivers etc have 
ever approached this kit! :-)  Frankly with all the various changes that have 
occurred I would not know where to start.

Again thanks for the interest shown in this project.  For those who needed more 
information before quoting a price let me know if what I provided above is 
sufficient.  Those who inquired if I had received their messages, be assured I 
did but the response has been a bit overwhelming. For now I'm posting this to 
the reflector rather than respond to each of you individually.

73,
Puck, W4PM



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[Elecraft] [K3] : Installing KBPF3 in the sub-receiver

2009-07-25 Thread Raymond METZGER

Hi Elecrafters,

I'm planning to perform most of the available enhancements on my K3/100
(#0615) with the objective of removing only once the KRX3 module. The
question I have : is it possible to install a KBPF3 module in the
subreceiver without removing the KRX3 module (provided, of course, that the
two KBPF3 1/2" standoffs are already mounted on the KRX3 board).

In the KBPF3 installation manual (Revision D - June 24, 2008), it is clearly
stated page 7 that "If your K3 is equipped with the optional KRX3
subreceiver, you must remove the subreceiver module to install the KBPF3 in
either the main receiver or the subreceiver."

Nevertheless, when I read the KRX3 assembly manual, I have the feeling that
it should be possible to install the KBPF3 module in the subreceiver without
removing the KRX3 module.

Could somebody clarify this issue ?

Thanks and 73,
de Raymond, F4FNT.




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[Elecraft] [K3] dBV display

2009-07-25 Thread Julian, G4ILO

I don't use the dBV display very often, but since I last did many firmware
updates ago it seems to have developed a problem. Very often, the reading is
stuck on +99.9dBV. Sometimes, rotating the VFO B knob to select a different
reading, then back to dBV, gets it working. I'm in data mode with the AGC
off, though I'm not sure that is always the case when this happens. Can
anyone reproduce this? Perhaps it just needs a squirt of virtual WD40.

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* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] dBV display

2009-07-25 Thread Lyle Johnson
Hello Julian!

> I don't use the dBV display very often...

First, you need to select AFV. Once that is stable, go to dBV and you 
will then read dB relative to the AFV level.  If you go directly to dBV, 
it is referenced to 0 so you get an over range.

Enjoy!

73,

Lyle KK7P

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] dBV display

2009-07-25 Thread Julian, G4ILO



Lyle Johnson wrote:
> 
> Hello Julian!
> 
>> I don't use the dBV display very often...
> 
> First, you need to select AFV. Once that is stable, go to dBV and you 
> will then read dB relative to the AFV level.  If you go directly to dBV, 
> it is referenced to 0 so you get an over range.
> 
> 

Crikey, you're quick off the mark tonight Lyle! I must have been going to
AFV accidentally, which was getting it going. The problem must occur when it
is left in the dBV setting from the previous time the radio was used. I
didn't know you had to do that. It always seemed to just work before. Thanks
for the info!

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] dBV display

2009-07-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Julian,

You moved too quickly through the AFV display.
The way dBV works  - it provides the delta from the last stable AFV value.
Go to AFV and wait until the value settles down, then move to dBV and 
you should see a value very close to zero if the audio is close to what 
it was when you were on AFV.
Now rotate your antenna, or change antennas, or or switch between 
whatever you are comparing, and you should see the variation in dB.

To be meaningful, dBV should be used with a steady signal source (unless 
you want to indicated the varaition between two signals).

73,
Don W3FPR


Julian, G4ILO wrote:
> I don't use the dBV display very often, but since I last did many firmware
> updates ago it seems to have developed a problem. Very often, the reading is
> stuck on +99.9dBV. Sometimes, rotating the VFO B knob to select a different
> reading, then back to dBV, gets it working. I'm in data mode with the AGC
> off, though I'm not sure that is always the case when this happens. Can
> anyone reproduce this? Perhaps it just needs a squirt of virtual WD40.
>
> -
> Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392  K3 #222.
> * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
> * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
> * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
>   
>
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[Elecraft] broken AF knob

2009-07-25 Thread r miles
I've only had my K3 #2626 5 months. The AF knob loosened today. When I finally 
found an alan small enough to tighten it the knob split before it was even 
snugged up. Not cranked. Wasn't there a thread about this about the time I 
purchased my K3? Is this a common problem? Is there an improved knob available?
I just sent Elecraft an e mail so I hope to get their reply Monday.

K9IL
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Re: [Elecraft] Kits built for W4PM

2009-07-25 Thread Bob Nielsen
I suspect that the K2 was originally a Rev. A kit and the original  
owner also purchased the Rev B upgrade Kit which included new pc  
boards and the additional components required for the Rev B boards (I  
recall that a complete set of resistors was included), so there will  
definitely be some parts left over.  The upgrades received a new  
serial number and that one is close to mine (#3273), which I built as  
a Rev B upgrade.  There is a set of upgrade instructions on the  
Elecraft web site.

73, Bob N7XY

On Jul 25, 2009, at 1:32 PM, H. M. Motley, Jr, wrote:

> I received 9 responses with offers to build the K2 and/or the KX1.  
> In addition I received 3 or 4 other responses directing me to  
> builders.  I appreciate all responses.  I need to put all the  
> information into a spreadsheet (I'm a former accountant) so I can  
> quickly compare the various responses.  Some quoted prices, others  
> needed more information.
>
> Here's more information:
>
> KX1 -Includes the 30M adapter.  This kit has not been started.  The  
> box has been opened but all parts are in original parts bags and/or  
> wrappings.  The owners manual is REV A 10/10/03.  The serial number  
> may be 000100 if that's what that number on the box is?
>
> K2 - a very early kit which includes the following manuals:
>
> Rev A - 06/14/99
> REV C - 04/19/00  The original owner must have ordered the newer  
> ones later!
> REV E - 02/16/03
>
> The original owner sorted and checked all parts and has them in  
> boxes in envelopes identifying the contents of each.  A set of  
> prewound coils is in there too.  There is also a box identified as  
> "Revision B Components kit". In this kit components are all in  
> original bags or wrappings. It has a new serial number of 03309.   
> The original owner included a literal "mountain" of printed  
> messages from the various Elcraft reflectors.  The actual building  
> of the kit has not been started.  No soldering gun, wire cutters,  
> screw drivers etc have ever approached this kit! :-)  Frankly with  
> all the various changes that have occurred I would not know where  
> to start.
>
> Again thanks for the interest shown in this project.  For those who  
> needed more information before quoting a price let me know if what  
> I provided above is sufficient.  Those who inquired if I had  
> received their messages, be assured I did but the response has been  
> a bit overwhelming. For now I'm posting this to the reflector  
> rather than respond to each of you individually.
>
> 73,
> Puck, W4PM
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[Elecraft] Adieu

2009-07-25 Thread NG3V
It is with mixed emotions I bid the reflector a fond farewell.

 

For the past 4 years you have entertained my questions and provided
insightful answers and suggestions.

 

The K# community is unique in the world of amateur radio today.  No where is
so much help and inspiration available for free - in the true amateur
spirit.

 

I must admit, parting with 4991 was not as easy as I thought, but I know it
will prosper in its new home.

 

Alas, I have been co-opted by the dark forces and have once again ventured
into the realm of the rice box.

 

Perhaps there is a K# in my future - who knows?  I do know one thing, for
sure, you will take me back with nary a snicker.

 

73 and thanks for all the fish,

 

Tom, NG3V 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] LP PAN and "Point and Click"

2009-07-25 Thread Brett Howard
Here is one way to pull off what you want...  Use 2 PC's and 2 LP-PAN's
with your 2 K3's and then user Synergy to tie the two PCs together.  I
use this at work.  I have two monitors and two PC's (one running linux
and the other running windows) and I'm able to share one keyboard and
mouse between the two computers.  I can move my mouse from one monitor
to the other and which ever computer has the mouse cursor on the screen
is the one that gets the keyboard focus.  Its kinda complicated to
explain but if you see it in action it works like a single computer with
two displays except for the fact that there is a different computer
running each monitor.  They can both be windows boxes if you want to do
it that way and you would for running 2 LP Pan's.  You're of course
going to need two sound cards too...

~Brett

On Sat, 2009-07-25 at 16:26 -0400, E. Tichansky wrote:
> Julian, G4ILO wrote:
> > I'd be happier with a computer-based solution if the software ONLY gave you
> > the panoramic display. I want a standalone display that I can use alongside
> > the software of my choice but although I certainly understand the reasoning
> > of those who want one that will work without a PC I personally don't mind if
> > it is a standalone application. I can always buy a second monitor to display
> > it on if I want to. What I don't want or need is a whole screenful of
> > PowerSDR which was designed to be the front end to a fully computer
> > controlled radio not a "simple" panadapter.
> I would find a "hybrid" solution more useful, ie. stand-alone or capable 
> of interfacing w/ a PC.  The current problem I run into now is that 
> there is no "practical" way to run two LP-PANs (specifically PowerSDR) 
> on one PC, one for each of two K3s.  I've tested doing so w/ one 
> instance of PowerSDR in a VMware container, but additional bandwidth 
> limitations (virtual sound device), delays, et.al. are less than 
> optimum.  With two stand-alone units, there wouldn't be a particular 
> PC-related limitation, but then "point-and-click" may be lost.  Though, 
> as I understand it, there were plans to use a "tuning" knob on the front 
> panel with push capability to jump to K3 to the freq. were the on-screen 
> marker is located.
> 
> The Elecraft panadapter could take a couple directions as far as PC 
> integration.  1) Provide I/Q outputs to interface w/ the PC's soundcard, 
> or 2) Have a built-in USB sound device (ie. similar to some Microham 
> devices).  The latter would certainly increase costs, but would 
> eliminate the need to go out and purchase a high-end card; maybe include 
> it as an add-on option in the same style as everything else in the K3 realm.
> 
> Anyways, it will be interesting to see the product when it arrives.
> 
> Eric NO3M
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[Elecraft] W1 Circuit Board

2009-07-25 Thread David Heinsohn
  I just started working on the W1.  So I just really looked at the 
circuit board.  I noticed that the pads seem to be white rather than 
silver or gold.  So all you bright folks can tell me what's different 
and why.  I assume that this is a new and better way to produce a 
board.  It certanly takes solder OK.

TNX
de
KD0R
David

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Re: [Elecraft] W1 Circuit Board

2009-07-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
David,

I believe that is one version of the RoHS compliant solder pads.

73,
Don W3FPR

David Heinsohn wrote:
>   I just started working on the W1.  So I just really looked at the 
> circuit board.  I noticed that the pads seem to be white rather than 
> silver or gold.  So all you bright folks can tell me what's different 
> and why.  I assume that this is a new and better way to produce a 
> board.  It certanly takes solder OK.
>
> TNX
> de
> KD0R
> David
>   
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Adieu

2009-07-25 Thread H. Cary III
K2 #4991 has a new home. I missed #5266 and took Tom up on his sales offer. 
Glad to be back in the Elecraft family! 73, Cary, K4TM K2-4991

- Original Message -
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Sat Jul 25 18:54:48 2009
Subject: [Elecraft] Adieu

It is with mixed emotions I bid the reflector a fond farewell.

 

For the past 4 years you have entertained my questions and provided
insightful answers and suggestions.

 

The K# community is unique in the world of amateur radio today.  No where is
so much help and inspiration available for free - in the true amateur
spirit.

 

I must admit, parting with 4991 was not as easy as I thought, but I know it
will prosper in its new home.

 

Alas, I have been co-opted by the dark forces and have once again ventured
into the realm of the rice box.

 

Perhaps there is a K# in my future - who knows?  I do know one thing, for
sure, you will take me back with nary a snicker.

 

73 and thanks for all the fish,

 

Tom, NG3V 

 

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[Elecraft] TenTec tuning knob grip ring FS

2009-07-25 Thread Mark C. Killmon
For sale: Black TenTec 315 rubber ring for use on the main tuning knob of
the K3. I thought this was a direct fit, but it has to be placed over the
existing ring to fit, and it's not my cup of tea.

 

Be sure to take a look at these pictures before making your decision.

 

http://picasaweb.google.com/kfourso/TenTecTuningKnobRingForSale#536253481112
0954626

 

TenTec charges $10, plus $7.85 shipping. Okay, it was a weak moment, hi.
I'll priority mail it for $10 total (shipping and the ring). Drop me a check
and it's yours.

 

73, Mark

www.k4so.com

www.picasaweb.com/kfourso

kfourso.googlepages.com

 

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[Elecraft] TenTec tuning knob grip ring

2009-07-25 Thread Hector Padron
There is nothing wrong with the TT knob rubber grip ring.Mine arrived day 
before yesterday from TT,I payed $17 including shiping,it fits tight on my K3 
factory knob and now with the extra weight it spins faster and easier from one 
end to the other on the band,also it tunes smoother,I had a strange sound 
before when tune like shshshshshssh but now its gone with the adition of this 
ring,K4SO pictures are very clear but if you want to see how it look on mine go 
to qrz and see it.I think its a good buy after all.
 
AD4C


"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits".. 
-- Albert Einstein

--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Mark C. Killmon  wrote:


From: Mark C. Killmon 
Subject: [Elecraft] TenTec tuning knob grip ring FS
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 12:26 AM


For sale: Black TenTec 315 rubber ring for use on the main tuning knob of
the K3. I thought this was a direct fit, but it has to be placed over the
existing ring to fit, and it's not my cup of tea.



Be sure to take a look at these pictures before making your decision.



http://picasaweb.google.com/kfourso/TenTecTuningKnobRingForSale#536253481112
0954626



TenTec charges $10, plus $7.85 shipping. Okay, it was a weak moment, hi.
I'll priority mail it for $10 total (shipping and the ring). Drop me a check
and it's yours.



73, Mark

www.k4so.com

www.picasaweb.com/kfourso

kfourso.googlepages.com



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[Elecraft] K3 broken AF knob

2009-07-25 Thread Hector Padron
It was a common problem and it happened to me twice already but Elecraft took 
care of me and sent me two knobs,the last ones they sent me look like they are 
better,I have been using them for 6 months and no broken anymore,I am sure they 
will send you the new knobs.be sure when you have them not to tight to strong 
the liitle screw.
 
AD4C


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-- Albert Einstein

--- On Sat, 7/25/09, r miles  wrote:


From: r miles 
Subject: [Elecraft] broken AF knob
To: "elecraft" 
Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 10:32 PM


I've only had my K3 #2626 5 months. The AF knob loosened today. When I finally 
found an alan small enough to tighten it the knob split before it was even 
snugged up. Not cranked. Wasn't there a thread about this about the time I 
purchased my K3? Is this a common problem? Is there an improved knob available?
I just sent Elecraft an e mail so I hope to get their reply Monday.

K9IL
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Re: [Elecraft] Adieu

2009-07-25 Thread Doug Person
I've built a K1, a KX1, 2 K2's and 2 K3's.  Between each build was a 
period of interest in other rigs.  I just now finished my second K3. I 
always come back.  There's something about an Elecraft rig on the desk 
that provides a kind of satisfaction that somehow can't be easily 
defined nor easily satisfied with other radios.

Perhaps you'll find this to be true as well.

73, Doug -- K0DXV
 
NG3V wrote:
> It is with mixed emotions I bid the reflector a fond farewell.
>
>  
>
> For the past 4 years you have entertained my questions and provided
> insightful answers and suggestions.
>
>  
>
> The K# community is unique in the world of amateur radio today.  No where is
> so much help and inspiration available for free - in the true amateur
> spirit.
>
>  
>
> I must admit, parting with 4991 was not as easy as I thought, but I know it
> will prosper in its new home.
>
>  
>
> Alas, I have been co-opted by the dark forces and have once again ventured
> into the realm of the rice box.
>
>  
>
> Perhaps there is a K# in my future - who knows?  I do know one thing, for
> sure, you will take me back with nary a snicker.
>
>  
>
> 73 and thanks for all the fish,
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> Tom, NG3V 
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[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net Announcement

2009-07-25 Thread phils

Hi gang, 

The weelkly SSB net will be at 1800Z tomorrow (Sunday) on 14.316
MHz.  I will be away again, but Mark, K4SO, will be the net control. 
Have a good one.   

73, 

Phil, NS7P
 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] : Installing KBPF3 in the sub-receiver

2009-07-25 Thread James Sarte
You need to be able to remove the sub receiver shielding in order to install
the KBPF3, so it does have to come out.

BTW, that's where I have mine installed and not on the main.

73 de James K2QI

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Raymond METZGER
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:50 PM
To: supp...@elecraft.com
Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] : Installing KBPF3 in the sub-receiver


Hi Elecrafters,

I'm planning to perform most of the available enhancements on my K3/100
(#0615) with the objective of removing only once the KRX3 module. The
question I have : is it possible to install a KBPF3 module in the
subreceiver without removing the KRX3 module (provided, of course, that the
two KBPF3 1/2" standoffs are already mounted on the KRX3 board).

In the KBPF3 installation manual (Revision D - June 24, 2008), it is clearly
stated page 7 that "If your K3 is equipped with the optional KRX3
subreceiver, you must remove the subreceiver module to install the KBPF3 in
either the main receiver or the subreceiver."

Nevertheless, when I read the KRX3 assembly manual, I have the feeling that
it should be possible to install the KBPF3 module in the subreceiver without
removing the KRX3 module.

Could somebody clarify this issue ?

Thanks and 73,
de Raymond, F4FNT.




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[Elecraft] Max voltage for a KX1

2009-07-25 Thread Fred Jensen
Hi All,

I have acquired two loose 7.2V Li-Ion batteries, the result of the death 
of my Nikon Coolpix camera.  I replaced it, apparently fixing high tech 
stuff died with the TV Repair shops.  The batteries are just fine. 
Fully charged, they measure 7.45V each.  Can I series them to power my 
KX1?  That would be almost 15V, probably not for long, but at the start. 
  These guys weigh less than an 11.7V Li-Poly RC model battery, which 
would be good for me in the Spartan Sprints, more Q's/lb. I hate to 
throw them away.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2009 Cal QSO Party  3-4 Oct 2009
- www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] Need a kit recomendation (off topic a little)

2009-07-25 Thread James Sarte
I second the MFJ regenerative SW kit.  Nice little product at a reasonable
price!  

73 de James K2QI

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John H Gibson
Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 10:19 PM
To: Alan Price; Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need a kit recomendation (off topic a little)

Hi Alan,

Please consider MFJ's 8100K regenerative receiver kit. It provides
reasonable 
shortwave performance, and its regeneration control can be adjusted for ssb 
and cw reception. The radio's open layout makes it a good kit for beginners,

and the $80 price includes a nice case. The kit assembly even requires the 
winding of one toroid.

I used to teach an "Introduction to Radio" course for liberal arts students,
most 
of whom had never before seen a soldering iron. They had a ball building
these 
radios, and the few radios that did not work when first turned on were easy
to 
troubleshoot.

73,
John, no8v

 Original message 
>Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 08:45:05 -0700
>From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net (on behalf of Alan Price 
)
>Subject: [Elecraft] Need a kit recomendation (off topic a little)  
>To: Elecraft 
>
>
>I purchased an AM radio kit for my five year old grandson.  It was a piece
of 
#...@#$%!  Did not even work when I completed it.  Does anyone know of a simple

radio kit (like the old Heath crystal radio kit) that is of decent quality?
He was so 
disappointed, I was also.  He loves to listen while make HF contacts using
my 
K3.  
> 
>73
>Alan
>W1HYV
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Re: [Elecraft] Max voltage for a KX1

2009-07-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
Fred,

The KX1 DC voltage spec is 15 volts, so yes, that should work FB.

73,
Don W3FPR

Fred Jensen wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have acquired two loose 7.2V Li-Ion batteries, the result of the death 
> of my Nikon Coolpix camera.  I replaced it, apparently fixing high tech 
> stuff died with the TV Repair shops.  The batteries are just fine. 
> Fully charged, they measure 7.45V each.  Can I series them to power my 
> KX1?  That would be almost 15V, probably not for long, but at the start. 
>   These guys weigh less than an 11.7V Li-Poly RC model battery, which 
> would be good for me in the Spartan Sprints, more Q's/lb. I hate to 
> throw them away.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2009 Cal QSO Party  3-4 Oct 2009
> - www.cqp.org
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Re: [Elecraft] Need a kit recomendation (off topic a little)

2009-07-25 Thread Don Wilhelm
While I agree that a regen kit would be a good receiver, remember that 
this is for a 5 year old, and a regen receiver requires 'two handed' 
tuning - one hand on the VFO knob and another on the regen control.  A 5 
year old needs a single control receiver IMHO.

73,
Don W3FPR

James Sarte wrote:
> I second the MFJ regenerative SW kit.  Nice little product at a reasonable
> price!  
>
> 73 de James K2QI
>   
>
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[Elecraft] TenTec tuning knob grip ring SOLD

2009-07-25 Thread Mark C. Killmon
Thanks to those who inquired (and the buyer, of course.)

 

73, Mark

www.k4so.com

www.picasaweb.com/kfourso

kfourso.googlepages.com

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Need a kit recomendation (off topic a little)

2009-07-25 Thread James Sarte
Good point Don, I hadn't thought of that. But then again, this kit could
double up as a motor-skill improvement device for the little one.

James K2QI

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 10:47 PM
To: James Sarte
Cc: gib...@alma.edu; 'Alan Price'; 'Elecraft'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need a kit recomendation (off topic a little)

While I agree that a regen kit would be a good receiver, remember that 
this is for a 5 year old, and a regen receiver requires 'two handed' 
tuning - one hand on the VFO knob and another on the regen control.  A 5 
year old needs a single control receiver IMHO.

73,
Don W3FPR

James Sarte wrote:
> I second the MFJ regenerative SW kit.  Nice little product at a reasonable
> price!  
>
> 73 de James K2QI
>   
>

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Re: [Elecraft] New K1 on the way - Band Module Questions

2009-07-25 Thread Mike Morrow
Sandy wrote, and the information supplied by Elecract seems to imply, that:

>The 4 band board can be only used on 40/30/20 and 17 OR 15 meters.

This board is actually more flexible.  It can be used on 40m, 30m, and ANY two
of the 20m, 17m, and 15m bands.  The assumption that Elecraft makes
was that nobody would ever choose not to use 20m.  If that is valid, then
likely very few would choose 17m over 15m either.

>That's the way it's designed and your only option is whether the topmost band
>will be 17 or 15 meters.

The real choice is which of the 20m, 17m, and 15m bands you will select to 
assign
to the *two* top bands.   The common elliptical filter for 40m can be used for 
30m
since the highest frequency that will be passed is less than two times the 
lowest
frequency.  Similarly, the other elliptical filter on the four-band board can 
be used for
ANY combination of 20m, 17m, and 15m, because no frequency the filter will pass 
will
be greater than twice the lowest frequency that it will pass, for those bands.

It makes *no* technical sense to select a two-band board for two of the five 
bands
that the four-band board can support.  The four-band board has much better
filtering than does the two-band board.  The two-band board is inferior in 
performance
on any band that is available on the four-band version.  The only advantage of 
the
two-band board is that it is cheaper (for good reason) than the four-band board,
if the four-band board covers the two bands in which the builder is interested. 
 The *only*
technical advantage of the two-band board is that it can be built for the bands 
that
the four-band board doesn't cover.

I built my four-band board for 40/30/20/15m, and re-built an old two-band board 
for
80/17m.  That covers all six "official" bands supplied by Elecraft for the K1.

The four-band board offers the happy coincidence of double the band coverage,
with better RF performance on those bands, compared to the two-band board. 
Elecraft should make note of that to customers who initially choose a two-band 
board for bands that the four-band version covers.

Mike / KK5F
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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2009-07-25 Thread Kevin Rock
Good Evening,
   Weather has been steady this week, very unusual.  Fairly warm but Monday, 
Tuesday, and Wednesday will be hot with temperatures near 100 degrees.  The 
fire crews have been driving by twice a day for the last week.  Fire danger is 
rising rapidly.  
   I took about a day to straighten out the antennas.  Both of the HF antennas 
were brought down last winter and have been limping along on temporary repairs. 
 Now they are both up again and free from limbs.  One of them is in an inverted 
V configuration while the other, longer one, is a flat top doublet at ~70 feet 
favoring E-W propagation.  Tomorrow I will flip between them so I can work more 
of you.  The solar wind is down a little but who knows what will happen 
tomorrow?  

Please join us tomorrow evening.
 
1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP  help)

Sunday 2300z (Sunday 4 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0100z (Sunday 6 PM PDT)  7045 kHz

   Stay well,
  Kevin.  KD5ONS

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[Elecraft] K3 and SDR-IQ during IOTA Video

2009-07-25 Thread Bob
Just for fun and the interest of those curious about the K3, I posted a
video showing the K3 in minor action during this weekend's IOTA contest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgd2KsDS4uI 73 Bob VE3UK
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Re: [Elecraft] Li-ion battery pack for KBT2, K2

2009-07-25 Thread Leigh L. Klotz, Jr WA5ZNU
Johnny,
Some have done this, but the Li+ cells are prone to catch fire, so it's 
risky.  SLA is well understood and less risky.
They can catch fire when over charged, of course, but also when 
over-discharged.

Some people are reporting the A123-manufactured Lithium Nano-Phosphate 
cells are safer than the Li+ and LiPoly.
They don't catch fire when over-discharged, for example. 

Unfortunately, they don't quite fit in the K2 battery case, at least now 
in a way I can figure.  There are also non-A123 brand LiFePO4 cells 
which you should be able to get in HK easily.  These are 3.4v and a 
better fit (4*3.4=13.6, max 14.4v) for 12v radio electronics than the 
~16VDC full charge of Li+.  They are thought to be safer than the Li+ 
cells, but the no-name brands don't necessarily have the same testing as 
A123 brand, so again it's more of a risk than SLA, though less of a risk 
than Li+.

LiFePO4/A123 have excellent power density, and can source 60 amps 
easily, so they must be fused close to the pack.
They don't have as good energy density as the Li+ technology, but with 
the K2 that's less of an issue since its RX draw is so low.

Leigh/WA5ZNU
> Hello Group,
>
> Rechargable Li-ion 3.7v cells are now very cheap ($4 for a 1,500maH cell) and 
> easily available in Hong Kong.   I am thinking to use them to replace the 
> Lead Acid cell of the KBT2.  This will make the K2 less heavy and give more 
> battery power for longer operation time.  K2 will then be more suitable for 
> field day.
>
> Are there any articles in this forum covering this issue before? Or, where 
> can I find the necessary information for such an installation?
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> Johnny Siu VR2XMC
>
>   

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