[Elecraft] Higher SWR When Using Amp.

2010-11-15 Thread pastormg2

I have noticed when I fired up my amplifier on 40 meters that the SWR reading 
on the K3 when I tune up is higher then when I tune up on standby.  But what is 
really odd is on my External Wattmeter the SWR is the same when the amp is 
active versus standby. On standby my SWR on 40 meter SSB is 1.0 to 1.  When I 
tune the Amp it goes up to 1.6 to 1.  I realize that it isn't that high but 
just would like to know if there is an explanation as to why this occurs.  Mark 
KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] Higher SWR When Using Amp.

2010-11-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Mark,

Where do you have your external wattmeter?  On the output side of the 
amp?  If so, then your external wattmeter and the K3 are reading the SWR 
of your antenna system when the amp is on standby.  When you put the 
amplifier in-line, the K3 will read the input of the amplifier.  In the 
meantime your external wattmeter is still reading the antenna system, 
and should not be expected to change.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/15/2010 6:43 AM, pastor...@verizon.net wrote:
 I have noticed when I fired up my amplifier on 40 meters that the SWR reading 
 on the K3 when I tune up is higher then when I tune up on standby.  But what 
 is really odd is on my External Wattmeter the SWR is the same when the amp is 
 active versus standby. On standby my SWR on 40 meter SSB is 1.0 to 1.  When I 
 tune the Amp it goes up to 1.6 to 1.  I realize that it isn't that high but 
 just would like to know if there is an explanation as to why this occurs.  
 Mark KB3Z

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[Elecraft] HIGHER SWR WHEN AMP IS ON LINE

2010-11-15 Thread Hector Padron
And Mark that means your amp tuned input circuit is not properly tuned to 50 
ohms,that is why your K3 will see a higher swr when the amp is on line,you have 
two choices,one to enable the K3 builtin tuner if you have it installed,second 
tune the amp input circuit properly to let the K3 see a lower swr closer to 1.
 
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[Elecraft] K3 LPF add-on filter

2010-11-15 Thread James Sarte
Good morning Elecrafters!

It's been some time now since the K3 LPF add-on filter board was released.
I've been contemplating purchasing one since its debut as I've noticed in
the past hi-frequency DSP artifiacts, especially when listening with
headphones.  However, as time passed and firmware improved, I don't seem to
hear so many of the things I thought I heard before.  Perhaps my hearing has
changed as well - who knows?

So, with that said - what are people's opinions now on the LPF module?  Is
it still worth the purchase?  Can a noticeable difference be heard,
particularly on SSB with the filter installed?

Finally, for those who performed the install themselves, what did you use to
cut the two traces?  Will a box cutter work or should I use a dremel cutting
wheel?

Tnx,
James

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Re: [Elecraft] closing signature (was: HIGHER SWR)

2010-11-15 Thread tuxman
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 06:02 -0800, Hector Padron wrote:
 
 AD4C
  
 
 If you see a driver handling a cell phone on her/his hands while driving,do 
 please stay away from that vehicle,its a moving bomb.Your life is at 
 danger.Keep yourself and your family alive
 

Please define stay away. 
Do you drive off the road onto a sidewalk or driveway??
As a pedestrian, do you run into a yard?

The better suggestion is:  Sound horn! This gets their attention back to
reality.

Sorry about the off topic. 
Couldn't help it.
I like to see all hams on the air -not SK by a cell phone.

72
Ron, wb1hga
how much deeper would the ocean be without sponges?

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread James Sarte
I had the chance to look at the FTDX5000's manual last night, as I was
curious to see how the rig could be connected to a computer for digital
modes.  I had almost forgotten what a pain it was to hook up my FT840 to a
PC, and I see with the FTDX5000, not much has changed.  In order to connect
to the computer and use something like DM780, one would need to purchase a
separate TNC.

I'm surprised that Yaesu still insisted on using a proprietary interface
requiring a special connector.  At least the new Icom's can pass rig
commands and audio via their built-in USB ports.  I would have assumed that
Yaesu would have followed suit, but I guess not.

It suddenly occurred to me how well designed the K3 really is, especially if
one purchases the KIO3 module.  No mess, no fuss, no external boxes and
settings to deal with.  It's as close to plug-and-play as one can get.  All
I needed to interface the K3 with my computer was 2 stereo cables for line
in and line out, and an RS232 straight cable for rig control.

In a word - brilliant!

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 LPF add-on filter

2010-11-15 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
James,

I recently installed the LPF myself. I cut the traces with my 
pocketknife. Nothing to it, just be careful.
Soldering the filter was easy,  after I cleaned up the via-holes.

About the sound: The K3 sounds great with it. I THINK it sounds better 
than before (i use a heil headset).
Proof for what it's worht: I find myself listening with the the headset  
more than before.

(BTW, besides the headset I have two reasonable cheap Trust Soundwave 
Dynamic speakers for  filling the shack with audio.)

73,
Arie PA3A


Op 15-11-2010 16:25, James Sarte schreef:
 ---
 So, with that said - what are people's opinions now on the LPF module?  Is
 it still worth the purchase?  Can a noticeable difference be heard,
 particularly on SSB with the filter installed?

 Finally, for those who performed the install themselves, what did you use to
 cut the two traces?  Will a box cutter work or should I use a dremel cutting
 wheel?

 Tnx,
 James

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Re: [Elecraft] Higher SWR When Using Amp.

2010-11-15 Thread WILLIS COOKE
Mark, when you tune your amp you are reading the input impedance of the amp 
SWR, 
not the antenna SWR.  The only way that your external SWR meter and the 
transceiver SWR meter should match is if the external meter is between the amp 
and the transceiver.  Even then, the SWR meters available to us are not 
precision instruments and are usually 5 to 10% of the max reading, so a 2kw 
watt 
meter could read 200 watts in error and still be in tolerance for an 
inexpensive 
meter.  The better meters could be 100 watts in error, so the error can equal 
or 
exceed the output of the transceiver.  If the 1.6 bothers you, you can adjust 
the input impedance matching circuit of the amplifier and perhaps reduce it, or 
you can activate your antenna tuner on your transceiver if you have one.  You 
can also expect the SWR to change some as you tune your amp.  If you have an 
old 
amp from the tube final days when the transceivers all had a pi network to 
match 
the amp, such as my Dentron Clipperton L, you may not even have an input 
matching circuit.  I use the tuner in my K3 to match the input of the 
Clipperton.  I don[t think you have anything to worry about.
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
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From: pastor...@verizon.net pastor...@verizon.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 5:43:49 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Higher SWR When Using Amp.


I have noticed when I fired up my amplifier on 40 meters that the SWR reading 
on 
the K3 when I tune up is higher then when I tune up on standby.  But what is 
really odd is on my External Wattmeter the SWR is the same when the amp is 
active versus standby. On standby my SWR on 40 meter SSB is 1.0 to 1.  When I 
tune the Amp it goes up to 1.6 to 1.  I realize that it isn't that high but 
just 
would like to know if there is an explanation as to why this occurs.  Mark KB3Z
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF

2010-11-15 Thread WILLIS COOKE

Igor, wouldn't you expect to find the Audio Peaking Filter in the Audio 
Frequency section?
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
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From: Igor Kosvin k.i...@comcast.net
To: Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 9:12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF

I beg to differ. The TS-930S APF works pretty good in combination with
narrow (500Hz) set of filters in 2nd and 3rd IF. The problematic part is
that as far as I recall in TS-930s the APF is in AF, which is little too
late to correct other shortcomings of the receiver.

73,
Igor  


  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 LPF add-on filter

2010-11-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 So, with that said - what are people's opinions now on the LPF
 module? Is it still worth the purchase? Can a noticeable difference
 be heard, particularly on SSB with the filter installed?

Absolutely worthwhile.  Much smoother sound and dramatic reduction
of both 12 KHz clock as well as other artifacts above 4.5 KHz.

 Finally, for those who performed the install themselves, what did
 youuse to cut the two traces?

Xacto knife/scalpel works fine with more precision than a box cutter.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 11/15/2010 10:25 AM, James Sarte wrote:
 Good morning Elecrafters!

 It's been some time now since the K3 LPF add-on filter board was released.
 I've been contemplating purchasing one since its debut as I've noticed in
 the past hi-frequency DSP artifiacts, especially when listening with
 headphones.  However, as time passed and firmware improved, I don't seem to
 hear so many of the things I thought I heard before.  Perhaps my hearing has
 changed as well - who knows?

 So, with that said - what are people's opinions now on the LPF module?  Is
 it still worth the purchase?  Can a noticeable difference be heard,
 particularly on SSB with the filter installed?

 Finally, for those who performed the install themselves, what did you use to
 cut the two traces?  Will a box cutter work or should I use a dremel cutting
 wheel?

 Tnx,
 James

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 I'm surprised that Yaesu still insisted on using a proprietary interface
 requiring a special connector.

The FT-990/1000/2000/5000/9000 PKT input with a standard DIN 5 is
hardly proprietary.  Other than the DIN 5 that has been around
for many years - the PKT jack is not functionally different than
the KIO3 with its 2 x 3.5mm jacks for audio and DB15HD for PTT.

Some of the other new Yaesu (FT-450/8x7/950) rigs have adopted the
mini-DIN6 DATA jack that has become an amateur industry standard.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 11/15/2010 10:51 AM, James Sarte wrote:
 I had the chance to look at the FTDX5000's manual last night, as I was
 curious to see how the rig could be connected to a computer for digital
 modes.  I had almost forgotten what a pain it was to hook up my FT840 to a
 PC, and I see with the FTDX5000, not much has changed.  In order to connect
 to the computer and use something like DM780, one would need to purchase a
 separate TNC.

 I'm surprised that Yaesu still insisted on using a proprietary interface
 requiring a special connector.  At least the new Icom's can pass rig
 commands and audio via their built-in USB ports.  I would have assumed that
 Yaesu would have followed suit, but I guess not.

 It suddenly occurred to me how well designed the K3 really is, especially if
 one purchases the KIO3 module.  No mess, no fuss, no external boxes and
 settings to deal with.  It's as close to plug-and-play as one can get.  All
 I needed to interface the K3 with my computer was 2 stereo cables for line
 in and line out, and an RS232 straight cable for rig control.

 In a word - brilliant!

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 LPF add-on filter

2010-11-15 Thread James Sarte
Thanks for the feedback.

I just spoke to Vicky at Elecraft.  I placed my order for the LPF board,
plus two of the K3 synthesizer stiffener kits.  I figured since I'm
replacing the defective RFC4 choke on the main board, I might as well bring
the K3 up to date.

Mni tnx,
James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


  So, with that said - what are people's opinions now on the LPF
  module? Is it still worth the purchase? Can a noticeable difference
  be heard, particularly on SSB with the filter installed?

 Absolutely worthwhile.  Much smoother sound and dramatic reduction
 of both 12 KHz clock as well as other artifacts above 4.5 KHz.

  Finally, for those who performed the install themselves, what did
  youuse to cut the two traces?

 Xacto knife/scalpel works fine with more precision than a box cutter.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread James Sarte
Thanks for pointing that out Joe.  I should probably have used a better
word.  By proprietary, I was simply meaning that it's not as common an
interface as an RS232 port, and two 3.5mm audio jacks.  Almost everyone has
stereo patch cables and perhaps a straight DB9 serial cable laying around.
Not many might have a DIN 5 plug.  At least I don't. :)

73,
James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


  I'm surprised that Yaesu still insisted on using a proprietary interface
  requiring a special connector.

 The FT-990/1000/2000/5000/9000 PKT input with a standard DIN 5 is
 hardly proprietary.  Other than the DIN 5 that has been around
 for many years - the PKT jack is not functionally different than
 the KIO3 with its 2 x 3.5mm jacks for audio and DB15HD for PTT.

 Some of the other new Yaesu (FT-450/8x7/950) rigs have adopted the
 mini-DIN6 DATA jack that has become an amateur industry standard.

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 LPF add-on filter

2010-11-15 Thread Joe Planisky
Hi James,

It's been some time since I bought and installed the LPF, and since  
it's not something you can put in and take out easily I can't comment  
on whether later firmware changes have reduced high frequency  
artifacts. The artifacts I was hearing back then were the aliased  
audio around the 12 kHz D/A clock, which the LPF pretty much knocked  
out.

The difference when I installed the filter was subtle, but noticeable;  
I still have SOME hearing left in the 12 kHz range :-)  I would say  
it's worth installing if either you hear the high frequency artifacts  
and they bother you, or you just want to keep your rig up-to-date with  
the latest mods, perhaps for resale reasons down the road.

Installation is pretty straight forward.  A sharp knife will do to cut  
the traces, I don't think you should get in there with a Dremel tool.   
One twitch and you could do a lot of damage.  I used an Xacto knife  
with a new blade and it was almost disturbing how easily the traces  
were cut!

73
--
Joe KB8AP

On Nov 15, 2010, at 7:25 AM, James Sarte wrote:

 Good morning Elecrafters!

 It's been some time now since the K3 LPF add-on filter board was  
 released.
 I've been contemplating purchasing one since its debut as I've  
 noticed in
 the past hi-frequency DSP artifiacts, especially when listening with
 headphones.  However, as time passed and firmware improved, I don't  
 seem to
 hear so many of the things I thought I heard before.  Perhaps my  
 hearing has
 changed as well - who knows?

 So, with that said - what are people's opinions now on the LPF  
 module?  Is
 it still worth the purchase?  Can a noticeable difference be heard,
 particularly on SSB with the filter installed?

 Finally, for those who performed the install themselves, what did  
 you use to
 cut the two traces?  Will a box cutter work or should I use a dremel  
 cutting
 wheel?

 Tnx,
 James

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Don Cunningham
James,
As Joe said, the Din 5 plug has been around a LONG time.  I first used itin 
the late 1970's with my old Radio Shack Model I computer!!  It is a well 
made device, easily soldered even for those of us with impaired vision.  I 
have a cheater pigtail built for each of my rigs so the old HAL RTTY TU 
only needs to see an RCA on each end.  Works well for an old guy, hi.
73,
Don, WB5HAK 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread KW4H
Not to be deliberately crass, but I have absolutely no use for a $6,000+
radio -- contesting or not.  Like most hams, this is a hobby I do for fun,
and spending that kind of money on a transceiver is virtually unthinkable.
For the price of that rig, I could buy some new living room furniture and
take the XYL on a two week Caribbean cruise.

73!

Steve, KW4H
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread James Sarte
I stand corrected!

I don't think I've ever had something that used a DIN 5 plug... not sure
about my FT-840; that was a long time ago.

73,
James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Don Cunningham wb5...@martineer.netwrote:

 James,
 As Joe said, the Din 5 plug has been around a LONG time.  I first used itin
 the late 1970's with my old Radio Shack Model I computer!!  It is a well
 made device, easily soldered even for those of us with impaired vision.  I
 have a cheater pigtail built for each of my rigs so the old HAL RTTY TU
 only needs to see an RCA on each end.  Works well for an old guy, hi.
 73,
 Don, WB5HAK




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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

  not sure about my FT-840; that was a long time ago.

FT-840 had no provision for AFSK (no PACKET jack or Patch jack).

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 11/15/2010 12:05 PM, James Sarte wrote:
 I stand corrected!

 I don't think I've ever had something that used a DIN 5 plug... not sure
 about my FT-840; that was a long time ago.

 73,
 James K2QI

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Don Cunninghamwb5...@martineer.netwrote:

 James,
 As Joe said, the Din 5 plug has been around a LONG time.  I first used itin
 the late 1970's with my old Radio Shack Model I computer!!  It is a well
 made device, easily soldered even for those of us with impaired vision.  I
 have a cheater pigtail built for each of my rigs so the old HAL RTTY TU
 only needs to see an RCA on each end.  Works well for an old guy, hi.
 73,
 Don, WB5HAK




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[Elecraft] Still no tx or rx on new K3

2010-11-15 Thread Bob Henderson
Bob

I had a similar experience for a few minutes during set-up of my new K3.  In
my case I had not installed a roofing filter at FL1, choosing instead to
leave a gap there for later installation of a wider filter.  The firmware
default assumes a filter will be present at FL1 and the absence of one made
the RX deaf and provided 0W RF out on TX.  Once I had changed the default
filter location, which I did using the Elecraft K3 utility, the RX came to
life and TX Gain Cal ran just fine producing the required 5W output on every
band.

This might possibly be your problem.

Good luck.

Bob, 5B4AGN
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread James Sarte
LOL.. maybe that's why I had such a hard time interfacing it.  If memory
serves, I think I ordered a kit TNC called TiniCAT or something like that.
It worked OK; didn't really function well with HRD though.

James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com wrote:


   not sure about my FT-840; that was a long time ago.

 FT-840 had no provision for AFSK (no PACKET jack or Patch jack).

 73,

... Joe, W4TV


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[Elecraft] Elecraft Covers has a new ISP/address

2010-11-15 Thread Rose
Rose has a new e-mail provider / ISP that appears to
be free of the problems related to her old service, which
was often black-listed or blocked by other carriers.

Many messages, both to and from her, simply vanished.
If you've not had a response to an inquiry, please try again.

Lisa and Eric at have updated the Elecraft site to reflect
the new contact information.

73!

Rose - N7HKW
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[Elecraft] Elecraft Covers has a new address

2010-11-15 Thread Rose









I have a new ISP and e-mail provider that appears to be free of the
problems related to my old service, which was often black-listed or
blocked by some carriers.

Many messages, both to and from me, simply vanished.  If you've
not had a response to an inquiry, please try again.

Lisa and Eric at have updated the Elecraft site to reflect the new
contact information.

73!

Rose - N7HKW
elecraftcov...@gmail.com

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[Elecraft] New List guideline - Please include name and callsign on all postings

2010-11-15 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Hi,

We've just added the following to the Official Elecraft List Guidelines:

In the interest of maintaining an environment of collegiality and easy 
user id, please include your callsign (if you have one) and your name in 
all postings to the Elecraft list. This can either be done as part of 
your email 'from' address or at the end of your posting.

Our goal with this list is to maintain a friendly atmosphere where 
everyone gets to know one another and corresponds respectfully.

The majority of posts already follow this guideline. We appreciate 
everyone doing this. It will help maintain the Elecraft list as the 
friendly 'goto' place for both Elecraft product and overall ham radio 
information.

73,
Eric WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator

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Re: [Elecraft] Still no tx or rx on new K3

2010-11-15 Thread Robert Redmon
Bob

I certainly could have done that. In fact, before I powered it up the 
first time, I had done the same thing, but when I ran the K3 Utility, I 
corrected my error. Thanks for the suggestion. To all: I am working with 
Wayne and Gary currently trying to chase down the problem. Thanks 
everyone for your suggestions and good wishes.

Bob

On 11/15/2010 11:25 AM, Bob Henderson wrote:
 Bob

 I had a similar experience for a few minutes during set-up of my new K3.  In
 my case I had not installed a roofing filter at FL1, choosing instead to
 leave a gap there for later installation of a wider filter.  The firmware
 default assumes a filter will be present at FL1 and the absence of one made
 the RX deaf and provided 0W RF out on TX.  Once I had changed the default
 filter location, which I did using the Elecraft K3 utility, the RX came to
 life and TX Gain Cal ran just fine producing the required 5W output on every
 band.

 This might possibly be your problem.

 Good luck.

 Bob, 5B4AGN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF

2010-11-15 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
K3 ain't your daddy's analog radio...

Incoming signals are handled as analog signals until they are
converted to a 15 kHz IF.  At that point the analog is converted to
digital.  All the rest is done in firmware as part of the number soup.
 Calling firmware functions IF or AF is really a misnomer.  All the
neat stuff is done BEFORE the number soup is converted to an actual AF
voltage. APF number soup, NR digital soup, DSP number soup...

I suppose you could say that some of the numbers were AF numbers and
some of them were IF numbers?

73, Guy


On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:19 AM, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Igor, wouldn't you expect to find the Audio Peaking Filter in the Audio
 Frequency section?
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke
 K5EWJ




 
 From: Igor Kosvin k.i...@comcast.net
 To: Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Sun, November 14, 2010 9:12:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF

 I beg to differ. The TS-930S APF works pretty good in combination with
 narrow (500Hz) set of filters in 2nd and 3rd IF. The problematic part is
 that as far as I recall in TS-930s the APF is in AF, which is little too
 late to correct other shortcomings of the receiver.

 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Pete Smith
Perhas best not on Carnival...

73, Pete N4ZR

The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com
The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at 
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spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000


On 11/15/2010 12:01 PM, KW4H wrote:
 Not to be deliberately crass, but I have absolutely no use for a $6,000+
 radio -- contesting or not.  Like most hams, this is a hobby I do for fun,
 and spending that kind of money on a transceiver is virtually unthinkable.
 For the price of that rig, I could buy some new living room furniture and
 take the XYL on a two week Caribbean cruise.

 73!

 Steve, KW4H
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread James Sarte
Well, I would certainly hope that if one had the disposable income to buy an
FTDX5000, he would also have the resources to take care of the family.

My K3 was slightly north of $4k after all was said and done.  To many
others, that might seem exorbitant.  Anyway, it's all relative.

The important thing to keep in mind is priorities.  I'd certainly frown upon
someone who goes out to buy any expensive item and then not have the money
to feed the kids, take care of the YL, etc. etc.

This is after all, just a hobby.

Cheers,
James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM, KW4H k...@arrl.net wrote:

 Not to be deliberately crass, but I have absolutely no use for a $6,000+
 radio -- contesting or not.  Like most hams, this is a hobby I do for fun,
 and spending that kind of money on a transceiver is virtually unthinkable.
 For the price of that rig, I could buy some new living room furniture and
 take the XYL on a two week Caribbean cruise.

 73!

 Steve, KW4H


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Re: [Elecraft] Higher SWR When Using Amp.

2010-11-15 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/15/2010 3:43 AM, pastor...@verizon.net wrote:
 I have noticed when I fired up my amplifier on 40 meters that the SWR reading 
 on the K3 when I tune up is higher then when I tune up on standby.
When a rig drives an amp, it does not see the antenna, it sees the 
input circuit of the power amp. When the amp is in bypass mode (that is, 
not in the OPERATE mode), your rig DOES see the antenna. What you are 
seeing  is some mismatch between the K3 and the power amp, which is the 
result of the input circuit of the power amp not being a perfect match 
to 50 ohms. This is QUITE NORMAL for most power amps. You should only 
worry about this if that SWR is much more than about 2:1. Most rigs, 
including the K3, will fold back (reduce power) to protect themselves 
if the SWR gets too high.

As long as the K3 provides enough power to drive the amp to the desired 
output level, don't worry about it.  With some amps, you can engage the 
K3's antenna tuner and tune it to provide a better match. That depends a 
bit on how the amp is being keyed.  It is also common for the mismatch 
to vary from one band to another, and from one place on the band to 
another.  In most power amps, the input circuit includes some form of 
bandpass filter.

73, Jim Brown K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread N8LP

The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of LP-PAN.
They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than I can say
for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on their latest
offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme I have
seen in a long time.

Larry N8LP



Craig D. Smith wrote:
 
 I read and enjoyed the review.  It looks like a very good product, and
 will
 no doubt sell well - as it should.
 
 For me the only advantage it would have over my K3/P3 is the integrated
 200
 W capability and integrated power supply with  12V power - both nice
 features.  But I wouldn't consider buying one, the deal breakers being:
 size/weight, audible QSK relay and single color panadapter w/o waterfall.
 Not to mention the more intangibles, such as ease of firmware updates and
 ability to do 80% of the servicing myself.  Close, but no cigar  ;)
 
 73  Craig  AC0DS
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 noise blanker

2010-11-15 Thread Brian Murrey

Ron...what a great question.  If there is a way, I sure have not figured it
out yet. 

73


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Hector Padron
Well Steve,some guys takes hamradio very seriously and in spite of we can do 
better with a less than 3 grands K3,I know a guy who wanted deeply to own an 
IC-7800 but did not had that amount of cash,so what he did he waited till he 
payed off his last new car and then using a credit card he payed the 10 grands 
to purchase him a brand new IC-7800 that made feel very happy,and guess what 
even he is still paying montly the CC bills,he has never left his whole family 
out of anything,he can afford well his home bills with no problems,he has a 
healthy happy family and they all love him,and the best of all,he is a happy 
owner of a $10K radio in spite of it will take him 3 to 4 years to pay it 
off.Life in this country is for everybody so far you can pay your debts.
 
Hector
AD4C

If you see a driver handling a cell phone on her/his hands while driving,do 
please stay away from that vehicle,its a moving bomb.Your life is at 
danger.Keep yourself and your family alive

--- On Mon, 11/15/10, James Sarte k2qi@gmail.com wrote:


From: James Sarte k2qi@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
To: KW4H k...@arrl.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Monday, November 15, 2010, 8:04 PM


Well, I would certainly hope that if one had the disposable income to buy an
FTDX5000, he would also have the resources to take care of the family.

My K3 was slightly north of $4k after all was said and done.  To many
others, that might seem exorbitant.  Anyway, it's all relative.

The important thing to keep in mind is priorities.  I'd certainly frown upon
someone who goes out to buy any expensive item and then not have the money
to feed the kids, take care of the YL, etc. etc.

This is after all, just a hobby.

Cheers,
James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 12:01 PM, KW4H k...@arrl.net wrote:

 Not to be deliberately crass, but I have absolutely no use for a $6,000+
 radio -- contesting or not.  Like most hams, this is a hobby I do for fun,
 and spending that kind of money on a transceiver is virtually unthinkable.
 For the price of that rig, I could buy some new living room furniture and
 take the XYL on a two week Caribbean cruise.

 73!

 Steve, KW4H


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread James Sarte
This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:

For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB modes
down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband is 2.7kHz or
less

So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz, the
receiver switches to upconversion?!?

James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP n...@telepostinc.com wrote:


 The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
 panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of LP-PAN.
 They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than I can say
 for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on their latest
 offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme I have
 seen in a long time.

 Larry N8LP



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[Elecraft] 8 pole filter price change

2010-11-15 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
INRAD has increased the price to us on the 8 pole K3 filters they custom 
manufacture for us. This has been a long time coming as their costs have 
increased significantly over the past 2 years.  We've been lucky to get 
them to hold off this long.

Starting this Wednesday, Nov 17, all 8-pole K3 filters will increase by 
$5.00 to $130.95 on our on-line order form. Orders received prior to 
then will be at the current price.

Our 5 pole filters remain at $99.95.

73, Eric   WA6HHQ
www.elecraft.com



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Larry Phipps
  'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12, 10 or 6m.

Larry N8LP


On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
 This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:

 For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB 
 modes down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband 
 is 2.7kHz or less

 So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz, 
 the receiver switches to upconversion?!?

 James K2QI

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP n...@telepostinc.com 
 mailto:n...@telepostinc.com wrote:


 The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
 panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of
 LP-PAN.
 They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than
 I can say
 for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on
 their latest
 offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme
 I have
 seen in a long time.

 Larry N8LP




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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Wes Stewart
Well, since I already took the XYL on a 2-week Alaskan cruise in August, I 
guess I'm good to go for the FT5000 :-)

But I won't.  I know I'm in the minority here, but if they took the second 
receiver out and lowered the cost accordingly, it would have more appeal.  I 
appreciate the TX IMD, except that keying waveform and resulting spectrum 
sucks.  I could do without the panadapter since the SDR-IQ as I use on the K3 
suits my needs. The FT5000 size is more my cup of tea though.

I'm old enough to remember when the first new car I bought (also a Pontiac) 
stickered at $1,800, so $6K for a radio sounds like a lot of dough. But that 
was before the $100 bill became the new twenty and it was then half a year's 
salary. 

To put things in perspective, I paid $2,200 for my TS-870 over 10 years ago and 
I still have it, and I wouldn't sell it for less than half that.  So on a cost 
per year basis, it's not much.  I don't play golf, so I'm entitled to at least 
one other indulgence. 

Regards,

Wes Stewart, N7WS


--- On Mon, 11/15/10, KW4H k...@arrl.net wrote:

 Not to be deliberately crass, but I
 have absolutely no use for a $6,000+
 radio -- contesting or not.  Like most hams, this is a
 hobby I do for fun,
 and spending that kind of money on a transceiver is
 virtually unthinkable.
 For the price of that rig, I could buy some new living room
 furniture and
 take the XYL on a two week Caribbean cruise.
 
 73!
 
 Steve, KW4H



  
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Re: [Elecraft] New List guideline - Please include name and callsign on all postings

2010-11-15 Thread JAMES ROGERS
Thank you Eric.

73s Jim, W4ATK

On Nov 15, 2010, at 12:28 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

 Hi,

 We've just added the following to the Official Elecraft List  
 Guidelines:

 In the interest of maintaining an environment of collegiality and  
 easy
 user id, please include your callsign (if you have one) and your  
 name in
 all postings to the Elecraft list. This can either be done as part of
 your email 'from' address or at the end of your posting.

 Our goal with this list is to maintain a friendly atmosphere where
 everyone gets to know one another and corresponds respectfully.

 The majority of posts already follow this guideline. We appreciate
 everyone doing this. It will help maintain the Elecraft list as the
 friendly 'goto' place for both Elecraft product and overall ham radio
 information.

 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] closing signature (was: HIGHER SWR)

2010-11-15 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE

Aside from Hector's comment, what do YOU think is causing the SWR the OP was
asking about?

On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:40:21 -0500, tuxman ronc...@verizon.net  wrote:

On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 06:02 -0800, Hector Padron wrote:
 
 AD4C
  
 
 If you see a driver handling a cell phone on her/his hands while driving,do 
 please stay away from that vehicle,its a moving bomb.Your life is at 
 danger.Keep yourself and your family alive
 

Please define stay away. 
Do you drive off the road onto a sidewalk or driveway??
As a pedestrian, do you run into a yard?

The better suggestion is:  Sound horn! This gets their attention back to
reality.

Sorry about the off topic. 
Couldn't help it.
I like to see all hams on the air -not SK by a cell phone.

72
Ron, wb1hga
how much deeper would the ocean be without sponges?
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Re: [Elecraft] closing signature

2010-11-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
  See my reflector post at 7:35 AM Eastern time - it says the same thing 
in a different way.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/15/2010 3:56 PM, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE wrote:
 Aside from Hector's comment, what do YOU think is causing the SWR the OP was
 asking about?

 On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:40:21 -0500, tuxmanronc...@verizon.net   wrote:

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread k2qi . nyc
That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here well versed 
in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood engineers would do this?  

Tnx,
James K2QI
--Original Message--
From: Larry Phipps
To: James Sarte
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
Sent: Nov 15, 2010 15:50

  'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12, 10 or 6m.

Larry N8LP


On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
 This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:

 For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB 
 modes down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband 
 is 2.7kHz or less

 So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz, 
 the receiver switches to upconversion?!?

 James K2QI

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP n...@telepostinc.com 
 mailto:n...@telepostinc.com wrote:


 The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
 panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of
 LP-PAN.
 They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than
 I can say
 for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on
 their latest
 offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme
 I have
 seen in a long time.

 Larry N8LP






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[Elecraft] K3 rev 4.22 Beta Release: Improved APF (CW); all SSB anomalies fixed

2010-11-15 Thread Wayne Burdick
K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.22 (with DSP rev. 2.70) is now  
available. This release includes our new APF (audio peaking filter)  
for CW mode. APF pitch is now tunable in 5-Hz steps, and the entire  
200-1000 Hz pitch range is usable.

For voice modes, the Fast Monitor and improved TX Noise Gate are now  
fully functional. All known issues with SSB power level have been  
corrected.

See detailed release notes below.

Please send any questions to k3supp...@elecraft.com. For instructions  
on how to load beta firmware, see:

  http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 4.22/DSP 2.70/FPF 1.14, 11-15-2010

NOTE: Be sure to install all firmware files for this release,
including FPF 1.14. Otherwise your menu text will be incorrect.

* APF (AUDIO PEAKING FILTER) ADDED: APF provides enhanced
copy of weak signals in CW mode, and is especially useful when
signals are at the noise level. The K3’s APF is patterned after
the most successful analog APF implementations, and is equally
effective in user tests. To use APF, make sure CONFIG:DUAL PB
is set to APF. (This is the default. “NOR” restores the original DUAL PB
function.) Then hold DUAL PB to turn APF on/off. A special DSP
graphic display is used to show that APF is in effect. At the time
APF is activated, the regular I.F. SHIFT setting, if any,  is “frozen,”
and SHIFT then controls the center pitch of the APF filter in 5-Hz
steps. APF is independent for the main and sub receivers, as well
as for presets I and II. Switching between these two presets is a
convenient way of turning APF on/off quickly.

* ADDED VOICE TX “FAST MONITOR”: Normally the voice
monitor includes a ~20-ms delay, which is necessary to hear how your
on-air signal will sound (with compression, etc.). If you prefer to not
hear any delay in the voice monitor, set CONFIG:TX MON to FAST.
Note: You’ll still hear the delayed and processed monitor if you
adjust the MIC, CMP, TX EQ or TX GATE settings while transmitting.

* TX NOISE GATE IMPROVEMENT: The Noise Gate/Downward
Expander for voice modes has smoother response and much
improved performance near the threshold.

* NARROW AF FILTER IMPROVEMENT: Adjusting SHIFT and
WIDTH when using very narrow DSP filters no longer causes
‘pop’ artifacts.

* SSB reduced power level bug fixed: Error was introduced
in DSP 2.65.

* FSK-D  PSK-D bug fixed: In DSP 2.69, there was no monitor
for these modes if CONFIG:TX MON was set to FAST.

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Re: [Elecraft] New List guideline - Please include name and callsign on all postings

2010-11-15 Thread Bill
Eric,
 
T H A N K  Y O U !!!
 
I support this change 100%.
 
73,
 
Bill Miner - K6WLM
 
KX1, K2,  K3-100


  
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz, the
 receiver switches to upconversion?!?

Yes, as well is operation on 30, 17, 12 and 10 meters G.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
 This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:

 For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB modes
 down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband is 2.7kHz or
 less

 So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz, the
 receiver switches to upconversion?!?

 James K2QI

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LPn...@telepostinc.com  wrote:


 The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
 panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of LP-PAN.
 They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than I can say
 for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on their latest
 offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme I have
 seen in a long time.

 Larry N8LP



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[Elecraft] K3 rev 4.21 Beta Release vs. 4.22

2010-11-15 Thread Wayne Burdick
Note: The only difference between 4.21 and 4.22 is that the former had  
a problem with FSK-D and PSK-D modes. If CONFIG:TX MON was set to FAST  
for voice modes, the monitor for these two data modes was missing.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here
 well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood
 engineers would do this?

The best guess is that Kenwood did not want to invest in 1) the high
performance front end (bandpass) filters for the non-amateur bands,
2) quality 6 KHz and 15 KHz (low frequency) IF filters, 3) give up
coverage +/- 500 KHz of the first IF, and 4) their unlocked DDS
synthesizer would not work above 33 MHZ (limiting down conversion
to a maximum frequency of 22 MHz).

Very bad design with slick marketing.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 11/15/2010 4:38 PM, k2qi@gmail.com wrote:
 That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here well versed 
 in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood engineers would do this?

 Tnx,
 James K2QI
 --Original Message--
 From: Larry Phipps
 To: James Sarte
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
 Sent: Nov 15, 2010 15:50

'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12, 10 or 6m.

 Larry N8LP


 On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
 This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:

 For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB
 modes down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband
 is 2.7kHz or less

 So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz,
 the receiver switches to upconversion?!?

 James K2QI

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LPn...@telepostinc.com
 mailto:n...@telepostinc.com  wrote:


  The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd party
  panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of
  LP-PAN.
  They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than
  I can say
  for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on
  their latest
  offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme
  I have
  seen in a long time.

  Larry N8LP






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Re: [Elecraft] Some bands and modes are always upconversion on the TS-590

2010-11-15 Thread Wayne Burdick
They're probably trying to save money by eliminating a bunch of tight  
band-pass filters for the ham bands. They're betting that no one needs  
high dynamic range on any bands other than 1.8/3.5/7/14/21 MHz, nor on  
any modes other than SSB/FSK/CW.

I beg to differ :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:38 PM, k2qi@gmail.com wrote:

 That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here  
 well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood  
 engineers would do this?

 Tnx,
 James K2QI
 --Original Message--
 From: Larry Phipps
 To: James Sarte
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
 Sent: Nov 15, 2010 15:50

  'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12, 10 or 6m.

 Larry N8LP


 On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
 This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:

 For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving in CW/FSK/SSB
 modes down conversion is selected automatically if the final passband
 is 2.7kHz or less

 So does that mean if the passband selected is greater than 2700 Hz,
 the receiver switches to upconversion?!?

 James K2QI

 On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP n...@telepostinc.com
 mailto:n...@telepostinc.com wrote:


The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of with a 3rd  
 party
panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4 selling versions of
LP-PAN.
They were smart enough to include a built in IF output. More than
I can say
for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF output jack on
their latest
offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest conversion scheme
I have
seen in a long time.

Larry N8LP






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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread ab2tc

Hmm, item 4 about the synth not going above 33MHz does not make any sense.
With a 1st IF of 73MHz for the up-conversion path, the LO would have to be
103MHz just to reach 30MHz and 127MHz to get to 54MHz.

AB2TC - Knut


Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
 
 
 That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here
 well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood
 engineers would do this?
 
 The best guess is that Kenwood did not want to invest in 1) the high
 performance front end (bandpass) filters for the non-amateur bands,
 2) quality 6 KHz and 15 KHz (low frequency) IF filters, 3) give up
 coverage +/- 500 KHz of the first IF, and 4) their unlocked DDS
 synthesizer would not work above 33 MHZ (limiting down conversion
 to a maximum frequency of 22 MHz).
 
 Very bad design with slick marketing.
 
 73,
 
 ... Joe, W4TV
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 Hmm, item 4 about the synth not going above 33MHz does not make any
 sense. With a 1st IF of 73MHz for the up-conversion path, the LO
 would have to be 103MHz just to reach 30MHz and 127MHz to get to
 54MHz.

The up conversion receiver uses a completely different synthesizer
(and different synthesizer design).  In fact, the up conversion
receiver is essentially an entirely separate receiver from the
antenna (T/R switch) to the DSP unit.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 11/15/2010 5:48 PM, ab2tc wrote:

 Hmm, item 4 about the synth not going above 33MHz does not make any sense.
 With a 1st IF of 73MHz for the up-conversion path, the LO would have to be
 103MHz just to reach 30MHz and 127MHz to get to 54MHz.

 AB2TC - Knut


 Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:


 That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here
 well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood
 engineers would do this?

 The best guess is that Kenwood did not want to invest in 1) the high
 performance front end (bandpass) filters for the non-amateur bands,
 2) quality 6 KHz and 15 KHz (low frequency) IF filters, 3) give up
 coverage +/- 500 KHz of the first IF, and 4) their unlocked DDS
 synthesizer would not work above 33 MHZ (limiting down conversion
 to a maximum frequency of 22 MHz).

 Very bad design with slick marketing.

 73,

  ... Joe, W4TV

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Re: [Elecraft] Some bands and modes are always upconversion on the TS-590

2010-11-15 Thread Eugene Balinski
   I am sure that they were all design trade-offs made to
get the radio to meet a certain market price point.  The
question is how much bang do you get for the buck?  Is a
K-3 worth the (nominal) $1,200 more ? 

To us, the answer is yes.  To others, the improvement
seen in the receiver may not be worth the extra money given
the manner is which they operate.  Also, there are plenty
of hams that can just not afford a $3,000.00 + radio no
matter how good it is,  and the Kenwood gives them a nice
rig for the price point.   As they say,  different
strokes

73
Gene K1NR

K2 - 6Kxx


On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:17:56 -0800
 Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:
 They're probably trying to save money by eliminating a
 bunch of tight  
 band-pass filters for the ham bands. They're betting that
 no one needs  
 high dynamic range on any bands other than
 1.8/3.5/7/14/21 MHz, nor on  
 any modes other than SSB/FSK/CW.
 
 I beg to differ :)
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 On Nov 15, 2010, at 1:38 PM, k2qi@gmail.com wrote:
 
  That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone
 else here  
  well versed in radio design please explain to me why
 the Kenwood  
  engineers would do this?
 
  Tnx,
  James K2QI
  --Original Message--
  From: Larry Phipps
  To: James Sarte
  Cc: Elecraft Reflector
  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu
 FTDX5000MP
  Sent: Nov 15, 2010 15:50
 
   'Yup, as far as I can tell, and also for any BW on 12,
 10 or 6m.
 
  Larry N8LP
 
 
  On 11/15/2010 3:33 PM, James Sarte wrote:
  This is one thing I don't understand with the TS-590s:
 
  For 1.8/3.5/7/14/21MHz amateur bands, when receiving
 in CW/FSK/SSB
  modes down conversion is selected automatically if the
 final passband
  is 2.7kHz or less
 
  So does that mean if the passband selected is greater
 than 2700 Hz,
  the receiver switches to upconversion?!?
 
  James K2QI
 
  On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:23 PM, N8LP
 n...@telepostinc.com
  mailto:n...@telepostinc.com wrote:
 
 
 The panadapter limitations are easily taken care of
 with a 3rd  
  party
 panadapter. FT5K versions are among the top 4
 selling versions of
 LP-PAN.
 They were smart enough to include a built in IF
 output. More than
 I can say
 for Kenwood, who not only didn't provide an IF
 output jack on
 their latest
 offering, but came up with perhaps the goofiest
 conversion scheme
 I have
 seen in a long time.
 
 Larry N8LP
 
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Conclusion - they are not using the DDS synth for the up-conversion.
Now, I don't know that for certain, but speculation says that may be 
what is happening.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/15/2010 5:48 PM, ab2tc wrote:
 Hmm, item 4 about the synth not going above 33MHz does not make any sense.
 With a 1st IF of 73MHz for the up-conversion path, the LO would have to be
 103MHz just to reach 30MHz and 127MHz to get to 54MHz.

 AB2TC - Knut

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Re: [Elecraft] Some bands and modes are always upconversion on the TS-590

2010-11-15 Thread Randy Hall
I am just glad to see Kenwood has finally hatched a new radio.

It has been a long time coming.

Yaesu FTxx-5000, Tentec Eagle, the more the better!

Randy
K7AGE
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 LPF add-on filter

2010-11-15 Thread David Windisch

Hi, all concerned:

I wrote the mother ship about the following several weeks ago, in ignorance
of efforts on the firmware APF.  I didn't hear anything back, which is just
as well, cuz I like the firmware version as much, or better, than anything
I've cobbled up g.

In any case, if you download the K3 LPF add-on filter manual and study the
schematic, you can experiment with your own low-level active or passive APFs
using the cuts as in and out, if you choose.  Just bring the connections out
of the radio in shielded cable.  I use designs from an ancient TI app note:
Application Report SLOA058– November 2000 whic I found on line while
googling state variable filter.  I like SV filters cuz you get
hi/lo/allpass-notch-peak functions from the same circuitry.

Remember, ymmv.  I am interested in the operational contrast between the
analog and digital worlds, and this is a relatively easy comparison.  I opte
for the factory lpf mostly to avoid YA box on the table.

Brgds,
Dave, N3HE
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[Elecraft] Fwd: FT5000 PIN Diodes

2010-11-15 Thread Karl Marderian


Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Karl Marderian karl...@sbcglobal.net
 Date: November 15, 2010 3:23:33 PM PST
 To: elecr...@mailman.gth.net elecr...@mailman.gth.net
 Subject: FT5000 PIN Diodes
 

 As I remember, when I bought my K3. I want to receive AM, even down to the 
 low broadcast band. I was told that I needed the optional receive plug. This 
 was to bypass the PIN Diodes. 
 Maybe this is why Yeasu did not use them. 
 N6XVT. Karl
 
 
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[Elecraft] K2/100 QSK problem

2010-11-15 Thread k2zf50
Upon initial power up OR after the K2 has been idle for a short period of time 
I have discovered that the first character keyed gets truncated. If I was to 
send my call sign - K2ZF - the K would be transmitted as  A. Letter K  dah dit 
dah  -  the first dah would NOT get transmitted and the receiving station would 
answer  A2ZF. Its no problem if I was to call CQ and repeat my call sign a few 
times, but if I'm chasing DX and I send my call only once the DX would reply  
A2ZF.
Every other letter gets transmitted properly afterward, its just the first 
character after the K2 has been idle. Should I be looking for a sticky relay 
and if so which one?
Thanks,  Jim  K2ZF
 



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread ab2tc

Wow, that is really bizarre. Talk about waisting resources. The price is
really a bargain considering all the hardware you get...

AB2TC - Knut


Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote:
 
 
 snip
 
 The up conversion receiver uses a completely different synthesizer
 (and different synthesizer design).  In fact, the up conversion
 receiver is essentially an entirely separate receiver from the
 antenna (T/R switch) to the DSP unit.
 
 73,
 
 ... Joe, W4TV
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: FT5000 PIN Diodes

2010-11-15 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Karl,

I think there are a few issues to clear up here.

The K3 uses PIN diodes that are rated down to around 500 kHz, so they  
won't cause any IMD due to broadcast band signals. Such PIN diodes are  
readily available, but more expensive, so I can see why a manufacturer  
might want to use relay switching instead. That wasn't an option in  
the K3 -- it had to have solid-state T/R switching.

In addition to using the right PIN diodes, we took two extra  
precautions.

First, we incorporated a high-pass filter into the T/R switch. It  
rolls off signals below 1 MHz to ensure that extremely strong signals  
in the 500 kHz range or below are attenuated. The attenuation at 500  
kHz is about 20-25 dB. This is not a problem for casual broadcast band  
DXing.

However, we also provide a way around the T/R switch: the RX ANT IN  
jack on the KXV3 or KXV3A module. Most broadcast-band enthusiasts  
connect their low-band receiving antenna directly to RX ANT IN,  
bypassing the high-pass filter. If you still have a particular station  
that's a problem, you could use an external notch filter in line with  
RX ANT IN.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:33 PM, Karl Marderian wrote:



 Sent from my iPhone

 Begin forwarded message:

 From: Karl Marderian karl...@sbcglobal.net
 Date: November 15, 2010 3:23:33 PM PST
 To: elecr...@mailman.gth.net elecr...@mailman.gth.net
 Subject: FT5000 PIN Diodes


 As I remember, when I bought my K3. I want to receive AM, even down  
 to the low broadcast band. I was told that I needed the optional  
 receive plug. This was to bypass the PIN Diodes.
 Maybe this is why Yeasu did not use them.
 N6XVT. Karl

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Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 QSK problem

2010-11-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
  Jim,

No relays are involved in the K2 T/R switching, it is all solid state 
and it is quite fast.

I could surmise that your problem occurs after a band change or right 
after a power cycle or after a change in the requested power.  In cases 
like that, the K2 will drop the power to a low value and build up to the 
requested level after a dot or two - the DX station may not be hearing 
the dots at lower power.

To avoid that initial power leveling situation, you would have to 
transmit a few dots before your callsign.

OTOH, if that happens consistently (and not after a band change or 
change of power), then you should check further.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 11/15/2010 6:45 PM, k2z...@aol.com wrote:
 Upon initial power up OR after the K2 has been idle for a short period of 
 time I have discovered that the first character keyed gets truncated. If I 
 was to send my call sign - K2ZF - the K would be transmitted as  A. Letter K  
 dah dit dah  -  the first dah would NOT get transmitted and the receiving 
 station would answer  A2ZF. Its no problem if I was to call CQ and repeat my 
 call sign a few times, but if I'm chasing DX and I send my call only once the 
 DX would reply  A2ZF.
 Every other letter gets transmitted properly afterward, its just the first 
 character after the K2 has been idle. Should I be looking for a sticky relay 
 and if so which one?
 Thanks,  Jim  K2ZF

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread George A. Thornton
When I was in the market for my K3 someone told me that what is at the
top of the heap today may be surpassed by someone else tomorrow.
Supposedly the Yaesu has a better receiver, at least on CW.  

What would bother me about this kind of a rig is that after spending all
that money on it, I may find myself owning an outmoded rig in a couple
of years.  They only maintain the current state of the art up to a
point, then they want to sell a new model.  I would be extremely mad if
I had bought the FT-2000 and now find the FT-5000 offering significantly
enhanced performance.

The other thing that would bother me is having to deal with product
defects.  Judging from what I read in the report, this unit already has
a number of issues.  That is not surprising for new technology but the
question is what are they going to do about it.  Sure, they will fix
some things now but I am probably going to have to send it in to the
factory for a month or more.

The beauty of the K3 is the absolutely stellar service.  Plus the fact
that most issues can be fixed with a simple swap of a board or a part.
Instead of sending the unit in whenever something goes wrong, I can with
the help of the factory figure out what is probably wrong and fix it
myself.  I just did that with a defective B encoder.

Further, as long as they continue to make K3's I know I am going to be
able to benefit from all the improvements.  I may have to pay a little
for parts but I am not going to have to shell out $5000 for a new radio.


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[Elecraft] I like the modular design (was: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP)

2010-11-15 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello George,

I have recently purchased a second hand K3 and discovered the KPA3 was not 
working.  Since K3 is modular design, I simply sent the problematic KPA3 back 
for repair.  Modular design is good for overseas user like myself.

A modular design is workable as long as majority of the 
users, Elecrafters, have 
some technical knowledge (all of us passed the radio amateur examination).  Or, 
the users, like the Elecrafters here, at least border to look into the radio.  
For commercial / institutional radios, when there are causal users not so 
technical oriented or simply don't have the luxury of time, the approach in K3 
may have to be carefulluy considered.

For most commercial radio manufacturers, I suppose they have to comply all the 
ISO (i.e. ISO 9000, 9001, 9002) requirements.  Manufacturers will possibly be 
worried about whether plug out / plug in modules will affect the performance of 
the radios under those ISO requirements.

On the other hand, extensive support service (like Elecraft) has to be provided 
to cope with all those updates and exchange / replacement of modules / 
PCB.  Elecraft is doing very well now.  However, how about if Elecraft's sales 
volume like the Icom, Yaesu and Kenwood (I think Wayne and Eric would like to 
have that sales volume), extensive support service could be a burden from 
business point of view.

I shall be back on the air again with K3 upon finish repair of the KPA3.
 cheers, 


Johnny VR2XMC 



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主題: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

When I was in the market for my K3 someone told me that what is at the
top of the heap today may be surpassed by someone else tomorrow.
Supposedly the Yaesu has a better receiver, at least on CW.  

What would bother me about this kind of a rig is that after spending all
that money on it, I may find myself owning an outmoded rig in a couple
of years.  They only maintain the current state of the art up to a
point, then they want to sell a new model.  I would be extremely mad if
I had bought the FT-2000 and now find the FT-5000 offering significantly
enhanced performance.

The other thing that would bother me is having to deal with product
defects.  Judging from what I read in the report, this unit already has
a number of issues.  That is not surprising for new technology but the
question is what are they going to do about it.  Sure, they will fix
some things now but I am probably going to have to send it in to the
factory for a month or more.

The beauty of the K3 is the absolutely stellar service.  Plus the fact
that most issues can be fixed with a simple swap of a board or a part.
Instead of sending the unit in whenever something goes wrong, I can with
the help of the factory figure out what is probably wrong and fix it
myself.  I just did that with a defective B encoder.

Further, as long as they continue to make K3's I know I am going to be
able to benefit from all the improvements.  I may have to pay a little
for parts but I am not going to have to shell out $5000 for a new radio.


  
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[Elecraft] KDVR 3 problem

2010-11-15 Thread DBellW6AQ
I just fired up my second K3 for the first time and the config menu says  
the KDVR 3 is not installed but it is definitely in there -- I put it in as I 
 was building the radio.  Rotating VFO A does nothing.  Is there a  common 
problem here?  Everything else seems to be fine (so far)
 
73, Dave
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[Elecraft] K3 - KDVR bug?

2010-11-15 Thread Barry Pfeil
Recently installed the KDVR3 and still trying to figure it out.  Two questions:

1. In setting up for the Sweepstakes contest, I want to use the microphone to 
speak the first part of my exchange, that is the other station's call and the 
number and precedence I am giving him, e.g., W1XYZ, you're number 123 Uniform 
and I want to use the KDVR for the rest, e.g., K6RM, 59, Sierra Charlie 
Victor.  I've programmed the N1MM macros from N6ML's 
site  http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3  to drive the K3 DVR and they work 
great when pushing the physical N1MM Function keys or clicking same on-screen.

BUT, when using VOX, I've discovered that the message won't play if I try to 
start it (with the N1MM F-key or ENTER in ESM mode) while the PTT is still 
asserted from my earlier speaking.  If I wait that fraction of a second until 
the VOX PTT drops (i.e., when I hear noise in the headset again) before I 
initiate the message, it plays fine.  Switching to the footswitch instead of 
VOX, everything plays fine even if I keep the footswitch down while the DVR 
message is starting.  Seems like the same logic in the K3 that allows that 
should also apply to the VOX PTT assertion, but apparently it does not?  Is 
this 
expected behavior or maybe a bug or needed enhancement in the DVR?

2. I find that the playback level of the DVR is a function of the MIC GAIN 
setting when recording.  In other words, changing the MIC gain during playback 
does NOT affect then playback level.  However, the DVR evidently stores 
UNCOMPRESSED audio because the compression DOES vary directly with the COMP 
control during DVR playback.  Again, is this normal/expected?

With all due respect, I LOVE my K3, but  I HATE having to experiment (or read 
this reflector) to learn things like this when it SHOULD be in the manual.  
Frankly, IMHO, the K3 manual stinks.  


Thanks es 73, Barry K6RM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 rev 4.22 Beta Release: Improved APF (CW); all SSB anomalies fixed

2010-11-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
Wayne, I do still hear a noticeable 'tick' on CW when going from 150 to
100 Hz and back again.  It seems to be repeatable if I go a step or so
past those values and then return the other way.  My K3 is S/N 4762.  I
typically need to have headphones on to hear it.

73, de Nate N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Rob May



 What would bother me about this kind of a rig is that after spending all
 that money on it, I may find myself owning an outmoded rig in a couple
 of years. They only maintain the current state of the art up to a
 point, then they want to sell a new model. I would be extremely mad if
 I had bought the FT-2000 and now find the FT-5000 offering significantly
 enhanced performance.


Why would you be mad if you bought an FT-2000 and then Yaesu comes out with the 
FT-5000 with significantly better performance?  It costs twice as much, it'd 
better have significantly better performance.  Now if I was an FT-9000 owner, 
I'd really be ticked off!  :)

Rob
NV5E
  
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 15 Nov 20:00 -0600, Rob May wrote:
 
 
 Why would you be mad if you bought an FT-2000 and then Yaesu comes out with 
 the FT-5000 with significantly better performance?  It costs twice as much, 
 it'd better have significantly better performance.  Now if I was an FT-9000 
 owner, I'd really be ticked off!  :)

So that's why we're here as Elecraft customers.  :-)

73, de Nate N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 rev 4.22 Beta Release: Improved APF (CW); all SSB anomalies fixed

2010-11-15 Thread Lyle Johnson
There is an error in the release notes, it should not say WIDTH but only 
SHIFT that was updated in the firmware.

73,

Lyle KK7P

 Wayne, I do still hear a noticeable 'tick' on CW when going from 150 to
 100 Hz and back again...
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KDVR bug?

2010-11-15 Thread Jim Brown
On 11/15/2010 5:12 PM, Barry Pfeil wrote:
 BUT, when using VOX, I've discovered that the message won't play if I try to
 start it (with the N1MM F-key or ENTER in ESM mode) while the PTT is still
 asserted from my earlier speaking.

During CQP, I used DVR for the first time on your rig.  I strongly 
prefer VOX. The thing I found maddening is that if you BREATHE while the 
DVR is playing, you'll kill DVR playback. That made it nearly unusable 
for me.

 Frankly, IMHO, the K3 manual stinks.

I agree. ALL good writing should tell a story.  The K3 manual does not 
tell a story.  It's also disjointed, poorly indexed, and some stuff you 
need to know can be very hard to find.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 rev 4.22 Beta Release: Improved APF (CW); all SSB anomalies fixed

2010-11-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 15 Nov 20:20 -0600, Lyle Johnson wrote:
 There is an error in the release notes, it should not say WIDTH but only 
 SHIFT that was updated in the firmware.

Very well, Lyle.  Thanks.

73, de Nate N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KDVR bug?

2010-11-15 Thread Lyle Johnson
Yes.

The DVR is after MIC GAIN and before filtering/processing, so it records 
based on the mic gain setting, and plays back to the system at that same 
exact level.

73,

Lyle KK7P

 ...In other words, changing the MIC gain during playback
 does NOT affect then playback level.  However, the DVR evidently stores
 UNCOMPRESSED audio because the compression DOES vary directly with the COMP
 control during DVR playback.  Again, is this normal/expected?

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[Elecraft] Yeasu FT5000

2010-11-15 Thread KARL MARDERIAN
Again, the FT5000 is for the Yeasu market. They make fine radios. A radio that 
is rated as high as this new from Yeasu will be great radio for years to come. 
Not the best, but one of. Again the K3 is for the HAM that whats to design his 
own radio.I have little or no use for a sub receiver. Others may not only want, 
but need one. I like making it the way I want it to be and not pay more.

Give me some lottery winnings and I would love to have a FT5000. Again we the 
HAMS win when stuff gets better and better. The K3 will get better too. The K4, 
K3 mark ll.

Karl   N6XVT
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[Elecraft] W2 Watt Meter Interface Application

2010-11-15 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
Hello,

For those of us who have two K3's and two W2 Watt meters, would you consider one
of two options to help us know which interface we are looking at?

1) Since one has to rename the Interface executable to run two copies at the
same time, perhaps in the load event of the main form, put code that changes the
form Text (Title) to the name the W2 executable started up with.

2)  In the setup form add a TextBox control that allows the user enter Text they
would like to display in the form Text (Title).

Thanks for considering that.

Thanks and 73,

Tom Childers
Radio Amateur N5GE
Licensed since 1976
QCWA Member 35102
ARRL Life Member
 

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[Elecraft] Unstable KPA3-100W

2010-11-15 Thread K5RC
I got a number of reports from SS CW of spurious signals. I have isolated it
to one K3 (S/N 4498). With the KPA3-100 disabled (below 12 watts) the signal
is clean. From about 13 watts to 90 watts, there are spurious signals about
every 1KHz  + and - the carrier frequency. The frequency of the spurs
changes as the power control is advanced and the signal becomes clean again
at about 90W. This happens on 80, 20 and 10 (the only bands this radio has
antennas for). Also, the power output is unstable on the wattmeter and the
SWR apparently changes continually indicating a wandering spur.

 

Any ideas? 

 

Tom Taormina, K5RC

The Comstock Memorial Station, W7RN

Virginia City NV

http://k5rc.cc 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] W2 Watt Meter Interface Application

2010-11-15 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
Option 3:

A startup command line that allows definition of the form text AND the Serial
Port Name.

73,

Tom Childers
Radio Amateur N5GE
Licensed since 1976
QCWA Member 35102
ARRL Life Member


On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:49:54 -0600, Amateur Radio Operator N5GE n...@n5ge.com
wrote:

Hello,

For those of us who have two K3's and two W2 Watt meters, would you consider 
one
of two options to help us know which interface we are looking at?

1) Since one has to rename the Interface executable to run two copies at the
same time, perhaps in the load event of the main form, put code that changes 
the
form Text (Title) to the name the W2 executable started up with.

2)  In the setup form add a TextBox control that allows the user enter Text 
they
would like to display in the form Text (Title).

Thanks for considering that.

Thanks and 73,

Tom Childers
Radio Amateur N5GE
Licensed since 1976
QCWA Member 35102
ARRL Life Member
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Pittsburgh Area Hamfest SUNDAY WACOM

2010-11-15 Thread K3RWN


Bill's demo was a huge hit at the WACOM Fest.  I stopped by several times to
join in the fun.  To be honest doing demos for the folks was the most fun I
have had at a hamfest in a long time.

Bill did a bang up job.

It is amazing how well a K3 receives on a wire out the window (LOL)

Also Steve KB3EYY stopped by, we had just put his K3 #4820 (??) the night
before.

Great fun. 

Rich
K3RWN #3300

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[Elecraft] OT: Problems with Icom 756 Pro III internal tuner

2010-11-15 Thread James Sarte
Greetings fellow Elecrafters,

I'm sorry for emailing this question to the group, but the folks on this
reflector are a smart bunch.  Maybe someone could give me some advice or
suggestions.  I posted this question to the Icom 756 Pro III group and QRZ,
but no one seems to have an answer.

I'm diagnosing a problem with an Icom 756 Pro III.  It's tuner's insertion
loss is quite high.  For example, when the tuner is off, sending an
unmodulated FSK carrier shows the transceiver putting out 100W.  As soon as
the tuner is activated, power drops by 10-15%.  That's a lot of power being
dissipated somewhere, and I don't think it's good especially for 100% duty
cycle modes.  It doesn't matter whether the Icom is connected to a dummy
load or resonant antenna.  The results are always the same on every band.

In comparison, the K3's tuner seems to be incredibly efficient.  If there is
a loss of output power on the K3 whenever its tuner is inline, it's not
noticeable.  More often than not, power increases when the K3 finds a good
impedence match.

I've gone as far as recalibrating the Icom's tuner.  This was done by
terminating the remote jack on the rear panel, and entering the tuner
service mode.  The tuner calibration process completed with no errors
reported by the Pro3.

Any suggestions?  I'm going to call Icom support tomorrow to see what they
say.

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73 de James K2QI
President UNARC/4U1UN
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Re: [Elecraft] Unstable KPA3-100W

2010-11-15 Thread James Sarte
Hi Tom,

Have a look at the following technical bulleting from Elecraft:

http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/K3%20Technical%20Alert%201.pdf

Does your KPA3 have capacitor C3 installed? If so, that may be your problem.

73 de James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:50 PM, K5RC t...@k5rc.cc wrote:

 I got a number of reports from SS CW of spurious signals. I have isolated
 it
 to one K3 (S/N 4498). With the KPA3-100 disabled (below 12 watts) the
 signal
 is clean. From about 13 watts to 90 watts, there are spurious signals about
 every 1KHz  + and - the carrier frequency. The frequency of the spurs
 changes as the power control is advanced and the signal becomes clean again
 at about 90W. This happens on 80, 20 and 10 (the only bands this radio has
 antennas for). Also, the power output is unstable on the wattmeter and the
 SWR apparently changes continually indicating a wandering spur.



 Any ideas?



 Tom Taormina, K5RC

 The Comstock Memorial Station, W7RN

 Virginia City NV

 http://k5rc.cc



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[Elecraft] Switch to digest question

2010-11-15 Thread Craig D. Smith
In preparation for being away from the net for a couple weeks, I tried to
switch this Email list from individual emails to digest.  Did so on Sunday
morning via my Yahoo groups control panel, and as of now (Monday evening)
I'm still receiving individual emails.  Does anyone have experience as to
how long it typically takes for this option to become effective?

Thanks and 73  Craig   AC0DS

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[Elecraft] OT (Yamaha Cm 500)

2010-11-15 Thread Chris Hembree
Just got my CM 500 today. Would someone please tell me what the black box with 
2AAA batteries is for.
Plus how do you like the mic on the cm500? I can't see it being as good as the 
Heil GM-5.

Comments please.
Chris W7CTH



  
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Re: [Elecraft] Switch to digest question

2010-11-15 Thread Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
Hi Craig,
Go here: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
Then login and change your preferences on the following page[s]

Hope this helps.

Jeff Cochrane - VK4BOF
Innisfail, QLD, Australia
Elecraft K3# 4257

  - Original Message - 
  From: Craig D. Smith 
  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:31 PM
  Subject: [Elecraft] Switch to digest question


  In preparation for being away from the net for a couple weeks, I tried to
  switch this Email list from individual emails to digest.  Did so on Sunday
  morning via my Yahoo groups control panel, and as of now (Monday evening)
  I'm still receiving individual emails.  Does anyone have experience as to
  how long it typically takes for this option to become effective?

  Thanks and 73  Craig   AC0DS

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Re: [Elecraft] Switch to digest question - nevermind

2010-11-15 Thread Craig D. Smith
Oops - got my mailing lists mixed up.  Of course I can't deal with this one
via Yahoo.  Realized that right after I hit enter on the last email   ;)

Sorry for the bandwidth

73  Craig  AC0DS



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

2010-11-15 Thread Luis V. Romero
Joe:

Ahhh, Product Marketing/Management. I miss it so. :)

 Very bad design with slick marketing.

You mean it was designed by Sony Broadcast?  :)

Your points are dead on.  But I think there is more.  It may be that in the
next two years, they will be able to offer you the upgraded TS590S(G) with a
real dual receiver system and quality IF filters, or they will bail from the
market altogether.  Successful patterns are repeated in Product Marketing.
This looks to me like a stalling tactic while working on proving market
segment competitiveness to help make a decision; continue to play or fold?

More than likely, funds were limited because they were starved for product
development resources while merging with JVC, and Corporate wants better
data to see if the Amateur Radio market makes sense, so they chose to stay
with the basic TS570 platform and enhance it much in the same way
Betacam became BetacamSP (some added signals here, some metal tape there.
Presto!).  

Good Marketing will take care of the rest!  We build Legends is
performance by association from the era when there were resources for
product line development and RD.  There's still a lot of Goodwill from the
TS950/TS850 days! Even from TS520 days!

And Larry, you're right, from a technical perspective, the 590 receiver
schema is really Goofy!  

But they will sell a ton of them, as will Ten Tec with the Eagle, which is
the 590's true competitor IMHO!

Then there is the Icom Behemoth. I still think that all the Icom Marketing
folks are disciples of Alfred P. Sloan.  Their product line looks exactly
like General Motors in the late 60's early 70's.  Products from Cradle to
Grave, with a sports car and some trucks thrown in for good measure!

Elecraft's well targeted market niche is being attacked from above by the
FTdx5k and from below by the 590 and to a lesser extent, the Eagle.  Most of
the erosion will be in the lower side of the equation.  Main K3 competitor
is really the IC7600, and technically it leaves a lot to be desired and is
not as customizable, but undercuts K3 in price and it has the Icom mystique
by association.  Icom has done a masterful job at brand identity.  

So the K3 niche is still rather exclusive, but eroding a little bit.

Frankly, Yaesu has just cannibalized the FTdx9k product line AFAIC!  That
platform is a dead end now and must be awfully expensive to continue to
market, so I expect for it to quietly fade away.

Elecraft is a lot like Honda in the mid 70's.  Pick the niche, build a solid
product and back it with uncompromising service, winning one customer at a
time.

-lu-w4lt-
K3 # 3192


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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 17:13:35 -0500
From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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 That makes absolutely no sense to me. Can you or anyone else here
 well versed in radio design please explain to me why the Kenwood
 engineers would do this?

The best guess is that Kenwood did not want to invest in 1) the high
performance front end (bandpass) filters for the non-amateur bands,
2) quality 6 KHz and 15 KHz (low frequency) IF filters, 3) give up
coverage +/- 500 KHz of the first IF, and 4) their unlocked DDS
synthesizer would not work above 33 MHZ (limiting down conversion
to a maximum frequency of 22 MHz).

Very bad design with slick marketing.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

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Re: [Elecraft] OT (Yamaha Cm 500)

2010-11-15 Thread Dick Dievendorff
It's a microphone bias supply. If your audio equipment provides bias (the K3
can), then you can plug the microphone in directly.  If the equipment
doesn't have the ability to provide bias voltage, the battery pack will.

Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Chris Hembree
Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 7:36 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] OT (Yamaha Cm 500)

Just got my CM 500 today. Would someone please tell me what the black box
with 2AAA batteries is for.
Plus how do you like the mic on the cm500? I can't see it being as good as
the Heil GM-5.

Comments please.
Chris W7CTH



  
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KDVR bug?

2010-11-15 Thread Barry Pfeil
Thanks, Lyle.  Why can't the manual make a simple clear statement like 
that  
How long has the KDVR been around?  Grumble, grumble...!
73, Barry K6RM


- Original Message 
From: Lyle Johnson k...@wavecable.com
To: Barry Pfeil barrypf...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 6:22:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KDVR bug?

Yes.

The DVR is after MIC GAIN and before filtering/processing, so it records based 
on the mic gain setting, and plays back to the system at that same exact level.

73,

Lyle KK7P

 ...In other words, changing the MIC gain during playback
 does NOT affect then playback level.  However, the DVR evidently stores
 UNCOMPRESSED audio because the compression DOES vary directly with the COMP
 control during DVR playback.  Again, is this normal/expected?
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[Elecraft] FSK on K3 Using MMTTY and Navigator

2010-11-15 Thread Lee Finkel
After successfully running MMTTY using FSK on the K3 with my Navigator
interface, it has stopped working.  I cannot pinpoint when or why, but all
efforts at restoring this very successful combination have failed.  I am now
trying the newest version of MMTTY, 1.68A.  Has anyone had similar
difficulties?  Before I concede and move to AFSK, any suggested solutions
are welcome.  I can run this set-up on FSK using MixW, but that program does
not interface with DX4WIN or N1MM.

 

Lee, KY7M

 

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