Re: [Elecraft] K3 - FM deviation
Ed Same here. It's an issue that was raised many moons ago and I believe that Elecraft made some software changes to address this. In my humble opinion, it's nowhere near right yet. John G4ZTR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Edward R. Cole Sent: 25 February 2012 21:25 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - FM deviation I've had complaints my FM signal is low in audio (which implies low deviation). Mic gain control is inoperative in FM mode (turned up to 60 with no change). I checked CONFIG: FM DEV and it is set to 5.0 KHz. It can be raised to 6.0 but I haven't changed it as that seems not the proper way to raise transmit audio. I'm guessing this setting is fixed at the factory. I have no RF level issues: signal is full quieting on FM. Even yelling into the mic with my lips touching the mic makes no difference (according to the listener). Is there an epot to control this or hard pot inside the radio? 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com "Kits made by KL7UW" http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6915 (20120225) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voltage drop
Ron W3ZV wrote > > Noted that the voltage on RX was 13.6. Dropped to 12.6 with 75 watts RTTY > TX. Supplied power cord to an Astron RS-35M. I am concerned that the drop > may be excessive. I'd like to make sure that there is a problem before I > start tearing into things. Cause for concern? > This recently came up on the Yahoo K3 list where N4PJ reported a 1.0V drop using a RS-35M (13.6 to 12.6 key down). I also use the RS.35M and my drop is 0.4V (14.6 to 14.2 with 110W key down). I'd check that your connections at the RS-35M are solid. Many of these hum slightly which can cause the nuts to loosen slightly over time. I run my voltage higher to improve TX IMD performance on SSB. Elecraft's maximum spec is 15V. There's a wheeled pot on the underside of the RS-35M control board (or any Astron for that matter) which adjusts the output voltage but be careful when adjusting it! 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Voltage-drop-tp7318310p7319046.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voltage drop
Ron, I didn't think to look at that last night, but I am testing it now into a dummy load at 50W. I am using an MFJ-4125 with about 18" of #10 "zip cord." This goes to a PowerPole DC distribution panel and there is another run of about 30" of #10 to the K3. On receive, I have 13.4 - 13.5VDC (1.15 - 1.16A). On transmit, it drops to 12.4 - 12.5VDC (~14.5A). The wires are not even remotely warm. I do not have time to test with my Astron RS-35A at the moment, but I will when I get home this afternoon. I also have an Astron RS-20A I can experiment with. Joel - W4JBB On 2/25/2012 5:55 PM, Ron W3ZV wrote: > Okay, confession time. My VFO B display area rarely displays anything but > frequency. Doing the NAQP RTTY today, I had a brief attack of curiosity. > Wanted to see how the PA temperature was doing. On the way I passed the > voltage display and stopped for some reason. Noted that the voltage on RX was > 13.6. Dropped to 12.6 with 75 watts RTTY TX. Supplied power cord to an Astron > RS-35M. I am concerned that the drop may be excessive. I'd like to make sure > that there is a problem before I start tearing into things. Cause for concern? > > Ron W3ZV > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voltage drop
Joel, Measure the voltage drop right at the power supply terminals - that will tell you how much of that total voltage drop is due to the power supply. The rest is in the wire and connectors - there are 12 connectors if your PowerPole distribution box has fuses, and 8 connectors if no fuses. The connectors can account for about 0.2 volts drop at 14.5 amps, and another 0.015 volts drop in the 8 feet of #10 wire (you have to count the length of the return path too. So 0.22 volts of the total drop can be attributed to wire and the connectors. A 1 volt drop at a 15 amp current draw is not unusual. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/26/2012 8:36 AM, Joel Black wrote: > Ron, > > I didn't think to look at that last night, but I am testing it now into > a dummy load at 50W. I am using an MFJ-4125 with about 18" of #10 "zip > cord." This goes to a PowerPole DC distribution panel and there is > another run of about 30" of #10 to the K3. On receive, I have 13.4 - > 13.5VDC (1.15 - 1.16A). On transmit, it drops to 12.4 - 12.5VDC > (~14.5A). The wires are not even remotely warm. > > I do not have time to test with my Astron RS-35A at the moment, but I > will when I get home this afternoon. I also have an Astron RS-20A I can > experiment with. > > Joel - W4JBB > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Great decision on K3
It was November last year when I decided on a "fully loaded" slightly used K3 versus a FTDX5000 and I am so stoked that I made that decision. I still monitor the user group for the high end Yaesu 5K because I am still interested in understand how the two rigs compare. One of today's posting was focused on roofing filters with a couple folks posting complaints about the stock filters for SSB on the 5K and their performance. Complaints about filters on a $5k plus rig, woah! Made me smile inside and out. One noted gent who I have gotten to know a little stated about the performance delta in this regard with the K3. Man, I am SO STOKED that I got this rig. Thanks Eric and Wayne and the Elecraft team for providing us with a better value and performance alternative to big three. I am waiting anxiously for my KX3 to arrive and I as soon as i close my next big business consulting project (in the works) I am getting another K3. Keith AG6AZ Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Stereo phone plug on back of K3
Back around the time I got my K3 (serial number #3799) there were several other K3 owners who had problems (like shorted audio circuit or something like that) when they put a mono 3.5 mm plug into the stereo rear panel phones outlet. I remember the warning: use stereo only for rear panel phones. Was this ever changed so that you can now (accidentally maybe) plug a mono into the stereo and everything would be fine (accept for losing the stereo channels in your ears). I have not done this but the question was raised when I was chatting with a new K3 owner. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Low sensitivity on K2...
I have two K2s, and I find on one of them that the sensitivity is much lower. I see this when doing a test with an XG1 signal generator. The problem is that the "low sensitivity" rig is one that I bought built, while the one that works fine is a rig I built myself. I have tried to reallign the rig, but without much improvement to say the least. It just seems that AF gain is far more responsive on my own built rig, and this is accross all bands. Any suggestions? thanks and 73 Robin OZ6ABM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Low-sensitivity-on-K2-tp7319468p7319468.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Voltage drop
Also check the Power Pole connectors to make sure the tabs are fully seated into the plastic housing till it clicks. Greg On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 5:36 AM, Joel Black wrote: > Ron, > > I didn't think to look at that last night, but I am testing it now into > a dummy load at 50W. I am using an MFJ-4125 with about 18" of #10 "zip > cord." This goes to a PowerPole DC distribution panel and there is > another run of about 30" of #10 to the K3. On receive, I have 13.4 - > 13.5VDC (1.15 - 1.16A). On transmit, it drops to 12.4 - 12.5VDC > (~14.5A). The wires are not even remotely warm. > > I do not have time to test with my Astron RS-35A at the moment, but I > will when I get home this afternoon. I also have an Astron RS-20A I can > experiment with. > > Joel - W4JBB > > On 2/25/2012 5:55 PM, Ron W3ZV wrote: > > Okay, confession time. My VFO B display area rarely displays anything > but frequency. Doing the NAQP RTTY today, I had a brief attack of > curiosity. Wanted to see how the PA temperature was doing. On the way I > passed the voltage display and stopped for some reason. Noted that the > voltage on RX was 13.6. Dropped to 12.6 with 75 watts RTTY TX. Supplied > power cord to an Astron RS-35M. I am concerned that the drop may be > excessive. I'd like to make sure that there is a problem before I start > tearing into things. Cause for concern? > > > > Ron W3ZV > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 94, Issue 50
Thanks for the suggestions for fixing my K1 keyer problem, but 1) it does it in both mode B AND A and 2) I have cleaned the contacts with a sheet of paper twice. So I am still looking for a reason why the dit paddle occasionally sends a dah. And, as I mentioned in my original post, RF is a very unlikely problem at 100 mw into a good dummy load. Ken, N9QIL __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] (OT) For Sale LP-Pan Panadapter
$125.00 shipped US. Serial 0146. Built by ham with 50+ years building experience, calibrated at factory by L8PN, June 2008. Mint condition. Inquiries direct at mycall at arrl dot net. Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement
On 2/25/2012 7:56 PM, kevinr wrote: > Sunday 2300z (Sunday 3 PM PST) 14050 kHz > Monday 0100z (Sunday 5 PM PST) 7045 kHz > > Don't think we'll be home by 0100Z Kevin. Next week. 73, Fred K6DGW TDY Sparks NV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] (K3) KPA-250 (sort of)
After quite a bit of modification&dickering with an open-frame dc relay that I had hoped would work as TR relay, it appears it needs to be inside a totally shielded enclosure. I'm getting feedback into amp thru the relay that is causing it to generate RF without drive (oscillate). I need a relay that can be included inside the amplifier enclosure so probably will investigate some HD SPDT pcb relays and separate the input relay from the output relay. Amp is running well with just input and output coax lines. So I checked into the Elecraft SSB Net with the barefoot K3/10 today (14w). I did use the new coax lines that will serve the amp and the QRO tuner (Drake MN2000). Drake power meter is generous when compared with my Bird43 (with 500H element). New stations block diagram: http://www.kl7uw.com/2012_Station.jpg I will post more info on the amplifier here: http://www.kl7uw.com/HF-300PA.htm Got to run the snowblower so my wife can get thru the 2-foot snow drift to the Sunday paper! 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com "Kits made by KL7UW" http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm == __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Low sensitivity on K2...
Robin, What filter were you using when doing the sensitivity measurements? Did you use the same filter width for each? If they both have the KSB2 installed, try doing a comparison with the OP1 filter selected. Is one K2 above SN 3000 and the other below 3000? If so, yes there may be differences. The very early K2s had a winding ratio of 13:4 on T7 while the newer ones use a 20:5 ratio - that will account for about a 3 dB difference.The early K2s IF crystals did not make a consistent filter as the newer crystals. The newer crystals are installed in all K2s above SN 2560. There may be differences in the AGC settings that will change the apparent response - turn AGC off when making similar checks. There can be significant differences introduced by the filter alignment. I suggest using Spectrogram (or Spectrum Lab or other audio spectrum analyzer) to look at the filter shape and the output level - dB above the noise floor makes a good comparison, while raw signal amplitude does not compare well because the AF Gain will not be set the same. The K2 Dial Calibration article on my website www.w3fpr.com has information about setting the K2 filters if you are not familiar with all the steps involved. If the above does not resolve it for you, you may have to build up the crystal oscillator shown in the Troubleshooting section of the manual and do Receive Signal Tracing on both K2s to find where the difference is coming from. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/26/2012 11:51 AM, Robin Kiszka wrote: > I have two K2s, and I find on one of them that the sensitivity is much lower. > I see this when doing a test with an XG1 signal generator. > > The problem is that the "low sensitivity" rig is one that I bought built, > while the one that works fine is a rig I built myself. I have tried to > reallign the rig, but without much improvement to say the least. It just > seems that AF gain is far more responsive on my own built rig, and this is > accross all bands. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Low sensitivity on K2...
Thanks for the replies. I can try to answer as follows: The "good" rig is in the 3800 series, and has: KDSP2, KAT2, KBT2, KSB2, KNB1, K160RX, KIO2 The "weak" rig is 5900 series and has: KAF2, KPA100, KSB2, KNB1, K160RX, KIO2 I have used spectogram, but not for the 5900 series rig. I did a quick VAC measurement across the speaker and found that the good rig had a poweful 2 VAC, while the weak rig had as low as 0.5 VAC. I did some reading and tried to check the settings of R1 on the local board against the VDC on pin 5 of U2 on the weak rig. It looked OK close to the 3.9 mark, but that was close to the edge of its run, just a slight tweak got the DCV up to about 1.3 VAC on the speaker - though audio was beginning to distort. On the good rig the audio is always good even though the same measurement gives 2 VAC. All these I tried using Preamp off and what I could regard as similar filter settings, though the two radios have different filtering techniques, DSP vs. non-DSP. But that said, I was listening on 10m and could heard DX from state side on the good rig, but hardly audible on the weak rig, about S3 compared to S1. Maybe the DSP unit is preamplifying the signal and that's the issue? I did try switching the NB module in the rigs, it made no difference. I should have tried with the SSB unit as well, but didn't think about it at the time. Maybe this has shed some more light on the setup here. thanks again and 73 Robin OZ6ABM -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Low-sensitivity-on-K2-tp7319468p7319796.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Stereo phone plug on back of K3
Phil, See http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf 73, ~iain / N6ML On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 8:42 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: > Back around the time I got my K3 (serial number #3799) there were several > other K3 owners who had problems (like shorted audio circuit or something > like that) when they put a mono 3.5 mm plug into the stereo rear panel phones > outlet. > > I remember the warning: use stereo only for rear panel phones. > > Was this ever changed so that you can now (accidentally maybe) plug a mono > into the stereo and everything would be fine (accept for losing the stereo > channels in your ears). > > I have not done this but the question was raised when I was chatting with a > new K3 owner. > > 73, phil, K7PEH > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Firmware update process stalled K3
I wanted to install the latest firmware beta release (4.47). The process started, on the K3 display MCU LD appeared, but after a while the message appeared, that the update failed. The K3 stayed in the MCU LD mode and the K3 utility showed that there is a communication problem with the COM port. Trying to reactivate the COM communication failed with all possible COM ports my ELTIMA virtual port cable creates. Turning the K3 on and off didn't change anything, the MCU LD mode stays on. Also reinitializing the ports by turning the computer off and on again didn't change a thing, I could not get the COM port communication started again. Does anybody have an idea how to get back to normal without starting the EE INIT procedure (loosing all parameters)? Thanks in advance for your help!! Axel, DL3ZH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] (OT) SOLD LP-Pan Panadapter
The panadapter has been sold. Thanks for all the interest. Terry, W0FM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware update process stalled K3
Yes, the firmware load was interrupted. Go through the procedure described in K3 Utility Help, Troubleshooting, MCU Boot Loader. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Axel Kaiser Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:59 AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] Firmware update process stalled K3 I wanted to install the latest firmware beta release (4.47). The process started, on the K3 display MCU LD appeared, but after a while the message appeared, that the update failed. The K3 stayed in the MCU LD mode and the K3 utility showed that there is a communication problem with the COM port. Trying to reactivate the COM communication failed with all possible COM ports my ELTIMA virtual port cable creates. Turning the K3 on and off didn't change anything, the MCU LD mode stays on. Also reinitializing the ports by turning the computer off and on again didn't change a thing, I could not get the COM port communication started again. Does anybody have an idea how to get back to normal without starting the EE INIT procedure (loosing all parameters)? Thanks in advance for your help!! Axel, DL3ZH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft Rig Comparisons
The Elecraft web page that shows the rig comparisons includes part of Sherwood Engineering's table of performance comparison metrics. I think a nice addition to the Elecraft web site is such a similar comparison matrix for the Elecraft rigs -- certainly there are enough now to have a fairly descent comparison. So, I am thinking of the K1, KX1, KX3, K2, and K3 rigs where receiver performance metrics are displayed in matrix format just like the Sherwood Engineering. Maybe Elecraft can contract Sherwood Engineering to do the actual measurements. And, a similar feature comparison page would be useful. Again, there is a growing list of transceiver products where a feature comparison would be beneficial -- especially to those new to the Elecraft lineup. 73, phil, K7PEH __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft's Business Model
Let's not drift too far afield. Time to close OT Apple portion of this thread. 73, Eric Elecraft List Modulator ;-) www.elecraft.com _..._ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Key Down Amps
Actually, this is the thread that contained the Apple portion I wanted to close. :-) 73, Eric List Moderator too. www.elecraft.com _..._ On Feb 25, 2012, at 1:04 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote: > Not quite comparable Rick, as Apple is still doing the same kind of > business: computers. The iPhone is nothing else. ;-)) > > But what do monitors/displays have to do with amateur radios/transceivers? > They are not only worlds but universes apart. ;-)) > > 73, Olli - DH8BQA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Key Down Amps - Now really OT!
As a student of these issues, I dissagree. Its telling from your comments that a lot of you come from an Engineering perspective. And while I can understand that because of my engineering background, my marketing background knows better. Customer support is paramount in the success of any product, from toasters to transceivers. The core competency of Apple is not their Hardware, which is competent, but not overwhelmingly so. It is not their software either, which is also competent, but also not overwhelmingly so. The core competency of Apple is their CULTURE MARKETING PROWESS! They create a "cult" for their products that "sticks" after the sale. This creates goodwill for the eventual screw-up. They invest in creating disciples from users. This is true in my field: Broadcast Engineering... Panasonic had product just as good, and in many respects, very superior to Sony. But everybody in Newsgathering circles wanted a Betacam SP camcorder on their shoulder and not a M-II camcorder. Because Sony knew how to create customer loyalty with responsiveness. Or in digital video effects, Abekas Video Systems vs Ampex. I lived through those. Elecraft is like Apple (or Abekas or Sony), not necesarily because of their extremely effective technology; It helps, but its not everything... Yaesu's FT5000 and Kenwood's TS590 are competent competitors, one above and one below K3's price point. Elecraft is exceptional partly because of us, their customers, who care so much as to give input and evangelize the product. And because they listen to us and respect our opinion, they galvanize the relationship beyond the sale of the product. Eric and Wayne are smart because they understand that their next successful products lie in our imaginations, not just theirs. An they care enough about us customers to listen and support us with uncompromising responsiveness. I believe this is a top down directive in Elecraft's corporate culture from what I have been able to discern. Unfortunately, its the first thing that gets cut in the "comglomerization" of a startup... Ive experienced that firsthand... And I hope it never happens to Elecraft! Lucky are those companies with customer-evangelists. Treat them well, and they insure continued success. Because there simply is no better marketing that customer-word-of-mouth. You cannot buy that at any price with any technology, no matter how good the product is. Lu Romero - W4LT K3. P3, K1 --- Message: 9 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:58:56 -0500 From: Ian Kahn - Ham Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Key Down Amps To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: <4f494b90.9010...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Actually, Cookie, if you read Steve Jobs' biography, you will find he's quite adamant about Apple's core competency. It is *their* hardware, *their* software, the integration between the two, and, most importantly, the whole end-user experience using and interacting with that hardware and software. 73, --Ian Ian Kahn, KM4IK Roswell, GA km4ik@gmail.com K3 #281, P3 #688 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Firmware update process stalled K3
Thanks Dick for your help! It did do the job, I had to disconnect mymicroham microKeyer II , then it worked. So reading the help files sometimes really helps! Thanks again and 73 Axel, DL3ZH > From: die...@comcast.net > To: dl2...@hotmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Firmware update process stalled K3 > Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2012 12:34:26 -0800 > > Yes, the firmware load was interrupted. > > Go through the procedure described in K3 Utility Help, Troubleshooting, MCU > Boot Loader. > > 73 de Dick, K6KR > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Axel Kaiser > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 11:59 AM > To: Elecraft Reflector > Subject: [Elecraft] Firmware update process stalled K3 > > > I wanted to install the latest firmware beta release (4.47). > The process started, on the K3 display MCU LD appeared, but after a while > the message appeared, that the update failed. > The K3 stayed in the MCU LD mode and the K3 utility showed that there is a > communication problem with the COM port. > Trying to reactivate the COM communication failed with all possible COM > ports my ELTIMA virtual port cable creates. > Turning the K3 on and off didn't change anything, the MCU LD mode stays on. > Also reinitializing the ports by turning the computer off and on again > didn't change a thing, I could not get the COM port communication started > again. > > Does anybody have an idea how to get back to normal without starting the EE > INIT procedure (loosing all parameters)? > > Thanks in advance for your help!! > > Axel, DL3ZH > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/0 documentation?
Hi Wayne, Eric & all, before ordering a K3/0 I would like to take a look into the manuals, i.e. builders guide, etc. to see what is different to the K3/10 or K3/100 and what connections are needed. Haven't found it on the website yet - any time schedule when it will be available? Tnx! Vy 73, Olli - DH8BQA http://www.dh8bqa.de __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Key Down Amps - Now really OT!
Lu Romero - W4LT wrote > > The core competency of Apple is their CULTURE MARKETING PROWESS! > I disagree...Apple has gone far beyond where it could have with only cult followers. Apple's advantage is in its broad vision of an ecosystem encompassing all of their products including content. iPod + iTunes, iPhone + iTunes + App Store, iPad + iTunes + App Store + iCloud. iPod + iPhone + iPad all sharing some human interfaces consistently focused on ease of use, which makes it easy for customers to migrate to new products. Hardware, software and content are synergistic across all products, making it difficult for a competitor to break into their system even with a better component. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-Key-Down-Amps-Now-really-OT-tp7319989p7320230.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB Net results (2/26/12)
We had a good net today with good propagation. We had 35 participants over a 30 minute period. Discussion topics were the KPA3 connector pin replacement mod (anybody with experience on this?) and whether there is a location that lists all of the K3 mods and their serial number indications (is there?). Have a great week. Here is the list of participants. Station NameQTH Rig S/N K4TMCaryVA K3 3448 KC5RY George TX K3 5208 KG0PP Jim CO K3 K4GCJ Gerry NC K3 1597 KB8KE Ken OH K3 6069 K8EAG Gil MI K3 99 N1OXA IvanME K3 4538 W7NMD Palmer AR K3 3779 AD5SX PaulNM K3 4645 KG9DNormTN K3 1304 W4PFM PaulVA K3 1673 N4FZGeneKY K3 4128 AG6AZ Keith CA K3 1391 AB8DF Ed MI K3 QRP W0RSR MikeCO K2 5767 AC0NM Glenn CA K3 2843 W2RWA DickNY K3 2603 KA0IYS BillAZ IC718 K1NWBrian RI K3 4974 K5PFR PaulTX Ten Tec Scout W0FMTerry MO K3 474 AB8YK Jim OH K3 5369 W6VYBob CA K3 5788 KB3FBR Joe PA K2 6178QRP KA0NCR Arnie NE K3 185 NZ0TBillKS K3 1502 AB7CE Roy MT K2 40 QRP KL7UW Ed AK K3 4043QRP KE5RBS Kelvin AR K2 7162QRP NT1RBillME K3 124 KE5GBC MikeTX K3 5047 K6YNP MikeCA TS520 KE4DJohnTX K3 6226 K0JWC Jim MN K3 3447 NS7PPhilOR K3 1826 73, Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] Key Down Amps - Now really OT!
> Hardware, software and content are synergistic across all products, > making it difficult for a competitor to break into their system even > with a better component. Don't worry ... the US Department of Justice and EU Competition Commission will decide The App Store/iTunes are anti-competitive five years *after* Apple has managed to drive all of the other manufacturers and content suppliers out of the market . 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2/26/2012 6:09 PM, Bill W4ZV wrote: > > Lu Romero - W4LT wrote >> >> The core competency of Apple is their CULTURE MARKETING PROWESS! >> > > I disagree...Apple has gone far beyond where it could have with only cult > followers. > > Apple's advantage is in its broad vision of an ecosystem encompassing all of > their products including content. iPod + iTunes, iPhone + iTunes + App > Store, iPad + iTunes + App Store + iCloud. iPod + iPhone + iPad all sharing > some human interfaces consistently focused on ease of use, which makes it > easy for customers to migrate to new products. Hardware, software and > content are synergistic across all products, making it difficult for a > competitor to break into their system even with a better component. > > 73, Bill W4ZV > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Re-Key-Down-Amps-Now-really-OT-tp7319989p7320230.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K1 For Sale
This K1 is a GREAT radio. I'm always impressed by it when I've taken it out camping, or on field day, or when I'm at home. The ATU matches just about anything you can put in the trees! This is a 2-band version (70Khz band spread - can be changed to 150Khz) (20 and 40 mtrs installed) with an extra KFL1-2 Two-Band board (for 15 and 30 mtrs). It has the KAT1 Internal Automatic Antenna Tuner (ATU), KBT1 Internal Battery Adapter, KNB1 Noise Blanker, KTS1 Wide-Range Tilt Stand and the FDIMP FingerDimple. I also have the K1BKLTKIT K1 Back light kit but it's not yet built and installed. The power cord has Anderson power poles. The original manual is also included. I also have the original speaker/case top that was replaced when the KBT1 internal battery adapter was installed. This radio is in excellent physical shape and operates as good as it looks. I'd like to get $490 plus shipping (est $23 w/ins) Current price list for all this is $676.60. Only selling to so I can buy a KX3. 73, -Ed,WG5F- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K1 For Sale
Sorry - I should have listed an e-mail address for off-list replies to the K1 that's for sale. E-mail: ed at meyertribe dot com Thanks and 73, -Ed, WG5F- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Looking for K2 PCB
I would like to do some experiments with the K2 VFO. If someone has a dead (or unbuilt) K2 VFO/PLL PCB, I would be interested in it. Trades and/or a small amount of cash would be available. This is strictly for personal interest - I have attempted to replicate K2 VFO performance using ugly construction and have failed :) 73, ian K3IMW Z __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
