Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51

[Gary Gregory]

*Toby,

Same results here.

Gary
*
On 12 May 2012 13:55, Toby Pennington  wrote:

> I don't know what others have been experiencing using the new 4.51
> firmware version,  but I really think it is an improvement.
>
> I have been listening to pileups tonight on 20 meters and cannot discern
> any mushy weak cw signals,   signals are crisp and easily readable.
>
> Maybe I need bigger pileups to get a better handle on this aspect, or
> certain band conditions.   I run the threshold at 14 and the AGC SLP is set
> to 000.
>
> The Noise Blanker is improved.   I was able to get rid of s7 line noise,
>  and no distortion in the audio of the received signal.  NB settings are
> dsp T2-4,  and the IF is NAR 4.  So,  the noise is being eliminatd with low
> setting of the NB.  I suppose the real test will be when I hear  s9 plus
> line noise which I frequently get here.
>
> AF Gain is set to LO in the config menu and have plenty of nice and crisp
> audio. I am listening to SSB on 80 meters now and have the RF gain set to
> about 9:00 and AF gain about 12 oclock.  Just lots of gain and audio.
>
> I think 4.51 is ready to go BETA.   What do others who are using 4.51
> think?
>
>
> Toby  W4CAK
>
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: Windows4P3 Status

[Adrian]

Thanks Tom, the link here for the un informed;

http://va2fsq.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Windows4P3-097.zip

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] FW: Windows4P3 Status


> Version 0.97 is up.  Fixed some nasty bugs.
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Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

I just got it tonight.  I have not had much chance to compare but the NB 
in 4.50 is much better!  A curious unexpected side effect!

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On 5/11/2012 9:55 PM, Toby Pennington wrote:
> I don't know what others have been experiencing using the new 4.51 firmware 
> version,  but I really think it is an improvement.
>
> I have been listening to pileups tonight on 20 meters and cannot discern any 
> mushy weak cw signals,   signals are crisp and easily readable.
>
> Maybe I need bigger pileups to get a better handle on this aspect, or certain 
> band conditions.   I run the threshold at 14 and the AGC SLP is set to 000.
>
> The Noise Blanker is improved.   I was able to get rid of s7 line noise,  and 
> no distortion in the audio of the received signal.  NB settings are dsp T2-4, 
>  and the IF is NAR 4.  So,  the noise is being eliminatd with low setting of 
> the NB.  I suppose the real test will be when I hear  s9 plus line noise 
> which I frequently get here.
>
> AF Gain is set to LO in the config menu and have plenty of nice and crisp 
> audio. I am listening to SSB on 80 meters now and have the RF gain set to 
> about 9:00 and AF gain about 12 oclock.  Just lots of gain and audio.
>
> I think 4.51 is ready to go BETA.   What do others who are using 4.51 think?
>
>
> Toby  W4CAK
>
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: Windows4P3 Status

[tomb18]

Version 0.97 is up.  Fixed some nasty bugs.

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[Elecraft] K3 ITEMS 4 SALE

[Gerald Hughes]

Inrad # 701  8 pole  400 Hz Roofing filter   $110 shipped

Inrad # 709  8 pole  2.1 KHz Roofing filter $110 shipped
 or $200 for both shipped (cont US)
Elecraft Hex paddle  mint  $135 shipped
73, Jerry  AC7RO  ac7...@yahoo.com
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[Elecraft] MCU 4.51

[Toby Pennington]

I don't know what others have been experiencing using the new 4.51 firmware 
version,  but I really think it is an improvement.

I have been listening to pileups tonight on 20 meters and cannot discern any 
mushy weak cw signals,   signals are crisp and easily readable.

Maybe I need bigger pileups to get a better handle on this aspect, or certain 
band conditions.   I run the threshold at 14 and the AGC SLP is set to 000.

The Noise Blanker is improved.   I was able to get rid of s7 line noise,  and 
no distortion in the audio of the received signal.  NB settings are dsp T2-4,  
and the IF is NAR 4.  So,  the noise is being eliminatd with low setting of the 
NB.  I suppose the real test will be when I hear  s9 plus line noise which I 
frequently get here. 

AF Gain is set to LO in the config menu and have plenty of nice and crisp 
audio. I am listening to SSB on 80 meters now and have the RF gain set to about 
9:00 and AF gain about 12 oclock.  Just lots of gain and audio.  

I think 4.51 is ready to go BETA.   What do others who are using 4.51 think?


Toby  W4CAK

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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

That was also  a common sign at Lockheed Missiles and Space in Sunnyvale CA
in the 1960's. In those days we had a great many German engineers who came
to the USA after WWII and who by then had been here long enough to start
getting security clearances. I still recall the German engineer boss I had
who bought Siemens test equipment for me to use and handed me the manuals to
study, all in German. That's when I learned that a Rauschpeggelmesser was
really a "noise level meter" among many other things German, Hi! 

Those were good times...

73, Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of dm...@nexicom.net
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 1:11 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day


I like it

  we used to have the same warning in the control booth at a local community
theatre.




David Moes
VE3DVY


On Friday 11/05/2012 at 3:39 pm, Buck - k4ia  wrote:
> I've taken mine out on Field Day for the past 3 years. Not a problem.
>
> If you're really worried, use the K3 utility to back up your settings
> and you can restore pretty easily.
>
> If that doesn't work, post the following:
>
> ACHTUNG!
> Alles touristen und non-technischen look unds peepers!
>
> Das machin kontrol is nicht fur dial gespinnen, finger gepoken und
> mitten grabben.
> Uderwise ist easy schnappen der springenverk, blowen fuzen, und poppen
> corken mit spitzen sparken.
>
> Der radio machine ist fur experten operator.
> Ist nicht fur geverken by dumpkopfen.
>
> Rubber necken zighten seers keepen sur cotton picken hands in sur 
> pockets.
>
> Pencil necken geeken farbs - relaxen, und vatchen das blinken lights.
>
> Buck
> k4ia

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 update

[Fred Jensen]

Yes, I'm waiting too.  However I also am looking for the same Elecraft 
quality I'm so very used to when I get it.  I have some distant [12 
years retired] understanding of engineering, and I don't want something 
that someone just soldered together.  I've gotten that before, I'm 
learning. :-)

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 5/11/2012 7:08 PM, Paul Horenstein K2PH wrote:
> Yes ! Soon, please.
>
> Paul K2PH

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[Elecraft] ex road qarrior...portable ant

[Ussvdharma]

I used to traveo 51 weeks a year..
had swan ant tuner and long wire...out the widow to what ever was handy80 
meters

If you don't change direction you'll arrive where you're headed!Sent from my 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 update

[Paul Horenstein K2PH]

Yes ! Soon, please.

Paul K2PH



-Original Message-
From: Wayne Burdick 
To: Elecraft Reflector 
Sent: Fri, May 11, 2012 8:25 pm
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 update


The KAT500 500 W+ ATU is shaping up nicely with the latest hardware  
and firmware. One of our engineers found that it easily and quickly  
matched his 23-foot flagpole antenna on 160-6 meters. A certain very  
popular competing ATU (which shall not be named) found a match only on  
40-10 meters on the same antenna.

We'll have more test results and pricing soon.

Wayne
N6KR

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 order backlog

[Don Wilhelm]

Mike,

Elecraft has been as responsive as
I consider "more than reasonable" about the shipping status.  The time 
for current orders will decrease until they are shipping 
"off-the-shelf"  but unfortunately that is not the current situation .

In other words,  I do not have a good answer to your question.   The 
website suggests 90 to 120 days, and I would believe that is the best 
guess you can get.

I am sorry that I cannot provide more specific information.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/11/2012 9:42 PM, wf8o wrote:
> I am interested in ordering a KX3, but worry about how long till my order
> might be filled.
> Is it likely that if I wait several months that shipping will become
> current?
>
> Sincerely
>
> Mike Narges WF8O
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 order backlog

[Rob May]

The sooner you order it, the sooner you get it.  They don't charge your credit 
card until they ship and you can cancel the order at anytime.  In fact, they'll 
send you an email right before it's shipped to confirm everything.  There is no 
downside to ordering now if you want one.

Rob
NV5E

KX3 98
K3 1417
P3 517
KPA500 112


> Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 18:42:16 -0700
> From: mnar...@woh.rr.com
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 order backlog
>
> I am interested in ordering a KX3, but worry about how long till my order
> might be filled.
> Is it likely that if I wait several months that shipping will become
> current?
>
> Sincerely
>
> Mike Narges WF8O
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[Elecraft] KX3 order backlog

[wf8o]

I am interested in ordering a KX3, but worry about how long till my order
might be filled.
Is it likely that if I wait several months that shipping will become
current?

Sincerely

Mike Narges WF8O

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[Elecraft] bird wattmeter sold

[John Cooper]

spoken for thanks 

WT5Y
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 update

[Jim Wiley]

Wayne et al -


Do you anticipate, obviously at some future date, a mobile version of 
the KAT-500 that will work with a typical 9-foot whip?   Perhaps not for 
160  and 6 meters, but at least 80 through 10 meters?


- Jim, KL7CC



Wayne Burdick wrote:
> The KAT500 500 W+ ATU is shaping up nicely with the latest hardware  
> and firmware. One of our engineers found that it easily and quickly  
> matched his 23-foot flagpole antenna on 160-6 meters. A certain very  
> popular competing ATU (which shall not be named) found a match only on  
> 40-10 meters on the same antenna.
>
> We'll have more test results and pricing soon.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[Jim Lowman]

I have a Sigma-5 from Force 12 when Tom owned the company, and haven't
really tried it out.  Being retired now and having more time to play with
antennas, and with the nice weather that we've been having, I'm having
all kinds of fun.  Just put together the Alexloop Walkham late yesterday.

Hopefully, the Sigma-5 will perform similarly to your Sigma 40XK.

72/73 de Jim - AD6CW


On 5/11/2012 4:52 PM, Dyarnes wrote:
> David and All,
>
> I have a Bravo 7K, and so far, I find it to be only a "fair" performer.
> This assessment is based only on limited testing against my Sigma 40XK
> vertical dipole, which is another N6BT design from his time as owner of
> Force12.  So far, I've only been able to run limited A/B tests on 40 meters,
> and the Bravo 7K is down about 1 S unit or more.  I had hoped it would be
> much better than that, particularly based on the positive commentary from
> N6BT himself, but I do need to try more variations of location and setup.  I
> just haven't had a chance to do much additional testing due to a number of
> other tasks and projects which are eating up my free time.
>
> On the positive side, I am quite impressed with the portability of the Bravo
> 7K.  It sets up quickly and easily, and is very easy to break down and
> transport.  It's quite possible I haven't found the right combination of
> settings and location for the Bravo 7K.  For example, it may be adversely
> affected by other nearby objects.  I'd also like to elevate it a bit more
> than what the basic system allows.  As supplied, the Bravo 7K is only about
> 2 feet off the ground at the bottom.  My Sigma 40XK is 5 or 6 feet off the
> ground.
>
> I will tell you that the Sigma 40XK has been a very good performer on 40
> meters.  At one time it was available for something similar in price to what
> the Bravo 7K sells for now, but the current owners of Force 12 have jacked
> up the price considerably.
>
> Anyway, hopefully some day soon I can get back into the experimentation
> process with the Bravo 7K.  If I accomplish anything noteworthy, I will
> report it here.
>
> Dave W7AQK
>
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[david Moes]

Thanks Bill and to all the othersyou all have given great info  
here.  lots to plan.  and Id enjoy reading others experiences as well  
bad or good.I will have to spend some time to figure out what to do 
with the function keys.   and think about  the briefing.  The one issue 
I have is the mic gain has to be adjusted quite a bit when switching to 
the FP mic  only one of our opps has the tendency to play a bit and will 
get the polite riot act reading.

on a partly related topic when I save the config  will it also save 
the tuners memories?if I have to restore the config will I have to 
"retrain" the tuner.this is not hard using the K3 EZ  but should 
problems happen and I dont have to do the tuner thing that will be nice.





On 5/11/2012 6:04 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> Last year I was in charge of our GOTA station. I was told,
> "We'll have a K2 for you." Well, I'd never used a K2 so I
> downloaded the manual from the Elecraft site and printed it
> thinking that I would need to continuously refer to it like I
> have to with my Yaesu and Icom radios. The UI on the K2 was so
> well designed that the printed copy stayed in my bag. It was
> user friendly out of the box. And I am far from being an
> experienced HF operator (except on PSK).
>
> I think the K3 is in the same category. I have CONFIG:TECH-MD
> turned off on my K3 and would certainly recommend that setting
> for field day. Having a laptop available to be able to reload
> the config and firmware would be prudent.
>
> My K3 will see service in the GOTA tent this year while I'm on
> the opposite side of the country trying to make contacts with
> the I-706 in my SUV. My club, WVARA, runs a QRP operation and
> has experienced GOTA coaches, so my bare-bones K3 should survive
> the event quite nicely.
>
> Cheers - Bill, AE6JV
>
> On 5/11/12 at 9:29, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:
>
>> Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably
>> wont know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as
>> possible and lock out as much as possible in the menus to
>> prevent it from being messed up.
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[Elecraft] KAT500 update

[Wayne Burdick]

The KAT500 500 W+ ATU is shaping up nicely with the latest hardware  
and firmware. One of our engineers found that it easily and quickly  
matched his 23-foot flagpole antenna on 160-6 meters. A certain very  
popular competing ATU (which shall not be named) found a match only on  
40-10 meters on the same antenna.

We'll have more test results and pricing soon.

Wayne
N6KR

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[Elecraft] Bird 43 Wattmeter

[John Cooper]

I have a Bird 43 Wattmeter I refurbished ( repainted, added a new plastic 
carrying handle) with following slugs.  Can take pics if wanted.  Asking 
$200obo shipped to your QTH.  Paypal only.

250W  50-125MHZ
500W 2-30MHZ
100W 100-250MHZ
25W 50-125MC
50W 200-500MC


John Cooper  WT5Y
409-499-6690
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[Elecraft] fluke 187 and i410 clamp for sale

[John Cooper]

True RMS meter model Fluke 187 and i410 current clamp attachment, set of 
regular probes, set of clamp gripper probes, and fluke carrying pouches for 
both.  Meter also has the magnet strap for it.  Can take pics if interested.  
Asking $300 shipped to your QTH.  Paypal only please.


John Cooper WT5Y
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[Dyarnes]

David and All,

I have a Bravo 7K, and so far, I find it to be only a "fair" performer. 
This assessment is based only on limited testing against my Sigma 40XK 
vertical dipole, which is another N6BT design from his time as owner of 
Force12.  So far, I've only been able to run limited A/B tests on 40 meters, 
and the Bravo 7K is down about 1 S unit or more.  I had hoped it would be 
much better than that, particularly based on the positive commentary from 
N6BT himself, but I do need to try more variations of location and setup.  I 
just haven't had a chance to do much additional testing due to a number of 
other tasks and projects which are eating up my free time.

On the positive side, I am quite impressed with the portability of the Bravo 
7K.  It sets up quickly and easily, and is very easy to break down and 
transport.  It's quite possible I haven't found the right combination of 
settings and location for the Bravo 7K.  For example, it may be adversely 
affected by other nearby objects.  I'd also like to elevate it a bit more 
than what the basic system allows.  As supplied, the Bravo 7K is only about 
2 feet off the ground at the bottom.  My Sigma 40XK is 5 or 6 feet off the 
ground.

I will tell you that the Sigma 40XK has been a very good performer on 40 
meters.  At one time it was available for something similar in price to what 
the Bravo 7K sells for now, but the current owners of Force 12 have jacked 
up the price considerably.

Anyway, hopefully some day soon I can get back into the experimentation 
process with the Bravo 7K.  If I accomplish anything noteworthy, I will 
report it here.

Dave W7AQK



-
David, G3UNA said:

I wouldn't buy a loop.  IF you only have those 3 choices, I would go for
the Buddipole, but I'm sure there must be other choices out there, I
don't like spending a lot of money on antennas unless it offers
something really special.  Have you seen the Bravo?

See   http://n6bt.com/n6bt-Bravo-dayton-faq-1.htm

Not sure if it would fit inside your hotel bedroom.

David
G3UNA 

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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 97, Issue 22

[N4CW]

In a message dated 5/10/2012 3:10:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net writes:

The K3  was still receiving fine at
the reduced voltage (my low voltage is set at  11V), but the 232 port
clearly was not.

That's similar to the experience I had when operating mobile/rover  using a 
separate AGM battery whose level was somewhere below 12.5 VDC (if I  recall 
correctly). I haven't had time to pursue the problem with Elecraft tech  
support. Clearly, I'm not alone saying the RS-232 port on the K3 sometimes  
doesn't do well below a certain voltage, yet the remainder of the K3 runs just 
 fine!
 
Bert, N4CW

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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[Phil Kane]

On 5/11/2012 3:22 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> I'd not be surprised to see someone operating an HF rig without
> permission have their equipment confiscated until returning to port
> and possibly find themselves banned from future passages on the ships
> of that line.

Remember also that operation on a vessel on the high seas is subject to
the laws of the country in which the vessel is registered, and those may
give the master the authority to confiscate the equipment and not return
it.  Scary.

 --
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100   s/n 5402

>From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[Don Wilhelm]

I agree.  I have used my K3 at Field Day the last 2 years.  It was used 
as the CW or data mode station.  If you do not allow it to be open and 
"pawed" by all the folks passing by, it will be OK.  The operators who 
are using the K3 can be informed quickly about the necessary controls - 
VFO A, shift/width, any memories that have been pre-programmed (M1-M4 
buttons).  For those using their K3s for SSB, there is a lock menu 
function that can lock the mic gain, compression and VOX settings.  Yes, 
if any menu changes are required, those should be made by someone who 
knows what they are doing - preferably the K3 owner.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/11/2012 5:19 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On 5/11/2012 10:42 AM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote:
>> We ( Vienna Wireless Society) have had multiple Elecraft K3s our for our
>> field day.
> I've had nothing but good experience on the four occasions when I've
> taken my K3s to Field Day and California QSO Party County expeditions.
> We've always had good operators using them, although not all had
> experience with K3s.
>
> The key is to set up the radio so that all the needed functions are on
> the front panel for the accessories that are plugged into it, and for
> the planned modes of operation.  Make it clear that everyone is to use
> the computer, logging software, mic, and keyer provided. With a CM500
> plugged into the rear panel, it's easy for a second operator to plug a
> second set of headphones into the front panel connector.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

The fishing pole gambit is a favorite for vacationers who want to do some
stealth operating from their seaside rentals. They take a surf fishing pole
- some are 20 feet long when assembled - and do like many surf fishermen
when not on the surf. They prop them up assembled on their balcony rather
than break them down. Makes a convenient vertical antenna support that looks
nothing like an antenna :-)

I'm assuming you had the Captain's permission to operate from the ship. My
experience is on tankers, container ships, bulk carriers, etc., but from
what I understand it is generally not hard to get permission to operate on
many cruise ships, however; the Captain's permission is mandatory. 

Here's why. Modern shipboard communications gear uses frequencies throughout
the HF spectrum from 2 to 30 MHz close to the HF Ham bands. Sure, routinely
they use satellite comms, but also use HF because it is cheaper (ships pay
air-time for satellites). They use TOR (teleprinting over radio) as well as
SSB voice on the various HF frequencies. Like us Hams, they shift around the
HF spectrum as needed to communicate with the desired stations based on the
current HF propagation, time of day, etc. The shipboard HF equipment is also
part of the key Safety of Life at Sea (SOLAS) system used for emergency
communications whenever they are too far from shore for VHF. And since that
shipboard gear is designed to be used at sea far from other transmitters, it
does not necessarily have the sort of "bulletproof" front end like the
Elecraft rigs to protect it from overload from a nearby HF transmitter. 

Consequently, any HF transmitter someone operates on board without the
Captain's knowledge violates a whole bucket-full of international treaties,
regulations and maritime laws. 

Of course, cell phones, smart phones, etc., are expected, but an HF
transmitter is something quite different. 

I'd not be surprised to see someone operating an HF rig without permission
have their equipment confiscated until returning to port and possibly find
themselves banned from future passages on the ships of that line.  

73, Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

about 4 years ago i successfully used a telescoping crappie fishing 
pole or a folding shock-rope tent pole I forget which   on a cruise 
ship balcony with my k2.  we were up maybe 80-100 feet above the water..

The #22 line went out to the end of the pole (12-??ft)  then dropped down
another maybe 25 feetwith a gnd to the railing.., worked the EU  from
the Carib just fine

I tried to be stealthy about it  about the third day  the folks in the
adjacent  room were on their balcony and saw me 
and she started hollering at me to get my attention
SHE WANTED TO LET ME KNOW THE BAIT FELL OFF...really

bill ny9h/3


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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[Bill Frantz]

Last year I was in charge of our GOTA station. I was told, 
"We'll have a K2 for you." Well, I'd never used a K2 so I 
downloaded the manual from the Elecraft site and printed it 
thinking that I would need to continuously refer to it like I 
have to with my Yaesu and Icom radios. The UI on the K2 was so 
well designed that the printed copy stayed in my bag. It was 
user friendly out of the box. And I am far from being an 
experienced HF operator (except on PSK).

I think the K3 is in the same category. I have CONFIG:TECH-MD 
turned off on my K3 and would certainly recommend that setting 
for field day. Having a laptop available to be able to reload 
the config and firmware would be prudent.

My K3 will see service in the GOTA tent this year while I'm on 
the opposite side of the country trying to make contacts with 
the I-706 in my SUV. My club, WVARA, runs a QRP operation and 
has experienced GOTA coaches, so my bare-bones K3 should survive 
the event quite nicely.

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

On 5/11/12 at 9:29, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:

>Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably 
>wont know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as 
>possible and lock out as much as possible in the menus to 
>prevent it from being messed up.
---
Bill Frantz|"Web security is like medicine - trying to 
do good for
408-356-8506   |an evolved body of kludges" - Mark Miller
www.pwpconsult.com |

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: New K3 + Accessories

[Gary Herbst]

I am reducing the price to $2800 plus shipping/insurance. By the way the K3
and all that was ordered with it was factory assembled. Also everything
indicated is new, cables, still in sealed wrappers and packaging. So as new
as if you just bought it direct from each manufacturer. Just not going to
have the time nor resources to get a shack setup given my son's medical
issues.

Gary-

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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[Jim Brown]

On 5/11/2012 10:42 AM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote:
> We ( Vienna Wireless Society) have had multiple Elecraft K3s our for our
> field day.

I've had nothing but good experience on the four occasions when I've 
taken my K3s to Field Day and California QSO Party County expeditions. 
We've always had good operators using them, although not all had 
experience with K3s.

The key is to set up the radio so that all the needed functions are on 
the front panel for the accessories that are plugged into it, and for 
the planned modes of operation.  Make it clear that everyone is to use 
the computer, logging software, mic, and keyer provided. With a CM500 
plugged into the rear panel, it's easy for a second operator to plug a 
second set of headphones into the front panel connector.

During the setup period, run through all the combinations of bands and 
antennas and let the antenna tuner memorize tuning for each band.  Make 
sure that power is set where you want it, either QRP or 100 watts (I'm 
one of those who believes that Field Day is a QRP or 100W contest).  Set 
the TXEQ, audio levels, and compression properly.

Now, everything an operator needs is on clearly labeled front panel 
knobs and buttons. When a new op is ready to sit down, while the guy 
he's replacing is still operating, show him/her where the controls are 
that are needed.  Make it clear that everything else is all set, and 
that touching the menus is verbotten.  And be sure to show him any 
antenna switching that apply during his shift.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Receiver

[hawley, charles j jr]

I thought it would be a pain to take out and in, but it's just time. No real 
issue. You also have to take it out for the main receiver filters, so you might 
want to fill that up to what you will want.

Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
behalf of Jim Brown [j...@audiosystemsgroup.com]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:20 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Receiver

On 5/11/2012 9:42 AM, Larry Boekeloo wrote:
> I am looking at adding the sub-receiver too.  Is that as daunting as it looks?

It's a bit of a shoe-horn job to cram the sub-RX into the chassis once
you've got it built, but otherwise no big deal. It's not bad enough to
avoid doing, but enough of a PITA that you'd like to avoid taking it out
and putting it back in. :)  For that reason, I STRONGLY suggest that you
buy and install whatever options (including filters) that you think
you're going to want at the same time you're adding the sub-RX.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[Jim Lowman]

One of the gang brought his K3 to Field Day last year, but I think he 
was pretty much the sole op.
We operate in the four-transmitter class, so there isn't much need even 
to change bands.
Although, we've had pretty much an exclusive K2 Field Day since they 
were available.

I remember when I got my Ten-Tec Omni-VI+ ten or so years ago.
One of the club members asked - in all seriousness - if I was taking it 
to Field Day.
I think my response was something along the lines of, "You've got to be 
high!"  :-)
The response was a combination of concern that it would be difficult to 
operate, that someone might mess it up, and taking a rig of a certain 
size or value out in the elements.

Back in the late 60s, when I was a fairly new ham, I took my Drake 
"4-Line" twins to Field Day to run the 40m SSB station.
Back then, the controls on a given receiver/transmitter didn't vary much 
from manufacturer to manufacturer, and transmitters tuned up the same way.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 5/11/2012 10:13 AM, Rose wrote:
> Been there, done that, as they say ... (;-)
>
> If you still want to do it, I strongly suggest you copy all
> the radio's parameters to a laptop so you can "fix" it on
> the fly.
>
> My K3 no longer goes to FD ...
>
> 73!
>
> Ken -K0PP
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Receiver

[Phil LaMarche]

Got everything working again.  I took the K3 serial cable off the P3 and
went to the computer direct.  Held in the Power switch for 10 seconds while
applying 12 V and then I was able to down load the new S/W.  ??? why because
I updated prior to this and all worked through the P3. I'm not technical and
have to learn everything the hard way. Always grateful for any help given.
Thanks Lu.

Phil

Philip LaMarche

 
727-944-3226
727-510-5038 Cell 
 www.w9dvm.com
WWW.FLAMGROUP.COM

K3 # 1605
KPA500 # 029
P3 #1480

 CCA 98-00827
CRA 1701
W9DVM
 


-Original Message-
From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:li...@subich.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 3:57 PM
To: Phil LaMarche
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Receiver


Dick and others have pointed you to the "help file" in the K3 Utility.  See
particularly the section "Forcing the K3 into "Firmware Load Required" mode.

If you do not receive the "K3 boot loader is ready" message after pressing
"Test Communications" in the K3 Utility, follow the USB to Serial Adapter
Troubleshooting section to find out why you can not communicate with the K3.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/11/2012 3:34 PM, Phil LaMarche wrote:
> Joe, Can you help me get the radio to turn on again?
>
> Attempted to download new S/W version and the utility wouldn't connect 
> to K3. Kept rotating through the baud rates.  No way to stop it.
> Tried to turn off but only MCU LD showed in the window. Removed the 13 
> volts and then turned back on and the MCU LD is greyed in the window 
> and the TX Red Light is flashing.  Frozen.  Any help on what to do next?
>
>
>
> Phil
>
> Philip LaMarche
>
>
> 727-944-3226
> 727-510-5038 Cell
>   www.w9dvm.com
> WWW.FLAMGROUP.COM
>
> K3 # 1605
> KPA500 # 029
> P3 #1480
>
>   CCA 98-00827
> CRA 1701
> W9DVM
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[va3bxg]

Thanks for the update. This answers the question about the buddipole. And 
somewhat along the same lines.

Now with KX3 I need to figure out which loop is the best (coverage etc)

Now where is that 'easy button'

---Original Message---
From: Jim Dunstan
To: va3...@gmail.com
To: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
To: k6...@foothill.net
CC: Elecraft list
Date: May 11 16:15:27
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)


At 03:16 PM 5/11/2012 +, va3...@gmail.com wrote:
>I for one am in a quandary on what to get at dayton
>
>A buddipole, alex loop, or g4tph. Being a road warrior, need a good 
>working interior (most times hotel rooms are not accessible to the 
>outside) portable.
>
>And a partridge in a pear tree as well :-)
>Robert
>
>a 'kosher' ham
>Sent from my BlackBerry device

Without doubt the best kind of antenna given the environment you describe 
is a small tuned loop.  How well it works will depend on how well it is 
built (literally).  The quality of the loop material and the tuning 
capacitor will determine the overall efficiency (and effectiveness) of the 
antenna.  The buddipole in either the vertical or dipole arrangement will 
only come into its own when outside and away (to some degree) from 
interfering structures.  I have had success with a tuned small loop indoors 
but not so with center fed or end fed dipoles.  However they (longer 
dipoles) work well even a few feet outside the building ... eg. I used a 
bent up wire dipole made of invisible fishing wire suspended a couple of 
feed away from a balcony with thin bamboo poles ... it worked vy well on cw 
and PSK.

73 Jim, VE3CI




Robert

a 'kosher' ham 
Sent from my BlackBerry device
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[Jim Dunstan]

At 03:16 PM 5/11/2012 +, va3...@gmail.com wrote:
>I for one am in a quandary on what to get at dayton
>
>A buddipole, alex loop, or g4tph. Being a road warrior, need a good 
>working interior (most times hotel rooms are not accessible to the 
>outside) portable.
>
>And a partridge in a pear tree as well :-)
>Robert
>
>a 'kosher' ham
>Sent from my BlackBerry device

Without doubt the best kind of antenna given the environment you describe 
is a small tuned loop.  How well it works will depend on how well it is 
built (literally).  The quality of the loop material and the tuning 
capacitor will determine the overall efficiency (and effectiveness) of the 
antenna.  The buddipole in either the vertical or dipole arrangement will 
only come into its own when outside and away (to some degree) from 
interfering structures.  I have had success with a tuned small loop indoors 
but not so with center fed or end fed dipoles.  However they (longer 
dipoles) work well even a few feet outside the building ... eg. I used a 
bent up wire dipole made of invisible fishing wire suspended a couple of 
feed away from a balcony with thin bamboo poles ... it worked vy well on cw 
and PSK.

73 Jim, VE3CI



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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[dmoes]

I like it

  we used to have the same warning in the control booth at a local 
community theatre.




David Moes
VE3DVY


On Friday 11/05/2012 at 3:39 pm, Buck - k4ia  wrote:
> I've taken mine out on Field Day for the past 3 years. Not a problem.
>
> If you're really worried, use the K3 utility to back up your settings
> and you can restore pretty easily.
>
> If that doesn't work, post the following:
>
> ACHTUNG!
> Alles touristen und non-technischen look unds peepers!
>
> Das machin kontrol is nicht fur dial gespinnen, finger gepoken und
> mitten grabben.
> Uderwise ist easy schnappen der springenverk, blowen fuzen, und poppen
> corken mit spitzen sparken.
>
> Der radio machine ist fur experten operator.
> Ist nicht fur geverken by dumpkopfen.
>
> Rubber necken zighten seers keepen sur cotton picken hands in sur 
> pockets.
>
> Pencil necken geeken farbs - relaxen, und vatchen das blinken lights.
>
> Buck
> k4ia
>
>
> On 5/11/2012 3:11 PM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:
>>
>> I agree that this is risky but Id like to point out thatit will be
>> used by a core group.   who are pretty dedicated and they are all used
>> to some pretty nice rigs just none a K3It will not be the GOTA
>> station we have a ts430 for that.  I am just wanting to avoid to much
>> confusion.  If we all had a few old rigs kicking arround we would use
>> them.   having the config files to correct  someones  boo boo is a
>> great idea.  I guess I would have thought of that eventually.
>>
>>
>> David Moes
>> VE3DVY
>>
>>
>> On Friday 11/05/2012 at 1:04 pm, Anthony Scandurra K4QE  wrote:
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> This applies to ANY competition class radio, not just the K3.
>>>
>>> I strongly recommend AGAINST bringing out your radio out unless you
>>> know for
>>> a fact that those who will be using it know how to use it already.
>>>
>>> If it is a free-for-all, you should only take out a radio that is
>>> dead-simple to operate like an ICOM IC-718, a Yaesu FT-840,  or a
>>> Yaesu
>>> FT-747.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, you will be constantly be asked questions and/or really
>>> frustrating operators.  Even worse, they might get the radio into some
>>> state
>>> rendering it unusable (yes, it DOES happen) and without a quick
>>> resolution
>>> because you won't know exactly what they changed.
>>>
>>> Sorry, but it is really not worth your trouble unless you know the
>>> operators
>>> are K3-aware.
>>>
>>> 73, Tony
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: dm...@nexicom.net
>>> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:29 PM
>>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] k3 and field day
>>>
>>> I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little
>>> advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set
>>> of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will
>>> periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.
>>>
>>> Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont
>>> know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and
>>> lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being
>>> messed up.
>>>
>>> What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what
>>> precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
>>> David Moes
>>>
>>> VE3DVY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KBT2 installation question

[Don Wilhelm]

Ed,

You have to read a bit of "K2 History" to understand! :-)
There *was* a switch S1 on the Control Board, but it got bumped so many 
times, when the boards were re-done for SN 3000 and above, that pesky 
switch was changed to a 3 pin male header - P7.

This is the first time I have heard it mentioned, so maybe others just 
don't pay attention.  The KBT2 instructions have apparently not been 
updated.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/11/2012 3:59 PM, EMD wrote:
> Page 8 of the manual states, "Set the K2's internal voltmeter switch, S1 ( on
> the control board ) to the 12v position.  S1 is actually on the RF board.  I
> have looked at the parts list and schematic pages for the control board and
> have not found another S1 switch.
>
>
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[Elecraft] KBT2 installation question

[EMD]

Page 8 of the manual states, "Set the K2's internal voltmeter switch, S1 ( on
the control board ) to the 12v position.  S1 is actually on the RF board.  I
have looked at the parts list and schematic pages for the control board and
have not found another S1 switch.

Is this in reference to the main power switch of the K2 itself?  If so what
would be the 12V position.  I have looked around on the control board and
cannot find anything else that would appear to have a 12V position.

73's

Ed K3ENV



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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[Buck - k4ia]

I've taken mine out on Field Day for the past 3 years. Not a problem.

If you're really worried, use the K3 utility to back up your settings 
and you can restore pretty easily.

If that doesn't work, post the following:

ACHTUNG!
Alles touristen und non-technischen look unds peepers!

Das machin kontrol is nicht fur dial gespinnen, finger gepoken und 
mitten grabben.
Uderwise ist easy schnappen der springenverk, blowen fuzen, und poppen 
corken mit spitzen sparken.

Der radio machine ist fur experten operator.
Ist nicht fur geverken by dumpkopfen.

Rubber necken zighten seers keepen sur cotton picken hands in sur pockets.

Pencil necken geeken farbs - relaxen, und vatchen das blinken lights.

Buck
k4ia


On 5/11/2012 3:11 PM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:
> I agree that this is risky but Id like to point out thatit will be
> used by a core group.   who are pretty dedicated and they are all used
> to some pretty nice rigs just none a K3It will not be the GOTA
> station we have a ts430 for that.  I am just wanting to avoid to much
> confusion.  If we all had a few old rigs kicking arround we would use
> them.   having the config files to correct  someones  boo boo is a
> great idea.  I guess I would have thought of that eventually.
>
>
> David Moes
> VE3DVY
>
>
> On Friday 11/05/2012 at 1:04 pm, Anthony Scandurra K4QE  wrote:
>> David,
>>
>> This applies to ANY competition class radio, not just the K3.
>>
>> I strongly recommend AGAINST bringing out your radio out unless you
>> know for
>> a fact that those who will be using it know how to use it already.
>>
>> If it is a free-for-all, you should only take out a radio that is
>> dead-simple to operate like an ICOM IC-718, a Yaesu FT-840,  or a
>> Yaesu
>> FT-747.
>>
>> Otherwise, you will be constantly be asked questions and/or really
>> frustrating operators.  Even worse, they might get the radio into some
>> state
>> rendering it unusable (yes, it DOES happen) and without a quick
>> resolution
>> because you won't know exactly what they changed.
>>
>> Sorry, but it is really not worth your trouble unless you know the
>> operators
>> are K3-aware.
>>
>> 73, Tony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: dm...@nexicom.net
>> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:29 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] k3 and field day
>>
>> I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little
>> advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set
>> of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will
>> periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.
>>
>> Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont
>> know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and
>> lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being
>> messed up.
>>
>> What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what
>> precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
>> David Moes
>>
>> VE3DVY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Receiver

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

Installing the sub receiver is much easier if you remove the left
side panel (as long as you do not also have the 2M transverter).
With the left side off it is much easier to maneuver and line up
the sub RX. It certainly allows you to see all the connections,
etc.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/11/2012 3:06 PM, Dave wrote:
> One word of caution with sub receiver.
> Take your time and be careful with back of sub receiver near the IO board. 
> There are a couple of surface mounted caps on the IO board and you can damage 
> them if you are not careful.
>
> 73
> Dave
> wo2x
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 11, 2012, at 2:47 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett  wrote:
>
>> Adding the sub receiver is not that bad.  Just take your time.
>>
>> Mike W0MU
>>
>> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
>>
>>
>> On 5/11/2012 12:13 PM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:
>>> Larry,
>>>
>>> Cannot do without the sub Rx. Definitely worth it!
>>>
>>> It is quite easy to build it into the K3. See this:
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EJL8SlJ_L8
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Arie PA3A
>>>
>>> Op 11-5-2012 18:42, Larry Boekeloo schreef:
 Hello Group  I am getting ready to add some items to my K3; ATU, 
 couple of filters and the general coverage receive option.  I am looking 
 at adding the sub-receiver too.  Is that as daunting as it looks?

 Thanks.

 Larry, KN8N

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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[Jim Brown]

On 5/11/2012 10:46 AM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote:
> My experience in a hotel room is they do not work well at all. Seems
> like you are inside a cage with RFI emitters all around you. Even high
> up in the hotel.

Right. Trying to operate on the HF bands with an antenna inside of a 
metal frame building displays a complete ignorance of the Laws of 
Physics. Get the antenna outside and it's a different story. Sometimes 
that's possible, sometimes it is not.  And it's also quite possible to 
TX using indoor antennas in wood frame buildings.  The problem is going 
to be RX noise -- you're going to be lucky to hear anything but the 
loudest signals on the band.

On the other hand, you can have some fun on VHF and UHF with a talkie in 
a window on a high floor -- you can work pretty well for roughly 150 
degrees of azimuth that the window provides, but the building will 
shield you from signals arriving from other directions.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[dmoes]

I agree that this is risky but Id like to point out thatit will be 
used by a core group.   who are pretty dedicated and they are all used 
to some pretty nice rigs just none a K3It will not be the GOTA 
station we have a ts430 for that.  I am just wanting to avoid to much 
confusion.  If we all had a few old rigs kicking arround we would use 
them.   having the config files to correct  someones  boo boo is a 
great idea.  I guess I would have thought of that eventually.


David Moes
VE3DVY


On Friday 11/05/2012 at 1:04 pm, Anthony Scandurra K4QE  wrote:
> David,
>
> This applies to ANY competition class radio, not just the K3.
>
> I strongly recommend AGAINST bringing out your radio out unless you 
> know for
> a fact that those who will be using it know how to use it already.
>
> If it is a free-for-all, you should only take out a radio that is
> dead-simple to operate like an ICOM IC-718, a Yaesu FT-840,  or a 
> Yaesu
> FT-747.
>
> Otherwise, you will be constantly be asked questions and/or really
> frustrating operators.  Even worse, they might get the radio into some 
> state
> rendering it unusable (yes, it DOES happen) and without a quick 
> resolution
> because you won't know exactly what they changed.
>
> Sorry, but it is really not worth your trouble unless you know the 
> operators
> are K3-aware.
>
> 73, Tony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dm...@nexicom.net
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:29 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] k3 and field day
>
> I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little
> advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set
> of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will
> periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.
>
> Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont
> know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and
> lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being
> messed up.
>
> What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what
> precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.
>
>
>
> Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
> David Moes
>
> VE3DVY
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Receiver

[Dave]

One word of caution with sub receiver. 
Take your time and be careful with back of sub receiver near the IO board. 
There are a couple of surface mounted caps on the IO board and you can damage 
them if you are not careful. 

73
Dave
wo2x


Sent from my iPhone

On May 11, 2012, at 2:47 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett  wrote:

> Adding the sub receiver is not that bad.  Just take your time.
> 
> Mike W0MU
> 
> W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net
> 
> 
> On 5/11/2012 12:13 PM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:
>> Larry,
>> 
>> Cannot do without the sub Rx. Definitely worth it!
>> 
>> It is quite easy to build it into the K3. See this:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EJL8SlJ_L8
>> 
>> 73,
>> Arie PA3A
>> 
>> Op 11-5-2012 18:42, Larry Boekeloo schreef:
>>> Hello Group  I am getting ready to add some items to my K3; ATU, couple 
>>> of filters and the general coverage receive option.  I am looking at adding 
>>> the sub-receiver too.  Is that as daunting as it looks?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Larry, KN8N
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list [Thread closed - Really!]

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Guys - this thread has been close twice. No more posts on beeps, please.

In general, when a thread has been closed, do not make any more last 
comments.

73,

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On 5/11/2012 9:10 AM, Vic K2VCO wrote:
> In all seriousness, there are many microphones intended for the CB market 
> that can produce
> a beep when you release the ptt. Just google "CB microphone beep". As a cw 
> operator, I
> don't see anything wrong with SSB guys transmitting a beep once in awhile!
>
> On 5/11/2012 8:44 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
>> Dave, This round-table that I was asked to place a beep consisted of three 
>> Flex users
>> and myself.
>>
>> We have had our answer from Eric about this.
>>
>> The beep would have been optional.  I'm sorry folks were negative about 
>> this, but I can
>> see their point. I personally don't think the beep would have been more than 
>> a
>> fly-speck in the pepper considering the language I hear and, yes, music to 
>> drown out
>> nets, and the tuner-uppers on qso's.  Then, there are the guys that are 
>> splattering
>> several K wide.  The list goes on.
>>
>> I'll just go and have my own little 'pity-party'. Rich, NØCE
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[bill ny9h]

about 4 years ago i successfully used a telescoping crappie fishing 
pole or a folding shock-rope tent pole I forget which   on a cruise 
ship balcony with my k2.  we were up maybe 80-100 feet above the water..

The #22 line went out to the end of the pole (12-??ft)  then dropped 
down another maybe 25 feetwith a gnd to the railing.., worked the 
EU  from the Carib just fine

I tried to be stealthy about it  about the third day  the folks 
in the adjacent  room were on their balcony and saw me 
and she started hollering at me to get my attention
SHE WANTED TO LET ME KNOW THE BAIT FELL OFF...really

bill ny9h/3

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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Receiver

[W0MU Mike Fatchett]

Adding the sub receiver is not that bad.  Just take your time.

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net


On 5/11/2012 12:13 PM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:
> Larry,
>
> Cannot do without the sub Rx. Definitely worth it!
>
> It is quite easy to build it into the K3. See this:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EJL8SlJ_L8
>
> 73,
> Arie PA3A
>
> Op 11-5-2012 18:42, Larry Boekeloo schreef:
>> Hello Group  I am getting ready to add some items to my K3; ATU, couple 
>> of filters and the general coverage receive option.  I am looking at adding 
>> the sub-receiver too.  Is that as daunting as it looks?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Larry, KN8N
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Receiver

[Arie Kleingeld PA3A]

Larry,

Cannot do without the sub Rx. Definitely worth it!

It is quite easy to build it into the K3. See this: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EJL8SlJ_L8

73,
Arie PA3A

Op 11-5-2012 18:42, Larry Boekeloo schreef:
> Hello Group  I am getting ready to add some items to my K3; ATU, couple 
> of filters and the general coverage receive option.  I am looking at adding 
> the sub-receiver too.  Is that as daunting as it looks?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Larry, KN8N
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

[K2GN]

I got enough beeps/pops/and other noise generated by Smart
phone/computer/email/house alarms/etc..
Don't need any more.
Leave the R Beeps to the repeater guys!
Larry/K2GN - http://k2gn.com


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 1:40 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list


On 5/11/2012 1:02 PM, Mike Schwendeman wrote:
> The problem is this: The K3 is TOO GOOD! One cannot tell is the radio 
> has stopped transmitting! A little low-amplitude click or beep is a 
> valid thought.

No, the K3 is designed the way all transceivers should be.  There is no low
level hum, carrier leakage, or fan noise that lets others know the 
PTT switch is being 'mashed".   In addition, there are no relays with
high voltage or high current to spark or spike an couple into transmit audio
when the PTT is releases or poorly designed ALC loops to pump up the gain as
the transmitter begins to transition back to receive.  This is good and
results in more natural voice operation; the next step is greater use of
VOX!

Wayne has already said there ain't gonna be no stinking roger beeps so
that's not the issue here.  The issue is the presence of *any* added garbage
in amateur radio.  All manufacturers should be striving to produce audio as
clean and artifact free as that from the K3 without spoiling it with add-ons
that have the potential to increase QRM and noise to adjacent channel users
(which is exactly what roger beeps do).

73,

... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[Tom Azlin N4ZPT]

My experience in a hotel room is they do not work well at all. Seems 
like you are inside a cage with RFI emitters all around you. Even high 
up in the hotel. Have had better luck outside on the grass with a dipole 
or wire just hung up arm's length in the trees.

Get some wire outside and away from the building!  or go outside. I have 
not had any luck getting hotel rooms with real balcony options.

73, tom n4zpt

On 5/11/2012 12:09 PM, Mike WA8BXN wrote:
>
>
> I too would like to hear the answers to this question! But I have an added
> question and thought. What are reasonable expectations to being able to work
> much with an in the motel room antenna? I would expect a lot of noise, a lot
> of shielding and need to use 40 or 80a meters at night which is rougher to
> do with short antennas. My approach would be Internet access to a rig at
> home.
>
> The thought is that one could test out indoor antennas in their own shack to
> see how various things work. Second thought, particularly with respect to
> small loops, I wonder if they would be useful to home use (primarily as a
> receive antenna assuming the presence of better outside antennas for
> transmitting) being easy to rotate by hand to try to null noise or QRM.
>
> 73 - Mike WA8BXN
>
> ---Original Message---
>
> From: va3...@gmail.com
> Date: 5/11/2012 11:27:40 AM
> To: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net; k6...@foothill.net
> Cc: Elecraft list
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)
>
> I for one am in a quandary on what to get at Dayton
>
> A buddipole, Alex loop, or g4tph. Being a road warrior, need a good working
> interior (most times hotel rooms are not accessible to the outside) portable
>
>
> And a partridge in a pear tree as well :-)
> Robert
>
> A 'kosher' ham
> Sent from my BlackBerry device
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Prior
> Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 08:55:54
> To: k6...@foothill.net
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)
>
> Hi Fred
>
> I have been very tempted by the Alex-loop, but in the meantime have just
> Bought one of G4TPH's loops which I shall put through its paces when the
> Weather improves! I should imagine that the insensitivity to electric
> Fields in the near field would be an advantage in electrically noisy
> Environments. Even a campsite can be very noisy with the inverters from RVs
> And the like spewing out rf everywhere.
>
> I'm spoilt for choice of antennas to play with once the KX3 arrives!
>
> 73 Stephen G4SJP
>
> On Wednesday, 9 May 2012, Fred Jensen wrote:
>
>> I haven't been following this thread closely but has anyone mentioned a
>> small magnetic loop like the Alex-Loop? I've got a good SOTA friend who
>> uses one and loves it.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred K6DGW
>> - Northern California Contest Club
>> - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
>> - www.cqp.org
>>
>> On 5/9/2012 2:47 AM, David Cutter wrote:
>>> What I particularly like about the near end fed is that you are more in
>>> control of the local stray capacitances and such like and you only need
>>> one slender wire in the sky. I wrote a power point on the subject which
>>> needs a bit of massage but I can send it to you for interest.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[Tom Azlin N4ZPT]

The K3 configuration utility is handy that way!  ( same with the KX3 
configuration utility).

73, tom n4zpt

On 5/11/2012 1:13 PM, Rose wrote:
> Been there, done that, as they say ... (;-)
>
> If you still want to do it, I strongly suggest you copy all
> the radio's parameters to a laptop so you can "fix" it on
> the fly.
>
> My K3 no longer goes to FD ...
>
> 73!
>
> Ken -K0PP
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Anthony Scandurra K4QEwrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> This applies to ANY competition class radio, not just the K3.
>>
>> I strongly recommend AGAINST bringing out your radio out unless you know
>> for
>> a fact that those who will be using it know how to use it already.
>>
>> If it is a free-for-all, you should only take out a radio that is
>> dead-simple to operate like an ICOM IC-718, a Yaesu FT-840,  or a Yaesu
>> FT-747.
>>
>> Otherwise, you will be constantly be asked questions and/or really
>> frustrating operators.  Even worse, they might get the radio into some
>> state
>> rendering it unusable (yes, it DOES happen) and without a quick resolution
>> because you won't know exactly what they changed.
>>
>> Sorry, but it is really not worth your trouble unless you know the
>> operators
>> are K3-aware.
>>
>> 73, Tony
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: dm...@nexicom.net
>> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:29 PM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] k3 and field day
>>
>> I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little
>> advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set
>> of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will
>> periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.
>>
>> Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont
>> know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and
>> lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being
>> messed up.
>>
>> What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what
>> precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.
>>
>>
>>
>> Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
>> David Moes
>>
>> VE3DVY
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[Tom Azlin N4ZPT]

Hi David,

We ( Vienna Wireless Society) have had multiple Elecraft K3s our for our 
field day. Did not seem any more difficult that other radios we have had 
out. I think there is a locked setting to limit amount of messing up the 
settings. We usually had someone around that knew how to reset the 
radios. But we had that sort of issue with a TenTec Orion and a 
FT-1000MP previous years. So no worse experience with K3s than any other 
radio brought out with those that did not own one.

We used mono-band antennas for 40m CW and SSB stations and multi band 
antennas for our other two stations.  Had two sets of band pass filters 
but discovered the K3s were just fine without.

We have also had a 3 band Spiderbeam up on a 15 meter mast for the 
non-40 SSB station which got us a nice signal to the West.

we do not like multiband antennas in general. lately we have been using 
two element wire yagis pointed towards the West coast ( we are in Virginia).

73, tom n4zpt

On 5/11/2012 12:29 PM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote:
> I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little
> advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set
> of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will
> periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.
>
> Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont
> know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and
> lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being
> messed up.
>
> What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what
> precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.
>
>
>
> Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
> David Moes
>
> VE3DVY
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

On 5/11/2012 1:02 PM, Mike Schwendeman wrote:
> The problem is this: The K3 is TOO GOOD! One cannot tell is the radio
> has stopped transmitting! A little low-amplitude click or beep is a
> valid thought.

No, the K3 is designed the way all transceivers should be.  There is no
low level hum, carrier leakage, or fan noise that lets others know the 
PTT switch is being 'mashed".   In addition, there are no relays with
high voltage or high current to spark or spike an couple into transmit
audio when the PTT is releases or poorly designed ALC loops to pump up
the gain as the transmitter begins to transition back to receive.  This
is good and results in more natural voice operation; the next step is
greater use of VOX!

Wayne has already said there ain't gonna be no stinking roger beeps so
that's not the issue here.  The issue is the presence of *any* added
garbage in amateur radio.  All manufacturers should be striving to
produce audio as clean and artifact free as that from the K3 without
spoiling it with add-ons that have the potential to increase QRM and
noise to adjacent channel users (which is exactly what roger beeps
do).

73,

... Joe, W4TV


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Re: [Elecraft] Sub-Receiver

[Jim Brown]

On 5/11/2012 9:42 AM, Larry Boekeloo wrote:
> I am looking at adding the sub-receiver too.  Is that as daunting as it looks?

It's a bit of a shoe-horn job to cram the sub-RX into the chassis once 
you've got it built, but otherwise no big deal. It's not bad enough to 
avoid doing, but enough of a PITA that you'd like to avoid taking it out 
and putting it back in. :)  For that reason, I STRONGLY suggest that you 
buy and install whatever options (including filters) that you think 
you're going to want at the same time you're adding the sub-RX.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[Rose]

Been there, done that, as they say ... (;-)

If you still want to do it, I strongly suggest you copy all
the radio's parameters to a laptop so you can "fix" it on
the fly.

My K3 no longer goes to FD ...

73!

Ken -K0PP

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Anthony Scandurra K4QE wrote:

> David,
>
> This applies to ANY competition class radio, not just the K3.
>
> I strongly recommend AGAINST bringing out your radio out unless you know
> for
> a fact that those who will be using it know how to use it already.
>
> If it is a free-for-all, you should only take out a radio that is
> dead-simple to operate like an ICOM IC-718, a Yaesu FT-840,  or a Yaesu
> FT-747.
>
> Otherwise, you will be constantly be asked questions and/or really
> frustrating operators.  Even worse, they might get the radio into some
> state
> rendering it unusable (yes, it DOES happen) and without a quick resolution
> because you won't know exactly what they changed.
>
> Sorry, but it is really not worth your trouble unless you know the
> operators
> are K3-aware.
>
> 73, Tony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dm...@nexicom.net
> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:29 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] k3 and field day
>
> I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little
> advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set
> of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will
> periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.
>
> Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont
> know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and
> lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being
> messed up.
>
> What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what
> precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.
>
>
>
> Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
> David Moes
>
> VE3DVY
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

[Anthony Scandurra K4QE]

David,

This applies to ANY competition class radio, not just the K3.

I strongly recommend AGAINST bringing out your radio out unless you know for 
a fact that those who will be using it know how to use it already.

If it is a free-for-all, you should only take out a radio that is 
dead-simple to operate like an ICOM IC-718, a Yaesu FT-840,  or a Yaesu 
FT-747.

Otherwise, you will be constantly be asked questions and/or really 
frustrating operators.  Even worse, they might get the radio into some state 
rendering it unusable (yes, it DOES happen) and without a quick resolution 
because you won't know exactly what they changed.

Sorry, but it is really not worth your trouble unless you know the operators 
are K3-aware.

73, Tony

-Original Message- 
From: dm...@nexicom.net
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:29 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] k3 and field day

I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little
advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set
of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will
periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.

Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont
know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and
lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being
messed up.

What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what
precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.



Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
David Moes

VE3DVY






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Re: [Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

[Mike Schwendeman]

Howdy, folks;

 I really do think some of the thought processes have gone to the 
extreme.  I happen to know the fellow who had presented the original 
point or desire for a "courtesy beep" function.  Dick (Richard) is very 
well qualified, is an extremely good example of all phases of 
communications, courtesy, etc., etc.

 There are some responses that make Dick look like he just got his 
brand new "ham ticket" but still yearns for the good old days, when his 
radio would send a series of three to five beeps or whoops.  No, Dick is 
about as far from the CB lingo and operation as one can imagine.  This 
is nit to say that "this sort of communication" is wrong or bad, but 
most might agree that might not like to endure a whoop at the end of 
every radio transmission.

 Dick had mentioned that he uses a headset.  His PTT function is 
quite to the point that is is virtually non-existent.  Now, if he or 
others have a relaxed, slow speech "gait" (for the lack of a better 
word) the words that stop being voiced may be a simple PAUSE as a 
further thought is being considered, or it might simply be the end of 
what he had to say at that moment.  -Now all of you know this, but I 
just wanted to be clear as to how this might almost "invite" another 
person to jump in with a "seemingly fit" reply. -Which might actually 
occurring at the same time that the other party resumes his statements.  
(DOUBLING, in other words...)

  I also do NOT want or like the thought of a chat that involves a 
harsh set of beeps!  I do not like the thought of even ONE offensive beep.

 To be effective, a "noise" that lets others know that a PTT button 
has been released should (stressing SHOULD, here) be subtle.  If a 
"courtesy beep" is made up of only a few cycles of an audio tone, it 
largely becomes a CLICK.  THIS would be good, in my opinion.  The 
"click" should also be LOW IN AMPLITUDE.  -This would also be good.

 The problem is this:  The K3 is TOO GOOD!  One cannot tell is the 
radio has stopped transmitting!  A little low-amplitude click or beep is 
a valid thought.  One could make the end-of-transmission "announcement" 
as long and as loud as desired or might be deemed needed.  Or, it can be 
TURNED OFF, just like the two-tone generator that Dick had mentioned.  
(We'd still have control over the "Roger Beep..!)  (I'd hope...)

 Sincere 73 to all who might consider;   -Mike-   KØJTA

On 5/10/12 4:21 PM, Adrian wrote:
>
> Yes Gary, Elecraft made the K3 "CB Proof", lets keep it that way, no 
> roger
> beeps thanks...
>
> Adrian ... vk4tux
>> - Original Message - From: "Gary Gregory" 
>> To: "Richard Fjeld" 
>> Cc: "elecraft posting" 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2012 8:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list
>>
>>
>> *Oh no please, no more Roger Beeps...my hearing get's rattled with the
>> sharp tone generated by some of these Rogef Beeps heard on 20M lately.
>>
>> There is enough beeps, squeeks, rattles from clunky microphones, over
>> driven compression, key clicks and the list goes on. Lets not add more
>> noises to the bands.
>>
>> Placing a sign on the radio with "OVER" in bold type could serve as a
>> reminder for those of us who forget at times to end an over in an
>> appropriate way and that creates no additional noise.
>>
>> Using headphones here all the time I have noticed when working weak 
>> signals
>> that when a Roger Beep is used it produces a sharp spike in the audio 
>> which
>> is distracting and in my case very annoying.
>>
>> I would strongly voice my opposition to such an addition if it were 
>> to be
>> considered.
>>
>> YMMV
>>
>> Gary
>> *
>> On 11 May 2012 06:02, Richard Fjeld  wrote:
>>
>>> You have some excellent menu options in the K3, even a built-in 2-tone
>>> generator for checking SSB.  There is the SW Tone option to aid 
>>> visually
>>> impaired people, and others, know when something is turned on, or 
>>> off, by
>>> it's tones.  Also, I understand there is Elecraft software that 
>>> speaks from
>>> a computer as controls are used. I think your f/w and s/w are 
>>> excellent.
>>>
>>> Some of the hams I round-table with are up in the years, and 
>>> struggle to
>>> hear.  I use a headset mike which makes no mechanical sound when I 
>>> release
>>> the remote PTT.  They can't tell when I release it unless I say 
>>> 'over'. I
>>> optioned CW+SSB, but I often forget to tap the paddle when I'm done 
>>> talking.
>>>
>>> Knowing I run a K3, I have been asked if it could be optioned to 
>>> beep when
>>> the PTT is released.
>>>
>>> For your consideration, and thanks.
>>>
>>> Richard Fjeld, NØCE
>>> rpfj...@embarqmail.com
>>> I'd rather be learning.
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[Jim Brown]

On 5/11/2012 8:16 AM, va3...@gmail.com wrote:
> I for one am in a quandary on what to get at dayton
>
> A buddipole, alex loop, or g4tph.

The LAST thing I would go for is any form of loaded antenna, because 
they tend to have poor efficiency, limited bandwidth, and are 
expensive.  Small loops (small as a fraction of a wavelength) also have 
generally poor efficiency.

What I would look for instead are various means of supporting a long 
wire in a variety of situations. For example, there's a very nice, 
non-conductive telescoping pole made by a German ham (DK?SQ) that 
collapses to 1 meter and expands to 10m. I've seen various mounting 
accessories and clamps to facilitate holding it either vertical or away 
from a building on a railing. Tape a wire to that pole, lay out another 
wire to act as a counterpoise,and you've got a very efficient TX 
antenna!  Wire as small as #22 makes an antenna that is much more 
efficient than an inductively loaded antenna and also more broadband.

I used exactly this antenna at the annual QRP night of our local club 
when I lived in Chicago.  I set up my K2 with a battery on a picnic 
table, taped a length of #22 to that pole, wedged the pole between the 
tabletop and the seat so that it was about half-way vertical, and laid a 
couple of wires out on the ground to act as a counterpoise.  In a little 
over an hour, running 5W, I had a half dozen QSOs on 30M and busted a 
pileup into the Caribbean.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 HELP

[Dick Dievendorff]

See K3 Utility Help, Troubleshooting, MCU Load failure

73 de Dick, K6KR


Sent from my iPad

On May 11, 2012, at 8:40 AM, "Phil LaMarche"  wrote:

> Attempted to download new version and the utility wouldn't connect to K3.
> Tried to turn off but only MCU LD showed in the window. Removed the 13 volts
> and then turned back on and the MCU LD is greyed in the window and the TX
> Red Light is flashing.  Frozen.  Any help on what to do next?
> 
> 
> 
> Phil
> 
> 
> 
> Philip LaMarche
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[va3bxg]

While agree with you about outdoor, the problem is that, at times one does not 
have choice. Either indoor or nothing.

I wish I, and am sure others feel this way, had the access to something 
outdoor, but many times that is not an option.


So if one does not have the opinion, what should one do?
Robert

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Sent from my BlackBerry device

-Original Message-
From: David Cutter 
Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
Date: Fri, 11 May 2012 17:24:48 
To: 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

I think you've hit the nail on the head: couple your K series to the 
internet using a decent outdoor aerial at home.  Spend your money for 
effective communication and avoid all those nasty emc troubles in hotel 
rooms, unless you can poke a wire out of the window.  BTW, you probably 
need permission from the hotel owner to do this.

Loops are good for receiving using an external amplifier if you need 
to.  You can get very good nulling of nearby noise sources.  You only 
need simple wire loops, no fancy hardware.

David
G3UNA

On 11/05/2012 16:09, Mike WA8BXN wrote:
>
> I too would like to hear the answers to this question! But I have an added
> question and thought. What are reasonable expectations to being able to work
> much with an in the motel room antenna? I would expect a lot of noise, a lot
> of shielding and need to use 40 or 80a meters at night which is rougher to
> do with short antennas. My approach would be Internet access to a rig at
> home.
>
> The thought is that one could test out indoor antennas in their own shack to
> see how various things work. Second thought, particularly with respect to
> small loops, I wonder if they would be useful to home use (primarily as a
> receive antenna assuming the presence of better outside antennas for
> transmitting) being easy to rotate by hand to try to null noise or QRM.
>
> 73 - Mike WA8BXN
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[Elecraft] Sub-Receiver

[Larry Boekeloo]

Hello Group  I am getting ready to add some items to my K3; ATU, couple of 
filters and the general coverage receive option.  I am looking at adding the 
sub-receiver too.  Is that as daunting as it looks?

Thanks.

Larry, KN8N

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 HELP

[Bill K9YEQ]

See page 66 of the owner's manual.  Hopefully you have saved your settings.
The manual cautions against shutting off by removing power as you go through
the process.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Phil LaMarche
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 10:40 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 HELP

Attempted to download new version and the utility wouldn't connect to K3.
Tried to turn off but only MCU LD showed in the window. Removed the 13 volts
and then turned back on and the MCU LD is greyed in the window and the TX
Red Light is flashing.  Frozen.  Any help on what to do next?

 

Phil

 

Philip LaMarche

 

 

727-944-3226

727-510-5038 Cell 

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P3 #1480

 

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[Elecraft] k3 and field day

[dmoes]

I will have my k3 at Field Day this year and would like a little 
advice.I will have the Yamaha cm500,  a hand held mic plus a set 
of paddles.   It will have one multiband antenna.   plus a will 
periodically be connected  to a beam when its available.

Since it will also be used by several other ops that probably wont 
know the K3 I would like to set it up as user friendly as possible and 
lock out as much as possible in the menus to prevent it from being 
messed up.

What  settings have others used in this situation.   and what 
precautions are there?   and any other thoughts please.



Please answer to the reflector  and not directly to me.
David Moes

VE3DVY






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Re: [Elecraft] Non-portable Antenna (roof)

[Mike Markowski]

He uses an alligator clip to the metal handle that opens window, and said he
almost fell over when someone answered his first CQ.  :-)

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 05/11/2012 12:58 PM, David Cutter wrote:
> That sounds really cool.  How does he make connection?
> 
> David
> G3UNA
> 
> On 11/05/2012 15:47, Mike Markowski wrote:
>> Not a portable solution but an interesting story is that a friend here at
>> Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD had the same concerns and by chance was assigned 
>> a
>> top floor room in barracks.  It turns out his window frame is connected to a
>> metal shroud wrapping around the bldg, and the shroud is connected to metal
>> roof.  His 1-band 40m qrp rig tunes up and he's making qsos on it at 5W!
>>
>> 73,
>> Mike ab3ap
>>
>> On 05/11/2012 11:16 AM, va3...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I for one am in a quandary on what to get at dayton
>>>
>>> A buddipole, alex loop, or g4tph. Being a road warrior, need a good working
>>> interior (most times hotel rooms are not accessible to the outside)
>>> portable.
>>>
>>> And a partridge in a pear tree as well :-) Robert
>>>
>>> a 'kosher' ham Sent from my BlackBerry device
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[David Cutter]

I think you've hit the nail on the head: couple your K series to the 
internet using a decent outdoor aerial at home.  Spend your money for 
effective communication and avoid all those nasty emc troubles in hotel 
rooms, unless you can poke a wire out of the window.  BTW, you probably 
need permission from the hotel owner to do this.

Loops are good for receiving using an external amplifier if you need 
to.  You can get very good nulling of nearby noise sources.  You only 
need simple wire loops, no fancy hardware.

David
G3UNA

On 11/05/2012 16:09, Mike WA8BXN wrote:
>
> I too would like to hear the answers to this question! But I have an added
> question and thought. What are reasonable expectations to being able to work
> much with an in the motel room antenna? I would expect a lot of noise, a lot
> of shielding and need to use 40 or 80a meters at night which is rougher to
> do with short antennas. My approach would be Internet access to a rig at
> home.
>
> The thought is that one could test out indoor antennas in their own shack to
> see how various things work. Second thought, particularly with respect to
> small loops, I wonder if they would be useful to home use (primarily as a
> receive antenna assuming the presence of better outside antennas for
> transmitting) being easy to rotate by hand to try to null noise or QRM.
>
> 73 - Mike WA8BXN
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[Vic K2VCO]

Every time I've tried this, results have been poor. There is so much electrical 
wiring, 
fluorescent lights and and other devices nearby that noise is awful. Bigger 
hotels are 
often built with reinforced concrete, etc. A balcony or openable window is the 
best choice.

On 5/11/2012 9:09 AM, Mike WA8BXN wrote:
>
>
> I too would like to hear the answers to this question! But I have an added
> question and thought. What are reasonable expectations to being able to work
> much with an in the motel room antenna? I would expect a lot of noise, a lot
> of shielding and need to use 40 or 80a meters at night which is rougher to
> do with short antennas. My approach would be Internet access to a rig at
> home.
>
> The thought is that one could test out indoor antennas in their own shack to
> see how various things work. Second thought, particularly with respect to
> small loops, I wonder if they would be useful to home use (primarily as a
> receive antenna assuming the presence of better outside antennas for
> transmitting) being easy to rotate by hand to try to null noise or QRM.
>
> 73 - Mike WA8BXN


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Re: [Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

[Vic K2VCO]

In all seriousness, there are many microphones intended for the CB market that 
can produce 
a beep when you release the ptt. Just google "CB microphone beep". As a cw 
operator, I 
don't see anything wrong with SSB guys transmitting a beep once in awhile!

On 5/11/2012 8:44 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:
> Dave, This round-table that I was asked to place a beep consisted of three 
> Flex users
> and myself.
>
> We have had our answer from Eric about this.
>
> The beep would have been optional.  I'm sorry folks were negative about this, 
> but I can
> see their point. I personally don't think the beep would have been more than a
> fly-speck in the pepper considering the language I hear and, yes, music to 
> drown out
> nets, and the tuner-uppers on qso's.  Then, there are the guys that are 
> splattering
> several K wide.  The list goes on.
>
> I'll just go and have my own little 'pity-party'. Rich, NØCE

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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[Mike WA8BXN]

 
I too would like to hear the answers to this question! But I have an added
question and thought. What are reasonable expectations to being able to work
much with an in the motel room antenna? I would expect a lot of noise, a lot
of shielding and need to use 40 or 80a meters at night which is rougher to
do with short antennas. My approach would be Internet access to a rig at
home. 
 
The thought is that one could test out indoor antennas in their own shack to
see how various things work. Second thought, particularly with respect to
small loops, I wonder if they would be useful to home use (primarily as a
receive antenna assuming the presence of better outside antennas for
transmitting) being easy to rotate by hand to try to null noise or QRM. 
 
73 - Mike WA8BXN 
 
---Original Message--- 
 
From: va3...@gmail.com 
Date: 5/11/2012 11:27:40 AM 
To: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net; k6...@foothill.net 
Cc: Elecraft list 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed) 
 
I for one am in a quandary on what to get at Dayton 
 
A buddipole, Alex loop, or g4tph. Being a road warrior, need a good working
interior (most times hotel rooms are not accessible to the outside) portable
 
 
And a partridge in a pear tree as well :-) 
Robert 
 
A 'kosher' ham 
Sent from my BlackBerry device 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Stephen Prior  
Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 08:55:54 
To: k6...@foothill.net 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed) 
 
Hi Fred 
 
I have been very tempted by the Alex-loop, but in the meantime have just 
Bought one of G4TPH's loops which I shall put through its paces when the 
Weather improves! I should imagine that the insensitivity to electric 
Fields in the near field would be an advantage in electrically noisy 
Environments. Even a campsite can be very noisy with the inverters from RVs 
And the like spewing out rf everywhere. 
 
I'm spoilt for choice of antennas to play with once the KX3 arrives! 
 
73 Stephen G4SJP 
 
On Wednesday, 9 May 2012, Fred Jensen wrote: 
 
> I haven't been following this thread closely but has anyone mentioned a 
> small magnetic loop like the Alex-Loop? I've got a good SOTA friend who 
> uses one and loves it. 
> 
> 73, 
> 
> Fred K6DGW 
> - Northern California Contest Club 
> - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 
> - www.cqp.org 
> 
> On 5/9/2012 2:47 AM, David Cutter wrote: 
> > What I particularly like about the near end fed is that you are more in 
> > control of the local stray capacitances and such like and you only need 
> > one slender wire in the sky. I wrote a power point on the subject which 
> > needs a bit of massage but I can send it to you for interest. 
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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[David Cutter]

I wouldn't buy a loop.  IF you only have those 3 choices, I would go for 
the Buddipole, but I'm sure there must be other choices out there, I 
don't like spending a lot of money on antennas unless it offers 
something really special.  Have you seen the Bravo?

See   http://n6bt.com/n6bt-Bravo-dayton-faq-1.htm

Not sure if it would fit inside your hotel bedroom.

David
G3UNA



On 11/05/2012 15:16, va3...@gmail.com wrote:
> I for one am in a quandary on what to get at dayton
>
> A buddipole, alex loop, or g4tph. Being a road warrior, need a good working 
> interior (most times hotel rooms are not accessible to the outside) portable.
>
> And a partridge in a pear tree as well :-)
> Robert
>
> a 'kosher' ham
> Sent from my BlackBerry device
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Re: [Elecraft] Non-portable Antenna (roof)

[David Cutter]

That sounds really cool.  How does he make connection?

David
G3UNA

On 11/05/2012 15:47, Mike Markowski wrote:
> Not a portable solution but an interesting story is that a friend here at
> Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD had the same concerns and by chance was assigned a
> top floor room in barracks.  It turns out his window frame is connected to a
> metal shroud wrapping around the bldg, and the shroud is connected to metal
> roof.  His 1-band 40m qrp rig tunes up and he's making qsos on it at 5W!
>
> 73,
> Mike ab3ap
>
> On 05/11/2012 11:16 AM, va3...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I for one am in a quandary on what to get at dayton
>>
>> A buddipole, alex loop, or g4tph. Being a road warrior, need a good working
>> interior (most times hotel rooms are not accessible to the outside)
>> portable.
>>
>> And a partridge in a pear tree as well :-) Robert
>>
>> a 'kosher' ham Sent from my BlackBerry device
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 HELP

[Ken K3IU]

Check the Troubleshooting Section of the K3 Utility Help file.
73, Ken K3IU

On 5/11/2012 11:40 AM, Phil LaMarche wrote:
> Attempted to download new version and the utility wouldn't connect to K3.
> Tried to turn off but only MCU LD showed in the window. Removed the 13 volts
> and then turned back on and the MCU LD is greyed in the window and the TX
> Red Light is flashing.  Frozen.  Any help on what to do next?
>
>
>
> Phil
>
>
>
> Philip LaMarche
>
>
>
>
>
> 727-944-3226
>
> 727-510-5038 Cell
>
>  www.w9dvm.com
>
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>
>
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>
> KPA500 # 029
>
> P3 #1480
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Re: [Elecraft] Non-portable Antenna (roof)

[Mike Markowski]

Not a portable solution but an interesting story is that a friend here at
Aberdeen Proving Ground, MD had the same concerns and by chance was assigned a
top floor room in barracks.  It turns out his window frame is connected to a
metal shroud wrapping around the bldg, and the shroud is connected to metal
roof.  His 1-band 40m qrp rig tunes up and he's making qsos on it at 5W!

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 05/11/2012 11:16 AM, va3...@gmail.com wrote:
> I for one am in a quandary on what to get at dayton
> 
> A buddipole, alex loop, or g4tph. Being a road warrior, need a good working
> interior (most times hotel rooms are not accessible to the outside)
> portable.
> 
> And a partridge in a pear tree as well :-) Robert
> 
> a 'kosher' ham Sent from my BlackBerry device
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 HELP

[Monty Shultes]

Phil,

Have you had a local lightning store recently?

Monty K2DLJ

On May 11, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Phil LaMarche wrote:

> Attempted to download new version and the utility wouldn't connect to K3.
> Tried to turn off but only MCU LD showed in the window. Removed the 13 volts
> and then turned back on and the MCU LD is greyed in the window and the TX
> Red Light is flashing.  Frozen.  Any help on what to do next?
> 
> 
> 
> Phil
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> 
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> Philip LaMarche
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> 727-944-3226
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>   www.w9dvm.com
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>  WWW.FLAMGROUP.COM
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> K3 # 1605
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> KPA500 # 029
> 
> P3 #1480
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> CCA 98-00827
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> CRA 1701
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> W9DVM
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[Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

[Richard Fjeld]

Dave,
This round-table that I was asked to place a beep consisted of three Flex users 
and myself.

We have had our answer from Eric about this.

The beep would have been optional.  I'm sorry folks were negative about this, 
but I can see their point. I personally don't think the beep would have been 
more than a fly-speck in the pepper considering the language I hear and, yes, 
music to drown out nets, and the tuner-uppers on qso's.  Then, there are the 
guys that are splattering several K wide.  The list goes on.

I'll just go and have my own little 'pity-party'.
Rich, NØCE


..
You mean your K3 is the only rig in your round table without an 
irritating "roger-beep"?

Dave   AB7E




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I'd rather be learning.


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[Elecraft] K3 HELP

[Phil LaMarche]

Attempted to download new version and the utility wouldn't connect to K3.
Tried to turn off but only MCU LD showed in the window. Removed the 13 volts
and then turned back on and the MCU LD is greyed in the window and the TX
Red Light is flashing.  Frozen.  Any help on what to do next?

 

Phil

 

Philip LaMarche

 

 

727-944-3226

727-510-5038 Cell 

   www.w9dvm.com

  WWW.FLAMGROUP.COM

 

K3 # 1605

KPA500 # 029

P3 #1480

 

 CCA 98-00827

CRA 1701

W9DVM

 

 

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[Elecraft] KX3 overall height

[John Lally]

What is the overall height of the KX3, including tuning knob?  I am planning
to get a case for the KX3.

 

Thanks

 

John Lally

W7JJL

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Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

[va3bxg]

I for one am in a quandary on what to get at dayton

A buddipole, alex loop, or g4tph. Being a road warrior, need a good working 
interior (most times hotel rooms are not accessible to the outside) portable.

And a partridge in a pear tree as well :-)
Robert

a 'kosher' ham 
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From: Stephen Prior 
Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 08:55:54 
To: k6...@foothill.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Portable Antennas (near end fed)

Hi Fred

I have been very tempted by the Alex-loop, but in the meantime have just
bought one of G4TPH's loops which I shall put through its paces when the
weather improves!  I should imagine that the insensitivity to electric
fields in the near field would be an advantage in electrically noisy
environments. Even a campsite can be very noisy with the inverters from RVs
and the like spewing out rf everywhere.

I'm spoilt for choice of antennas to play with once the KX3 arrives!

73 Stephen G4SJP

On Wednesday, 9 May 2012, Fred Jensen wrote:

> I haven't been following this thread closely but has anyone mentioned a
> small magnetic loop like the Alex-Loop?  I've got a good SOTA friend who
> uses one and loves it.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred K6DGW
> - Northern California Contest Club
> - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
> - www.cqp.org
>
> On 5/9/2012 2:47 AM, David Cutter wrote:
> > What I particularly like about the near end fed is that you are more in
> > control of the local stray capacitances and such like and you only need
> > one slender wire in the sky.  I wrote a power point on the subject which
> > needs a bit of massage but I can send it to you for interest.
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Re: [Elecraft] AGC comparison FW 4.48 vs 4.50 vs 4.51. My face is red

[Ignacy]

This is very interesting. Seems a hardware issue fixed in some versions. 

What are the differences in the K3s that you are using? 

Ignacy

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 with the K2

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

It will work with any HF transceiver.

73,

Eric

www.elecraft.com
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On May 11, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Don Baucom  wrote:

> Any chance of using the KAT500 with the K2
> 
> Thanks
> Don
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[Elecraft] Hey

[David Guernsey]

you should definitely give this a look http://www.tenews15.net/biz/?read=2312038

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Re: [Elecraft] New AGC Firmware testing

[VE3GNO Daniel]

Same on my side...maybe the M-class solar flare is responsible for such poor 
propagation. Waiting better times to give a feedback...so far poor signals

VE3GNO Daniel
 


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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 7:27:05 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] New AGC Firmware testing
  
Unfortunately, conditions have been so bad that it's nearly impossible to
generate a pileup that would emulate what one gets in a contest so testing
it has been inconclusive.  Hopefully there will be something this weekend.



Pete, W1RM



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[Elecraft] KAT500 with the K2

[Don Baucom]

Any chance of using the KAT500 with the K2

Thanks
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[Elecraft] New AGC Firmware testing

[Peter Chamalian]

Unfortunately, conditions have been so bad that it's nearly impossible to
generate a pileup that would emulate what one gets in a contest so testing
it has been inconclusive.  Hopefully there will be something this weekend.

 

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[Elecraft] K3 P3 and Orion II memory of settings?

[David Perrin]

Am I correct in thinking that I can save the IF settings for each rig and then 
just use a pushbutton to select the rig I want to use the P3 with? 
I haven't found that sequence...yet...in the manual.

73 de Dave
K1OPQ
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[Elecraft] HEY

[bb cc]

you should definitely check this out 
http://www.sixnews15.net/biz/?employment=8840457

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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kenwood's new rig? isnt this an elecraft reflector?

[Arie Kleingeld PA3A]

No there are not :-)


There are some OT-threads that can exist in this list.
In the case of the TS990: it is a friendly topic, it is no exploding 
mailbomb,  and it gives the listowner valuable marketing info.

73,
Arie PA3A

Op 10-5-2012 21:23, dm...@nexicom.net schreef:
> It seems like there are more kenwood posts here then Elecraft.   :(
>
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> David Moes
> VE3DVY
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kenwood's new rig? isnt this an elecraft reflector?

[Fred Smith]

The Kenwood comes out higher than a FTDX-5000 even at that figure and
Kenwood will have to beat that price point to stay in the running. An
established radio with benchmarks like the 5000 and K3 are hard numbers to
break and being they are both SDR with firmware releases the numbers keep
improving on both several times a month. I wonder if Kenwood is ready to
devote that kind of time and support level for the continued improvement of
the radio and bug fixes.

As everyone knows Elecraft is one of the very best for that and Yaesu has
kept up on the FT-5000 so far for 2 years. There one failing so far has been
the dreaded white line on the sub display on a few radios, not all but
enough to that it seems a supplier dropped the ball on that lot of oled's.
For the most part we are jumping the gun so far all it seems to be is
Vaporware till a working radio clears the FCC and goes to ARRL for testing.

Let's go back and talk about Elecraft in my case the K2 lol, I'm hot on it
for now.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave KQ3T
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:41 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kenwood's new rig? isnt this an elecraft
reflector?

What am I missing? I don't come close to $6800:

(some prices rounded for convenience)
K3/100-F  2250
KAT3-F 340
P3-F   750
P3SVGA 260
KRX3-F 660
KXV3A  120
KBPF3  150
4 Xtal Filters~550
   
Total 5080

73,
Dave KQ3T



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Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Kenwood's new rig?
From: Dave-Boat Guy
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Thursday, 10/05/2012  2:12 PM

Let us not be too hasty to judge this beast.  According to the Elecraft
price sheet, a comparable K3 setup will cost almost $6800 and that does not
give you a power supply or 200W, which is included with the Kenwood.

Dave



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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Kenwood's new rig? isnt this an elecraft reflector?

[Dave KQ3T]

What am I missing? I don't come close to $6800:

(some prices rounded for convenience)
K3/100-F  2250
KAT3-F 340
P3-F   750
P3SVGA 260
KRX3-F 660
KXV3A  120
KBPF3  150
4 Xtal Filters~550
   
Total 5080

73,
Dave KQ3T



--- Original message ---
Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Kenwood's new rig?
From: Dave-Boat Guy
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Thursday, 10/05/2012  2:12 PM

Let us not be too hasty to judge this beast.  According to the
Elecraft price sheet, a comparable K3 setup will cost almost $6800 and
that does not give you a power supply or 200W, which is included with
the Kenwood.

Dave



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