Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?

2012-06-28 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
The beta test of 4.51 was successful and it will be changed to final on the web 
site shortly. Feel free to download the zipped beta files and install them. The 
final version is exactly the same.

73,
Eric. WA6HHQ

www.elecraft.com
_..._



On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Wolfgang,
> 
> If by "final" you are referring to the number 4.51 - that number is 
> final right now - if there are any changes made,  the number will be 
> changed.
> 
> If the beta test is successful, that same version will be declared 
> release level - but the code3 will be unchanged.
> 
> So, bottom line, if you are having success with 4.51, continue to use it.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/26/2012 3:30 AM, Wolfgang -DK9VZ- wrote:
>> Hi
>> 
>> current beta firmware 4.51 did show great improvements in WPX CW contest.
>> When will it be final?
>> or is there any issue that will be added/changed in the final version?
>> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking, filter) for weak-signal CW work

2012-06-28 Thread Bill W4ZV

G3XDY wrote
> 
> I find the K3 APF invaluable for weak signal work on the microwaves. In 
> the microwave NAC contest last night I worked three stations over 600km 
> on 2.3 and 3.4GHz by aircraft reflection, and the APF really helped pull 
> the weak signals out of the noise. I generally use 1kHz width for CW and 
> my ears for the rest of the filtering, but the APF makes a really big 
> difference on those signals that seem just too weak to copy.
> 

Coming from a totally different operating perspective (low band DXing), I
agree with John.  For signals in white noise (i.e. at or below the noise
floor), I use a wide XFIL (e.g. Inrad 500 with DSP setpoint at 600) and then
carefully peak APF in 1 Hz steps using FINE.  With any other signals in the
XFIL passband including impulse noise (e.g. lightning), I do better without
APF.

73,  Bill



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Re: [Elecraft] "random wire" and the KX3 ATU

2012-06-28 Thread Mike Markowski
Thanks, Mike.  I noticed Jack VE3EED made his calculations using the band
center.  Out of curiosity I just write a little C program that uses band edges
and converts them to half wavelengths.  I plotted the overlapping "red zones"
and, if I didn't make a mistake, came up with slightly different safe lengths. 
The graph and C code are at

  http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/randomWire/

Let me know if you spot errors in the code!  (I didn't include 60m, by the way.)

73,
Mike ab3ap

On 06/27/2012 04:10 PM, Mike WA8BXN wrote:
> [...] to avoid any length that will be a half wave
> or multiple of a half wave on any frequency of interest. Here is one web
> site that addresses the issue: 
> http://www.hamuniverse.com/randomwireantennalengths.html 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking, filter) for weak-signal CW work

2012-06-28 Thread drewko
Just wondering if there are others who would prefer that the APF state
NOT be remembered by the WIDTH I/II preset? For some reason that has
always rankled me a bit. Would prefer to have APF changed only by
means of the DUAL PB button.

73,
Drew
AF2Z



On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 03:27:00 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>
>G3XDY wrote
>> 
>> I find the K3 APF invaluable for weak signal work on the microwaves. In 
>> the microwave NAC contest last night I worked three stations over 600km 
>> on 2.3 and 3.4GHz by aircraft reflection, and the APF really helped pull 
>> the weak signals out of the noise. I generally use 1kHz width for CW and 
>> my ears for the rest of the filtering, but the APF makes a really big 
>> difference on those signals that seem just too weak to copy.
>> 
>
>Coming from a totally different operating perspective (low band DXing), I
>agree with John.  For signals in white noise (i.e. at or below the noise
>floor), I use a wide XFIL (e.g. Inrad 500 with DSP setpoint at 600) and then
>carefully peak APF in 1 Hz steps using FINE.  With any other signals in the
>XFIL passband including impulse noise (e.g. lightning), I do better without
>APF.
>
>73,  Bill

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?

2012-06-28 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
I'm at work, and I don't want to forget, so let me ask this: Do you post
an announcement for the release? Last time I think I completely missed
it and was surprised when my K3 updated (and I've only had it for a few
months!)

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012, Eric Swartz  WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:

> The beta test of 4.51 was successful and it will be changed to final on the 
> web site shortly. Feel free to download the zipped beta files and install 
> them. The final version is exactly the same.
>
> 73,
> Eric. WA6HHQ
>
> www.elecraft.com
> _..._
>
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>
>> Wolfgang,
>>
>> If by "final" you are referring to the number 4.51 - that number is
>> final right now - if there are any changes made,  the number will be
>> changed.
>>
>> If the beta test is successful, that same version will be declared
>> release level - but the code3 will be unchanged.
>>
>> So, bottom line, if you are having success with 4.51, continue to use it.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
>> On 6/26/2012 3:30 AM, Wolfgang -DK9VZ- wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> current beta firmware 4.51 did show great improvements in WPX CW contest.
>>> When will it be final?
>>> or is there any issue that will be added/changed in the final version?

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?

2012-06-28 Thread Scott Manthe
Eric,
I thought that there were issues with the CW decoder w/4.51. Did I miss 
the fix on this?

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 6/28/12 6:23 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
> The beta test of 4.51 was successful and it will be changed to final on the 
> web site shortly. Feel free to download the zipped beta files and install 
> them. The final version is exactly the same.
>
> 73,
> Eric. WA6HHQ
>
> www.elecraft.com
> _..._
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?

2012-06-28 Thread dmoes
CW decoder worked fine for me on field day.  and since I still have 
the CW training wheels on, I sure needed the help.

CW decode THR at 3 and speed at 30-90 (I think what ever is the higher 
setting)   this decoded fine with speeds well below 30.cant 
remember exact AGC settings but fairly high threshold for CW. I do 
tend to set AF gain to one level and use rf gain for good listening 
level   this also helps the cw decoder by keeping noise down.



David Moes
VE3DVY


>
> --- Original message ---
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware final?
> From: Scott Manthe 
> To: 
> Date: Thursday, 28/06/2012 11:47 AM
>
> Eric,
> I thought that there were issues with the CW decoder w/4.51. Did I 
> miss
> the fix on this?
>
> 73,
> Scott, N9AA
>
>
> On 6/28/12 6:23 AM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
>>
>> The beta test of 4.51 was successful and it will be changed to final 
>> on the web site shortly. Feel free to download the zipped beta files 
>> and install them. The final version is exactly the same.
>>
>> 73,
>> Eric. WA6HHQ
>>
>> http://www.elecraft.com
>> _..._
>>
>>
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[Elecraft] kx3 options shipping status

2012-06-28 Thread John Cooper
If one just needs to purchase a kx3 option without the kx3 itself ie just the 
tuner or paddle or filters is there still a “wait” untill all orders are caught 
up?  Or are the options shipping immediately? I know the chargers are on 
backorder.  Theres no shipping status on the webpage for individual options so 
not sure how that works.  Has anyone that already has there kx3 ordered 
something for it and received it or what?

Thanks WT5Y
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter) for weak-signal CW work

2012-06-28 Thread Graham Kimbell G3TCT
I find APF very useful for VHF/UHF work too, and the need to hold the 
button a problem.  How about making it possible to switch the APF on and 
off through a programmable function button - is that an option?

Graham

On 19:59, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> > And the point is: it's fixable.
>
> It is not fixable to your definition without changing both the front
> panel (engraving) and keytops (legend).  Moving XFIL to HOLD would
> be extremely inconvenient for users of that function (it is very
> difficult to do multiple HOLD gestures) and the current assignments
> are not cumbersome.
>
> One can also assign a PF Key (I use PF 2) to toggle the function of
> DUAL PB=HOLD between Dual PB and APF as needed.
>
> The current implementation is quite usable given the limited number
> of individual controls (number of buttons) available on the front
> panel.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
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[Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread John Kountz
Fellow K3 guys:
N6L, our 2AORG solar powered Field Day station was specifically configured
to demonstrate off-the-grid emergency opperations and thus provided an
excellent opportunity to put one of my two K3 (sn 3271 and 2215) to work
under less than the comforts of home.
Disquietingly, the K3 wasn't up to the task!
Let me explain: both the K3 and our second radio, a TenTec Eagle (Model
599AT sn 3051271430) were fed from the same 120 watt Power Film Panel /110
AmpHr GSM battery combination and operated at 100W output.  In tandom
operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 10
VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
With both radios in SSB mode and following the first K3 shut down, the K3s
operating environment was changed: different bands, different antennas,
reduced power output (to 10 watts) different operators and, finally
different solar /GSM battery combinations.
None remedied the problem.
Following from our experience, while the K3 and the Eagle offer excellent
operating characteristics, beware of the K3 under extenuating
circumstances; it's liable to let you down even at low output power levels.
The only potential solution may be found in a voltage boost device such as
the "N8XJK boost regulators"
http://stores.tgelectronics.org/Categories.bok?category=Boosters
Unfortunately, following the research necessary to uncover a source of
these devices Field Day was over.
Next year for sure!
73
John Kountz, WO1S/T6EE

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Re: [Elecraft] N6KR spring cleaning -- parts and other electronics stuff free to good home

2012-06-28 Thread Jim - W6VAR
Wayne,

Let me know if your "buyer" doesn't work out. I'm in San Ramon and my folks
live in Belmont, so I can shoot over easily.

Jim

W6VAR

K3, KX1, KX3 Pending

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Gregg Marco W6IZT
John:

That is odd, we ran a K3 from a 27 AH battery without any problems
whatsoever.

Gregg
W6IZT

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Kountz
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 1:20 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

Fellow K3 guys:
N6L, our 2AORG solar powered Field Day station was specifically configured
to demonstrate off-the-grid emergency opperations and thus provided an
excellent opportunity to put one of my two K3 (sn 3271 and 2215) to work
under less than the comforts of home.
Disquietingly, the K3 wasn't up to the task!
Let me explain: both the K3 and our second radio, a TenTec Eagle (Model
599AT sn 3051271430) were fed from the same 120 watt Power Film Panel /110
AmpHr GSM battery combination and operated at 100W output.  In tandom
operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 10
VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
With both radios in SSB mode and following the first K3 shut down, the K3s
operating environment was changed: different bands, different antennas,
reduced power output (to 10 watts) different operators and, finally
different solar /GSM battery combinations.
None remedied the problem.
Following from our experience, while the K3 and the Eagle offer excellent
operating characteristics, beware of the K3 under extenuating circumstances;
it's liable to let you down even at low output power levels.
The only potential solution may be found in a voltage boost device such as
the "N8XJK boost regulators"
http://stores.tgelectronics.org/Categories.bok?category=Boosters
Unfortunately, following the research necessary to uncover a source of these
devices Field Day was over.
Next year for sure!
73
John Kountz, WO1S/T6EE

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Re: [Elecraft] kx3 options shipping status

2012-06-28 Thread Jim Lowman
I decided after the fact to order the paddle and mic.
Since I was ordering a K3, I asked if they could be included with that 
order,
rather than waiting for the KX3 to ship.

At that time, probably 60 or so days ago, I was told that the mic would
ship with the K3, but they were saving the paddles to ship with units
ready to go.  That situation may have changed.

Why not give the nice ladies at Elecraft Sales a call or send an e-mail?

72/73 de Jim - AD6CW


On 6/28/2012 9:29 AM, John Cooper wrote:
> If one just needs to purchase a kx3 option without the kx3 itself ie just the 
> tuner or paddle or filters is there still a “wait” untill all orders are 
> caught up?  Or are the options shipping immediately? I know the chargers are 
> on backorder.  Theres no shipping status on the webpage for individual 
> options so not sure how that works.  Has anyone that already has there kx3 
> ordered something for it and received it or what?
>
> Thanks WT5Y
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter) for weak-signal CW work

2012-06-28 Thread Dick Dievendorff
It should be possible using a command macro.

AP0; turns CW APF off,
AP1; turns CW APF off,

SWH29; toggles DualPB which is APF if you have the K3 menu parameter
CONFIG:DUAL PB set to APF.

73 de Dick, K6KR

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Graham Kimbell G3TCT
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:52 AM
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter) for
weak-signal CW work

I find APF very useful for VHF/UHF work too, and the need to hold the button
a problem.  How about making it possible to switch the APF on and off
through a programmable function button - is that an option?

Graham

On 19:59, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> > And the point is: it's fixable.
>
> It is not fixable to your definition without changing both the front 
> panel (engraving) and keytops (legend).  Moving XFIL to HOLD would be 
> extremely inconvenient for users of that function (it is very 
> difficult to do multiple HOLD gestures) and the current assignments 
> are not cumbersome.
>
> One can also assign a PF Key (I use PF 2) to toggle the function of 
> DUAL PB=HOLD between Dual PB and APF as needed.
>
> The current implementation is quite usable given the limited number of 
> individual controls (number of buttons) available on the front panel.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
John

The fact that the voltage dropped below 10 volts DC causes me to wonder 
about the either the adequacy of the wire size used (for the distance 
involved) or the tightness of the connections to the battery.  A 110 AH 
GSM battery should not drop that much with even 2 100 watt radios 
drawing current from it.

The fact that the K3 is designed to shut down when the voltage gets too 
low is a good point in its design IMHO.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/28/2012 1:19 PM, John Kountz wrote:
> Disquietingly, the K3 wasn't up to the task!
> Let me explain: both the K3 and our second radio, a TenTec Eagle (Model
> 599AT sn 3051271430) were fed from the same 120 watt Power Film Panel /110
> AmpHr GSM battery combination and operated at 100W output.  In tandom
> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 10
> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Rick Bates
I bet the TT got pretty dirty TX at low voltage. 

Rick

Tiny iPhone keypad, sorry for typos

On Jun 28, 2012, at 10:19 AM, "John Kountz"  wrote:

> Fellow K3 guys:
> N6L, our 2AORG solar powered Field Day station was specifically configured
> to demonstrate off-the-grid emergency opperations and thus provided an
> excellent opportunity to put one of my two K3 (sn 3271 and 2215) to work
> under less than the comforts of home.
> Disquietingly, the K3 wasn't up to the task!
> Let me explain: both the K3 and our second radio, a TenTec Eagle (Model
> 599AT sn 3051271430) were fed from the same 120 watt Power Film Panel /110
> AmpHr GSM battery combination and operated at 100W output.  In tandom
> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 10
> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
> With both radios in SSB mode and following the first K3 shut down, the K3s
> operating environment was changed: different bands, different antennas,
> reduced power output (to 10 watts) different operators and, finally
> different solar /GSM battery combinations.
> None remedied the problem.
> Following from our experience, while the K3 and the Eagle offer excellent
> operating characteristics, beware of the K3 under extenuating
> circumstances; it's liable to let you down even at low output power levels.
> The only potential solution may be found in a voltage boost device such as
> the "N8XJK boost regulators"
> http://stores.tgelectronics.org/Categories.bok?category=Boosters
> Unfortunately, following the research necessary to uncover a source of
> these devices Field Day was over.
> Next year for sure!
> 73
> John Kountz, WO1S/T6EE
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
We also ran my K3 at 100 watts connected to a 100 AH battery and solar 
panel for a portion of Field day - the wire was #12 AWG about 5 feet 
long and the connections were tight.  Just for kicks, we checked the 
voltage during a 100 watt steady keydown and found it to be over 12.3 
volts after a half hour of operation.

73,
Donn W3FPR

On 6/28/2012 1:28 PM, Gregg Marco W6IZT wrote:
> John:
>
> That is odd, we ran a K3 from a 27 AH battery without any problems
> whatsoever.
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter) for weak-signal CW work

2012-06-28 Thread Dick Dievendorff
AP1 turns CW APF on.

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dick Dievendorff
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 10:45 AM
To: 'Graham Kimbell G3TCT'
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter) for
weak-signal CW work

It should be possible using a command macro.

AP0; turns CW APF off,
AP1; turns CW APF off,

SWH29; toggles DualPB which is APF if you have the K3 menu parameter
CONFIG:DUAL PB set to APF.

73 de Dick, K6KR

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Graham Kimbell G3TCT
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 9:52 AM
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/KX3 Operating Tip: APF (audio peaking filter) for
weak-signal CW work

I find APF very useful for VHF/UHF work too, and the need to hold the button
a problem.  How about making it possible to switch the APF on and off
through a programmable function button - is that an option?

Graham

On 19:59, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>
> > And the point is: it's fixable.
>
> It is not fixable to your definition without changing both the front 
> panel (engraving) and keytops (legend).  Moving XFIL to HOLD would be 
> extremely inconvenient for users of that function (it is very 
> difficult to do multiple HOLD gestures) and the current assignments 
> are not cumbersome.
>
> One can also assign a PF Key (I use PF 2) to toggle the function of 
> DUAL PB=HOLD between Dual PB and APF as needed.
>
> The current implementation is quite usable given the limited number of 
> individual controls (number of buttons) available on the front panel.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Peter Wollan
The problem here isn't the battery AH capacity, but the voltage
supply.  It could be dropping below 10 vdc because both radios are on
the same supply, or because the power supply wires are too fine gauge,
or because the battery is defective.

The K3 is less robust to supply voltage than the other Elecraft
radios.  The K2 is rated for 10-15 volts;  the K1, KX1, and KX3 go
down a lot lower, I think 8 volts.  I looked at the K3 documents to
see what minimum voltage it requires, and I couldn't find it -- I
think it's something like 11, but it may be 11.5 or even 12.

You'd probably do fine just by using a separate battery for each
radio, and not letting it run down too far.  A voltage booster isn't
needed, as lots of operators all over the world have demonstrated.

  Peter W0LLN


On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM, John Kountz  wrote:
>...  In tandom
> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 10
> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Ken K3IU
Page 8 of the Owners Manual... Specifications. 11V Minimum.
73.
Ken K3IU

On 6/28/2012 2:07 PM, Peter Wollan wrote:
> The problem here isn't the battery AH capacity, but the voltage
> supply.  It could be dropping below 10 vdc because both radios are on
> the same supply, or because the power supply wires are too fine gauge,
> or because the battery is defective.
>
> The K3 is less robust to supply voltage than the other Elecraft
> radios.  The K2 is rated for 10-15 volts;  the K1, KX1, and KX3 go
> down a lot lower, I think 8 volts.  I looked at the K3 documents to
> see what minimum voltage it requires, and I couldn't find it -- I
> think it's something like 11, but it may be 11.5 or even 12.
>
> You'd probably do fine just by using a separate battery for each
> radio, and not letting it run down too far.  A voltage booster isn't
> needed, as lots of operators all over the world have demonstrated.
>
>Peter W0LLN
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM, John Kountz  wrote:
>> ...  In tandom
>> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 10
>> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
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[Elecraft] KX3 and NaP3

2012-06-28 Thread Barry LaZar
Now that Field Day is over, I've had a chance to play with my KX3. I 
have NaP3 running with my KX3 and using an E-MU 0202 sound card with my 
laptop. It's a real WOW! I have a panadapter, effectively, and I can 
play with the PowerSDR filters that are a part of NaP3. NaP3 follows my 
tuning of the KX3 or I can click on a signal and have the KX3 move to 
it. It is a really useful adjunct to the overall capability. The only 
thing I've had a problem with is the IF offsets. They are different for 
each mode, and not by a little. Unfortunately, NaP3 doesn't remember the 
offsets by mode. However, I still like the match up and suggest KX3 
owners have a go at trying this. The offset issue can be addressed by 
noting them and putting them in manually, at least for the time being. 
Having the receiver I/Q available seems to have proved a seriously good 
idea.

73,
Barry
K3NDM
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
The K3/10 will run down to 9.0 V or so -- much lower than almost any  
other desktop transceiver. Of course available power output will drop  
at such low voltages.

The K3/100 needs 11 V to make 100 W on most bands (and higher on some  
bands), but it should not shut down completely until you hit that 9.0  
V level. The radio will automatically reduce power (or drop completely  
out of QRO mode, bypassing the KPA3) as required.

If you notice any "interesting" behavior other than what I described,  
let me know.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:07 AM, Peter Wollan wrote:

> The problem here isn't the battery AH capacity, but the voltage
> supply.  It could be dropping below 10 vdc because both radios are on
> the same supply, or because the power supply wires are too fine gauge,
> or because the battery is defective.
>
> The K3 is less robust to supply voltage than the other Elecraft
> radios.  The K2 is rated for 10-15 volts;  the K1, KX1, and KX3 go
> down a lot lower, I think 8 volts.  I looked at the K3 documents to
> see what minimum voltage it requires, and I couldn't find it -- I
> think it's something like 11, but it may be 11.5 or even 12.
>
> You'd probably do fine just by using a separate battery for each
> radio, and not letting it run down too far.  A voltage booster isn't
> needed, as lots of operators all over the world have demonstrated.
>
>  Peter W0LLN
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM, John Kountz  wrote:
>> ...  In tandom
>> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips  
>> (below 10
>> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
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[Elecraft] KX3 BETA firmware release (rev 1.06) -- major improvements in all areas

2012-06-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
KX3 beta firmware rev 1.06 (with DSP rev 0.92) is now available. This  
is major update from the current production release (0.99). The  
release notes for 1.06, below, show all changes since rev 0.99,  
organized into new features and bug fixes. Dozens of volunteers have  
been pounding on intermediate field-test releases for several weeks --  
thanks, guys.

You'll need the KX3 Utility application to download and install  
firmware. For full instructions, refer to our KX3 software page:

http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/KX3_software.htm

We recommend that all KX3 owners install the new firmware. We hope to  
promote it to a full-production release on Monday.

Thanks,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *

MCU 1.06/DSP 0.52, 6-28-2012
NEW FEATURES (since rev. 0.99):

* AGC IMPROVED:  AGC attack/decay now uses precision log/antilog  
functions (same as in the latest K3 firmware release).

* NOISE PULSE REJECTION: The KX3 can now detect high-amplitude noise  
pulses (as from appliances or florescent lamps) and remove them before  
they pin the S-meter. To enable this feature, locate the AGC*THR menu  
entry, tap ‘6’ (DLY ), and set AGC PLS to NOR.

* AUTOSPOT TUNES RIT:  If RIT is on, AUTO-SPOT fine-tunes only the RIT  
offset, leaving VFO A’s frequency untouched. (Auto-spot applies to CW  
and PSK-D modes; it is enabled by turning on CWT. Tap SPOT to auto- 
spot.)

* VFO TUNING NOISE REDUCTION (VFO NR and RX SHFT): Both the VFO NR and  
RX SHFT menu entries can be set per-band. Using them together  
virtually eliminates VFO tuning noise. This is typically needed only  
on 6 meters. Note: With RX SHFT set to 8.0, dual watch is not  
available on that band. This restriction will be removed in a future  
firmware release.

* TX COMPRESSION DISABLED in DATA-A and AFSK-A modes.

* RX EQ AND TX EQ DISABLED in DATA-A and AFSK-A modes.

* CW TEXT DECODE IMPROVED: CW text decode now includes a user-settable  
threshold, improving copy and better rejecting noise. To turn on CW  
decode:  Hold TEXT, then rotate VFO B to select a receive signal  
threshold (RX THR1-9). For weak signals, use low thresholds (RX  
THR1-3). With strong signals, medium thresholds (RX THR4-6) provide  
better copy. At very high code speeds, the highest thresholds work  
best (RX THR7-9). Next, turn on CWT (CW tuning aid). Tune VFO A until  
the middle CWT segment flashes in time with the incoming CW. If  
necessary, further adjust the RX THR level to provide best copy. Tips:  
A narrow bandwidth setting (0.1 to 0.2 kHz) should be used if the band  
is noisy. Signals with a good signal/noise ratio and well-spaced CW  
elements will have the lowest error rate. When the KX3 detects a non- 
Morse character code, it displays an asterisk (*).

* MORSE CODE AUDIO USER INTERFACE CHANGES:  MENU:SW TONE can be set to  
CODE nn (where nn is the desired code speed) to provide CW feedback on  
all controls. This is intended primarily for use by blind operators.  
Enhancements: Tap DISP to hear the operating mode followed by the kHz  
digits of the VFO A frequency (e.g., if you’re on 14040.0 CW, you’ll  
hear “C 040”). Changing bands or recalling a frequency memory sends  
the MHz digits as well (e.g. “C 14040”). Most of the rotary controls  
now report their settings (DLY, CMP, KEYER, MIC, PWR, and MON). Many  
additional improvements are planned, as well as a guide to touch-only  
use of the KX3.

BUG FIXES (since rev 0.99):

* POWER-OFF/ON SWITCHING: We’ve seen a few cases where the KX3 could  
not be turned on after being turned off. This should no longer occur.

* AUTO-SPOT now works correctly even if coarse VFO tuning was in effect.

* UNEXPECTED PREAMP TURN-OFF when some controls were used: fixed.

* INTERMITTENT TX ALC BAR GRAPH LEVEL: fixed.

* LOSS OF RX AUDIO IN SSB MODE @ BANDWIDTH ~2.40 kHz: fixed.

* TX EQ now works correctly. In some cases it was having no effect.

* DUAL WATCH BUG: The dual-watch feature was staying partially engaged  
at all times with DUAL RX set to AUTO, even when VFOs were tuned out  
of dual watch range. This resulted in some “ghost” signals at certain  
offsets. Fixed.

* MANUAL NOTCH is no longer turned off when you “normalize” the  
passband.

* FREQUENCY MEMORY FIXES: A channel-scan group can now include memory  
#00. Also, recalling an unprogrammed memory no longer locks VFO A.


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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread David Gilbert


Let me make sure I understand this correctly.  Your K3, which is spec'd 
for a minimum operating voltage of 11 volts, is somehow "not up to the 
task" because it doesn't work properly at voltages less than 10 volts.

I look at it differently.  Your power source was clearly not up to the 
task, and apparently neither was your system engineering if the power 
source was not capable of providing the required power under the 
circumstances at hand.  At first glance, I'd be surprised if you were 
getting anything even close to 120 watts out of that solar panel since 
they are spec'd for full sunlight conditions that rarely hold up on a 
continuous basis (been there, done that), so even a voltage booster 
isn't going to function very long when you're draining enough current to 
feed two rigs at 100 watts.

I think you need to rethink your strategy 

Dave   AB7E





On 6/28/2012 10:19 AM, John Kountz wrote:
> Fellow K3 guys:
> N6L, our 2AORG solar powered Field Day station was specifically configured
> to demonstrate off-the-grid emergency opperations and thus provided an
> excellent opportunity to put one of my two K3 (sn 3271 and 2215) to work
> under less than the comforts of home.
> Disquietingly, the K3 wasn't up to the task!
> Let me explain: both the K3 and our second radio, a TenTec Eagle (Model
> 599AT sn 3051271430) were fed from the same 120 watt Power Film Panel /110
> AmpHr GSM battery combination and operated at 100W output.  In tandom
> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 10
> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
> With both radios in SSB mode and following the first K3 shut down, the K3s
> operating environment was changed: different bands, different antennas,
> reduced power output (to 10 watts) different operators and, finally
> different solar /GSM battery combinations.
> None remedied the problem.
> Following from our experience, while the K3 and the Eagle offer excellent
> operating characteristics, beware of the K3 under extenuating
> circumstances; it's liable to let you down even at low output power levels.
> The only potential solution may be found in a voltage boost device such as
> the "N8XJK boost regulators"
> http://stores.tgelectronics.org/Categories.bok?category=Boosters
> Unfortunately, following the research necessary to uncover a source of
> these devices Field Day was over.
> Next year for sure!
> 73
> John Kountz, WO1S/T6EE
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Elecraft K3
I would not want to be running an IMD sensitive mode like PSK with 11 V.

We came close at our location a few times between generator runs - 11.3 V  or 
so and my outboard IMD meter still showed an acceptable signal - IMD -25db or 
less.

73 de Eric, KG6MZS
 
On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> The K3/100 needs 11 V to make 100 W on most bands (and higher on some  
> bands), but it should not shut down completely until you hit that 9.0  
> V level. The radio will automatically reduce power (or drop completely  
> out of QRO mode, bypassing the KPA3) as required.
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
If your supply voltage is too low for a given application, I suggest  
dropping TX power. In the case of PSK31, which works well at very low  
S/N ratios, I suspect 50 W would have worked just as well as 100 W for  
99% of contacts.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:54 AM, Elecraft K3 wrote:

> I would not want to be running an IMD sensitive mode like PSK with  
> 11 V.
>
> We came close at our location a few times between generator runs -  
> 11.3 V  or so and my outboard IMD meter still showed an acceptable  
> signal - IMD -25db or less.
>
> 73 de Eric, KG6MZS
>
> On Jun 28, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>
>> The K3/100 needs 11 V to make 100 W on most bands (and higher on some
>> bands), but it should not shut down completely until you hit that 9.0
>> V level. The radio will automatically reduce power (or drop  
>> completely
>> out of QRO mode, bypassing the KPA3) as required.

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread dmoes

K3 voltage specs are 11-15Vand the Eagle spec is 13.8V +- 15%
that's  about 11.7V- 15.9V.   even though the Eagle would not shut 
down you were definitely running below spec voltage and probably 
causing some IMD  if not excessive heat.

My  other concern would be how low was the battery voltage getting.   
AGM  or any wet battery for that matter should not be used when the 
voltage right at the battery posts drops to low.   if it is you are 
damaging the battery. and 10V is definitely too low.   At my summer 
cottage its solar charged battery only.when the cell voltage is 
near 11.4V  I still get  11V at the rig at 100W keydown as I use heavy 
cable mostly 10AWG from the battery only 5ft away and a short 12 AWG 
from the distribution to the rig.   The battery also runs lighting 
etc.   Ive never had the K3 shutdown due to voltage faults. and my 
rule is if it goes below 11.3V at the terminals it time to go QRT and 
bed.

The K3 shutting down is just a safety measure to prevent damage and 
dirty transmissions.   Not a problem in my opinion, more a good 
feature.I hope that the other rig wasn't splattering to much at  
those lower voltages.


David Moes
VE3DVY


>
> --- Original message ---
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3
> From: Peter Wollan 
> To: John Kountz 
> Cc: 
> Date: Thursday, 28/06/2012  2:07 PM
>
> The problem here isn't the battery AH capacity, but the voltage
> supply.  It could be dropping below 10 vdc because both radios are on
> the same supply, or because the power supply wires are too fine gauge,
> or because the battery is defective.
>
> The K3 is less robust to supply voltage than the other Elecraft
> radios.  The K2 is rated for 10-15 volts;  the K1, KX1, and KX3 go
> down a lot lower, I think 8 volts.  I looked at the K3 documents to
> see what minimum voltage it requires, and I couldn't find it -- I
> think it's something like 11, but it may be 11.5 or even 12.
>
> You'd probably do fine just by using a separate battery for each
> radio, and not letting it run down too far.  A voltage booster isn't
> needed, as lots of operators all over the world have demonstrated.
>
>Peter W0LLN
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM, John Kountz  wrote:
>>
>> ...  In tandom
>> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 
>> 10
>> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and NaP3

2012-06-28 Thread Igor Sokolov
Barry,
I am using KX3 +NaP3+LP bridge + TR4W logger and have no issues with the 
offset. Na3P allows one to set different offset for different modes but I 
use only global offset of 8000Hz and it works for me at least on CW and SSB 
with no problems.

73, Igor UA9CDC

- Original Message - 
From: "Barry LaZar" 
To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 12:18 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 and NaP3


> Now that Field Day is over, I've had a chance to play with my KX3. I
> have NaP3 running with my KX3 and using an E-MU 0202 sound card with my
> laptop. It's a real WOW! I have a panadapter, effectively, and I can
> play with the PowerSDR filters that are a part of NaP3. NaP3 follows my
> tuning of the KX3 or I can click on a signal and have the KX3 move to
> it. It is a really useful adjunct to the overall capability. The only
> thing I've had a problem with is the IF offsets. They are different for
> each mode, and not by a little. Unfortunately, NaP3 doesn't remember the
> offsets by mode. However, I still like the match up and suggest KX3
> owners have a go at trying this. The offset issue can be addressed by
> noting them and putting them in manually, at least for the time being.
> Having the receiver I/Q available seems to have proved a seriously good
> idea.
>
> 73,
> Barry
> K3NDM
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Al Lorona
It seems to me that the solution is to improve the voltage regulation of your 
power system, rather than implicate this radio or that one for it's inability 
to 
follow the wide voltage swings you are experiencing. Even if Brand X "works" 
under such conditions, why would you want to, for the various reasons already 
stated? Just because my car still happens to run with 10% water in the 
gasoline, 
is it a good idea to continue to do so?

Yes, it might have been an inconvenience for your Field Day 2012, but I hope 
for 
2013 you'll have a better solution. The suggestion to reduce K3 power by 2 dB 
(1/3 of an S-unit) to 63 W is a good one which I have followed for 15 years, 
and 
could well solve all of your problems.

Additionally, I have used a boost regulator after the N8XJK design for almost 
ten years and now consider it indispensable. I made 300 contacts on one 35 A-h 
battery and a few more on another battery. That's pretty good efficiency.


Regards,

Al  W6LX





> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM, John Kountz  wrote:
>>
>> ...  In tandom
>> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 
>> 10
>> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and NaP3

2012-06-28 Thread Barry LaZar
Igor,
  I'm only using the global offset. To be honest, I have only 12 
hours experience with my lash up. Getting it all to play nicely on 
Windows 7 was a challenge. I first needed to find a Win7 driver for my 
sound card, and there were a few idiocies with my laptop. But, it works 
know, and other than the offset issue, it really is nice. I'll fix the 
offset problem and function correctly. It is good to read that there is 
someone else to likes to play.:-)

73,
Barry
K3NDM

On 6/28/2012 3:06 PM, Igor Sokolov wrote:
> Barry,
> I am using KX3 +NaP3+LP bridge + TR4W logger and have no issues with 
> the offset. Na3P allows one to set different offset for different 
> modes but I use only global offset of 8000Hz and it works for me at 
> least on CW and SSB with no problems.
>
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>
> - Original Message - From: "Barry LaZar" 
> To: "Elecraft Reflector" 
> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2012 12:18 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 and NaP3
>
>
>> Now that Field Day is over, I've had a chance to play with my KX3. I
>> have NaP3 running with my KX3 and using an E-MU 0202 sound card with my
>> laptop. It's a real WOW! I have a panadapter, effectively, and I can
>> play with the PowerSDR filters that are a part of NaP3. NaP3 follows my
>> tuning of the KX3 or I can click on a signal and have the KX3 move to
>> it. It is a really useful adjunct to the overall capability. The only
>> thing I've had a problem with is the IF offsets. They are different for
>> each mode, and not by a little. Unfortunately, NaP3 doesn't remember the
>> offsets by mode. However, I still like the match up and suggest KX3
>> owners have a go at trying this. The offset issue can be addressed by
>> noting them and putting them in manually, at least for the time being.
>> Having the receiver I/Q available seems to have proved a seriously good
>> idea.
>>
>> 73,
>> Barry
>> K3NDM
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[Elecraft] [K2] Radio Owls' Field Day

2012-06-28 Thread Al Lorona


I just wanted to post my own Field Day observations without necessarily 
starting 
another thread.

Two things I was extremely happy about:

1/ My 13-year-old son, Simon, made almost 100 contacts by himself. He's had his 
license for ten months. Even Blaise my six-year-old made three contacts and was 
trying for more!

2/ Even though I hadn't used the K2 since last Field Day I never once thought, 
"Okay, I'm operating an Elecraft K2," in order to think about how to do 
something. Instead, I *never* adjusted a control other than the tuning knob; I 
can't even remember being aware of the digital display; the 'transparency' of 
the K2 simply left me hearing and visualizing signals without being aware of 
the 
rig itself. In short, the rig disappeared. This is a litmus test that I apply 
to 
all rigs and only two, the K2 and the Omni VI, have ever passed the test. Very 
cool.

I'll have to re-think setting up in a rain forest next year because rain kept 
us 
off the air for all except 6 hours... but we hope to work you all from a 
different location in 2013.

Regards,

The Radio Owls
Al W6LX  (+ Simon KJ6QNN)
Siskiyou National Forest, Oregon
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[Elecraft] Where's The Propagation?

2012-06-28 Thread Dyarnes
Hi all,

Well, I feel like the proverbial guy who is all dressed up and nowhere to 
go!  My KX3 is up and running, and the bands suck!  I did make 3 or 4 nice 
QSO's, but they were cut short by erratic conditions.  Right now I don't 
hear much of anything.  Oh well, I can always spend time re-reading the 
manual!

Dave W7AQK


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Re: [Elecraft] KTS1 K1 Tilt Stand

2012-06-28 Thread Joe Vrabel
Hello: I had the KTS1 Tilt Stand for the K1 a few years ago.  I think if you
look at the bottom cross piece you will see a few tapped holes. The long
tilt stand pieces store there horizomtally.  There should be a few of the
thumb screws in those holes to secure.  Yours may be missing. Hope this
helps. 73

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Adrian
Why dont you FD guys take a 2v battery and series it with the 6 cell 
12.8v LA battery that you usually use, matching the ah ratings.

  I use a 7 X 2v lead-acid cell backup battery system in my 15.2v power 
supply system.
In a power failure I have 14.6v available.

On 28/06/2012 18:07, Peter Wollan wrote:
> The problem here isn't the battery AH capacity, but the voltage
> supply.  It could be dropping below 10 vdc because both radios are on
> the same supply, or because the power supply wires are too fine gauge,
> or because the battery is defective.
>
> The K3 is less robust to supply voltage than the other Elecraft
> radios.  The K2 is rated for 10-15 volts;  the K1, KX1, and KX3 go
> down a lot lower, I think 8 volts.  I looked at the K3 documents to
> see what minimum voltage it requires, and I couldn't find it -- I
> think it's something like 11, but it may be 11.5 or even 12.
>
> You'd probably do fine just by using a separate battery for each
> radio, and not letting it run down too far.  A voltage booster isn't
> needed, as lots of operators all over the world have demonstrated.
>
>Peter W0LLN
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM, John Kountz  wrote:
>> ...  In tandom
>> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below 10
>> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
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Re: [Elecraft] Where's The Propagation?

2012-06-28 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hi Dave,

It might be worthwhile to keep an eye on 6m if you are not already doing 
this, you might find some S. Americans (LU, CE etc) coming through via  a 
TEP or TEP + Es path.   During most of this month stations in South and 
Central America have been heard here at good strength on 10m around our 
midnight (Z + 0200), I think via a TEP + Es path.  So "things" are happening 
in the ionosphere :-)

73,
Geoff
LX2AO


On June 28, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Dave W7AQK wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Well, I feel like the proverbial guy who is all dressed up and nowhere to
> go!  My KX3 is up and running, and the bands suck!  I did make 3 or 4 nice
> QSO's, but they were cut short by erratic conditions.  Right now I don't
> hear much of anything.  Oh well, I can always spend time re-reading the
> manual!
>
> Dave W7AQK

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Matthew Zilmer
You might want to get a battery booster.  Here is one 
http://stores.tgelectronics.org/Detail.bok?no=10.

I can recommend that one.  Had one for a couple years and use it to boost to 
14.5VDC from whatever voltage any time of day from a solar-charged battery.  I 
think my K3 likes that 14.5V!

Matt Zilmer
Consultant - Product Management Dept.
Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
Tel: (909) 394-6052
Cell: (909) 730-6552
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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Peter Wollan
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:07 AM
To: John Kountz
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

The problem here isn't the battery AH capacity, but the voltage supply.  It 
could be dropping below 10 vdc because both radios are on the same supply, or 
because the power supply wires are too fine gauge, or because the battery is 
defective.

The K3 is less robust to supply voltage than the other Elecraft radios.  The K2 
is rated for 10-15 volts;  the K1, KX1, and KX3 go down a lot lower, I think 8 
volts.  I looked at the K3 documents to see what minimum voltage it requires, 
and I couldn't find it -- I think it's something like 11, but it may be 11.5 or 
even 12.

You'd probably do fine just by using a separate battery for each radio, and not 
letting it run down too far.  A voltage booster isn't needed, as lots of 
operators all over the world have demonstrated.

  Peter W0LLN


On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM, John Kountz  wrote:
>...  In tandom
> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips (below
>10
> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
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Re: [Elecraft] kx3 options shipping status

2012-06-28 Thread John Cooper
Ive been trying to resist the urge to call them, every call is precious time 
taken away from filling orders.

John

-Original Message- 
From: Jim Lowman
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:29 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] kx3 options shipping status

I decided after the fact to order the paddle and mic.
Since I was ordering a K3, I asked if they could be included with that
order,
rather than waiting for the KX3 to ship.

At that time, probably 60 or so days ago, I was told that the mic would
ship with the K3, but they were saving the paddles to ship with units
ready to go.  That situation may have changed.

Why not give the nice ladies at Elecraft Sales a call or send an e-mail?

72/73 de Jim - AD6CW


On 6/28/2012 9:29 AM, John Cooper wrote:
> If one just needs to purchase a kx3 option without the kx3 itself ie just 
> the tuner or paddle or filters is there still a “wait” untill all orders 
> are caught up?  Or are the options shipping immediately? I know the 
> chargers are on backorder.  Theres no shipping status on the webpage for 
> individual options so not sure how that works.  Has anyone that already 
> has there kx3 ordered something for it and received it or what?
>
> Thanks WT5Y
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Jack Brindle
Guys, I think the point is this: There is a real emergency. You are  
off someplace with a big battery and have been operating for quite  
some time, enough for the battery to have gone down. You have another  
message to get through. In this situation, perhaps you should be  
running CW at a lower power, but still, the situation could be very  
real.

Having a battery booster could be very helpful, and perhaps one should  
be added to the ham's arsenal. On the other hand, running 100 watts on  
battery is probably not a good idea either. Having been in emergency  
situations where you do not know when operations will end, you do  
everything you can to conserver your resources. That means lowering  
the TX power as much as possible. Even still, Murphy says that at some  
point when the battery is running out, someone will hand you an  
emergency message to get through. How do you handle it? As I noted,  
I'd then lower the power and grab the CW key...

Jack Brindle, W6FB



On Jun 28, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Matthew Zilmer wrote:

> You might want to get a battery booster.  Here is one 
> http://stores.tgelectronics.org/Detail.bok?no=10 
> .
>
> I can recommend that one.  Had one for a couple years and use it to  
> boost to 14.5VDC from whatever voltage any time of day from a solar- 
> charged battery.  I think my K3 likes that 14.5V!
>
> Matt Zilmer
> Consultant - Product Management Dept.
> Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
> Tel: (909) 394-6052
> Cell: (909) 730-6552
> Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> ] On Behalf Of Peter Wollan
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:07 AM
> To: John Kountz
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3
>
> The problem here isn't the battery AH capacity, but the voltage  
> supply.  It could be dropping below 10 vdc because both radios are  
> on the same supply, or because the power supply wires are too fine  
> gauge, or because the battery is defective.
>
> The K3 is less robust to supply voltage than the other Elecraft  
> radios.  The K2 is rated for 10-15 volts;  the K1, KX1, and KX3 go  
> down a lot lower, I think 8 volts.  I looked at the K3 documents to  
> see what minimum voltage it requires, and I couldn't find it -- I  
> think it's something like 11, but it may be 11.5 or even 12.
>
> You'd probably do fine just by using a separate battery for each  
> radio, and not letting it run down too far.  A voltage booster isn't  
> needed, as lots of operators all over the world have demonstrated.
>
>  Peter W0LLN
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:19 PM, John Kountz  wrote:
>> ...  In tandom
>> operation, the Eagle was not affected by momentary voltage dips  
>> (below
>> 10
>> VDC) whereas the K3 would shut down.
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[Elecraft] Some pictures of a KX3 build

2012-06-28 Thread Bill Hammond
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ak5x/sets/72157630334268456/

I took some shots while putting this gem together.  So far, flawless 
performance (two QSO's) :)

73,
Bill
AK5X
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[Elecraft] KX3 and MARS operations?

2012-06-28 Thread David F. Reed
Is there a way to "open up" a KX3 for use on the MARS frequencies?

Thanks & 73 de Dave, W5SV / NNN0SLA
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Re: [Elecraft] [K2] Radio Owls' Field Day

2012-06-28 Thread Fred Jensen
On 6/28/2012 12:55 PM, Al Lorona wrote:

> 2/ Even though I hadn't used the K2 since last Field Day I never once thought,
> "Okay, I'm operating an Elecraft K2," in order to think about how to do
> something. Instead, I *never* adjusted a control other than the tuning knob;

My experience with all my E-gear as well.  My K3 is pretty much "Big 
Knob" only.  While running in a contest, I'll turn on RIT [sort of wish 
that was saved by band or was immune to band changes] to find off-freq 
callers, and I don't ever watch the radio, I watch the P3.  In QRPTTF 
out on a hill top, I hung my K2 around my neck, found a frequency, 
locked the VFO, and you can probably count the number of times I did 
something to the radio on the fingers of one hand, even if you're 
missing your thumb and a finger.

Despite the number of control actions, I rarely change things.  Now with 
4.51, NB and NR are just "always on."  For the record, I'm pretty much 
CW only, SSB mileage might vary, don't know.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org




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Re: [Elecraft] Where's The Propagation?

2012-06-28 Thread Fred Jensen
M-class flare earlier today.  http://www.n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 6/28/2012 1:07 PM, Dyarnes wrote:

> Well, I feel like the proverbial guy who is all dressed up and nowhere to
> go!  My KX3 is up and running, and the bands suck!

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Tony Estep
On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:47 PM, David Gilbert wrote:

>
> ...Your power source was clearly not up to the
> task, and apparently neither was your system engineering

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The original post makes it clear that their field day setup wasn't
adequate.  That's part of the purpose of field day: to illustrate how
a little thought, planning and testing before the event goes a long way.
 Well, there's always next year.

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[Elecraft] KX3 - Keying problem - First Dit Going AWOL

2012-06-28 Thread stan levandowski
Randomly, and always after a short period of "rest" (for example, while 
in QSO and listening to the other ham sending), the first 'dit' goes 
missing.

Does *not* occur in HAND mode; only occurs when using the KX3 internal 
keyer.

Happens at slow speeds as well as higher speeds (my typical range is 13 
wpm to 25 wpm).

Occurs with the KXPD3 as well as with external paddles (i.e. KEY1 and 
KEY2)

Once sending is resumed within the QSO, it *never* happens again -- 
until after the next "rest" period while the other guy is sending, but 
it does so *randomly*, never predictably.

Some QSOs proceed perfectly to the end; others get messed up.  In fact, 
it might work fine all night and make me think it's fixed itself.  Then 
it returns in a future session.

Shot the KXPD3 with De-Oxit again. No joy.

The externally connected paddles were four Begalis - rather improbable 
that all four + the KXPD3 have mechanical issues or dirty contacts.  In 
fact one of them, the HST, got a good soaking of De-Oxit just in case. 
Each Begali has its own cord and plug so rule out a common line issue.

My KX3 is #0325 and it was factory-built.  I'm running with the original 
firmware it was shipped with.

I have *not* moved to the new release as Wayne has suggested - yet - 
because I'd prefer to wait until the production release on Monday when 
the download process will be less work.

This problem is about a week old now. I wanted to gather as much info as 
I could on it.

Anyone else having similar problems or am I out front and all alone on 
this one?

73, Stan WB2LQF






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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Keying problem - First Dit Going AWOL

2012-06-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
Stan,

This could be a case of the ATU jumping in to do a re-tune when you  
transmit 10-30 kHz away from the last transmit frequency. But we fixed  
this problem in recent firmware revisions. What rev are you running?

tnx
Wayne
N6KR

On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:42 PM, stan levandowski wrote:

> Randomly, and always after a short period of "rest" (for example,  
> while
> in QSO and listening to the other ham sending), the first 'dit' goes
> missing.
>
> Does *not* occur in HAND mode; only occurs when using the KX3 internal
> keyer.
>
> Happens at slow speeds as well as higher speeds (my typical range is  
> 13
> wpm to 25 wpm).
>
> Occurs with the KXPD3 as well as with external paddles (i.e. KEY1 and
> KEY2)
>
> Once sending is resumed within the QSO, it *never* happens again --
> until after the next "rest" period while the other guy is sending, but
> it does so *randomly*, never predictably.
>
> Some QSOs proceed perfectly to the end; others get messed up.  In  
> fact,
> it might work fine all night and make me think it's fixed itself.   
> Then
> it returns in a future session.
>
> Shot the KXPD3 with De-Oxit again. No joy.
>
> The externally connected paddles were four Begalis - rather improbable
> that all four + the KXPD3 have mechanical issues or dirty contacts.   
> In
> fact one of them, the HST, got a good soaking of De-Oxit just in case.
> Each Begali has its own cord and plug so rule out a common line issue.
>
> My KX3 is #0325 and it was factory-built.  I'm running with the  
> original
> firmware it was shipped with.
>
> I have *not* moved to the new release as Wayne has suggested - yet -
> because I'd prefer to wait until the production release on Monday when
> the download process will be less work.
>
> This problem is about a week old now. I wanted to gather as much  
> info as
> I could on it.
>
> Anyone else having similar problems or am I out front and all alone on
> this one?
>
> 73, Stan WB2LQF
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] "random wire" and the KX3 ATU

2012-06-28 Thread Michael Babineau
In fact what you can do is just make the first 17 feet of the antenna 
(including counterpoise) out of ladder line or even twin lead so that
it is a zepp fed W3EDP. This is what I use as my low-band antenna at home and 
my backup antenna at the cottage. Through a 4:1 
balun I am able to get a good match on 160m through 10m with the internal tuner 
in my K2 and my LDG auto-tuner. 
It works .. I even made a few 160m QSOs with it running 5W on CW during field 
day.  I find that it is easiest to erect as an inverted-L.

Michael VE3WMB 



>From: Don Wilhelm 
>Date: June 27, 2012 8:07:22 PM EDT
>To: Gary Marklund 
>Cc: Scott Graham , "" 
>
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] "random wire" and the KX3 ATU
>Reply-To: d...@w3fpr.com


>Gary and all,

>That length is close to the W3EDP antenna length - as I recall, it is 86 feet 
>for the radiator and 17 feet for the counterpoise wire. 80 through 10 meters 
>is good, and the KX3 tuner will match it easily.

>73,
>Don W3FPR
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Keying problem - First Dit Going AWOL

2012-06-28 Thread stan levandowski
Wayne, I'm using what the KX3 was shipped with - MCU 0.99 / DSP 0.85, 
5/7/2012

I will download and install the upcoming production release on Monday 
because I want to avoid all that computer work to download the Beta 
version.

But you bring up an interesting thing - all of these lost dits have been 
occuring at my home station where my KX3 is connected through an 
Elecraft W2 to an SG-237 autocoupler which manages my all-band doublet 
at the feedpoint.  I just press and hold XMIT to TUNE my autocoupler.  I 
don't *ever* press ATU TUNE at home because that can damage the 
autocoupler.

I don't see any menu entry to disable the internal KX3 ATU (as with my 
K2 for example).  Page 14 of the manual states that TUNE is used for 
external wattmeters and antenna tuners.  I've been under the assumption 
that the ATU is out of the mix unless I press it.

It sounds like you're saying it might be jumping in on its own to tune 
without any action on my part?

If that's true then my ATU is tuning my autocoupler.
Stan WB2LQF




On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Stan,
>
> This could be a case of the ATU jumping in to do a re-tune when you 
> transmit 10-30 kHz away from the last transmit frequency. But we fixed 
> this problem in recent firmware revisions. What rev are you running?
>
> tnx
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:42 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
>
>> Randomly, and always after a short period of "rest" (for example, 
>> while
>> in QSO and listening to the other ham sending), the first 'dit' goes
>> missing.
>>
>> Does *not* occur in HAND mode; only occurs when using the KX3 
>> internal
>> keyer.
>>
>> Happens at slow speeds as well as higher speeds (my typical range is 
>> 13
>> wpm to 25 wpm).
>>
>> Occurs with the KXPD3 as well as with external paddles (i.e. KEY1 and
>> KEY2)
>>
>> Once sending is resumed within the QSO, it *never* happens again --
>> until after the next "rest" period while the other guy is sending, 
>> but
>> it does so *randomly*, never predictably.
>>
>> Some QSOs proceed perfectly to the end; others get messed up.  In 
>> fact,
>> it might work fine all night and make me think it's fixed itself. 
>> Then
>> it returns in a future session.
>>
>> Shot the KXPD3 with De-Oxit again. No joy.
>>
>> The externally connected paddles were four Begalis - rather 
>> improbable
>> that all four + the KXPD3 have mechanical issues or dirty contacts. 
>> In
>> fact one of them, the HST, got a good soaking of De-Oxit just in 
>> case.
>> Each Begali has its own cord and plug so rule out a common line 
>> issue.
>>
>> My KX3 is #0325 and it was factory-built.  I'm running with the 
>> original
>> firmware it was shipped with.
>>
>> I have *not* moved to the new release as Wayne has suggested - yet -
>> because I'd prefer to wait until the production release on Monday 
>> when
>> the download process will be less work.
>>
>> This problem is about a week old now. I wanted to gather as much 
>> info as
>> I could on it.
>>
>> Anyone else having similar problems or am I out front and all alone 
>> on
>> this one?
>>
>> 73, Stan WB2LQF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Keying problem - First Dit Going AWOL

2012-06-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
stan levandowski wrote:

> But you bring up an interesting thing - all of these lost dits have  
> been occuring at my home station where my KX3 is connected through  
> an Elecraft W2 to an SG-237 autocoupler which manages my all-band  
> doublet at the feedpoint.  I just press and hold XMIT to TUNE my  
> autocoupler.  I don't *ever* press ATU TUNE at home because that can  
> damage the autocoupler.
>
> I don't see any menu entry to disable the internal KX3 ATU (as with  
> my K2 for example).

MENU:ATU MD (ATU mode). Set to BYPASS. The ATU icon will turn off.


>  Page 14 of the manual states that TUNE is used for external  
> wattmeters and antenna tuners.  I've been under the assumption that  
> the ATU is out of the mix unless I press it.

If you have a KXAT3, it will auto-tune if it's in AUTO mode and you  
tap ATU TUNE.


> It sounds like you're saying it might be jumping in on its own to  
> tune without any action on my part?

If it's in AUTO mode, then whenever you transmit, it will retrieve LC  
network information from the closest previously-tuned band segment. If  
you go into BYP mode it won't do this.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


>
> If that's true then my ATU is tuning my autocoupler.
> Stan WB2LQF
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>
>> Stan,
>>
>> This could be a case of the ATU jumping in to do a re-tune when you  
>> transmit 10-30 kHz away from the last transmit frequency. But we  
>> fixed this problem in recent firmware revisions. What rev are you  
>> running?
>>
>> tnx
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2012, at 6:42 PM, stan levandowski wrote:
>>
>>> Randomly, and always after a short period of "rest" (for example,  
>>> while
>>> in QSO and listening to the other ham sending), the first 'dit' goes
>>> missing.
>>>
>>> Does *not* occur in HAND mode; only occurs when using the KX3  
>>> internal
>>> keyer.
>>>
>>> Happens at slow speeds as well as higher speeds (my typical range  
>>> is 13
>>> wpm to 25 wpm).
>>>
>>> Occurs with the KXPD3 as well as with external paddles (i.e. KEY1  
>>> and
>>> KEY2)
>>>
>>> Once sending is resumed within the QSO, it *never* happens again --
>>> until after the next "rest" period while the other guy is sending,  
>>> but
>>> it does so *randomly*, never predictably.
>>>
>>> Some QSOs proceed perfectly to the end; others get messed up.  In  
>>> fact,
>>> it might work fine all night and make me think it's fixed itself.  
>>> Then
>>> it returns in a future session.
>>>
>>> Shot the KXPD3 with De-Oxit again. No joy.
>>>
>>> The externally connected paddles were four Begalis - rather  
>>> improbable
>>> that all four + the KXPD3 have mechanical issues or dirty  
>>> contacts. In
>>> fact one of them, the HST, got a good soaking of De-Oxit just in  
>>> case.
>>> Each Begali has its own cord and plug so rule out a common line  
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> My KX3 is #0325 and it was factory-built.  I'm running with the  
>>> original
>>> firmware it was shipped with.
>>>
>>> I have *not* moved to the new release as Wayne has suggested - yet -
>>> because I'd prefer to wait until the production release on Monday  
>>> when
>>> the download process will be less work.
>>>
>>> This problem is about a week old now. I wanted to gather as much  
>>> info as
>>> I could on it.
>>>
>>> Anyone else having similar problems or am I out front and all  
>>> alone on
>>> this one?
>>>
>>> 73, Stan WB2LQF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 - Keying problem - First Dit Going AWOL

2012-06-28 Thread stan levandowski
Wayne, I found the ATU menu "byP" entry - my apologies.  I could not 
find it in the manual and assumed there was no bypass option because the 
switch arrangement on the front panel seemed to preclude the necessity 
of a bypass option; I should have run through the menu.  I also should 
know by now that Elecraft leaves no stone unturned!  I will try really 
hard to avoid making anymore dumb ASSumptions.Now that the ATU is 
bypassed, I'll start testing all over again and see how I fare.  73, 
Stan WB2LQF
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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread David Gilbert


A battery booster doesn't do much good very long if you're drawing more 
current from the battery than your solar cell is putting into it like 
WO1S was.  A dead battery just gets deader quicker.

Dave   AB7E


On 6/28/2012 2:54 PM, Matthew Zilmer wrote:
> You might want to get a battery booster.  Here is one 
> http://stores.tgelectronics.org/Detail.bok?no=10.
>
> I can recommend that one.  Had one for a couple years and use it to boost to 
> 14.5VDC from whatever voltage any time of day from a solar-charged battery.  
> I think my K3 likes that 14.5V!
>
> Matt Zilmer
> Consultant - Product Management Dept.
> Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
> Tel: (909) 394-6052
> Cell: (909) 730-6552
> Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Field Day experience with K3

2012-06-28 Thread Don Wilhelm
Or if the connections to the battery are not tight - and that is what I 
suspect based on the symptoms..

If the voltage was dropping below 11 volts, it would indicate either a 
high resistance connection to the battery or a defective battery.

The Ten-Tec may have kept on operating, but that is not necessarily a 
benefit if it created a high IMD situation.

100 watts on a battery supply will not last forever - our FD solar 
charged battery operation lasted only 1 hour at the 100 watt level.

73,
Don W3FPR.
On 6/29/2012 12:06 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>
> A battery booster doesn't do much good very long if you're drawing more
> current from the battery than your solar cell is putting into it like
> WO1S was.  A dead battery just gets deader quicker.
>
> Dave   AB7E
>
>
> On 6/28/2012 2:54 PM, Matthew Zilmer wrote:
>> You might want to get a battery booster.  Here is one 
>> http://stores.tgelectronics.org/Detail.bok?no=10.
>>
>> I can recommend that one.  Had one for a couple years and use it to boost to 
>> 14.5VDC from whatever voltage any time of day from a solar-charged battery.  
>> I think my K3 likes that 14.5V!
>>
>> Matt Zilmer
>> Consultant - Product Management Dept.
>> Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
>> Tel: (909) 394-6052
>> Cell: (909) 730-6552
>> Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere
>>
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