[Elecraft] KX3: use at 500-KHz

2012-07-07 Thread Edward R. Cole
I just tried reception on the am BC band and 500-KHz but the receiver 
seems deaf there.  There was mention of using the suto-tuner to 
improve reception below the BC band, but how is this 
accomplished?  Or is this waiting for firmware to implement?  How 
about Tx capability down there?


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[Elecraft] KX3: use at MF and 500-KHz

2012-07-07 Thread Johnny Siu
Hello Edward,
 
I observe the same for MF broadcast band here.  I can get big signal for local 
783KHz AM BC station in my K3 but not KX3.

TNX  73,


Johnny VR2XMC



 寄件人︰ Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net
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傳送日期︰ 2012年07月7日 (週六) 4:33 PM
主題︰ [Elecraft] KX3: use at 500-KHz
  
I just tried reception on the am BC band and 500-KHz but the receiver 
seems deaf there.  There was mention of using the suto-tuner to 
improve reception below the BC band, but how is this 
accomplished?  Or is this waiting for firmware to implement?  How 
about Tx capability down there?


73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-?
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Re: [Elecraft] Using KX3 with MFJ-1899T

2012-07-07 Thread Ronald Nutter
I have ordered a MFJ-1899T and had similar concerns about the potential 
weight on the connector.  I went with a MFJ-332B mag base with BNC 
connector.  When traveling on business, I will usually have a rental 
car.  This will let me use the car as a base for the antenna.  I was 
trying to find a compact solutions as possible to take with me.

May eventually try the single band antennas, I have only found the MFJ 
versions. Seems the Maldol ones arent made anymore.

Ron
KA4KYI

On 7/5/12 8:14 PM, Johnny Siu wrote:
 Thanks Don, perhaps, I may be too greedy to go for a multiband 1899t


 TNX  73,


 Johnny VR2XMC

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 收件人︰ Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk; k...@yahoogroups.com
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 傳送日期︰ 2012年07月6日 (週五) 8:55 AM
 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] Using KX3 with MFJ-1899T

 Hi Johnny,

 I use the MFJ telescoping whips with my KX1 and KX3, but I opted for the 
 single band antennas (17m, 20m, 40) rather than the multiband 1899t, which is 
 much larger and heavier... I don't like mounting the whips directly to the 
 radio with a right angle adapter . not sure if the antenna is holding the 
 radio or vice versa, but the weight does seem to put a significant load on 
 the rig's bnc connector. so I made a little bnc base out of scrap aluminum, 
 and use it portable when it's not convenient or practical to string up a 
 random wire. the setup works, but not as well as random wires, so it's a 
 backup system at best.  I have a few photos of the aluminum bnc base posted 
 here which will give you an idea of what I'm talking about:

 http://www.udxa.org/gallery/show_thumbs.php?id=29



 73, Don, N5LZ



 - Original Message - From: Johnny Siu vr2...@yahoo.com.hk
 To: k...@yahoogroups.com
 Cc: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:37 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Using KX3 with MFJ-1899T


 Hello Elecrafters,

 I tried to use this portable telescopic antenna with the right angle BNC 
 adapter. However, the whip is quite heavy and cannot stand on its own without 
 falling. I trust this has been discussed before. Any solutions on the set up 
 this portable whip?
 Meanwhile, I finished building the KX3 kit and faced some problems in the TX 
 gain caliration. The calibration began at 1.9Mhz but stopped at 5.3Mhz with 
 an error message of high SWR in the ANT. However, I am using a dummy load for 
 the calibration. The same dummy load was used in the calibration of K3 in the 
 past. What is the likely problem for my KX3? The KX3 was powered by a 12v 
 7Ahr lead acid battery

 TNX  73,


 Johnny VR2XMC
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[Elecraft] Am I missing something?

2012-07-07 Thread Paul VanOveren
I saw a couple of references here on the reflector about the 4.51 Beta firmware 
now being a production release. I do not see it on the Elecraft website under 
firmware category and I checked in the K3 Utility  1.12.3.28 ver.Mine reads

  MCU  Installed  4.48available 
4.39
  FPF   1.15
 1.14
  DSP 1   2.73  
   2.73
  DSP 2   2.73  
   2.73
  DVR 1.03

If I check versions available, it does not change. The K3 is communicating 
properly at 38,400 bps, running thru the P3.

Anyone else see this. ???

NF8J  Paul 

  
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Re: [Elecraft] Am I missing something?

2012-07-07 Thread David Moes
Just looked  on the site and 4.51 is there and  the K3 utility shows it 
as available as well.When you land on the web page try refresh you 
may be seeing a cached version of the page.


On 7/7/2012 8:01 AM, Paul VanOveren wrote:
   I do not see it on the Elecraft website under firmware category and I 
 checked in the K3 Utility  1.12.3.28 ver.Mine reads

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[Elecraft] ERR12V repair

2012-07-07 Thread Mike Clarke
Hi,

I'm just preparing to perform the ERR12V repair on my K3, and
notice that in the bag I was sent the pin connectors are
gold-plated but the replacement sockets are not.  I thought the
idea of the change to was make the path gold to gold all the way
through... can anyone confirm if this is correct?

Thanks and 73,

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Re: [Elecraft] Am I missing something?

2012-07-07 Thread David Pratt
4.51 is definitely there, Paul.  Make sure your K3 Utility is pointing 
to the right directory.  ftp://elecraft.com/K3/firmware/

73

David G4DMP

In a recent message, Paul VanOveren p...@nf8j.com writes
I saw a couple of references here on the reflector about the 4.51 Beta 
firmware now being a production release. I do not see it on the 
Elecraft website under firmware category and I checked in the K3 
Utility  1.12.3.28 ver.Mine reads

  MCU  Installed  4.48 
available 4.39
  FPF 1.15 1.14
  DSP 1 2.73 2.73
  DSP 2 2.73 2.73
  DVR 1.03

If I check versions available, it does not change. The K3 is 
communicating properly at 38,400 bps, running thru the P3.

Anyone else see this. ???

NF8J  Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR12V repair

2012-07-07 Thread Bill W4ZV

Mike Clarke-5 wrote
 
 I'm just preparing to perform the ERR12V repair on my K3, and
 notice that in the bag I was sent the pin connectors are
 gold-plated but the replacement sockets are not.  I thought the
 idea of the change to was make the path gold to gold all the way
 through... can anyone confirm if this is correct?
 

See Eric's response:  

http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg132150.html

Has anyone ever seen any documentation of approximate Serial Numbers or
dates of manufacture that this mod applies to?  

73,  Bill  W4ZV




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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

2012-07-07 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Barry,

I had the same thing here a few weeks ago. I found that I had no output 
from my LPA board. It is now at Elecraft being serviced but I have yet 
to hear the final resolution. It has only been in service for a week or so.

I used a scope and did some signal tracing and found that I had RF on 
the input of the LPA board and a logical HI on the 7T line. But I had no 
output from the LPA itself. I worked with support and we determined that 
something was probably wrong with the board itself. I removed it and 
sent it in.

I found this doing the same thing - tuning up and only had two dashes on 
my display.

Hope this helps.

73,
Dave W8FGU


On 7/7/2012 1:53 AM, Barry Garratt wrote:
 When I hit the ATU TUNE button this evening the tuner sounded like it was
 doing something but instead of the usual display of VSWR as it tuned there
 were only two dash lines.

 The problem is not band dependent.

 Anyone ever seen this before and if so what was the cure?

 Thanks.

 Barry KS7DX



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

2012-07-07 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
BTW - some of the obvious things to check first would be to insure you 
aren't in test mode or that the TX INH pin is not set or floating (check 
in the Config menu).

73,
Dave W8FGU


On 7/7/2012 9:01 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:
 Barry,

 I had the same thing here a few weeks ago. I found that I had no output
 from my LPA board. It is now at Elecraft being serviced but I have yet
 to hear the final resolution. It has only been in service for a week or so.

 I used a scope and did some signal tracing and found that I had RF on
 the input of the LPA board and a logical HI on the 7T line. But I had no
 output from the LPA itself. I worked with support and we determined that
 something was probably wrong with the board itself. I removed it and
 sent it in.

 I found this doing the same thing - tuning up and only had two dashes on
 my display.

 Hope this helps.

 73,
 Dave W8FGU


 On 7/7/2012 1:53 AM, Barry Garratt wrote:
 When I hit the ATU TUNE button this evening the tuner sounded like it was
 doing something but instead of the usual display of VSWR as it tuned there
 were only two dash lines.

 The problem is not band dependent.

 Anyone ever seen this before and if so what was the cure?

 Thanks.

 Barry KS7DX



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[Elecraft] KX3 Receive Performance Below 1500 kHz

2012-07-07 Thread Mike Morrow
A discussion of KX3 MF lack of sensitivity recently took place
on the KX3 list.  The KX3 should not be considered really
usable below about 1500 kHz, as Wayne explsined:

 Original Message (from KX3 list)

 I thought there was some advantage to AM BCB reception
 to be had with the KXAT3.

If a KXAT3 is installed, harmonic images are attenuated,
but this has little effect on signal strength.
 
 Why wouldn't the T/R PIN diodes be as well protected by
 high pass filtering that rolled off below 400 kHz rather
 than 1500 kHz

The carrier lifetime of the diodes is roughly 1.5 microseconds.
This means that strong signals at the low end of the broadcast band could cause 
IMD (IP2) if not attenuated. The HPF provides
about  20-30 dB of rolloff by this frequency, ensuring that
this isn't a problem. The KX3 is optimized for ham-band use
so this is entirely appropriate. 

Wayne

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[Elecraft] XV50 Kit Has Been Sold

2012-07-07 Thread Jim KO5V
Thanks!

73, Jim KO5V
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Re: [Elecraft] Am I missing something?

2012-07-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2012 07 Jul 07:07 -0500, Paul VanOveren wrote:
 Anyone else see this. ???

Are you using the Linux version of the utility?  I ask because it would
not download the updated file listings correctly.  I worked with David
W4SMT and he did resolve the issue, but I'm not sure if the fixed
version is generally available.

73, de Nate, N0NB 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Receive Performance Below 1500 kHz

2012-07-07 Thread Wayne Burdick
Mike,

My explanation stands, but not really usable isn't a fair  
assessment. I frequently use the KX3 in the BC band. I can clearly  
copy all the same stations with the KX3 that I can hear using other AM- 
capable radios at my QTH.

The KX3's receive sensitivity does fall off by design below about 1.5  
MHz (as described below), but in many cases you don't need a lot of  
sensitivity here due to high atmospheric noise. The exception, of  
course, is if you're a serious BC-band SWL. In that case you might  
want to consider a simple broadcast-band receiving converter using an  
IF of say 7 MHz. The KX3 provides up to 9 built-in transverter bands,  
one of which could be programmed for this purpose so the VFO would  
still display the actual target frequencies.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jul 7, 2012, at 6:15 AM, Mike Morrow wrote:

 A discussion of KX3 MF lack of sensitivity recently took place
 on the KX3 list.  The KX3 should not be considered really
 usable below about 1500 kHz, as Wayne explsined:

  Original Message (from KX3 list)

 I thought there was some advantage to AM BCB reception
 to be had with the KXAT3.

 If a KXAT3 is installed, harmonic images are attenuated,
 but this has little effect on signal strength.

 Why wouldn't the T/R PIN diodes be as well protected by
 high pass filtering that rolled off below 400 kHz rather
 than 1500 kHz

 The carrier lifetime of the diodes is roughly 1.5 microseconds.
 This means that strong signals at the low end of the broadcast band  
 could cause IMD (IP2) if not attenuated. The HPF provides
 about  20-30 dB of rolloff by this frequency, ensuring that
 this isn't a problem. The KX3 is optimized for ham-band use
 so this is entirely appropriate.

 Wayne

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Re: [Elecraft] Am I missing something?

2012-07-07 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Try copy new files from Elecraft

Dick, K6KR

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 7, 2012, at 5:01 AM, Paul VanOveren p...@nf8j.com wrote:

 I saw a couple of references here on the reflector about the 4.51 Beta 
 firmware now being a production release. I do not see it on the Elecraft 
 website under firmware category and I checked in the K3 Utility  1.12.3.28 
 ver.Mine reads
 
  MCU  Installed  4.48
 available 4.39
  FPF   1.15   
   1.14
  DSP 1   2.73 
 2.73
  DSP 2   2.73 
 2.73
  DVR 1.03
 
If I check versions available, it does not change. The K3 is communicating 
 properly at 38,400 bps, running thru the P3.
 
 Anyone else see this. ???
 
 NF8J  Paul 
 
 
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[Elecraft] Fwd: Am I missing something?

2012-07-07 Thread Dick Dievendorff

 There is no mechanism in the K3 Utility to change the FTP source URL. Copy 
 new files from Elecraft always goes there. 
 
 But your local Wininet cache may be stale. Use Internet Explorer (not another 
 browser that may not use Wininet) to navigate to that URL and refresh the 
 page.
 Alternatively use the Control Panel Internet applet to delete temporary 
 Internet files. 
 
 73 de Dick, K6KR
 
 On Jul 7, 2012, at 5:19 AM, David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk wrote:
 
 4.51 is definitely there, Paul.  Make sure your K3 Utility is pointing 
 to the right directory.  ftp://elecraft.com/K3/firmware/
 
 73
 
 David G4DMP
 
 In a recent message, Paul VanOveren p...@nf8j.com writes
 I saw a couple of references here on the reflector about the 4.51 Beta 
 firmware now being a production release. I do not see it on the 
 Elecraft website under firmware category and I checked in the K3 
 Utility  1.12.3.28 ver.Mine reads
 
MCU  Installed  4.48 
 available 4.39
FPF 1.15 1.14
DSP 1 2.73 2.73
DSP 2 2.73 2.73
DVR 1.03
 
  If I check versions available, it does not change. The K3 is 
 communicating properly at 38,400 bps, running thru the P3.
 
 Anyone else see this. ???
 
 NF8J  Paul
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR12V repair

2012-07-07 Thread Jed Petrovich
Hello all:

I had this error during Field Day, so I'm very interested in modifying my 
K3/100 #2826. However, I'm not seeing this kit listed as one of the mods. 
Wondering how to obtain it. Suggestions?

73,

Jed
AD7KG

On Jul 7, 2012, at 6:46, Bill W4ZV btipp...@alum.mit.edu wrote:

 
 Mike Clarke-5 wrote
 
 I'm just preparing to perform the ERR12V repair on my K3, and
 notice that in the bag I was sent the pin connectors are
 gold-plated but the replacement sockets are not.  I thought the
 idea of the change to was make the path gold to gold all the way
 through... can anyone confirm if this is correct?
 
 
 See Eric's response:  
 
 http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg132150.html
 
 Has anyone ever seen any documentation of approximate Serial Numbers or
 dates of manufacture that this mod applies to?  
 
 73,  Bill  W4ZV
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Am I missing something?

2012-07-07 Thread Rick Johnson

Should I glean from this statement:
Use Internet Explorer (not another browser that may not use Wininet)
that IE is the recommended browser to use when updating K3 F/W?

73,
Rick W3BI
 From: die...@comcast.net
 Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 07:14:23 -0700
 To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; p...@nf8j.com
 Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd:  Am I missing something?
 
 
  There is no mechanism in the K3 Utility to change the FTP source URL. Copy 
  new files from Elecraft always goes there. 
  
  But your local Wininet cache may be stale. Use Internet Explorer (not 
  another browser that may not use Wininet) to navigate to that URL and 
  refresh the page.
  Alternatively use the Control Panel Internet applet to delete temporary 
  Internet files. 
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Re: [Elecraft] ERR12V repair

2012-07-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

 Has anyone ever seen any documentation of approximate Serial
 Numbers or dates of manufacture that this mod applies to?

It applies at least below s/n 1500 since both my K3s (s/n 622
and 1450) had the tin plate pins on both the KPA-3 and RF board.
1450 has been back to the factory, 622 is waiting for me to get
around to it.

73,

... Joe, W4TV



On 7/7/2012 8:46 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote:

 Mike Clarke-5 wrote

 I'm just preparing to perform the ERR12V repair on my K3, and
 notice that in the bag I was sent the pin connectors are
 gold-plated but the replacement sockets are not.  I thought the
 idea of the change to was make the path gold to gold all the way
 through... can anyone confirm if this is correct?


 See Eric's response:

 http://www.mail-archive.com/elecraft@mailman.qth.net/msg132150.html

 Has anyone ever seen any documentation of approximate Serial Numbers or
 dates of manufacture that this mod applies to?

 73,  Bill  W4ZV




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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Am I missing something?

2012-07-07 Thread Paul VanOveren
Dick, et al:

   Tnx for the info, COPYING NEW FILES did the job, now running   4.51 , 
1.15, 2.76(1) and 2.76(2),   and will refresh the Elecraft Web site...much 
appreciated. This reflector is amazing for getting answers to questions. 
Love my  K3, KPA500, P3 and W2.

Paul

-Original Message- 
From: Dick Dievendorff
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 10:14 AM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net ; Paul VanOveren
Subject: Fwd: [Elecraft] Am I missing something?


 There is no mechanism in the K3 Utility to change the FTP source URL. Copy 
 new files from Elecraft always goes there.

 But your local Wininet cache may be stale. Use Internet Explorer (not 
 another browser that may not use Wininet) to navigate to that URL and 
 refresh the page.
 Alternatively use the Control Panel Internet applet to delete temporary 
 Internet files.

 73 de Dick, K6KR

 On Jul 7, 2012, at 5:19 AM, David Pratt da...@g4dmp.fsnet.co.uk wrote:

 4.51 is definitely there, Paul.  Make sure your K3 Utility is pointing
 to the right directory.  ftp://elecraft.com/K3/firmware/

 73

 David G4DMP

 In a recent message, Paul VanOveren p...@nf8j.com writes
 I saw a couple of references here on the reflector about the 4.51 Beta
 firmware now being a production release. I do not see it on the
 Elecraft website under firmware category and I checked in the K3
 Utility  1.12.3.28 ver.Mine reads

MCU  Installed  4.48
 available 4.39
FPF 1.15 1.14
DSP 1 2.73 2.73
DSP 2 2.73 2.73
DVR 1.03

  If I check versions available, it does not change. The K3 is
 communicating properly at 38,400 bps, running thru the P3.

 Anyone else see this. ???

 NF8J  Paul 

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - RTTY, PSK31 CW on P3 display

2012-07-07 Thread W5RDW
Good news! Thanks Paul for the update!

73

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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: Am I missing something?

2012-07-07 Thread Dick Dievendorff
No, the recommendation is to use the K3 Utility for production firmware, no 
browser is normally required. If you're accessing beta firmware, any browser or 
FTP client is fine.

Microsoft provides FTP client functionality, incorporated in WININET.dll, that 
both the K3 Uility and Internet Explorer use. I don't know what other browsers 
use. I have nothing against other browsers, I use them myself.

The Wininet core is available on every Windows system, part of the Windows 
programming interface commonly used, which makes it the preferable FTP client 
library.

If the Wininet cache is stale (older views of the data are cached locally) the 
stale data needs to be discarded so that it is fetched again from Elecraft,s 
FTP server.  One way is to discard the entire cache with the Control Panel 
Internet applet. Another way is to use IE to browse to the FTP site and refresh 
that one page.

But I think Paul's issue was a need to select the Copy New Files From Elecraft 
button on the K3 Utility Firmware page.

73 de Dick, K6KR

On Jul 7, 2012, at 7:23 AM, Rick Johnson w3bi.r...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Should I glean from this statement:
 Use Internet Explorer (not another browser that may not use Wininet)
 that IE is the recommended browser to use when updating K3 F/W?
 
 73,
 Rick W3BI
  From: die...@comcast.net
  Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2012 07:14:23 -0700
  To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; p...@nf8j.com
  Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: Am I missing something?
  
  
   There is no mechanism in the K3 Utility to change the FTP source URL. 
   Copy new files from Elecraft always goes there. 
   
   But your local Wininet cache may be stale. Use Internet Explorer (not 
   another browser that may not use Wininet) to navigate to that URL and 
   refresh the page.
   Alternatively use the Control Panel Internet applet to delete temporary 
   Internet files. 
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Re: [Elecraft] Stuck in MCU LD

2012-07-07 Thread K2GN
Problem solved!
But, after trying everything written about Firmware updating, plus trying
suggestions by Iain, N6Ml and Don, W3FPR, worked until this morning.
My testing included disconnecting, things from the K3, changing USB/Com
cables and various lengths of no power periods from seconds in length to 2
hours.
I went to bed. This morning I tried doing the upgrade in the last
configuration I had last night, It worked perfectly. 
So I moved to my other K3.
Now I started this update in the configuration that I start all my upgrades,
including the one that failed.  
IT RAN FLAWLESSLY FIRST TIME!!!
Who can figure!!
Thank you for the helpful messages from all, both on and off the reflector.
Larry/K2GN - http://k2gn.com
K3's S/N - 3278 and 4086
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of K2GN
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 4:46 PM
To: Elecraft 
Subject: [Elecraft] Stuck in MCU LD

I was doing a firmware update and something happened to interrupt it.
I have tried all the documented reset methods.
And nothing works.
changed USB cable and ports.
Using the newest Util release.
Nothing.  Just can’t communicate to the radio

Any hints?

Larry/K2GN - http://k2gn.com


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Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 - low power 15m only

2012-07-07 Thread aj4tf
OK, here is what I can see so far... 

I visually examined the low pass filter components on the KPA100,  between
K9 and K10, nothing seems out of the ordinary, nothing cracked, broken, or
burned that I can see.

I'm not quite ready to remove the PCA and the power transistors from the
heatsink yet.

Measurements:  no change.   50 Ohm load,  tune mode.  Power output on 15m
tracks linearly with the power control,  up to about 50W, and then it peaks,
even if the knob is turned up further.   The DC current draw is about normal
for 50W,  around 10A,  similar to the other bands.  The current never goes
any higher as the power control is turned up.

On the other bands, power goes up to full as the power control is turned up.

Any other suggestions before I disassemble it any further? 

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

2012-07-07 Thread Barry Garratt
Hi Dave,

Thanks for the info. It looks like mine will be heading back to the factory
also.

Have a great day.

Barry KS7DX

From: Dave Van Wallaghen [mailto:dvanwallag...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 5:36 AM
To: Barry Garratt
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

Barry, 
I just went through the same thing here. It turned out to that I had no
output from my LPA board. It is currently at Elecraft being serviced. I have
not heard from them yet as to the exact cause. It's only been in for a week
or so. 
I used a scope to verify I had RF coming into the board and a logical high
on the 7T line but no output. 
I found this trying to tune up as you did and saw the same two dashes on the
display. 
Hope this helps. 
73, 
Dave W8FGU 
On Jul 7, 2012 1:54 AM, Barry Garratt bgarr...@earthlink.net wrote:
When I hit the ATU TUNE button this evening the tuner sounded like it was
doing something but instead of the usual display of VSWR as it tuned there
were only two dash lines.

The problem is not band dependent.

Anyone ever seen this before and if so what was the cure?

Thanks.

Barry KS7DX



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

2012-07-07 Thread Barry Garratt
No not in test mode and TX INH is off Dave.

Barry KS7DX

-Original Message-
From: Dave Van Wallaghen [mailto:w8...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 6:11 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

BTW - some of the obvious things to check first would be to insure you
aren't in test mode or that the TX INH pin is not set or floating (check in
the Config menu).

73,
Dave W8FGU


On 7/7/2012 9:01 AM, Dave Van Wallaghen wrote:
 Barry,

 I had the same thing here a few weeks ago. I found that I had no 
 output from my LPA board. It is now at Elecraft being serviced but I 
 have yet to hear the final resolution. It has only been in service for a
week or so.

 I used a scope and did some signal tracing and found that I had RF on 
 the input of the LPA board and a logical HI on the 7T line. But I had 
 no output from the LPA itself. I worked with support and we determined 
 that something was probably wrong with the board itself. I removed it 
 and sent it in.

 I found this doing the same thing - tuning up and only had two dashes 
 on my display.

 Hope this helps.

 73,
 Dave W8FGU


 On 7/7/2012 1:53 AM, Barry Garratt wrote:
 When I hit the ATU TUNE button this evening the tuner sounded like it 
 was doing something but instead of the usual display of VSWR as it 
 tuned there were only two dash lines.

 The problem is not band dependent.

 Anyone ever seen this before and if so what was the cure?

 Thanks.

 Barry KS7DX



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

2012-07-07 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
Hey Barry,

If you are so inclined, you might try re-seating the LPA board. I did 
read a couple of instances where that cleared up the problem. Although, 
it did not clear mine up :-(

Either way, it you wouldn't mind, please post back your findings. I'd be 
interested to see if it was the LPA or not.

Take care  73,
Dave W8FGU



On 7/7/2012 12:02 PM, Barry Garratt wrote:
 Hi Dave,

 Thanks for the info. It looks like mine will be heading back to the factory
 also.

 Have a great day.

 Barry KS7DX

 From: Dave Van Wallaghen [mailto:dvanwallag...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 5:36 AM
 To: Barry Garratt
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

 Barry,
 I just went through the same thing here. It turned out to that I had no
 output from my LPA board. It is currently at Elecraft being serviced. I have
 not heard from them yet as to the exact cause. It's only been in for a week
 or so.
 I used a scope to verify I had RF coming into the board and a logical high
 on the 7T line but no output.
 I found this trying to tune up as you did and saw the same two dashes on the
 display.
 Hope this helps.
 73,
 Dave W8FGU
 On Jul 7, 2012 1:54 AM, Barry Garratt bgarr...@earthlink.net wrote:
 When I hit the ATU TUNE button this evening the tuner sounded like it was
 doing something but instead of the usual display of VSWR as it tuned there
 were only two dash lines.

 The problem is not band dependent.

 Anyone ever seen this before and if so what was the cure?

 Thanks.

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

2012-07-07 Thread Barry Garratt
Hey Dave,

I'll try that and report back but I'm getting the feeling it's going to back
to the factory.

Regards,

Barry KS7DX


-Original Message-
From: Dave Van Wallaghen [mailto:w8...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 9:15 AM
To: Barry Garratt
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

Hey Barry,

If you are so inclined, you might try re-seating the LPA board. I did read a
couple of instances where that cleared up the problem. Although, it did not
clear mine up :-(

Either way, it you wouldn't mind, please post back your findings. I'd be
interested to see if it was the LPA or not.

Take care  73,
Dave W8FGU



On 7/7/2012 12:02 PM, Barry Garratt wrote:
 Hi Dave,

 Thanks for the info. It looks like mine will be heading back to the 
 factory also.

 Have a great day.

 Barry KS7DX

 From: Dave Van Wallaghen [mailto:dvanwallag...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 5:36 AM
 To: Barry Garratt
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

 Barry,
 I just went through the same thing here. It turned out to that I had 
 no output from my LPA board. It is currently at Elecraft being 
 serviced. I have not heard from them yet as to the exact cause. It's 
 only been in for a week or so.
 I used a scope to verify I had RF coming into the board and a logical 
 high on the 7T line but no output.
 I found this trying to tune up as you did and saw the same two dashes 
 on the display.
 Hope this helps.
 73,
 Dave W8FGU
 On Jul 7, 2012 1:54 AM, Barry Garratt bgarr...@earthlink.net wrote:
 When I hit the ATU TUNE button this evening the tuner sounded like it 
 was doing something but instead of the usual display of VSWR as it 
 tuned there were only two dash lines.

 The problem is not band dependent.

 Anyone ever seen this before and if so what was the cure?

 Thanks.

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[Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread KC6D
I had trouble getting the KX3 Utility program to communicate with the radio
in Ubuntu.   Here's what solved the problem for me.  I take no credit for
figuring this out, these were postings by others that I found in three
different places.  I decided to collect the details here so they'd be all in
one spot.  Hope this helps someone.

The FTDI drivers for the USB cable provided by Elecraft are a native part of
Ubuntu 12.04 and do not need to be re-installed.  Just plug the cable into a
USB port.

I found these two additional steps are necessary before the Utility program
will successfully operate:

(Run in a terminal)

 sudo chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB0

 sudo apt-get install curl

The first command is necessary to permit all users of the computer to access
the serial port ttyUSB0.  Note: the last character in USB0 is a zero. 
Without this command you will get an error message telling you that the KX3
Utility program can't communicate with the port.

The second command installs the Linux function curl which enables Ubuntu
to automatically communicate with and download from the Elecraft (and anyone
else's) FTP server.  Note: the last character in curl is the letter L in
lower-case.  Without this command you will get an error message stating the
KX3 Utility program is unable to connect to the Elecraft FTP server.

Once I did the above the Utility program ran smoothly and the firmware
update and other functions all appear to work.  

 Don  KC6D


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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Brian Alsop
I hope all versions of Ubuntu come with a super decoder ring so that 
mortals can make sense of these obviously encrypted commands.

73 de Brian/K3KO


On 7/7/2012 16:51, KC6D wrote:
 I had trouble getting the KX3 Utility program to communicate with the radio
 in Ubuntu.   Here's what solved the problem for me.  I take no credit for
 figuring this out, these were postings by others that I found in three
 different places.  I decided to collect the details here so they'd be all in
 one spot.  Hope this helps someone.

 The FTDI drivers for the USB cable provided by Elecraft are a native part of
 Ubuntu 12.04 and do not need to be re-installed.  Just plug the cable into a
 USB port.

 I found these two additional steps are necessary before the Utility program
 will successfully operate:

 (Run in a terminal)

   sudo chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB0

   sudo apt-get install curl

 The first command is necessary to permit all users of the computer to access
 the serial port ttyUSB0.  Note: the last character in USB0 is a zero.
 Without this command you will get an error message telling you that the KX3
 Utility program can't communicate with the port.

 The second command installs the Linux function curl which enables Ubuntu
 to automatically communicate with and download from the Elecraft (and anyone
 else's) FTP server.  Note: the last character in curl is the letter L in
 lower-case.  Without this command you will get an error message stating the
 KX3 Utility program is unable to connect to the Elecraft FTP server.

 Once I did the above the Utility program ran smoothly and the firmware
 update and other functions all appear to work.

   Don  KC6D


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Re: [Elecraft] LiFePO4 battery packs

2012-07-07 Thread Fred Jensen
On 7/6/2012 7:06 PM, Steve Jackson wrote:

 So, what is the opinion of the learned and experienced regarding these
 battery packs?

Well, there's the obvious ... 600mAh vs 3,000mAh of course.  The LiFePO4 
batteries have a very good capacity to weight ratio, and they are safe, 
you can carry or pack them onto airplanes.  Neither one of them allow 
you to balance the cells however, something that should be done at least 
periodically.

Assuming it is for your K2, you'd probably find that 600mAh was a little 
small.  My K2 draws about 280mA on receive, and at 5W, around 1.5A key 
down.  I use a 4Ah 4S1P LiFePO4 pack that I can balance the cells on 
charge and it lasts about as long as I want to be off in the field 
somewhere.

Li-Poly batteries have a higher capacity to weight ratio which is why 
they are used by RC model folks.  I have one that's about the size of a 
small matchbox, weighs an ounce or so, and is rated at 800mAh, 11.7V.  I 
use it on my KX1.  Li-Poly is somewhat unstable under some circumstances 
and I've had one catch fire while I was using it.  Mine is on a short 
pigtail outside of the rig.

 What's the better deal?  Two of the former?  Anything awful about these
 packs?  Caveats in their use, other than the obvious?

A123 cells are probably the highest quality, Buddipole sells them, they 
are a bit pricey however.  Whatever you choose, be sure to fuse the 
cable to the rig.  These chemistries can deliver anywhere from 10C to 
15C or more if shorted.  For mine, that could be more than 60A.  Beware, 
the 12V and RF connectors on the RF board are the same and the cables 
from the KAT2 will interchange quite easily.  I speak from experience 
and now have a jumpered trace on the board that decided to be a fuse. :-(

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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Re: [Elecraft] LiFePO4 battery packs

2012-07-07 Thread JP O'Connor
According to the product descriptions, both of these battery packs have a
balancing board built into them. The documentation for the board shows that
the board has independent connections to each cell. It protects each cell
from over charge, over discharge, high current discharge, and short
circuit. Thus, you gain the benefit of balance charging while only having
to purchase a lower cost charger, such as the ones suggested for these
packs on their product pages. The larger of these two packs appears to be
very cost effective and a great solution for external power for a KX3,
K2/10, K3/10 or other QRP rig.

A123 branded cells are more expensive, although EP Buddy has them at a very
favorable price. Their packs do not have internal circuitry, however,
requiring purchase of a balancing charger if you want to recharge at higher
rates. See recent KX3 batteries thread on this reflector for discussion.

72/73 de JP WF4Z



On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:

 On 7/6/2012 7:06 PM, Steve Jackson wrote:

  So, what is the opinion of the learned and experienced regarding these
  battery packs?

 Well, there's the obvious ... 600mAh vs 3,000mAh of course.  The LiFePO4
 batteries have a very good capacity to weight ratio, and they are safe,
 you can carry or pack them onto airplanes.  Neither one of them allow
 you to balance the cells however, something that should be done at least
 periodically.

 Assuming it is for your K2, you'd probably find that 600mAh was a little
 small.  My K2 draws about 280mA on receive, and at 5W, around 1.5A key
 down.  I use a 4Ah 4S1P LiFePO4 pack that I can balance the cells on
 charge and it lasts about as long as I want to be off in the field
 somewhere.

 Li-Poly batteries have a higher capacity to weight ratio which is why
 they are used by RC model folks.  I have one that's about the size of a
 small matchbox, weighs an ounce or so, and is rated at 800mAh, 11.7V.  I
 use it on my KX1.  Li-Poly is somewhat unstable under some circumstances
 and I've had one catch fire while I was using it.  Mine is on a short
 pigtail outside of the rig.

  What's the better deal?  Two of the former?  Anything awful about these
  packs?  Caveats in their use, other than the obvious?

 A123 cells are probably the highest quality, Buddipole sells them, they
 are a bit pricey however.  Whatever you choose, be sure to fuse the
 cable to the rig.  These chemistries can deliver anywhere from 10C to
 15C or more if shorted.  For mine, that could be more than 60A.  Beware,
 the 12V and RF connectors on the RF board are the same and the cables
 from the KAT2 will interchange quite easily.  I speak from experience
 and now have a jumpered trace on the board that decided to be a fuse. :-(

 73,

 Fred K6DGW
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 - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
 - www.cqp.org


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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Jussi Eloranta
On 07/07/2012 09:56 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:
 I found these two additional steps are necessary before the Utility program
 will successfully operate:

 (Run in a terminal)

sudo chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB0

sudo apt-get install curl


Rather than changing the device permissions (which you have to do every 
time you boot or unplug/plug the usb serial device),
you should add yourself to the dialout group:

sudo usermod -G dialout your_username

where your_username should be replaced with your username on the 
system. The above will execute as root, so you need to have sudo 
permissions. There is probably some GUI based tool for this but command 
line is simpler ;-) After doing this, you will need to logout and login 
again. You can verify that you have the correct group privs with the id 
command, for example, for me it says:

uid=500(eloranta) gid=500(eloranta) 
groups=500(eloranta),18(dialout),39(video),489(pulse-access),490(pulse),493(jackuser)

where 18(dialout) is the important part.

As for curl, I think the utility program should check for its existence 
during startup and appropriately tell the user to install it before 
proceeding.

Jussi Eloranta (AA6KJ)

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Kevin
Nothing cryptic about it.

sudo allows users temporary admin or root user privi's to the system 
to run commands or install software. When any user invokes sudo they 
will be required to authenticate with user name and password.

chmod is a *nixhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_shell command that 
lets a user tell the system how much (or little) access it should permit 
to a file or program.^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod#cite_note-0 
It changes the file system modes of files and directories. The modes 
include permissions.

The 666 is octal notation for granting users, groups, and others read, 
write, and execute permissions to the USB filesystem.

install apt-get is a command used in all Debian based Linux distro's 
to install software *and all known dependencies*. The program 
automatically downloads and installs software from the Debian/Ubuntu 
repositories along with dependencies and installs it.

In this case it installed the program cURL.


On 07/07/2012 11:56 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:
 I hope all versions of Ubuntu come with a super decoder ring so that
 mortals can make sense of these obviously encrypted commands.

 73 de Brian/K3KO



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle

2012-07-07 Thread Pierfrancesco Caci


Many thanks for this nice example. Now, I would like to free up M4-HOLD,
but I can't find anywhere in the manuals how to delete a macro
assignment from one of the programmable keys. Is it possible at all, or
should I just wait for when I come up with my next macro and just
replace it?

Pf

 Nick-WA5BDU == Nick-WA5BDU  nick-wa5...@suddenlink.net writes:


Nick-WA5BDU Whoa, I like this.  Must have missed it the first time around. 
 I now 
Nick-WA5BDU tap M3 to toggle between
Nick-WA5BDU 5W (label: QRP) and 100W (label: QRO) with these macros:

Nick-WA5BDU MACRO1   PC005;MN110;SWT12;SWT35;SWT14;
Nick-WA5BDU MACRO2   PC100;MN110;SWT11;SWT35;SWT14;

Nick-WA5BDU That freed up (hold) M3 for another macro.

Nick-WA5BDU TU / 73-

Nick-WA5BDU Nick, WA5BDU


Nick-WA5BDU On 7/1/2012 12:35 PM, KU4AF wrote:
 Two macros instead of one - that sums up what is needed, but how to call 
two
 macros with one button? I was just fiddling around and came up with this,
 though it may not be original. The idea is to let the macro itself 
reassign
 the PF key to a different macro. For example, say you want the PF2 key to
 toggle between setting VFO A to 14010 and 14020 (not useful but just an
 example).
 
 Use the Utility to create the two macros like this:
 
 MACRO1   FA0001401;MN110;SWT12;SWH47;SWT14;
 MACRO2   FA0001402;MN110;SWT11;SWH47;SWT14;
 
 Send the Macros to the K3 then, on the K3, go to CONFIG:MACRO X, tap 1 
and
 then hold PF2. Tap MENU to get out of CONFIG. Now MACRO1 is assigned to 
PF2.
 When you Hold PF2 the macro changes the frequency and then assigns 
MACRO2 to
 PF2. The next operation of PF2 sets a different frequency and sets PF2 
back
 to MACRO1.
 
 Substitute whatever you want to toggle between for the FA commands. Put 
the
 two macros in whatever slots you have open and change the SWT11/12 taps 
to
 match. Change SWH47 to match the PF/M button you want to use. You could 
also
 expand on this to rotate among 3 or more macros.
 
 I expect others can add to this and again, I claim no originality for 
this
 idea. Now, who will be the first to suggest we need more than 8 Macro 
slots?
 
 John, KU4AF
 Pittsboro, NC
 
 


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[Elecraft] K3 sometimes forgets set power level?

2012-07-07 Thread AC6JA
I have my K3 set up with my KPA500 and to run 15 watts in OPER and 100  
watts in STBY.
It seems every so often when I switch between OPER and STBY, both power  
levels will be at 15 watts and I have to roll the power back up to 100 watts 
in  STBY mode.
Any ideas as to why the K3 would forget the power level?
I am running the most current firmware versions in both.
Any info would be appreciated.
 
Mike  AC6JA
K3 #3215
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[Elecraft] K3 KRX3 Kit For Sale

2012-07-07 Thread Norm Duxbury, W1MO
I bought my KRX3 kit in 2008, put the box on a shelf, and never built it.  It's 
for sale now to someone who will build it and get some enjoyment from it.  

Kit includes standard 2.7 kHz filter, plus 400 Hz cw filter, in box as received 
from Elecraft.

Current Elecraft price is $739.90, plus shipping.
Your price is 599.95 plus shipping (like getting the 400 Hz filter free).

73, Norm - W1MO
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Re: [Elecraft] Stuck in MCU LD

2012-07-07 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Perhaps you shut down your PC last night, which is the same as a reboot?

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

-Original Message-
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Stuck in MCU LD

Problem solved!
But, after trying everything written about Firmware updating, plus trying
suggestions by Iain, N6Ml and Don, W3FPR, worked until this morning.
My testing included disconnecting, things from the K3, changing USB/Com
cables and various lengths of no power periods from seconds in length to 2
hours.
I went to bed. This morning I tried doing the upgrade in the last
configuration I had last night, It worked perfectly. 
So I moved to my other K3.

I was doing a firmware update and something happened to interrupt it.
I have tried all the documented reset methods.
And nothing works.
changed USB cable and ports.
Using the newest Util release.
Nothing.  Just can’t communicate to the radio

Any hints?

Larry/K2GN - http://k2gn.com

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Perhaps I missed it, but I am thinking we would rather have a simple GUI
with easier commands?  I for one have no clue for programming but use Ubuntu
and shorter versions of Linux which don't require the programming language
which leaves me in a lurch.  There is so much to know, so little time. Let
the devotees do the GUI for the mere mortals to use.  I use Puppy off a USB
stick and it is so simple... just like me.  NOT.  :=#

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 1:51 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

Nothing cryptic about it.

sudo allows users temporary admin or root user privi's to the system to
run commands or install software. When any user invokes sudo they will be
required to authenticate with user name and password.

chmod is a *nixhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_shell command that lets
a user tell the system how much (or little) access it should permit to a
file or program.^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod#cite_note-0
It changes the file system modes of files and directories. The modes include
permissions.

The 666 is octal notation for granting users, groups, and others read,
write, and execute permissions to the USB filesystem.

install apt-get is a command used in all Debian based Linux distro's to
install software *and all known dependencies*. The program automatically
downloads and installs software from the Debian/Ubuntu repositories along
with dependencies and installs it.


In this case it installed the program cURL.


On 07/07/2012 11:56 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:
 I hope all versions of Ubuntu come with a super decoder ring so that 
 mortals can make sense of these obviously encrypted commands.

 73 de Brian/K3KO



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AC0H

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

2012-07-07 Thread N5GE
Gary,

If I were you I'd call Elecraft support before sending the board.  They may give
you some tests to make to determine if you have the same problem as Dave.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 09:47:09 -0700, Barry Garratt bgarr...@earthlink.net
wrote:

Hey Dave,

I'll try that and report back but I'm getting the feeling it's going to back
to the factory.

Regards,

Barry KS7DX


-Original Message-
From: Dave Van Wallaghen [mailto:w8...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 9:15 AM
To: Barry Garratt
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

Hey Barry,

If you are so inclined, you might try re-seating the LPA board. I did read a
couple of instances where that cleared up the problem. Although, it did not
clear mine up :-(

Either way, it you wouldn't mind, please post back your findings. I'd be
interested to see if it was the LPA or not.

Take care  73,
Dave W8FGU



On 7/7/2012 12:02 PM, Barry Garratt wrote:
 Hi Dave,

 Thanks for the info. It looks like mine will be heading back to the 
 factory also.

 Have a great day.

 Barry KS7DX

 From: Dave Van Wallaghen [mailto:dvanwallag...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 5:36 AM
 To: Barry Garratt
 Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

 Barry,
 I just went through the same thing here. It turned out to that I had 
 no output from my LPA board. It is currently at Elecraft being 
 serviced. I have not heard from them yet as to the exact cause. It's 
 only been in for a week or so.
 I used a scope to verify I had RF coming into the board and a logical 
 high on the 7T line but no output.
 I found this trying to tune up as you did and saw the same two dashes 
 on the display.
 Hope this helps.
 73,
 Dave W8FGU
 On Jul 7, 2012 1:54 AM, Barry Garratt bgarr...@earthlink.net wrote:
 When I hit the ATU TUNE button this evening the tuner sounded like it 
 was doing something but instead of the usual display of VSWR as it 
 tuned there were only two dash lines.

 The problem is not band dependent.

 Anyone ever seen this before and if so what was the cure?

 Thanks.

 Barry KS7DX



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle

2012-07-07 Thread KU4AF
Pf,

You can clear the macro from the M1-M4 keys by storing a CW or voice message
there. Just tap the REC key, then the M key, record the message and tap the
REC key again. If you don't want a message there, just tap the REC key
without recording anything.

John, KU4AF
Pittsboro, NC 


Many thanks for this nice example. Now, I would like to free up M4-HOLD,
but I can't find anywhere in the manuals how to delete a macro
assignment from one of the programmable keys. Is it possible at all, or
should I just wait for when I come up with my next macro and just
replace it?

Pf


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Re: [Elecraft] Am I missing something?

2012-07-07 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
Paul,

I updated my firmware last night with no issues.  Double-check and make 
sure you have the latest version of the K3 Utility installed.  I believe 
it is required in order to update to all new firmware versions.

73,

--Ian

Ian Kahn, KM4IK
Roswell, GA  EM74ua
km4ik@gmail.com
K3 #281, P3 #688
HRD v5.x/6.0 Test Team

On 7/7/2012 8:01 AM, Paul VanOveren wrote:
 I saw a couple of references here on the reflector about the 4.51 Beta 
 firmware now being a production release. I do not see it on the Elecraft 
 website under firmware category and I checked in the K3 Utility  1.12.3.28 
 ver.Mine reads

MCU  Installed  4.48
 available 4.39
FPF   1.15 
 1.14
DSP 1   2.73   
   2.73
DSP 2   2.73   
   2.73
DVR 1.03

  If I check versions available, it does not change. The K3 is 
 communicating properly at 38,400 bps, running thru the P3.

 Anyone else see this. ???

 NF8J  Paul


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[Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Adrian

Yes the permissions catch a few out. I never realised K3Util Linux ran a
curl script to get the firmware,  that's interesting. Of course you could
run it in terminal knowing the ftp path etc.
Most Ubuntu users just need to join the dialout group rather than chmod the
dev.

This right is gained by adding the user to the dialout group. 

The dialout group owns the /dev/ttyS* devices and can read the
/etc/wvdial.conf file

In a default Desktop installation, the first user on the system is
considered an administrator, and as of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS is a member of the
following groups: adm, dialout, cdrom, plugdev, lpadmin, admin, sambashare

So as a new Ubuntu user it is worth checking which groups you are a member
of. Run below command in terminal to add dialout.

Sudo addgroup yourusername dialout

Or

usermod -a -G dialout yourusername

Or GUI;

The Users Administration Tool allows you add, delete and modify the existing
users and groups in your system. To start
 
From gui menu; Click on System  Administration  Users and Group 

You can also start tool from command line / terminal: 

users-admin 


I am very naughty here and run as root all the time now in fedora 17
(started on centOS 5 and fedora 10),  so permissions are not an issue.

Have been doing that for 6 years and yet to have an issue.

Adrian ... vk4tux

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Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 2:52 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

I had trouble getting the KX3 Utility program to communicate with the radio
in Ubuntu.   Here's what solved the problem for me.  I take no credit for
figuring this out, these were postings by others that I found in three
different places.  I decided to collect the details here so they'd be all in
one spot.  Hope this helps someone.

The FTDI drivers for the USB cable provided by Elecraft are a native part of
Ubuntu 12.04 and do not need to be re-installed.  Just plug the cable into a
USB port.

I found these two additional steps are necessary before the Utility program
will successfully operate:

(Run in a terminal)

 sudo chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB0

 sudo apt-get install curl

The first command is necessary to permit all users of the computer to access
the serial port ttyUSB0.  Note: the last character in USB0 is a zero. 
Without this command you will get an error message telling you that the KX3
Utility program can't communicate with the port.

The second command installs the Linux function curl which enables Ubuntu
to automatically communicate with and download from the Elecraft (and anyone
else's) FTP server.  Note: the last character in curl is the letter L in
lower-case.  Without this command you will get an error message stating the
KX3 Utility program is unable to connect to the Elecraft FTP server.

Once I did the above the Utility program ran smoothly and the firmware
update and other functions all appear to work.  

 Don  KC6D


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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Bill,

These are just csh or bash commands, not programming.

73,
matt

On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:10:18 -0500, you wrote:

Perhaps I missed it, but I am thinking we would rather have a simple GUI
with easier commands?  I for one have no clue for programming but use Ubuntu
and shorter versions of Linux which don't require the programming language
which leaves me in a lurch.  There is so much to know, so little time. Let
the devotees do the GUI for the mere mortals to use.  I use Puppy off a USB
stick and it is so simple... just like me.  NOT.  :=#

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 1:51 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

Nothing cryptic about it.

sudo allows users temporary admin or root user privi's to the system to
run commands or install software. When any user invokes sudo they will be
required to authenticate with user name and password.

chmod is a *nixhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_shell command that lets
a user tell the system how much (or little) access it should permit to a
file or program.^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod#cite_note-0
It changes the file system modes of files and directories. The modes include
permissions.

The 666 is octal notation for granting users, groups, and others read,
write, and execute permissions to the USB filesystem.

install apt-get is a command used in all Debian based Linux distro's to
install software *and all known dependencies*. The program automatically
downloads and installs software from the Debian/Ubuntu repositories along
with dependencies and installs it.


In this case it installed the program cURL.


On 07/07/2012 11:56 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:
 I hope all versions of Ubuntu come with a super decoder ring so that 
 mortals can make sense of these obviously encrypted commands.

 73 de Brian/K3KO

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Adrian
This is an easy guide for a gui solution;

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/addmodify-and-delete-users-and-groups-in-ubuntu-us
ing-gui.html

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill K9YEQ
Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:10 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

Perhaps I missed it, but I am thinking we would rather have a simple GUI
with easier commands?  I for one have no clue for programming but use Ubuntu
and shorter versions of Linux which don't require the programming language
which leaves me in a lurch.  There is so much to know, so little time. Let
the devotees do the GUI for the mere mortals to use.  I use Puppy off a USB
stick and it is so simple... just like me.  NOT.  :=#

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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[Elecraft] K3 sometimes forgets set power level?

2012-07-07 Thread Bob Cunnings
I see a similar problem here when using the band change buttons on the
KPA500 -- with KPA500 BAND CHG set to STBY and K3 PWR SET set to PER
BAND. The K3 STBY power level for a band A appears to be overwritten
with the OPER power level when the KPA500 is in OPER mode and I shift
to another band B, causing the KPA500 to change from OPER to STBY.
On return to band A the KPA500 is in STBY but the K3 power level is
wrong and must be changed back to the original value (100 W). There is
no problem when KPA500 BAND CHG set to NOR. When I reported it to
Elecraft support they acknowledged the issue and said it would be
sorted out in a future firmware release.

I have KPA500 BAND CHG set to STBY because I use a manually adjusted
balanced antenna tuner and don't want the amp to be in OPER status
until I've re-tuned after a band change.

Bob NW8L

I have my K3 set up with my KPA500 and to run 15 watts in OPER and 100
watts in STBY.
It seems every so often when I switch between OPER and STBY, both power
levels will be at 15 watts and I have to roll the power back up to 100 watts
in  STBY mode.
Any ideas as to why the K3 would forget the power level?
I am running the most current firmware versions in both.
Any info would be appreciated.

Mike  AC6JA
K3 #3215
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[Elecraft] K3 encoder backlash?

2012-07-07 Thread AC6JA
I have a factory-built K3 #3215 and have always noticed a significant  
amount of backlash on the four encoders located just left of the VFO A  knob.
Has this been improved on newer K3's?  Is there a replacement option  or a 
newer front panel available to improve this?
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks.
 
 
Mike AC6JA
K3 #3215
P3 #2039
KPA500 #809

 
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Adrian
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/addmodify-and-delete-users-and-groups-in-ubuntu-us
ing-gui.html

Annoying when the link string gets broken.

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Adrian
Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:50 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

This is an easy guide for a gui solution;

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/addmodify-and-delete-users-and-groups-in-ubuntu-us
ing-gui.html

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill K9YEQ
Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 7:10 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

Perhaps I missed it, but I am thinking we would rather have a simple GUI
with easier commands?  I for one have no clue for programming but use Ubuntu
and shorter versions of Linux which don't require the programming language
which leaves me in a lurch.  There is so much to know, so little time. Let
the devotees do the GUI for the mere mortals to use.  I use Puppy off a USB
stick and it is so simple... just like me.  NOT.  :=#

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Macro toggle

2012-07-07 Thread KU4AF
Hmm, further investigation shows this isn't the whole story. Recording a CW
or voice message to an Mx key does clear its MxT and MxH macro assignments,
but if I assign a new macro to either MxT or MxH (but not both), that macro
will then operate for both MxTap and MxHold.

This oddity doesn't prevent assigning another macro to the unintended Tap or
Hold, but it does seem buggish. I guess if you really want the unused key
function to do nothing you could assign an empty macro to it.

John, KU4AF
Pittsboro, NC


Pf,

You can clear the macro from the M1-M4 keys by storing a CW or voice message
there. Just tap the REC key, then the M key, record the message and tap the
REC key again. If you don't want a message there, just tap the REC key
without recording anything.

John, KU4AF
Pittsboro, NC 


Pierfrancesco Caci wrote
 
 Many thanks for this nice example. Now, I would like to free up M4-HOLD,
 but I can't find anywhere in the manuals how to delete a macro
 assignment from one of the programmable keys. Is it possible at all, or
 should I just wait for when I come up with my next macro and just
 replace it?
 
 Pf
 

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Well there you go, Matt.  I am unfamiliar with those.  I am such  an MS
person.  I don't use manual commands other than MS, so this doesn't help me.
I use the GUI which is just clicks and I don't do much command line as I
don't have to load up the getting older can't remember all this stuff, type
of activity.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


-Original Message-
From: Matt Zilmer [mailto:mzil...@verizon.net] 
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 4:45 PM
To: Bill K9YEQ
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

Hi Bill,

These are just csh or bash commands, not programming.

73,
matt

On Sat, 07 Jul 2012 16:10:18 -0500, you wrote:

Perhaps I missed it, but I am thinking we would rather have a simple 
GUI with easier commands?  I for one have no clue for programming but 
use Ubuntu and shorter versions of Linux which don't require the 
programming language which leaves me in a lurch.  There is so much to 
know, so little time. Let the devotees do the GUI for the mere mortals 
to use.  I use Puppy off a USB stick and it is so simple... just like 
me.  NOT.  :=#

73,
Bill
K9YEQ


-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2012 1:51 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

Nothing cryptic about it.

sudo allows users temporary admin or root user privi's to the 
system to run commands or install software. When any user invokes sudo 
they will be required to authenticate with user name and password.

chmod is a *nixhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNIX_shell command that 
lets a user tell the system how much (or little) access it should 
permit to a file or 
program.^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chmod#cite_note-0
It changes the file system modes of files and directories. The modes 
include permissions.

The 666 is octal notation for granting users, groups, and others 
read, write, and execute permissions to the USB filesystem.

install apt-get is a command used in all Debian based Linux distro's 
to install software *and all known dependencies*. The program 
automatically downloads and installs software from the Debian/Ubuntu 
repositories along with dependencies and installs it.


In this case it installed the program cURL.


On 07/07/2012 11:56 AM, Brian Alsop wrote:
 I hope all versions of Ubuntu come with a super decoder ring so that 
 mortals can make sense of these obviously encrypted commands.

 73 de Brian/K3KO


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[Elecraft] Using KX3 with MFJ-1899T

2012-07-07 Thread Robert S. McCuskey
With my KX-3, KX-1, and K-1,  I have used the MFJ-1899T attached to the
Alpha-Delta mini-tripod made for the Outback Joey antenna. Attached to it is
a 35 ft #24 stealth wire counterpoise with markings for the various lengths
needed for 40-10 meters allowing me to unwind off the spool to the proper
length depending on band in use. It works well when a better antenna such as
an EFHW can not be deployed, e.g., in a hotel room.  One note of caution,
the settings contained in the instructions for the 1899-T that come with the
antenna are not accurate and one has to recalibrate, and, here, the use of
an antenna analyzer is very helpful.   However, the settings contained on
the instructions posted on the MFJ web site are fairly close as are the
counterpoise lengths.

 

Bob McCuskey W7BV 

 

Re: [Elecraft] Using KX3 with MFJ-1899T

Ronald Nutter
Sat, 07 Jul 2012 04:22:53 -0700

I have ordered a MFJ-1899T and had similar concerns about the potential 

weight on the connector.  I went with a MFJ-332B mag base with BNC 

connector.  When traveling on business, I will usually have a rental 

car.  This will let me use the car as a base for the antenna.  I was 

trying to find a compact solutions as possible to take with me.

 

May eventually try the single band antennas, I have only found the MFJ 

versions. Seems the Maldol ones arent made anymore.

 

Ron

KA4KYI

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 sometimes forgets set power level?

2012-07-07 Thread Gary Gregory
*Mike,

Same here so I am also interested in any comments.
Gary
*
On 8 July 2012 06:21, ac...@aol.com wrote:

 I have my K3 set up with my KPA500 and to run 15 watts in OPER and 100
 watts in STBY.
 It seems every so often when I switch between OPER and STBY, both power
 levels will be at 15 watts and I have to roll the power back up to 100
 watts
 in  STBY mode.
 Any ideas as to why the K3 would forget the power level?
 I am running the most current firmware versions in both.
 Any info would be appreciated.

 Mike  AC6JA
 K3 #3215
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Matt Maguire
The super decoder ring you seek is the Linux man command. For example:
man sudo
man chmod
man apt-get

This will explain what the commands and their various options do.

73, Matt VK2ACL



On 08/07/2012, at 12:56 AM, Brian Alsop als...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I hope all versions of Ubuntu come with a super decoder ring so that 
 mortals can make sense of these obviously encrypted commands.
 
 73 de Brian/K3KO
 
 
 On 7/7/2012 16:51, KC6D wrote:
 I had trouble getting the KX3 Utility program to communicate with the radio
 in Ubuntu.   Here's what solved the problem for me.  I take no credit for
 figuring this out, these were postings by others that I found in three
 different places.  I decided to collect the details here so they'd be all in
 one spot.  Hope this helps someone.
 
 The FTDI drivers for the USB cable provided by Elecraft are a native part of
 Ubuntu 12.04 and do not need to be re-installed.  Just plug the cable into a
 USB port.
 
 I found these two additional steps are necessary before the Utility program
 will successfully operate:
 
 (Run in a terminal)
 
  sudo chmod 666 /dev/ttyUSB0
 
  sudo apt-get install curl
 
 The first command is necessary to permit all users of the computer to access
 the serial port ttyUSB0.  Note: the last character in USB0 is a zero.
 Without this command you will get an error message telling you that the KX3
 Utility program can't communicate with the port.
 
 The second command installs the Linux function curl which enables Ubuntu
 to automatically communicate with and download from the Elecraft (and anyone
 else's) FTP server.  Note: the last character in curl is the letter L in
 lower-case.  Without this command you will get an error message stating the
 KX3 Utility program is unable to connect to the Elecraft FTP server.
 
 Once I did the above the Utility program ran smoothly and the firmware
 update and other functions all appear to work.
 
  Don  KC6D
 
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2012 07 Jul 16:38 -0500, Adrian wrote:
 
 I am very naughty here and run as root all the time now in fedora 17
 (started on centOS 5 and fedora 10),  so permissions are not an issue.
 
 Have been doing that for 6 years and yet to have an issue.

Until someone tells you to:

cd /
rm -rf *

Have a nice day!

;-)

73, de Nate, N0NB 

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[Elecraft] K3 encoder backlash?

2012-07-07 Thread AC6JA
 
I have a factory-built K3 #3215 and have always noticed a significant  
amount of backlash on the four encoders located just left of the VFO A  knob.
Has this been improved on newer K3's? Is there a replacement option or a  
newer front panel available to improve this?
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks.

 
Mike AC6JA
K3 #3215
P3 #2039
KPA500 #809

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3 problem

2012-07-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Besides, you should *never* just send an Elecraft radio to Watsonville 
for repair.
There are repair depots all over the globe.
Contact support, and if warranted, they will request an RSA number for 
you.  When you get the email with the RSA form, fill it out and read the 
2nd page to find out where to send it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/7/2012 5:12 PM, N5GE wrote:
 Gary,

 If I were you I'd call Elecraft support before sending the board.  They may 
 give
 you some tests to make to determine if you have the same problem as Dave.



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[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2012-07-07 Thread kevinr

Good Evening,
  A week of sun and decent propagation was nice.  I enjoyed it. The 
flowers are telling me the countdown to fall has begun.  Turk's cap 
lilies and foxglove.  Seems like summer only got here yesterday :)

Please join us tomorrow afternoon and evening.

1) Hail signs  (first letter or two of the suffix of your call)
2) NCS help  (as well as QSP/QNP relay help)

Sunday 2200z (Sunday 3 PM PDT) 14050 kHz
Monday 0200z (Sunday 7 PM PDT)  7045 kHz

Stay well,
   Kevin.  KD5ONS
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[Elecraft] thanks for help w/ P3 and LP-PAN

2012-07-07 Thread Robert G. Strickland
I just discovered an email filter that was trashing responses to my 
request for opinions about the P3 and LP-PAN. Thanks to all who replied. 
Very helpful.
...robert

On 7/2/2012 19:01, Robert G. Strickland wrote:
 In another post I ask about sub-receiver versus panadapter. Here, a
 question about type of panadapter. My station occupies a very small
 space, and adding the P3 would strain the real estate. So, I've been
 looking at other panadapter possibilities that use the computer screen
 for display. What sort of useful comparisons can be made between the P3
 and the LP-Pan box/software? Are there any other panadapter options that
 I should consider? Thanks for any and all opinions.

 ...robert


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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Jussi Eloranta
On 07/07/2012 06:36 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
 * On 2012 07 Jul 16:38 -0500, Adrian wrote:
   
 I am very naughty here and run as root all the time now in fedora 17
 (started on centOS 5 and fedora 10),  so permissions are not an issue.

 Have been doing that for 6 years and yet to have an issue.
 Until someone tells you to:

 cd /
 rm -rf *

 Have a nice day!

While you might not type that in, there might be an ill behaving program 
(on purpose or a bug) that could do something like that. Or simply you 
open up a tar archive or something and that might overwrite important 
files etc. I would strongly advise against running everything as root.

Jussi Eloranta (AA6KJ)

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Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

2012-07-07 Thread Adrian
Or stick my head in the fire also. Not quite that gullible ;)

Fedora 17 looks v-good, The latest linux is much more GUI orientated and
user friendly 
than years ago. Everyone seems to pick up Ubuntu, but the latest fedora is
very good.
CLI knowledge is very beneficial, also with windows. When your PC system
goes down,
 that knowledge can save you.

The worst thing about windows is the virus and malware attacks. I use
Microsoft Security Essentials (free) and find it very good rather than
paying virus upgrade
 subscriptions for systems that tend to slow down PC performance.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-AU/windows/products/security-essentials

I also use windows 7 and xp on the laptop as well.

 You don't see many companies support the range of OS available like
Elecraft do.
Maybe getting OT this thread, but hey we all use computers now in ham radio
even if occasionally.

Adrian ... vk4tux

-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nate Bargmann
Sent: Sunday, 8 July 2012 11:36 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Firmware upgrades using Ubuntu 12.04

* On 2012 07 Jul 16:38 -0500, Adrian wrote:
 
 I am very naughty here and run as root all the time now in fedora 17 
 (started on centOS 5 and fedora 10),  so permissions are not an issue.
 
 Have been doing that for 6 years and yet to have an issue.

Until someone tells you to:

cd /
rm -rf *

Have a nice day!

;-)

73, de Nate, N0NB 

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