[Elecraft] KAT-500 LED Brightness

2012-12-26 Thread rlvz
Would anyone know if there is a way to decrease the brightness of the KAT500 
LED's?  Perhaps via the KAT-500 Utility program?
I sure do hope so because as-is the LED's are way too bright for me.  (I've got 
a sensitivity to light problem).


Thank You & 73-


Dick
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Re: [Elecraft] Cannot download driver for KUSB

2012-12-26 Thread Dave Perry, N4QS
Dick,

That worked.  Thanks.

Dave, N4QS

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From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:die...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 8:28 PM
To: n...@comcast.net
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Cannot download driver for KUSB

I got mine from Windows update by plugging in the adapter. 

Dick, K6KR

On Dec 26, 2012, at 17:27, "Dave Perry, N4QS"  wrote:

> I received a KUSB from Elecraft today.  I am trying to download the 
> driver from the FTDI website.  The Windows x86 32 bit version will not 
> download.  I am getting a network error.  It is only a 1,322 KB file.  
> Can I get the driver anywhere else?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave, N4QS
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Re: [Elecraft] Cannot download driver for KUSB

2012-12-26 Thread Dick Dievendorff
I got mine from Windows update by plugging in the adapter. 

Dick, K6KR

On Dec 26, 2012, at 17:27, "Dave Perry, N4QS"  wrote:

> I received a KUSB from Elecraft today.  I am trying to download the driver
> from the FTDI website.  The Windows x86 32 bit version will not download.  I
> am getting a network error.  It is only a 1,322 KB file.  Can I get the
> driver anywhere else?
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Dave, N4QS
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[Elecraft] [KAT500] Remote tuner now at 25F

2012-12-26 Thread ab2tc
Hi all,

Just a short report after returning from celbrating Christmas at Grandma's
farm and temperatures have dropped considerably. Tuner is doing great -
memorized settings are working with no noticeable drift in SWR readings. Of
course 25F is nothing extreme around here, but it's far from room
temperature. 

AB2TC - Knut



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[Elecraft] Cannot download driver for KUSB

2012-12-26 Thread Dave Perry, N4QS
I received a KUSB from Elecraft today.  I am trying to download the driver
from the FTDI website.  The Windows x86 32 bit version will not download.  I
am getting a network error.  It is only a 1,322 KB file.  Can I get the
driver anywhere else?

 

Thank you.

 

Dave, N4QS

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Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue, and a new question

2012-12-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Not a problem if you buy from reputable dealers,  My preferences are The 
Wireman and RF Parts Connection.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2012 8:12 PM, bill ny9h wrote:




I used a piece of red/black paired wire ..



prompts me to mention that just because it says it is 10 gauge  or 12 
or whatever gauge 
take a good look before you buy that spool...i have bought stuff 
red/black that was NOT as printed on the spool or the wire. and as 
you might guess it was too small diameter.


I keep some standards... and a wire gauge..
( I love the hamfest vendors that label that stuff  12 "guage"


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation

2012-12-26 Thread Brett Howard
i bought one a while back for about 70 bucks.  Its an IO Gear GUCE50.  I've
had varying success with it.  Currently I use it to extend my USB from my
media server into the living room to allow for connection of a IR
receiver.  For a while I was also using a USB to fiber optic sound card so
based on that I think that firmware updates would be acceptable.

In Linux I'd had some issues with the computer crashing and the dmesg log
actually stated that the USB stack blew up and it said "Possible EMI?".
However in Windows I'd never had any of these issues.  Once I changed my
antenna system up a bit I've had no issues what-so-ever even with 500 watts.

If you have any further questions feel free to ask.

~Brett


On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:

> You can retune to a prior memory setting by sending a serial command, MT
> ; where  is the frequency in kHz.
>
> But as you note, it requires a serial connection. But if you're not
> counting
> Tx frequency, you'd need some sort of connection to adjust the tuner...
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Larry Phipps
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:29 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation
>
> I have been reading some of the KAT500 traffic and thought I'd weigh in
> with
> my particular thoughts.
>
> One reason to have the tuner follow the VFO is that I would like to use the
> KAT500 for receive sometimes for SWL'ing or listening to BCB. In this case,
> I can't transmit, so it would be nice to have the tuner track the VFO.
>
> One option is to use the utility to manually select settings, but my
> KAT500 is remoted at the base of my antenna in a waterproof box. A USB
> cable
> of the required length is not feasible, but I am looking into using a
> wireless USB extender for the task. I already have some wireless
> RS232 serial extenders, but have never tried one for USB. The prices are
> all
> over the place. Does anyone have any experience with these devices, with or
> without the KAT500? Would they be safe for flashing firmware?
>
> Even with the utility connected, though, there doesn't appear to be any
> easy
> way to save setups based on names or frequencies. Maybe I've missed it
> since
> I'm not using the utility.
>
> 73,
> Larry N8LP
>
>
>
> On 12/25/2012 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:54:36 -0800
> > From: Wayne Burdick
> > To: ab2tc
> > Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation
> >   (including auxBus tradeoffs)
> > Message-ID:
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
> >
> >
> > So what we're talking about now is whether it would be worth sending
> > frequency data from the K3 to the KAT500--at the time of keying--over
> > either the auxBus or the RS232 port. The answer, IMHO, is no. In
> > either case it would take approximately the same amount of time to
> > send the data as it would for the KAT500 to do RF sensing of the VFO
> > frequency.
> >
> > If someone has a better idea or would like to explain their operating
> > scenario further, I'm all ears.
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Price guesstimate on KXPA100

2012-12-26 Thread Matt Zilmer
About 90,000 of them.  The kit will probably be less.  Eric has stated
that the list price is not set at this time so this is truly a guess.

73,
matt W6NIA


On Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:42:14 -0500, you wrote:

>Anybody got a guess how many pennies I need to save up for a KXPA100 for my 
>KX3? Not sure I've seen this on the list.
>
>geoff - W1OH
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Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue, and a new question

2012-12-26 Thread bill ny9h




I used a piece of red/black paired wire ..



prompts me to mention that just because it says it is 10 gauge  or 12 
or whatever gauge 
take a good look before you buy that spool...i have bought 
stuff  red/black that was NOT as printed on the spool or the 
wire. and as you might guess it was too small diameter.


I keep some standards... and a wire gauge..
( I love the hamfest vendors that label that stuff  12 "guage"

bill 


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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with a K3 screw - suggestions needed

2012-12-26 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Fabio,

I think I can help you. I had exactly the same problem and posted this
message some time ago:

I wanted to share a very successful procedure to remove one of the flat head
4-40 cover screws from my K3. The screw head was damaged beyond use. There
was a long thread on the subject last year and one poster suggested using a
left hand drill bit. I purchased a 3/32" left hand bit, chucked it into my
hand drill, masked off the screw to avoid any cover damage, drilled very
slowly, and 5 seconds later the drill bit with the entire screw was in my
hands. The threads of the 2-D fastener were totally undamaged and a new
screw was easily put into place. My thanks to the poster that made the
recommendation.

73,
Mike K2MK


Fabio IZ4AFW / NZ1W wrote
> Hi guys,
> today I decided to try to apply a mod (Audio Low Pass filter) to my 
> beloved K3.
> My K3 was born in September, 2009 and I bought it factory assembled.
> Up till now, I just added a couple of additional filters and the KV3A 
> board; so, I never unassembled the front panel before.
> 
> Today I found that one of the upper front panel screws was probably 
> overtightened (or defective).
> I tried to unscrew the screw with several phillips screwdrivers (little 
> and big), to no avail.
> The side effect of my (unsuccessful) tentatives was that:
> 1) I was not able to unscrew the screw
> 2) now the screw head is damaged (see pic at 
> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/V1aTCoSq5qkgs3y-beE_DdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink)
> 
> I got to unassemble the front panel unscrewing a couple of screws more, 
> but I'd like to solve this little problem (moreover, it's ugly).
> Before going with some more destructive methods (I am thinking about 
> drilling the screw??), I'd like to have some savy suggestion from the 
> community...
> Moreover, do you know if Elecraft has an additional screw kit available 
> (I don't need the stainless steel ones)?
> 
> As a side note, I found that almost all the flat-head screws were very 
> "soft" and damage-prone (differently from the other round-head screws).
> 
> Thanks in advance for your suggestions,
> 73 Ciao
> Fabio
>   IZ4AFW - NZ1W - HI9/IZ4AFW





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[Elecraft] K2 for sale

2012-12-26 Thread Jeffrey Blumenfeld
For sale

K2 serial 000627
with the following installed:
KSB2 SSB Adapter
KNB2 Noise Blanker
KAF2 Audio Filter and Real-Time Clock
ETS2 3" Titt Stand
Yaesu MH-31 mic

also includes installed "finger dimple" on original elecraft tuning knob, and 
spare tuning knob from an FT817

total price new over $1150

asking $850

email me off list to 

Jeffrey Blumenfeld KB3DX

M:  202.255.6300


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Re: [Elecraft] PL-2303 USB-Serial Drivers

2012-12-26 Thread Rick Prather
Yes Chris, that procedure works great.

Before running that the only serial port that showed up new after installing 
the Prolific driver was "USB Serial" and it didn't work.

After running  through that procedure and using his recommended driver 
"PL2303" shows in in the drop down menu and it works great.

A new user just needs to not be put off by the language in the screen prints, 
the steps flow normally.

73,
Rick
K6LE



On 12/26/2012, at 4:15 , Chris Hembree  wrote:

> I would just like to share with everyone. When I did a upgrade to Mountain 
> Lion, my PL-2303 driver did not work. The only drivers that I found that 
> worked were from this web site.
> 
> http://changux.co/osx-installer-to-pl2303-serial-usb-on-osx-lio
> 
> 
> Hope this helps anyone that may need this.
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[Elecraft] PL-2303 USB-Serial Drivers

2012-12-26 Thread Chris Hembree
I would just like to share with everyone. When I did a upgrade to Mountain 
Lion, my PL-2303 driver did not work. The only drivers that I found that worked 
were from this web site.

http://changux.co/osx-installer-to-pl2303-serial-usb-on-osx-lio


Hope this helps anyone that may need this.
Chris W7CTH
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Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue, and a new question

2012-12-26 Thread Richard Fjeld
Thanks, Bert  (nice call)

I started out to share some info with Ian, and things got interesting at my qth.

Some of your measurements are similar to mine.  Here are the details of what I 
found in case a person is interested:

I used a piece of red/black paired wire from my Astron to my homebrew 
distribution.  Without disconnecting it, I think it looks a size smaller than 
the wire to the K3.  I also looked at the fuse holder (buss type) and the wire 
on it looks smaller as well. I'm going to replace both with heavier wire. 

As for my distribution, I use ground blocks for AC power panels and mount them 
in plastic outlet boxes.  I solder the ends of my wires before I tighten the 
screws down on them. I am not opposed to bypassing the distribution blocks if 
need be.

I checked all my manuals for schematics, and finally downloaded them.  I 
printed out the first six pages.  I can see that the 12V out jack is not part 
of the ammeter sensing, so the P3 current can be ignored when using the K3 
ammeter.

A couple replies said the current draw will vary by band.  That is good to know.

I wonder if you made your measurements on the 75/80 meter band as I did. I'm 
curious about your mention of the 18 amps tapering down to 14 amps thing.

I need to do as you did and measure the voltage with my DVM at the PS, the 
distribution blocks, and the K3 terminals.  

>From your readings, I can tell the voltage drop is not nearly as great as it 
>appeared by the K3 meter. Using the K3 readings, I have 0.5 volt lower than 
>you on key down, and that is acceptable. I should be able to correct that.

And yes, as you said, 'everything works just fine'.

Thanks much,
Rich, n0ce

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  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue, and a new question


  First of all, regarding a DC power distribution "strip": I used a RigRuner  
  4009 and found that there was
  a significant voltage drop from the power source (Astron RS-35M) to the K3. 
   Having taken measurements
  with a DVM, I concluded that the largest drop was from the distribution  
  strip to the K3. A simple solution
  was to power the K3 from the larger "main" wire pair that fed the  
  distribution strip.
   
  Then, to satisfy my own curiosity, I made the following meaurements today  
  using the DVM then I took readings with the internal K3 "meter":
   
  DVM measurements: 13.773 VDC at the RS-35 terminals
   13.735 VDC at K3 connector in RX mode
   13.599 VDC at K3 connector in TX-Tune mode 
  (10W out)
   12.860 VDC at K3 connector in TX mode 
  (100W out)
   
  K3 "meter" readings:  13.6 VDC in RX mode
  13.1  VDC in TX-Tune mode (10W out)
   12.4 VDC in TX mode (100W out)
   
  What's interesting is that the K3 "meter" current indication decreases with 
   time when I
  make the test in TX mode (100W out), starting at about 18.2 Amps or so,  
  then going down, down,
  down to 14.something when I let up on the hand key. I kept the key down  
  just 15 or 20 seconds,
  not wanting to tempt fate!!! Power output stayed at 100W throught the  
  procedure. H
   
  I'm satisfied with those readings: everything works just fine!
  Bert, N4CW
   
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Re: [Elecraft] W2 Wattmeter accuracy at low power

2012-12-26 Thread Robert Friess
The W2 cannot measure power in the 1-10mw range.

The sensors are calibrated at 144 and 460 MHz.  They will certainly work in
the 100-118MHz range but the accuracy is unknown.

Bob, N6CM

On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 1:47 PM, jeffrey741  wrote:

> I am looking for information regarding the accuracy of the W2 at low power.
> Does anyone know if the W2 can measure in the 1-10 mW range (assuming the
> reading are taken from the serial interface) for example with the 200W VHF
> sensor? Is the W2 accurate at these power levels? Also can the W2 (with VHF
> sensor) be used to measure below 144MHz with reasonable accuracy. I am
> guessing not but just wanted to see if anyone has explored using this meter
> to make measurements in the 100-118MHz range.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with a K3 screw - suggestions needed

2012-12-26 Thread Tony Estep
On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Fabio IZ4AFW / NZ1W wrote:

> ...2) now the screw head is damaged...

===
Fabio, I did this on my K3 the first day I got it. The solution provided by
the Elecraft service stars was to take off the side panel and take all the
other screws out of the little corner joiner. Then you can get the panel
off, and even if damaged the screw will come out of the joiner okay.

Tony KT0NY


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Re: [Elecraft] Problem with a K3 screw - suggestions needed

2012-12-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Fabio,

That screw in into a 2D connector.
You will be able to remove the front panel by removing the other 2 
screws in the 2D connector, and then you should be able to rotate the 2D 
connector body in a direction that will loosen the screw threads.  
Elecraft does have replacement screws.  You do not have to purchase the 
SS kit, just order by the part number listed in the assembly manual - 
you can order one or any multiple you want.


The proper size screwdriver is a #1 Phillips which should be available 
worldwide.  Do not use a worn Phillips screwdriver, it is certain to 
slip and strip out the screwhead.  If you have had trouble, I suggest 
you invest in a new screwdriver.


I use my #1 Phillips more than most in my Elecraft repair activities, 
but if I find my screwdriver does not firmly hold a screw when the 
screwdriver shaft is held horizontally, that tip is worn sufficiently 
that it should be replaced.  I do not want to strip out the screwheads 
on my customer's equipment.  In other words, do not use worn screwdriver 
tips and all should be well.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2012 5:46 PM, Fabio IZ4AFW / NZ1W wrote:

Hi guys,
   today I decided to try to apply a mod (Audio Low Pass filter) to my 
beloved K3.

My K3 was born in September, 2009 and I bought it factory assembled.
Up till now, I just added a couple of additional filters and the KV3A 
board; so, I never unassembled the front panel before.


Today I found that one of the upper front panel screws was probably 
overtightened (or defective).
I tried to unscrew the screw with several phillips screwdrivers 
(little and big), to no avail.

The side effect of my (unsuccessful) tentatives was that:
1) I was not able to unscrew the screw
2) now the screw head is damaged (see pic at 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/V1aTCoSq5qkgs3y-beE_DdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink)


I got to unassemble the front panel unscrewing a couple of screws 
more, but I'd like to solve this little problem (moreover, it's ugly).
Before going with some more destructive methods (I am thinking about 
drilling the screw??), I'd like to have some savy suggestion from the 
community...
Moreover, do you know if Elecraft has an additional screw kit 
available (I don't need the stainless steel ones)?


As a side note, I found that almost all the flat-head screws were very 
"soft" and damage-prone (differently from the other round-head screws).


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation

2012-12-26 Thread Dick Dievendorff
You can retune to a prior memory setting by sending a serial command, MT
; where  is the frequency in kHz.  

But as you note, it requires a serial connection. But if you're not counting
Tx frequency, you'd need some sort of connection to adjust the tuner...

73 de Dick, K6KR


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Larry Phipps
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 11:29 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation

I have been reading some of the KAT500 traffic and thought I'd weigh in with
my particular thoughts.

One reason to have the tuner follow the VFO is that I would like to use the
KAT500 for receive sometimes for SWL'ing or listening to BCB. In this case,
I can't transmit, so it would be nice to have the tuner track the VFO.

One option is to use the utility to manually select settings, but my
KAT500 is remoted at the base of my antenna in a waterproof box. A USB cable
of the required length is not feasible, but I am looking into using a
wireless USB extender for the task. I already have some wireless
RS232 serial extenders, but have never tried one for USB. The prices are all
over the place. Does anyone have any experience with these devices, with or
without the KAT500? Would they be safe for flashing firmware?

Even with the utility connected, though, there doesn't appear to be any easy
way to save setups based on names or frequencies. Maybe I've missed it since
I'm not using the utility.

73,
Larry N8LP



On 12/25/2012 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:54:36 -0800
> From: Wayne Burdick
> To: ab2tc
> Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation
>   (including auxBus tradeoffs)
> Message-ID:
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>
> So what we're talking about now is whether it would be worth sending 
> frequency data from the K3 to the KAT500--at the time of keying--over 
> either the auxBus or the RS232 port. The answer, IMHO, is no. In 
> either case it would take approximately the same amount of time to 
> send the data as it would for the KAT500 to do RF sensing of the VFO 
> frequency.
>
> If someone has a better idea or would like to explain their operating 
> scenario further, I'm all ears.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR


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[Elecraft] Problem with a K3 screw - suggestions needed

2012-12-26 Thread Fabio IZ4AFW / NZ1W

Hi guys,
   today I decided to try to apply a mod (Audio Low Pass filter) to my 
beloved K3.

My K3 was born in September, 2009 and I bought it factory assembled.
Up till now, I just added a couple of additional filters and the KV3A 
board; so, I never unassembled the front panel before.


Today I found that one of the upper front panel screws was probably 
overtightened (or defective).
I tried to unscrew the screw with several phillips screwdrivers (little 
and big), to no avail.

The side effect of my (unsuccessful) tentatives was that:
1) I was not able to unscrew the screw
2) now the screw head is damaged (see pic at 
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/V1aTCoSq5qkgs3y-beE_DdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink)


I got to unassemble the front panel unscrewing a couple of screws more, 
but I'd like to solve this little problem (moreover, it's ugly).
Before going with some more destructive methods (I am thinking about 
drilling the screw??), I'd like to have some savy suggestion from the 
community...
Moreover, do you know if Elecraft has an additional screw kit available 
(I don't need the stainless steel ones)?


As a side note, I found that almost all the flat-head screws were very 
"soft" and damage-prone (differently from the other round-head screws).


Thanks in advance for your suggestions,
73 Ciao
Fabio
 IZ4AFW - NZ1W - HI9/IZ4AFW
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[Elecraft] Price guesstimate on KXPA100

2012-12-26 Thread Geoff Allsup
Anybody got a guess how many pennies I need to save up for a KXPA100 for my 
KX3? Not sure I've seen this on the list.

geoff - W1OH

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Re: [Elecraft] PS for KX3

2012-12-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bill,

Sorry, but 16 volts is too high for the KX3.  The maximum voltage must 
be 15 volts or below.  The KX3 has internal excess voltage sensing and 
my shut down with a greater than 15 volt supply to protect itself.


Jeesh, how many do not read the specifications or choose to ignore them 
- the specs contain a wealth of information about the limits of things 
like voltage input.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2012 4:39 PM, Bill Harris wrote:

Who was looking for a small PS for his KX3?  Here is one from MPJ.  16 VDC at 
3+ amps.  You'll need a power cord and an adapter plug to fit the K's.  Hard to 
beat the price.

http://www.mpja.com/12-27-12.asp?r=358010&s=12

Later



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[Elecraft] W2 Wattmeter accuracy at low power

2012-12-26 Thread jeffrey741
I am looking for information regarding the accuracy of the W2 at low power.
Does anyone know if the W2 can measure in the 1-10 mW range (assuming the
reading are taken from the serial interface) for example with the 200W VHF
sensor? Is the W2 accurate at these power levels? Also can the W2 (with VHF
sensor) be used to measure below 144MHz with reasonable accuracy. I am
guessing not but just wanted to see if anyone has explored using this meter
to make measurements in the 100-118MHz range.



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Re: [Elecraft] K2 is sick?

2012-12-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Mike,

Is the problem restricted to receive?  If so (and if you have the K160RX 
installed), check to see if the RXANT menu is set to ON.


The other possibility is that you have either the K60XV option or the 
Rework Eliminators installed and you have the K2 secondary menu 
parameter for D19 set to "n".  If you do not have either of those 
conditions, it must be set to "n", but if either of those conditions are 
in place, it must be set to "y".


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2012 2:23 PM, Mike Baird wrote:

My trusty K2 (#5767) has just started acting up.  It seems to be fine on all
bands but 40M.  On that band,  the RX seems dead, and won't tune properly
with my KAT500.  It doesn't have the built in tuner.  The 100W amp is built
in.  Other bands show full output and normal RX.  Using my other radios have
ruled out any antenna problem.




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Re: Problem with firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Gary Gregory
Likewise here.

Win7, USB hub (4 port, powered by the laptop) connected to the K-Line and
numerous FW updates done over the years. I have been FT'ing on several
Elecraft products and I have been using both Prolific and FTDI USB chipset
devices again with no issues.

I do a configuration save prior to any updates as a matter of course and I
have also reverted to earlier FW versions, again with no conflicts or
'lockups' of the K-Line. EEINIT has to be a case of when ALL else has
failed then do that BUT the manual gives very clear instructions on how to
force a FW update without resorting to an EEINT. Best advice is to do a
Configuration Save prior to the update.

I think my experience here is the Norm rather than the exception and I see
no reason for anyone to have apprehensions regarding FW updates.

Remember too, when you do an update that is a much later version of the
current one residing in your K-Line that ALL subsequent changes and feature
add-ons ARE included in the latest FW updates we receive and to date the
only FW feature I am not using would be the P3 SVGA  as I don't intend to
install the SVGA card as it would serve no practical use for me being
portable all the time and not having any need for an external video screen
nor one to carry around separate. I rarely even turn on the TV these days
and use the K3 for listening on the BCB anyway.


73's
Gary

On 27 December 2012 08:09, Jack - WE5ST  wrote:

> I am not home and unable to quote brand and model info but I am
> successfully using a USB hub (2.0/3.0 ac powered) and an 8 port USB to
> serial hub connected to a Dell laptop running Win8.
> They have been working together perfectly for many months running K-Line,
> SteppIR controller, rotator and DXLabs.
> If anyone wants more info email direct and I will send it out later this
> week.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 26, 2012, at 12:54, Mike Rodgers 
> wrote:
>
> > Doing upgrades for the first time with a laptop is not for the faint of
> heart!!!
> > Regardless of being plugged in.
> >
> > It is suspected that some laptops like my Toshibi satellite are skimping
> on voltage. Some are using a outboard USB hub with external wal wart power.
> > I havnt got one of these but it's on the to buy list.
> >
> > If you use a laptop with success, good but I don't recommend using a
> laptop for the first time without a backup plan.
> >
> > 73
> > Mike R
> >
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[Elecraft] PS for KX3

2012-12-26 Thread Bill Harris
Who was looking for a small PS for his KX3?  Here is one from MPJ.  16 VDC at 
3+ amps.  You'll need a power cord and an adapter plug to fit the K's.  Hard to 
beat the price.

http://www.mpja.com/12-27-12.asp?r=358010&s=12

Later

de Bill-w7kxb . . 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3, A calibration question

2012-12-26 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Oh...yes. I measured mine at 3.710 MHz

Sent from my iPad
Chuck, KE9UW 
(Jack for BMW motorcycles)

On Dec 26, 2012, at 11:29 AM, "Paul Kirley"  wrote:

> N0CE asked:
>> My K3 shows 15.4 amps at key down in CW at 100 watts with a P3
> attached.  
>> A dummy load was used.
> 
>> How does that compare with your K3's, please?
> 
> Please be aware that the transmit current drawn by the K3 depends
> significantly on the band.  On some bands, my K3 draws upwards of 20
> amps.
> 
> 73, Paul W8TM
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Re: Problem with firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Jack - WE5ST
I am not home and unable to quote brand and model info but I am successfully 
using a USB hub (2.0/3.0 ac powered) and an 8 port USB to serial hub connected 
to a Dell laptop running Win8.
They have been working together perfectly for many months running K-Line, 
SteppIR controller, rotator and DXLabs.
If anyone wants more info email direct and I will send it out later this week. 

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 26, 2012, at 12:54, Mike Rodgers  wrote:

> Doing upgrades for the first time with a laptop is not for the faint of 
> heart!!!
> Regardless of being plugged in. 
> 
> It is suspected that some laptops like my Toshibi satellite are skimping on 
> voltage. Some are using a outboard USB hub with external wal wart power. 
> I havnt got one of these but it's on the to buy list. 
> 
> If you use a laptop with success, good but I don't recommend using a laptop 
> for the first time without a backup plan. 
> 
> 73
> Mike R
> 
> Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!
> 
> Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
> HF & Echolink mobile
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500: The Wisdom of the Tuner

2012-12-26 Thread Keith-K5ENS
Any autotuner would have done the same thing.

Keith, XE3/K5ENS



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation

2012-12-26 Thread Larry Phipps
I have been reading some of the KAT500 traffic and thought I'd weigh in 
with my particular thoughts.


One reason to have the tuner follow the VFO is that I would like to use 
the KAT500 for receive sometimes for SWL'ing or listening to BCB. In 
this case, I can't transmit, so it would be nice to have the tuner track 
the VFO.


One option is to use the utility to manually select settings, but my 
KAT500 is remoted at the base of my antenna in a waterproof box. A USB 
cable of the required length is not feasible, but I am looking into 
using a wireless USB extender for the task. I already have some wireless 
RS232 serial extenders, but have never tried one for USB. The prices are 
all over the place. Does anyone have any experience with these devices, 
with or without the KAT500? Would they be safe for flashing firmware?


Even with the utility connected, though, there doesn't appear to be any 
easy way to save setups based on names or frequencies. Maybe I've missed 
it since I'm not using the utility.


73,
Larry N8LP



On 12/25/2012 12:00 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:

Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:54:36 -0800
From: Wayne Burdick
To: ab2tc
Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KAT500 LC settings recall -- complete explanation
(including auxBus tradeoffs)
Message-ID:
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes


So what we're talking about now is whether it would be worth sending
frequency data from the K3 to the KAT500--at the time of keying--over
either the auxBus or the RS232 port. The answer, IMHO, is no. In
either case it would take approximately the same amount of time to
send the data as it would for the KAT500 to do RF sensing of the VFO
frequency.

If someone has a better idea or would like to explain their operating
scenario further, I'm all ears.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



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[Elecraft] K2 is sick?

2012-12-26 Thread Mike Baird
My trusty K2 (#5767) has just started acting up.  It seems to be fine on all
bands but 40M.  On that band,  the RX seems dead, and won't tune properly
with my KAT500.  It doesn't have the built in tuner.  The 100W amp is built
in.  Other bands show full output and normal RX.  Using my other radios have
ruled out any antenna problem.

 

Anyway, any advice would be appreciated.

 

--Mike, W0RSR

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[Elecraft] [K3] Re: Problem with firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Mike Rodgers
Doing upgrades for the first time with a laptop is not for the faint of heart!!!
Regardless of being plugged in. 

It is suspected that some laptops like my Toshibi satellite are skimping on 
voltage. Some are using a outboard USB hub with external wal wart power. 
I havnt got one of these but it's on the to buy list. 

If you use a laptop with success, good but I don't recommend using a laptop for 
the first time without a backup plan. 

73
Mike R

Play me some fiddle, but no stinkin' violin!

Amateur/Ham Radio KE5GBC
HF & Echolink mobile
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Key jack

2012-12-26 Thread D Joyce
Hi Craig:  The Key jack (J13) is 3 conductor but only the Tip and shell is 
used - there is no connection to the Ring.  (It is shown on page 3 of the 
Schematics - do a search for J13.)


73,   Doug   VE3MV

- Original Message - 
From: "Craig - AE6RR" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:27 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Key jack



I am using my K3/100 with the RemoteRig setup.  The RemoteRig Radio RRC has
a 1/8" or 3.5mm stereo connector for CW key out (straight key).  The cable
set came with a stereo 1/8" to 1/8" cable and a stereo 1/8" to 1/4" 
adaptor.

The 1/8" plug is a very loose fit in the adaptor and I am having
intermittent connection problems.

I am going to look for a better adaptor or make a 1/8" to 1/4" cable.

The question is, what kind of connector does the K3 have for key input 
(not

paddle)?  Is it a 3-conductor connector (stereo) or a 2-conductor (mono)
connector?

Happy New Year & 73,

Craig, AE6RR

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[Elecraft] [K3] Re: New Output Power Questions

2012-12-26 Thread Mike Rodgers
Everything you add on the 13.8v line is likely to cause a problem at some point 
in time. My k3 came with no fuses on the power cord with same explanation. 

If your going to use fuses, use the oversize car stereo variety for more 
contact area. Gold plated ones available as well. Even Wal Mart has them now.  

When Lan reported the issue, nothing was said that I recall about a power 
distribution panel. Some of those panels have a fuse for every output. That's a 
nice feature but also a place for problems. 

To each his own but I run straight to the  power supply. I also use a primitive 
power distribution for other 12v devices using some nice stackable banana plugs 
that are gold plated that cinch down down even a heavy gauge wire. 
They are a little pricey at Radio Shack but I like them. 

73
Mike R

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[Elecraft] K3 Key jack

2012-12-26 Thread Craig - AE6RR
I am using my K3/100 with the RemoteRig setup.  The RemoteRig Radio RRC has
a 1/8" or 3.5mm stereo connector for CW key out (straight key).  The cable
set came with a stereo 1/8" to 1/8" cable and a stereo 1/8" to 1/4" adaptor.
The 1/8" plug is a very loose fit in the adaptor and I am having
intermittent connection problems.

I am going to look for a better adaptor or make a 1/8" to 1/4" cable.

The question is, what kind of connector does the K3 have for key input (not
paddle)?  Is it a 3-conductor connector (stereo) or a 2-conductor (mono)
connector?

Happy New Year & 73,

Craig, AE6RR

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Re: [Elecraft] New Output Power Issue, and a new question

2012-12-26 Thread N4CW
First of all, regarding a DC power distribution "strip": I used a RigRuner  
4009 and found that there was
a significant voltage drop from the power source (Astron RS-35M) to the K3. 
 Having taken measurements
with a DVM, I concluded that the largest drop was from the distribution  
strip to the K3. A simple solution
was to power the K3 from the larger "main" wire pair that fed the  
distribution strip.
 
Then, to satisfy my own curiosity, I made the following meaurements today  
using the DVM then I took readings with the internal K3 "meter":
 
DVM measurements: 13.773 VDC at the RS-35 terminals
 13.735 VDC at K3 connector in RX mode
 13.599 VDC at K3 connector in TX-Tune mode 
(10W out)
 12.860 VDC at K3 connector in TX mode 
(100W out)
 
K3 "meter" readings:  13.6 VDC in RX mode
13.1  VDC in TX-Tune mode (10W out)
 12.4 VDC in TX mode (100W out)
 
What's interesting is that the K3 "meter" current indication decreases with 
 time when I
make the test in TX mode (100W out), starting at about 18.2 Amps or so,  
then going down, down,
down to 14.something when I let up on the hand key. I kept the key down  
just 15 or 20 seconds,
not wanting to tempt fate!!! Power output stayed at 100W throught the  
procedure. H
 
I'm satisfied with those readings: everything works just fine!
Bert, N4CW
 
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[Elecraft] K3, A calibration question

2012-12-26 Thread Paul Kirley
N0CE asked:
>  My K3 shows 15.4 amps at key down in CW at 100 watts with a P3
attached.  
>  A dummy load was used.

>  How does that compare with your K3's, please?

Please be aware that the transmit current drawn by the K3 depends
significantly on the band.  On some bands, my K3 draws upwards of 20
amps.

73, Paul W8TM

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-26 Thread John Shaw
Yes Igor that's the one I knew could be done. 

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Sent: Thursday, 27 December 2012 01:48
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

Expert 1K-FA can eavesdrop on the connection between the PC and K3 and
change setting of Expert's antenna tuner depending on frequency prior to TX.
Microham keyers can also " listen"  to responses of K3 being polled by
logging program. When no polling from logger occurs, Microham starts polling
the radio itself.
I agree with Keith, KAT500 could have been smarter and change setting prior
to TX.
Actually Expert also measures the frequency and compare it with data
received from CAT. Nothing happens if both coincide. If not - measured
frequency has priority. Very clever.

73, Igor UA9CDC


> On 12/25/2012 7:06 PM, Keith-K5ENS wrote:
>> We're talking adding features for the K line. Not removing any.
>
> You're missing something. The limitation is the hardware design of the 
> K3, and there's nothing the KAT designer could have done about that 
> (or could do now).  We are stuck with that.  IMO, the KAT500 
> implementation is awfully close to ideal based on those limitations.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] KAT500: The Wisdom of the Tuner

2012-12-26 Thread John K3TN
I'm enjoying the discussion about could the KAT500 be smarter and know when
the K3 has changed frequencies. Over the weekend, I had an example of the
KAt500 being much smarter than its operator:

This past weekend we had very high winds and some rain - perfect excuse to
play radio. I went down to the shack, made a few QSOs on CW. Then QSYed to
12m phone and the KAT500 needed to Tune. I had gone through all bands on CW
and SSB and done a manual tune, so I was suprised.

QSYed to 15 a bit later and found the same thing - the KAT500 had to retune
for high SWR. Tried 10m, same thing. 30M seemed OK. But it seemed like the
KAT500 had forgotten all the pre-tuned settings other than on 30M.

Grumbled, went through and manually pretuned all, could QSY and all worked.
Didn't work anyone else, shut down the gear.

Later that day went in the back yard to pick up limbs that the wind had
knocked down and saw that one side of my OCF dipole had come down! That is
why the KAT500 had retuned. I repaired the antenna, went through and retuned
again...

So, I would like to see the KAT500 get smarter about the K3 freq, but from
know on when it unexpectedly needs to retune I will not question it and will
head out to the backyard to repair the antenna...

73 John K3TN



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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Rob May

I've done dozens of beta firmware updates and never had a problem.  My K3 is 
over 4 years old (s/n 1417). I've also never had a problem loading firmware 
onto the P3, KPA3 or KX3.  I've used Windows XP Pro, Win 7 Pro, prolific 
chipsets, fltd chipsets and some unknown chipset in the Triplite/Keyspan 
USB/Serial adapter I have now.  Firmware loading problems are the exception, 
not the rule.
Rob
NV5E


> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 08:17:02 -0500
> From: b...@w2blc.net
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3
>
> I have extensive notes on every setting I have ever tried/tried and kept
> on the K3. The information is at hand - if needed. I also have real
> serial ports on my computer - an inexpensive sure-fix elimination of the
> USB converter problem. That said, with all the problems I see here - it
> does not encourage me to upgrade the firmware.
>
> I wonder what percentage of K3 owners do firmware upgrades with no
> problem - compared to those having difficulties.
>
> Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread George Danner
I  have done almost every update to my Elecraft equipment; usually within a 
couple of days after the beta release. I have never had a pronlem with the 
update nor ever rolled back!
I use a generic Prolific USB serial interface through my P3 (except early in 
the P3's life).
I have never had an issue updating SN#2412!
73 Happy New Year
George
AI4VZ

Mike K2MK  wrote:

>Hi Bill,
>
>I think there's over 7000 K3s out there. There's really only a handful of
>folks writing in about firmware load problems but then there are dozens of
>replies and meanderings from that one posting. This makes the situation look
>worse than it is.
>
>Good sense is required as with everything else. The need for a EEINIT is
>probably never required if the recovery steps followed in the K3 Utility
>Help File are followed. Cancellation of downloads mid-process always causes
>difficulties. Using laptops on battery only has been stated as problematic.
>Not having a configuration backup has been stressed. So with this
>information available there should be no reason to shy away from future
>downloads.
>
>73,
>Mike K2MK
>
>
>Bill Clarke wrote
>> Reading about the problems involving upgrading the firmware, resets, 
>> calibrations, etc. - makes me think that I won't be "upgrading" here. My 
>> K3 is running just fine - so why would I want to mess with it?
>> 
>> Bill W2BLC
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Fred C. Jensen
I save a configuration reset point just /before/ loading new firmware since, 
despite writing changes to the last reset point in my notebook, I always manage 
to forget one or two.  Admittedly, this results in 2 classes of reset points on 
the computer, "before" and "after".  My K3 is s/n 642.  Early on, I applied all 
FW updates.  Now, I read the Release Notes first and apply those that do 
something that affects me.  Hence, I don't have that many reset points to 
manage.

Happy New Year to all,

Fred K6DGW
TXT in Sparks NV
(Test msg from my new Kindle Fire ND)

Don Wilhelm  wrote:

>Bill and all,
>
>I have done many firmware upgrades to my K3 as a firmware field tester 
>than have many other users.  I only once had a problem because I 
>interrupted the process - so that was my fault.  Following the 
>instructions (in both the manual and K3 Utility help file) to force a 
>firmware download provided quick and easy relief.  No need for an EEINIT.
>
>Yes, if you choose to do an EEINIT, know that you will have to set all 
>the menu parameters and do the calibration steps again.  If you have 
>saved a configuration file, that is a snap to accomplish, just use K3 
>Utility to restore that configuration.  If you do not have a saved 
>configuration file, then the process is manual and laborious.
>
>Bottom line - save a configuration.  You might want to do that after 
>each firmware upgrade.  In most cases, that is a "just in case" file 
>(like a backup of your computer files), and will never be used.
>
>Keep your K3 firmware up to date.  99.9% of the time there will be no 
>complications.  It is only the remaining few that we hear about on this 
>reflector.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>On 12/26/2012 7:39 AM, Bill Clarke wrote:
>> Reading about the problems involving upgrading the firmware, resets, 
>> calibrations, etc. - makes me think that I won't be "upgrading" here. 
>> My K3 is running just fine - so why would I want to mess with it?
>>
>> Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread david Moes
You only hear of the failures here, thats what the forum is about.   If 
you think of the thousands of K3 and the many upgrades that have been 
done  on each the failures posted here are a small fraction of a 
percentage compared to the successfull upgrades.   Those that have 
problems get it going based on advice here or from the great support 
from Elecraft.


I too use a "real" serial port   and have never had issues.   I only 
have the K3 conected when upgrading and turn off any virtual serial port 
emulatiors before an upgrade/downgrade.   that said if you are using a 
USB to serial and it is working fine with the K3 for normal use I am 
sure it will be fine.


As a caution I don't do it the day of a contest or when I plan to play 
marathon DX.  If you Brick the K3 you can reset it and try again 
then restore the configuration that you backed up before the upgrade.
I have never had to do that.   If you have a failure post here  and the 
answer to your woes will be most often answered in quick time.


in other words don't worry about doing upgrades.   They will work fine 
as long as you take the appropriate precautions



Dave VE3DVY


On 12/26/2012 8:17 AM, Bill Clarke wrote:
I have extensive notes on every setting I have ever tried/tried and 
kept on the K3. The information is at hand - if needed. I also have 
real serial ports on my computer - an inexpensive sure-fix elimination 
of the USB converter problem. That said, with all the problems I see 
here - it does not encourage me to upgrade the firmware.


I wonder what percentage of K3 owners do firmware upgrades with no 
problem - compared to those having difficulties.


Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Mike Harris
Never had a problem.  Real RS232 port on the PC, however, my early KUSB 
(Prolific) also works perfectly on my Win7/64 system.


I now normally sit back for a couple of days to let the eager beavers 
discover the warts that the field testers miss, often within about 30 
minutes!  Done my share of roll back on firmware.


Regards,

Mike VP8NO


Bill Clarke wrote

Reading about the problems involving upgrading the firmware, resets,
calibrations, etc. - makes me think that I won't be "upgrading" here. My
K3 is running just fine - so why would I want to mess with it?

Bill W2BLC

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Re: [Elecraft] K3, A calibration question

2012-12-26 Thread ke9uw
At 100 watts according to the K3, with 12.6 vdc (drops down from 13.8 vdc
with key down CW) I get 19.5 adc according to the Hamsource EZ-meter.



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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Bill,

I think there's over 7000 K3s out there. There's really only a handful of
folks writing in about firmware load problems but then there are dozens of
replies and meanderings from that one posting. This makes the situation look
worse than it is.

Good sense is required as with everything else. The need for a EEINIT is
probably never required if the recovery steps followed in the K3 Utility
Help File are followed. Cancellation of downloads mid-process always causes
difficulties. Using laptops on battery only has been stated as problematic.
Not having a configuration backup has been stressed. So with this
information available there should be no reason to shy away from future
downloads.

73,
Mike K2MK


Bill Clarke wrote
> Reading about the problems involving upgrading the firmware, resets, 
> calibrations, etc. - makes me think that I won't be "upgrading" here. My 
> K3 is running just fine - so why would I want to mess with it?
> 
> Bill W2BLC





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Re: [Elecraft] K2 #7340 PreAmp Problem

2012-12-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Ray,

It is great to hear that you now have it working properly.  Good find.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2012 6:30 AM, Ray Spreadbury wrote:

Hi Don

I did a check on the voltage divider resisters as you suggested & found that
R75 read 82 ohms rather than the expected 680 ohms! I had accidentally put
in an 82 ohm resister (R94! From the buffer circuit) and put the R75 680 ohm
resister in the R94 position - they are consecutively fitted on page 59 on
the bottom of the board and whilst I check the resistance before fitting I
must have mixed them up!

I switched them round and the PreAmp now works as it should. The dc volts
are now E 1.51vdc, B 2.22vdc & C 12.89vdc.

Thank you so much for your help Don, and I feel I've really learnt something
as well!

73 Ray G3XLG




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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread MontyS
Like most things, there is a learning curve at work.  The first time one 
tries to upgrade, he might pick the wrong version, or inadvertently 
interrupt the process, or a myriad other goofs.  That's why it is important 
to do a backup before trying that first time.


I now think nothing of initiating an upgrade, and have had no (zero) 
problems for years.


I am reminded of my mother-in-law who kept meticulous records of her 
individual investments after my father-in-law died.  She recorded everything 
in 3 places.  Her checkbook was double entry, because that was the way one 
kept books.  However, she had no idea of her annual income, outflow, or net 
worth.  She needed an accountant - an experienced, knowledgeable adviser.


Regarding the K3, there is an abundance of such knowledge here that can be 
trusted.


Monty K2DLJ K3 #699

I have extensive notes on every setting I have ever tried/tried and kept
on the K3. The information is at hand - if needed. I also have real
serial ports on my computer - an inexpensive sure-fix elimination of the
USB converter problem. That said, with all the problems I see here - it
does not encourage me to upgrade the firmware.After upgrading once or twice, 
the routine becomes very easy.


I wonder what percentage of K3 owners do firmware upgrades with no
problem - compared to those having difficulties.

Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Don Wilhelm

Bill and all,

I have done many firmware upgrades to my K3 as a firmware field tester 
than have many other users.  I only once had a problem because I 
interrupted the process - so that was my fault.  Following the 
instructions (in both the manual and K3 Utility help file) to force a 
firmware download provided quick and easy relief.  No need for an EEINIT.


Yes, if you choose to do an EEINIT, know that you will have to set all 
the menu parameters and do the calibration steps again.  If you have 
saved a configuration file, that is a snap to accomplish, just use K3 
Utility to restore that configuration.  If you do not have a saved 
configuration file, then the process is manual and laborious.


Bottom line - save a configuration.  You might want to do that after 
each firmware upgrade.  In most cases, that is a "just in case" file 
(like a backup of your computer files), and will never be used.


Keep your K3 firmware up to date.  99.9% of the time there will be no 
complications.  It is only the remaining few that we hear about on this 
reflector.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/26/2012 7:39 AM, Bill Clarke wrote:
Reading about the problems involving upgrading the firmware, resets, 
calibrations, etc. - makes me think that I won't be "upgrading" here. 
My K3 is running just fine - so why would I want to mess with it?


Bill W2BLC


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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Bill Clarke
I have extensive notes on every setting I have ever tried/tried and kept 
on the K3. The information is at hand - if needed. I also have real 
serial ports on my computer - an inexpensive sure-fix elimination of the 
USB converter problem. That said, with all the problems I see here - it 
does not encourage me to upgrade the firmware.


I wonder what percentage of K3 owners do firmware upgrades with no 
problem - compared to those having difficulties.


Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Randy Moore
I've done 15-20 hardware upgrades to my K3 and several friends K3's and have 
never had a problem. Being familiar with the existing configuration and 
documentation, and following instructions carefully has worked fine for me. 

73,
Randy, KS4L

On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:39 AM, Bill Clarke  wrote:

> Reading about the problems involving upgrading the firmware, resets, 
> calibrations, etc. - makes me think that I won't be "upgrading" here. My K3 
> is running just fine - so why would I want to mess with it?
> 
> Bill W2BLC
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 a good tuner or great tuner

2012-12-26 Thread Igor Sokolov
Expert 1K-FA can eavesdrop on the connection between the PC and K3 and 
change setting of Expert's antenna tuner depending on frequency prior to TX.
Microham keyers can also " listen"  to responses of K3 being polled by 
logging program. When no polling from logger occurs, Microham starts polling 
the radio itself.
I agree with Keith, KAT500 could have been smarter and change setting prior 
to TX.
Actually Expert also measures the frequency and compare it with data 
received from CAT. Nothing happens if both coincide. If not - measured 
frequency has priority. Very clever.


73, Igor UA9CDC



On 12/25/2012 7:06 PM, Keith-K5ENS wrote:

We're talking adding features for the K line. Not removing any.


You're missing something. The limitation is the hardware design of the K3, 
and there's nothing the KAT designer could have done about that (or could 
do now).  We are stuck with that.  IMO, the KAT500 implementation is 
awfully close to ideal based on those limitations.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Bill Clarke
Reading about the problems involving upgrading the firmware, resets, 
calibrations, etc. - makes me think that I won't be "upgrading" here. My 
K3 is running just fine - so why would I want to mess with it?


Bill W2BLC


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 #7340 PreAmp Problem

2012-12-26 Thread Ray Spreadbury
Hi Don

I did a check on the voltage divider resisters as you suggested & found that
R75 read 82 ohms rather than the expected 680 ohms! I had accidentally put
in an 82 ohm resister (R94! From the buffer circuit) and put the R75 680 ohm
resister in the R94 position - they are consecutively fitted on page 59 on
the bottom of the board and whilst I check the resistance before fitting I
must have mixed them up!

I switched them round and the PreAmp now works as it should. The dc volts
are now E 1.51vdc, B 2.22vdc & C 12.89vdc.

Thank you so much for your help Don, and I feel I've really learnt something
as well!

73 Ray G3XLG

-Original Message-
From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:d...@w3fpr.com] 
Sent: 25 December 2012 16:48
To: Ray Spreadbury
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 #7340 PreAmp Problem

Ray,

I would say that Q21 does not have adequate base voltage for it to conduct.
The base voltage should be about 2.3 volts.
Check R72 and R73 and C143 for good soldering and correct values. Check
R75 on the bottom as well.
The base voltage is set by the voltage divider consisting of R72 and R73 and
R75.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 12/25/2012 11:28 AM, Ray Spreadbury wrote:
> Hi Don
>
> Thank you for your reply.
> I visually checked the components in the preamp circuit & reflowed the 
> solder of them all including the relay, T6 & Q21, but still got the 
> same results as before. The coil T6 wires have been put in the correct 
> holes but I can't check the wires were tinned correctly without 
> removing it but I think they were.
>
> However, I did a dc voltage check on the transistor Q21 & found some
> anomalies- the E,B & C should be 1.6vdc, 2.3vdc & 13.3vdc but with the 
> PreAmp OFF they are E 0.00vdc, B 0.00vdc & C 13.36vdc. With the PreAmp 
> switched on, they are E 0.00vdc, B 0.33vdc & C 13.17vdc. (For 
> completeness I checked them with the Attenuator switched on & they 
> were the same as with the PreAmp switched off.)
>
> Does it look to you as though the transistor Q21, a 2N5109 is faulty?
>
> Regards
> Ray
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:w3...@embarqmail.com]
> Sent: 24 December 2012 21:38
> To: Ray Spreadbury
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2 #7340 PreAmp Problem
>
> Ray,
>
> Check every component in the Pre-Amp circuit, including the relay.
>
> Do you have the leads of T6 well stripped and tinned?  If so, check to 
> see that the leads are in the correct holes.
> After that look critically at the solder pads for those components 
> around the preamp circuit - look at the schematic sheet 2 to identify 
> those components.  You should see the solder flow out to an almost 
> invisible edge on both the solder pad and the component lead.  It has 
> been said that the esolder connection should look like a mountain, but 
> not a volcano - if there is a ring around the lead or you do not have 
> concave solder fillets, not enough heat was applied to the connection.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Dick Dievendorff
After parameter initialization you will need to perform the configuration
steps starting on page 46 and calibration steps starting on page 49 of the
Owner's manual and review the menu entries starting on page 52 to enable
options (such as your K144XV). Also consult the installation manuals for the
options you have installed (KBPF3, etc) for their enable procedure.  Often
it's obvious how to enable "optional modules" from the list of K3 menu
entries described on page 52.

You'll need to know what crystal filters you have physically installed in
each slot and the offsets of any 5-pole filters.

This is the sort of information that might have been restored if you had a
saved configuration file.

73 de Dick, K6KR



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Rudi
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 1:59 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

Hello FM,

I did a hard reset: push shift and power on.

After I was successful to upload the K3 firmware now, the dsp1 loaded up.

But have following problems.

Strange noise when I start up the K3.

On bands 24/28/50 I have error PL1

The Main and Config menu are not the same as described in the manual.

Several options that are installed are not activated like my XV144, general
RX, etc

What will I find next ?

I think I need a configuration file, didn't save mine ;((

Info to solve the problem is welcome

Best 73 - Rudi - ON7CL
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[Elecraft] Problem Firmware and K3

2012-12-26 Thread Rudi
Hello FM,

I did a hard reset: push shift and power on.

After I was successful to upload the K3 firmware now, the dsp1 loaded up.

But have following problems.

Strange noise when I start up the K3.

On bands 24/28/50 I have error PL1

The Main and Config menu are not the same as described in the manual.

Several options that are installed are not activated like my XV144, general
RX, etc

What will I find next ?

I think I need a configuration file, didn't save mine ;((

Info to solve the problem is welcome

Best 73 - Rudi - ON7CL
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