Re: [Elecraft] psk-31 programs for K3 and KX3

[K5HM]

Chris,
I use both FLDIGI and Digipan with my K3 without issues, along with a
Signalink USB soundcard,Fldigi mostly when I'm contesting with N1MM
Logger and Digipan otherwise.  

I'm using HRD 5.24 for logging now but don't use DM780.  

73,
Ron, K5HM
k5hm@gmail.com
www.qrz.com/db/k5hm
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I also use HRD / DM780. It works fine for me. Initially, v6 was a little
shaky but they've smoothed it out pretty well. I use it more now than I did
with my FT-857D.

I hope Keith is right and they incorporate WSJT into it. I've been using
that mode a lot lately.

Chris
AB3QV


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:

> I guess my request was buried too much in a recent reply on another topic.
>
> I have used Digipan in the past but understand HRD and Filidigi (sp?) can
> do psk-31.  Any comments or preferences for modern sw that will do psk-31
> from a computer?
>
> I have two applications:
> 1)  K3 with Dell 2.33 duo-core, XP32 SP3 which is currently connected with
> Elecraft USB/RS232 cable and emu0202 soundcard.
> 2) KX3 with Dell laptop which is being upgraded to win-8 pro from Vista.
>  I will build an interface to the laptop soundcard and use the KX3-USB
> cable.
>
> I am planning to have the KX3 ready for psk-31 (QRP-battery run) for FD.
>
> thanks,
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmitter gain calibration fails due high SWR

[peterc281]

Murphy strikes again!

I changed the cable and used a 50 ohm load and all good, looks like the
cable was duff!!

Cheers Peter 3IJ




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[Elecraft] K3 SSB Settings - First time for voice

[KC6CNN]

I purchased K3 Serial #6294 over a year ago. I was all into digital modes. I
still am, but have been playing with voice the last two days. Can someone
suggest good settings for me. Between Shift, Width, lo and hi cut, nb level,
nr adj, dsp. I have played with them all. Guess I am not real familiar with
voice anymore. I set the nr adj but it gets a "woo woo" sound. lol best way
to explain it. hihi DSP T settings don't seem to do anything. nb not much
effect. hi low cut understandable. but width I can get it all the way down
to a ringing sound.  Any settings or suggestions would be appreciated. 
Thanks
Gerald




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K3 # 6254
KX3 # 757
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Re: [Elecraft] psk-31 programs for K3 and KX3

[Chris Schrecengost]

I also use HRD / DM780. It works fine for me. Initially, v6 was a little
shaky but they've smoothed it out pretty well. I use it more now than I did
with my FT-857D.

I hope Keith is right and they incorporate WSJT into it. I've been using
that mode a lot lately.

Chris
AB3QV


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:

> I guess my request was buried too much in a recent reply on another topic.
>
> I have used Digipan in the past but understand HRD and Filidigi (sp?) can
> do psk-31.  Any comments or preferences for modern sw that will do psk-31
> from a computer?
>
> I have two applications:
> 1)  K3 with Dell 2.33 duo-core, XP32 SP3 which is currently connected with
> Elecraft USB/RS232 cable and emu0202 soundcard.
> 2) KX3 with Dell laptop which is being upgraded to win-8 pro from Vista.
>  I will build an interface to the laptop soundcard and use the KX3-USB
> cable.
>
> I am planning to have the KX3 ready for psk-31 (QRP-battery run) for FD.
>
> thanks,
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmitter gain calibration fails due high SWR

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> Also make sure your KAT3 ATU is bypassed.

Reset your ATU into a 50 Ohm load before selecting bypass.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/23/2013 8:17 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

TX Gain CAL should be run when transmitting into a 50 ohm dummy load.
Also make sure your KAT3 ATU is bypassed.

73,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 5/23/2013 4:36 PM, peterc281 wrote:

I decided to run through the calibration of my K3 after it came back
from the
VK9NT Dxpo. I find I can’t complete the transmit gain calibration as
the SWR
is to high on some bands.
1.8 to 10.1 are fine, the rest are as follows 14.1 is 1.5:1, 18.1 1.8:1,
21.1 2.7:1, 24.9 2.2:1, 28.4 2.4:1, 50.1 1.3:1.
I’m after suggestions what to look for as I am not sure what could cause
this problem.

73 Peter VK3IJ



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[Elecraft] KX3 questions

[Allen Bush]

Greetings:  I just subscribed although I've been an Elecraft customer for a 
long time (K1, K2 with all accessories, etc). I built a KX3 over the Christmas 
holidays and am just now getting a chance to use it.  2 questions. Is it 
normal to have noise that is "tuneable"  especially across 40 meters?  (that is 
is is frequency specific with the antenna DISCONNECTED)?  It raises the 
s-meter one or 2 units when tuning.. This is NOT noise from the local area.    
Also, my unit seems to be "microphonic" in that if I lightly tap the case a LOT 
of crackling comes from the speaker.  This seems to get much worse if I don't 
have the case screws tight.  I am a very experienced builder and Motorola bench 
tech so am not new to RF.  Any help would be appreciated.  THANKS!  Allen, W0OUU
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmitter gain calibration fails due high SWR

[Dick Dievendorff]

Tx gain cal should succeed as long as the SWR does not exceed 2.0:1. Can you 
turn on trace on the view menu and send me a trace of the failing calibration. 

Dick, K6KR


On May 23, 2013, at 16:36, peterc281  wrote:

> I decided to run through the calibration of my K3 after it came back from the
> VK9NT Dxpo. I find I can’t complete the transmit gain calibration as the SWR
> is to high on some bands.
> 1.8 to 10.1 are fine, the rest are as follows 14.1 is 1.5:1, 18.1 1.8:1,
> 21.1 2.7:1, 24.9 2.2:1, 28.4 2.4:1, 50.1 1.3:1.
> I’m after suggestions what to look for as I am not sure what could cause
> this problem.
> 
> 73 Peter VK3IJ
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Our KUSB and KXUSB adapters use the FTDI chip set.

73,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 5/23/2013 2:39 PM, Peter Lambert wrote:

If you are using USB to serial gizmo get a genuine FTDI one (you can buy
them from digikey).  I've had lots of strange issues with serial SW since
"real" serial ports disappeared.  They all ended up being dodgy drivers for
the cheapy serial things.  The FTDI USB devices have 100% fixed these
problems.

Peter  VK4JD

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Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 8:19 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility (v1.13.4.29),
I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new FW.  It gets about
1/2-way through the DSP update and quits.  I only tried once, it quits at
roughly the same spot as in the past.

I've heard all the "it works fine here" responses so I realize the program
works.  It just doesn't work for me.

Uncle!  I give up - Boot-camping into Windows.

73,
Joel - W4JBB


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 transmitter gain calibration fails due high SWR

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

TX Gain CAL should be run when transmitting into a 50 ohm dummy load. 
Also make sure your KAT3 ATU is bypassed.


73,

Eric
elecraft.com

On 5/23/2013 4:36 PM, peterc281 wrote:

I decided to run through the calibration of my K3 after it came back from the
VK9NT Dxpo. I find I can’t complete the transmit gain calibration as the SWR
is to high on some bands.
1.8 to 10.1 are fine, the rest are as follows 14.1 is 1.5:1, 18.1 1.8:1,
21.1 2.7:1, 24.9 2.2:1, 28.4 2.4:1, 50.1 1.3:1.
I’m after suggestions what to look for as I am not sure what could cause
this problem.

73 Peter VK3IJ



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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[Fred Jensen]

On 5/23/2013 3:19 PM, Joel Black wrote:


Trying to load both, one right after the other, I watched my free memory
drop to 1.31GB and then the app just quit.


The Apollo Guidance Computer, which got us to the moon multiple times, 
had 36 kilowords of program ROM [literally hard *wired* core memory], 
and 2 kilowords of volatile core memory, all 16 bit words [15 
data+parity no floating point], and it did "rocket science calcs" all 
the way to the moon and back.


The Win 7 machine I send on here has 8 GB of RAM and one terabyte of 
disk spread over two 500 GB drives.  Admittedly, it has a somewhat more 
visually appealing user interface than the DSKY the astronauts used, and 
it handles the Internet very nicely, something that was just being 
invented at the end of the 60's, but I really do wonder where all the 
memory has gone.  I wonder sometimes, not often, what Windows and the 
applications do with all of it.


Salesman in the Sprint store was regaling me with the amount of memory 
in the various phones he wanted to sell me.  I was sort of still at, 
"They have HOW much memory?"  I don't know what the various Elecraft 
radios and accessories have, I do know that new features come out 
periodically and none of the old ones go away, so apparently they 
designed in some "mission creep."


73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2013 Cal QSO Party 5-6 Oct 2013
- www.cqp.org



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[Elecraft] K3 transmitter gain calibration fails due high SWR

[peterc281]

I decided to run through the calibration of my K3 after it came back from the
VK9NT Dxpo. I find I can’t complete the transmit gain calibration as the SWR
is to high on some bands.
1.8 to 10.1 are fine, the rest are as follows 14.1 is 1.5:1, 18.1 1.8:1,
21.1 2.7:1, 24.9 2.2:1, 28.4 2.4:1, 50.1 1.3:1.
I’m after suggestions what to look for as I am not sure what could cause
this problem.

73 Peter VK3IJ



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[Elecraft] CW DAY

[Scott W2NTV]

Happy Morse Code Anniversary Day! Friday, 24 May. What indeed hath G-d 
wrought? (What the hell does that mean anyway?)

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[Walter Underwood]

It also won't get events to come back to the top. If you put another app on top 
of it during the download, then click the dock icon, it won't pop to the top. 
No biggy, but might be related.

wunder
K6WRU

On May 23, 2013, at 4:01 PM, NZ9E wrote:

> Joel,
> 
> Thanks for the reminder, I forgot about that.  It might be a clue to fix the
> problem; I'll add the "not responding" observation to my bug report to
> Elecraft.
> 
> Apparently the app is in so tight a loop, pushing code to the KX3, that the
> app isn't sending the "I'm still alive" message to the OS.
> 
> 73
> Bob NZ9E
> 
> 
> W4JBB wrote
>> Ironically, the activity monitor showed the app not responding both 
>> times although it was clearly responding.
> 
> 




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[NZ9E]

Joel,

Thanks for the reminder, I forgot about that.  It might be a clue to fix the
problem; I'll add the "not responding" observation to my bug report to
Elecraft.

Apparently the app is in so tight a loop, pushing code to the KX3, that the
app isn't sending the "I'm still alive" message to the OS.

73
Bob NZ9E


W4JBB wrote
> Ironically, the activity monitor showed the app not responding both 
> times although it was clearly responding.





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Bill Conkling]

My computer has stero lineIn, but mono mic.  I found that the iMIC worked
great for this use.  I originally got it for the iPAD, but works with the PC
as well.

...bill  nr4c

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To: KM4VX
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

Ron,

Try using the Mic In on your soundcard.  The I/Q signal levels are 
rather low.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2013 4:27 PM, KM4VX wrote:
> Must be some interest in the topic!!  I have a line connected from the I/Q
> output of the KX3 (with the menu ON) into my PC sound card, line in.
Nothing
> happens using the HDSDR software on the waterfall although I can control
the
> KX3. Not receiving signals, just noise. Question: What sound cards are
> people finding useful? My generic Realistic PC sound card is apparently
> inadequate. The Creative Labs E MU0202 which is popular seems out of stock
> most places. While I would prefer a P3 setup, that doesn't look like its
> going to happen so I would like to abuse my PC a bit  and try out what is
> available now. Thanks
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[Joel Black]

Bob,

Loading MCU, stopping the app, restarting the app, and loading the DSP 
code fixed my issue.


Trying to load both, one right after the other, I watched my free memory 
drop to 1.31GB and then the app just quit.


Ironically, the activity monitor showed the app not responding both 
times although it was clearly responding.


Thanks,
Joel - W4JBB

On 5/23/13 1:22 PM, NZ9E wrote:

Joel,

I've noticed an apparent memory leak in the Mac KX3 Utility app.  After the
leak hits some critical threshold, the app crashes on me.  My apologies to
Elecraft for not yet submitting a bug report.

To check if this is your problem:  open the Apple Mac app "Activity Monitor"
and click the "System Memory" tab.  Then choose "Windowed Processes" from
the menu to make it easier to find the "Elecraft KX3 Utility" process in the
list.  Now run the KX3 Utility and start the firmware download.  Watch the
free memory (green in pie chart); if it's dropping like the gas gauge in an
SUV, and if the Real and Virtual Memory numbers for the KX3 Utility process
are rising, then you would seem to be on the right track.

My workaround:  I have 8 GB of (real) memory, which is high enough that I
don't always get into trouble.  Sometimes quitting other memory-hoggish Mac
apps helps, but mainly I download firmware into my KX3 only with a fresh
instance of the KX3 Utility.  E.g., if I download the KX3 microprocessor
code (successfully), then start downloading the DSP code without quitting
and relaunching the KX3 Utility app, it usually crashes.  So launch KX3
utility, download microprocessor code, quit KX3 utility, launch KX3 utility,
download DSP code, quit KX3 utility.

73,
Bob NZ9E


W4JBB wrote

This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility
(v1.13.4.29), I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new
FW.  It gets about 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits.  I only
tried once, it quits at roughly the same spot as in the past.





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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[Peter Lambert]

If you are using USB to serial gizmo get a genuine FTDI one (you can buy
them from digikey).  I've had lots of strange issues with serial SW since
"real" serial ports disappeared.  They all ended up being dodgy drivers for
the cheapy serial things.  The FTDI USB devices have 100% fixed these
problems.

Peter  VK4JD

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Joel Black
Sent: Thursday, 23 May 2013 8:19 PM
To: elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility (v1.13.4.29),
I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new FW.  It gets about
1/2-way through the DSP update and quits.  I only tried once, it quits at
roughly the same spot as in the past.

I've heard all the "it works fine here" responses so I realize the program
works.  It just doesn't work for me.

Uncle!  I give up - Boot-camping into Windows.

73,
Joel - W4JBB


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Re: [Elecraft] TS-990 Review

[Ian White]

The Radcom review by Peter Hart is reproduced  on Kenwood's UK website:




73 from Ian GM3SEK


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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Bill Frantz]

Sorry for the length. I've tried to put the really lengthy parts 
in footnotes.


General Comments:

I like building things and soldering[1]. I talked with Eric at a 
show and he had cogent things to say about support costs for SMT 
kits, but with my Heathkit background I think we need to give 
young people the experience of building with modern techniques 
so they can compete in inventing new devices.


Touch screens can be really bad.[2] I can still use my K3 by 
touch at night when I haven't turned the lights on. Also think 
about blind hams and other handicaps.


Any new-design radio should have a direct digital audio 
interface to computers.[3]


The radio should be designed for complete remote control[4].

Reducing the maze of wires is certainly desirable.

Mouse click to panadapter tune would be nice.

As a K3/10 owner, I am not overly impressed with the need to 
have >100W in the box. I like the clean signal argument Joe 
presented though.



Cheers - Bill, AE6JV


[1] It took me 18 months to decide between the K2 and K3. I 
looked at it as:


K2:
  + Real kit
  + Smaller
  + Less receive power
  + Less $$$
  - Poorer specs
  - Poorer support for sound-card digital

K3:
  + Better specs
  + Good sound-card digital support
  + The rest of the K line

I finally got off the dime at RadioFest near Monterey CA after 
my wife (a retired Apple software QA engineer) spent 15 minutes 
discussing the K3 UI with an Elecraft booth attendant. When she 
approved the UI and was willing to pony up the $$$ for a minimal 
K3 I jumped on it. My show benefit was free shipping the 30 
miles or so from Watsonville.



[2] My iPhone frequently doesn't recognize my touch. Wetting my 
finger tip helps. I have really big fingers, glove size XL. I 
like the touch screens that can be used with a stylus because I 
can use my finger nail with them. As a touch typist, touch 
screen keyboards are awful.



[3] The radio could include a general purpose computer as part 
of the package. Deciding on computer features makes this choice 
less desirable. (Ducking the Mac/Linux/Windows wars.)



[4] Being able to set the radio up for remote operation becomes 
more important as more and more hams live with antenna 
restrictions or travel. , Also allowing the final amp and 
receiver front end to be near the antenna feed point is quite 
valuable at higher frequencies.


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Re: [Elecraft] MCU 1.48 KX3

[KM4VX]

Hello Joe: I also have 1.48 and no problem changing the time. You may want to
try using the KX3 Utility to set the time; can do that in configuration
mode. I also like option of reverting to previous software load and then
re-loading the new software. Just a thought from a novice. 73. Ron



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[Elecraft] Selling out -- K3, other stuff

[Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO]

I’m selling my Elecraft K3 for either $2,100 or $2,300, depending on whether I 
sell it as-is or send it in to Elecraft first for repair of speaker audio, plus 
all relevant hardware updates since June 2010. 

Description:

K3/100-F  (100 W Transceiver)
KAT3  (Internal ATU with 2nd Ant. Jack)
KBPF3  (General Coverage RX Bandpass Module)
PR6  (Low Noise 6m GaAs FET Preamp, 0.5 dB typ) SOLD
KXV3  (RX Ant., IF Out and Xverter Interface)
KFL3A-400  (400 Hz, 8-pole)
KFL3A-1.8K  (1.8 kHz, 8-pole)
KFL3A-2.7K  (2.7 kHz, 5-pole)
KFL3A-6K  (6 kHz AM/ESSB)

TOTAL COST TO BUILD THIS RIG AS A KIT WITH CURRENT KIT PRICES: $2,979.70
Rounding off to nearest $100: $3,000 new in kit form today.

Pros and cons:

+ Cosmetically indistinguishable from a new K3
+ No physical damage (scratches, dings, dents, etc.)
+ No weird intermittent problems
+ Factory assembled
+ Cool S/N #888
+ One owner (me) 
+ Never in a smoking environment
+ Original fracturing concentric knobs all replaced
+ Everything works as designed EXCEPT speaker amplifier
+ 6m preamp included SOLD

- Speaker amplifier non-functional. 
 (Elecraft estimate to repair, align, and do all factory mods to present: 
$150)
- No hardware mods since June 2010
- Does not have original factory packaging (?) I will look, but I don’t think 
so.

(1) I will send it to Elecraft and get it completely repaired, aligned, and 
up-to-date if you desire. In this mode, the price is $2,300, UPS shipped and 
insured. (REDUCED – was $2,7000). I just checked with Elecraft, and they will 
send the repaired/upgraded K3 directly to you. If you want to do it that way, 
let me know, giving me your address and phone number. It will be shipped UPS 
Ground by Elecraft. If you’re in central CA, you could pick it up there and 
save the shipping cost (at the trade-off of the gasoline cost, hi).

(2) I will sell it as-is for $2,100, UPS shipped and insured. (REDUCED – was 
$2,450). The speaker amp going out is a common failure mode. Elecraft could 
tell you how to fix it and send you the parts. They might want you to replace 
the whole board the speaker amp is on, or they may just want you to replace the 
IC, in which case you would need to be proficient at SME work. You can talk to 
Elecraft about that.


TERMS:
If item(s) are to be shipped, pay in advance by (1) PayPal, (2) Bank Certified 
Check, (3) Bank Cashier’s Check, or (4) Wire Transfer of Funds (ask me for bank 
details). If you come pick it up in Rio Rancho, NM, you can also pay by cash if 
you like, and probably get a discount because of the time and expense it saves 
me. Please, no personal checks (not certified) or “bank checks” (not certified) 
or money orders of any kind. NO EXCEPTIONS. 

>>> Also have MUCH other gear for sale – enquiry brings more details and 
>>> prices: <<<

Kenwood TSB-2000 transceiver (“silver box” remote version) including software, 
manual, remote 
   control head and mounting hardware, factory cartons. Includes 160m–2m @ 
100W, 70 cm @ 50W.
   Add 23 cm with 1296 MHz transverter (still available at retail). Built-in 
satellite mode, repeater mode.
   Outstanding mobile does-everything rig. Includes uninstalled 2.1 kHz 2nd IF 
replacement filter kit.

6m SB-220 conversion kW amp, extensively redesigned and hardened, new graphite 
matched finals.
   Heavy. Prefer local pickup, but will ship UPS if you pay. I will add close 
UPS estimate on to agreed-
   upon price).

DCI 8-pole bandpass filter, 2 MHz wide centered on 50.0 MHz (i.e., 49.0–51.0 
MHz). Will handle at least
   400W RF output at flat SWR. < 1 dB insertion loss. Built like a tank. From 
Canada. Ideal for 6m station 
   in a multi-transmitter contest setup.

ASTRON RS-70M linear power supply (metered, 70A peak). Heavy. Prefer local 
pickup, but will ship 
   UPS if you pay. I will add close UPS estimate on to agreed-upon price).

Yaesu G450A rotor and controller SOLD 

Yaesu thrust bearings (2), need internal clean-up SOLD

Two 5-el 6m yagis, homebrew design (YO), W5WVO modification of Cushcraft (now 
MFJ) A50-5S. Pickup 
   only (ABQ,NM) SOLD 

GlenMartin RT-424 4.5’ aluminum roof tower. Can disassemble & ship UPS, but 
real PITA; reduced price 
   if picked up fully assembled (ABQ, NM). No top thrust bearing. That has 
already been sold, and the
   roof tower didn’t come with it anyway. Separate item.

Wood/steel roof tower mounting platform for flat roofs. No holes in roof! Free. 
Pickup only (ABQ, NM).

Mast, 20’ long, 2.0” O.D., 1/4” wall thickness aluminum tubing (not pipe). 
Pickup only (ABQ, NM). 
   Shipping by common carrier freight (only option) is cost-prohibitive. This 
kind of aluminum tubing, if you 
   can even find it, is extremely costly (not even considering the very high 
truck freight charges). My price 
   will be much, much less if you pick it up. Probably save 85-90%.

KENT iambic Morse paddle, British-made. Really smooth. Best I’ve ever used, but 
then I never tried a Begali.  

Cushcraft R8 HF multiband vertical, virtuall

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Don Wilhelm]

Ron,

Try using the Mic In on your soundcard.  The I/Q signal levels are 
rather low.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2013 4:27 PM, KM4VX wrote:

Must be some interest in the topic!!  I have a line connected from the I/Q
output of the KX3 (with the menu ON) into my PC sound card, line in. Nothing
happens using the HDSDR software on the waterfall although I can control the
KX3. Not receiving signals, just noise. Question: What sound cards are
people finding useful? My generic Realistic PC sound card is apparently
inadequate. The Creative Labs E MU0202 which is popular seems out of stock
most places. While I would prefer a P3 setup, that doesn't look like its
going to happen so I would like to abuse my PC a bit  and try out what is
available now. Thanks



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Re: [Elecraft] MCU 1.48 KX3

[Joseph Trombino, Jr]

Problem solved...not sure why but hey, it's working now.

I powered up and down several times trying to set the TIME on the KX3 and the 
fifth time was a charm...TIME  set FB...no problem.

You just gotta love this digital stuff (grin).

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am.

On May 23, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote:

> Howdy Gang:
> 
> I downloaded KX3 MCU 1.48 a few days ago without problem...all seemed fine.
> 
> Today, I tried to set the TIME on my KX3 as I had done many times before but 
> after entering TIME in the menu and tapping the PRE button to set the HOURS 
> instead of flashing the display remained steadyI couldn't set the HOURS 
> or MINS/SECS.
> 
> I wonder if this is unique to my KX3 now or is it a bug or more probably a 
> problem between my ears??
> 
> Any info most welcomed.
> 
>   73, Joe W2KJ
>   I QRP, therefore I am

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[NZ9E]

Joel,

I've noticed an apparent memory leak in the Mac KX3 Utility app.  After the
leak hits some critical threshold, the app crashes on me.  My apologies to
Elecraft for not yet submitting a bug report.

To check if this is your problem:  open the Apple Mac app "Activity Monitor"
and click the "System Memory" tab.  Then choose "Windowed Processes" from
the menu to make it easier to find the "Elecraft KX3 Utility" process in the
list.  Now run the KX3 Utility and start the firmware download.  Watch the
free memory (green in pie chart); if it's dropping like the gas gauge in an
SUV, and if the Real and Virtual Memory numbers for the KX3 Utility process
are rising, then you would seem to be on the right track.

My workaround:  I have 8 GB of (real) memory, which is high enough that I
don't always get into trouble.  Sometimes quitting other memory-hoggish Mac
apps helps, but mainly I download firmware into my KX3 only with a fresh
instance of the KX3 Utility.  E.g., if I download the KX3 microprocessor
code (successfully), then start downloading the DSP code without quitting
and relaunching the KX3 Utility app, it usually crashes.  So launch KX3
utility, download microprocessor code, quit KX3 utility, launch KX3 utility,
download DSP code, quit KX3 utility.

73,
Bob NZ9E


W4JBB wrote
> This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility 
> (v1.13.4.29), I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new 
> FW.  It gets about 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits.  I only 
> tried once, it quits at roughly the same spot as in the past.





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Re: [Elecraft] K4? No, I want a KX2!

[EricJ]

Put me on THAT list. I just picked up a second K2 that would be perfect 
as a KX2.


SMT is a breeze with a magnifying bench lamp, a decent soldering 
station, tweezers and a reasonably steady hand. You have to learn a 
couple of different and sometimes scary techniques. Melting all the pins 
together into a long solder blob on an expensive SMT chip, then wicking 
off the excess took some guts on the first AmQRP DDS-30 I did, but I 
built three DDS-60s after that and every single one of them worked first 
time I applied power. I was attracted to Elecraft to build electronics, 
not to assemble hardware--I hate that part. hi.


Eric
KE6US

On 5/23/2013 9:43 AM, Rick Dettinger wrote:

My idea of a KX2 would be to rework the K2 with a factory built DDS, maybe from 
the KX3,  but the rest would be the user built K2 in a K2 box.  This could 
include general coverage.
I think many hams would like to build from parts and use their soldering irons. 
 This would be a cross between the KX1 block diagram and the K2 performance.

73,
Rick Dettinger  K7MW


   
On May 23, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Gil G. wrote:



Hello,

Personally, I'd rather see an updated KX1… Same features as the current one, 
but SMT.
CW only, but with the same SW listening capabilities. Four bands if fine.
Internal 12V batteries for a full 5W, or more… Built-in charger...
It would be of course smaller, and should be waterproof. Now that would be 
something!

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Re: [Elecraft] MCU 1.48 KX3

[Dick Dievendorff]

Joe:

Does the KX3 Utility Configuration tab "Set Time" function work for you with
this new revision? I just used it successfully.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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Subject: [Elecraft] MCU 1.48 KX3

Howdy Gang:

I downloaded KX3 MCU 1.48 a few days ago without problem...all seemed fine.

Today, I tried to set the TIME on my KX3 as I had done many times before but
after entering TIME in the menu and tapping the PRE button to set the HOURS
instead of flashing the display remained steadyI couldn't set the HOURS
or MINS/SECS.

I wonder if this is unique to my KX3 now or is it a bug or more probably a
problem between my ears??

Any info most welcomed.

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] psk-31 programs for K3 and KX3

[Keith Heimbold]

I like HRD 6.0 and DM780. Works great for me for PSK and RTTY. 

Rich who is a principal at HRD LLC says that they are working to integrate wsjt 
into the HRD portfolio. More than you asked for but thought I would share.

I am using a microkeyer 2 so my setup is different. Hope that helps.

Good luck!

Keith
AK6ZZ

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On May 23, 2013, at 10:27 AM, "Edward R Cole"  wrote:

> I guess my request was buried too much in a recent reply on another topic.
> 
> I have used Digipan in the past but understand HRD and Filidigi (sp?) can do 
> psk-31.  Any comments or preferences for modern sw that will do psk-31 from a 
> computer?
> 
> I have two applications:
> 1)  K3 with Dell 2.33 duo-core, XP32 SP3 which is currently connected with 
> Elecraft USB/RS232 cable and emu0202 soundcard.
> 2) KX3 with Dell laptop which is being upgraded to win-8 pro from Vista.  I 
> will build an interface to the laptop soundcard and use the KX3-USB cable.
> 
> I am planning to have the KX3 ready for psk-31 (QRP-battery run) for FD.
> 
> thanks,
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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[Elecraft] [K3]K3 Connections to MIL-STD Data Modem Terminal (MS-DTM) (M110A)

[Tom H Childers]

Does anyone have experience in connecting a K3 to the above software
With a SignaLink integrated sound card?

Any Help would be appreciated...

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

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Re: [Elecraft] TS-990 Review

[Scott Manthe]

While that's nice to know, most of us are not subscribers to RadCom, and 
those who are will already be aware of this.  Can you impart any of Mr. 
Hart's relevant findings to the list?


73,
Scott, N9AA


On 5/23/13 12:05 PM, Tim wrote:

Hi All,

There is a Pert Hart full review in the June 2013 RadCom.

73
Tim
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[Elecraft] psk-31 programs for K3 and KX3

[Edward R Cole]

I guess my request was buried too much in a recent reply on another topic.

I have used Digipan in the past but understand HRD and Filidigi (sp?) 
can do psk-31.  Any comments or preferences for modern sw that will 
do psk-31 from a computer?


I have two applications:
1)  K3 with Dell 2.33 duo-core, XP32 SP3 which is currently connected 
with Elecraft USB/RS232 cable and emu0202 soundcard.
2) KX3 with Dell laptop which is being upgraded to win-8 pro from 
Vista.  I will build an interface to the laptop soundcard and use the 
KX3-USB cable.


I am planning to have the KX3 ready for psk-31 (QRP-battery run) for FD.

thanks,
73, Ed - KL7UW

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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[rhol...@comcast.net]

Absolutely Eric. I already have a Glad leaf bag ready!



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Cc: 
Subject: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4
Date: Thu, May 23, 2013 10:07 am


Rich KY6R said

If I stack the KPA-500 on the bottom, KAT-500 next up and K3 and put the P3 
next to that stack, then it will look like one radio - hi hi.

Hey, that's what I will do.

73,

Rich
KY6R


Also, wrap the stack in black plastic wrap.
But first put in a lead ingot, so it will be as heavy as the FT-5000.
And use blue-tinted wrap to cover the front panel so the  display will be Yaesu 
Blue.  :-)


Eric VA7DZ



 

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[Elecraft] [K3] PR 10 10m PreAmp

[John Reilly]

Does anyone know the status of the Elecraft K3 10m preamp product?
Thanks,
  - John, N0TA
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Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[Jeff Ellis]

I have been using the Apple lightning camera adapter and iMic working no 
problem with my iPad Mini and iSDR

Jeff, K7GDE

On May 23, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Rick Robinson  wrote:

> Really I do not need the 30 pin anything. My IPad is the 4th gen with the
> lightning connector.Just a way to get the Griffins male USB connector to
> the Apple lightining connector. It looks like the new lightning camera
> adaptor cable will work. It is a lightning male with a USB female. Seems to
> do the same functions as the 30 pin camera adapter that many have
> mentioned. I thank all for the video references and other info. So far it
> appears no one has used the new lightning connector style IPad. I will test
> the waters and see how this works.
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[eric manning]

Rich KY6R said

If I stack the KPA-500 on the bottom, KAT-500 next up and K3 and put the P3 
next to that stack, then it will look like one radio - hi hi.

Hey, that's what I will do.

73,

Rich
KY6R


Also, wrap the stack in black plastic wrap.
But first put in a lead ingot, so it will be as heavy as the FT-5000.
And use blue-tinted wrap to cover the front panel so the  display will be Yaesu 
Blue.  :-)


Eric VA7DZ



 



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Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[Rick Robinson]

Posts must have crossed. Thanks for the reply. Good to know it works. I'll
start ordering.

On Thursday, May 23, 2013, Jeff Ellis wrote:

> Apple makes a lighting version of the camera connector kit. I am using
> that. It plugs right in and gives you a short cable to connect the iMic to.
> It should be nicer then using the 30pin adapter plus a camera kit. It is
> also cheeper to not buy the adapter. If you already own the 30pin camera
> kit buy the Apple made adapter, if not just get the new version of the kit.
>
> FYI I have tried a 3rd party lighting to 30pin adapter and it worked for
> syncing and charging but not accessories like the camera kit so don't go
> that way.
>
> Jeff, K7GDE
>
> On May 23, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Rick Robinson >
> wrote:
>
> > At Dayton exhibit. I'm trying to remember some things about it.,did it
> have
> > the lightening connector? I have the newer model I Pad with the
> lightening
> > connector and I want to be sure to get the right device to go between my
> > KX3 and the I pad. How was it connected? Thanks to those with good
> memories
> > or cameras.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4? No, I want a KX2!

[Gil G.]

True, but SMT isn't so hard.. I thought it would be, but then built a Weber MTR 
and it worked the first time around.. Components are very small, but with the 
right tool, including a magnifying lens, it is fairly easy.. So, a 
surface-mount kit option would be great.

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On May 23, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Rick Dettinger wrote:

> I think many hams would like to build from parts and use their soldering 
> irons.
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Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[Rick Robinson]

Really I do not need the 30 pin anything. My IPad is the 4th gen with the
lightning connector.Just a way to get the Griffins male USB connector to
the Apple lightining connector. It looks like the new lightning camera
adaptor cable will work. It is a lightning male with a USB female. Seems to
do the same functions as the 30 pin camera adapter that many have
mentioned. I thank all for the video references and other info. So far it
appears no one has used the new lightning connector style IPad. I will test
the waters and see how this works.
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Re: [Elecraft] K4? No, I want a KX2!

[Rick Dettinger]

My idea of a KX2 would be to rework the K2 with a factory built DDS, maybe from 
the KX3,  but the rest would be the user built K2 in a K2 box.  This could 
include general coverage.
I think many hams would like to build from parts and use their soldering irons. 
 This would be a cross between the KX1 block diagram and the K2 performance.

73,
Rick Dettinger  K7MW


  
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> Hello,
> 
> Personally, I'd rather see an updated KX1… Same features as the current one, 
> but SMT.
> CW only, but with the same SW listening capabilities. Four bands if fine.
> Internal 12V batteries for a full 5W, or more… Built-in charger...
> It would be of course smaller, and should be waterproof. Now that would be 
> something!
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[David Fleming]

Joel,

I suspect you may have a marginal KXUSB adapter. While it may work okay with 
the Windows driver, it seems to not be reliable using the OS X driver. I've 
seen this happen before. It could start failing on Windows too at some point. 
Try contacting Elecraft support and see if they will send you another KXUSB to 
try.

This is assuming you have the most current FTDI driver installed on your Mac.

David, W4SMT



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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up
 

Weird… I update my KX3 with my Mac Mini; never had any problem...

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On May 23, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Joel Black wrote:

> This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility (v1.13.4.29), I 
> still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new FW.  It gets about 
> 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits.
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[Elecraft] A COMMENT

[Larry Royster]

YOUR REPORTS NEED  HEADING, SIMILAR, TO THE YAHOO FLIDIGI REPORTS, K4MWE
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Fred Smith]

Bob how right you are my IC-9100 is just as you say, the one non-Elecraft
radio I kept because they had nothing to match it.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

Personally, I'd be happy if I could upgrade my K3 to get rid of all the
clutter on the back panel.  Give me a single Ethernet connection that allows
me rig control, audio in/out, digital modes, IQ out, remote control, etc.
That would eliminate a ton of wiring.

I use a Icon IC-9100 for VHF/UHF work.  It is a pleasure to move that radio
around.  Power, Antenna, USB are the only things hooked up in the back.  My
K3 on the other hand has:  Paddle in, Key in, audio in, audio out, rig
control, cable for tuner and amp, IF output, FSK input, antenna and power
(10 cables).

The K3 is light, highly portable, and is a performance dream.  It just
requires 50 pounds of cables to attach to everything!

Given the modular approach of the K3, it should be possible swap out the
traditional stuff and supply a digital connection as an option.

By the way, I have never had a RFI issue with a Ethernet USTP network.  All
my computer cables/switches work just fine.  Can't say the same about all
the other connectors and cables.  So going over to a single digital
connection makes for a more robust electromagnetic compatibility situation
as well.  Heck, it could even be WiFi.

73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Jim Dunstan]

Hi

I'm sure Elecraft is picking up a few interesting suggestions from 
this thread so I might as well throw my ideas in as well.  I really 
like computers and a clean desk.  I would like to be able to have 
complete control of an excellent radio such as the K3 from my 
computer and to be able to locate my radio out of site.  In fact I 
would like to locate the radio at the back of the house downstairs 
where the antenna cables come in from outside.  The radio would then 
NOT NEED ANY CONTROLS  just control and power cable 
connectors.  The radio could then be sold at a reduced price.  The 
'black box' radio would be totally functional as the present K3 and 
the computer control software in effect would act as a 'dumb 
terminal' and I am sure any number of 3rd party developers would 
bring out attractive versions (such as N4PY).  The old Ten Tec 
Pegasus followed this design.  For those who really like the feel of 
the knobs and switches of a 'real radio' a radio front like the K3/0 
could be made available and could have complete control of the 'black 
box' located under the desk.  It seems that elecraft is already a 
long way along this path.  In addition to the K3/0 a K3/-1 might be 
considered (a K3/-1 being the black box).


Jim, VE3CI

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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Fred Smith]

You know what guys we really are lucky to have the K3/KX3 and what they
bring to the table for us. Plus what we are seeing for add-ons that work
well with the KX3 for logging, Panadapter the works and all the people
working on them.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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Subject: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

K4 = tablet program and dock..?

 

Dick - KA5KKT

 

 

How about a K4/KX4 built in a format like an iMac 

(computer/monitor/all-in-one) or iPad with apps that provide needed user 

interface, and external I/O for amps, P4, keyboard (wireless?) and 

such.  Would be fun with an N1MM app and general logger.  Internet 

interface for uploading to LoTW, ClubLog, etc.

 

Rich

NU6T

 

 

On 5/23/2013 8:08 AM, Edward Dickinson III wrote:

> How about a 8" - 10" tablet-type interface with significant touch areas
that

> are user selectable / programmable and other areas dedicated for pan

> display, typical display readout?

> 

>   

> 

> Dick - KA5KKT

 

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[Elecraft] K4? No, I want a KX2!

[Gil G.]

Hello,

Personally, I'd rather see an updated KX1… Same features as the current one, 
but SMT.
CW only, but with the same SW listening capabilities. Four bands if fine.
Internal 12V batteries for a full 5W, or more… Built-in charger...
It would be of course smaller, and should be waterproof. Now that would be 
something!

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[Gil G.]

Weird… I update my KX3 with my Mac Mini; never had any problem...

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On May 23, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Joel Black wrote:

> This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility (v1.13.4.29), I 
> still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new FW.  It gets about 
> 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits.
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Fred Smith]

Still one of the best all mode mobiles made what's your point? It's
replacement has a touch screen was mine, what is your problem just cheap
answers?

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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On 5/23/2013 7:20 AM, Fred Smith wrote:
>   Icom 7100 has a touch screen
> on it, it is the replacement for the IC-7000

I can't imagine why that would interest anyone -- the 7000 has a user
interface that only the programmer's mother could love. VERY awkward to use,
and it's essentially a cheapie radio with cheapie radio performance.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[Mark Petiford]

Even with a cheap soundcard, you should be able to see something other than 
noise...unless the band is dead.  Can you tune around the band and hear signals 
on the KX3?  If not, you aren't going to see anything on the PC.  A lower 
quality soundcard should not limit WHAT is displayed, but it will probably 
display things that aren't really there as a result of ground loops, dc-offset 
in the card, etc.  Those thing usually don't move as you tune the KX3 since 
they are introduced downstream of the radio.  Real RF signals will move as you 
re-tune the radio.

I don't use HDSDR, but have in the past using Softrock radios.  Getting it set 
up properly can be difficult because it has lots of options.  I was active in 
the Softrock Yahoo group several years ago, and most everyone would use Rocky 
SDR software (www.dxatlas.com/Rocky) to get their radios up and running.  If 
you can get Rocky to access the soundcard (it requires exclusive access), then 
it will faithfully display what it sees at the mic or line input of the PC.  It 
is a rock solid program  with a really great frequency 
domain display.  Unfortunately, it can't control the KX3, so I use it as a pan 
adapter only with FLDIGI as my main program (they both run at the same time).


A good way to test is with a separate signal source rather than relying on 
signals on the bands.  I use an old Norcal signal generator which generates 
signals every 5 khz.  When I see these signals, and they move when I tune the 
radio, I know I am demodulating the IQ stream.


Don't hesitate to come back hear and ask more questions.  I am sure some of the 
folks using HDSDR can help...or give Rocky a try.

Mark
KE6BB




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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter
 
... Not receiving signals, just noise. Question: What sound cards are
people finding useful? My generic Realistic PC sound card is apparently
inadequate... 
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Bob]

Personally, I'd be happy if I could upgrade my K3 to get rid of all the
clutter on the back panel.  Give me a single Ethernet connection that
allows me rig control, audio in/out, digital modes, IQ out, remote control,
etc.  That would eliminate a ton of wiring.

I use a Icon IC-9100 for VHF/UHF work.  It is a pleasure to move that radio
around.  Power, Antenna, USB are the only things hooked up in the back.  My
K3 on the other hand has:  Paddle in, Key in, audio in, audio out, rig
control, cable for tuner and amp, IF output, FSK input, antenna and power
(10 cables).

The K3 is light, highly portable, and is a performance dream.  It just
requires 50 pounds of cables to attach to everything!

Given the modular approach of the K3, it should be possible swap out the
traditional stuff and supply a digital connection as an option.

By the way, I have never had a RFI issue with a Ethernet USTP network.  All
my computer cables/switches work just fine.  Can't say the same about all
the other connectors and cables.  So going over to a single digital
connection makes for a more robust electromagnetic compatibility situation
as well.  Heck, it could even be WiFi.

73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[Fred Smith]

Try a TS-990 plenty of weight there or a 9000MP plenty of HP but you need a
2 wheeler two too move it. The FTDX-5000MP is a good choice for home.


73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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I would expect the K3 to remain the premiere "on the go" radio but I still
want a "real radio" for *home station operation* without the need for four
or five boxes.


73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 5/23/2013 10:23 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:
> Please don't put everything in one enclosure.
> My loaded K3 can now easily fly along when we go on dxpedition. I 
> purchased the KPA500 for that same reason. Decent amount of power at 
> moderate weight. If it would be in one enclosure, I would have trouble 
> taking it with me. Low weight per item is key for me.
>
> 73
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Re: [Elecraft] TS-990 Review

[Tim]

Hi All,

There is a Pert Hart full review in the June 2013 RadCom.

73
Tim
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Re: [Elecraft] Flex 5000A "discontinued" announcement

[Bob]

Is that all?  My Flex-1500 still doesn't work right.  It's pretty good at
holding paper down on my desk though.

73, Bob, WB4SON


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Jack Brabham  wrote:

> Well, if history is a prologue, it will take Flex 2 or 3 years to bring
> the 6000's up to their currently advertized functionality..
>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[Jeff Ellis]

Apple makes a lighting version of the camera connector kit. I am using that. It 
plugs right in and gives you a short cable to connect the iMic to. It should be 
nicer then using the 30pin adapter plus a camera kit. It is also cheeper to not 
buy the adapter. If you already own the 30pin camera kit buy the Apple made 
adapter, if not just get the new version of the kit.

FYI I have tried a 3rd party lighting to 30pin adapter and it worked for 
syncing and charging but not accessories like the camera kit so don't go that 
way.

Jeff, K7GDE

On May 23, 2013, at 6:07 AM, Rick Robinson  wrote:

> At Dayton exhibit. I'm trying to remember some things about it.,did it have
> the lightening connector? I have the newer model I Pad with the lightening
> connector and I want to be sure to get the right device to go between my
> KX3 and the I pad. How was it connected? Thanks to those with good memories
> or cameras.
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[Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Edward Dickinson III]

K4 = tablet program and dock..?

 

Dick - KA5KKT

 

 

How about a K4/KX4 built in a format like an iMac 

(computer/monitor/all-in-one) or iPad with apps that provide needed user 

interface, and external I/O for amps, P4, keyboard (wireless?) and 

such.  Would be fun with an N1MM app and general logger.  Internet 

interface for uploading to LoTW, ClubLog, etc.

 

Rich

NU6T

 

 

On 5/23/2013 8:08 AM, Edward Dickinson III wrote:

> How about a 8" - 10" tablet-type interface with significant touch areas
that

> are user selectable / programmable and other areas dedicated for pan

> display, typical display readout?

> 

>   

> 

> Dick - KA5KKT

 

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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Rich]

How about a K4/KX4 built in a format like an iMac 
(computer/monitor/all-in-one) or iPad with apps that provide needed user 
interface, and external I/O for amps, P4, keyboard (wireless?) and 
such.  Would be fun with an N1MM app and general logger.  Internet 
interface for uploading to LoTW, ClubLog, etc.


Rich
NU6T

On 5/23/2013 8:08 AM, Edward Dickinson III wrote:

How about a 8" - 10" tablet-type interface with significant touch areas that
are user selectable / programmable and other areas dedicated for pan
display, typical display readout?

  


Dick - KA5KKT

  


---

  


Just for concept discussion, it would be really interesting to use a

TFT LCD 5" hi-res color touch screen as part of a new front panel for

the K3.  Just a new front panel interface with a lot of the "knob"

functions accessible as a touch menu items on the screen.

  


Guy/N7UN

  


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Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[T Gahagan]

New Apple devices now use a connector called the "Lightning Connector" 
instead of the old 30 pin connector.  You need an adapter to go from the 
lightning connector to the old style 30 pin connector.  These are available 
anywhere Apple devices are sold.  The Griffin iMic works fine with the 
adapter.


Todd

-Original Message- 
From: Phil Hystad

Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 9:19 AM
To: Richard Gillingham
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

I think someone meant the new Apple "Thunderbolt" connection that is used 
for high-speed video.



On May 23, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Richard Gillingham  wrote:

The one I have uses a USB connector.  Not sure what a Lightening connector 
looks like.

73
Gil, W1RG


Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 09:07:09 -0400
From: rickw...@gmail.com
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

At Dayton exhibit. I'm trying to remember some things about it.,did it 
have
the lightening connector? I have the newer model I Pad with the 
lightening

connector and I want to be sure to get the right device to go between my
KX3 and the I pad. How was it connected? Thanks to those with good 
memories

or cameras.
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Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[Phil Hystad]

Actually, I think they meant the new smaller connector on the so-called 4th gen 
iPads.  It is called a Lightning Connector.


On May 23, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Phil Hystad  wrote:

> I think someone meant the new Apple "Thunderbolt" connection that is used for 
> high-speed video.
> 
> 
> On May 23, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Richard Gillingham  wrote:
> 
>> The one I have uses a USB connector.  Not sure what a Lightening connector 
>> looks like.
>> 73
>> Gil, W1RG
>> 
>>> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 09:07:09 -0400
>>> From: rickw...@gmail.com
>>> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...
>>> 
>>> At Dayton exhibit. I'm trying to remember some things about it.,did it have
>>> the lightening connector? I have the newer model I Pad with the lightening
>>> connector and I want to be sure to get the right device to go between my
>>> KX3 and the I pad. How was it connected? Thanks to those with good memories
>>> or cameras.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[Walter Underwood]

I would start Console (in the Utilities folder), choose "All Messages", then 
start the KX3 Utility and see what is logged.

For example, I just ran it connected to a serial device that does not have a 
KX3 connected and saw a number of these:

5/23/13 8:19:25.000 AM kernel: ttyioss1201: enqueueData rtn (e2d8)
5/23/13 8:19:26.000 AM kernel: ttyioss1201: enqueueData rtn (e2d8)
5/23/13 8:19:26.000 AM kernel: ttyioss1201: enqueueData rtn (e2d8)

Not very helpful to me, but it might help Elecraft debug it.

Also probably worth checking that your FTDI driver is up to date, though they 
don't seem to have changed them in a while.

http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm

wunder
K6WRU

On May 23, 2013, at 3:18 AM, Joel Black wrote:

> This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility (v1.13.4.29), I 
> still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new FW.  It gets about 
> 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits.  I only tried once, it quits at 
> roughly the same spot as in the past.
> 
> I've heard all the "it works fine here" responses so I realize the program 
> works.  It just doesn't work for me.
> 
> Uncle!  I give up - Boot-camping into Windows.
> 
> 73,
> Joel - W4JBB
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[Phil Hystad]

I think someone meant the new Apple "Thunderbolt" connection that is used for 
high-speed video.


On May 23, 2013, at 8:02 AM, Richard Gillingham  wrote:

> The one I have uses a USB connector.  Not sure what a Lightening connector 
> looks like.
> 73
> Gil, W1RG
> 
>> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 09:07:09 -0400
>> From: rickw...@gmail.com
>> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...
>> 
>> At Dayton exhibit. I'm trying to remember some things about it.,did it have
>> the lightening connector? I have the newer model I Pad with the lightening
>> connector and I want to be sure to get the right device to go between my
>> KX3 and the I pad. How was it connected? Thanks to those with good memories
>> or cameras.
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Edward Dickinson III]

How about a 8" - 10" tablet-type interface with significant touch areas that
are user selectable / programmable and other areas dedicated for pan
display, typical display readout?

 

Dick - KA5KKT

 

--- 

 

Just for concept discussion, it would be really interesting to use a

TFT LCD 5" hi-res color touch screen as part of a new front panel for

the K3.  Just a new front panel interface with a lot of the "knob"

functions accessible as a touch menu items on the screen.

 

Guy/N7UN

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and P3 Adapter

[KM4VX]

Must be some interest in the topic!!  I have a line connected from the I/Q
output of the KX3 (with the menu ON) into my PC sound card, line in. Nothing
happens using the HDSDR software on the waterfall although I can control the
KX3. Not receiving signals, just noise. Question: What sound cards are
people finding useful? My generic Realistic PC sound card is apparently
inadequate. The Creative Labs E MU0202 which is popular seems out of stock
most places. While I would prefer a P3 setup, that doesn't look like its
going to happen so I would like to abuse my PC a bit  and try out what is
available now. Thanks



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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[Phil Hystad]

Funny, that would be my nightmare K4.

I want a K4 to totally surprise me with features in a configuration that I 
would never have thought of.


On May 23, 2013, at 4:57 AM, KY6R  wrote:

> I have the full K-Line and love it. However, my dream K4 would be:
> 
> Two receivers
> 400 watts
> Built in panadapter
> Built in antenna tuner
> 160-6M
> Separate RX
> Choice of several filters
> 
> Price = $5000 or less
> 
> Basically, an FT-5000 and TS990s "killer".
> 
> I guess it would be my K-Line in a single box. Larger than the K3 of course
> . . . 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[Richard Gillingham]

The one I have uses a USB connector.  Not sure what a Lightening connector 
looks like.
73
Gil, W1RG

> Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 09:07:09 -0400
> From: rickw...@gmail.com
> To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...
> 
> At Dayton exhibit. I'm trying to remember some things about it.,did it have
> the lightening connector? I have the newer model I Pad with the lightening
> connector and I want to be sure to get the right device to go between my
> KX3 and the I pad. How was it connected? Thanks to those with good memories
> or cameras.
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Re: [Elecraft] MCU 1.48 KX3

[Wayne Burdick]

I just tested this and had no problem. You may have done a hold rather than a 
tap of the 1/2/3 (PRE/ATTN/APF) switch.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On May 23, 2013, at 7:39 AM, "Joseph Trombino, Jr"  wrote:

> Howdy Gang:
> 
> I downloaded KX3 MCU 1.48 a few days ago without problem...all seemed fine.
> 
> Today, I tried to set the TIME on my KX3 as I had done many times before but 
> after entering TIME in the menu and tapping the PRE button to set the HOURS 
> instead of flashing the display remained steadyI couldn't set the HOURS 
> or MINS/SECS.
> 
> I wonder if this is unique to my KX3 now or is it a bug or more probably a 
> problem between my ears??
> 
> Any info most welcomed.
> 
>   73, Joe W2KJ
>   I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Jim Brown]

On 5/23/2013 7:20 AM, Fred Smith wrote:

  Icom 7100 has a touch screen
on it, it is the replacement for the IC-7000


I can't imagine why that would interest anyone -- the 7000 has a user 
interface that only the programmer's mother could love. VERY awkward to 
use, and it's essentially a cheapie radio with cheapie radio performance.


73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[rhol...@comcast.net]

If I stack the KPA-500 on the bottom, KAT-500 next up and K3 and put the P3 
next to that stack, then it will look like one radio - hi hi.

Hey, that's what I will do.

73,

Rich
KY6R

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From: "Fred Smith" 
To: , 
Subject: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4
Date: Thu, May 23, 2013 7:24 am
Rich those were only my opinions from having a few of those features in other 
radios. But I do like my Elecraft K lines. 73,Fred/N0AZZ From: 
rhol...@comcast.net [mailto:rhol...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:37 AM
To: Fred Smith; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4 Good points. You have convinced me that 
my full K Line already is an FT-5000 and TS-990s "killer".

73,

Rich
KY6R

No radios were killed in the making of this email

- Reply message -
From: "Fred Smith" 
To: "'KY6R'" , 
Subject: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4
Date: Thu, May 23, 2013 5:41 am


I know for a fact that I wouldn't buy one and price has nothing to do with
it. A 400w transceiver is worthless IMHO and any built-in Panadapter is just
like the rest. The KPA500/KAT500 is a better choice and if they problems you
pull it out for repair and still able to use radio same for P3/SVGA.

Other than those two you have a K3 with a P3 and KPA500 a much better setup
plus it runs on 12v. Sorry I can't see any advantage with those add-ons in
fact they would be draw backs. I sold my FTDX-5000MP that I owned for 2 yrs
and now have 2 K3's one fully loaded, a full line as you put it on that one
with the KPA500 for 6m and on the main loaded one an Alpha amp just HF. The
FTDX-5000MP was a very good radio in many respects a few of them better than
the K3 but you see what I choose. As I tell many people as far as I know
there has never been a perfect radioyet!

Don't tell anyone but my KX3 has to be close to the best QRP all mode ever
made 8>)

The TS-990 still has no test results released yet and I personally have no
use for 130+ knobs and buttons that may only be used once during setup for
many.

I have a few things I might wish for on a K4 but very few and all could be
done with a couple of new boards and small items. Keep it "SMALL" once I got
used to it it's great!


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of KY6R
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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

I have the full K-Line and love it. However, my dream K4 would be:

Two receivers
400 watts
Built in panadapter
Built in antenna tuner
160-6M
Separate RX
Choice of several filters

Price = $5000 or less

Basically, an FT-5000 and TS990s "killer".

I guess it would be my K-Line in a single box. Larger than the K3 of course
.. . . 



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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

I would expect the K3 to remain the premiere "on the go" radio
but I still want a "real radio" for *home station operation*
without the need for four or five boxes.


73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/23/2013 10:23 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:

Please don't put everything in one enclosure.
My loaded K3 can now easily fly along when we go on dxpedition. I
purchased the KPA500 for that same reason. Decent amount of power at
moderate weight. If it would be in one enclosure, I would have trouble
taking it with me. Low weight per item is key for me.

73
Arie PA3A
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[Elecraft] MCU 1.48 KX3

[Joseph Trombino, Jr]

Howdy Gang:

I downloaded KX3 MCU 1.48 a few days ago without problem...all seemed fine.

Today, I tried to set the TIME on my KX3 as I had done many times before but 
after entering TIME in the menu and tapping the PRE button to set the HOURS 
instead of flashing the display remained steadyI couldn't set the HOURS or 
MINS/SECS.

I wonder if this is unique to my KX3 now or is it a bug or more probably a 
problem between my ears??

Any info most welcomed.

73, Joe W2KJ
I QRP, therefore I am
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[Fred Smith]

Rich those were only my opinions from having a few of those features in other 
radios. But I do like my Elecraft K lines.

 

73,

Fred/N0AZZ

 

From: rhol...@comcast.net [mailto:rhol...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:37 AM
To: Fred Smith; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

 

Good points. You have convinced me that my full K Line already is an FT-5000 
and TS-990s "killer".

73,

Rich
KY6R

No radios were killed in the making of this email

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From: "Fred Smith" 
To: "'KY6R'" , 
Subject: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4
Date: Thu, May 23, 2013 5:41 am


I know for a fact that I wouldn't buy one and price has nothing to do with
it. A 400w transceiver is worthless IMHO and any built-in Panadapter is just
like the rest. The KPA500/KAT500 is a better choice and if they problems you
pull it out for repair and still able to use radio same for P3/SVGA.

Other than those two you have a K3 with a P3 and KPA500 a much better setup
plus it runs on 12v. Sorry I can't see any advantage with those add-ons in
fact they would be draw backs. I sold my FTDX-5000MP that I owned for 2 yrs
and now have 2 K3's one fully loaded, a full line as you put it on that one
with the KPA500 for 6m and on the main loaded one an Alpha amp just HF. The
FTDX-5000MP was a very good radio in many respects a few of them better than
the K3 but you see what I choose. As I tell many people as far as I know
there has never been a perfect radioyet!

Don't tell anyone but my KX3 has to be close to the best QRP all mode ever
made 8>)

The TS-990 still has no test results released yet and I personally have no
use for 130+ knobs and buttons that may only be used once during setup for
many.

I have a few things I might wish for on a K4 but very few and all could be
done with a couple of new boards and small items. Keep it "SMALL" once I got
used to it it's great!


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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I have the full K-Line and love it. However, my dream K4 would be:

Two receivers
400 watts
Built in panadapter
Built in antenna tuner
160-6M
Separate RX
Choice of several filters

Price = $5000 or less

Basically, an FT-5000 and TS990s "killer".

I guess it would be my K-Line in a single box. Larger than the K3 of course
.. . . 



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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[Arie Kleingeld PA3A]

Please don't put everything in one enclosure.
My loaded K3 can now easily fly along when we go on dxpedition. I 
purchased the KPA500 for that same reason. Decent amount of power at 
moderate weight. If it would be in one enclosure, I would have trouble 
taking it with me. Low weight per item is key for me.


73
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Fred Smith]

Guy

I have one of the new Alpha 4040 auto tuners on order and it has one of the
touch screens on it with a lot that it controls. I do mean a lot of
different things including a smith chart display. I am holding my opinion on
this touch screen till I finally receive it. My Smartphone's have had them
for a long time your right about the prices I would think.

As most of you know the new soon to be released Icom 7100 has a touch screen
on it, it is the replacement for the IC-7000 and I'm going to have one if
they are ever released.

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 8:54 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

"The TS-990 still has no test results released yet and I personally have no
use for 130+ knobs and buttons that may only be used once during setup for
many."

Just for concept discussion, it would be really interesting to use a TFT LCD
5" hi-res color touch screen as part of a new front panel for the K3.  Just
a new front panel interface with a lot of the "knob"
functions accessible as a touch menu items on the screen.

Because of the hi-volume use of this technology in the cellphone industry,
prices should be low, and software development libraries mature.

This would then open up a significant advance in the GUI and features
available in the radio, like maybe a limited bandscope.

I have no idea if this is code-compatible with the existing K3?   But
nonetheless fun to dream about.

Guy/N7UN

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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

In spite of what others say,  I generally agree with the list.

Although I think 400W may be "over the top" - 150 to 200W output
with a 48V PA power supply would be extremely useful for those
who do not use external power amplifiers and would provide much
better transmit IMD numbers (cleaner signals).

In addition to the built-in P3, I would include an SVGA output
(P3SVGA), separate "TERMINAL" (DB9) I/O, and USB accessory jacks
(support for keyboard, mouse, and "Shuttle Pro" as a remove VFO
and macro device).

I would also include - "band stacking" registers with true single
button per band band selection;  selectable optimized preamps for
6m and 10/12m; operation to 400 KHz (for the 490 KHz allocation
when it becomes available); place the "notch" *inside* the AGC;
make the noise reduction more effective; review/eliminate some of
the dual function (tap/hold) switches - particularly operation of
"SUB" and AFX/DATA MD; wideband (100 KHz) I/Q input and output
for external software support.

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV


On 5/23/2013 7:57 AM, KY6R wrote:

I have the full K-Line and love it. However, my dream K4 would be:

Two receivers
400 watts
Built in panadapter
Built in antenna tuner
160-6M
Separate RX
Choice of several filters

Price = $5000 or less

Basically, an FT-5000 and TS990s "killer".

I guess it would be my K-Line in a single box. Larger than the K3 of course
. . .



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Re: [Elecraft] hooking up a K3 to a Alpha 76

[Don Wilhelm]

Jack,

It sounds like the K3 Keyout is not working,  It is easy to test that --
Put the K3 into TX TEST
Then tap the XMIT button and check the resistance between the center and 
shield of the Keyout connector.

If it does not go to a low resistance, it is time to contact K3support.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/23/2013 9:29 AM, Jack Brabham wrote:
I am having a similar problem, the K3 doesn't key up my 76A.   Not a 
molex problem, since the amp keys if I pull the cable from the K3 "key 
out" and short the center pin to the shield.  Someone mentioned 
"config settings", but I'm not seeing any that seem relevant to "Key 
Out".  So my question is "What config settings?".


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[Elecraft] Musings on a "K4"

[Guy]

"The TS-990 still has no test results released yet and I personally have no
use for 130+ knobs and buttons that may only be used once during setup for
many."

Just for concept discussion, it would be really interesting to use a
TFT LCD 5" hi-res color touch screen as part of a new front panel for
the K3.  Just a new front panel interface with a lot of the "knob"
functions accessible as a touch menu items on the screen.

Because of the hi-volume use of this technology in the cellphone
industry, prices should be low, and software development libraries
mature.

This would then open up a significant advance in the GUI and features
available in the radio, like maybe a limited bandscope.

I have no idea if this is code-compatible with the existing K3?   But
nonetheless fun to dream about.

Guy/N7UN

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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[rhol...@comcast.net]

Good points. You have convinced me that my full K Line already is an FT-5000 
and TS-990s "killer".

73,

Rich
KY6R

No radios were killed in the making of this email

- Reply message -
From: "Fred Smith" 
To: "'KY6R'" , 
Subject: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4
Date: Thu, May 23, 2013 5:41 am


I know for a fact that I wouldn't buy one and price has nothing to do with
it. A 400w transceiver is worthless IMHO and any built-in Panadapter is just
like the rest. The KPA500/KAT500 is a better choice and if they problems you
pull it out for repair and still able to use radio same for P3/SVGA.

Other than those two you have a K3 with a P3 and KPA500 a much better setup
plus it runs on 12v. Sorry I can't see any advantage with those add-ons in
fact they would be draw backs. I sold my FTDX-5000MP that I owned for 2 yrs
and now have 2 K3's one fully loaded, a full line as you put it on that one
with the KPA500 for 6m and on the main loaded one an Alpha amp just HF. The
FTDX-5000MP was a very good radio in many respects a few of them better than
the K3 but you see what I choose. As I tell many people as far as I know
there has never been a perfect radioyet!

Don't tell anyone but my KX3 has to be close to the best QRP all mode ever
made 8>)

The TS-990 still has no test results released yet and I personally have no
use for 130+ knobs and buttons that may only be used once during setup for
many.

I have a few things I might wish for on a K4 but very few and all could be
done with a couple of new boards and small items. Keep it "SMALL" once I got
used to it it's great!


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of KY6R
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:58 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

I have the full K-Line and love it. However, my dream K4 would be:

Two receivers
400 watts
Built in panadapter
Built in antenna tuner
160-6M
Separate RX
Choice of several filters

Price = $5000 or less

Basically, an FT-5000 and TS990s "killer".

I guess it would be my K-Line in a single box. Larger than the K3 of course
.. . . 



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Re: [Elecraft] Flex 5000A "discontinued" announcement

[Jack Brabham]

Well, if history is a prologue, it will take Flex 2 or 3 years to bring 
the 6000's up to their currently advertized functionality..


73 Jack KZ5A

K3 #4165




On 5/22/2013 9:00 AM, Richard Fjeld wrote:

If you are the type that likes a computer-coupled-radio, then Google the ANAN10 
and ANAN100 and check it out at a fraction of the price of the 6000 series. See 
the eHam Reviews. It is similar, and uses open source software.

Dick, n0ce
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   To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
   Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:27 PM
   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Flex 5000A "discontinued" announcement


   Ah yes... the elusive 6000 series vapor-flexes...


   Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ

   Owner - Operator

   Big Signal Ranch
   Staunton, Illinois

   email:  b...@wjschmidt.com


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   [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Scott Manthe
   Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:25 PM
   To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Flex 5000A "discontinued" announcement

   Tom,
   I'm not sure why you'd ask this on the Elecraft list, however, since
   there are no Flex 6000s to sell yet, I doubt they'd be discontinuing the
   5000 just yet.

   73,
   Scott, N9AA


   On 5/21/13 8:31 PM, tomwarren wrote:
   >
   >Before I get all worked up about this... was there ever an "Official"
   announcement
   > by Flex Radio Systems about the discontinuance of the Flex 5000A ?
   >
   > I just took another look at their web page and it STILL carries a
   picture of the '5000A and
   > a blurb about "Order Now".
   >
   > Thanks,
   > Tom
   > 73
   > W4TMW
   >
   >
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Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[Andrew Moore]

Apple's Lightning to 30 pin adapter should work with that setup on the
newer (Lightning) models. I am using Griffin iMic with newer iPad mini
(Lightning) and the adapter no prob. I suggest you use Apple's one not a
knockoff.


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Rick Robinson  wrote:

> At Dayton exhibit. I'm trying to remember some things about it.,did it have
> the lightening connector? I have the newer model I Pad with the lightening
> connector and I want to be sure to get the right device to go between my
> KX3 and the I pad. How was it connected? Thanks to those with good memories
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Re: [Elecraft] hooking up a K3 to a Alpha 76

[Jack Brabham]

I am having a similar problem, the K3 doesn't key up my 76A.   Not a 
molex problem, since the amp keys if I pull the cable from the K3 "key 
out" and short the center pin to the shield.  Someone mentioned "config 
settings", but I'm not seeing any that seem relevant to "Key Out".  So 
my question is "What config settings?".


73 Jack KZ5A

K3# 4165





On 5/22/2013 9:23 AM, Rick Hiller wrote:

How about setting it to VOX.  There is a note in the manual about this.
Relay key line will go active, but no power out of the K3 and, therefore, no
power out of the Alpha.

This happens on my K3/Al-80B combo.

73...Rick -- W5RH

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gerald Manthey
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:19 AM
To: Fred Smith
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] hooking up a K3 to a Alpha 76

I believe so. K3 works great by it's self. Going to try everything again
today since i've had a good nights sleep.
Thanks
Gerald
On May 22, 2013 2:59 AM, "Fred Smith"  wrote:


That's all I have hooked up to my 87A other than the coax do you have
all the menu items set correctly on the K3?


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gerald Manthey
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:43 PM
To: Dick Dievendorff
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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Both rca connectors.
On May 21, 2013 9:42 PM, "Gerald Manthey"  wrote:


Yes, from key out to relay on the amp.
  On May 21, 2013 9:06 PM, "Dick Dievendorff"  wrote:


Have you connected the amplifier keying line?

Dick, K6KR


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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 19:05 PM
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Subject: [Elecraft] hooking up a K3 to a Alpha 76

Anyone hook up a Alpha 76 to a K3?
I hooked everything up but no power when I key.
Any suggestion?




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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[Doug Turnbull]

Hi All,
KY6R is entitled to dream as we all do.For me though any rig with
more than 100 Watts output is problematic.   I want to be able to drive an
amplifier without danger of instantly frying its grids or input circuit.
Most casual operations here are at 65 Watts without an amplifier.   

The modular construction of the K line is one of its strong points.
One can purchase a basic K3 for a modest cost and then develop the station
to suit pocket and needs.   I believe this has been a feature for Elecraft.
I even now accept the smaller size and light weight K3 as preferable.

 It seems our favourite radio will be around for a long time to come and
somehow Elecraft will continue to improve this fine piece of engineering.
Thank you for this.   In the meantime we all dream and this drives progress.

 Now to become accustomed to a KX3 driving an Alex Loop while visiting
in W land.

 73 Doug EI2CN

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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
Sent: 23 May 2013 13:42
To: 'KY6R'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

I know for a fact that I wouldn't buy one and price has nothing to do with
it. A 400w transceiver is worthless IMHO and any built-in Panadapter is just
like the rest. The KPA500/KAT500 is a better choice and if they problems you
pull it out for repair and still able to use radio same for P3/SVGA.

Other than those two you have a K3 with a P3 and KPA500 a much better setup
plus it runs on 12v. Sorry I can't see any advantage with those add-ons in
fact they would be draw backs. I sold my FTDX-5000MP that I owned for 2 yrs
and now have 2 K3's one fully loaded, a full line as you put it on that one
with the KPA500 for 6m and on the main loaded one an Alpha amp just HF. The
FTDX-5000MP was a very good radio in many respects a few of them better than
the K3 but you see what I choose. As I tell many people as far as I know
there has never been a perfect radioyet!

Don't tell anyone but my KX3 has to be close to the best QRP all mode ever
made 8>)

The TS-990 still has no test results released yet and I personally have no
use for 130+ knobs and buttons that may only be used once during setup for
many.

I have a few things I might wish for on a K4 but very few and all could be
done with a couple of new boards and small items. Keep it "SMALL" once I got
used to it it's great!


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

I have the full K-Line and love it. However, my dream K4 would be:

Two receivers
400 watts
Built in panadapter
Built in antenna tuner
160-6M
Separate RX
Choice of several filters

Price = $5000 or less

Basically, an FT-5000 and TS990s "killer".

I guess it would be my K-Line in a single box. Larger than the K3 of course
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Re: [Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[Lyle Johnson]

The Dayton demo was a first generation iPad with the 30-pin expansion 
connector.  An Apple camera connection kit was used to bring out a USB 
port from the 30-pin connector.  The Griffin iMic was plugged into the 
USB port.  The KX3 cable kit was used to bring the IQ baseband signals 
to the iMic.  The app running was iSDR from the app store.


73,

Lyle KK7P


At Dayton exhibit. I'm trying to remember some things about it.,did it have
the lightening connector? I have the newer model I Pad with the lightening
connector and I want to be sure to get the right device to go between my
KX3 and the I pad. How was it connected?


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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 andKAT500 schematics available?

[Ken K3IU]

Try this URL...
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3_Schematics_Jun_2010.pdf
Ken K3IU


On 5/23/2013 9:01 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote:

H... I fix my own stuff, so my expectation is that a diagram show up
with my newly purchased KPA500.  My policy is that if I don't get a diagram
with the electronics and I have to fix it,  I reverse engineer it and make
it public to everyone.  If I get one, I keep it to myself.  Pay me now or
pay me later...


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ PJ4HZ
  
Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois
  
email:  b...@wjschmidt.com


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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of AG0N-3055
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:49 AM
To: elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 andKAT500 schematics available?

On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:44:05 -0500, Mike Schultz wrote:


I wonder if schematics are
published like the K3's are.  I don't see them on the website.  If not
published, are they at least supplied with the kits?

I bought a KPA500.  There was no diagram on the web site, and none was
supplied.  However, I promptly received one in PDF format when I asked
about it.

Gary


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[Elecraft] Griffin Imic used...

[Rick Robinson]

At Dayton exhibit. I'm trying to remember some things about it.,did it have
the lightening connector? I have the newer model I Pad with the lightening
connector and I want to be sure to get the right device to go between my
KX3 and the I pad. How was it connected? Thanks to those with good memories
or cameras.
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU Power = 0; r = 9.9

[Don Wilhelm]

Bruce,

What happens when you try it into a dummy load?  What is the power 
indication and what is the SWR indicated?

Put it into ATU CAL and try - what are the results?
Then put it into ATU TUN and try again - results?

Are resistors R3 and R4 swapped?
Remove the KXAT1 and measure the resistance between P1 pins 1 and 3 - it 
should be zero.
Then put the KXAT1 back in and measure the resistance between the BNC 
jack center conductor and lead 6 of T1 (the 1 turn winding) - you should 
measure zero ohms if the connectors are mating properly.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/22/2013 8:58 PM, Bruce Ikefugi wrote:

My KX1 seems to be working fine; I hear a strong signal into my other radios 
and no error messages or other problems.  When I install the ATU I can null C9. 
 When I tune, power always reads 0, sometimes for a second 1; R always equals 
9.9.  I am feeding to resonant antennas, a dipole on 14, an end fed on 7.  R4 
is at maximum.  The same thing happens with the internal batteries or with a 
13.5 power supply.  I have checked my connections, soldering and toroids 
several times.  Any suggestions would be very appreciated.  I do not have a 
wattmeter or an swr meter.  Thank you!




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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 andKAT500 schematics available?

[Dr. William J. Schmidt, II]

H... I fix my own stuff, so my expectation is that a diagram show up
with my newly purchased KPA500.  My policy is that if I don't get a diagram
with the electronics and I have to fix it,  I reverse engineer it and make
it public to everyone.  If I get one, I keep it to myself.  Pay me now or
pay me later...


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ PJ4HZ
 
Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois
 
email:  b...@wjschmidt.com

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of AG0N-3055
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 7:49 AM
To: elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 andKAT500 schematics available?

On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:44:05 -0500, Mike Schultz wrote:

> I wonder if schematics are 
> published like the K3's are.  I don't see them on the website.  If not 
> published, are they at least supplied with the kits?

I bought a KPA500.  There was no diagram on the web site, and none was
supplied.  However, I promptly received one in PDF format when I asked
about it.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 andKAT500 schematics available?

[AG0N-3055]

On Thu, 23 May 2013 01:44:05 -0500, Mike Schultz wrote:

> I wonder if schematics are 
> published like the K3's are.  I don't see them on the website.  If not 
> published, are they at least supplied with the kits?

I bought a KPA500.  There was no diagram on the web site, and none was
supplied.  However, I promptly received one in PDF format when I asked
about it.

Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[Fred Smith]

I know for a fact that I wouldn't buy one and price has nothing to do with
it. A 400w transceiver is worthless IMHO and any built-in Panadapter is just
like the rest. The KPA500/KAT500 is a better choice and if they problems you
pull it out for repair and still able to use radio same for P3/SVGA.

Other than those two you have a K3 with a P3 and KPA500 a much better setup
plus it runs on 12v. Sorry I can't see any advantage with those add-ons in
fact they would be draw backs. I sold my FTDX-5000MP that I owned for 2 yrs
and now have 2 K3's one fully loaded, a full line as you put it on that one
with the KPA500 for 6m and on the main loaded one an Alpha amp just HF. The
FTDX-5000MP was a very good radio in many respects a few of them better than
the K3 but you see what I choose. As I tell many people as far as I know
there has never been a perfect radioyet!

Don't tell anyone but my KX3 has to be close to the best QRP all mode ever
made 8>)

The TS-990 still has no test results released yet and I personally have no
use for 130+ knobs and buttons that may only be used once during setup for
many.

I have a few things I might wish for on a K4 but very few and all could be
done with a couple of new boards and small items. Keep it "SMALL" once I got
used to it it's great!


73,
Fred/N0AZZ
K3 Ser #'s 6730/5299--KX3 # 2573--K2/100--KAT100
P3/SVGA--KPA500--KAT500--W2



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Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 6:58 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

I have the full K-Line and love it. However, my dream K4 would be:

Two receivers
400 watts
Built in panadapter
Built in antenna tuner
160-6M
Separate RX
Choice of several filters

Price = $5000 or less

Basically, an FT-5000 and TS990s "killer".

I guess it would be my K-Line in a single box. Larger than the K3 of course
. . . 



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Re: [Elecraft] Musings on a K4

[KY6R]

I have the full K-Line and love it. However, my dream K4 would be:

Two receivers
400 watts
Built in panadapter
Built in antenna tuner
160-6M
Separate RX
Choice of several filters

Price = $5000 or less

Basically, an FT-5000 and TS990s "killer".

I guess it would be my K-Line in a single box. Larger than the K3 of course
. . . 



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[Elecraft] KX3 Mac Utility - I Give Up

[Joel Black]

This being the first time I have used the new Mac KX3 Utility 
(v1.13.4.29), I still cannot get it to go through an entire load of new 
FW.  It gets about 1/2-way through the DSP update and quits.  I only 
tried once, it quits at roughly the same spot as in the past.


I've heard all the "it works fine here" responses so I realize the 
program works.  It just doesn't work for me.


Uncle!  I give up - Boot-camping into Windows.

73,
Joel - W4JBB


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[Elecraft] KX3 Utility (Linux version)

[Dave B]

Hi.

OK, KX3 kit has arrived, courtesy of a collegue who traveled to Dayton.  
(Thanks Tim.)  Not even emptied the box yet, as had "domestic duties" to 
deal with last night.  But, a long weekend coming up, so "soon" 
hopefully.

In preparation, I've downloaded the KX3 utility from the Elecraft site 
(Linux version as well as the Windows one.)

The Windows version installs and attempts to run, but hangs as it can't 
see (yet) a KX3 to play with.  Not the best policy needing the user to 
break out "Task manager" to kill it and regain control of the PC, but...


The Linux version, after taking advice from some people with vastly more 
experience in things Linux, still doesn't run.  It's complaining about 
being unable to find it's lib's.  Even starting it as root doesn't help.

Also, paths/filenames with spaces in, is a distint no-no in posix based 
systems in general, also the help folder has a lot of temporary file 
dross shipped as standard.  (That all works in the default browser by the 
way.)

Anyway...   So...

What is the **EXACT** procedure to "Install" that Linux version of 
KX3Utility, in Lubuntu?   What files go where, what permisions are needed 
etc etc.

Or, is there an open source version, as building/installing from source 
is usualy painless, even for me!

Though I have Windows machines in the shack, my diminutive Acer portable 
PC that will inevitably accompany the KX3, is Lubuntu based.

73.

Dave G0WBX.



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