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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Fwd: Yaesu 817ND vs Elecraft KX3 Differences for Portable Use

2016-01-28 Thread Edward R Cole

I owned a FT-817 from the first year they offered it until the KX3 
came out.  Sold the FT-817 ... nuff said!



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Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Barry Baines

Eric:

I presume this means that the new prices will be in effect at the Orlando 
Hamcation-ARRL National Convention (12-14 FEB)?  

Guess I better decide before 4 FEB rather than at Orlando…

73,

Barry
WD4ASW



> On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
> 
> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first mentioned 
> late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both the large 
> holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of which always 
> generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales team very busy.
> 
> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their prices 
> to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle to keep 
> costs down as economic activity has picked up the last two years.) We've been 
> absorbing all of these increases, but now we have hit the point where we  
> must increase prices slightly on a number of our products.
> 
> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order forms 
> will update with the new pricing at that time.
> 
> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about 
> which specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, as 
> they do not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting 
> everything entered.)
> 
> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be 
> charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
> 
> 73,
> Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] K3 extra xmit frequency

2016-01-28 Thread Fred C. Jensen

FWIW, I worked a station in NAQP SSB, and then tuning down, heard him weakly 
and distorted but understandable about 4 kHz down. He had complimented my audio 
and when I said "K3" he said "me too.

73,

FRED K6DGW
Sparks NV

Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>Bill,
>
>This is a very unusual problem. Please contact customer support.
>
>73,
>Wayne
>N6KR
>
>On Jan 27, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft 
> wrote:
>
>> A friend of mine (100 miles away) recently noticed a dual signal being 
>> transmitted from my K3…
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 extra xmit frequency

2016-01-28 Thread Wayne Burdick

Bill,

This is a very unusual problem. Please contact customer support.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Jan 27, 2016, at 11:25 PM, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft 
 wrote:

> A friend of mine (100 miles away) recently noticed a dual signal being 
> transmitted from my K3…


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Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft


Yes, that is correct.

Eric
/elecraft.com/

On 1/28/2016 7:24 AM, Barry Baines wrote:

Eric:

I presume this means that the new prices will be in effect at the Orlando 
Hamcation-ARRL National Convention (12-14 FEB)?

Guess I better decide before 4 FEB rather than at Orlando…

73,

Barry
WD4ASW




On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  
wrote:

Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:

We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first mentioned 
late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both the large holiday 
season order rush and several ham shows, both of which always generate a lot of 
sales sales activity and keep our sales team very busy.

As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their prices to 
us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle to keep costs 
down as economic activity has picked up the last two years.) We've been 
absorbing all of these increases, but now we have hit the point where we  must 
increase prices slightly on a number of our products.

The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order forms 
will update with the new pricing at that time.

Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about which 
specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, as they do 
not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting everything 
entered.)

Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be charged 
at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

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Re: [Elecraft] 10 MHz Reference Oscillator

2016-01-28 Thread Mike VE3YF

Kevin:

Not sure if you have made purchases etc, but Force-12 has 2 units (GPSDO) that 
are made by Leo Bodnar available that have dual outputs.


73 De Mike
VE3YF

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[Elecraft] Regulated PS load step overshoot

2016-01-28 Thread Howard Hoyt


Hi all,

On Jan 21, Ted, KN1CBR posted regarding a suspected supply transient 
problem damaging his K2.  This post encouraged me to check the response 
of different power supplies to a load step from high to low load.  This 
is a situation where the internal regulator in the supply can 
potentially overshoot due to one or a combination of several factors: 
poor regulator design, DC lead inductance, DC lead resistance and others.


The results of these load step tests are now posted on our site:
https://proaudioeng.com/products/pae-kx33-low-rfi-ac-power-supply/
Select the 'Test Results' tab.

In general most name-brand supplies have minimal overshoot and decent 
regulation, but some very inexpensive switching regulators have terrible 
performance.  I would never suggest running expensive electronics on a 
cheap unquantified switching power supply...or linear supply for that 
matter.  A common failure mode for linear regulators when overloaded or 
overheated is shorting of the pass device.  Without a crowbar circuit 
installed this will of course put full unregulated voltage at the output 
terminals.  Conversely, failure of a power device in a switching 
regulator will cause the output to drop to zero.


Cheers & 73,

Howie - WA4PSC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

2016-01-28 Thread Jim Brown


On Thu,1/28/2016 9:17 PM, Rick Tavan wrote:
:-)  Don't forget about the support, either, Jim. N1MM support is 
excellent, with developers responding quickly to most questions on the 
reflector and releasing new stuff almost every week. Writelog support 
is opaque and rare. Like you, I haven't looked back since first trying 
MM+.


Yes, and the support is equally good for DXKeeper and all the other 
software in that suite.


73, Jim K9YC
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[Elecraft] FW: Filtering RFI from LED & flouresence Dimmer Switches

2016-01-28 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH

I replaced some of my older 2 X 4 foot,
"shop-lights" with LED versions from Costco
($27.95 ea.) in the garage and an out-building. So
far, I don't hear any RFI from them.   The LED
shop lights use a 38 Watt total draw compared to
60 W (electronic ballast) or even 90 watts (older
magnetic ballast.)  However the BIG advantage is
that come on at full brightness at 10 degrees.
Previously, the out building lights dimly
flickered and buzzed for 15 min or more until they
warmed up.

73, Charlie k3ICH

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On
Behalf Of Kevin Stover
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 8:22 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Filtering RFI from LED &
flouresence Dimmer Switches

My simple (=cheaper) solution is to get rid of the
dimmers all together.
How much is a good old fashioned light switch at
the big three, $1.50, two buck if you want a
matching switch plate.
When we bought our house I replaced six dimmers.
Didn't hear a peep from "she who must be obeyed".
I have about that many CFL's to swap out for
LED's. The garage fluorescents will be a different
story. They get to stay as long as they stay radio
quiet.

On 1/25/2016 6:52 PM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote:
> My simple (= cheep) solution is to simply turn
off all dimmer 
> controlled lights when I'm on the air.
> For me, this is easy since there's only two in
the whole house!
>
> Charlie k3ICH
>
>

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Re: [Elecraft] Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Phil Hystad

But, will there be a show discount at Orlando.  Actually, I am not going but I 
am curious.

73, phil, K7PEH


> On Jan 28, 2016, at 8:39 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes, that is correct.
> 
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
> 
> On 1/28/2016 7:24 AM, Barry Baines wrote:
>> Eric:
>> 
>> I presume this means that the new prices will be in effect at the Orlando 
>> Hamcation-ARRL National Convention (12-14 FEB)?
>> 
>> Guess I better decide before 4 FEB rather than at Orlando…
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Barry
>> WD4ASW
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>>> 
>>> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first 
>>> mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both the 
>>> large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of which always 
>>> generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales team very busy.
>>> 
>>> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their 
>>> prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending battle 
>>> to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last two years.) 
>>> We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we have hit the point 
>>> where we  must increase prices slightly on a number of our products.
>>> 
>>> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order forms 
>>> will update with the new pricing at that time.
>>> 
>>> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people about 
>>> which specific products will be changing or how much the changes will be, 
>>> as they do not have this information. (We're still in the middle getting 
>>> everything entered.)
>>> 
>>> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be 
>>> charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Eric
>>> /elecraft.com/
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock bug?

2016-01-28 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft

Even simpler would be an app the updated the time from your PC
My Camera does that from my tablet whenever it connects


 

  From: Dave Cole 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock bug?
   
It would be so cool if the Elecraft clock set itself when I tune to
WWV, using the data WWV sends.  :)
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On Thu, 2016-01-28 at 01:29 +, Al Lorona wrote:
> 1. I have the clock on all of the time. 
> 
> 
> 2. Today when I turned on my K3 I noticed that the clock was behind
> by several seconds.
> 
> 3. All I did was hit the DISP button, then hit it again to look at
> the clock again and it was back on the correct time. As if it re-read 
> itself and updated itself to the correct time.
> 
> 4. What the heck?
> 
> 
> Al  W6LX
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[Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Clay Autery

OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a
second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
spec'ing out my reduced order?

Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:

*http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
*
Here's the Executive summary:
K3S/100K  Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
KRX3A-K  Secondary Receiver
KAT3A-K  Internal Antenna tuner
MH-2  Hand Mic
SS30DV  Power Supply

And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB)
FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
both receivers)
FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)

Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it.  Anyone
think I should do anything different?  I'm kind of capped right around
this total.

Thanks

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(318) 518-1389

On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>
> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
> mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
> the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
> which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
> team very busy.
>
> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
> prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
> battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
> two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
> have hit the point where we  must increase prices slightly on a number
> of our products.
>
> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order
> forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
>
> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
> about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
> will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
> middle getting everything entered.)
>
> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
> charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
>
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Barry N1EU

I question the need for both cw filters.  These are just roofing filters,
to attenuate s9+ signals and not overload the ADC -  almost all the
filtering function is done by DSP.  In fact, unless you operate on crowded
bands with big signals, you don't need a narrow roofing filter.  If unsure,
just get the wider cw filter.

Barry N1EU

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:

> OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
> order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a
> second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
> spec'ing out my reduced order?
>
> Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:
>
> *http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
> *
> Here's the Executive summary:
> K3S/100K  Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
> KRX3A-K  Secondary Receiver
> KAT3A-K  Internal Antenna tuner
> MH-2  Hand Mic
> SS30DV  Power Supply
>
> And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
> FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
> FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB)
> FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
> both receivers)
> FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
> working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
> FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)
>
> Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it.  Anyone
> think I should do anything different?  I'm kind of capped right around
> this total.
>
> Thanks
>
> __
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> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> > Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
> >
> > We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
> > mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
> > the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
> > which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
> > team very busy.
> >
> > As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
> > prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
> > battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
> > two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
> > have hit the point where we  must increase prices slightly on a number
> > of our products.
> >
> > The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order
> > forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
> >
> > Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
> > about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
> > will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
> > middle getting everything entered.)
> >
> > Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
> > charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
> >
> > 73,
> > Eric
> > /elecraft.com/
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock bug?

2016-01-28 Thread Dave Cole

Hi Harry,

The K3 utility app does that now...

 
73's, and thanks,
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On Thu, 2016-01-28 at 18:14 +, Harry Yingst wrote:
> Even simpler would be an app the updated the time from your PC
> 
> My Camera does that from my tablet whenever it connects
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Dave Cole 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock bug?
> 
> It would be so cool if the Elecraft clock set itself when I tune to
> WWV, using the data WWV sends.  :)
> -- 
> 73's, and thanks,
> Dave
> 
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> http://www.nk7z.net
> 
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> https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> 
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2016-01-28 at 01:29 +, Al Lorona wrote:
> > 1. I have the clock on all of the time. 
> > 
> > 
> > 2. Today when I turned on my K3 I noticed that the clock was behind
> > by several seconds.
> > 
> > 3. All I did was hit the DISP button, then hit it again to look at
> > the clock again and it was back on the correct time. As if it re-
> read 
> > itself and updated itself to the correct time.
> > 
> > 4. What the heck?
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Art Hejduk

Clay,

The FM filter will work for both AM and FM.  That's what I chose.  Also, I
would (did) just get the 400Hz CW filter.

73,
Art  WB8ENE

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:

> OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
> order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a
> second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
> spec'ing out my reduced order?
>
> Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:
>
> *http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
> *
> Here's the Executive summary:
> K3S/100K  Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
> KRX3A-K  Secondary Receiver
> KAT3A-K  Internal Antenna tuner
> MH-2  Hand Mic
> SS30DV  Power Supply
>
> And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
> FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
> FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB)
> FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
> both receivers)
> FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
> working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
> FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)
>
> Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it.  Anyone
> think I should do anything different?  I'm kind of capped right around
> this total.
>
> Thanks
>
> __
> Clay Autery
> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> > Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
> >
> > We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
> > mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
> > the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
> > which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
> > team very busy.
> >
> > As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
> > prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
> > battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
> > two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
> > have hit the point where we  must increase prices slightly on a number
> > of our products.
> >
> > The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order
> > forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
> >
> > Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
> > about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
> > will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
> > middle getting everything entered.)
> >
> > Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
> > charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
> >
> > 73,
> > Eric
> > /elecraft.com/
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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Michael Murphy

When I ordered my K3 13 months ago, I spent time talking it through with
one of the guys at Elecraft.  I considered swapping the 2.7 for the 2.8
filter, but didn't.  Now I don't see a reason to and am glad I didn't
bother.

As for the 250 CW filter, I do contest, but have used it maybe once or
twice since I've had the radio.  If I had it to do over again, I would have
stopped at the 400hz filter.

Mike - KI8R

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:

> OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
> order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a
> second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
> spec'ing out my reduced order?
>
> Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:
>
> *http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
> *
> Here's the Executive summary:
> K3S/100K  Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
> KRX3A-K  Secondary Receiver
> KAT3A-K  Internal Antenna tuner
> MH-2  Hand Mic
> SS30DV  Power Supply
>
> And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
> FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
> FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB)
> FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
> both receivers)
> FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
> working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
> FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)
>
> Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it.  Anyone
> think I should do anything different?  I'm kind of capped right around
> this total.
>
> Thanks
>
> __
> Clay Autery
> MONTAC Enterprises
> (318) 518-1389
>
> On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> > Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
> >
> > We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
> > mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
> > the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
> > which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
> > team very busy.
> >
> > As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
> > prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
> > battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
> > two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
> > have hit the point where we  must increase prices slightly on a number
> > of our products.
> >
> > The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order
> > forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
> >
> > Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
> > about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
> > will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
> > middle getting everything entered.)
> >
> > Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
> > charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
> >
> > 73,
> > Eric
> > /elecraft.com/
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[Elecraft] Fwd: Yaesu 817ND vs Elecraft KX3 Differences for Portable Use

2016-01-28 Thread Wayne Burdick

Interesting comparison between the KX3 and the 817 by M0JCQ, a serious portable 
operator. Don't let the fact that I'm hopelessly biased influence your guess 
about which rig he prefers :)

http://www.hamblog.co.uk/yaesu-817nd-vs-elecraft-kx3-differences-for-portable-use/

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Fwd: Yaesu 817ND vs Elecraft KX3 Differences for Portable Use

2016-01-28 Thread John Kramer

Interesting read Wayne. So to sum up, the only areas the FT-817 beats the KX3 
is that
it has a better speaker and you can change the colour of the backlit display :)

That would be easy - put a better speaker in the KX3, and give it an adjustable 
blue/green or
amber backlit display…and then the FT-817 will have nothing over and above the 
KX3 :)

Come to think of it…the KX3 with a blue backlit display would look cool

73
John, ZS5J



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Interesting comparison between the KX3 and the 817 by M0JCQ, a serious portable 
operator. Don't let the fact that I'm hopelessly biased influence your guess 
about which rig he prefers :)

http://www.hamblog.co.uk/yaesu-817nd-vs-elecraft-kx3-differences-for-portable-use/
 


73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Fwd: Yaesu 817ND vs Elecraft KX3 Differences for Portable Use

2016-01-28 Thread Bill Frantz

The KX3 also lacks the 70cm band. Since our ARES/RACES group 
uses that band (on rare occasions), it would be useful for those 
activations. It would also be another band for the ARRL VHF 
contest -- backpack mode. :-)


73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/29/16 at 2:05 PM, jkra...@iafrica.com (John Kramer) wrote:


Interesting read Wayne. So to sum up, the only areas the FT-817 beats the KX3 
is that
it has a better speaker and you can change the colour of the backlit display :)


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[Elecraft] K2 enclosure top

2016-01-28 Thread hsherriff




I have a K2 top panel with speaker and aux/IO board I no longer need. Someone 
willing to pay shipping,  it's yours. Contact me off list.  
HsherriffATreaganDOTcom

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Yaesu 817ND vs Elecraft KX3 Differences for Portable Use

2016-01-28 Thread John Kramer

I have the three - FT-817ND, IC-703 plus and the KX3. I would say the IC-703 
plus presents more of
a formidable competition to the KX3 than the FT-817.
The IC-703 gives 10 watts, built-in ATU, big display (similar to the KX3) 
features where the FT-817
falls short. 
When I go outdoors, it is usually a toss-up between the KX3 and the IC-703 
plus. If the operating
environment is a little rough, then I would take the IC-703 - I don’t want to 
hurt my KX3 :) but
under all other circumstances, the KX3 is my choice. My FT-817 never cracks the 
nod, to come
along on outdoor adventures - not enough power when the bands are in bad shape, 
no built in ATU, 
and that small display that you have to squint at….nope.

73
John, ZS5J  C91J



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Interesting comparison between the KX3 and the 817 by M0JCQ, a serious portable 
operator. Don't let the fact that I'm hopelessly biased influence your guess 
about which rig he prefers :)

http://www.hamblog.co.uk/yaesu-817nd-vs-elecraft-kx3-differences-for-portable-use/
 


73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Jim Brown


On Thu,1/28/2016 2:50 PM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft wrote:

  Heil Pro 7 and/or a Heil PR-10 desk mic


Wildly over-priced and over-hyped. The Yamaha CM500 and Koss SB-45 sound 
better and more comfortable than the Heil headset at a tiny fraction of 
the cost.


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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Fwd: Yaesu 817ND vs Elecraft KX3 Differences for Portable Use

2016-01-28 Thread Walter Underwood

And even though the KX3 doesn’t have a built-in battery. Except it does. I 
added a comment about that.

wunder
K6WRU
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> On Jan 28, 2016, at 2:05 PM, John Kramer jkra...@iafrica.com [KX3] 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting read Wayne. So to sum up, the only areas the FT-817 beats the KX3 
> is that
> 
> it has a better speaker and you can change the colour of the backlit display 
> :)
> 
> That would be easy - put a better speaker in the KX3, and give it an 
> adjustable blue/green or
> amber backlit display…and then the FT-817 will have nothing over and above 
> the KX3 :)
> 
> Come to think of it…the KX3 with a blue backlit display would look cool
> 
> 73
> John, ZS5J
> 
> 
> 
> On 28 Jan 2016, at 11:51 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com 
>  [KX3]  > wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting comparison between the KX3 and the 817 by M0JCQ, a serious 
> portable operator. Don't let the fact that I'm hopelessly biased influence 
> your guess about which rig he prefers :)
> 
> http://www.hamblog.co.uk/yaesu-817nd-vs-elecraft-kx3-differences-for-portable-use/
>  
> 
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 enclosure top

2016-01-28 Thread hsherriff



Panel is gone..


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Date: 01/28/2016  5:07 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
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I have a K2 top panel with speaker and aux/IO board I no longer need. Someone 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock bug?

2016-01-28 Thread a******@sbcglobal

I must hold the record for threads hijacked by the group. 

I just wanted to report what I thought might be a bug, not re-think the whole 
clock thing. I like the clock the way it is. 

Al  W6LX


> On Jan 28, 2016, at 11:02 AM, Dave Cole  wrote:
> 
> Hi Harry,
> 
> The K3 utility app does that now...
> 
>  
> 73's, and thanks,
> Dave
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Thu, 2016-01-28 at 18:14 +, Harry Yingst wrote:
>> Even simpler would be an app the updated the time from your PC
>> 
>> My Camera does that from my tablet whenever it connects
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Dave Cole 
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 8:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock bug?
>> 
>> It would be so cool if the Elecraft clock set itself when I tune to
>> WWV, using the data WWV sends.  :)
>> -- 
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>> Dave
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Jim Brown


On Thu,1/28/2016 11:04 AM, Clay Autery wrote:

OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a
second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
spec'ing out my reduced order?

Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:

*http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
*
MH-2  Hand Mic
Waste of money. Go with a Yamaha CM500 or Koss SB-45 headset with boom 
mic. Both are comfortable, and both headphones and mic sound great.



SS30DV  Power Supply


Any regulated PSU that will do 20A at 13.8V is fine.


And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB)


I would put off buying a 6 kHz filter until you know you need it. The K3 
is sufficiently stable that AM sounds quite good with SSB decoding.



FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
both receivers)


Definitely NOT on the 2nd RX. The virtue of the 2.8 kHz filter is less 
ripple in the passband, which results in a bit less incidental AM in 
RTTY mode. That only matters in the main board.  And when we run 
diversity, it's usually to pull out super weak CW signals, so I wouldn't 
worry about matching between RX for that one.



FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)


As others have observed, remember that these are ROOFING filters, whose 
function is to protect the DSP from super-strong signals outside the 
passband. Primary IF filtering is provided in DSP. The two filters do, 
of course, cascade when they are nearly the same bandwidth, resulting in 
steeper skirts.


400 Hz is the desired bandwidth for RTTY because it has less phase shift 
in the passband than a narrower filter.  It's also a good CW filter. BUT 
-- I am a very active contester and DXer, and I mostly use the 250 Hz 
filter, and that's the one that I have in both RX.


You also want the KXV3B if it's not stock with the radio, both because 
it gives you the preamp for 6/10/12M, and a patch point for the RX 
signal path.


73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Fwd: Yaesu 817ND vs Elecraft KX3 Differences for Portable Use

2016-01-28 Thread kg9hfr...@gmail.com

Don’t touch my KX3 - lol
KG9H

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 4:05 PM, John Kramer  wrote:
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> Interesting read Wayne. So to sum up, the only areas the FT-817 beats the KX3 
> is that
> it has a better speaker and you can change the colour of the backlit display 
> :)
> 
> That would be easy - put a better speaker in the KX3, and give it an 
> adjustable blue/green or
> amber backlit display…and then the FT-817 will have nothing over and above 
> the KX3 :)
> 
> Come to think of it…the KX3 with a blue backlit display would look cool
> 
> 73
> John, ZS5J
> 
> 
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>  wrote:
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> 
> Interesting comparison between the KX3 and the 817 by M0JCQ, a serious 
> portable operator. Don't let the fact that I'm hopelessly biased influence 
> your guess about which rig he prefers :)
> 
> http://www.hamblog.co.uk/yaesu-817nd-vs-elecraft-kx3-differences-for-portable-use/
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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Bill Frantz

I like Joe's list of filters in general. But if money is tight, 
I would only get the standard 2.7 filters. Filters are easy to 
add later, and the DSP filtering is quite good unless you have 
really strong nearby stations and are trying to pick a weak 
signal out of the noise.


The kit form is a good choice for saving some money. They are 
easy to build, unless you have serious physical or visual problems.


I have the 250 Hz filters which I use to handle nearby high 
power (50+ watts) PSK signals. I also use them on CW, although 
if I am trying to pull something like VP6STI out of the noise, 
I'll narrow the DSP down to 50Hz to eliminate as much band noise 
as I can. The narrower crystal filters can help keep the pileup 
and the up cops out of the receive bandpass which avoids having 
the AGC make the DX disappear.


I, along with lots of others here, use the Yamaha CM-500 
headphones for voice modes. There are some cheaper headsets 
which have also received good reports here on the reflector.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/28/16 at 1:29 PM, li...@subich.com (Joe Subich, W4TV) wrote:


FL1:  KFL3B-FM/KFL3B-FM
FL2:  Standard/Standard (2.7 KHz)
FL3:  KFL3A-1.8 or KFL3A-2.1/KFL3A-1.8 or KFL3A-2.1
FL4:  KFL34A-400/KFL3A-400
FL5:  KFL3A-200/KFL3A-200 (when available)


On 1/28/2016 2:04 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a
second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
spec'ing out my reduced order?

...

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K3S/100K  Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
KRX3A-K  Secondary Receiver
KAT3A-K  Internal Antenna tuner
MH-2  Hand Mic
SS30DV  Power Supply

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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread RIchard Williams via Elecraft

Clay,
If you are a bit strapped for cash (or just want to wait and see what you 
REALLY need),  rather than a full house of filters, I would put my available 
funds on other "STUFF".  Remember, the filters are ROOFING filters, the DSP 
filter is the work horse for narrowing the passband. 
First thing you have to decide is what type of operator you are; and then 
decide what you need (for instance, if you are not a DXer or contester, the sub 
receiver is most likely not necessary). As for myself, I consider myself a 
"upper middle gun" DXer (top of the honor roll on SSB/Mixed and two short on CW 
- P5 and 3Y0B), and I have the sub receiver, Ant Tuner, KDVR3,  and KTCXO-3.
As for filters, I have the 6.0 KHz, 2.7 KHz, 1.8 KHz, 400 Hz, and the 200 Hz 
filters in both the main and sub receivers. To be honest with you, I have not 
found much use for the 6.0, 1.8, or 200 Hz ones (probably count on one hand the 
times I have used them).  I find the DVR very useful in recording my contacts 
(especially the ESP ones!) and being able to sit back and listen to the contact 
and make sure it was a good one.  If you are into digital modes, he high 
stability osc is nice option.  I would forget about the MH-2 (unless you are 
making up an ARES GO Kit), and spend your money you save on that and 
un-necessary roofing filters on a Heil Pro 7 and/or a Heil PR-10 desk mic. 
If you find you are in dire need of additional ROOFING Filters, you can always 
add them later. Or if you plan on operating FM (which I do not), the FM filter 
might be a good option right now.  If you are a "top dog" contester where you 
have a lot of strong stations near by,  an additional roofing filter might be 
in the cards; but I will defer addressing that need to an experienced 
contester.  
Dick, K8ZTT
 

  From: Clay Autery 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:04 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert 
for Feb 4th.
   
OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a
second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
spec'ing out my reduced order?

Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:

*http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
*
Here's the Executive summary:
K3S/100K  Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
KRX3A-K  Secondary Receiver
KAT3A-K  Internal Antenna tuner
MH-2  Hand Mic
SS30DV  Power Supply

And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB)
FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
both receivers)
FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)

Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it.  Anyone
think I should do anything different?  I'm kind of capped right around
this total.

Thanks

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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread n9tf

When I am running in a contest, the 400hz filter is perfect to be able to catch 
callers calling above and below my call freq. But, when I S or am trying to 
work a Dxpedition station, I am glad I have the 250hz filter, especially for a 
DXpedition. I will also then typically use additional DSP filter to tighten 
down to 150hz. This really helps especially when the frequency cops get going, 
as most of them will be outside of that narrow of a passband. I'm glad I went 
with the tighter filter for this purpose. 
  
Gene N9TF 

- Original Message -

From: "Bill Parris"  
To: "Michael Murphy" , "Clay Autery"  
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:53:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase
Alert for Feb 4th. 

I agree  I contest a lot, but seldom use the 250.  If I were on the 
other side of the pileup it would probably be a good idea. 

Bill, AA4R 

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Murphy 
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:43 PM 
To: Clay Autery 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase 
Alert for Feb 4th. 

When I ordered my K3 13 months ago, I spent time talking it through with 
one of the guys at Elecraft.  I considered swapping the 2.7 for the 2.8 
filter, but didn't.  Now I don't see a reason to and am glad I didn't 
bother. 

As for the 250 CW filter, I do contest, but have used it maybe once or 
twice since I've had the radio.  If I had it to do over again, I would have 
stopped at the 400hz filter. 

Mike - KI8R 

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Clay Autery  wrote: 

> OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line 
> order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a 
> second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in 
> spec'ing out my reduced order? 
> 
> Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart: 
> 
> *http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg 
> * 
> Here's the Executive summary: 
> K3S/100K  Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module 
> KRX3A-K  Secondary Receiver 
> KAT3A-K  Internal Antenna tuner 
> MH-2  Hand Mic 
> SS30DV  Power Supply 
> 
> And here's the filters I am going to end up with: 
> FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM 
> FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB) 
> FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on 
> both receivers) 
> FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently 
> working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer) 
> FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW) 
> 
> Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it.  Anyone 
> think I should do anything different?  I'm kind of capped right around 
> this total. 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> __ 
> Clay Autery 
> MONTAC Enterprises 
> (318) 518-1389 
> 
> On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: 
> > Early alert for our Elecraft list readers: 
> > 
> > We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first 
> > mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both 
> > the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of 
> > which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales 
> > team very busy. 
> > 
> > As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their 
> > prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending 
> > battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last 
> > two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we 
> > have hit the point where we  must increase prices slightly on a number 
> > of our products. 
> > 
> > The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order 
> > forms will update with the new pricing at that time. 
> > 
> > Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people 
> > about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes 
> > will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the 
> > middle getting everything entered.) 
> > 
> > Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be 
> > charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship. 
> > 
> > 73, 
> > Eric 
> > /elecraft.com/ 
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Re: [Elecraft] 10 MHz Reference Oscillator

2016-01-28 Thread Wes (N7WS)


I just got one of these.

On 1/28/2016 8:13 AM, Mike VE3YF wrote:

Kevin:

Not sure if you have made purchases etc, but Force-12 has 2 units (GPSDO) that 
are made by Leo Bodnar available that have dual outputs.


73 De Mike
VE3YF

http://www.ve3yf.com
[http://www.ve3yf.com/]
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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Bill Parris

I agree  I contest a lot, but seldom use the 250.  If I were on the 
other side of the pileup it would probably be a good idea.

Bill, AA4R

-Original Message- 
From: Michael Murphy

Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 2:43 PM
To: Clay Autery
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase 
Alert for Feb 4th.

When I ordered my K3 13 months ago, I spent time talking it through with
one of the guys at Elecraft.  I considered swapping the 2.7 for the 2.8
filter, but didn't.  Now I don't see a reason to and am glad I didn't
bother.

As for the 250 CW filter, I do contest, but have used it maybe once or
twice since I've had the radio.  If I had it to do over again, I would have
stopped at the 400hz filter.

Mike - KI8R

On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 2:04 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:

OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a
second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
spec'ing out my reduced order?

Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:

*http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
*
Here's the Executive summary:
K3S/100K  Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
KRX3A-K  Secondary Receiver
KAT3A-K  Internal Antenna tuner
MH-2  Hand Mic
SS30DV  Power Supply

And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB)
FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
both receivers)
FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)

Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it.  Anyone
think I should do anything different?  I'm kind of capped right around
this total.

Thanks

__
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MONTAC Enterprises
(318) 518-1389

On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:
>
> We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
> mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
> the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
> which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
> team very busy.
>
> As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
> prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
> battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
> two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
> have hit the point where we  must increase prices slightly on a number
> of our products.
>
> The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order
> forms will update with the new pricing at that time.
>
> Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
> about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
> will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
> middle getting everything entered.)
>
> Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
> charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.
>
> 73,
> Eric
> /elecraft.com/
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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

> FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
> FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB)

I would not bother with the KFL3A-6K .. go with the KFL3A-FM for
both FM and AM.  There is no downside to using the FM filter for
AM or ESSB transmit (if you ever do).

> FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
> both receivers)

Don't bother, you will not see the difference and the new firmware will
allow using filters with different offsets when you use diversity
reception.

> FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
> working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
> FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)

The difference in bandwidth between KFL43A-400 (435 Hz @ -6dB) and
KFL3A-250 (370 Hz @ -6dB) does not justify having both.  Save up for
the Elecraft 200 Hz filter if/when it becomes available again or get
a wider filter (Inrad 500 Hz or 700 Hz) if you want.

Although I would not start out with a "full" set of filters in both
Main/Sub RX, my recommendation would be:

FL1:  KFL3B-FM/KFL3B-FM
FL2:  Standard/Standard (2.7 KHz)
FL3:  KFL3A-1.8 or KFL3A-2.1/KFL3A-1.8 or KFL3A-2.1
FL4:  KFL34A-400/KFL3A-400
FL5:  KFL3A-200/KFL3A-200 (when available)

73,

   ... Joe, W4TV

On 1/28/2016 2:04 PM, Clay Autery wrote:

OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a
second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
spec'ing out my reduced order?

Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:

*http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
*
Here's the Executive summary:
K3S/100K  Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
KRX3A-K  Secondary Receiver
KAT3A-K  Internal Antenna tuner
MH-2  Hand Mic
SS30DV  Power Supply

And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB)
FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
both receivers)
FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)

Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it.  Anyone
think I should do anything different?  I'm kind of capped right around
this total.

Thanks

__
Clay Autery
MONTAC Enterprises
(318) 518-1389

On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:

We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
team very busy.

As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
have hit the point where we  must increase prices slightly on a number
of our products.

The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order
forms will update with the new pricing at that time.

Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
middle getting everything entered.)

Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Igor Sokolov


Clay,
I would give up so many filter leaving only both stock SSB in both RX and 
adding 400Hz CW for the main RX.
If you are into contesting or DXing I would rather swap hand mike for Heil 
IC headset.

If you are into Digi I would order KTCXO3
All the rest can be added later.

73, Igor UA9CDC
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From: "Clay Autery" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 12:04 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase 
Alert for Feb 4th.




OK...  so I don't have time to complete my stack of cash for my K-Line
order...  I've paired it back.  Anyone interested in offering me a
second pair of eyes to see if I am making any glaring mistakes in
spec'ing out my reduced order?

Here's a link to a screen shot of my shopping cart:

*http://www.montac.com/pics/Elecraft_Draft_Order.jpg
*
Here's the Executive summary:
K3S/100K  Transceiver with 100 Watt amp module
KRX3A-K  Secondary Receiver
KAT3A-K  Internal Antenna tuner
MH-2  Hand Mic
SS30DV  Power Supply

And here's the filters I am going to end up with:
FL1 - Reserved for FM/Reserved for FM
FL2 - KFL3A-6K/KFL3A-6K  (AM/eSSB)
FL3 - KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw/KFL3A-2.8_2.7sw  (trade-up to 2.8kHz/8-pole on
both receivers)
FL4 - KFL3A-400/KFL3A-400  (CW... yes, this "no-code" is diligently
working to achieve 25wpm before the end of summer)
FL5 - KFL3A-250/KFL3A-250 (CW)

Lot's of other stuff I'd LIKE to have, but just can't do it.  Anyone
think I should do anything different?  I'm kind of capped right around
this total.

Thanks

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On 1/27/2016 5:02 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

Early alert for our Elecraft list readers:

We're finally implementing the planned price changes that we first
mentioned late last year. We ended up delaying that change due to both
the large holiday season order rush and several ham shows, both of
which always generate a lot of sales sales activity and keep our sales
team very busy.

As noted before, our costs are going up as our vendors increase their
prices to us and our labor costs also increase. (Its a never ending
battle to keep costs down as economic activity has picked up the last
two years.) We've been absorbing all of these increases, but now we
have hit the point where we  must increase prices slightly on a number
of our products.

The prices will change on next Thursday, Feb. 4th.  Our on-line order
forms will update with the new pricing at that time.

Please resist the urge to call or email our sales / support people
about which specific products will be changing or how much the changes
will be, as they do not have this information. (We're still in the
middle getting everything entered.)

Of course, all orders received -prior- to the Feb 4th increase will be
charged at the lower pre-increase pricing when they ship.

73,
Eric
/elecraft.com/

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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Clay Autery

I cannot express how thankful I am for the overwhelming and helpful
response to my inquiry.
Between y'all and David, Elecraft support, I think we have a pretty good
plan in the works.

Now I have to go do my reading homework.  ;)

You all have a great evening!

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[Elecraft] Powder coat texture on Elecraft gear

2016-01-28 Thread Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197


Hi,
Does the satin black powder-coating match Elecraft?

I'm working on a addition to my KX-3 station, and now have access to 
powder-coating equipment, but don't have access to samples of various 
samples right now.


Some of you have figured this out, I'm sure.

73, doug

BTW, I've been out-of-touch, and have 25000+ email messages in the 
Elecraft and KX3 mail directories.  And that's after catching up a bit.




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Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price Increase Alert for Feb 4th.

2016-01-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV



On 1/28/2016 5:42 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:

I like Joe's list of filters in general. But if money is tight, I would
only get the standard 2.7 filters. Filters are easy to add later, and
the DSP filtering is quite good unless you have really strong nearby
stations and are trying to pick a weak signal out of the noise.


I agree with this ... I would start with FM filters (for the ability to
do FM and/or AM), 2.7 KHz filters and the 400 Hz filters.  The others
can be added later as funds are available and the need is established.

As to microphones, I would also recommend the Koss SB-45 headset and/or
an inexpensive dynamic "vocal" mic which can often be found for < $25
(e.g. Audio-Technica ATR-1300: $19.42 at B Photovideo) - far less
expensive than the overpriced and over-hyped Heil products.  Even a
step up to the Shure PGA48 will only set you back $39, half the price
of the Heil HM-12 or one quarter the price of a Heil GM.

Due to the TXEQ in the K3 there will be no difference in a 100 Hz-4 KHz
transmit bandwidth between the inexpensive and heavily promoted mics -
particularly if using VOX or a foot switch.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV
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[Elecraft] Kx3 receiver

2016-01-28 Thread J. Fielden

is the kx3 receiver RF direct sampling or ?

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[Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

2016-01-28 Thread Jerry Moore

I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use my key
and hear the sidetone during practice. 
I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
don't hear the sidetone. 
I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go over the
air) and hear what I send via computer.
Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
Thanks in advance.
Jer

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Re: [Elecraft] Powder coat texture on Elecraft gear

2016-01-28 Thread Clay Autery

I don't have any Elecraft to compare it to yet...

But the flat black I got from Witt's Powder Coating in Bossier City, LA
is an almost EXACT match with Heil boom powder coating...

Well...  since O was only doing a mic body and a suspension mount (total
of 4 small pieces), I piggy backed on their regular flat black run and
it only cost me $40 cash...

As long as I can get great service and that pricing, I won't be doing
any on my own.  :)

Night y'all... I gotta study and sleep.

73,

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On 1/28/2016 7:06 PM, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-717-1197 wrote:
> Hi,
> Does the satin black powder-coating match Elecraft?
>
> I'm working on a addition to my KX-3 station, and now have access to
> powder-coating equipment, but don't have access to samples of various
> samples right now.
>
> Some of you have figured this out, I'm sure.
>
> 73, doug
>
> BTW, I've been out-of-touch, and have 25000+ email messages in the
> Elecraft and KX3 mail directories.  And that's after catching up a bit.
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock bug?

2016-01-28 Thread David Ferrington, M0XDF

Id prefer them to work on a uMatic keyed!

-73 de M0XDF (from my iPhone)

> On 28 Jan 2016, at 12:53, Ken Talbott  wrote:
> 
> OTOH if we have bits sitting around idle, why not put them to work!
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock bug?

2016-01-28 Thread Kevin Stover


Or, barely useful fluff that would take up valuable firmware space.
The computer I do my logging on has a much more accurate clock mainly 
because of a little program that keeps it synchronized to the US Naval 
Observatory NTP server. It updates the computer clock every 15 minutes 
and then goes back to sleep. If I reboot the computer the program 
automatically syncs with USNO. Last update was 6 minutes before I wrote 
this. The computer clock was adjusted -0.002 seconds.


Why waste firmware space?

On 1/27/2016 10:44 PM, Ken wrote:

Great idea!

--WA8JXM

On 1/27/16 8:45 PM, Dave Cole wrote:

It would be so cool if the Elecraft clock set itself when I tune to
WWV, using the data WWV sends.:)






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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 in RTTY Contesting

2016-01-28 Thread Irwin Darack

Thanks to everyone regarding their comments on the KPA500 and RTTY
contesting.

Irwin KD3TB

On Wednesday, January 27, 2016, Bob McGraw K4TAX 
wrote:

> OOPS .. I forgot my Periodic table.  Heat is  not an element. But the
> same thing applies.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> On 1/27/2016 6:47 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>
>> The most destructive element to all solid state devices is. HEAT!
>>
>> The KPA500 seems well protected and will drop off line if the temperature
>> exceeds a preset level.   My only concern regarding pushing an amp like
>> this or any other solid state amp to near rated values, same for near
>> maximum heat values, what happens if the protection circuit fails?
>>  Hopefully the software will recognize a protective circuit failure and
>> shut the amp down.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock bug?

2016-01-28 Thread Ken Talbott

OTOH if we have bits sitting around idle, why not put them to work!

-Original Message-
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Stover
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:22 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Clock bug?

Or, barely useful fluff that would take up valuable firmware space.
The computer I do my logging on has a much more accurate clock mainly
because of a little program that keeps it synchronized to the US Naval
Observatory NTP 

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Re: [Elecraft] 10 MHz Reference Oscillator

2016-01-28 Thread Clay Autery

THANK YOU!!!  Filing that one away for NEXT month!  

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On 1/28/2016 9:13 AM, Mike VE3YF wrote:
> Kevin:
>
> Not sure if you have made purchases etc, but Force-12 has 2 units (GPSDO) 
> that are made by Leo Bodnar available that have dual outputs.
>
>
> 73 De Mike
> VE3YF
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Re: [Elecraft] Kx3 receiver

2016-01-28 Thread Wayne Burdick

J. Fielden  wrote:

> is the kx3 receiver RF direct sampling or ?

Hi Jim,

The KX3's architecture is pretty unique. First, we use a quadrature 
downconverter to get I and Q signals at a baseband (zero Hz) I.F. Using a zero 
I.F. allows us to insert optional high-performance analog roofing filters into 
the path, protecting the A-to-D converter and DSP from out-of-band signals. The 
roofing filter module includes a narrow filter for CW and a medium filter for 
SSB/DATA.

When the filters are installed, the KX3 has blocking dynamic range of nearly 
140 dB, higher than that of even the most advanced direct-sampling radios. (But 
not quite as high as the K3S, which uses a superhet architecture with crystal 
filters to obtain off-the-charts dynamic range in the 150 dB range.) 

With the filter module, the KX3 places 5th on Sherwood's receiver performance 
chart:

   http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Even without this module, the KX3 receiver would still be in the top ten. 

That's the long answer :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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Re: [Elecraft] An FM Filter working for AM or ??

2016-01-28 Thread valvetbone

The AM filter will not work for FM.  It's too narrow.

Art. WB8ENE

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> On Jan 28, 2016, at 8:53 PM, Doug Hensley  wrote:
> 
> Can someone unravel this for me?   IF the FM filter works for AM, does the AM 
> filter work for FM ?  If not, why not ?  Elecraft says:
> 
> ** AM and FM bandwidth filters are required on the main K3 TX/RX board for TX 
> in AM and FM modes. (Only one AM filter is required for AM TX/RX, and one FM 
> filter for FM TX/RX.) All filters can be used for RX in any mode.
> 
> So,, just what do those of us new to the K3 line need to know when choosing 
> an AM filter ?  Are they saying "Pick your transmit mode and don't worry 
> about the receive mode?"
> 
> 
> This in response to:
> 
> /Message: 7
> /Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:33:01 -0500
> /From: Art Hejduk 
> /To: Clay Autery 
> /Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
> /Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price
> /   Increase Alert for Feb 4th.
> /
> /Clay,
> /
> /The FM filter will work for both AM and FM.  That's what I chose.  Also, I
> /would (did) just get the 400Hz CW filter.
> /
> /73,
> /Art  WB8ENE
> /
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

2016-01-28 Thread Don Wilhelm


Jer,

AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends audio 
tones to the transceiver.

That will not produce CW sidetone.

There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for 
instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S.  In that case, 
you will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the sidetone if 
you turn up the monitor.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:

I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use my key
and hear the sidetone during practice.
I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
don't hear the sidetone.
I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go over the
air) and hear what I send via computer.
Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
Thanks in advance.
Jer

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AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Yaesu 817ND vs Elecraft KX3 Differences for Portable Use

2016-01-28 Thread Edward Kacura via Elecraft

I had an 817 first, then got the 703, which blew the 817 away ! 
I sold the 817 so fast, I'll never own another for any reason !
Then I got the KX3, s/n 45.
The 703 was sold, but it was a good radio, far superior to the 817 !!
The KX3 out did both !
I'm a die hard Elecraft fan for life
BTW, I also have a KX1 and K1, I reluctantly sold my K2 just recently, which 
was a great radio, I needed the room.
There are no other radios for me now but Elecraft !!
And of course there's the great customer service you get, that the "others" 
don't provide !!

Ed
N7EDK

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> On Jan 28, 2016, at 17:19, John Kramer  wrote:
> 
> C91J
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

2016-01-28 Thread Jim - N4ST

HRD/DM780 does have a CW KY mode.

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-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don
Wilhelm
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 21:41
To: Jerry Moore ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and
hear the sidetones?

Jer,

AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends audio
tones to the transceiver.
That will not produce CW sidetone.

There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for
instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S.  In that case, you
will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the sidetone if you turn
up the monitor.

73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 extra xmit frequency

2016-01-28 Thread Don Wilhelm


Bill,

Both the signal 18kHz lower than your VFO as well as the chirp are 
certainly not normal and may point to a problem with the synthesizer.
I would suggest you swap the synthesizer boards between the main and the 
sub as a test, and if that cures it, you may have a simple fix of 
contacting Elecraft to arrange a swap with the bad synth board.

OTOH, contact K3support if it is not fixed by the synth board swap.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/28/2016 2:25 AM, Bill Stravinsky via Elecraft wrote:

A friend of mine (100 miles away) recently noticed a dual signal being transmitted 
from my K3 possibly coming to lightsince I went to high power.  The problem has 
surfaced when I xmit on 40 & 80 (don't know of other instances).  Thereis a 
duplicate signal 18khz lower on cw, reduced of course but pretty loud.  The first 
cw character starts out with a chirpbut cleans up after the transmission begins, 
but still seems like its not a pure signal according to my good friend.
RADIO HISTORY: added the 2nd vfo, synth boards, newer dsp board, newer kio3
also had a K4 tell me I had strong dual signal in a recent contest (not sure 
but might have been on 20 mtrs)
Any ideas on the cause(s)??



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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

2016-01-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV




I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue
but I don't hear the sidetone.


Turn up MONI (monitor).  For more information, see the K3S Owner's
Manual.  Monitor also functions in TEST mode.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:

I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use my key
and hear the sidetone during practice.
I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
don't hear the sidetone.
I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go over the
air) and hear what I send via computer.
Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
Thanks in advance.
Jer

Jerry Moore
CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
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[Elecraft] K3 For Sale

2016-01-28 Thread Dan Reimer

Due to a rapid decline in my vision, SO2R is no longer possible for me, so
I'm selling one of my K3 Transceivers.

It is a K3-100; I built it (serial number 6064), it has no scratches, and
has always been in a smoke-free home. It includes the 

KAT3 100 W Autotuner, optional 2.8 8-pole roofing filter, manuals, and power
cord.  I don't mean to sound like the salesman selling the car "driven only
by a little-old-lady on Sunday," but, honestly, I run QRP 99% of the time,
so this has seldom been driven over 5 watts output.  It has served me well -
in 2014 it helped me finish 3rd in the QRP category of Sweepstakes, Phone.

 

$1,850.00 shipped CONUS.  Payment by money order, cashiers check, or a
personal check, provided I can wait 10 days for it to clear.  I can't afford
PayPal commission, so, sorry, no PayPal.

 

If interested, contact me off the list at ki0ov1 at charter dot net (the
address is a leftover from my old call).

 

Dan, K0ZL, formerly KI0OV

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

2016-01-28 Thread Nr4c

I think HRD does KY commands as well. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 28, 2016, at 9:41 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Jer,
> 
> AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends audio 
> tones to the transceiver.
> That will not produce CW sidetone.
> 
> There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for instance, 
> that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S.  In that case, you will be in 
> CW mode and you should be able to hear the sidetone if you turn up the 
> monitor.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
>> I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use my key
>> and hear the sidetone during practice.
>> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
>> don't hear the sidetone.
>> I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go over the
>> air) and hear what I send via computer.
>> Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Jer
>> 
>> Jerry Moore
>> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
>> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
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>> Patriotic.
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

2016-01-28 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX

If one selects MCW in DM780 and Data A on the K3S, then the audio tone 
is heard as generated by HRD/DM780.


73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10163



On 1/28/2016 8:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Jer,

AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends 
audio tones to the transceiver.

That will not produce CW sidetone.

There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for 
instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S.  In that 
case, you will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the 
sidetone if you turn up the monitor.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use 
my key

and hear the sidetone during practice.
I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
don't hear the sidetone.
I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go 
over the

air) and hear what I send via computer.
Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
Thanks in advance.
Jer

Jerry Moore
CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
Patriotic.


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Re: [Elecraft] Kx3 receiver

2016-01-28 Thread Don Wilhelm


Not direct sampling if by that you mean an ADC at the antenna.

The KX3 downconverts the signals to baseband (audio range) with a pair 
of mixers that are operated 90 degrees out of phase, then converts the 
resulting mixer outputs to digital, then processes the digital signals 
for demodulation, filtering, etc.


The KX3 can also convert to 8kHz rather than baseband if needed, but the 
use of the roofing filter is not possible when that is used.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/28/2016 8:15 PM, J. Fielden wrote:

is the kx3 receiver RF direct sampling or ?



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Re: [Elecraft] An FM Filter working for AM or ??

2016-01-28 Thread Doug Hensley

Can someone unravel this for me?   IF the FM filter works for AM, does the AM 
filter work for FM ?  If not, why not ?  Elecraft says:

** AM and FM bandwidth filters are required on the main K3 TX/RX board for TX 
in AM and FM modes. (Only one AM filter is required for AM TX/RX, and one FM 
filter for FM TX/RX.) All filters can be used for RX in any mode.

So,, just what do those of us new to the K3 line need to know when choosing an 
AM filter ?  Are they saying "Pick your transmit mode and don't worry about the 
receive mode?"


This in response to:

/Message: 7
/Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:33:01 -0500
/From: Art Hejduk 
/To: Clay Autery 
/Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
/Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Need a second set of eyes... WAS: Re: Price
 /   Increase Alert for Feb 4th.
/
/Clay,
/
/The FM filter will work for both AM and FM.  That's what I chose.  Also, I
/would (did) just get the 400Hz CW filter.
/
/73,
/Art  WB8ENE
/
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[Elecraft] Clay Autry K3S order

2016-01-28 Thread Sid Frissell

That's almost exactly what I ordered some months ago (except I sprang for the 
Panadaptor. My only regret is not getting the KD3RV Digital Voice Recorder.  
Otherwise, I am very happy with what I bought. For what I paid I have to be 
happy, happy, happy!

Sid, NZ7M

Sent From Sid Frissell's iPad

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 3:51 PM, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote:
> 
> total.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

2016-01-28 Thread Nr4c

You might need to be in CW mode to turn up the sideline. There are separate 
settings for CW and SSB I believe. 

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 28, 2016, at 8:52 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
>> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue
>> but I don't hear the sidetone.
> 
> Turn up MONI (monitor).  For more information, see the K3S Owner's
> Manual.  Monitor also functions in TEST mode.
> 
> 73,
> 
>  ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
>> On 1/28/2016 8:33 PM, Jerry Moore wrote:
>> I'm attending CW academy and having a blast. I like being able to use my key
>> and hear the sidetone during practice.
>> I use HRD and DM780. It keys my rig and will SEND CW without issue but I
>> don't hear the sidetone.
>> I'd like to be able to put the rig into test mode (so it doesn't go over the
>> air) and hear what I send via computer.
>> Is that possible? I've not found a setting for that.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Jer
>> 
>> Jerry Moore
>> CDXA, INDEXA, SKCC, Fists
>> AE4PB, K3S - S.N. 010324
>> http://www.qrz.com/db/AE4PB
>> An Amateur is - Considerate, Loyal, Progressive, Friendly, Balanced, and
>> Patriotic.
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] An FM Filter working for AM or ??

2016-01-28 Thread Bill Frantz

It used to be that you needed an AM filter for AM (6KHz 
bandwidth) and an FM filter for FM (c15KHz bandwidth). A while 
ago, a firmware update made it possible to transmit AM using the 
FM filter.


Because you can now run AM through the FM filter, there isn't a 
lot of use for it. If you run ESSB it may be useful for blocking 
nearby strong stations. It also may improve your AM signal or 
ESSB signal over using the FM filter, but I haven't seen any 
real tests of this possibility.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 1/29/16 at 5:53 PM, w...@hotmail.com (Doug Hensley) wrote:

Can someone unravel this for me?   IF the FM filter works for 
AM, does the AM filter work for FM ?  If not, why not ?  
Elecraft says:


** AM and FM bandwidth filters are required on the main K3 
TX/RX board for TX in AM and FM modes. (Only one AM filter is 
required for AM TX/RX, and one FM filter for FM TX/RX.) All 
filters can be used for RX in any mode.


So,, just what do those of us new to the K3 line need to know 
when choosing an AM filter ?  Are they saying "Pick your 
transmit mode and don't worry about the receive mode?"


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Re: [Elecraft] For Sale: K3 Filters

2016-01-28 Thread Joe Word

The filters are sold pending payment.

Joe  N9VX

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Joe Word  wrote:

> K3 filters for sale:
>
> KFLA3A-6K  $105 shipped.
>
> KBPF3A  General coverage  $140 shipped.
>
> Shipped to CONUS only, payment by money order, Cashier's check or
> cash. No Paypal. Contact me at n9vx dot joe at gmail dot com
>
>  Thanks and 73,
>
>  Joe  N9VX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S - Is there a way to send CW via USB computer and hear the sidetones?

2016-01-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV




AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends
audio tones to the transceiver.


DM780 will do "KY" (CW [KY Cmd]), it will use a Winkeyer (CW [Winkey]),
or it will flip a line on a serial port (CW) in addition to using audio
tones in DATA A (CW [SSB]).  Any of the first three options will key
the K3/K3S sidetone (MONI).

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 1/28/2016 9:41 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Jer,

AFAIK, the only way HRD/DM780 sends CW is in DATA A mode and sends audio
tones to the transceiver.
That will not produce CW sidetone.

There are a few other applications - K3 Utility Terminal window for
instance, that send CW by sending KY commands to the K3S.  In that case,
you will be in CW mode and you should be able to hear the sidetone if
you turn up the monitor.

73,
Don W3FPR



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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

2016-01-28 Thread Rick Tavan

W4TV mentioned RUMlog et al to me in response to my posting. I installed
the general QSO logger and it does, indeed, look good. It doesn't support
all my hardware so I'm not likely to adopt it myself, but it does look like
a viable logging package for MacOS for most users.

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:

> Allow me to disagree with Jim and Rick on this issue and recommend some
> native Mac programs. I have used RUMlog (a general purpose log program) and
> RUMped (a contest logger) for several years. They are mature programs and
> Thomas, DL2RUM provides excellent support. He has a new logging program,
> RUMlogNG which provides the functionality of both programs and is available
> at not cost through the Apple App store.
>
> I just installed RUMlogNG yesterday, and am still getting it set up. It
> will cooperate with fldigi to provide digital modes and will directly run a
> K3 or KX3. Since the K3S is operationally the same as the K3 as far as
> computer control is concerned, it should also "just work".
>
> NOTE: If anyone wants to load old QSOs into RUMlogNG, read the getting
> started documentation first.
>
> I am also a big fan of cocoaModem for digital modes. It supports decoding
> both the main and sub receivers, which is nice for working pileups.
>
> For information on ham radio programs for the Mac, see <
> http://www.machamradio.com/>.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
>
> On 1/27/16 at 10:51 AM, a4...@sy-edm.com (a45wg) wrote:
>
> Fellow Hams,
>> I received my K3-S a few weeks ago - and I have been marvelling at it’s
>> features. I still am awaiting the arrival of a rotator - and them I will
>> hoist some Yagi’s up… but in the meantime - I am enjoying the awesome RX/TX
>> on this radio….
>>
>> I used to be quite an active contest station (alas no 4x4x4 here) - on
>> CW/SSB and Occasionally RTTY - so please may I ask for some steerage/advice
>> regarding the best way to connect a K3-S to a PC so I can automate some of
>> the repetition of contest work …. I fully understand and accept "DE TEST”
>> is not everyone’s cup of tea… But I enjoy it at times.
>>
>> It appears that WinKeyer is popular - will that suffice just for CW ? How
>> about Data Modes ??
>>
>> I would prefer not to have 3 or 4 options - but too keep things simple.
>> In the “old days” I used to use a SignaLink - which I found flexible and
>> worthwhile.
>>
>>
>> OS for PC:  Linux or Mac - NOT Windows
>>
>> Many thanks for taking the time to read this
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim - A45WG
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3-S - CW Keying for Contests

2016-01-28 Thread Rick Tavan

:-)  Don't forget about the support, either, Jim. N1MM support is
excellent, with developers responding quickly to most questions on the
reflector and releasing new stuff almost every week. Writelog support is
opaque and rare. Like you, I haven't looked back since first trying MM+.

73,

/Rick N6XI

On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:31 PM, Jim Brown 
wrote:

>
> FWIW -- I started with WriteLog in 2003, used it for four years. Friend
> AE6RF was running FD for our group and declared that we were using N1MM, so
> I downloaded and learned it. Within four months, I had abandoned WriteLog,
> and I've never looked back. It wasn't the cost, it was the features!
>

-- 

Rick Tavan
Truckee, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Kx3 receiver

2016-01-28 Thread Igor Sokolov

Most of the time I cannot use zero IF because of the direct AM detection. I 
could not do that even far away from strong AM transmitters while operating 
from Maldives. I end up setting 8 kHz IF in the radio and using it all the 
time. This means that analog roofing is useless for me and blocking dynamic 
range is degraded to the extend that operation of 2 radio on the same band 
with separated antennas or sometimes even different bands(SO2R or MS 
environment) is not possible with KX3 even though it is possible with a pair 
of K3. KX3 is travelers radio for single op and it mates well with Expert 
1.3K-FA. The latter requires only 5-7 Watt to give you 1 KW out.


73, Igor UA9CDC

- Original Message - 
From: "Wayne Burdick" 

To: "J. Fielden" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kx3 receiver



J. Fielden  wrote:


is the kx3 receiver RF direct sampling or ?


Hi Jim,

The KX3's architecture is pretty unique. First, we use a quadrature 
downconverter to get I and Q signals at a baseband (zero Hz) I.F. Using a 
zero I.F. allows us to insert optional high-performance analog roofing 
filters into the path, protecting the A-to-D converter and DSP from 
out-of-band signals. The roofing filter module includes a narrow filter 
for CW and a medium filter for SSB/DATA.


When the filters are installed, the KX3 has blocking dynamic range of 
nearly 140 dB, higher than that of even the most advanced direct-sampling 
radios. (But not quite as high as the K3S, which uses a superhet 
architecture with crystal filters to obtain off-the-charts dynamic range 
in the 150 dB range.)


With the filter module, the KX3 places 5th on Sherwood's receiver 
performance chart:


  http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

Even without this module, the KX3 receiver would still be in the top ten.

That's the long answer :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR


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