[Elecraft] Recent Elecraft SSB Net Check-in lists
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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Hi Joe, > > > On 11/13/2017 9:01 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > > > > The only way I can reproduce the problem > > every time ( And FWIW, PTT-Key is set to > > off-off) is to go into the WSJT-X > > settings, select Radio, click on test PTT > > and it creates this exact condition. If I > > exit settings without clicking on Test PTT > > again to shut the state off, the K3s is > > then left in this transmit state with no > > RF being made. > > That's because "Test PTT" in WSJT-X is a *TOGGLE* > exactly like the XMIT button on the front of the > K3. By clicking "Test PTT" only once, you are > placing the K3 into transmit and *NEVER* switching > it back to receive! WSTJ-X and the K3 are both > doing *exactly* what you told it to do. ### I used that as an example of the state I find sometimes find the K3s in. There is something unique to WSJT-X that no other software does that makes this happen, I only find it randomly if I am using WSJT-X. Never experienced it before WSJT-X and never with any other situation/software. > > > The problem appears to me to be a still > > buggy WSJT-X issue that the authors have > > not yet become interested in attending to. > > WSJT-X is not buggy. The radio control interface > does not handle asynchronous data and it was not > designed to do so. That means you *must* disable > AI1; (set AI0;) in the K3 command (no automatic > information reports) and *MUST NOT* share control > of the K3 with any other software - where that > software will poll the K3 and cause it to generate > any unexpected data to hamlib (the WSJT-X control > module). ### WSJT-X is the only software I use that does this. The others share control as in N1MM and MMTTY, Logic & FLDigi working fine together. Logic runs beautifully with N1MM and MMTTY, no conflicts of any kind. If they can do this flawlessly, it is not unreasonable to expect WSJT-X to play nice as well. > > Your complaint really belongs on the WSJT-X list > and not the Elecraft list. ### I disagree. As is so often the situation when someone has an issue with Company A's product and Company B's product is being used and there is a conflict... the stock answer is that problem belongs to the other company, ask them what to do. It's an old saw and in this case, I'm told I should ask on the other list. Everyone feels it's the other guy's fault and that question belongs elsewhere. Ask there and they tell you how the K3 is non standard and to ask on the Elecraft list. The person in the middle gets trashed on both sides. I've experienced this for so long I've come to like trash. As I said in the words below, I was asking on the Elecraft list if others had experienced this problem. My original statement was: "Anyone experience this and figure out how to prevent it?" Where better to ask than a place devoted to this type of radio if others have the problem and if so, how to resolve it. When I first started with WSJT-X I asked on the WSJT-X reflector and was told quite clearly if I want to use it, I had to run it directly to the port for the K3, no other control software should be running at the same time and if I wanted to use logging I had to use JT Alert and have my logging done via that. I was also told virtual ports are nothing but trouble, not to use them with WSJT-X and there is no help for those that use them. It seems to me there's a lot of attitude on that list. FWIW, I did find I can use a virtual port with it # "10" If I assign any other numerical value it will not work. Won't work with Win 7, I tried for hours but with this computer & Win 10, WSJT-X works on virtual port 10. All the other software works on whatever virtual port I tell it to work on. WSJT-X is not yet user friendly, I suspect it will become more so over time. If I had the skills I would be happy to help make that so. My skills lie in other areas; want someone to help keep you alive following a traumatic injury? I can do that. Write software? I can't do that. 73, Gary KA1J > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 11/13/2017 9:01 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > > Folks, > > > > I seem to have ignited a fire-storm that > > was not at all what I was trying to > > accomplish, I was just stating an issue > > and asking if others had experienced this > > and it seems like the topic has taken on > > legs. > > > > I am a novice at WSJT-X but I can't help > > but feel that it is a program that is > > genius but immature. I say this expressly > > because I run N1MM, MMTTY, logic 9 and my > > GPSDO all with LP bridge but WSJT-X wants > > to have total dominion over the operating > > system as far as the ports go. > > > > I have found a way to finagle it to work > > with LP bridge but not because WSJT-X has > > any interest in that being the case. > > Considering how many people are having > > trouble with ports and that program, it > > seems like the problem to me is within the > > program itself and how it
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
On 11/13/2017 9:01 PM, Gary Smith wrote: > > The only way I can reproduce the problem > every time ( And FWIW, PTT-Key is set to > off-off) is to go into the WSJT-X > settings, select Radio, click on test PTT > and it creates this exact condition. If I > exit settings without clicking on Test PTT > again to shut the state off, the K3s is > then left in this transmit state with no > RF being made. That's because "Test PTT" in WSJT-X is a *TOGGLE* exactly like the XMIT button on the front of the K3. By clicking "Test PTT" only once, you are placing the K3 into transmit and *NEVER* switching it back to receive! WSTJ-X and the K3 are both doing *exactly* what you told it to do. > The problem appears to me to be a still > buggy WSJT-X issue that the authors have > not yet become interested in attending to. WSJT-X is not buggy. The radio control interface does not handle asynchronous data and it was not designed to do so. That means you *must* disable AI1; (set AI0;) in the K3 command (no automatic information reports) and *MUST NOT* share control of the K3 with any other software - where that software will poll the K3 and cause it to generate any unexpected data to hamlib (the WSJT-X control module). Your complaint really belongs on the WSJT-X list and not the Elecraft list. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 11/13/2017 9:01 PM, Gary Smith wrote: Folks, I seem to have ignited a fire-storm that was not at all what I was trying to accomplish, I was just stating an issue and asking if others had experienced this and it seems like the topic has taken on legs. I am a novice at WSJT-X but I can't help but feel that it is a program that is genius but immature. I say this expressly because I run N1MM, MMTTY, logic 9 and my GPSDO all with LP bridge but WSJT-X wants to have total dominion over the operating system as far as the ports go. I have found a way to finagle it to work with LP bridge but not because WSJT-X has any interest in that being the case. Considering how many people are having trouble with ports and that program, it seems like the problem to me is within the program itself and how it approaches using ports. If the other programs can use the virtual ports without issue, it doesn't make sense that WSJT-X has to have dominion. I'm sure that after enough complaints and enough time, that the authors will attend to this problem. It is only when I use WSJT-X that I have the issue that I mentioned in my initial post which is hanging of the transmit function without sending RF out the antenna. No other program or situation causes this to happen, only WSJT-X so as far as I'm concerned it is a buggy program but a genius program at the same time, what it does is amazing and it is free no less. My only interest in posting was to find if somebody has found a way of getting around this bug. When it comes to the idea of RF getting back in the shack, I never get any RF back in the shack to disturb anything when I use my antennas that are almost 400 feet from the house using 1 inch hardline get to them. The only time I ever have any issue with RF in the shack is if I use the tri-band on top of the house and I rarely use that because of RFI in the neighborhood. For this transmit-state issue to happen when I am running barefoot to an antenna almost 400 feet away which is tuned beautifully and I need no transmatch and me running barefoot... it is not RFI in the shack causing this problem. I do lay it squarely on the shoulders of the WSJT-X software for it never ever happens at any other time then when I am running this specific software. I really don't want this topic to run to the point that it becomes something Eric has to shut down so maybe it's best just to leave it and I will keep pushing a button on the front panel to unlock the transmit condition when it engages when WSJT-X goes rogue. The only way I can reproduce the problem every time ( And FWIW, PTT-Key is set to off-off) is to go into the WSJT-X settings, select Radio, click on test PTT and it creates this exact condition. If I exit settings without clicking on Test PTT again to shut the state off, the K3s is then left in this transmit state with no RF being made. The solution is to tap a button on the K3s front panel and all is fine again. The problem appears to me to be a still buggy WSJT-X issue that the authors have not yet become interested in attending to. I would just like to know how to have a workaround to get around this error until they fix it. As it is it has become tiresome. 73, Gary KA1J For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find the K3s is locked as transmit but there is no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. Looking at the P3 I see a jitter on the upper half of the screen as if there was a tiny output but no Rf is seen on any of the three SWR meters in line (K3s, AP3 & LP-100A). I couldn't get WSJT to receive, looked at the settings, all were correct and as is sometimes needed with WSJT-X, I rebooted to get it to work properly
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Hi, Just hooked up a sniffer to WSJT and the PTT CAT commands are correct, putting it into transmit when appropriate and out as well. (Unless there is an intermittent bug). If the radio menu for PPT-KEY is OFF-OFF it cannot get put into transmit via hardware. So, DTR signals do nothing. There will be no issue when you power up your PC etc. Since the K3 will go into transmit anyways, the most likely item then is LPBridge (which the OP said he was using) OR VOX is enabled on the line-in in the rear and the sensitivity is just too high. 73 Tom -Original Message- From: Gary Smith Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:12 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find the K3s is locked as transmit but there is no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. Looking at the P3 I see a jitter on the upper half of the screen as if there was a tiny output but no Rf is seen on any of the three SWR meters in line (K3s, AP3 & LP-100A). I couldn't get WSJT to receive, looked at the settings, all were correct and as is sometimes needed with WSJT-X, I rebooted to get it to work properly but it still did not lock onto the K3s frequency. Rebooted again and then I realized the K3s was in that TX condition with both the red & yellow LEDs lit and that jitter on the P3 upper screen. This happens every so often and what I have to do is touch any of the buttons on the K3s and it disengages this situation. I did that to deal with the issue I mentioned above. I could restart the K3s but then I'd have to restart LP-Bridge and wait, so I use the quick fix. Anyone experience this and figure out how to prevent it? Thanks! 73, Gary KA1J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
I've done some testing. I have a good selection of Times LMR-400-ULTRAFLEX jumpers that I stocked up on from MPD Digital. Never had a problem with any of their cables and so far it's looking like they are all good. I set things up as Radio <--> KPA500 <--> DL1500 with new cables in between and the KAT500 removed from the chain. Running the radio to 10 watts the radio showed 1.25:1 SWR while the amp was in standby. When in operate, the SWR on the radio maxed out. I fired up KPA500 Remote and bumped the radio up to 20 watts. In standby, radio showing 1.25:1 SWR KPA500 remote reported Power: 18 w (that's typical) SWR: 1.1:1 Current: PTT OFF (typical in standby) Voltage: 74.8 Temp: 22 C Switched the amp to operated, radio still at 20. KPA500 remote reported Power: 0 W SWR: NO RF Current: PTT OFF Voltage: 74.8 Temp: 22 C It's like standby/operate is switching between straight-through and open. It seems to be falling into place with Brian's description of his recent problem. I heard no cracks, booms, or sizzles. Smelled no smoke or ozone. It just started giving me problems intermittently and seems to have finally settled down into a broke state. Working with Elecraft to troubleshoot and will share any findings that might be helpful or garner sympathy. ;) 73, Kev K4VD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Folks, I seem to have ignited a fire-storm that was not at all what I was trying to accomplish, I was just stating an issue and asking if others had experienced this and it seems like the topic has taken on legs. I am a novice at WSJT-X but I can't help but feel that it is a program that is genius but immature. I say this expressly because I run N1MM, MMTTY, logic 9 and my GPSDO all with LP bridge but WSJT-X wants to have total dominion over the operating system as far as the ports go. I have found a way to finagle it to work with LP bridge but not because WSJT-X has any interest in that being the case. Considering how many people are having trouble with ports and that program, it seems like the problem to me is within the program itself and how it approaches using ports. If the other programs can use the virtual ports without issue, it doesn't make sense that WSJT-X has to have dominion. I'm sure that after enough complaints and enough time, that the authors will attend to this problem. It is only when I use WSJT-X that I have the issue that I mentioned in my initial post which is hanging of the transmit function without sending RF out the antenna. No other program or situation causes this to happen, only WSJT-X so as far as I'm concerned it is a buggy program but a genius program at the same time, what it does is amazing and it is free no less. My only interest in posting was to find if somebody has found a way of getting around this bug. When it comes to the idea of RF getting back in the shack, I never get any RF back in the shack to disturb anything when I use my antennas that are almost 400 feet from the house using 1 inch hardline get to them. The only time I ever have any issue with RF in the shack is if I use the tri-band on top of the house and I rarely use that because of RFI in the neighborhood. For this transmit-state issue to happen when I am running barefoot to an antenna almost 400 feet away which is tuned beautifully and I need no transmatch and me running barefoot... it is not RFI in the shack causing this problem. I do lay it squarely on the shoulders of the WSJT-X software for it never ever happens at any other time then when I am running this specific software. I really don't want this topic to run to the point that it becomes something Eric has to shut down so maybe it's best just to leave it and I will keep pushing a button on the front panel to unlock the transmit condition when it engages when WSJT-X goes rogue. The only way I can reproduce the problem every time ( And FWIW, PTT-Key is set to off-off) is to go into the WSJT-X settings, select Radio, click on test PTT and it creates this exact condition. If I exit settings without clicking on Test PTT again to shut the state off, the K3s is then left in this transmit state with no RF being made. The solution is to tap a button on the K3s front panel and all is fine again. The problem appears to me to be a still buggy WSJT-X issue that the authors have not yet become interested in attending to. I would just like to know how to have a workaround to get around this error until they fix it. As it is it has become tiresome. 73, Gary KA1J > For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find > the K3s is locked as transmit but there is > no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. > > Looking at the P3 I see a jitter on the > upper half of the screen as if there was a > tiny output but no Rf is seen on any of > the three SWR meters in line (K3s, AP3 & > LP-100A). > > I couldn't get WSJT to receive, looked at > the settings, all were correct and as is > sometimes needed with WSJT-X, I rebooted > to get it to work properly but it still > did not lock onto the K3s frequency. > Rebooted again and then I realized the K3s > was in that TX condition with both the red > & yellow LEDs lit and that jitter on the > P3 upper screen. > > This happens every so often and what I > have to do is touch any of the buttons on > the K3s and it disengages this situation. > I did that to deal with the issue I > mentioned above. I could restart the K3s > but then I'd have to restart LP-Bridge and > wait, so I use the quick fix. > > Anyone experience this and figure out how > to prevent it? > > Thanks! > > 73, > > Gary > KA1J > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to g...@ka1j.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Pl
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
On PL-259 connectors, make sure they are more than finger tight. I use a pair of 4" Channel Lock pliers to snug mine after they are finger tight. Today's PL-259's may look good but indeed with many of them today, the plating is crap!. Same for coax cable and the way it gets terminated inside the PL-259. The cable frequently works loose and causes intermittent connections which may not show up at 100 watts or less. In my practice, if I find a bad cable, I immediately chop the suspect PL-259 off of one end. That way the cable can not be accidentally used until it is properly repaired and checked with a dummy load and my impedance bridge or antenna bridge. 73 Bob, K4TAX __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Thank you Joe for going public with that instead of private email! I will not respond other than this. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 7:46 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > Use software PTT in the applications while W4TV figures out what is > going on with the MicorHam gear. Damn it Don! *DON"T TELL USERS HOW TO USE MICROHAM PRODUCTS* The microHAM instructions are very clear - *NEVER USE CAT FOR PTT* YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS HANDING OUT INSTRUCTIONS THAT VIOLATE THOSE OF THE MANUFACTURER. How would you like it if I told Elecraft users to run their transceivers at 24 V to minimize IMD in the power amp? Using CAT for PTT results in hot switching of amplifiers, antenna relays, and other devices like antenna preamps while using hardware PTT assures proper operation of sequencing circuits that assure audio, external antenna switches, amplifiers, etc are switched *before* the transceiver is placed into transmit. Even the K3 PTT to RF delay is not sufficient to accommodate switching delay in old amplifiers, EME sequencers or the LNA/preamp bypass relays for external (active) receive antennas. Are all those having a similar problem using MicroHam something? or does it occur with other interfaces. It occurs with other manufacturers products and CAT PTT - nearly every manufacturer has a race condition in their controls when CAT and hardware are mixed. Since CAT PTT has serious problems with hot switching and most software includes specific PTT to CW and PTT to Audio delays specifically to avoid hot switching, use of *HARDWARE* PTT is always the smart choice. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 11/13/2017 7:08 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Bert and all, Use software PTT in the applications while W4TV figures out what is going on with the MicorHam gear. Are all those having a similar problem using MicroHam something? or does it occur with other interfaces. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 7:00 PM, Bert Garcia N8NN wrote: The CAT and PTT are on different COM ports, per the installation instructions for the microKEYER II when using WSTJ-X. And it's not a stray RF problem as I have all the equipment bonded together, ferrite cores on the audio and control lines, a line isolator in the feedline where it enters the house, and line isolators between the rig and amp and between the amp and antenna tuner. The lockup happens when running only 30 watts with FT8. It never happens when running a KW on many other modes. I run RTTY, PSK and other digital modes with no problems. Thus, I suspect the issue is associated with the WSRJ-X software as the same issue occurs with various transceivers in multiple locations. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3S RX antenna switching questions
Steve, I suspect that increasing the TX Delay will *not* fix that problem. Since at greater than 50 watts, you hear relays clicking indicates that the K3S COR is being activated. The solution is to either move your RX antenna further from the TX antenna or use some device that disconnects or grounds the RX antenna while transmitting. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 7:26 PM, Steve Steltzer via Elecraft wrote: Here's the setup : 3 month old K3S. Full wave 80 mtr RX loop. Closest point to TX antenna is around 200 ft. Over 50 watts I hear relays clicking and stations have a hard time breaking in even using QRQ plus. I assume the RX antenna is not switching fast enough and I'm getting milliseconds of high RF into the front end and protection relays are kicking in??? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
> Use software PTT in the applications while W4TV figures out what is > going on with the MicorHam gear. Damn it Don! *DON"T TELL USERS HOW TO USE MICROHAM PRODUCTS* The microHAM instructions are very clear - *NEVER USE CAT FOR PTT* YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS HANDING OUT INSTRUCTIONS THAT VIOLATE THOSE OF THE MANUFACTURER. How would you like it if I told Elecraft users to run their transceivers at 24 V to minimize IMD in the power amp? Using CAT for PTT results in hot switching of amplifiers, antenna relays, and other devices like antenna preamps while using hardware PTT assures proper operation of sequencing circuits that assure audio, external antenna switches, amplifiers, etc are switched *before* the transceiver is placed into transmit. Even the K3 PTT to RF delay is not sufficient to accommodate switching delay in old amplifiers, EME sequencers or the LNA/preamp bypass relays for external (active) receive antennas. Are all those having a similar problem using MicroHam something? or does it occur with other interfaces. It occurs with other manufacturers products and CAT PTT - nearly every manufacturer has a race condition in their controls when CAT and hardware are mixed. Since CAT PTT has serious problems with hot switching and most software includes specific PTT to CW and PTT to Audio delays specifically to avoid hot switching, use of *HARDWARE* PTT is always the smart choice. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 11/13/2017 7:08 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: Bert and all, Use software PTT in the applications while W4TV figures out what is going on with the MicorHam gear. Are all those having a similar problem using MicroHam something? or does it occur with other interfaces. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 7:00 PM, Bert Garcia N8NN wrote: The CAT and PTT are on different COM ports, per the installation instructions for the microKEYER II when using WSTJ-X. And it's not a stray RF problem as I have all the equipment bonded together, ferrite cores on the audio and control lines, a line isolator in the feedline where it enters the house, and line isolators between the rig and amp and between the amp and antenna tuner. The lockup happens when running only 30 watts with FT8. It never happens when running a KW on many other modes. I run RTTY, PSK and other digital modes with no problems. Thus, I suspect the issue is associated with the WSRJ-X software as the same issue occurs with various transceivers in multiple locations. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Wstj-x has a lot of issues communicating with rigs. What I have found is For example, on the k3, it will change modes before it changes bands. The result, when you are on the new band you are in the wrong mode. On the Yaesu ftdx radios, it puts the radio into USB instead of data mode for transmit, and rtty mode for receive. It does not handle split correctly on the ftdx radios either. This is more important for yaesu rigs because they can have per mode parameters for gain and so on. It is quite possible it is doing something wrong when it comes to Dtr control. On the other hand you can try to use the omnirig entry in wsjt x for control, but it also has mode issues. Not sure about the k3. That may work better. 73 Tom Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Bert Garcia N8NN Date: 2017-11-13 7:00 PM (GMT-05:00) To: donw...@embarqmail.com, g...@ka1j.com, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx The CAT and PTT are on different COM ports, per the installation instructions for the microKEYER II when using WSTJ-X. And it's not a stray RF problem as I have all the equipment bonded together, ferrite cores on the audio and control lines, a line isolator in the feedline where it enters the house, and line isolators between the rig and amp and between the amp and antenna tuner. The lockup happens when running only 30 watts with FT8. It never happens when running a KW on many other modes. I run RTTY, PSK and other digital modes with no problems. Thus, I suspect the issue is associated with the WSRJ-X software as the same issue occurs with various transceivers in multiple locations. Bert N8NN -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:17 PM To: n...@earthlink.net; g...@ka1j.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx Bert and Gary, Have you looked for a computer problem? Such as having both PTT via command and via an RS-232 signal line? Do you have both VOX on and another means of keying the transceiver? 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 3:07 PM, Bert Garcia N8NN wrote: > This problem is not unique to the K3. My Yaesu FT-1000mp does the > same thing -- locks up in transmit mode with no RF output and I have > to turn it off to regain control. The lock up is intermittent, and > some days it never happens. Rebooting everything works for a while, > but when I least expect it, the lockups will start again. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
> > > The roofing filter may have a fair amount of group delay inequality at > the edges of the passband, which can lead to inter-symbol interference > on digital modes. I WSJT-X can run split. In split mode, it will adjust the Tx frequency so that the audio tones are always near the middle of the the passband. -ch 73 de AI6KG On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Richard Lamont wrote: > On 13/11/17 20:18, Jim Brown wrote: > > On 11/13/2017 11:12 AM, Gary Smith wrote: > >> For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find > >> the K3s is locked as transmit but there is > >> no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. > > > > I've been using WSJT-X since it was first introduced several years ago, > > and I've never had this problem. I've always used VOX to put the rig in > > TX mode, as I do with SSB and all digital modes. I've often run with a > > power amp that uses a vacuum relay for T/R switching, and there's > > sufficient delay within the K3 and K3s for the amp's T/R relay to switch. > > You may be putting the performance of your station at a disadvantage > with that approach, compared to using WSJT-X with CAT to keep TX audio > in the range 1500-2000 Hz. > > The roofing filter may have a fair amount of group delay inequality at > the edges of the passband, which can lead to inter-symbol interference > on digital modes. I don't know how serious, if at all, this is in > practice, but I know one very clever engineer who regards it as enough > of a problem to have had a custom roofing filter manufactured for his K3 > to reduce it. He mainly works EME with JT65. > > > 73, > Richard G4DYA > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to c...@murgatroid.com > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
Kevin der Kinderen wrote: > I'm a bit surprised that's the conclusion as simply bypassing or turning > off the amp but leaving it connected made the problem go away. I have some > good cable on there now but can replace each one of them to try it out. > I'll report back later on. I really hope it is just this. > I had a similar problem recemntly due to a SC diode in the TR switch, all OK on bypass but not on operate. After changing diode (and checking associated bits I has problems with power/dissipation on 10 and 6m cured by using a diode from a different batch. However, after re-assembly I had intermittent lack of RX, traced to a relay card used externally for buffering a relay. At the time this board was unpowered but still in circuit and was holding the KPA500 on TX. A simple bypass proved it was the culprit and putting its 12v power back on fixed it for good. -- Brian D G3VGZ YarmEngland __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
What Joe, eluded earlier is actually true in some cases. Software can bombard the serial port with so many commands, without listening to a response and then issue the cat command. The problem there is the radio is processing all the other commands and the PTT is delayed. In wsjt if you are using it alone with the native cat support and a k3, the data rate is very low, not like something like n1mm. There you can use the cat commands for Ptt without any issues. On the other hand, just turning the computer on can toggle the dtr and thus the radio can go into transmit. There it requires disabling advanced parameters in the serial port drivers, to turn off interrogation of ports. 73 Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Don Wilhelm Date: 2017-11-13 7:08 PM (GMT-05:00) To: n...@earthlink.net, g...@ka1j.com, Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx Bert and all, Use software PTT in the applications while W4TV figures out what is going on with the MicorHam gear. Are all those having a similar problem using MicroHam something? or does it occur with other interfaces. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 7:00 PM, Bert Garcia N8NN wrote: > The CAT and PTT are on different COM ports, per the installation instructions > for the microKEYER II when using WSTJ-X. And it's not a stray RF problem as > I have all the equipment bonded together, ferrite cores on the audio and > control lines, a line isolator in the feedline where it enters the house, and > line isolators between the rig and amp and between the amp and antenna tuner. > The lockup happens when running only 30 watts with FT8. It never happens > when running a KW on many other modes. I run RTTY, PSK and other digital > modes with no problems. > > Thus, I suspect the issue is associated with the WSRJ-X software as the same > issue occurs with various transceivers in multiple locations. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3S RX antenna switching questions
Here's the setup : 3 month old K3S. Full wave 80 mtr RX loop. Closest point to TX antenna is around 200 ft. Over 50 watts I hear relays clicking and stations have a hard time breaking in even using QRQ plus. I assume the RX antenna is not switching fast enough and I'm getting milliseconds of high RF into the front end and protection relays are kicking in??? Will increasing TX delay help this? If so, how much can I increase it from the factory setting of 008 before the keying gets choppy running 50 to 60 wpm? Are there other settings that would affect this? I also run an Acom 2000A from time to time, which has pin diode T/R switching and, according to reports, does QSK perfectly at those speeds. I don't want to mess that up either. Thanks,Steve, WF3T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Bert and all, Use software PTT in the applications while W4TV figures out what is going on with the MicorHam gear. Are all those having a similar problem using MicroHam something? or does it occur with other interfaces. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 7:00 PM, Bert Garcia N8NN wrote: The CAT and PTT are on different COM ports, per the installation instructions for the microKEYER II when using WSTJ-X. And it's not a stray RF problem as I have all the equipment bonded together, ferrite cores on the audio and control lines, a line isolator in the feedline where it enters the house, and line isolators between the rig and amp and between the amp and antenna tuner. The lockup happens when running only 30 watts with FT8. It never happens when running a KW on many other modes. I run RTTY, PSK and other digital modes with no problems. Thus, I suspect the issue is associated with the WSRJ-X software as the same issue occurs with various transceivers in multiple locations. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Intro to FT8 powerpoint presentation
Permission to use that information is granted. You may include it in your presentations or provide the .pdf file as a link. Edit if you desire, as long as you retain the "4 to 5 bars of ALC" information and that Elecraft transceivers are unique in that regard. 73, Don W3FPR -- Larry and all, Good information. For those using Elecraft transceivers, also refer to the article on my website www.w3fpr.com about setting the audio level. The Elecraft transceivers are unique in this regard. On my website, scroll to the bottom of the left column and click the link to the article. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 7:06 AM, Larry (K8UT) wrote: Several weeks ago there was a series of reflector posts by hams looking for materials on FT8 to use in PPT presentations. I had offered to post my slides after delivering to the SEMDXA club meeting on 11/10. The 27 MB ZIP file contains the .pptx file, two videos (stand-along and log-integrated operation) and a README file. www.semdxa.org >File Gallery >Presentations, "Intro to FT8 presentation by K8UT" or http://www.semdxa.org/download/presentations/IntroToFT8_presentation_byK8UT.zip Anyone is welcome to cut/copy/plagiarize as they require. Corrections and comments would be appreciated - direct to my email address. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
The CAT and PTT are on different COM ports, per the installation instructions for the microKEYER II when using WSTJ-X. And it's not a stray RF problem as I have all the equipment bonded together, ferrite cores on the audio and control lines, a line isolator in the feedline where it enters the house, and line isolators between the rig and amp and between the amp and antenna tuner. The lockup happens when running only 30 watts with FT8. It never happens when running a KW on many other modes. I run RTTY, PSK and other digital modes with no problems. Thus, I suspect the issue is associated with the WSRJ-X software as the same issue occurs with various transceivers in multiple locations. Bert N8NN -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:17 PM To: n...@earthlink.net; g...@ka1j.com; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx Bert and Gary, Have you looked for a computer problem? Such as having both PTT via command and via an RS-232 signal line? Do you have both VOX on and another means of keying the transceiver? 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 3:07 PM, Bert Garcia N8NN wrote: > This problem is not unique to the K3. My Yaesu FT-1000mp does the > same thing -- locks up in transmit mode with no RF output and I have > to turn it off to regain control. The lock up is intermittent, and > some days it never happens. Rebooting everything works for a while, > but when I least expect it, the lockups will start again. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] OT - Intro to FT8 powerpoint presentation
Larry and all, Good information. For those using Elecraft transceivers, also refer to the article on my website www.w3fpr.com about setting the audio level. The Elecraft transceivers are unique in this regard. On my website, scroll to the bottom of the left column and click the link to the article. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 7:06 AM, Larry (K8UT) wrote: Several weeks ago there was a series of reflector posts by hams looking for materials on FT8 to use in PPT presentations. I had offered to post my slides after delivering to the SEMDXA club meeting on 11/10. The 27 MB ZIP file contains the .pptx file, two videos (stand-along and log-integrated operation) and a README file. www.semdxa.org >File Gallery >Presentations, "Intro to FT8 presentation by K8UT" or http://www.semdxa.org/download/presentations/IntroToFT8_presentation_byK8UT.zip Anyone is welcome to cut/copy/plagiarize as they require. Corrections and comments would be appreciated - direct to my email address. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Not necessarily true. If, for example, equipment in the shack is not properly bonded together, an antenna close to the shack will put a lot of RF in the shack, which will induce RF onto cables connected to equipment, and is likely to couple into equipment. If an antenna is working as an antenna and it's close to the shack, it WILL put RF in the shack -- that's what it is intended to do! Proper bonding is described in this set of slides http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf and in N0AX's new ARRL book on Power, Grounding, and Bonding 73, Jim K9YC On 11/13/2017 3:10 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: With effective common mode chokes on the antenna and feedline, you should not have to use ferrites on every cable in the shack - a much more sane answer IMHO. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Richard and all, The proper place to cure "RF in the shack" problems is in your antenna system. A good common mode choke (many call it a balun) in the antenna feedline and running the feedline at right angles to the radiator (assuming a dipole) to keep the feedline from picking up radiation from the radiator. If that physical configuration cannot be avoided, then an additional common mode choke at the shack entry point can help. In the case of off-center fed antennas and end-fed antennas, often the common mode current on the feedline can be difficult to cure. Use of one or more of the effective "baluns" described by Jim Brown K9YC at http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf will help. With effective common mode chokes on the antenna and feedline, you should not have to use ferrites on every cable in the shack - a much more sane answer IMHO. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 5:46 PM, Richard Lamont wrote: On 13/11/17 19:12, Gary Smith wrote: For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find the K3s is locked as transmit but there is no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. Anyone experience this and figure out how to prevent it? I've seen this occasionally too. I've had a number of odd malfunctions of USB-connected devices in the presence of RF. I now have fitted ferrite rings, with as many turns of the cable as would fit, at the computer end of the all the USB cables going into the PC. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
On 13/11/17 20:18, Jim Brown wrote: > On 11/13/2017 11:12 AM, Gary Smith wrote: >> For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find >> the K3s is locked as transmit but there is >> no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. > > I've been using WSJT-X since it was first introduced several years ago, > and I've never had this problem. I've always used VOX to put the rig in > TX mode, as I do with SSB and all digital modes. I've often run with a > power amp that uses a vacuum relay for T/R switching, and there's > sufficient delay within the K3 and K3s for the amp's T/R relay to switch. You may be putting the performance of your station at a disadvantage with that approach, compared to using WSJT-X with CAT to keep TX audio in the range 1500-2000 Hz. The roofing filter may have a fair amount of group delay inequality at the edges of the passband, which can lead to inter-symbol interference on digital modes. I don't know how serious, if at all, this is in practice, but I know one very clever engineer who regards it as enough of a problem to have had a custom roofing filter manufactured for his K3 to reduce it. He mainly works EME with JT65. 73, Richard G4DYA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
On 13/11/17 19:12, Gary Smith wrote: > For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find > the K3s is locked as transmit but there is > no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. > > Anyone experience this and figure out how > to prevent it? I've seen this occasionally too. I've had a number of odd malfunctions of USB-connected devices in the presence of RF. I now have fitted ferrite rings, with as many turns of the cable as would fit, at the computer end of the all the USB cables going into the PC. 73, Richard G4DYA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
Hmm... alright then. Jim sent me an email with the same conclusion. I need to recheck all my cabling. I'm a bit surprised that's the conclusion as simply bypassing or turning off the amp but leaving it connected made the problem go away. I have some good cable on there now but can replace each one of them to try it out. I'll report back later on. I really hope it is just this. Kev On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Michael Walker wrote: > Hi Kev > > Don is 100% right. > > I would change all the cables and then test with the amp alone and the > tuner alone to narrow it down. > > I spent 3 days debugging an Acom A1000 issue only to finally out I had a > bad jumper cable. > > Mike va3mw > > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Don Wilhelm > wrote: > >> Kev, >> >> That behavior can be caused by a coax jumper, either loose or faulty in >> some way. Make sure the PL-259s are tight and if you can substitute the >> jumpers with known good ones - particularly the one between the KPA500 and >> the KAT500 and the one between your transceiver and the KPA500. >> There are as many problems caused by cables as are caused by equipment. >> Some cable problems have no apparent problem at lower power, but rear >> their ugly head at higher power. >> You could also have a higher power problem with your antenna. Switch to >> an alternate antenna or dummy load if possible (tune the KAT500 into the >> dummy load) as a test. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> >> On 11/13/2017 4:41 PM, Kevin der Kinderen wrote: >> >>> Waiting on an answer from Elecraft but thought I'd also check with the >>> group here. >>> >>> I have a Flex 6500 with KAT500/KPA500 combo. It's been working great >>> until >>> very recently. Within the past couple of days I was intermittently >>> reading >>> high SWR when the amp is in operate. In standby or off everything looks >>> good. As of last night it's not so intermittent. >>> >>> In receive when I switch from standby to operate I'm only receiving the >>> strongest of signals. Everything else disappears almost like the antenna >>> was disconnected. >>> >>> When switching between standby and operate I hear a relay clicking. I'm >>> not >>> sure but it doesn't seem to be as loud a click as I normally hear but I >>> can't be sure. >>> >>> With the amp powered down and the Flex set to 100 watts out everything >>> seems to be working fine. I'm afraid my amp is going to take a trip. Any >>> ideas for things to check? >>> >>> 73, >>> Kev K4VD >>> __ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com >>> >>> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to va...@portcredit.net >> > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
Hi Kev Don is 100% right. I would change all the cables and then test with the amp alone and the tuner alone to narrow it down. I spent 3 days debugging an Acom A1000 issue only to finally out I had a bad jumper cable. Mike va3mw On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Kev, > > That behavior can be caused by a coax jumper, either loose or faulty in > some way. Make sure the PL-259s are tight and if you can substitute the > jumpers with known good ones - particularly the one between the KPA500 and > the KAT500 and the one between your transceiver and the KPA500. > There are as many problems caused by cables as are caused by equipment. > Some cable problems have no apparent problem at lower power, but rear > their ugly head at higher power. > You could also have a higher power problem with your antenna. Switch to > an alternate antenna or dummy load if possible (tune the KAT500 into the > dummy load) as a test. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > > On 11/13/2017 4:41 PM, Kevin der Kinderen wrote: > >> Waiting on an answer from Elecraft but thought I'd also check with the >> group here. >> >> I have a Flex 6500 with KAT500/KPA500 combo. It's been working great until >> very recently. Within the past couple of days I was intermittently reading >> high SWR when the amp is in operate. In standby or off everything looks >> good. As of last night it's not so intermittent. >> >> In receive when I switch from standby to operate I'm only receiving the >> strongest of signals. Everything else disappears almost like the antenna >> was disconnected. >> >> When switching between standby and operate I hear a relay clicking. I'm >> not >> sure but it doesn't seem to be as loud a click as I normally hear but I >> can't be sure. >> >> With the amp powered down and the Flex set to 100 watts out everything >> seems to be working fine. I'm afraid my amp is going to take a trip. Any >> ideas for things to check? >> >> 73, >> Kev K4VD >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com >> >> __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to va...@portcredit.net > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
Kev, That behavior can be caused by a coax jumper, either loose or faulty in some way. Make sure the PL-259s are tight and if you can substitute the jumpers with known good ones - particularly the one between the KPA500 and the KAT500 and the one between your transceiver and the KPA500. There are as many problems caused by cables as are caused by equipment. Some cable problems have no apparent problem at lower power, but rear their ugly head at higher power. You could also have a higher power problem with your antenna. Switch to an alternate antenna or dummy load if possible (tune the KAT500 into the dummy load) as a test. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 4:41 PM, Kevin der Kinderen wrote: Waiting on an answer from Elecraft but thought I'd also check with the group here. I have a Flex 6500 with KAT500/KPA500 combo. It's been working great until very recently. Within the past couple of days I was intermittently reading high SWR when the amp is in operate. In standby or off everything looks good. As of last night it's not so intermittent. In receive when I switch from standby to operate I'm only receiving the strongest of signals. Everything else disappears almost like the antenna was disconnected. When switching between standby and operate I hear a relay clicking. I'm not sure but it doesn't seem to be as loud a click as I normally hear but I can't be sure. With the amp powered down and the Flex set to 100 watts out everything seems to be working fine. I'm afraid my amp is going to take a trip. Any ideas for things to check? 73, Kev K4VD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to donw...@embarqmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] KPA500 Problem
Waiting on an answer from Elecraft but thought I'd also check with the group here. I have a Flex 6500 with KAT500/KPA500 combo. It's been working great until very recently. Within the past couple of days I was intermittently reading high SWR when the amp is in operate. In standby or off everything looks good. As of last night it's not so intermittent. In receive when I switch from standby to operate I'm only receiving the strongest of signals. Everything else disappears almost like the antenna was disconnected. When switching between standby and operate I hear a relay clicking. I'm not sure but it doesn't seem to be as loud a click as I normally hear but I can't be sure. With the amp powered down and the Flex set to 100 watts out everything seems to be working fine. I'm afraid my amp is going to take a trip. Any ideas for things to check? 73, Kev K4VD __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
> Play it safe, just use software Ptt for everything. BS! Many rigs have race conditions in their processors. *NEVER* use software PTT and stick to hardware (RTS) switching only - particularly if you have the need for external sequencers and audio switching. If you have a problem with hanging PTT with hardware switching, fix the common mode RFI issues in your shack! If you don't fix them now, they will bite you later (and somewhere you don't expect). 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 11/13/2017 3:34 PM, tomb18 wrote: Using hardware PTT using Dtr or RTS is technically fine but many software packages will default to having them on with the consequence that the transmitter is in transmit mode if PTT is set to dtr. It becomes more and more complicated with more software hooked up. I have yet to see any software that cannot be used with software cat based PTT. It gets rid of most issues. As I said it is fine, but it takes more effort to make sure everything is set correctly. It also is possible that you will have to go into the driver advanced options for the serial port and turn off interrogation at start and other possible values. Play it safe, just use software Ptt for everything. 73 Tom Va2fsq.com Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Jim Brown Date: 2017-11-13 3:18 PM (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx On 11/13/2017 11:12 AM, Gary Smith wrote: For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find the K3s is locked as transmit but there is no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. I've been using WSJT-X since it was first introduced several years ago, and I've never had this problem. I've always used VOX to put the rig in TX mode, as I do with SSB and all digital modes. I've often run with a power amp that uses a vacuum relay for T/R switching, and there's sufficient delay within the K3 and K3s for the amp's T/R relay to switch. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to li...@subich.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
The menu option in the K3 is PTT KEY. If you set this to OFF-OFF then you won't have any issues with transmit coming on when you don't want it. Just make sure you use CAT based PTT in your software and you are good to go. 73 -Original Message- From: tomb18 Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:34 PM To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx Using hardware PTT using Dtr or RTS is technically fine but many software packages will default to having them on with the consequence that the transmitter is in transmit mode if PTT is set to dtr. It becomes more and more complicated with more software hooked up. I have yet to see any software that cannot be used with software cat based PTT. It gets rid of most issues. As I said it is fine, but it takes more effort to make sure everything is set correctly. It also is possible that you will have to go into the driver advanced options for the serial port and turn off interrogation at start and other possible values. Play it safe, just use software Ptt for everything. 73 Tom Va2fsq.com Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Jim Brown Date: 2017-11-13 3:18 PM (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx On 11/13/2017 11:12 AM, Gary Smith wrote: For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find the K3s is locked as transmit but there is no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. I've been using WSJT-X since it was first introduced several years ago, and I've never had this problem. I've always used VOX to put the rig in TX mode, as I do with SSB and all digital modes. I've often run with a power amp that uses a vacuum relay for T/R switching, and there's sufficient delay within the K3 and K3s for the amp's T/R relay to switch. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Using hardware PTT using Dtr or RTS is technically fine but many software packages will default to having them on with the consequence that the transmitter is in transmit mode if PTT is set to dtr. It becomes more and more complicated with more software hooked up. I have yet to see any software that cannot be used with software cat based PTT. It gets rid of most issues. As I said it is fine, but it takes more effort to make sure everything is set correctly. It also is possible that you will have to go into the driver advanced options for the serial port and turn off interrogation at start and other possible values. Play it safe, just use software Ptt for everything. 73 Tom Va2fsq.com Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Jim Brown Date: 2017-11-13 3:18 PM (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx On 11/13/2017 11:12 AM, Gary Smith wrote: > For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find > the K3s is locked as transmit but there is > no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. I've been using WSJT-X since it was first introduced several years ago, and I've never had this problem. I've always used VOX to put the rig in TX mode, as I do with SSB and all digital modes. I've often run with a power amp that uses a vacuum relay for T/R switching, and there's sufficient delay within the K3 and K3s for the amp's T/R relay to switch. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Hi, In wsjt turn off Dtr or RTS PTT and set Cat commands for this. In the K3 turn the menu entry Keying to Off Off. Make sure all your other software uses software Ptt and you arr are all set.. 73 Tom Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. Original message From: Gary Smith Date: 2017-11-13 2:12 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find the K3s is locked as transmit but there is no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. Looking at the P3 I see a jitter on the upper half of the screen as if there was a tiny output but no Rf is seen on any of the three SWR meters in line (K3s, AP3 & LP-100A). I couldn't get WSJT to receive, looked at the settings, all were correct and as is sometimes needed with WSJT-X, I rebooted to get it to work properly but it still did not lock onto the K3s frequency. Rebooted again and then I realized the K3s was in that TX condition with both the red & yellow LEDs lit and that jitter on the P3 upper screen. This happens every so often and what I have to do is touch any of the buttons on the K3s and it disengages this situation. I did that to deal with the issue I mentioned above. I could restart the K3s but then I'd have to restart LP-Bridge and wait, so I use the quick fix. Anyone experience this and figure out how to prevent it? Thanks! 73, Gary KA1J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tom...@videotron.ca __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
This happens to me once in a while however if I let it go through the cycle it shuts off TX and will be normal again next cycle with RF out. Strange. 73! Tom - KB2SMS KX2 #1927 On 11/13/2017 03:07 PM, Bert Garcia N8NN wrote: This problem is not unique to the K3. My Yaesu FT-1000mp does the same thing -- locks up in transmit mode with no RF output and I have to turn it off to regain control. The lock up is intermittent, and some days it never happens. Rebooting everything works for a while, but when I least expect it, the lockups will start again. Bert N8NN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:13 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find the K3s is locked as transmit but there is no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. Looking at the P3 I see a jitter on the upper half of the screen as if there was a tiny output but no Rf is seen on any of the three SWR meters in line (K3s, AP3 & LP-100A). I couldn't get WSJT to receive, looked at the settings, all were correct and as is sometimes needed with WSJT-X, I rebooted to get it to work properly but it still did not lock onto the K3s frequency. Rebooted again and then I realized the K3s was in that TX condition with both the red & yellow LEDs lit and that jitter on the P3 upper screen. This happens every so often and what I have to do is touch any of the buttons on the K3s and it disengages this situation. I did that to deal with the issue I mentioned above. I could restart the K3s but then I'd have to restart LP-Bridge and wait, so I use the quick fix. Anyone experience this and figure out how to prevent it? Thanks! 73, Gary KA1J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@earthlink.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to tomm...@hvc.rr.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
On 11/13/2017 11:12 AM, Gary Smith wrote: For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find the K3s is locked as transmit but there is no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. I've been using WSJT-X since it was first introduced several years ago, and I've never had this problem. I've always used VOX to put the rig in TX mode, as I do with SSB and all digital modes. I've often run with a power amp that uses a vacuum relay for T/R switching, and there's sufficient delay within the K3 and K3s for the amp's T/R relay to switch. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
Bert and Gary, Have you looked for a computer problem? Such as having both PTT via command and via an RS-232 signal line? Do you have both VOX on and another means of keying the transceiver? 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 3:07 PM, Bert Garcia N8NN wrote: This problem is not unique to the K3. My Yaesu FT-1000mp does the same thing -- locks up in transmit mode with no RF output and I have to turn it off to regain control. The lock up is intermittent, and some days it never happens. Rebooting everything works for a while, but when I least expect it, the lockups will start again. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
This problem is not unique to the K3. My Yaesu FT-1000mp does the same thing -- locks up in transmit mode with no RF output and I have to turn it off to regain control. The lock up is intermittent, and some days it never happens. Rebooting everything works for a while, but when I least expect it, the lockups will start again. Bert N8NN -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Gary Smith Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 2:13 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find the K3s is locked as transmit but there is no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. Looking at the P3 I see a jitter on the upper half of the screen as if there was a tiny output but no Rf is seen on any of the three SWR meters in line (K3s, AP3 & LP-100A). I couldn't get WSJT to receive, looked at the settings, all were correct and as is sometimes needed with WSJT-X, I rebooted to get it to work properly but it still did not lock onto the K3s frequency. Rebooted again and then I realized the K3s was in that TX condition with both the red & yellow LEDs lit and that jitter on the P3 upper screen. This happens every so often and what I have to do is touch any of the buttons on the K3s and it disengages this situation. I did that to deal with the issue I mentioned above. I could restart the K3s but then I'd have to restart LP-Bridge and wait, so I use the quick fix. Anyone experience this and figure out how to prevent it? Thanks! 73, Gary KA1J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to n...@earthlink.net __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] kxpd3 question
Knowledge of Morse code was an international requirement, but there was no speed requirement. Anyone who remembers the "incentive licensing" debates of the mid-60s knows the Morse requirement in the U.S. was clearly intended to be restrictive by many hams if not most. Incentive licensing intentionally took away privileges with a code speed requirement that persisted until the fairly recent no-code licensing. I've always been a cw op. I lived in Japan when I was 12 and heard hams talking on my SW-54. I had no interest in that at all until I learned about hams using Morse code. I've been 90%+ CW since. Definitely not by choice, but I took General, Advanced and Extra before FCC examiners in Boston and Long Beach. Eric KE6US On 11/13/2017 10:04 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: > The purpose of requiring CW was perhaps not to be restrictive - but it > had exactly that effect. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] WSJT-X K3/K3s hanging as Tx
For those using WSJT-X, sometimes I find the K3s is locked as transmit but there is no RF being sent and no Rx from the K3. Looking at the P3 I see a jitter on the upper half of the screen as if there was a tiny output but no Rf is seen on any of the three SWR meters in line (K3s, AP3 & LP-100A). I couldn't get WSJT to receive, looked at the settings, all were correct and as is sometimes needed with WSJT-X, I rebooted to get it to work properly but it still did not lock onto the K3s frequency. Rebooted again and then I realized the K3s was in that TX condition with both the red & yellow LEDs lit and that jitter on the P3 upper screen. This happens every so often and what I have to do is touch any of the buttons on the K3s and it disengages this situation. I did that to deal with the issue I mentioned above. I could restart the K3s but then I'd have to restart LP-Bridge and wait, so I use the quick fix. Anyone experience this and figure out how to prevent it? Thanks! 73, Gary KA1J __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] kxpd3 question
I'm no sure I'd say it was to be "restrictive" but I will say there is a benefit to making sure someone wants a license vs. mailing in boxtops from their favorite cereal. I'm probably one of the young guys here, at 60. I made it to 5wpm and got my Novice, but never got past 10wpm. Took the general written to get my Technician, and when the 13wpm requirement was dropped was "grandfathered" to General. I currently hold an Extra Class license. Going back to my Tech. days, I never fell in love with code, spent a bit of time on 2m FM, but very early got into RTTY. Ran autostart on the SDTS repeater on 220 with a model 15 and later a 28KSR. Was a TAPR beta tester, and probably still have my BETA TNC. I like PSK-31. So, when the CW vs. Phone arguments crop up, my response is pretty much always going to be NEITHER! 73 -- Lynn On 11/13/2017 10:04 AM, Edward R Cole wrote: The purpose of requiring CW was perhaps not to be restrictive - but it had exactly that effect. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] CW
I was a shipboard comms officer for several days, part of mornings actually -- well, not officially and definitely not paid the big $$$. When I was 14 and my copy speed about 20 wpm back then, I spent two weeks on my dad's ship (he was Captain of a cargo ship). I hung out in the radio room quite a bit and the radio officer showed me how to fill out the weather report each morning as it was sent out over the Pacific by the marine weather reporting services (whereever they were, I can't remember). So, I would sit in the radio operators chair, dial up the frequency on the receiver, and copy the CW weather broadcast. I made a few mistakes at the beginning until I got use to the format and content. After that, each morning I had the job of copying and writing up the weather report for our area (pacific northwest coastal areas). I also learned a lot about navigating, taking sitings, plotting the charts, and I even spent an hour at the helm trying to sail a straight wake -- definitely a learned skill I did not totally learn. 73, phil, K7PEH > On Nov 13, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Eddy Avila wrote: > > Guys, I'm old enuf when CW testing was required by the FCC for any license > grade. Commercial CW Ops could make really good $$$ as a shipboard > communications officer, I mean really good bucks! Much better than slinging > hamburgers at MacDonalds...wait, I'm not sure the Big Mac was available > back then. > > > Anyway, enjoy whatever mode floats your boat.I'm into FT8 lately, but > I'll get bored with it soon and go back to dits and dahsif I can find > anyone on the air in that mode. > > > Just get on the air, for heavens sake!!! > > > Cheers all, and old ya 73 > > > Ed ~ k6sdw > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to phys...@mac.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] kxpd3 question
The purpose of requiring CW was perhaps not to be restrictive - but it had exactly that effect. I was twelve when I discovered "hams" talking on 75m AM. It was not the morse code that attracted me to ham radio - it was talking. But I quickly found out that the gate to getting into ham radio required learning morse code. I got 5wpm pretty easy and became a Novice at age 14. A year later I took the General Class written exam and became a Technician. Several attempts to pass 13wpm which involved a 68 mile drive to FCC in Detroit resulted in failure. I started college as an EE student, way too busy for working on code, graduated to start my career which included nine years working for JPL-NASA where I became a senior engineer at age 32. I got to help several missions to the planets, but I was "not qualified" to be a "real ham" because of code. Finally in 1982 (age 38) I spent the effort to pass the 13wpm test (which then only required answering 7 out of ten questions vs 1 minute perfect copy of five character random groups). I took my Advanced test and passed (never had a General). In 2000 FCC lowered speed requirement for Extra to 13wpm and I passed with two wrong answers. BTW I took and passed the 2nd Class Radiotelephone in 1971 (which is way harder than extra). 24 years I had to wait to become a "real ham". Well the good result was that I got interested in 2m (where I could talk) and that lead to microwaves and eme. EME required CW when I started in 1998 but fortunately digital arrived (JT44) in early 2000's which I have been using on 2m and a little on 1296. I will eventually get up to 15wpm because I want to work eme stations that only do CW. But as a boy, I just wanted to talk on ham radio. Eliminating CW as a requirement does make it easier today. Longevity of ham radio does not depend on it. My local club has only 2-3 members that are not retired. No youngsters under 35. I am currently learning about using a Raspberry Pi in a autotracking system for my eme antennas. Plans to install dual-yagis for 6m-eme and a 100w 3400-MHz system on my 16-foot dish. Guess some of the engineer remains, as well. 73, Ed - KL7UW _._ From: Jim Brown To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] kxpd3 question Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On 11/11/2017 9:45 AM, dyarnes wrote: > I don?t think it is accurate to suggest that CW was used to keep people out of the hobby. For at least the last 20-30 years of the 20th century, CW was used as a means of keeping the hobby "pure," a "rite of passage" that all current licensees had had to take, and that, anyone else wanting to enter their hallowed ground must also take. You had to be not paying attention not to be aware of this. It was easy to not be paying attention -- many of us, including me, were on and off the air for decades at a time as we lived our lives with jobs, families, even other interests. This was not unique to the US -- the CW requirement was from international governmental bodies. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: dubus...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] CW
Guys, I'm old enuf when CW testing was required by the FCC for any license grade. Commercial CW Ops could make really good $$$ as a shipboard communications officer, I mean really good bucks! Much better than slinging hamburgers at MacDonalds...wait, I'm not sure the Big Mac was available back then. Anyway, enjoy whatever mode floats your boat.I'm into FT8 lately, but I'll get bored with it soon and go back to dits and dahsif I can find anyone on the air in that mode. Just get on the air, for heavens sake!!! Cheers all, and old ya 73 Ed ~ k6sdw __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] On CW
Wayne, That should be submitted to QST, QQ, CQ, etc. magazines. It will surely get printed. Dave, KD9VT On 11/13/2017 7:17:59 AM, Graziano Roccon wrote: Wow ! Wayne, thanks for this message. It's one of the best sentiment and love declaration to CW that i have read. I am proud to be an Elecrafter and own more of your project. I am still waiting you in Europe to finally meet you. If you want to came in Italy, to Milan or around, you will be my guest, just let me know. Best 73's --... ...-- Graziano IW2NOY > Il 31 ottobre 2017 alle 3.37 Wayne Burdick ha scritto: > > > I find that CW has many practical and engaging aspects that I just don’t get > with computer-mediated modes like FT8. You’d think I’d be burned out on CW by > now, over 45 years since I was first licensed, but no, I’m still doin’ it :) > > Yes, FT8 (etc.) is a no-brainer when, despite poor conditions, your goal is > to log as many contacts as possible with as many states or countries as > possible. It’s so streamlined and efficient that the whole process is readily > automated. (If you haven’t read enough opinions on that, see "The mother of > all FT8 threads” on QRZ.com, for example.) > > But back to CW. Here’s why it works for me. YMMV. > > CW feels personal and visceral, like driving a sports car rather than taking > a cab. As with a sports car, there are risks. You can get clobbered by larger > vehicles (QRM). Witness road range (“UP 2!”). Fall into a pothole (QSB). Be > forced to drive through rain or snow (QRN). > > With CW, like other forms of human conversation, you can affect your own > style. Make mistakes. Joke about it. > > CW is a skill that bonds operators together across generations and nations. A > language, more like pidgin than anything else, with abbreviations and > historical constructs and imperialist oddities. A curious club anyone can > join. (At age 60 and able to copy 50 WPM on a good day, I may qualify as a > Nerd Mason of some modest order, worthless in any other domain but of value > in a contest.) > > With very simple equipment that anyone can build, such as a high-power > single-transistor oscillator, you can transmit a CW signal. I had very little > experience with electronics when I was 14 and built an oscillator that put > out maybe 100 mW. Just twisted the leads of all those parts together and > keyed the collector supply--a 9-volt battery. With this simple circuit on my > desk, coupled to one guy wire of our TV antenna mast, I worked a station 150 > miles away and was instantly hooked on building things. And on QRP. I’m sure > the signal was key-clicky and had lots of harmonics. I’ve spent a lifetime > making such things work better, but this is where it started. > > Going even further down the techno food chain, you can “send” CW by > whistling, flashing a lamp, tapping on someone’s leg under a table in civics > class, or pounding a wrench on the inverted hull of an upside-down U.S. war > vessel, as happened at Pearl Harbor. Last Saturday at an engineering club my > son belongs to, a 9-year-old demonstrated an Arduino Uno flashing HELLO WORLD > in Morse on an LED. The other kids were impressed, including my son, who > promptly wrote a version that sends three independent Morse streams on three > LEDs. A mini-pileup. His first program. > > Finally, to do CW you don’t always need a computer, keyboard, mouse, monitor, > or software. Such things are invaluable in our daily lives, but for me, > shutting down everything but the radio is the high point of my day. The small > display glows like a mystic portal into my personal oyster, the RF spectrum. > Unless I crank up the power, there’s no fan noise. Tuning the knob slowly > from the bottom end of the band segment to the top is a bit like fishing my > favorite stream, Taylor Creek, which connects Fallen Leaf Lake to Lake Tahoe. > Drag the line across the green, sunlit pool. See what hits. Big trout? DX. > Small trout? Hey, it’s still a fish, and a QSO across town is still a QSO. > Admire it, then throw it back in. > > (BTW: You now know why the Elecraft K3, K3S, KX2, and KX3 all have built-in > RTTY and PSK data modes that allow transmit via the keyer paddle and receive > on the rig’s display. We decided to make these data modes > conversational...like CW.) > > Back to 40 meters > > 73, > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to grazi...@roccon.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list
Re: [Elecraft] On CW
Wow ! Wayne, thanks for this message. It's one of the best sentiment and love declaration to CW that i have read. I am proud to be an Elecrafter and own more of your project. I am still waiting you in Europe to finally meet you. If you want to came in Italy, to Milan or around, you will be my guest, just let me know. Best 73's --... ...-- Graziano IW2NOY > Il 31 ottobre 2017 alle 3.37 Wayne Burdick ha scritto: > > > I find that CW has many practical and engaging aspects that I just don’t get > with computer-mediated modes like FT8. You’d think I’d be burned out on CW by > now, over 45 years since I was first licensed, but no, I’m still doin’ it :) > > Yes, FT8 (etc.) is a no-brainer when, despite poor conditions, your goal is > to log as many contacts as possible with as many states or countries as > possible. It’s so streamlined and efficient that the whole process is readily > automated. (If you haven’t read enough opinions on that, see "The mother of > all FT8 threads” on QRZ.com, for example.) > > But back to CW. Here’s why it works for me. YMMV. > > CW feels personal and visceral, like driving a sports car rather than taking > a cab. As with a sports car, there are risks. You can get clobbered by larger > vehicles (QRM). Witness road range (“UP 2!”). Fall into a pothole (QSB). Be > forced to drive through rain or snow (QRN). > > With CW, like other forms of human conversation, you can affect your own > style. Make mistakes. Joke about it. > > CW is a skill that bonds operators together across generations and nations. A > language, more like pidgin than anything else, with abbreviations and > historical constructs and imperialist oddities. A curious club anyone can > join. (At age 60 and able to copy 50 WPM on a good day, I may qualify as a > Nerd Mason of some modest order, worthless in any other domain but of value > in a contest.) > > With very simple equipment that anyone can build, such as a high-power > single-transistor oscillator, you can transmit a CW signal. I had very little > experience with electronics when I was 14 and built an oscillator that put > out maybe 100 mW. Just twisted the leads of all those parts together and > keyed the collector supply--a 9-volt battery. With this simple circuit on my > desk, coupled to one guy wire of our TV antenna mast, I worked a station 150 > miles away and was instantly hooked on building things. And on QRP. I’m sure > the signal was key-clicky and had lots of harmonics. I’ve spent a lifetime > making such things work better, but this is where it started. > > Going even further down the techno food chain, you can “send” CW by > whistling, flashing a lamp, tapping on someone’s leg under a table in civics > class, or pounding a wrench on the inverted hull of an upside-down U.S. war > vessel, as happened at Pearl Harbor. Last Saturday at an engineering club my > son belongs to, a 9-year-old demonstrated an Arduino Uno flashing HELLO WORLD > in Morse on an LED. The other kids were impressed, including my son, who > promptly wrote a version that sends three independent Morse streams on three > LEDs. A mini-pileup. His first program. > > Finally, to do CW you don’t always need a computer, keyboard, mouse, monitor, > or software. Such things are invaluable in our daily lives, but for me, > shutting down everything but the radio is the high point of my day. The small > display glows like a mystic portal into my personal oyster, the RF spectrum. > Unless I crank up the power, there’s no fan noise. Tuning the knob slowly > from the bottom end of the band segment to the top is a bit like fishing my > favorite stream, Taylor Creek, which connects Fallen Leaf Lake to Lake Tahoe. > Drag the line across the green, sunlit pool. See what hits. Big trout? DX. > Small trout? Hey, it’s still a fish, and a QSO across town is still a QSO. > Admire it, then throw it back in. > > (BTW: You now know why the Elecraft K3, K3S, KX2, and KX3 all have built-in > RTTY and PSK data modes that allow transmit via the keyer paddle and receive > on the rig’s display. We decided to make these data modes > conversational...like CW.) > > Back to 40 meters > > 73, > > Wayne > N6KR > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to grazi...@roccon.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-a
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] Looking for KAT1 built/unbuilt for my son
Don, thanks. Even although I ordered it at the time when this item has been available on the web they said "gone". Then after it disappeared from the web several weak ago. So no way thru Elecraft. Many thanks, 73 - Petr, OK1RP On Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 01:35 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Petr. > > Contact sa...@elecraft.com to see if they have any left. Even though > the K1 has been discontinued, they have said the options will remain > available until stock is depleted. > The Elecraft T1 is an alternative. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 11/13/2017 2:57 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > looks like the KAT1 kit is really not sleeping dusty on shelf somewhere > > worldwide... :( -- 73 - Petr, OK1RP B: goo.gl/Fd2JhJ G+: goo.gl/w3u2s9 G+: goo.gl/gP99xq __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] [K1] Looking for KAT1 built/unbuilt for my son
Petr. Contact sa...@elecraft.com to see if they have any left. Even though the K1 has been discontinued, they have said the options will remain available until stock is depleted. The Elecraft T1 is an alternative. 73, Don W3FPR On 11/13/2017 2:57 AM, Petr, OK1RP/M0SIS wrote: Hi all, looks like the KAT1 kit is really not sleeping dusty on shelf somewhere worldwide... :( __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] OT - Intro to FT8 powerpoint presentation
Several weeks ago there was a series of reflector posts by hams looking for materials on FT8 to use in PPT presentations. I had offered to post my slides after delivering to the SEMDXA club meeting on 11/10. The 27 MB ZIP file contains the .pptx file, two videos (stand-along and log-integrated operation) and a README file. www.semdxa.org >File Gallery >Presentations, "Intro to FT8 presentation by K8UT" or http://www.semdxa.org/download/presentations/IntroToFT8_presentation_byK8UT.zip Anyone is welcome to cut/copy/plagiarize as they require. Corrections and comments would be appreciated - direct to my email address. -larry (K8UT) __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] Another wanted KXV3/3A oh and a KSYN3
Hi, VE2EBK seems to have found a KXV3 easily enough, wonder if there is another one out there? I could certainly use it and can do PayPal easily with postage to a US ham address (QRZ.com verified). Let me know what you have and would need for it. Also want a KSYN3. Now surely there must be a bunch of these somewhere :) I want to put a second receiver in my K3 but honestly cannot justify the extra for the KSYN3AUPG at the this time, I know they're good but... Again, let me know what you have and lets see if we can work a deal. Many thanks, Martin, HS0ZED __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com