[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

[kevinr]

Good Evening,

   The variety of shades of green around the mountain is astounding 
this week.  All the trees have their new growth of needles, many species 
of berry bushes are blooming or forming berries, the ferns are almost 
done unrolling, and the leaves of the undergrowth have all formed.  The 
hummingbird feeder needs to be refilled every three days.  They seem to 
be in constant motion; feeding their young and defending territories.  
Just one species is present again this year.  The chilly weather has 
kept the Anna's hummingbird away the last two years.  It would be nice 
to have some warm weather again, I had to start a fire a few days back 
to drive the chill out of the house.


   The sun is spotless and mostly quiescent.  While it's not providing 
a lot of new ions it is not making much noise either. With less noise I 
can hear better but even my very low noise floor is not enough to make 
up for the lack of signals bouncing once or twice on the ionosphere.  By 
this time next year I hope to see an improvement.  Patience can get boring.


Please join us tomorrow on:

14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
  7045 kHz at z Monday (5 PM PDT Sunday)

73,
Kevin. KD5ONS

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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

Yes its working well thank you for the advice!


> On Jun 30, 2018, at 9:31 PM, Jack Brindle  wrote:
> 
> Yup, you are right. The manual clearly states that PB CTRL only affects CW 
> and Data modes, and shifts the increment between 0.05 and .01 KHz.
> It appears to be fixed at .1 KHz for SSB for both low and hi cut. Those 
> increments work pretty well as is.
> 
> 73,
> Jack, W6FB
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Michael Gillen  wrote:
>> 
>> Hmmm when I try that I get Shif=.05 however and when I turn VFO-A it says 
>> N/A and it still moves in .10 increments?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 7:55 PM, Jack Brindle  wrote:
>>> 
>>> PB CTRL should do what you want. See page 62 of the K3S manual.
>>> 
>>> Jack, W6FB
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
  wrote:
 
 Good info on the filters I had never tried the LO/HI CUT and I like it. 
 One question: On my K3S I cannot set the LO CUT to .35KHz it only steps in 
 .10 increments not 0.05 increments is there some CONFIG item I need to 
 change? I looked through the CONFIG menus and Fred Cady’s book however I 
 did not see anything about setting that step.
 
 73,
 Michael
 KK6RWK
 
 
> On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations. The K3 is a really nice radio with extraordinary factory 
> support.
> 
> For SSB, I set low cut to .35 KHz and adjust the upper cut between 1.9 
> KHz and 2.8 KHz, depending on conditions. Higher makes for easier copy, 
> but lower will eliminate more noise, and help with nearby stations. 
> Remember, the crystal filters are to protect the AtoD converter in the 
> receiver. The DSP has many useful settings between those of the installed 
> filters.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 6/30/18 at 5:07 PM, 1lasports...@cox.net (Bill) wrote:
> 
>> I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
>> Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
>> It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
>> I have read the manual and it does not really help me.
>> Thanks
>> Bill
>> W3WGG
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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[Jack Brindle]

Yup, you are right. The manual clearly states that PB CTRL only affects CW and 
Data modes, and shifts the increment between 0.05 and .01 KHz.
It appears to be fixed at .1 KHz for SSB for both low and hi cut. Those 
increments work pretty well as is.

73,
Jack, W6FB

> On Jun 30, 2018, at 8:44 PM, Michael Gillen  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm when I try that I get Shif=.05 however and when I turn VFO-A it says N/A 
> and it still moves in .10 increments?
> 
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 7:55 PM, Jack Brindle  wrote:
>> 
>> PB CTRL should do what you want. See page 62 of the K3S manual.
>> 
>> Jack, W6FB
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good info on the filters I had never tried the LO/HI CUT and I like it. One 
>>> question: On my K3S I cannot set the LO CUT to .35KHz it only steps in .10 
>>> increments not 0.05 increments is there some CONFIG item I need to change? 
>>> I looked through the CONFIG menus and Fred Cady’s book however I did not 
>>> see anything about setting that step.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Michael
>>> KK6RWK
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
 
 Congratulations. The K3 is a really nice radio with extraordinary factory 
 support.
 
 For SSB, I set low cut to .35 KHz and adjust the upper cut between 1.9 KHz 
 and 2.8 KHz, depending on conditions. Higher makes for easier copy, but 
 lower will eliminate more noise, and help with nearby stations. Remember, 
 the crystal filters are to protect the AtoD converter in the receiver. The 
 DSP has many useful settings between those of the installed filters.
 
 73 Bill AE6JV
 
 On 6/30/18 at 5:07 PM, 1lasports...@cox.net (Bill) wrote:
 
> I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
> Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
> It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
> I have read the manual and it does not really help me.
> Thanks
> Bill
> W3WGG
 
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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[Bill Frantz]

Mine moves in .10 increments, but it seems to like the numbers 
that end in 5. e.g. .350. I wouldn't worry too much about it. 
set the low end to .3 or to .4, depending on conditions and the 
voice you're listening to and call it good. The whole purpose of 
the knobs is to let you adjust the bandwidth to match conditions.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/30/18 at 8:44 PM, elecraft@mailman.qth.net (Michael Gillen 
via Elecraft) wrote:


Hmmm when I try that I get Shif=.05 however and when I turn 
VFO-A it says N/A and it still moves in .10 increments?




On Jun 30, 2018, at 7:55 PM, Jack Brindle  wrote:

PB CTRL should do what you want. See page 62 of the K3S manual.

Jack, W6FB


On Jun 30, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
 wrote:
  Good info on the filters I had never tried the LO/HI CUT 
and I like it. One question: On my K3S I
cannot set the LO CUT to .35KHz it only steps in .10 increments 
not 0.05 increments is there some CONFIG item I need to change? 
I looked through the CONFIG menus and Fred Cady’s book 
however I did not see anything about setting that step.

  73,
Michael
KK6RWK
 

On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
  Congratulations. The K3 is a really nice radio with 
extraordinary factory support.
  For SSB, I set low cut to .35 KHz and adjust the upper 
cut between 1.9 KHz and 2.8 KHz, depending
on conditions. Higher makes for easier copy, but lower will 
eliminate more noise, and help with nearby stations. Remember, 
the crystal filters are to protect the AtoD converter in the 
receiver. The DSP has many useful settings between those of the 
installed filters.

  73 Bill AE6JV
  On 6/30/18 at 5:07 PM, 1lasports...@cox.net (Bill) wrote:


I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
I have read the manual and it does not really help me.
Thanks
Bill
W3WGG

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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

Hmmm when I try that I get Shif=.05 however and when I turn VFO-A it says N/A 
and it still moves in .10 increments?


> On Jun 30, 2018, at 7:55 PM, Jack Brindle  wrote:
> 
> PB CTRL should do what you want. See page 62 of the K3S manual.
> 
> Jack, W6FB
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good info on the filters I had never tried the LO/HI CUT and I like it. One 
>> question: On my K3S I cannot set the LO CUT to .35KHz it only steps in .10 
>> increments not 0.05 increments is there some CONFIG item I need to change? I 
>> looked through the CONFIG menus and Fred Cady’s book however I did not see 
>> anything about setting that step.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Michael
>> KK6RWK
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Congratulations. The K3 is a really nice radio with extraordinary factory 
>>> support.
>>> 
>>> For SSB, I set low cut to .35 KHz and adjust the upper cut between 1.9 KHz 
>>> and 2.8 KHz, depending on conditions. Higher makes for easier copy, but 
>>> lower will eliminate more noise, and help with nearby stations. Remember, 
>>> the crystal filters are to protect the AtoD converter in the receiver. The 
>>> DSP has many useful settings between those of the installed filters.
>>> 
>>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>>> 
>>> On 6/30/18 at 5:07 PM, 1lasports...@cox.net (Bill) wrote:
>>> 
 I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
 Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
 It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
 I have read the manual and it does not really help me.
 Thanks
 Bill
 W3WGG
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3/PX3 QRP Station & Peripherals

[James Bennett]

The T1 has been sold.

The XG3 is the only remaining piece of gear left to be sold. Now: $175

> On Jun 27, 2018, at 11:59 AM, James Bennett  wrote:
> 
> A recent re-build of my office / radio shack due to hardwood flooring 
> installation brought me to the realization that I simply have more equipment 
> than I really need, or use! So, I am (sadly) pairing down the station to two 
> rigs, my K3/P3 and a new KX2/KXPA100. That means there is some equipment to 
> be sold. EVERYTHING listed below works perfectly. I am the original 
> owner/builder of all items, and they’ve never been in a smoking environment. 
> Original sales receipts for the Elecraft equipment is included. The KX3/PX3 
> has never been “in the field”, other than a mini-DXpedition to the southern 
> Philippines in 2017 as DU8/W6JHB. And that wasn’t really “in the field”, as 
> all operating was done inside air conditioned buildings!
> 
> Items will be shipped at my expense to the lower 48 states - no foreign sales 
> - sorry. I will accept personal check (two weeks to clear before shipping), 
> but I prefer PayPal, with payment going to “my call” at arrl dot net. 
> 
> KX3/PX3 Station:
>  KX3 #4359 160-6 meter all mode 15-watt HF transceiver, with manuals. Current 
> firmware installed.
>  PX3 #1234 (yes that’s the real number!) Panadapter for KX3, with owner’s 
> manual. Current firmware installed.
>  KXAT3  Internal antenna “tuner”
>  KXBC3 Internal NiMH charger with Real-Time Clock (batteries NOT included)
>  KX3-PCKT accessory cable set
>  Gemsproducts SideKX end panels and clear poly-carbonate cover for both KX3 
> and PX3 (original Elecraft side panels included)
>  Pro Audio Engineering Heatsink (original Elecraft back panel/heatsink 
> included)
>  Pro Audio Engineering Kx133 110/220v power supply
>  Fred Cady KX3 Book
> 
> PRICE FOR ALL ABOVE: $1,700 …….   If bought new today, these items (in kit 
> form) would run $2,158 plus shipping and possibly tax. 
> Sold as complete station - I do not want to piece it out.
> 
> Also for sale:
> 
> Elecraft T1 20-watt antenna tuner: $110
> 
> Elecraft XG3 & KXUSB cable: RF Signal Source: $195
> 
> Oak Hills Research WM2 QRP watt meter: $100
> 
> Please contact me off-list if you are interested. “my call” at arrl dot net
> 
> Regards, Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[Jack Brindle]

PB CTRL should do what you want. See page 62 of the K3S manual.

Jack, W6FB

> On Jun 30, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good info on the filters I had never tried the LO/HI CUT and I like it. One 
> question: On my K3S I cannot set the LO CUT to .35KHz it only steps in .10 
> increments not 0.05 increments is there some CONFIG item I need to change? I 
> looked through the CONFIG menus and Fred Cady’s book however I did not see 
> anything about setting that step.
> 
> 73,
> Michael
> KK6RWK
> 
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
>> 
>> Congratulations. The K3 is a really nice radio with extraordinary factory 
>> support.
>> 
>> For SSB, I set low cut to .35 KHz and adjust the upper cut between 1.9 KHz 
>> and 2.8 KHz, depending on conditions. Higher makes for easier copy, but 
>> lower will eliminate more noise, and help with nearby stations. Remember, 
>> the crystal filters are to protect the AtoD converter in the receiver. The 
>> DSP has many useful settings between those of the installed filters.
>> 
>> 73 Bill AE6JV
>> 
>> On 6/30/18 at 5:07 PM, 1lasports...@cox.net (Bill) wrote:
>> 
>>> I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
>>> Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
>>> It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
>>> I have read the manual and it does not really help me.
>>> Thanks
>>> Bill
>>> W3WGG
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Sound Card Problems

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

I've found the USB and CODEC drivers in Windows 10 Pro {latest update} 
to be quite stable and reliable.  I have 2 physical USB ports on this HP 
laptop computer which I use for my radio applications.   The 3rd USB 
port is always used for my wireless mouse.  I can use either one with 
the K3S and WSJT-x always loads and connects correctly to the previously 
assigned port in the WSJT-X F2 Setup menu.  In my case the K3S always 
comes up on Port 5 and the audio comes up under USB CODEC. I have 
not found it necessary to load any drivers nor have I found any drivers 
deleated.


Even shutting things down, rebooting the computer, when I load WSJT-X 
all comes up correct.   Now..I am not using any other applications 
associated with the radio such as logging, virtual ports, or USB Hubs.  
In my thinking .."more crap = more issues".  Otherwise, KISS


Now I will say if I use the computer to do some of my audio file 
editing, playing back music, or other computer sound requirements, 
sometimes using other ham radio applications such as FLDIGI, HRD, HDSDR, 
and etc,  I may have to set the defaults in the specific program again.  
Same for audio levels for Recording Devices and Playback Devices.  But I 
don't find moving the USB cable from one port to another causes any issues.


Yes, Don is correct, if you are looking at Device Manager, have Ports 
(COM & LPT) expanded you should see the USB Serial Port (COM #) come and 
go as the USB cable it plugged in or the radio is turned off and on.   
Same for the USB Audio CODEC under the Sound, Video, and Game controllers.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 6/30/2018 1:21 PM, Lee Murrah wrote:

Yes, I understand that, Don.  My point was that when the USB cables are plugged 
in, something is changing or removing the drivers.  One time everything works 
OK and the drivers are there, next time it fails and the USB drivers are gone 
or changed.

Lee, KV5M


On Jun 30, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

Lee,

As you discovered, when the USB cable is not plugged in, the USB Audio CODEC is 
not shown in Device Manager.   That is normal.  Did I misread something?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/30/2018 10:48 AM, Lee Murrah wrote:

I previously had a thread on problems I was having the internal sound card on 
FT8.  I was getting no output from the PC to the radio.  So thinking that the 
problem was how I had the internal sound card and WSJT-X set up, I switched 
back to using my SignaLink, which had worked perfectly before.  It worked fine 
for a while, but then the failed output problem returned. Mysteriously, it 
would start working again and then after a time fail again.
At one point I found that there were two USB Audio Codecs and the standard 
Realtek driver associated with the speaker settings.  I selected the one one 
not then i use, and the output returned. Then after another failure, I found 
that there was only one USB Audio Codec associated with the output.

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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

Good info on the filters I had never tried the LO/HI CUT and I like it. One 
question: On my K3S I cannot set the LO CUT to .35KHz it only steps in .10 
increments not 0.05 increments is there some CONFIG item I need to change? I 
looked through the CONFIG menus and Fred Cady’s book however I did not see 
anything about setting that step.

73,
Michael
KK6RWK


> On Jun 30, 2018, at 5:37 PM, Bill Frantz  wrote:
> 
> Congratulations. The K3 is a really nice radio with extraordinary factory 
> support.
> 
> For SSB, I set low cut to .35 KHz and adjust the upper cut between 1.9 KHz 
> and 2.8 KHz, depending on conditions. Higher makes for easier copy, but lower 
> will eliminate more noise, and help with nearby stations. Remember, the 
> crystal filters are to protect the AtoD converter in the receiver. The DSP 
> has many useful settings between those of the installed filters.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
> On 6/30/18 at 5:07 PM, 1lasports...@cox.net (Bill) wrote:
> 
>> I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
>> Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
>> It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
>> I have read the manual and it does not really help me.
>> Thanks
>> Bill
>> W3WGG
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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[David Gilbert]

Believe it or not, in some SSB contests I've dropped the hicut down to 
as low as 1100/1200 Hz and still been able to copy some voices. It's 
really dependent on the voice characteristics of the operator on the 
other end, but it works often enough to be usable in heavy QRM.


73,
Dave  AB7E


On 6/30/2018 5:36 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Bill,
For SSB use LoCut and HiCut, not shift and width.  Shift and Width 
will drive you crazy because each time you reduce the width, you will 
have to adjust Shift to maintain a good center frequency. HiCut.LoCut 
adjusts it automatically.


Set the low end between 300 and 400 Hz initially, then set the high 
end initially for 2800 to 2900.  If there is QRM on the high frequency 
side, reduce the HiCut, and if there is QRM on the low frequency side, 
increase LoCut.


You will find that you cannot cut the low frequency end very far 
before you lose intelligibility, but you can cut the high end 
significantly. While you will lose the voice characteristics, it will 
remain intelligible down to 1600 or 1800 Hz.


73,
Don W3FPR


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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[ab2tc]

Hi Bill,

For SSB use the LoCut/HiCut mode. Set LoCut for 300Hz and HighCut for 2700Hz
initially.  That gives you comfortable audio when there is no serious QRM.
If QRM from above in frequency bothers you, crank the HiCut down to 2400Hz
or even 2100Hz. If you have narrower crystal filters, like 2100Hz or 1800Hz
they will switch in automatically. Don't touch the FL button. If you have
QRM from below (assuming USB) unfortunately there isn't much you can do. As
Don says (in a different thread), cutting the lows much above 300Hz quickly
affects intelligibility. Lowering the HiCut also lowers the noise floor of
the receiver if you are listening to a signal in the noise.

AB2TC - Knut


Cady, Fred-2 wrote
> Hi Bill,
> 
> Adjust the lo and hi cut filters to make the signal you are listening to
> sound good (in the absence or QRM).  In a crowded band with QRM on either
> side, adjust either the lo or hi cut to reduce or eliminate the
> interference.  Note that the lo and hi refer to audio frequencies.  If an
> interfering station has a higher pitch, adjust the hi cut; lower pitch the
> lo cut.  You shouldn't consider these controls to be set and forget.  They
> can be changed to meet changing reception conditions.
> 
> Lo and hi cut have no effect on your transmitted signal.
> 
> 
> Cheers and enjoy the K3.
> 
> Fred KE7X
> 
> 
> For all KE7X elecraft books, see www.ke7x.com;
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: 

> elecraft-bounces@.qth

>  <

> elecraft-bounces@.qth

> > on behalf of Bill <

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> Subject: [Elecraft] Filters
> 
> I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
> Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
> It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
> I have read the manual and it does not really help me.
> Thanks
> Bill
> W3WGG
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[Cady, Fred]

Hi Bill,

Adjust the lo and hi cut filters to make the signal you are listening to sound 
good (in the absence or QRM).  In a crowded band with QRM on either side, 
adjust either the lo or hi cut to reduce or eliminate the interference.  Note 
that the lo and hi refer to audio frequencies.  If an interfering station has a 
higher pitch, adjust the hi cut; lower pitch the lo cut.  You shouldn't 
consider these controls to be set and forget.  They can be changed to meet 
changing reception conditions.

Lo and hi cut have no effect on your transmitted signal.


Cheers and enjoy the K3.

Fred KE7X


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Subject: [Elecraft] Filters

I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
I have read the manual and it does not really help me.
Thanks
Bill
W3WGG


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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[Bill Frantz]

Congratulations. The K3 is a really nice radio with 
extraordinary factory support.


For SSB, I set low cut to .35 KHz and adjust the upper cut 
between 1.9 KHz and 2.8 KHz, depending on conditions. Higher 
makes for easier copy, but lower will eliminate more noise, and 
help with nearby stations. Remember, the crystal filters are to 
protect the AtoD converter in the receiver. The DSP has many 
useful settings between those of the installed filters.


73 Bill AE6JV

On 6/30/18 at 5:07 PM, 1lasports...@cox.net (Bill) wrote:


I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
I have read the manual and it does not really help me.
Thanks
Bill
W3WGG


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Re: [Elecraft] Filters

[Don Wilhelm]

Bill,
For SSB use LoCut and HiCut, not shift and width.  Shift and Width will 
drive you crazy because each time you reduce the width, you will have to 
adjust Shift to maintain a good center frequency.  HiCut.LoCut adjusts 
it automatically.


Set the low end between 300 and 400 Hz initially, then set the high end 
initially for 2800 to 2900.  If there is QRM on the high frequency side, 
reduce the HiCut, and if there is QRM on the low frequency side, 
increase LoCut.


You will find that you cannot cut the low frequency end very far before 
you lose intelligibility, but you can cut the high end significantly. 
While you will lose the voice characteristics, it will remain 
intelligible down to 1600 or 1800 Hz.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/30/2018 8:07 PM, Bill wrote:

I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
I have read the manual and it does not really help me.

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[Elecraft] [FS] KXPA100-F with KXAT100 and Mount -- SOLD

[Bob via Elecraft]

Elecraft KXPA100-F with KXAT100 and mount has been sold.

Bob
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[Elecraft] Filters

[Bill]

I recently purchased a K3 and trying to set up for SSB.I do not do code.
Is there any recommended settings for the shift lo cut and width?
It has the KFL3A-400 and the KFL3A-12.8 8 pole filters installed
I have read the manual and it does not really help me.
Thanks
Bill
W3WGG


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Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question

[John_N1JM]

I monitor the list on Nabble and reply from there like I am doing now.
Prevents a lot of inbox clutter.

73, John N1JM



Lee Murrah wrote
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> topics include the text of the prior message and a modified subject line
> in the form you would expect when replying to an email.  However, there is
> no way to reply directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject
> line as far as I know.  How can I do this?  
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Re: [Elecraft] Sound Card Problems

[Don Wilhelm]

Lee,

Blame Microsoft!
Are you careful to always use the same USB port for the same soundcard 
device?  If not, that may the reason you see a change.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/30/2018 2:21 PM, Lee Murrah wrote:

Yes, I understand that, Don.  My point was that when the USB cables are plugged 
in, something is changing or removing the drivers.  One time everything works 
OK and the drivers are there, next time it fails and the USB drivers are gone 
or changed.


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Re: [Elecraft] Sound Card Problems

[William Wisbey]

With many USB devices if you change the USB port it is plugged into it will 
load a new instance of drivers and create a new “device”.

It’s puzzling until you figure it out. 

The secret is to always plug the USB device into the same USB port on the 
computer (or hub as the case may be). 

73,

Allen Wisbey, W1SBY


> On Jun 30, 2018, at 1:21 PM, Lee Murrah  wrote:
> 
> Yes, I understand that, Don.  My point was that when the USB cables are 
> plugged in, something is changing or removing the drivers.  One time 
> everything works OK and the drivers are there, next time it fails and the USB 
> drivers are gone or changed.
> 
> Lee, KV5M
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>> 
>> Lee,
>> 
>> As you discovered, when the USB cable is not plugged in, the USB Audio CODEC 
>> is not shown in Device Manager.   That is normal.  Did I misread something?
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>>> On 6/30/2018 10:48 AM, Lee Murrah wrote:
>>> I previously had a thread on problems I was having the internal sound card 
>>> on FT8.  I was getting no output from the PC to the radio.  So thinking 
>>> that the problem was how I had the internal sound card and WSJT-X set up, I 
>>> switched back to using my SignaLink, which had worked perfectly before.  It 
>>> worked fine for a while, but then the failed output problem returned. 
>>> Mysteriously, it would start working again and then after a time fail again.
>>> At one point I found that there were two USB Audio Codecs and the standard 
>>> Realtek driver associated with the speaker settings.  I selected the one 
>>> one not then i use, and the output returned. Then after another failure, I 
>>> found that there was only one USB Audio Codec associated with the output.
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Re: [Elecraft] Sound Card Problems

[Lee Murrah]

Yes, I understand that, Don.  My point was that when the USB cables are plugged 
in, something is changing or removing the drivers.  One time everything works 
OK and the drivers are there, next time it fails and the USB drivers are gone 
or changed.

Lee, KV5M

> On Jun 30, 2018, at 10:09 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Lee,
> 
> As you discovered, when the USB cable is not plugged in, the USB Audio CODEC 
> is not shown in Device Manager.   That is normal.  Did I misread something?
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 6/30/2018 10:48 AM, Lee Murrah wrote:
>> I previously had a thread on problems I was having the internal sound card 
>> on FT8.  I was getting no output from the PC to the radio.  So thinking that 
>> the problem was how I had the internal sound card and WSJT-X set up, I 
>> switched back to using my SignaLink, which had worked perfectly before.  It 
>> worked fine for a while, but then the failed output problem returned. 
>> Mysteriously, it would start working again and then after a time fail again.
>> At one point I found that there were two USB Audio Codecs and the standard 
>> Realtek driver associated with the speaker settings.  I selected the one one 
>> not then i use, and the output returned. Then after another failure, I found 
>> that there was only one USB Audio Codec associated with the output.

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Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question

[Neil Zampella]

Lee,

I get the digest too, and the Elecraft reflect includes the messages as 
attachments.  I'm not sure what email program you're using, as I use 
Thunderbird, and it does this.


What I do is if I find a message I want to reply to I look at the list, 
get an idea of which message it is in the attachement list and double 
click on it.   It then comes up as a standard message I can click the 
reply button on.


I then delete all other emails listed other than the Elecraft reflector 
and add my reply.


This works for me, YMMV.

Neil, KN3ILZ


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you would expect when replying to an email.  However, there is no way to reply 
directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject line as far as I 
know.  How can I do this?


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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Band Boards

[Wayne Burdick]

The K1 band modules, as designed, required high-value trimmer capacitors with a 
low temperature coefficient. Unfortunately, these have become unobtainium.

The KX2 and KX3 take a different approach.  They still have per-band filters 
with excellent stopband attenuation, but they don’t require tuning. Of course 
these rigs also cover many more bands (9 and 11 respectively) without the need 
for modules.

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> On Jun 30, 2018, at 9:57 AM, David Gilbert  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> What's not so hot about 20/30?  Seems to me that's still a good combination.
> 
> But I thought the reason the boards aren't available anymore was that 
> critical parts weren't available anymore.  If so, having the boards isn't 
> going to help you much.
> 
> There were several of us who bought the 4-band module, though, which made 
> some of the 2-band modules kind of superfluous.  I'm saving my 20/40 board 
> just in case, but I bet if you asked there would be folks willing to sell you 
> theirs.
> 
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
> 
> 
>> On 6/30/2018 6:01 AM, Randall Sanborn wrote:
>> I've rejoined the list after some time away.
>> 
>> I built a K1 several years ago with 2 bands (20/30). It turns out that's
>> not so hot anymore, and Elecraft sold down their old inventory of band
>> boards. Does anyone know if they publish board layouts if folks wanted to
>> try to reproduce them on their own?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K1 Band Boards

[David Gilbert]

What's not so hot about 20/30?  Seems to me that's still a good combination.

But I thought the reason the boards aren't available anymore was that 
critical parts weren't available anymore.  If so, having the boards 
isn't going to help you much.


There were several of us who bought the 4-band module, though, which 
made some of the 2-band modules kind of superfluous.  I'm saving my 
20/40 board just in case, but I bet if you asked there would be folks 
willing to sell you theirs.


73,
Dave   AB7E


On 6/30/2018 6:01 AM, Randall Sanborn wrote:

I've rejoined the list after some time away.

I built a K1 several years ago with 2 bands (20/30). It turns out that's
not so hot anymore, and Elecraft sold down their old inventory of band
boards. Does anyone know if they publish board layouts if folks wanted to
try to reproduce them on their own?

Regards,

Randall
AE8RS
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] factory upgrade to K3(s)

[Wayne Burdick]

Yes, the original phase noise plot was way off reality. The ARRL corrected it 
in a subsequent issue. 

The KSYN3A gives the K3 and K3S among the best RMDR and lowest TX phase noise 
of any transceiver. 

73,
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> On Jun 30, 2018, at 9:02 AM, a**@sbcglobal  wrote:
> 
> Ian, now that I think of it, wasn’t the first ARRL KSYN3A review in error and 
> then an updated review came out, or something like that? Does anybody 
> remember? I wonder if Ian and I are looking at two different reviews of the 
> same product. . 
> 
> Al. W6LX
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[Elecraft] K3 Remote Control of Line In

[AL7CR]

I am working on remote control of my K3S in Data A mode.  I was pleased to see 
that a recent version of Win4K3 displays the ALC on transmit.  I discovered 
however that the mike gain control in Win4K3 does not control line in when 
using Data A as it does on the radio but continues to control the mike gain.  
That is a major problem if you wish to do remote control using a screen 
mirroring program.  I considered writing a macro for this purpose however there 
does not appear to be any provision for controlling or reporting the line in 
value in the command set.

As a result of the above I have two questions:

1.  Is there a method to remotely control the line in value?

2.  Does a K3/0 control line in when in Data A and mike gain when in SSB as 
does the radio?


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[Elecraft] K2 display

[Frank Krozel]

Trying to recall (I have had some 10 K2’s) were there any that were produced 
without backlighting?
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Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question

[Don Wilhelm]

That is why I believe it is easier to receive the individual emails.
Create an "Elecraft" folder in your email program and set a filter send 
everything with [Elecraft] in the subject line to that folder.

You then have your own "digest" and can reply to the individual emails.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/30/2018 11:08 AM, Kevin Cozens wrote:


You will have to manually cut out all parts of the digest that aren't 
relative to the message to which you want to reply. Include only enough 
of the message you are replying to for context. You will also have to 
copy and paste the subject line from the message in to the Subject line 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] factory upgrade to K3(s)

[a******@sbcglobal]

Ian, now that I think of it, wasn’t the first ARRL KSYN3A review in error and 
then an updated review came out, or something like that? Does anybody remember? 
I wonder if Ian and I are looking at two different reviews of the same product. 
. 

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Re: [Elecraft] FS: KX3/PX3 QRP Station & Peripherals

[James Bennett]

The KX3/PX3 station has been sold. I still have the T1 QRP Tuner and XG3 Signal 
Source if anyone is interested.

Jim Bennett / W6JHB
Folsom, CA

> On Jun 27, 2018, at 11:59 AM, James Bennett  wrote:
> 
> A recent re-build of my office / radio shack due to hardwood flooring 
> installation brought me to the realization that I simply have more equipment 
> than I really need, or use! So, I am (sadly) pairing down the station to two 
> rigs, my K3/P3 and a new KX2/KXPA100. That means there is some equipment to 
> be sold. EVERYTHING listed below works perfectly. I am the original 
> owner/builder of all items, and they’ve never been in a smoking environment. 
> Original sales receipts for the Elecraft equipment is included. The KX3/PX3 
> has never been “in the field”, other than a mini-DXpedition to the southern 
> Philippines in 2017 as DU8/W6JHB. And that wasn’t really “in the field”, as 
> all operating was done inside air conditioned buildings!
> 
> Items will be shipped at my expense to the lower 48 states - no foreign sales 
> - sorry. I will accept personal check (two weeks to clear before shipping), 
> but I prefer PayPal, with payment going to “my call” at arrl dot net. 
> 
> KX3/PX3 Station:
>  KX3 #4359 160-6 meter all mode 15-watt HF transceiver, with manuals. Current 
> firmware installed.
>  PX3 #1234 (yes that’s the real number!) Panadapter for KX3, with owner’s 
> manual. Current firmware installed.
>  KXAT3  Internal antenna “tuner”
>  KXBC3 Internal NiMH charger with Real-Time Clock (batteries NOT included)
>  KX3-PCKT accessory cable set
>  Gemsproducts SideKX end panels and clear poly-carbonate cover for both KX3 
> and PX3 (original Elecraft side panels included)
>  Pro Audio Engineering Heatsink (original Elecraft back panel/heatsink 
> included)
>  Pro Audio Engineering Kx133 110/220v power supply
>  Fred Cady KX3 Book
> 
> PRICE FOR ALL ABOVE: $1,700 …….   If bought new today, these items (in kit 
> form) would run $2,158 plus shipping and possibly tax. 
> Sold as complete station - I do not want to piece it out.
> 
> Also for sale:
> 
> Elecraft T1 20-watt antenna tuner: $110
> 
> Elecraft XG3 & KXUSB cable: RF Signal Source: $195
> 
> Oak Hills Research WM2 QRP watt meter: $100
> 
> Please contact me off-list if you are interested. “my call” at arrl dot net
> 
> Regards, Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
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[Elecraft] Field Day (Late Response)

[Rich]

I found myself in the middle of nowhere in WV the day after FD, no phone 
or internet.  That was actually kind of nice!  So I missed the parade of 
FD comments.


For the past 10 - 12 years I have operated FD at our clubhouse (nice 
radios and antennas but no Elecraft stuff) which is always fun, but this 
year I decided I wanted to do FD with my K3S and K3s.


Wow!

My antennas consist of wires and verticals, that is it.  I only ran 
SSB.  I was amazed how weak signals just popped out of the noise.   Even 
the "soft talkers".   I had absolutely no trouble making Qs with the 
weakest of the weak.  In laymen terms, the audio seems to sit right on 
top of the noise.  I actually ran some really high Q rates which is not 
always easy to do on FD.


Hats off to the folks at Elecraft.

Rich

K3RWN




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Re: [Elecraft] Sound Card Problems

[Don Wilhelm]

Lee,

As you discovered, when the USB cable is not plugged in, the USB Audio 
CODEC is not shown in Device Manager.   That is normal.  Did I misread 
something?


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/30/2018 10:48 AM, Lee Murrah wrote:

I previously had a thread on problems I was having the internal sound card on 
FT8.  I was getting no output from the PC to the radio.  So thinking that the 
problem was how I had the internal sound card and WSJT-X set up, I switched 
back to using my SignaLink, which had worked perfectly before.  It worked fine 
for a while, but then the failed output problem returned. Mysteriously, it 
would start working again and then after a time fail again.

At one point I found that there were two USB Audio Codecs and the standard 
Realtek driver associated with the speaker settings.  I selected the one one 
not then i use, and the output returned. Then after another failure, I found 
that there was only one USB Audio Codec associated with the output.


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Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question

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On 2018-06-30 10:09 AM, Lee Murrah wrote:

I am receiving messages in the digest mode. I see that most replies to topics 
include the text of the prior message and a modified subject line in the form 
you would expect when replying to an email.  However, there is no way to reply 
directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject line as far as I 
know.  How can I do this?


You will have to manually cut out all parts of the digest that aren't 
relative to the message to which you want to reply. Include only enough of 
the message you are replying to for context. You will also have to copy and 
paste the subject line from the message in to the Subject line field of the 
new message.


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Cheers!

Kevin.

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[Elecraft] Sound Card Problems

[Lee Murrah]

I previously had a thread on problems I was having the internal sound card on 
FT8.  I was getting no output from the PC to the radio.  So thinking that the 
problem was how I had the internal sound card and WSJT-X set up, I switched 
back to using my SignaLink, which had worked perfectly before.  It worked fine 
for a while, but then the failed output problem returned. Mysteriously, it 
would start working again and then after a time fail again.

At one point I found that there were two USB Audio Codecs and the standard 
Realtek driver associated with the speaker settings.  I selected the one one 
not then i use, and the output returned. Then after another failure, I found 
that there was only one USB Audio Codec associated with the output.  

This morning I rebooted the computer with nothing connected and found only the 
Realtek driver.  I added the K3S USB cable, and one of the Codecs returned.  I 
added the SignaLink cable, and the second Codec returned.  By selecting the 
correct USB Codec, I was back in business.

So somehow the Codec driver for the SignaLink is getting changed or wiped out.  
I assume that when I used the internal sound card, the wrong Codec was selected.

I hope this helps anyone else having similar problems. Any insights on how the 
CODEC is wiped out would be much appreciated.

Lee, KV5M
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[Elecraft] Suggestions

[Jim Leder]

I have a KX3 and do mostly CW on the road with it. I have the KXPD3 paddle. I 
also had the intermittent keying operation with dits and dahs and did the mod 
to add the small wires to correct it. For the most part, that did fix it. 
However, recently I’ve noticed that the dah side gets screwy now and then, dit 
side seems ok. During FD, I had made about 90 contacts, and other then my 
operator errors, the paddle worked perfectly. I got up to get a drink, hit the 
head and came back for more operating. The KXPD3 immediately started acting up 
with incomplete dahs, dit side was just fine. NO one touched it and it only sat 
idle for 10 minutes or so. I was forced to break out the Bencher BY1 and was 
able to net another 30 contacts before hanging it up. Bencher worked fine 
(except for me on occasion).
I like the paddle, and really don’t want to drag the much bigger and heavier 
Bencher around with me on the portable operations.
I am at a loss to understand why it could do so well for so long, and then get 
weird.

Any suggestions or ideas? Elecraft? Anyone?

Thanks…

Jim Leder … K8CXM

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Re: [Elecraft] K2: The green glow returns!

[Marty via Elecraft]

I bought my K2/100 already built and use it as my Expedition radio and love it. 
 Though I’ve built a KX1 in the past I haven’t had the pleasure of building a 
K2.  I think I would enjoy building a bare bones QRP K2 just to have the 
experience. I built many Heathkits back in the day, and still use some of the 
test equipment I built.  

 Hmmm. So many projects, so short a lifetime!

73 Marty / W4MY

> On Jun 30, 2018, at 08:57, Gary Watson  wrote:
> 
> Great news for the K2 Wayne,
> 
> I finished my K2/100 Twins about 1 1/2 yrs ago.  It's the first rig I turn
> on in the morning and the last I turn off at night even though I have a
> K-Line.  I can't believe how much pleasure that piece of equipment has
> given me.  This morning I'll be disconnecting the K2 this morning and
> heading out to coffee with our little klub in Bigfork, MT.  BARK/K7CMT
> 
> We set up a little ham stick dipole up at 12 feet or so outside the coffee
> shop and operate CW.  Curious customers always are amazed the radio was a
> kit.  The CW ringing out from the speaker sounds so nice it  draws people
> over.  We worked ON4UN with 10 watts about 6 months ago from there. It
> shows how good his antenna's work!
> 
> I hope every ham on the reflector orders one from you.  Long live the K2.
> 
> Gary/W7EE
> 
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 9:21 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
>> 
>> A few years ago, in a distant land known for its modular seafood
>> delicacies, one of our vendors decided--without informing us--to stop
>> producing a critical item used in the Elecraft K2: the LCD backlight. We
>> got the news when we attempted to re-order early this year.
>> 
>> Worse, they could never make them again. Both the dusty scrolls upon which
>> the details were scribed and the monks who toiled in the secret factory had
>> vanished. We would have to reinvent this particular wheel.
>> 
>> That task has now been completed; we home-rolled our own backlight from
>> modern materials. We’re pleased to announce that the new green glow is the
>> equal of the old. Thus the K2 is reborn, on approximately the 20th
>> anniversary of its first beta shipments. It’s in stock and ready to
>> exercise kit-building muscles of all ages.
>> 
>> Why build a K2? To summarize what our thousands of builders have told us:
>> 
>>  - it’s fun, and the fun can be shared (with one’s progeny, for example)
>> 
>>  - educational (you’ll learn a *lot* about how a radio works)
>> 
>>  - rewarding (it’s still the only high-performance, all-band HF kit radio)
>> 
>> Regarding the K2’s performance, you may have read recent enthusiastic
>> Field Day reports from its owners. This is no coincidence. The K2 was bred
>> for success at battery-powered field outings, with both ultra-low current
>> drain (~150 to 200 mA) and high blocking dynamic range (it’s one of very
>> few low-cost transceivers to hit the magical 135 dB level, allowing
>> co-located rigs to play fair). The K2 is also an analog superhet design,
>> with crisp audio and very fast QSK.
>> 
>> This is a great time to embark on a K2 adventure, given various specials
>> in honor of summertime and the K2’s reemergence. You can find these
>> specials on our order page (www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm). Or
>> give us a call to talk about which K2 package would best suit your needs.
>> 
>> A K2 can be upgraded at any time by installing your choice of several
>> option modules. No particular order is required. The most popular options
>> are the wide-range ATU (KAT2) and SSB module (KSB2).
>> 
>> If I’ve left any of the K2’s technical or philosophical mysteries to your
>> imagination, feel free to email me directly.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question

[Douglas Hudson]

Lee,

At the bottom of each individual post are links to the mail server.  Follow the 
first link (Elecraft mailing list Home: ...), scroll down a bit to where it 
asks if you want your mail sent to you in digest form.  Click the NO circle and 
send your updated preference.

Doug H
K7CUU




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directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject line as far as I 
know. How can I do this? 
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[Elecraft] Mail List Procedure Question

[Lee Murrah]

I am receiving messages in the digest mode. I see that most replies to topics 
include the text of the prior message and a modified subject line in the form 
you would expect when replying to an email.  However, there is no way to reply 
directly to a topic and include the prior text and subject line as far as I 
know.  How can I do this?  
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 amplification and microphone

[Bob McGraw K4TAX]

With that combination which I have, I suggest setting the CMP to a value 
of 15 to 17 so as to produce about 3 to 4 bars on the CMP scale.  Also, 
you will need to adjust the MIC gain value such that you get 4 to 5 bars 
on the ALC scale.


Yes, mike-to-mouth position is critical.  I'm not familiar with the the 
MC-60 and its pattern characteristics.  If you like that mike and you 
get good quality audio reports then I'd say it is OK.   Personally I use 
a dynamic mike such as the Shure SM-58 or other like mike.    With that, 
the "4 finger" rule, being mouth straight on axis with the mike and 4 
fingers distance from the face of the mike I find to produce the best 
result.   At the same time, the closer to the face of the mike, the more 
critical the mike-to-mouth position becomes.   And if one is too far 
from the mike, added mike gain is required and the room noise becomes 
noticeable.


Again, mike-to-mouth position and consistency is very important to good 
quality audio.  Perhaps that is why many use a headphone boom mike.  The 
mike stays constant with regard to ones mouth as they move around and 
look at different things in the room.


73

Bob, K4TAX


On 6/30/2018 8:29 AM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote:

Hello guys!

I got my very first amp on Wednesday, a KPA500 and started using it along with 
the KAT500 I ordered and a K3S I purchased last month.

Here is my question: I noticed that when I transmit, the power output varies 
significantly depending upon how close my mouth is to the Kenwood MC-60 
microphone (no batteries in the mic). Is this normal? And how do I make this 
more consistent? Try to always put my mouth in the same relative position? Buy 
a different microphone?

Thanks,
Michael
KK6RWK
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA500 amplification and microphone

[Ken Winterling]

Michael,

I have the KPA500 and the KAT500 but use them with an Icom IC-7610.  The
amp and tuner are a great combination.

Regarding the mic and varying power, you need to maintain a consistent
distance from the mic and a consistent audio level when speaking into the
mic or your power will drop off.   Watch the mic gain setting, you don’t
want it so sensitive that the mic picks up room noise.

Ken
WA2LBI


On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 09:29 Michael Gillen via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Hello guys!
>
> I got my very first amp on Wednesday, a KPA500 and started using it along
> with the KAT500 I ordered and a K3S I purchased last month.
>
> Here is my question: I noticed that when I transmit, the power output
> varies significantly depending upon how close my mouth is to the Kenwood
> MC-60 microphone (no batteries in the mic). Is this normal? And how do I
> make this more consistent? Try to always put my mouth in the same relative
> position? Buy a different microphone?
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
> KK6RWK



> --

Ken
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[Elecraft] KPA500 amplification and microphone

[Michael Gillen via Elecraft]

Hello guys!

I got my very first amp on Wednesday, a KPA500 and started using it along with 
the KAT500 I ordered and a K3S I purchased last month.

Here is my question: I noticed that when I transmit, the power output varies 
significantly depending upon how close my mouth is to the Kenwood MC-60 
microphone (no batteries in the mic). Is this normal? And how do I make this 
more consistent? Try to always put my mouth in the same relative position? Buy 
a different microphone?

Thanks,
Michael
KK6RWK
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[Elecraft] K1 Band Boards

[Randall Sanborn]

I've rejoined the list after some time away.

I built a K1 several years ago with 2 bands (20/30). It turns out that's
not so hot anymore, and Elecraft sold down their old inventory of band
boards. Does anyone know if they publish board layouts if folks wanted to
try to reproduce them on their own?

Regards,

Randall
AE8RS
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: The green glow returns!

[Gary Watson]

Great news for the K2 Wayne,

I finished my K2/100 Twins about 1 1/2 yrs ago.  It's the first rig I turn
on in the morning and the last I turn off at night even though I have a
K-Line.  I can't believe how much pleasure that piece of equipment has
given me.  This morning I'll be disconnecting the K2 this morning and
heading out to coffee with our little klub in Bigfork, MT.  BARK/K7CMT

We set up a little ham stick dipole up at 12 feet or so outside the coffee
shop and operate CW.  Curious customers always are amazed the radio was a
kit.  The CW ringing out from the speaker sounds so nice it  draws people
over.  We worked ON4UN with 10 watts about 6 months ago from there. It
shows how good his antenna's work!

I hope every ham on the reflector orders one from you.  Long live the K2.

Gary/W7EE



On Fri, Jun 29, 2018 at 9:21 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> A few years ago, in a distant land known for its modular seafood
> delicacies, one of our vendors decided--without informing us--to stop
> producing a critical item used in the Elecraft K2: the LCD backlight. We
> got the news when we attempted to re-order early this year.
>
> Worse, they could never make them again. Both the dusty scrolls upon which
> the details were scribed and the monks who toiled in the secret factory had
> vanished. We would have to reinvent this particular wheel.
>
> That task has now been completed; we home-rolled our own backlight from
> modern materials. We’re pleased to announce that the new green glow is the
> equal of the old. Thus the K2 is reborn, on approximately the 20th
> anniversary of its first beta shipments. It’s in stock and ready to
> exercise kit-building muscles of all ages.
>
> Why build a K2? To summarize what our thousands of builders have told us:
>
>   - it’s fun, and the fun can be shared (with one’s progeny, for example)
>
>   - educational (you’ll learn a *lot* about how a radio works)
>
>   - rewarding (it’s still the only high-performance, all-band HF kit radio)
>
> Regarding the K2’s performance, you may have read recent enthusiastic
> Field Day reports from its owners. This is no coincidence. The K2 was bred
> for success at battery-powered field outings, with both ultra-low current
> drain (~150 to 200 mA) and high blocking dynamic range (it’s one of very
> few low-cost transceivers to hit the magical 135 dB level, allowing
> co-located rigs to play fair). The K2 is also an analog superhet design,
> with crisp audio and very fast QSK.
>
> This is a great time to embark on a K2 adventure, given various specials
> in honor of summertime and the K2’s reemergence. You can find these
> specials on our order page (www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm). Or
> give us a call to talk about which K2 package would best suit your needs.
>
> A K2 can be upgraded at any time by installing your choice of several
> option modules. No particular order is required. The most popular options
> are the wide-range ATU (KAT2) and SSB module (KSB2).
>
> If I’ve left any of the K2’s technical or philosophical mysteries to your
> imagination, feel free to email me directly.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Elecraft] Kudos to Parts Dept/Customer Support

[Paula Uscian]

This past Monday I noticed the RF control knob for my main K3 receiver was 
loose. My investigation revealed the knob was cracked. I emailed the
Elecraft Parts Department to obtain a replacement knob. Elecraft emailed me 
back that it was posting replacements to me free of charge.

A few days later, the knobs arrived in the mail. Not only do I have 2 
replacements for the smaller knobs, I have a set of the larger ones as well 
"just in case."

Many thanks to Elecraft for great support and service! I have 4 pieces of 
Elecraft gear in regular service, and the excellent support is a big reason why.

73 Paula k9ir
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Re: [Elecraft] K2: The green glow returns!

[Drew AF2Z]

Always liked that green display! Glad it is back.

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On 06/29/18 17:21, Wayne Burdick wrote:

A few years ago, in a distant land known for its modular seafood delicacies, 
one of our vendors decided--without informing us--to stop producing a critical 
item used in the Elecraft K2: the LCD backlight. We got the news when we 
attempted to re-order early this year.

Worse, they could never make them again. Both the dusty scrolls upon which the 
details were scribed and the monks who toiled in the secret factory had 
vanished. We would have to reinvent this particular wheel.

That task has now been completed; we home-rolled our own backlight from modern 
materials. We’re pleased to announce that the new green glow is the equal of 
the old. Thus the K2 is reborn, on approximately the 20th anniversary of its 
first beta shipments. It’s in stock and ready to exercise kit-building muscles 
of all ages.

Why build a K2? To summarize what our thousands of builders have told us:

   - it’s fun, and the fun can be shared (with one’s progeny, for example)

   - educational (you’ll learn a *lot* about how a radio works)

   - rewarding (it’s still the only high-performance, all-band HF kit radio)

Regarding the K2’s performance, you may have read recent enthusiastic Field Day 
reports from its owners. This is no coincidence. The K2 was bred for success at 
battery-powered field outings, with both ultra-low current drain (~150 to 200 
mA) and high blocking dynamic range (it’s one of very few low-cost transceivers 
to hit the magical 135 dB level, allowing co-located rigs to play fair). The K2 
is also an analog superhet design, with crisp audio and very fast QSK.

This is a great time to embark on a K2 adventure, given various specials in 
honor of summertime and the K2’s reemergence. You can find these specials on 
our order page (www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm). Or give us a call to 
talk about which K2 package would best suit your needs.

A K2 can be upgraded at any time by installing your choice of several option 
modules. No particular order is required. The most popular options are the 
wide-range ATU (KAT2) and SSB module (KSB2).

If I’ve left any of the K2’s technical or philosophical mysteries to your 
imagination, feel free to email me directly.

73,
Wayne
N6KR








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Re: [Elecraft] K2: The green glow returns!

[Neil Zampella]

Wayne,

you've almost made me want to order another K2 kit, even though I just 
finished one.    That said, if anyone has one they want someone else to 
build .. hi hi.


Neil, KN3ILZ


On 6/29/2018 5:21 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

A few years ago, in a distant land known for its modular seafood delicacies, 
one of our vendors decided--without informing us--to stop producing a critical 
item used in the Elecraft K2: the LCD backlight. We got the news when we 
attempted to re-order early this year.

Worse, they could never make them again. Both the dusty scrolls upon which the 
details were scribed and the monks who toiled in the secret factory had 
vanished. We would have to reinvent this particular wheel.

That task has now been completed; we home-rolled our own backlight from modern 
materials. We’re pleased to announce that the new green glow is the equal of 
the old. Thus the K2 is reborn, on approximately the 20th anniversary of its 
first beta shipments. It’s in stock and ready to exercise kit-building muscles 
of all ages.

Why build a K2? To summarize what our thousands of builders have told us:

   - it’s fun, and the fun can be shared (with one’s progeny, for example)

   - educational (you’ll learn a *lot* about how a radio works)

   - rewarding (it’s still the only high-performance, all-band HF kit radio)

Regarding the K2’s performance, you may have read recent enthusiastic Field Day 
reports from its owners. This is no coincidence. The K2 was bred for success at 
battery-powered field outings, with both ultra-low current drain (~150 to 200 
mA) and high blocking dynamic range (it’s one of very few low-cost transceivers 
to hit the magical 135 dB level, allowing co-located rigs to play fair). The K2 
is also an analog superhet design, with crisp audio and very fast QSK.

This is a great time to embark on a K2 adventure, given various specials in 
honor of summertime and the K2’s reemergence. You can find these specials on 
our order page (www.elecraft.com/elecraft_prod_list.htm). Or give us a call to 
talk about which K2 package would best suit your needs.

A K2 can be upgraded at any time by installing your choice of several option 
modules. No particular order is required. The most popular options are the 
wide-range ATU (KAT2) and SSB module (KSB2).

If I’ve left any of the K2’s technical or philosophical mysteries to your 
imagination, feel free to email me directly.

73,
Wayne
N6KR











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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and WSJT-X Split operation.

[Neil Zampella]

I can backup Don's statement about the K2.

I have my K2/100 working reliably with the KAT100, connected to the PC 
using a serial to USB adapter.   Using the DXLabs DX Commander to 
control the rig, and interface with WSJT-X, PTT is through CAT.


I can even work remotely using VNC, as the DX Commander allows me to 
adjust the power if necessary using a slider and the K2 command set.


Neil, KN3ILZ

On 6/29/2018 4:16 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

Wes,

I certainly did not realize that VOX was a no-no!
In fact the DATA MODES section of the K3 manual clearly states "You cn 
use either VOX or PTT."

If your audio levels are correct, VOX should be no problem.
I personally prefer PTT via CAT command.

Now if you are using the K2, then I definitely recommend NOT using VOX 
because it does not trigger reliably with DATA mode audio.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/29/2018 3:24 PM, Wes Stewart wrote:
I realize that Elecraft's position is that VOX is a no-no. 




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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] factory upgrade to K3(s)

[Ian White]

Al, thank you for pointing this out.

To my surprise, the reason for the difference between Al's
interpretation and mine is that there are *two different versions*
of the ARRL review of the KSYN3A, both available on the arrl.org
website. The version retrieved appears to depend on the search route
taken.

My message posted on Wednesday 27th June was based on the weblink
referenced within the message. In that version, Figure 10 shows a
very distinct phase noise advantage for the older KSYN3 at wider
frequency offsets.

However, the version accessed by Al is *different*. In this second
version, Figures 10 and 11 both show much lower levels of phase
noise from the KSYN3A at wider frequency offsets. (That appears to
be the only change, that Figures 10 and 11 have been quietly
replaced.) Based on this second version, I would agree with Al that
there is no significant difference in phase noise between the KSYN3
and KSYN3A at wider offsets. 

In view of the uncertainly between the two different sets of
published results for wider frequency offsets, it seems best to
withdraw my message posted on Wednesday 27th June.

Thanks once again to Al W6LX for pointing this out.

73 from Ian GM3SEK


>-Original Message-
>From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-
>boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Al Lorona
>Sent: 29 June 2018 22:47
>To: Ian White; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] factory upgrade to K3(s)
>
>I'm not sure I agree with the exact numbers, Ian. I'm looking at
the
>review from Nov 2015 QST (from the Product Review archive on
>www.arrl.org ) and it appears that the difference in phase noise
>between old and new synths is closer to about 3 dB (difficult to
tell from
>the graph) beginning at offsets of *50 or 100 kHz*, not the 6 kHz
you
>cited. At 6 kHz the new still beats the old by almost 20 dB!
>
>So, while the old synthesizer certainly exhibits lower transmitted
phase
>noise out beyond 50 kHz offset, the new one is within a few dB of
it,
>and at 50 MHz both seem to meet the -130 dBc/Hz limit you cited.
>
>Al W6LX
>
>
>
>
>From: Ian White 
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 2:45 PM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] factory upgrade to K3(s)
>
>
>
>>A big reduction in receiver noise floor and a huge improvement in
>both
>>transmit and receive phase noise.
>
>That is far too simplistic. Anyone's personal definition of "the
>better synthesizer" will depend on what range of frequency offsets
>is more important for their particular type of operating.
>
>For HF CW in particular, phase noise at small frequency offsets is
>of paramount importance and I wouldn't argue with Don's report of
"a
>huge improvement in both transmit and receive phase noise" - but
>*only* in that specific context. There are also several other
>advantages that are relevant to high-performance HF CW that could
>also justify upgrading to the KSYN3A.
>
>At close frequency offsets from the carrier, the KSYN3A does indeed
>offer a large reduction in phase noise compared with the KSYN3
>(which itself was already good). But at wider frequency offsets,
>that situation reverses. According to the ARRL review [1], at all
>offsets beyond about 6kHz, the older KSYN3 continues to have a
lower
>noise floor than the newer KSYN3A "upgrade".
>
>Performance at wider frequency offsets, 10-100kHz and beyond, is of
>much greater importance in VHF-UHF contesting. This due to a
>combination of factors. The strongest signals at VHF-UHF are often
>much stronger than on HF, due to the use of high-gain beam
antennas;
>and also the weakest signals are *always* much, much weaker due to
>the lower levels of natural background noise. These two features
>stretch the requirement for dynamic range on VHF-UHF far beyond
>those for which most HF transceivers are designed.
>
>Anyone transmitting wideband phase noise has a much greater risk of
>raising the noise floor of many other stations across the whole
>contesting segment of the VHF or UHF band. Running the numbers
>reveals that anyone aiming to be a Big Gun in VHF contests has a
>responsibility to keep their wideband transmitted noise floor below
>about -130dBc/Hz at frequency offsets of 50kHz and more [2]. This
>can be a major engineering challenge, and the performance of the
>transceiver is almost always the most important building block.
>
>The KSYN3A just about meets the -130dBc/Hz noise floor target at
>frequency offsets of 10kHz or more... but according to the ARRL
>review [1] the older KSYN3 achieves it much more comfortably, with
>10-15dB to spare.
>
>I have both a K3S and a very early-model K3. The K3S (with the
>KSYN3A, of course) is used for HF contesting where smaller
frequency
>offsets are important. Meanwhile the old K3 is now used as a
>transverter driver for 144MHz and above - and for that particular
>purpose there are very good reasons *not* to replace the original
>KSYN3.
>
>73 from Ian GM3SEK
>
>
>[1]
>http://ww