Re: [Elecraft] mic

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Am I the only one here that is thinking.Why the CHASTISEMENT?!!!Clay did a 
little bit of "Experimenting" and! He is quickly, and promptly reminded thathe 
has broken PROTOCOL!
Isn't Ham Radio about Experimenting? 

73 Milverton / W9MMS.

  From: Clay Autery 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 10:01 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] mic
   
Jim, we've already had this discussion.  

Man asked me what I was running, and I told him.  I like it.  It's a
wonderful mic.  It does the job. well!
I like nice things.  Not like I'm trying to use it on a DXpedition. 

I find pleasure in having, using, and BUILDING nice things.  It's not
about the money or doing the job If I wanted that, I'd still be
working a J-O-B.

As my Mamaw used to say, "Clay, that's why they make different flavors
of ice cream."

Have a great day!  

73,

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On 6/11/2017 1:06 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> On Sat,6/10/2017 8:02 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>> Customized large capsule condenser mic on a Heil PL2T boom using ONYX
>> Blackjack for power supply/control.
>
> Sorry, but you guys are WAY over the edge on this. As a retired
> recording engineer, I own a bunch of great large and small diaphragm
> mics, both condensers and dynamics, that put these mics to shame, but
> I wouldn't waste any of them in a ham station. I'm VERY happy with a
> Yamaha CM500 since W6XU turned me on to it around 2009, at a fraction
> of the cost. It's plugged straight into the rear panel mic jack of my
> K3s (plural, not the new K3S). Any decent electret will work as well,
> especially with the EQ built into a K3, K3S, KX3, KX2. Those large
> diaphragm mics are great for when I'm recording a symphony orchestra
> or a great jazz big band, but they are a waste in the ham shack.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] FW: Well Hell.... I just bricked my K3s

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>> One more reason to NOT use power-poles <<<
WELL! This post has now morphed into another Rendition of " Power Poles " 

(((73))) Milverton / W9MMS


  From: "Charlie T, K3ICH" 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, July 3, 2016 12:23 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] FW: Well Hell I just bricked my K3s
   

One more reason to NOT use power-poles.

Did I mention that I don't like them?
They are hard to use, over-rated, unreliable and not re-useable.

Charlie k3ICH



-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
lmarion
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 11:49 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Ken Arck 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell I just bricked my K3s

What a relief!!  I love my K3S, and hope every  ham has the pleasure of a 
high performance rig.
Another Elecraft superior moment,  it did not destroy itself and waited for
the oops moment to pass.

Another teaching moment: Check power supply is No 1 on every trouble shoot
chart.

Congratulations Ken and 73  Leroy AB7CE

-Original Message-
From: Ken Arck
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 9:21 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Well Hell I just bricked my K3s

Thanks to all who replied to my plea for help!

I did find the problem this morning and man, it was not what I expected. The
problem turned out to be that power was not getting to the radio. Well,,,
actually it WAS getting to the radio - to the Power Poles -  but no further.
I decided to poke around a bit and found that the solder connection on the
positive pole - it appeared to be cracked, perhaps from the repeated removed
of the power connector but it seems that the added current draw of the 100
watt PA did the connection in one way or another. I reflowed the connection
and the radio is once again happy.

What threw me (and why no power wasn't my first thought to check) was that
THUMP when the power button was tapped. I guess there was a enough charge in
some capacitor to do that. Ah well, live and learn

Again, thanks to all

Ken 

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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 (almost) converts me to a phone op

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>> thank to my KX2 which arrived amid lightning storms yesterday.<<<
Talk about a "SPECTACULAR" arrival ! 

With Dazzling announcement, the SKY herald it's ubiety!
Congrats John  on your KX2. 

73 / {72} Milverton / W9MMS.

  From: "a...@juno.com" 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2016 10:32 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] KX2 (almost) converts me to a phone op
   
I made my first SSB contact in 6 years this morning thank to my KX2 which 
arrived amid lightning storms yesterday. Check out the other guy's reaction to 
learning that I was only using 10 watts:

http://ae5x.blogspot.com/2016/05/kx2-arrives-or-cw-op-makes-phone-contact.html

When first learning of the KX2 last week, I had preconceived ideas of what I 
would like it to be in terms of ergonomics, capabilities and size. It has lived 
up to those expectations and then some. Over the decades, I've bought and sold 
a variety of rigs and there are very few that I've promised myself never to 
sell. The KX2 is the latest addition to that short list.

John AE5X
http://ae5x.blogspot.com/
 
 



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>> I don't mind having a KXPA100 delivering 100W under 12V power supply. <<<
Simple fix!    Apply ohms Law. 

(((73))) Milverton / W9MM. 


  From: Johnny Siu via Elecraft 
 To: Kevin Stover ; "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
 
 Sent: Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:46 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne
   
Hello Gentleman,
I met both Wayne and Eric in the past, they are thick skin and like questions 
right in front of their faces.  Some questions for them to address will give 
them more desire to do better.  In return, we are benefited.
Actually, I don't mind having a KXPA100 delivering 100W under 12V power supply. 
 Just leave Wayne free hands to Wayne to answer and I trust he is in a better 
position to do so.
73
Johnny VR2XMC

      寄件人︰ Kevin Stover 
 收件人︰ elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 傳送日期︰ 2016年05月23日 (週一) 8:20 AM
 主題︰ Re: [Elecraft] K3 and KX3 questions for Wayne
  
Further down in the same online spec page it states "Compact unit ideal 
for both desktop and mobile use". Note *mobile* use where the electrical 
system supplies more than 13.8V with the engine running.
I find no mention of the KXPA100 being developed as a "portable" amp. I 
have done searches of all Elecraft docs concerning the KXPA100 and find 
NO mention of the word *portable* anywhere. Nor do I find any mention of 
some nefarious board swap early in the products life.

Maybe the OP assumed because it has a carry strap that it is a portable 
amp. Well...My TS520 has a carry strap and a DC-DC converter. No way 
that can be classified as portable, it weighs 37lbs.

To be fair I have run it at field day but we had a 10KW diesel powered 
generator on a trailer. Power was NOT and issue.

On 5/22/2016 4:46 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> Michael,
>
> A careful reading of the online data sheet for the KXPA100 is 
> instructive here.
>
> http://www.elecraft.com/KXPA100/kxpa100.htm
>
> The first line says "100 watts at 13.8 V, 1.8 to 29.7 MHz and 80 watts 
> 50-54 MHz PEP CW/SSB/DATA; ± 1 dB"
>
> Two points: First, the amplifier is rated for 13.8V, NOT 12V. Second, 
> the rating is +/1 dB, which is +/- 20% power. Thus, 80W on the HF 
> bands is within spec for 13.8V at the amplifier terminals.
>
> The second line says "13.8 VDC powered; 20 A typical current drain (11 
> V with lower output. 15 V max)"
>
> This clearly means that the unit is designed and rated for 13.8VDC, 
> can be operated from 11V to 15VDC, and will have reduced output at 
> lower supply voltages.
>
> Obviously, Ohm's Law dictates that resistance of the DC supply 
> conductors will reduce power supply voltage at the amplifier 
> terminals, so while we may have 12V or 13.8V at our battery terminals, 
> the voltage at the end of 6-12 ft of cable will be a bit lower with a 
> 20A load. For example, the drop in 6 ft of #10 is 0.24v; for #12, it's 
> 0.38V, and for #14, it's 0.6V.
>
> As others have noted, the operating voltage in so-called 12V DC power 
> systems using lead-acid batteries is not 12V, but rather 13.8V. If you 
> buy an AC power supply for ham gear, it will likely leave the factory 
> with its voltage regulator set for 13.8V. Open the manual or the spec 
> sheet for nearly all ham gear and you will find the supply voltage 
> specified as 13.8VDC.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC

  
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Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Phil, I could not have said it any better! 

73 Milverton /W9MMS. 


  From: Phil Wheeler 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 3:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] A helpful review...
   
Jim,

It's good Icom has at least one of those. Elecraft 
has so many of us :-)

73, Phil W7OX

On 5/1/16 9:41 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
> It has been observed that the author has a 
> reputation as sort of a spokesman/apologist for 
> ICOM.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On Sun,5/1/2016 9:16 AM, Tom Fitzgerald via 
> Elecraft wrote:
>> This link may be of interest to many who have 
>> recently been debating a new SDR...it was 
>> recently made available to another group I 
>> belong to. I'm keeping my K3 but looking 
>> forward to purchasing one of these puppies too. 
>> I'm sold and the price point is perfect.
>>
>> http://www.ab4oj.com/icom/ic7300/7300notes.pdf

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT Options

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 , but as I tend to cuss out interfering
stations 
Joel, each time that you " Cuss " an offending station, you donate $10.00 to 
the collection plate on Sunday in Church.
No cheating now!   :-D
73 Milverton / W9MMS. 


  From: Joel Hallas 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2016 8:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 PTT Options
   
My favorite is a "knee switch." I use a Heil foot switch that is attached by
hook and loop fastener to the left side of the knee hole in my operating
desk at just the right height. Foot operation is also good if you can secure
the switch, but on my tile floor, I found I was always chasing the foot
switch around. 

The K3 VOX is second to none, IMO, but as I tend to cuss out interfering
stations, I'm afraid I'm not a good VOX candidate! 

Regards, Joel Hallas, W1ZR
Westport, CT

--

Message: 3
Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 13:34:50 +1000
From: Mike Walkington 
All,

At the risk of this request being lost in the euphoric response to the
K3 K-Pod. I'm wondering what options you might be using / prefer to
provide the PTT function for a K3S connected headset. I know options
including (1) VOX, (2) PTT button on an alternative plugged in microphone,
(3) PTT pickle switch, (4) PTT foot switch. What about your preference for
enabling several (ie pickle and foot switch) of these in parallel

Mike VK1OO

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Re: [Elecraft] Fan question on K3

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>> buster don't need to cool off  <<<
Quit worrying  WORRIsum!  
Buster was made by Elecraft!!!
Milverton / W9MMS. 




  From: Ronnie Hull 
 To: 
Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
 Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 2:37 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Fan question on K3
   
First, I'm having no trouble with my K3 ( which was delivered to me a week 
before they announced the S grrr).
I have NEVER felt or heard the fans running! My K3 ( nick named Buster ) is 
warm to the touch, never HOT, but still even in a 48 hour contest I've never 
been aware of them running!
Either buster don't need to cool off or something is wrong?
Anyone have an opinion on this?

W5sum Ronnie


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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Mobile operation "bible"

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>> When I still ran HF mobile, I found that a rig with an 
auto-tuner was a big help in extending the useful bandwidth of an 
antenna.<
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 12:09 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Mobile operation "bible"
   
On Thu,3/31/2016 2:13 PM, Mel Farrer via Elecraft wrote:
> While I never tune while driving, I got rid of the autotuners for the HI-Q 
> 5-160 antenna and installed a switch to allow me to transfer the antenna to a 
> FG-01 analyzer.

Short loaded antennas are, by their nature, pretty narrow band for 
tuning. When I still ran HF mobile, I found that a rig with an 
auto-tuner was a big help in extending the useful bandwidth of an 
antenna. If, for example, the antenna was resonant on 7075, a tuner 
might match it to the rig from 7000 to 7150 or even higher, whereas 
without the tuner I'd be limited to about half that.

Bearing in mind that in a mobile installation, coax is too short to 
introduce enough loss to matter, so it's merely a matter of making the 
rig's output stage happy (and running at full output).

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Amp or tuner / Chicken or Egg

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Jim! How does your answer relates to the " Original Poster's " Question???!
73 Milverton / W9MMS



  From: James Bennett 
 To: Elecraft Reflector Reflector  
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp or tuner / Chicken or Egg
   
"Don't be lazy, fix your antennas. If they aren't broken, then build
resonate antennas.  They just work the best.”

Well, not everyone has the luxury of enough real estate for a bunch of resonant 
antennas. When one wants to be able to operate multiple HF bands, a multi-band 
antenna (like a doublet), with tuner, works quite well. I, for one, would love 
to have several towers with resonant yagis, quads, etc. But living on a 
standard city lot with CCR/HOA restrictions pretty much sets a limit on what 
sort of antenna(s) can be erected. I use an 88 foot long doublet (skinny wire, 
stealthily hung in the trees) fed with home brew 600 ohm ladder line. It works 
great and I can operate on 60 - 6 meters with it. Without a tuner, that would 
not be possible.

JIm / W6JHB
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Re: [Elecraft] Amp or tuner / Chicken or Egg

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Not even 10 post yet, and the subject has already morphed into something 
else.The OP asked which of the two should he install first.How did this become 
X length of coax, or having a Resonant antenna?OR! Being Lazy?
73 Milverton / W9MMS. 
 


  From: Michael Walker 
 To: "Elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 4:08 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Amp or tuner / Chicken or Egg
   
As a wise ham told me.  What do you need a tuner for?

Don't be lazy, fix your antennas. If they aren't broken, then build
resonate antennas.  They just work the best.

Mike va3mw


On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Gerald Manthey  wrote:

> Why is 10' to 15' of coax  what you would want if using a tuner in the
> shack? I know about loses in really long runs, but why 10 to 15 feet?
> Thanks asking to learn not criticizing.
> Gerald
>
> > On Feb 17, 2016, at 3:31 PM, Jim Rodenkirch 
> wrote:
> >
> > Gary - depends on your antenna and how you feed it.
> >
> > If you intend to feed a multi-band antenna with open wire line, you'll
> need
> > some sort of tuner at the point where you transition from open wire to
> coax:
> >
> >  - if you plan on doing that out near the base of your antenna (the most
> > efficient spot) then save your
> >    money and purchase an auto tuner, e.g., an LDG Z11 ProII, and place
> it
> > at the point where the open
> >    wire line transitions to coaxial feed.
> >  - if you plan on doing that inside the shack and can keep the coaxial
> run
> > short, the internal auto tuner
> >    would work, albeit you could employ an LDG Z11 ProII there as well.
> >
> > If you plan on feeding any multi band antenna with coax of a length
> longer
> > than 10' to 15' an auto tuner inside the shack isn't worth much -- place
> an
> > LDG Z11 ProII style auto tuner at the base of the antenna, 'tween the
> > coaxial fee line and the antenna feed point and call it a day.
> >
> > If you plan on taking the K3S on portable tripsits auto tuner wud be
> 'da
> > way to go, as long as you keep coaxial runs 'tween the K3S and the
> antenna
> > feed point short"short" means < 10' to 15' or so.
> >
> > 72 de Jim R. K9JWV
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Amp-or-tuner-Chicken-or-Egg-tp7614243p7614247.html
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Re: [Elecraft] any ideals who might have these?

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Gerald, would this be what you are looking for?
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73 Milverton / W9MMS.
  From: KC6CNN 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 11:10 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] any ideals who might have these?
   
I am looking for a cap of some sort that will screw on the microphone
connector on my K3 and my K2. 
I just want some type of cap that will protect it from dust. 
I saw a youtube video of a guy in the UK that had some type of a cap screwed
on his and it looked nice. 
Any ideals of where they got those or who can make them?
Thanks
Gerald - KC6CNN




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KC6CNN - Gerald
K1 # 0014
K2 # 5486
K3 # 6294
KX3 # 757
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Re: [Elecraft] Advice on First HF Antenna

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Craig, my best advise, ARRL Antenna Book. 
There are way too many variables , and when it comes to Antenna, the only 
high performance Antenna there is, is measured in dbi. 
Go back through the archives here on the forum and you'll find many of 
educating 
discussion of different antenna subject. 

Best of luck, and WELCOME to Ham Radio and Elecraft.
73 Milverton / W9MMS.

  From: CRAIG SCHROEDER 
 To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
 Sent: Monday, December 7, 2015 4:13 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Advice on First HF Antenna
   
I am pretty new ham and a brand new KX3/PX3 owner excited to try my hand at 
DX'ing!  If you were buying your first HF base antenna, primarily looking for 
performance on 20 and 40 meters, what would you recommend?  Also, what do you 
suggest as a high performance field antenna for QRP?

Thank you,

Craig
KD0TXL
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 DSP processor speed

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Sound like a case of  " My you know what is bigger than your you know what " 
Cause mine cost twice as much as yours! Nah nan nanna naw nah! 

(73) Milverton / W9MMS

  From: Chester Alderman 
 To: 'Robert Sands' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 4:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 DSP processor speed
   
Maybe because Elecraft does not want to produce a rig that sells for
$14,500?

Tom - W4BQF


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Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 4:32 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 DSP processor speed

I was informed by an ICOM 7851 owner that the ICOM has DSP processors are
10 times as fast as the K3 and therefore has noise reducing advantage. Not
that important to me but curious if this is meaningful and if there is
consideration of chasing this performance spec by Elecraft and if not Why
not?
Bob
K7VO
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Re: [Elecraft] Four Elecraft Digests in one day

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

May we ALL sit for a minute and ponder.How many of these posts Eric has to read 
on any given day? 

73 Milverton / W9MMS.

  From: David Gilbert 
 To: georgek...@aol.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 11:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Four Elecraft Digests in one day
   

Sure, it's easy ... just don't use the digests.  If you get all the 
messages individually it is trivial to scan through the message titles 
and delete the ones you don't want to see.  That allows you to set up 
manual filters, or in my case, I can literally manually cull the 60 or 
70 messages I get per day in about ten seconds.

I don't see why any of this is so difficult ...

Dave  AB7E


On 9/20/2015 5:33 AM, George via Elecraft wrote:
> Four Elecraft Digests in one day is more than I can swallow.  As I  attempt
> to wade through the messages, I find a lot of stuff that doesn't seem
> worthy of taking up everyone's time.  Microphones, seriously?
>  
> With this much message traffic, is there a better way?
>  
> 73, George, K5KG
>  
> George  Wagner, K5KG
> Sarasota, FL  34242
> 941-400-1960
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Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>> am I missing something obvious? <<< 
YES! The "K" Line !   :-D
73 Milverton / W9MMS.


  From: "Chuck Milam, N9KY" 
 To: bruce  
 Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2015 9:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ham Shack Arrangements - just a little OT
   
I've really enjoyed the conversation about shack and desktop setups, as I'm
about to get into the garage, get behind the saw, and build a desktop
equipment shelf.

I've been talked out of building vertical supports, thanks to this
list.  So now I'm trying to future-proof my design. Eventually, I'd hope to
have a complete K-Line. So, I'm thinking I'd just add up the front panel
widths of all the K-Line components and perhaps add an inch or two. Does
this sound reasonable or am I missing something obvious?




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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Digital Modea

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Ron, I don't have a KX3, but from what I can recall, everyone who has ran that" 
Temp Compensation deal " has been very satisfied and said that it helps . 
Maybe someone who has done the compensation could comment .
73) Milverton. /W9MMS.
  From: KM4VX 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 and Digital Modea
   
Lyle: Thank you. My KX3 was purchased last week so I am confident it has the
new heat sink. I have adjusted WSPR to 3 watts and it works. Since the radio
does warm up I am going to use a computer fan to aid the heat sink. I
believe Elecraft should have upgraded to a better heat sink. I do not place
faith in the after-market ones but it is what it is. 73. Ron



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Below 500 KHz RX Antenna

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Jim / Don, thanks you both for your input. Albeit brief, I now have food for 
thought and some bedtime reading to do on Beverage antennas .
73 Milverton / W9MMS.

  From: Jim Brown 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 7:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Below 500 KHz RX Antenna
   
I don't completely agree with that. I have a pair of 2-wire Beverages 
that are approximately one wavelength on 160M. I use them on the AM 
broadcast band and find them quite effective as RX antennas. They are 
not as directional on the low end of the band, but they still have SOME 
directivity, and with the DX Eng preamp, they are quite sensitive.

After installing my new synth boards in the radio with the KBPF and 
doing the mods, I tried listening down to 100 kHz. Around mid-day, I had 
good copy of a CW beacon about 125 miles away. These antennas are too 
short to be called Beverages at those low frequencies, but they do work 
well as RX antennas.

73, Jim K9YC



On Sat,7/18/2015 2:55 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Not practical for LF reception.
>
> While the beverage is an excellent and directional receive antenna, it 
> must be at least 1 wavelength long to be effective, longer is better. 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Below 500 KHz RX Antenna

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Joe / Don, my ignorance will jump to the forefront here.How would a Beverage 
perform in this situation?
73 Milverton / W9MMS. 


  From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 3:11 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Below 500 KHz RX Antenna
   


Actually, if you want cheap and effective look at the PA0RDT mini-whip
active antenna:
    http://dl1dbc.net/SAQ/Mwhip/Article_pa0rdt-Mini-Whip_English.pdf

The active antenna is relatively small and easy to build with no
particularly expensive or difficult to find parts.  Some builders
have even used MPF-102 and 2N3866 or 2N3904 transistors instead of
the U310 and 2N5109.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-07-18 3:08 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Phil,
>
> Cheapest and easiest and effective do not always go together - pick one
> or two of those properties.  Easiest would be a good active antenna,
> like the one available from Clifton Labs.
> Cheapest would be a multi-turn loop on a frame - search the web for
> homebrew designs. - it needs to be rotated, so that may make it a bit
> more complex, but it can have a narrow field of view which is good for
> eliminating noise.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/18/2015 2:52 PM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> What is the cheapest easiest although effective RX antenna for
>> listening to whatever below 500 KHz with a K3 and the new K3SYNA board?
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Jim, are you not contradicting yourself? 
>>> " and there 
ain't no such thing as a "ground loop." <<< 

>> What there IS is a difference in 
potential between the chassis of one device and the other. << 
Isn't your stated wording almost the exact wording used by many, including 
Wikipedia as a " Ground Loop" 
I'm a bit confused. 

73 Milverton / W9MMS. 


  From: Jim Brown 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 1:38 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 switching supply
   
On Wed,6/17/2015 4:55 AM, Marc Veeneman wrote:
> When I connected station ground to the power supply that went away, I think 
> it was a ground loop.

Wrong word, correct solution.  The correct word is "bonding," and there 
ain't no such thing as a "ground loop." What there IS is a difference in 
potential between the chassis of one device and the other. When you bond 
chassis to chassis, you reduce that difference to a small value.

>  With these changes I now have no RFI from either one.

Proper station bonding is quite important, both for safety and to 
minimize noise. But a connection to EARTH, while important for lightning 
protection, is not part of a solution for hum, buzz, or RFI.

http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Quote " I am the proud new owner of a new K3. I am also the proud new owner of 
an SPE Expert 1.3K-FA solid state amp " end of Quote! 
Please  NOTE " New Owner "  not " The Owner of a NEW " The Op was very CLEAR. 
JUDGEMENT was passed ! 
I rest my case. 

73 Milverton / W9MMS

  From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 7:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp
   

 > IF! If the Amp was not bought from a local (USA) Commercial vendor,
 > no harm was done.

The op indicated he purchased the amplifier from (one of) the US
distributors for SPE and that others who had purchased amplifiers
from SPE through their US distribution channels reported the same
high gain.

Those amplifiers are *not legal for sale in the USA* - they do not
meet the terms of their type acceptance.  The rules also state that
*nobody* is permitted to modify amplifiers *commercially* (e.g., a
distributor for SPE) so that they are not compliant with the type
acceptance.  An individual amateur may make or modify *for his own*
*use*, at most, *one* of a given model amplifier in any year.

When it comes to playing by the rules, there is no "Joe being Joe"
so back off.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-04-03 7:56 PM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:
> WHY is everyone getting their panties in a wad?!!
> Joe was just being Joe.
> His reply had nothing to do with the OP original question.
>
> BTW. ... The rule states " not to be Sold Commercially "
>
> IF! If the Amp was not bought from a local (USA) Commercial vendor, no harm 
> was done.
> He could have obtain it from another Lic Operator. There is no Rule stating 
> he cannot have an SPE Expert 1.3K - FA Amp in his possession.
> LIGHTEN up, this is a Hobby.
>
>
> 73 Milverton / W9MMS.
>
>
>
>        From: Phil Kane 
>  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>  Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 5:56 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp
>
> On 4/3/2015 3:01 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote:
>
>> Of course I'm just bound to German law which does not contain any
>> "stupid" (pardon me, but it is!) amplification limits, just the maximum
>> allowed power. How we generate it is up to us radio amateurs overhere.
>
> It's not "stupid" when you become aware of the history.  At one time
> there were no amplification limits.  The problem wasn't with the amateur
> community.  The problem was with the renegade CB community that was
> using the available high-gain amplifiers improperly and in violation of
> US law and with the manufacturers who were catering to them.  The
> problems that were created became an enforcement nightmare consuming too
> much of the available enforcement resources.  There had to be some
> technical limits that we could use as an enforcement benchmark on the
> manufacturing level before the devices got into the wrong hands.  I
> don't know if the same problems existed in the European ham communities
> but it was overwhelming here.
>
> Disclaimer -  I spent three decades on the FCC enforcement staff
> directing, inter alia, local CB enforcement including locating, shutting
> down, seizing, and forfeiting illegal CB equipment and assessing
> monetary forfeiture penalties to the operators, manufacturers, and
> dealer.  I know that field quite well.
>
> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> Elecraft K2/100  s/n 5402
>
>  From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

WHY is everyone getting their panties in a wad?!!
Joe was just being Joe. 
His reply had nothing to do with the OP original question. 

BTW. ... The rule states " not to be Sold Commercially " 

IF! If the Amp was not bought from a local (USA) Commercial vendor, no harm was 
done. 
He could have obtain it from another Lic Operator. There is no Rule stating he 
cannot have an SPE Expert 1.3K - FA Amp in his possession.
LIGHTEN up, this is a Hobby.


73 Milverton / W9MMS.



  From: Phil Kane 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Friday, April 3, 2015 5:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Question K3 ALC w/SPE Expert 1.3K-FA amp
   
On 4/3/2015 3:01 PM, Oliver Dröse wrote:

> Of course I'm just bound to German law which does not contain any
> "stupid" (pardon me, but it is!) amplification limits, just the maximum
> allowed power. How we generate it is up to us radio amateurs overhere.

It's not "stupid" when you become aware of the history.  At one time
there were no amplification limits.  The problem wasn't with the amateur
community.  The problem was with the renegade CB community that was
using the available high-gain amplifiers improperly and in violation of
US law and with the manufacturers who were catering to them.  The
problems that were created became an enforcement nightmare consuming too
much of the available enforcement resources.  There had to be some
technical limits that we could use as an enforcement benchmark on the
manufacturing level before the devices got into the wrong hands.  I
don't know if the same problems existed in the European ham communities
but it was overwhelming here.

Disclaimer -  I spent three decades on the FCC enforcement staff
directing, inter alia, local CB enforcement including locating, shutting
down, seizing, and forfeiting illegal CB equipment and assessing
monetary forfeiture penalties to the operators, manufacturers, and
dealer.  I know that field quite well.

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100  s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon


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Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon?

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

I'm 100% in agreement with you Gary. 
Announce a Mobile Radio ( Elecraft KXM3 ) and I'll be the first one 
standing on the Street Corner robbing the proverbial " Lil Ole Lady " 

73))) Milverton / W9MMS. 

  From: Gary Gregory 
 To: Milverton M. Swire  
Cc: Fred Serota ; Elecraft List  
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 7:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon?
   
Be nice to hear of a KM3Mobile transceiver maybe with HF/6/VHF/UHF 
capsbility.Anyone serious about a mobile setup would much prefer a dedicated 
transceiver over trying to use a kx3 which has some major obstacles when 
installing it for mobile use.The k3 is a bit to large in many instances and the 
kx3 has its own unique issues needing to be addressed for safety as well as 
neatness of the installation.Just sayin.73Gary
Vk1ZZ
K3, KPA500-FT, KAT500-FTOn 31/03/2015 9:04 AM, "Milverton M. Swire via 
Elecraft"  wrote:

Yeah! When the Cows come home to roost!

73 Milverton / W9MMS.
      From: Fred Serota 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:14 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon?

Is there a K4 or 1500 watt amplifier on the horizon?

Fred, K3BHX
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Re: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon?

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Yeah! When the Cows come home to roost!

73 Milverton / W9MMS.
  From: Fred Serota 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 3:14 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Is there a K4 on the horizon?
   
Is there a K4 or 1500 watt amplifier on the horizon?

Fred, K3BHX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power supply fuses

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

John, out of curiosity.What size wire you are using, and how long is the wire 
between the Radio and the Battery? 

PS:  Contrary to what some believe, the FUSE in a power cable is not there to 
protect the Radio. 
 But there to protect the " Power Cable " from starting a fire. 

73 Milverton / W9MMS

  From: J 
 To: "'John, 9H5G'" ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 3:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 power supply fuses
   
You might closely examine the type of connections inside the holders.  Some
aftermarket automotive fuse holders have poorly crimped connections and
might pass a quick resistance check, but

73,
Jay
W6CJ

-Original Message-
From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John,
9H5G
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 13:12
To: 
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 power supply fuses

My K3 is powered from a car battery as I am always /P. I have installed
fast-blow fuses rated at 25 A in each of the supply lines.

Operating at 80W RTTY this afternoon, I noted that I was getting a low
voltage warning before I would have expected it. On examining the power
cable, I found the fuse holders to be warm to the touch. I expect that is
what was causing the voltage drop.

However, may I ask what specific (make , model) of fuse holders are you
using to protect your k3?

73
John, KK4OYJ


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Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Ray I agree with you! 
For those who insist on having an accurate working clock. Please also insist on 
it going " Tic Toc " 
Why are we sweating the small stuff? Times like these are when I truly believe 
that Wayne has us spoiled. 

73 Milverton / W9MMS. 

  From: Ray Sills 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2015 12:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Clock chip
   
Certainly, having an accurate clock inside the rig would be handy,  
especially for those who use manual logging.  Even though wristwatches  
with WWVB receivers can be had fairly inexpensively, I'm sure it would  
be more costly for Elecraft to add it to their rigs.  But, if it's  
available as an option, then those who want it, can buy it.

Me?  I just use the clock on my cell phone.  And, it's a smart phone,  
and I have a logging program I can use.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
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On Feb 15, 2015, at 1:24 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:

> Given the tiny size of "atomic clock" /  WWVB devices ... as in wrist
> watches ... it would seem one could be integrated into both the K3  
> and KX3
> and make the clock actually usable.
>
> 73
>
> Ken - K0PP
> On Feb 15, 2015 11:17 AM, "Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT" <
> k...@coldrockshotbrooms.com> wrote:
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>> In which radio?
>>
>> On 2/15/2015 9:52 AM, Jim Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Elecraft, Please give us a replacement clock chip that will keep  
>>> time.  An
>>> adjust method for what we have?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks, Jim KG0KP
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Re: [Elecraft] KSYN3A

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Doug, did you factor into your calculation the cost of protective packaging to 
protect the delicate board from damage while in transit? 
Just a thought. 

73 Milverton 

So much Trouble in the World! :- (  Bob Marley.

> On Feb 13, 2015, at 20:28, Doug Person via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's just one of those things that really annoy me.  I ordered the KSYN3A.  
> Shipping via UPS was calculated as $20.00+ for a package weighting .8 pounds. 
>  When I run the same locations and service through UPS.com I get $8.38.  
> That's a of markup on the shipping. Just sayin
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Advantage of KBPF3 in K3?

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>> A KBPF3 can be added to the main receiver, or the sub receiver, or both. <<<
What would be the advantage of adding KBPF3 to both the Main and the Sub? 

73 Milverton / W9MMS

  From: Wayne Burdick 
 To: Jeff Cathrow  
Cc: Elecraft Digest  
 Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Advantage of KBPF3 in K3?
   
> if one already has an AM filter in one of the K3's slots what does one need a 
> KBPF3 for (in terms of general coverage SWLing)?
> 
> Does it allow band selection of the popular SWBC bands in addition to the ham 
> bands?


Hi Jeff,

The AM crystal filter is for close-in selectivity (6 kHz) in the I.F. This 
filter can be used in AM and SSB modes whether in or out of a ham band.

The KBPF3 is at a different point in the receive chain: at the front end. It 
provides band-pass filters several MHz wide to allow copy of SWL ranges between 
the ham bands. 

Without a KBPF3, there are a number of places between ham bands where 
sensitivity would roll off up to 20 dB or so. This is because the K3's normal 
band-pass filters are very narrow, covering just the ham bands themselves. This 
is a very good thing from a receive performance standpoint; it removes strong 
signals that are well out of each ham band that could otherwise cause spurious 
or image responses. Unlike the K3, most receivers have really wide band-pass 
filters, leaving them susceptible to such interference in the ham bands. 

By adding a KBPF3, you'll be able to tune virtually the entire range from 0.5 
to 30 MHz (plus 6 meters) with your K3 without significant loss of sensitivity. 
The K3 automatically selects the KBPF3 filters when you tune a certain distance 
outside a given ham band. This is how we provide MARS coverage (when enabled). 

I said "virtually" the entire range because there is one gap: right around the 
first I.F. (8.215 MHz). In the vicinity of this gap, sensitivity will be quite 
a bit lower because the K3 has multiple traps at this frequency designed to 
ensure excellent first-I.F. rejection. Also, the range from 0.5 to 1.5 MHz is 
gradually attenuated as you go lower in frequency because of a high-pass filter 
that protects the PIN diodes used in the T/R switch. To get around this, you 
can bring the signal into the RX ANT jack on the KXV3 option. You might do this 
is you were doing low-band (AM broadcast) DXing.

A KBPF3 can be added to the main receiver, or the sub receiver, or both.

73,
Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 We want people to have more successful projects, avoiding well-known dead 
 ends.  
Just imagine Marconi considering his project a deadend? 
I'm sorry Walter, I have to disagree with you. 
Lets fast forward to the year 2005.

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Isn't Elmering about Nuturing?
73 Milverton / W9MMS

  From: Walter Underwood 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 3:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project
   
I’m confused. “Misguided” means that someone is headed in a wrong direction. 
Sharing expertise to help someone out shouldn’t require an apology. Should I 
apologize for being an Elmer? Should I let people use poor engineering 
practices to avoid hurting anyone’s feelings?

We want people to have more successful projects, avoiding well-known dead ends.

wunder
K6WRU
CM87wj
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On Jan 24, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft 
 wrote:

> Gary on Behalf of the Board I will extend an apology to you, some here take 
> the Hobby far to serious.
> 
> I personally enjoy it when someone tries something and shares it and we all 
> learn from it.
> I've been a Ham for a lot of years and I've seen a lot of things tried that 
> you would think would never work but did.Though my favorite was when I flew 
> RC aircraft and we had a Guy who against all convention used One Bladed Props.
> 
>    From: Gary - NC3Z 
> To: Harry Yingst  
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2015 2:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My KX3 desk microphone project
> 
> Nice post Harry. And did you notice still no technical backup?
> 
> Gary Mitchelson
> NC3Z Davidsonville, MD FM18
> NC3Z/4 Pamlico County, NC FM15
> www.mitchelson.org
> 
> 
> 
> On 1/24/2015 2:32 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> I want to point out one thing about all of this "It's AMATEUR Radio".
>> Last week another list member was hammered on for finding a Bug that even I 
>> could replicate here.
>> (Strangely I do not recall anyone making a public apology to that man).
>> 
>> So the guy here made a mic and it worked for him and he wanted to share his 
>> PROJECT.(Yea I made that same mistake when I found better quality and 
>> quieter fans for my K3).
>> Maybe someone could have say Hey that's cool but in my Professional 
>> experience we found that X.
>> 
>> 
>> PS: I work on stuff that is Real Life and Death when it goes down and 
>> AMATEUR radio is far from that.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] 8 or5 Pole cw filters

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 >>> " EXPECTS TO USE HAM RADIO TO BAIL HIS/HER BUT OUT IS A FOOL." <<<
  Amazing! 

73 Milverton / W9MMS


  From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] 8 or5 Pole cw filters
   

 > Ham Radio is not only about Contesting!

Neither is ham radio about bunch of "Nets" that only serve as claims
to frequencies in direct contravention to the license terms of those
who make them.

THERE ARE MARITIME DISTRESS FREQUENCIES FOR THOSE ACTIVITIES!  ANYONE
WHO GOES ON THE WATER WITHOUT PROPER EQUIPMENT AND EXPECTS TO USE HAM
RADIO TO BAIL HIS/HER BUT OUT IS A FOOL.

That the Maritime Service Net has bailed out fools who were too cheap
to purchase/install proper safety equipment only proves that the nets
are populated by equal numbers of fools intent on enabling dangerous
and foolish behavior.

73,

  ... Joe, W4TV


On 2015-01-21 6:56 AM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:
> I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS!
>  > The contesters I know are up to here with "nets" comprised of operators
>  > with ancient and el cheapo radios defending the frequencies they "own,"
>  > justifying their "ownership" by calling them traffic nets, or "maritime
>  > nets" but almost never passing traffic and never checking in anyone on a
>  > boat, and rarely doing much more than checking in. Now, there's nothing
>  > wrong with any of that, but it gives those operators no more right to
>  > the frequency they have selected than the contester who hears an empty
>  > frequency, asks QRL?, hears nothing, and calls CQ.ANCIENT AND EL CHEAPO - 
>Reeks with Condescension.
> There are documented instances where the Maritime Net has come to the 
> assistance of distressedboaters on the high sea.
> Copied from the previous post.
>  >  Sadly, when a major contest comes around i am forced to hide on the WARC 
>bands.
>    > If not "open" then i find something else to do.  > I have all 8 pole 
>filters but they dont help when a rude station blasts away less tha 1kc 
>up/down from me running crap audio, an amp            > getting its ring 
>flogged and a rig with all the knobs slammed to the right.> Oh, and we cop it 
>from EU and the US.Geography is irrevelant it seems..> No point in asking 
>either.>  It is what it is i guess.  > 73  > Gary
>  > Vk1ZZ
> Ham Radio is not only about Contesting!
>
>
> 73 Milverton.
>
>
>
>      From: Jim Brown 
>  To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net" 
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:57 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] 8 or5 Pole cw filters
>
> On Tue,1/20/2015 11:34 PM, tnny...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> The level of Snobbery here has crested the previous water mark.
>
> Not snobbery at all. I'm simply trying to save people money by advising
> them not to buy stuff they don't need. Someone who wants to operate on a
> crowded band needs narrow filters. it sounds like you and your friends do.
>
> The contesters I know are up to here with "nets" comprised of operators
> with ancient and el cheapo radios defending the frequencies they "own,"
> justifying their "ownership" by calling them traffic nets, or "maritime
> nets" but almost never passing traffic and never checking in anyone on a
> boat, and rarely doing much more than checking in. Now, there's nothing
> wrong with any of that, but it gives those operators no more right to
> the frequency they have selected than the contester who hears an empty
> frequency, asks QRL?, hears nothing, and calls CQ.
>
> I take pride in a very clean and narrow signal. My K3 with power amp has
> a -40 dB SSB bandwidth less than 3.5 kHz. If you want to operate next to
> me, you need to bring a good radio to the party. And I'm not going to
> QSY because you don't. And If I've established a run frequency and
> you've decided it's time for your "net," you can look for an empty
> frequency, just like I had to.
>
>
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] 8 or5 Pole cw filters

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS!
 > The contesters I know are up to here with "nets" comprised of operators 
 > with ancient and el cheapo radios defending the frequencies they "own," 
 > justifying their "ownership" by calling them traffic nets, or "maritime 
 > nets" but almost never passing traffic and never checking in anyone on a 
 > boat, and rarely doing much more than checking in. Now, there's nothing 
 > wrong with any of that, but it gives those operators no more right to 
 > the frequency they have selected than the contester who hears an empty 
 > frequency, asks QRL?, hears nothing, and calls CQ.ANCIENT AND EL CHEAPO - 
Reeks with Condescension.
There are documented instances where the Maritime Net has come to the 
assistance of distressedboaters on the high sea. 
Copied from the previous post. 
 >  Sadly, when a major contest comes around i am forced to hide on the WARC 
bands.
  > If not "open" then i find something else to do.   > I have all 8 pole 
filters but they dont help when a rude station blasts away less tha 1kc up/down 
from me running crap audio, an amp        > getting its ring flogged and a 
rig with all the knobs slammed to the right.> Oh, and we cop it from EU and the 
US.Geography is irrevelant it seems..> No point in asking either.>  It 
is what it is i guess.  > 73  > Gary
 > Vk1ZZ
Ham Radio is not only about Contesting! 


73 Milverton. 
 
 

 From: Jim Brown 
 To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 2:57 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] 8 or5 Pole cw filters
   
On Tue,1/20/2015 11:34 PM, tnny...@yahoo.com wrote:
> The level of Snobbery here has crested the previous water mark.

Not snobbery at all. I'm simply trying to save people money by advising 
them not to buy stuff they don't need. Someone who wants to operate on a 
crowded band needs narrow filters. it sounds like you and your friends do.

The contesters I know are up to here with "nets" comprised of operators 
with ancient and el cheapo radios defending the frequencies they "own," 
justifying their "ownership" by calling them traffic nets, or "maritime 
nets" but almost never passing traffic and never checking in anyone on a 
boat, and rarely doing much more than checking in. Now, there's nothing 
wrong with any of that, but it gives those operators no more right to 
the frequency they have selected than the contester who hears an empty 
frequency, asks QRL?, hears nothing, and calls CQ.

I take pride in a very clean and narrow signal. My K3 with power amp has 
a -40 dB SSB bandwidth less than 3.5 kHz. If you want to operate next to 
me, you need to bring a good radio to the party. And I'm not going to 
QSY because you don't. And If I've established a run frequency and 
you've decided it's time for your "net," you can look for an empty 
frequency, just like I had to.



73, Jim K9YC


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Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] 8 or5 Pole cw filters

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

> I'm a contester, < >> so I have tight 8-pole filters.<< >>> I've often 
> advised those who are not contesters to go with no additional 
roofing filters and add only on the air experience has taught them that 
they need. <<< 
Jim, I really hate to burst your bubble, you being a CONTESTER and all.However! 
On any given contest weekend, the Non Contester are the ones who really need 
the"Tight Filters" because some inconsiderate holier than god contester will 
start calling CQ 1500 hz next to 
an existing QSO. (14.300) catches HELL during contest weekend. 
I'm really glad that you are a Contester, but I get the impression from your 
audacious statementthat if one is not among the coveted contesters then they 
would not know the need of such sophisticatedgadgetry.

> K2AV and I are both contesters (and engineers), and we have 
independently arrived at the same point. < 

The level of Snobbery here has crested the previous water mark.
I guess Ham Radio is only for CONTESTERS. 
Just my $0.02 worth. 


73 Milverton / W9MMS

  From: Jim Brown 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 12:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [Bulk] 8 or5 Pole cw filters
   
On Tue,1/20/2015 9:23 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> If you are not into 'hot and heavy' contesting or DXing in a pileup 
> and/or diversity receive, you will find the 5 pole filters quite 
> adequate. 

I agree completely. I'm a contester, so I have tight 8-pole filters. 
I've often advised those who are not contesters to go with no additional 
roofing filters and add only on the air experience has taught them that 
they need. K2AV and I are both contesters (and engineers), and we have 
independently arrived at the same point.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keyer to use with Tascam interface

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>> every time the XYL walks through the shack when 
I'm doing a SSB contest with a load of laundry she trips the VOX when 
the door slams <<< 

Jim the best solution is for you to be the " Perfect Gentleman " and open the 
door for 
the wife walks through the shack with a load of laundry. :-D < big 
grin> 

73 Milverton.

  From: Jim Brown 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keyer to use with Tascam interface
   
On Tue,1/20/2015 8:48 AM, Carl Clawson wrote:
> There's one good reason that I know of. The VOX on/off setting is shared by
> AFSK, DATA A, and SSB. Having VOX left unintentionally active on SSB is
> very bad -- it leads to amp faults and unintended transmissions

Can't argue with that -- every time the XYL walks through the shack when 
I'm doing a SSB contest with a load of laundry she trips the VOX when 
the door slams. It's one of those things I've learned to live with. :)

73, Jim K9YC




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Re: [Elecraft] K3 cleanest signal possible

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

> If the K3 were supplied with a stock microphone <
> make a poor choice and then not bother to
compensate with the equaliser <

>> I probably make fewer than a dozen SSB QSOs in a year, yet when I do I 
>> amalmost always complimented on the audio. <<
>> > > For the record, using the Heil headset from Elecraft, I continue to get
> > unsolicited "great audio" comments in essentially every SSB contest I
> enter.  << < <

It seems that there is a case of Apples and Oranges here.
The OP was more about Phase Noise that is emitted by the Radio. 

Here is Wayne's response to the OP. 
BTW, Jim's call should be K9YC as Wayne corrected later. 

( See W9YC's study of transmit phase noise and keying bandwidth of various 
transceivers:   http://audiosystemsgroup.com/TXNoise.pdf )
73 Milverton. / W9MMS 
 
 
 

 From: Stephen Prior 
 To: Elecraft  
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 3:41 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 cleanest signal possible
   
If the K3 were supplied with a stock microphone, rather than leaving it to
the purchaser to potentially make a poor choice and then not bother to
compensate with the equaliser, I believe we wouldn't be reading these
admittedly  isolated comments about K3s with "thin audio".  This has
recently come up again with the current dxpedition in Iran.

I probably make fewer than a dozen SSB QSOs in a year, yet when I do I am
almost always complimented on the audio.  I am using the MH2 microphone.

73 Stephen G4SJP

On 20 January 2015 at 00:24, Nate Bargmann  wrote:

> * On 2015 19 Jan 16:32 -0600, Fred Jensen wrote:
> > For the record, using the Heil headset from Elecraft, I continue to get
> > unsolicited "great audio" comments in essentially every SSB contest I
> enter.
> > NAQP last Sat was the last.  Never happened before the K3
>
> I have found the same with my K3/CM500 combination.  I never received
> compliments on my transmitted audio until I owned the K3.  Yet, on
> various forums the meme still exists that the K3 is a "poor SSB radio".
> I've seen this comment a bit less, especially since firmware 4.51
> improved the AGC noticeably.  Other than distortion when engaging the
> auto-notch, I am pleased enough that I am not contemplating replacing
> the K3.
>
> 73, Nate N0NB
>
> P.S. I claim that I have a face for radio and a voice for CW/digi modes!
>
> --
>
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> possible worlds.  The pessimist fears this is true."
>
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Audio Mixer

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>> They sell them cheaper <<<
Ray, do you know of anyone other than a Ham who likes things CHAP? 
 But if you plan to use something again  
and again, it pays to buy tools of quality. 
 " Mighty Fine Junk" should have been out of business a lng time ago.
> In the  audio world, <
But! we are not talking about the "Audio" world here.We are talking about " Ham 
Radio "  
And! Ham Radio and Quality Audio of the Audio world are oxymoron.
If you should take a survey, you would find that a great percentage of OP use 
Behringer Mixer, and 
they'll be the first to tell that they are not looking for a flat audio.
73 Milverton. 




  From: Ray Sills 
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 Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2015 4:00 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT Audio Mixer
   
I have to disagree with Bill. and agree with Jim, K9YC.  In the  
audio world, Behringer has out and out "stolen" the designs and types  
of products made by Mackie.  They sell them cheaper, and sometimes  
they work OK.  But they are pale copies of the real thing.  IMO, it's  
worth the modest extra expense to get better quality.

Yeah, sometimes I use "cheap" tools if the application is not  
critical, or only needed once.  But if you plan to use something again  
and again, it pays to buy tools of quality.

73 de Ray
K2ULR
KX3 #211

On Jan 13, 2015, at 8:46 AM, W2BLC wrote:

> The only name you need to know is Behringer - station speakers,  
> audio panels, etc. Bulletproof!
>
> Bill W2BLC - K-Line
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Re: [Elecraft] OT Audio Mixer

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Most OP who uses a mixer in their shack usually go with the Behringer.The model 
number escapes me at the moment, but Google can be your friend. 

73 Milverton. / W9MMS

  From: F5vjc 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:29 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] OT Audio Mixer
   
I'm looking for an audio mixer either to build or purchase, must RFI proof
for use in the shack .
I want to feed multiple receiver audio outputs to a common amplified
speaker system.

Also I'd like to use one microphone and paddle to feed multiple
transmitters.

I'm sure this has been done before, anyone any pointers.

73,  Deni - F5VJC
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft - Proposed New Years Resolution

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>> I would like to propose a New Years resolution <<<
Bill, did you kept your last year resolution? 
New years resolutions are even less worthy than a Politicians campaigns 
promises.
(((73))) Milverton. 

  From: Bill Wiehe via Elecraft 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Monday, January 5, 2015 11:22 AM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Elecraft - Proposed New Years Resolution
   
I would like to propose a New Years resolution to all my fellow Elecraft 
reflector users, that being that we all to try limit posted topics to Elecraft 
product related issues. While I  know we all appreciate the diversity of 
perspectives we have here and even the need at times to vent on certain 
matters; I think we should all try and stay focused on the reason the good 
folks a Elecraft set up this forum which I believe was to support the Elecraft 
product user community.  Just to clear, I am not proposing the elimination of 
all "off topic" comments. However, if you feel the need to engage members of 
this community in such discussion then I would propose you consider including 
your email address in your post and request folks respond to you directly.With 
that said, if you feel the need to reply to my proposal, my email address is 
listed below.Thanks and Happy New Year.W0BBI - billw0...@arrl.net. 
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA1000

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 Or some really good eggnog is being passed around ;) <<<
Hey Bryon, don't be selfish. Who is it that got the Really Good EGGNOG passing 
around?!!!
73 Milverton.

  From: Byron N6NUL 
 To: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft"  
Cc: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2014 12:02 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA1000
   
Or some really good eggnog is being passed around ;)

73, Byron N6NUL



> On Dec 24, 2014, at 09:25, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft  
> wrote:
> 
> Must be a slow news day!
> 
> Eric
> elecraft.com
> 
>> On 12/24/2014 9:14 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> I think a good hamfest Elecraft demo would be 8 KPA500s combined together 
>> with multiple (and some big) combiners/splitters.  Or, maybe 16 or 32 
>> KPA500s.
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Re: [Elecraft] Being cautious around Li-Ion Batteries

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

The more I read this, the more questions arise in my mind!
>> If I hadn't been wearing safety 
glasses, <<
Granted, some people wears Safety Glasses when working on their work bench.
>> I consider myself lucky in that I was wearing my welding jacket which 
protected my body very well. <<

A WELDING Jacket??!  Ok! You're a Welder. 

>> The furthest piece, embedded in ceiling, is at least 10 feet from the 
ignition point. << 

Quite a powerful Explosion. 
>> My facial hair has been burned 
and there are numerous particles embedded in my skin, walls and table. << 
How deep into your skin were the fragments embedded? 

Did you write this before or after your visit to the Emergency Room? 

Sorry, but I find this kinda hard to digest.
73 Milverton. / W9MMS





  From: Doug Person via Elecraft 
 To: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 5:38 PM
 Subject: [Elecraft] Being cautious around Li-Ion Batteries
   
Just a quick note to affirm the need for caution around Lithium-Ion 
battery packs.

Today I was charging a new 12 volt Li-Io battery pack.  Fist time being 
charged.  I was using a specialized automatic Li-Io charger. 
Nonetheless, the battery pack exploded with an incredible force, blowing 
items off my workbench within 2 feet of the explosion.  The burn area on 
my workbench exceeds 12 inches.  If I hadn't been wearing safety 
glasses, I'm sure my eyes would have been badly affected.  The sound 
level was at least equal to a 44 magnum. My facial hair has been burned 
and there are numerous particles embedded in my skin, walls and table.  
The furthest piece, embedded in ceiling, is at least 10 feet from the 
ignition point.  About 2 ounces of C4 would perform about the same.

I consider myself lucky in that I was wearing my welding jacket which 
protected my body very well.  I was only 18 inches from the pack when it 
exploded.

I never realized or expected such a thing to happen from a commercially 
produced battery pack.  I guess I will weld together a steel blast-proof 
box should I have nerve enough to ever use these battery packs again.

73, Doug -- K0DXV
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Ubdate

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 it reinforces why I'm happy I don't own a Ford. 
 My GM updates have been free (except the Nav GPS, an expensive 
 convenience). 
" The recall was free.  The firmware updates were 5 minutes of computer time 
and $125 EACH.  The problem with the trannie has TWO TSB's and is clearly 
Ford's fault.  I'm sure if they could have charged for the safety recall (their 
fault) it would have been."

Rick, GM's "NEGLIGENCE'S" has KILLED! 
This is a Documented Fact!
 ( an expensive convenience).    VERY EXPENSIVE!!!

Ooops!   
My mistake. The Cobalt is made by Ford.

73 Milverton.




  From: Rick Bates 
 To: W2BLC  
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
 Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 9:10 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Ubdate
   
Recently a friend took a Ford Escape in for a safety recall, trannie firmware 
update (to resolve an issue that will eventually destroy the trannie) and a 
Sync update (original 5 year old version that doesn't meet the stated ability). 
 

The recall was free.  The firmware updates were 5 minutes of computer time and 
$125 EACH.  The problem with the trannie has TWO TSB's and is clearly Ford's 
fault.  I'm sure if they could have charged for the safety recall (their fault) 
it would have been. 

Ford could learn about customer service from Elecraft and it reinforces why I'm 
happy I don't own a Ford.  My GM updates have been free (except the Nav GPS, an 
expensive convenience).

Elecraft has added new features as well as fine tuned earlier features 
resulting in an entire system that is simple to manage and easy to remote and 
plays well with other brands (SteppIR and more).  Not many companies manage 
that.  And all updates have been free, except when it requires additional 
hardware (like P3 SVGA).  No one else does that. 

Ford results: safety improved; longevity improved; usefulness improved.  $250 
later, 2.5 hours at their shop rate, done in a half hour (but the vehicle must 
be there at dawn, maybe done by dinner).  Good for Ford, not the consumer.  

Anyone at Elecraft want to take over Ford service?  ;-)

73,
Rick wa6nhc

Tiny iPhone 5 keypad, typos are inevitable

> On Dec 7, 2014, at 7:09 AM, W2BLC  wrote:
> 
> Sorry to disappoint David, but the majority of the updates actually involve 
> firmware/software updates - involving the "convenience" factors of the 
> vehicle. Hence, it is good example and stands.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 - unfinished product

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 I am continuously amazed by the amount of "stuff" people want to add to 
Elecraft products,  

AMEN! 

Unlike everyone else, I don't need much.Just be sure to add the " Kitchen Sink 
" 

(Tongue n Cheek )
73 Milverton / W9MMS. 

  From: Kevin Stover 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2014 9:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 - unfinished product
   
I am continuously amazed by the amount of "stuff" people want to add to 
Elecraft products, in this case the P3, that are done BETTER and CHEAPER 
by other things.

Want to monitor your output waveform...buy a used oscilloscope and spend 
$10 for the parts to build a sampler. Better yet buy one of the 
inexpensive  dual channel 100MHz Rigol O-scopes for less than $400 and 
you've got an output monitor AND an O-scope.

How about we just add an solid state drive and Intel i3 processor with 
appropriate motherboard with really good on board sound chip (oxymoron?) 
running Windows 10 to the P3 and you could replace your shack 
computer...kinda...sorta Of course the cost of all this convenience 
will triple or quadruple the price of the P3... Of course Elecraft would 
have to add a couple dozen personnel for the inevitable "help 
desk"...but it will have a real good "gee whiz" factor.

-- 
R. Kevin Stover
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: Contesting / DXing practices

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 It is really irritating to get stomped on by some jerk(s) running several 
 hundred watts to talk when they're less than 200 miles away, as happens 
 here in southern AZ. 
Did he had his mic gain turn way up, and his compression equally as high , so 
he could get more PUNCH?! 

73 Milverton /W9MMS

  From: "Thorpe, Jeffrey" 
 To: Elecraft Reflector  
 Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 8:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Contesting / DXing practices
   
The band plans work better when operators actually abide by "using only the 
power required to make contact." In fact, the band plans might much less 
important if operators would bother to follow the "power rule."
Friends and I, who do happen to live fairly close, can (and do) actually talk 
using .1-.2W (yes, those are decimal points) on 40m, NVIS. It is really 
irritating to get stomped on by some jerk(s) running several hundred watts to 
talk when they're less than 200 miles away, as happens here in southern AZ.

Jeff - kg7hdz



> On Dec 1, 2014, at 6:05 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would say to use the Bandplan of the country that you are licensed in 
> it is a simple matter of courtesy to be considerate of those who do not care 
> to contest 
> 
> 
>      From: brian 
> To: Harry Yingst  
> Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 4:45 PM
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: Contesting / DXing practices
> 
> Harry,
> 
> Which bandplan?  There are many.  EU bandplans are different from Asian 
> band plans for example.    There are also many groups/modes/nets etc who 
> plop themselves down anywhere and declare that frequency theirs.  Then 
> they bemoan interference?
> 
> If you really look at the band plans, it would take a superhuman to 
> avoid all the little niches.
> 
> Also what you see is a reflection of too little space available. RTTY 
> contests are a good example.  Do you really think it can be constrained 
> to be within 14080 and 14090?
> 
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
> 
>> On 12/1/2014 21:15 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> I would also like to add pay attention to the bandplan
>> Many are NOT contesting and it spoils there enjoyment when contesters 
>> encroach on them while they are operating.
>> Examples: CW or RTTy being run on top of the JT65 Guys or SSB Voice on top 
>> of the SSTV guys.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>        From: Ken G Kopp 
>>  To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>>  Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:01 PM
>>  Subject: [Elecraft] OT: Contesting / DXing practices
>>    
>> Jim is speaks the truth.
>> 
>> While the premise of beginning a transmission with "DE" ... or the called
>> station's call ... may be "correct", in practice it assures one first place
>> in the "lid" line.
>> 
>> 5NN is the only "cut" number that's acceptable to me, too.
>> 
>> In the contesting arena time is all-important!  Seconds saved count.  FD,
>> especially, brings out every lid-ism.  It's actually easy to have one ...
>> or more ... contest QSO's while waiting for a "please copy my number".  Add
>> another QSO in the log for "good luck in the contest" babble.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Ken Kopp - K0PP
>>> On Dec 1, 2014 11:30 AM, "Jim Brown"  wrote:
>>> 
 On Mon,12/1/2014 5:52 AM, d...@lightstream.net wrote:
 
 But PLEASE DO develop the habit of using the characters "DE" to preface
 the sending of your callsign, whether calling CQ or in exchange with
 another station.
>>> NO, NO, NO! (CAPS added for emphasis). When a contester (or DXpedition) is
>>> running (calling CQ), we EXPECT to hear YOUR callsign, and we start typing
>>> that call in the entry window. Lots of calls begin with D, so when someone
>>> sends DE, we must backspace. DON'T send his call first -- he knows his call
>>> -- only send yours. Same problem with typing. Further, sending the old CW
>>> elements like DE, K, KN, and QSL during a contest are time-wasters
>>> equivalent to "please copy" on SSB. Most good contesters use "TU" or "R"
>>> and end a QSO by sending "TU" followed by their callsign.
>>> 
>>> Another rule -- NEVER resend anything that the other station has copied
>>> correctly. If the other station sent your call correctly when he responded
>>> to you, don't send it again. Send it again ONLY if you think he got it
>>> wrong.
>>> 
>>> Count me among those who HATE cut numbers other than for 5NN.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Strange K3 & KPA500 Issues fixed with a longer coax cable?

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Jim, RFI is not the issue here.What is happening is a matter of " Inductance " 
By adjusting the length of the Jumper, the Impedance is adjusted accordingly. 
73 Milverton. 

  From: James kvochick 
 To: "N2TK, Tony"  
Cc: "elecraft@mailman.qth.net"  
 Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2014 7:19 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Strange K3 & KPA500 Issues fixed with a longer coax 
cable?
   
We tried all the normal "common mode" tricks, but the feedline length appeared 
to be the most effective.

Jim K8JK


Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 19, 2014, at 7:32 AM, N2TK, Tony  wrote:
> 
> I had a similar problem many years ago with an L-4B amp. 
> I wonder if adding ferrite to the coax would solve this problem?
> GL
> N2TK, Tony
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim
> Kvochick
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:16 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Cc: k...@att.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Strange K3 & KPA500 Issues fixed with a longer coax
> cable?
> 
> I've stumbled into a strange problem.
> 
> I have 4 friends with similar K3 stations to my own; K3 >>> KPA500 >>>
> KAT500.  The stations are powered with similar power sources.
> 
> One station sounds fine, works great.  The other 4 had strange issues that
> manifested themselves as audio distortion when running the amplifier.  After
> looking all over for RF and grounding issues, we swapped the coax cable from
> the K3 to the amplifier, with a longer cable (about 6 to 7 feet - largely
> because that was the only free cable we had handy).
> 
> Making the cable from the K3 to the amplifier longer eliminated the issue.
> putting the cable back brought the problem back.  Making a new short cable
> still left us with audio distortion.  The only thing that seemed to solve
> the issue in all 4 cases was making the K3 to amplifier cable longer. 
> 
> This got me to investigate my own station.  It turns out that the cable I
> used between the amplifier and the radio was about 6 feet long.  Swapping
> this cable for a shorter length brought about audio distortion symptoms.
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts about this?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Jim K8JK
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 on SSB Mobile

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Ted, the best reference material on going SSB Mobile can be found below.

KØBG.COM
  
 
KØBG.COM
A Web Site For Mobile Amateur Radio Operators  
View on www.k0bg.com Preview by Yahoo  
  
73  Milverton / W9MMS




On Thursday, October 30, 2014 10:26 PM, "Dauer, Edward"  
wrote:
 


After a half-century of CW only I am about, at last, to try SSB.  The rig is a 
KX3 operating from my car, into a Hustler mast with 15 and 20 meter resonators. 
 For the moment the power supply is the car's cigar lighter; and the headset is 
Elecraft's standard-issue Heil, which I own but have never used.  So, I am 
looking for suggestions and advice.

One specific question:  I do not have a 'scope or any other equipment with 
which to look at the transmitted waveform.  I expect to do some practical 
experimentation; but are there good starting points for the mic and audio 
settings, and whatever else, in order to get the most effective and cleanest 
signal?

Another:  Is SSB mobile on HF with 5 or 10 watts going to be practical, or will 
it just be frustrating? The plan - now that my life affords the time for it - 
is to put some rare counties in CO, NM, AZ and WY on the air.

Suggestions, ideas, comments, imperatives, opinions - all are most welcome.

Tnx,

Ted, KN1CBR
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Re: [Elecraft] PX3 Shipping status

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Shouldn't you be asking  Elecraft that question? 


73 Milverton. .



On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 7:15 AM, pkhjr via Elecraft 
 wrote:
 


According to the Elecraft shipping status if I order now it will ship in late
Oct...?  Thinking of ordering one but need a more exacting information
due to travels.

Tex
ka5y



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Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>> which can actually *lower* the total QRM 
level. <<< 


And! here all along, I thought " LESS Power, LESS QRM"!!! 


Oh well! 


73  MILVERTON /W9MMS



On Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:31 AM, "Dr. William J. Schmidt, II" 
 wrote:
 

>
>
>Have you ever listened to the interviews of the Indy car drivers after a
>race?  Do they say: "I wish I had a less powerful engine to make it a more
>challenging race."?
>
>I'm on the DX end a lot these days, and I always find myself stopping a
>pileup to ask if there are any 10 watt or less stations calling.  The
>response I get is usually three QRP stations responding (which I eventually
>work after 10 minutes of additional instruction to much louder stations)
>buried by 100's of QRO stations with massive antenna arrays.
>
>Tough to win!
>
>
>Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ/ PJ4HZ/ VP5HZ
>
>Owner - Operator
>Big Signal Ranch - NA-QRO Club
>Staunton, Illinois
>
>email:  b...@wjschmidt.com
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wes
>(N7WS)
>Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:05 AM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 power out - key down
>
>The problem with this is, if everyone else is as misguided, then they are 
>transmitting with ten watts too. So their signals are 10 to 20+ dB weaker
>than 
>with higher power, hence there are fewer stations to work, ie. less DX.
>
>Furthermore, with more power, faster modes of communicating are possible.
>More 
>stations can make QSOs in a given time, which can actually *lower* the total
>QRM 
>level.
>
>Of course, all of this is from a DXer's perspective.  If watching paint dry
>is 
>your thing then stick with QRP.
>
>Wes  N7WS
>
>
>
>
>On 7/19/2014 8:07 PM, Bill Turner wrote:
>> ORIGINAL MESSAGE:          (may be snipped)
>>
>> On 7/19/2014 5:44 PM, Gerald Manthey wrote:
>>>   and I work the world on 10 watts.
>>
>> REPLY:
>>
>> I encourage the Geralds of the world to continue with their ten watts.
>>
>> Makes DXing easier for the rest of us. :-)
>>
>> 73, Bill W6WRT
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Re: [Elecraft] RM-11708 proposal to FCC threatens CW and digital modes

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 No more 2 cents worth please.. 

Who said Ham Radio Operators are CHEAP?

;-)

73 Milverton / W9MMS. 



On Monday, June 23, 2014 6:57 PM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
 

>
>
>Good grief folks.
>
>No more 2 cents worth please...even I get it!
>
>End of thread...I hope..
>Gary
>
>
>On 24 June 2014 08:17,  wrote:
>
>>
>> > If this comes to fruition there will be a mass exodus of
>> > regular hams and this will affect not only Elecraft but all ham radio
>> manufacturers
>>
>> Which means it is off topic for this ELECRAFT related forum.  Take it to
>> some
>> wider forum and have at it.
>>
>> Gary
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Re: [Elecraft] Xmit Audio Problem

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 Still, when I am transmitting SSB, the output is barely indicating 10%
of (A) a HARD whistle pr (B) CW   


10% of Average, or Peak Envelope Power? 

Are you using  a PEP Watt meter? 


73 Milverton.



On Monday, May 26, 2014 1:44 PM, Bob KD7YZ  wrote:
 

>
>
>I suspect I need a different mike than the old heil-pro headset. But
>then, I better ask first.
>
>The symptoms are that is I don't appear have any punch. I use cmp and
>mic and get the ALC bars in the right places according to the manual.
>
>I have adjusted TXG up to 3.
>
>Still, when I am transmitting SSB, the output is barely indicating 10%
>of (A) a HARD whistle pr (B) CW
>
>And I have mic at 60 and cmp at 40.
>
>What is a "Great" desk mike for the K3? Anyway, I am tired of the boom
>mic so wanted a desk mic and this may be a good reason.
>
>thanks
>-- 
>
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Re: [Elecraft] FW: [cwops] merger of Alpha and Ten Tec

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Steve, you sure have been doing a lot of " Thinking"
You better be careful now!   :-) 



73 Milverton. 

On Monday, May 12, 2014 2:16 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
 
Steve,
>
>You are partly correct.
>Elecraft did prototype both an 800 watt amp and a 1500 watt amp long ago.
>They were both all solid state - no tubes involved.
>The 1500 watt version used two of the power bricks of the 800 watt unit.
>
>73,
>Don W3FPR
>
>
>On 5/12/2014 2:25 PM, Stephen Bloom wrote:
>> Hope it isn't bad etiquette to send this to two email lists
>>
>>  
>>
>> I've thought that ExpertAmps and Elecraft should consider some type of
>> working agreement.  I have a K3 and 2K-FA that play very well together .very
>> nice for QSK, though I did buy the amp with the after market vacuum relay),
>> pretty similar to the way the K3 and KPA500 do.  A long time ago Elecraft
>> protopyed a single tube KPA-1500 but I think that project died.  Frosty
>> K5LBU ..the American Distributor for SPE puts together a lodge safari type
>> operation in Africa every year (last year it was 3D2A, this year I think it
>> will be 7P7 or 7Q7) and they pair K3's and 1K-FAs and 2K-FAs.
>>
>>  
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Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>>> Hardly - most contesters are focused on keeping their audio "tight"
for maximum efficiency. <<<< 


I wonder which planet you're orbiting on a contest week end? !!

Joe, you just got a thing for ESSBer, and here comes Larry asking his question 

this morning, which presented the avenue you were seeking to get on your 
Podium. 

Well! 

If that's what put cream in your twinkie, go ahead and knock yourself out. 
Not everyone shares or endorse your opinion. 


ps. This is not an attack against you, just an observation.

 73 Milverton.

On Sunday, April 27, 2014 9:18 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett  wrote:
 
98 percent of contesters?  Exaggerate much?
>
>I am sure we can find examples of your infractions easily enough during 
>non contest periods.
>
>So many trolls.......
>
>Mike W0MU
>
>On 4/27/2014 7:39 PM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:
>>>>>>   willful
>> use of a bandwidth in excess of 2.8 KHz can *still* be considered a
>> violation in conjunction with other conditions - particularly
>> interference, splatter, distortion, IMD, etc. <<<<
>>
>> NOW!
>> You have just Describe 98% of those who proclaim their love of Contesting!
>>
>> [particularly!
>> interference, splatter, distortion, IMD, etc.]
>>
>> BTW.
>> Aggressive use of Compression (PUNCH)
>> Overly active ALC.
>> And! Last but not the least, chronic twisting of the mic gain knob
>> to the right is tantamount of the above mention.
>>
>> Maybe, we should just include the Contester in this tantivy as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 Milverton. / W9MMS
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:09 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  
>> wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> On the other hand, Title 47 which includes more than Part 97 regularly
>>> defines SSB as 2K80J3E (2.8 KHz bandwidth) and specifies a maximum
>>> modulating frequency of 2.8 KHz for various FM voice "communications"
>>> services.
>>>
>>> Given that standard, and the fact that RM-10740 was dismissed without
>>> modifying the rule that requires the use of minimum bandwidth, without
>>> modifying the rules against intentional interference, and without
>>> modifying the rule that requires "good engineering practice," willful
>>> use of a bandwidth in excess of 2.8 KHz can *still* be considered a
>>> violation in conjunction with other conditions - particularly
>>> interference, splatter, distortion, IMD, etc.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>>      ... Joe, W4TV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/27/2014 8:42 PM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:
>>>>>>>> This issue is not just about "...other hams having fun doing what they
>>>> want to do with their K3s", there really are some good engineering
>>>> reasons for not using ESSB below 100 MHz.  Joe has articulated a few.
>>>> Beyond the "...other hams having fun..." argument, is there really any
>>>> other reason to do ESSB? <<<<
>>>>
>>>> David, et al.
>>>>
>>>> The question of " Legality " and Engineering reasoning has been bantered 
>>>> around
>>>> on numerous different occasions.
>>>> There are many in their zeal to defend their ideals will make frivolous 
>>>> statements on
>>>> what should or should not be the accepted TBW.
>>>> Irrespective of what some of us may think, there are no set number on TBW 
>>>> for SSB.
>>>>
>>>> For those who are about to get their under wears in a wad, here are the 
>>>> FCC view on the
>>>> subject a define bandwidth on Phone.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nu9n.com/images/FCC-DA-04-3661A1-final.pdf
>>>>
>>>> There are many of us who often times forget that this is a HOBBY for 
>>>> Amateurs.
>>>>
>>>> 73 Milverton.
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

>>>>  willful
use of a bandwidth in excess of 2.8 KHz can *still* be considered a
violation in conjunction with other conditions - particularly
interference, splatter, distortion, IMD, etc. <<<< 

NOW! 
You have just Describe 98% of those who proclaim their love of Contesting! 

[particularly!
interference, splatter, distortion, IMD, etc.]

BTW. 
Aggressive use of Compression (PUNCH) 
Overly active ALC. 
And! Last but not the least, chronic twisting of the mic gain knob 
to the right is tantamount of the above mention.

Maybe, we should just include the Contester in this tantivy as well. 



73 Milverton. / W9MMS


On Sunday, April 27, 2014 8:09 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  wrote:
 

>On the other hand, Title 47 which includes more than Part 97 regularly
>defines SSB as 2K80J3E (2.8 KHz bandwidth) and specifies a maximum
>modulating frequency of 2.8 KHz for various FM voice "communications"
>services.
>
>Given that standard, and the fact that RM-10740 was dismissed without
>modifying the rule that requires the use of minimum bandwidth, without
>modifying the rules against intentional interference, and without
>modifying the rule that requires "good engineering practice," willful
>use of a bandwidth in excess of 2.8 KHz can *still* be considered a
>violation in conjunction with other conditions - particularly
>interference, splatter, distortion, IMD, etc.
>
>73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
>On 4/27/2014 8:42 PM, Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft wrote:
>>>>>> This issue is not just about "...other hams having fun doing what they
>> want to do with their K3s", there really are some good engineering
>> reasons for not using ESSB below 100 MHz.  Joe has articulated a few.
>> Beyond the "...other hams having fun..." argument, is there really any
>> other reason to do ESSB? <<<<
>>
>> David, et al.
>>
>> The question of " Legality " and Engineering reasoning has been bantered 
>> around
>> on numerous different occasions.
>> There are many in their zeal to defend their ideals will make frivolous 
>> statements on
>> what should or should not be the accepted TBW.
>> Irrespective of what some of us may think, there are no set number on TBW 
>> for SSB.
>>
>> For those who are about to get their under wears in a wad, here are the FCC 
>> view on the
>> subject a define bandwidth on Phone.
>>
>> http://www.nu9n.com/images/FCC-DA-04-3661A1-final.pdf
>>
>> There are many of us who often times forget that this is a HOBBY for 
>> Amateurs.
>>
>> 73 Milverton.
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 This issue is not just about "...other hams having fun doing what they
want to do with their K3s", there really are some good engineering
reasons for not using ESSB below 100 MHz.  Joe has articulated a few.
Beyond the "...other hams having fun..." argument, is there really any
other reason to do ESSB?  

David, et al. 

The question of " Legality " and Engineering reasoning has been bantered around 
on numerous different occasions.
There are many in their zeal to defend their ideals will make frivolous 
statements on  
what should or should not be the accepted TBW.
Irrespective of what some of us may think, there are no set number on TBW for 
SSB.

For those who are about to get their under wears in a wad, here are the FCC 
view on the 
subject a define bandwidth on Phone.

http://www.nu9n.com/images/FCC-DA-04-3661A1-final.pdf

There are many of us who often times forget that this is a HOBBY for Amateurs.

73 Milverton.


On Sunday, April 27, 2014 7:04 PM, David Cole  wrote:
 
Larry,
>Respectfully, I have to disagree with you here...  I built a state of
>the art fully digital audio studio for movie studio use three years ago,
>so I would fall into the "Audio Guys" group...  
>
>I really do think ESSB sounds cool, and the audio person in me likes to
>hear it, but the engineer in me thinks the ham bands are just the wrong
>place for it.  At least below 100 MHz.  
>
>This issue is not just about "...other hams having fun doing what they
>want to do with their K3s", there really are some good engineering
>reasons for not using ESSB below 100 MHz.  Joe has articulated a few.
>Beyond the "...other hams having fun..." argument, is there really any
>other reason to do ESSB?
>
>-- 
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>On Sun, 2014-04-27 at 21:41 +, Larry Wassmann wrote:
>> I am sorry now that I asked what I thought was a reasonable question. 
>> Looking for some help. But I guess most just wanted to vent their particular 
>> bias and dislike for other hams having fun doing what they want to do with 
>> their K3s. Why does Elecraft offer what they call a ESSB filter? Why do 
>> almost all new rigs come with EQs now? Do you think any of us audio guys had 
>> any influence? True thanks for those who sent me mail giving me real help 
>> and not just bash me and other who enjoy sounding like men not some little 
>> girl with her panties too tight. 
>> 
>> 
>> 73 OZ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: 
>>  Larry Martus Wassmann 
>>  Non omnis moriar 
>>  (Not all of me will die) - - - The good I do will live forever. 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Is there a reason the receive is so Skinny

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Joe, you seems to be the Resident Authority on the subject matter! 

73 Milverton. 

On Sunday, April 27, 2014 5:56 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV"  wrote:
 

>On 4/27/2014 6:18 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> Why do rigs include equalizers? First, because hams want them,
>> whether for a good reason or a bad one. HOW we use them is what
>> matters.
>
>Equalizers have a positive use with overly wide microphones like
>most electrets.  Cut everything below 100 Hz, roll off 200 Hz a
>bit, add a modest 3 to 5 dB per octave rise above 1000 Hz and pull
>it back down above 3 KHz and one generally has outstanding audio
>that sounds very life-like.
>
>Unfortunately like any tool, EQ can be misused unintentionally by those
>who don't know how to use it properly or misused intentionally by those
>who don't care about the impact to others.
>
>73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Serious Errors in the Manual

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

 I took the KX3 manual into the smallest room in the house for a few 
minutes this morning  


NOW! 

Is there anyone in the audience, who still has doubt about some of the most " 
Earth " shattering
thought processes ever to evolve from that Small Room. 

These thoughts are so " Electrifying " that it leaves its occupants no other 
option, but to 

have both feet " Grounded " 
Such is the beauty of having a well grounded, down to earth idea that can be 
conceived in
no other place but the "Small Room "    :-) 


ps. The devil made me do it! 



73 Milverton. 


On Friday, April 25, 2014 5:39 PM, Frank Precissi  wrote:
 
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Gary Gregory  wrote:
>
>> Frank,
>>
>> I don't think Jim's comments would be considered "blasting" by Elecraft. I
>> believe they know Jim quite well and Jim has provided a lot of input and
>> support over an extended time.
>>
>> I know Jim has taught me to look carefully at my own station installation
>> and the lessons learned have been of benefit to me.
>>
>> I thought Jim's comments were timely but that is only my opinion and not
>> shared by many perhaps. I believe Jim meant no disrespect to Elecraft.
>>
>> Gary
>
>
>My issue was not about the content, but about the delivery.  If I had an
>issue about a vague or incorrect term for a product I wouldn't go on a
>public forum and call them to the mat on how wrong it is (ie: "These
>paragraphs demand a serious and immediate rewrite. Yes, we've seen serious
>errors in equipment manuals for as long as I've been a ham, but we expect
>more from Elecraft").
>
>
>Frank
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Re: [Elecraft] Check Circuit Breaker

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Do you have a Dummy Load? 
By transmitting into a DL, you will eliminate or confirm 
the presence of Common Mode Current, or any Antenna 
related problems. 
You also have the DMM, you can check for Voltave drop. 

Best of luck. 


73 Milverton. 


On Friday, April 25, 2014 11:50 AM, Martin  wrote:
 
Elecrafters,
>the K3 all of a sudden shut down twice during my vacation/portable 
>operation. I thought i had identified the problem by tightening a loose 
>wire in a 220V-outlet of my /p home.
>
>Now it shut down a third time (i believe the refrigerator turned on the 
>same moment) and this seems to be a tough one.
>
>The display shows 12V ERR on transmit , the power will not go above 12 
>Watts and when i set it above 12 Watts i see 12V ERR , CHECK CIRCUIT 
>BREAKER. The Fan runs continuosly at mid-level.
>
>Where to start? The only gear for measuring is a DMM here.
>
>BTW: The Switcher PSU delivers rock solid 13.8 Volts.
>There is no way to reload the Firmware right now, i have no cable  here.
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Elecraft UPS deliveries

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

SIGH!!


Now Elecraft is drawn in into this Moaning and GRIPING.

PLEASE, Please, go back and read the original post! 
Elecraft had absolutely nothing to do with the time it took for him
get his purchased item. 

BTW. Elecraftlet you pick your own POISON


On Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:34 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft 
 wrote:
 

>
>I have to agree (that is should stay here)
>
>I like Elecraft and have swayed a number of people to them, but getting a 
>ordered product
>shipped to me correctly and in a timely manner is part of that business 
>relationship.
>
>I work hard to earn the money I spend with Elecraft.
>That money represents the fruits of my labors, when I spend it with Elecraft
>I'm trusting them to process my orders in a very timely and correct manner.
>
>I tend to use Priority Mail it is the most cost effective and allows me to 
>spend more with Elecraft.
>
>(I would like to see Elecraft use more Flat rate shipping since it's typically 
>cheaper than the current
 rates)
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Bill Turner 
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:51 AM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft UPS deliveries
>
>
>ORIGINAL MESSAGE:          (may
>be snipped)
>
>On 4/23/2014 7:47 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> Maybe this thread would better be moved to the United Parcel Service 
>> list? 
>
>REPLY:
>
>I think the thread is fine right here. Anyone who deals with Elecraft 
>deals with shipping. I'm finding the various experiences most interesting.
>
>73, Bill W6WRT
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: Elecraft UPS deliveries

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

SIGH!!


Now Elecraft is drawn in into this Moaning and GRIPING.

PLEASE, Please, go back and read the original post! 
Elecraft had absolutely nothing to do with the time it took for him
get his purchased item. 

BTW. Elecraft let you pick your own POISON in terms of shipping 
when you buy from them. 


Is it that Ham Radio operators just love to complain? 


73 Milverton / W9MMS

On Thursday, April 24, 2014 7:34 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft 
 wrote:
 

>
>I have to agree (that is should stay here)
>
>I like Elecraft and have swayed a number of people to them, but getting a 
>ordered product
>shipped to me correctly and in a timely manner is part of that business 
>relationship.
>
>I work hard to earn the money I spend with Elecraft.
>That money represents the fruits of my labors, when I spend it with Elecraft
>I'm trusting them to process my orders in a very timely and correct manner.
>
>I tend to use Priority Mail it is the most cost effective and allows me to 
>spend more with Elecraft.
>
>(I would like to see Elecraft use more Flat rate shipping since it's typically 
>cheaper than the current rates)
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Bill Turner 
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:51 AM
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft UPS deliveries
>
>
>ORIGINAL MESSAGE:          (may
>be snipped)
>
>On 4/23/2014 7:47 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>> Maybe this thread would better be moved to the United Parcel Service 
>> list? 
>
>REPLY:
>
>I think the thread is fine right here. Anyone who deals with Elecraft 
>deals with shipping. I'm finding the various experiences most interesting.
>
>73, Bill W6WRT
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft UPS deliveries

[Milverton M. Swire via Elecraft]

Did you choose next day, or 2nd day " Delivery"  

    OR! 

Did  you choose the "Cheapest"  option that was available? 

73 Milverton. 


On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 6:41 AM, Slava Baytalskiy  
wrote:
 
Hi everyone!
>Sorry if i'm venting, but how come even the tiniest packages from Elecraft 
>take full 7 days to arrive via UPS Ground?
>1 pound package via UPS Ground, for almost $17 shouldn't take this long, 
>should it?
>I understand this isn't Amazon Prime, but come on, 7 days?
>
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