[Elecraft] K3/10 for sale
*K3/10 for sale* This is a nearly stock original K3 -10 watt version- with just one extra installed. 100 percent working. No dings, no scratches, no upgrades, no failures. Includes Elecraft original box. I am the original owner - Doug, KR2Q. SN 822. Always non-smoking, indoor heated and Air Conditioned environment. Never out of the shack no field day, etc. This is a backup radio for me. I have another K3, even earlier, that I am keeping. *Includes:* Elecraft 500hz 5 pole CW filter Priced for quick sale: $800 via US Postal Money Order, Shipping and insurance within CONUS extra. USA sale only. If a personal check, allow time to clear prior to shipping. Sale is final, no returns. Email: see qrz.com address *If you don’t know what was an option on early K3 radios, this radio does NOT include* KXV3 RX antenna in/out jacks, transverter in/out jacks, and a buffered IF output for use with our P3 panadapter. KAT3A 100W ATU KTCX03-1 High Stability Reference Oscillator KDVR3- Digital Voice Recorder KBPF3A - General Coverage RX Band-pass Filters KRX3A - High Performance Subreceiver K144XV - K144XV Internal 2M 10w Option K3EXREF - Ext 10MHz Ref Input for K3S de Doug KR2Q __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3-10 for sale sold!
Sold On Mon, Aug 31, 2020 at 13:56 Mike Short wrote: > S/N 5737. Has 2.7, 1.8 8pole, 500Hz filters. KXV3B, and KIO3A > > This was an unassembled kit. 0 hours operating. > > $500 OBO. > > Mike > AI4NS > > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3-10 for sale
S/N 5737. Has 2.7, 1.8 8pole, 500Hz filters. KXV3B, and KIO3A This was an unassembled kit. 0 hours operating. $500 OBO. Mike AI4NS __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
[Elecraft] K3/10 FOR SALE
FOR SALE: Elecraft K3/10, 2.7 KHz filter, KAT3 tuner, KXV3 Xvter I/O. Excellent condition w/most mods. Includes serial and power cables. $1100 Shipped. Allen, W0OUU __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 - For Sale
K3 has been sold. On Nov 3, 2013, at 7:48 PM, VaibhaV Sharma vaib...@vaibhavsharma.com wrote: Sad to part with my K3 to pay for emergency home repairs. Oh well, no K3 without a roof on family's head. K3/10 (10W version) - Serial #73XX (Late April 2013) Includes all firmware updates till early October 2013 KAT3 - ATU Modular Kit KFL3A-2.7K - 2.7 KHz 5 pole filter (standard) KFL3A-400 - 400 Hz, 8 pole filter E850323 - 5ppm oscillator (standard) KUSB - Universal Serial Bus Adapter MH2 - K2/K3 Hand held microphone Original manuals and other documentation included. $2050 shipped, to CONUS only. Paypal or postal MO. Please contact off-list. Scammers: Don't even bother. -- VaibhaV Sharma __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/10 - For Sale
Sad to part with my K3 to pay for emergency home repairs. Oh well, no K3 without a roof on family's head. K3/10 (10W version) - Serial #73XX (Late April 2013) Includes all firmware updates till early October 2013 KAT3 - ATU Modular Kit KFL3A-2.7K - 2.7 KHz 5 pole filter (standard) KFL3A-400 - 400 Hz, 8 pole filter E850323 - 5ppm oscillator (standard) KUSB - Universal Serial Bus Adapter MH2 - K2/K3 Hand held microphone Original manuals and other documentation included. $2050 shipped, to CONUS only. Paypal or postal MO. Please contact off-list. Scammers: Don't even bother. -- VaibhaV Sharma __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale
I have a K3/10 serial # 5687 I purchased 8/2011 that I need to sell. It has the latest firmware and includes the following. K3/10 K144XV Internal 2M 10watt xcvr KAT3 antenna tuner KFL3B-FM roofing filter 2.7 kHz 5-pole filter KTCXO3-1 0.5ppm oscillator KXV3A RX Ant IF Out and Xverter Interface MH2 hand held mic The radio is in excellent condition, and it has had limited use in the time I've had it. I am the original owner, and it currently lives in a non-smoking home. $2000 + shipping Please contact me at the following address if you are interested timselecraf...@icloud.com. Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3-10, FOR SALE, NEW IN BOX, FACTORY WARRANTY, DISCOUNTED
I just won a brand new, factory built, K3-10, serial # 6702, at the Albuquerque ARRL convention. I am offering it for sale. It is unopened, and it goes with the full Elecraft Factory Warranty. I am willing to discount and provide free shipping within the continental US. You can reach me at: gilgray1...@aol.com, or 510 406- Phone calls are preferred. 73, Gil Belen, NM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale
Selling K3/10 s/n 3058. Includes KAT3 tuner, KFL3A 5-pole 200Hz filter, stock SSB filter, power cord and Owners Manual. Price is $1650 plus shipping. Selling to fund upgrades to my other K3. Please reply to kredwa...@gmail.com. Tnx! --Ken WA4SQM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3/10 for sale
Mint condition k3/10 for sale- Serial number 2707 with 250hz, 400hz, 1000hz and 2.7khz roofing filters. Factory built with mh2 hand mike and astron vs-12m linear supply. Original boxes , manual and usb to serial converter. $1500. 73's KT9T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3/10 for sale
For Sale- k3/10- serial number 2707 with following filters: 250hz, 400hz, 1000hz, and 2.7khz. Also included mh-2 hand mike and astron power supply vs-12m. Radio is in mint condition and works perfectly. Factory assembled. $2200 value for $1400. Cash and pick up only. Live in Minneapolis area. Contact off reflector if interested. 73's KT9T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3/10 for sale
For sale: Mint condition k3/10 with following filters: 250hz, 400 hz, 1000hz, 2.7kc . Factory built, works perfectly. Also included: mh2 hand mike, astron vs-12m power supply. serial #2707 (february 2009). cash and pick up only. Minneapolis area. Please respond off reflector if interested. 73's Skip kt9t __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] k3/10 for sale
$1500 price. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
I've decided to offer up K3/10 #495 for sale or possible trade. Rig works as advertised, has the latest firmware, and is in like-new condition. The only installed option is the 5-pole 500 Hz roofing filter. Built from kit observing all ESD precautions. Only deviation from instructions was the use of 2 zinc pan-head screws to secure the output transistors to the bottom panel. (was short two black screws) Manuals, paperwork, and power cord included, of course. Will sell outright for $1,750 (double-boxed shipping and insurance included to US only). Digital pics available on request. Would also be very interested in swapping for a loaded Ten-Tec Omni-VI+ (Model 564) in like condition. Why sell? It's strictly a matter of personal preference, mainly around ergonomics issues. The Omni-VI rigs have been my main choice for some time. There's no doubt that the K3 has better selectivity, and probably does a better job of digging out the weak ones. But, I miss the big display, knobs, analog S-meter, one-button pushes for band changes, band stacking, bandwith, etc. I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. If interested, please reply direct to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] to hold down list traffic. I subscribe to the digest, so will not see list replies for some period of time. Tnx 73, Luther N4UW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
Luther B. Phillips wrote: Only deviation from instructions was the use of 2 zinc pan-head screws to secure the output transistors to the bottom panel. (was short two black screws) I did the same when building mine, and so did a couple of other people judging by a couple of recent posts on the Zerobeat K3 forum. I wonder how common this is, and whether Elecraft has actually miscalculated the number of screws required? - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-10-For-Sale-or-Trade-tp16080516p16080801.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
Paul Christensen wrote: I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. That's one K3 limitation that I have not experienced with most other transceivers. Of all the panel buttons, the placement of the REV button is probably the most critical. Other controls maybe touched up periodically but when you're working split with a paddle in one hand, split mode requires a very ergonomic one-hand operation. I would have preferred the K3's REV button placed either in place of the red Freq. Entry button so that the right index finger can be used while using the thumb and other fingers to find the Dx stations listening frequency -- or in the alternative, placement of the REV button on the lower left of the main VFO so that the right thumb is used. I am right-handed so I am naturally biased. The Ducie guys with their K3s never ran into this dilemma as the DX station. It manifests only for the mere mortals trying to work the DX station. Of course, when the sub-receiver is offered, this all becomes moot point but not everyone will want the optional sub-rx. A useful feature for K3s that don't have the sub-receiver would be to duplicate the REV function on the SUB button. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
What a great idea!!! :-) Our messages crossed. 73, doug Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:33:12 + From: Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Christensen wrote: I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. That's one K3 limitation that I have not experienced with most other transceivers. Of all the panel buttons, the placement of the REV button is probably the most critical. Other controls maybe touched up periodically but when you're working split with a paddle in one hand, split mode requires a very ergonomic one-hand operation. I would have preferred the K3's REV button placed either in place of the red Freq. Entry button so that the right index finger can be used while using the thumb and other fingers to find the Dx stations listening frequency -- or in the alternative, placement of the REV button on the lower left of the main VFO so that the right thumb is used. I am right-handed so I am naturally biased. The Ducie guys with their K3s never ran into this dilemma as the DX station. It manifests only for the mere mortals trying to work the DX station. Of course, when the sub-receiver is offered, this all becomes moot point but not everyone will want the optional sub-rx. A useful feature for K3s that don't have the sub-receiver would be to duplicate the REV function on the SUB button. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
I'll bring this with Wayne. If he approves I'll put it on the update list. The request will be for a menu option to swap the SUB and REV functions. But remember there won't be an icon to indicate the status. So once you set it - it's up to the user to remember. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade What a great idea!!! :-) Our messages crossed. 73, doug Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:33:12 + From: Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Christensen wrote: I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. That's one K3 limitation that I have not experienced with most other transceivers. Of all the panel buttons, the placement of the REV button is probably the most critical. Other controls maybe touched up periodically but when you're working split with a paddle in one hand, split mode requires a very ergonomic one-hand operation. I would have preferred the K3's REV button placed either in place of the red Freq. Entry button so that the right index finger can be used while using the thumb and other fingers to find the Dx stations listening frequency -- or in the alternative, placement of the REV button on the lower left of the main VFO so that the right thumb is used. I am right-handed so I am naturally biased. The Ducie guys with their K3s never ran into this dilemma as the DX station. It manifests only for the mere mortals trying to work the DX station. Of course, when the sub-receiver is offered, this all becomes moot point but not everyone will want the optional sub-rx. A useful feature for K3s that don't have the sub-receiver would be to duplicate the REV function on the SUB button. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
A useful feature for K3s that don't have the sub-receiver would be to duplicate the REV function on the SUB button. What a great idea!!! :-) I'll second that motion. Paul, W9AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
Hi I also found the black 4-40 1/4 screws to be short. I had 8-10 of the 3/16 black pan heads, 5 or 6 of the black flatheads and 5 or 6 silver 4-40 1/4 left over. I also had plenty of lockwashers. I just used three of the silver 4-40 1/4 on the transistors in place of the black screws. I think Elecraft needs to increase the number on these 1/4 inch screws and maybe include a couple of spares like the rest of the black hardware. The case screws are the ones that tend to get lost when options or mods are installed so a few extra is always nice. Don Brown KD5NDB Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:23:35 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade Luther B. Phillips wrote:Only deviation from instructions was the use of 2 zinc pan-head screws to secure the output transistors to the bottom panel. (was short two black screws) I did the same when building mine, and so did a couple of other people judging by a couple of recent posts on the Zerobeat K3 forum. I wonder how common this is, and whether Elecraft has actually miscalculated the number of screws required? - Julian, G4ILO K3 s/n: 222 K2 s/n: 392 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-10-For-Sale-or-Trade-tp16080516p16080801.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
Greg wrote: I'll bring this with Wayne. If he approves I'll put it on the update list. The request will be for a menu option to swap the SUB and REV functions. But remember there won't be an icon to indicate the status. So once you set it - it's up to the user to remember. Sorry, that isn't what I was suggesting. As far as I can tell, the SUB button is completely dead until the KRX3 is installed. My suggestion was to put that wasted button to use in radios that don't have the KRX3, by making *both* SUB and REV do exactly the same. The difference between the two buttons is their location. REV is good for two-handed tuning, but as Paul identified, a convenient one-handed 'hold to reverse' function is vital for radios that don't have a second receiver. The SUB button would add that convenience. When the KRX3 is installed, the SUB button has to go back to its labeled function - and that's fine too, because the 'hold to reverse' function is hardly needed at all (the FT-1000 doesn't even have it). Swapping SUB and REV is a totally different issue... and I can't see much reason for wanting that. 73 from Ian GM3SEK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade What a great idea!!! :-) Our messages crossed. 73, doug Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:33:12 + From: Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Christensen wrote: I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. That's one K3 limitation that I have not experienced with most other transceivers. Of all the panel buttons, the placement of the REV button is probably the most critical. Other controls maybe touched up periodically but when you're working split with a paddle in one hand, split mode requires a very ergonomic one-hand operation. I would have preferred the K3's REV button placed either in place of the red Freq. Entry button so that the right index finger can be used while using the thumb and other fingers to find the Dx stations listening frequency -- or in the alternative, placement of the REV button on the lower left of the main VFO so that the right thumb is used. I am right-handed so I am naturally biased. The Ducie guys with their K3s never ran into this dilemma as the DX station. It manifests only for the mere mortals trying to work the DX station. Of course, when the sub-receiver is offered, this all becomes moot point but not everyone will want the optional sub-rx. A useful feature for K3s that don't have the sub-receiver would be to duplicate the REV function on the SUB button. ___ -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
Thanks for the clarification Ian. Will pass it on. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ian White GM3SEK Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 10:48 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade Greg wrote: I'll bring this with Wayne. If he approves I'll put it on the update list. The request will be for a menu option to swap the SUB and REV functions. But remember there won't be an icon to indicate the status. So once you set it - it's up to the user to remember. Sorry, that isn't what I was suggesting. As far as I can tell, the SUB button is completely dead until the KRX3 is installed. My suggestion was to put that wasted button to use in radios that don't have the KRX3, by making *both* SUB and REV do exactly the same. The difference between the two buttons is their location. REV is good for two-handed tuning, but as Paul identified, a convenient one-handed 'hold to reverse' function is vital for radios that don't have a second receiver. The SUB button would add that convenience. When the KRX3 is installed, the SUB button has to go back to its labeled function - and that's fine too, because the 'hold to reverse' function is hardly needed at all (the FT-1000 doesn't even have it). Swapping SUB and REV is a totally different issue... and I can't see much reason for wanting that. 73 from Ian GM3SEK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade What a great idea!!! :-) Our messages crossed. 73, doug Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:33:12 + From: Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Christensen wrote: I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. That's one K3 limitation that I have not experienced with most other transceivers. Of all the panel buttons, the placement of the REV button is probably the most critical. Other controls maybe touched up periodically but when you're working split with a paddle in one hand, split mode requires a very ergonomic one-hand operation. I would have preferred the K3's REV button placed either in place of the red Freq. Entry button so that the right index finger can be used while using the thumb and other fingers to find the Dx stations listening frequency -- or in the alternative, placement of the REV button on the lower left of the main VFO so that the right thumb is used. I am right-handed so I am naturally biased. The Ducie guys with their K3s never ran into this dilemma as the DX station. It manifests only for the mere mortals trying to work the DX station. Of course, when the sub-receiver is offered, this all becomes moot point but not everyone will want the optional sub-rx. A useful feature for K3s that don't have the sub-receiver would be to duplicate the REV function on the SUB button. ___ -- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1331 - Release Date: 3/16/2008 10:34 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
What Ian said. The button has no useful function currently with only one RX. In fact, maybe having a different keycap for single and dual-RX K3's would be an option? It's been a while since I had mine apart. 73, doug Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:48:10 + From: Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry, that isn't what I was suggesting. As far as I can tell, the SUB button is completely dead until the KRX3 is installed. My suggestion was to put that wasted button to use in radios that don't have the KRX3, by making *both* SUB and REV do exactly the same. The difference between the two buttons is their location. REV is good for two-handed tuning, but as Paul identified, a convenient one-handed 'hold to reverse' function is vital for radios that don't have a second receiver. The SUB button would add that convenience. When the KRX3 is installed, the SUB button has to go back to its labeled function - and that's fine too, because the 'hold to reverse' function is hardly needed at all (the FT-1000 doesn't even have it). Swapping SUB and REV is a totally different issue... and I can't see much reason for wanting that. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
That could be a very good thing Greg. I agree with the comments about the reverse button. When I was chasing the Ducie Island and Clipperton Island folks, I found it very easy to hit the wrong button when trying to check the reverse frequency. It was mostly operator error, but things get so frantic trying to work DX using split, it is hard not to make a mistake now and then. Of course, the 2nd RX will help a bunch when it becomes available. While we are on the subject of ergonomics and ease of operator use, I might toss out another feature I wish we could have--don't know if it's possible, but it would be nice. On my FT-1000MP Mark V, I have a wired remote pad which allows me to do certain things. For example, I can trigger the memory buttons. I find that to be a very handy thing when I am having to repeatedly send from the memory. On RTTY or CW I could send my call or whatever by just pushing a button on a pad instead of reaching up so often to hit the button on the TXCVR itself. It can actually get a little tiring doing that. A pad like this might also be able to trigger the reverse button. Using the buttons on the rig itself is fine usually, but when frequent repeated uses are called for , an accessory pad like this might work better. I realize this may not be possible with the K3, and if it is it would be an accessory option, but it would be handy. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:51 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade I'll bring this with Wayne. If he approves I'll put it on the update list. The request will be for a menu option to swap the SUB and REV functions. But remember there won't be an icon to indicate the status. So once you set it - it's up to the user to remember. Greg -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade What a great idea!!! :-) Our messages crossed. 73, doug Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 16:33:12 + From: Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Christensen wrote: I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. That's one K3 limitation that I have not experienced with most other transceivers. Of all the panel buttons, the placement of the REV button is probably the most critical. Other controls maybe touched up periodically but when you're working split with a paddle in one hand, split mode requires a very ergonomic one-hand operation. I would have preferred the K3's REV button placed either in place of the red Freq. Entry button so that the right index finger can be used while using the thumb and other fingers to find the Dx stations listening frequency -- or in the alternative, placement of the REV button on the lower left of the main VFO so that the right thumb is used. I am right-handed so I am naturally biased. The Ducie guys with their K3s never ran into this dilemma as the DX station. It manifests only for the mere mortals trying to work the DX station. Of course, when the sub-receiver is offered, this all becomes moot point but not everyone will want the optional sub-rx. A useful feature for K3s that don't have the sub-receiver would be to duplicate the REV function on the SUB button. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
Luther B. Phillips wrote: I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. Interesting. This came up fairly recently either here or on the K3 Yahoo Group. I used a TS-930S for many years and learned to depress TF-SET (Kenwood's equivalent to REV) with my left index finger and tune the Main VFO with my left pinky. Since I found it very natural to do the same with REV in the K3, out of curiosity I actually measured the distance of both rigs from the TF-SET/REV button to the edge of the Main VFO knob. Both are ~4...which explains why the K3 felt very natural to me. I do have big hands (~10 thumb tip to pinky tip) so this probably doesn't work for people with smaller spans. BTW I suspect the 930/940 probably had more all time units in the field than any other rig. 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-10-For-Sale-or-Trade-tp16080516p16082384.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
I don't have any trouble holding the REV button on my K3 with my index finger while turning the VFO A knob with my thumb. I do that a lot working DX like Ducie. Maybe it's a question of getting used to the placement of the button with a new radio. I have never used an Omni-VI, so I don't know whether its front-panel layout is easier to use or not. Just wanted to get my 2 cents worth in on this thread before it becomes accepted truth that the K3 layout is hard to use. It's plenty easy for me. 73, John, W2GW - Original Message - From: Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade Paul Christensen wrote: I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. That's one K3 limitation that I have not experienced with most other transceivers. Of all the panel buttons, the placement of the REV button is probably the most critical. Other controls maybe touched up periodically but when you're working split with a paddle in one hand, split mode requires a very ergonomic one-hand operation. I would have preferred the K3's REV button placed either in place of the red Freq. Entry button so that the right index finger can be used while using the thumb and other fingers to find the Dx stations listening frequency -- or in the alternative, placement of the REV button on the lower left of the main VFO so that the right thumb is used. I am right-handed so I am naturally biased. The Ducie guys with their K3s never ran into this dilemma as the DX station. It manifests only for the mere mortals trying to work the DX station. Of course, when the sub-receiver is offered, this all becomes moot point but not everyone will want the optional sub-rx. A useful feature for K3s that don't have the sub-receiver would be to duplicate the REV function on the SUB button. -- 73 from Ian GM3SEK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
Why not use the A/B button instead of REV when working split? No acrobatics necessary. Tap it once, tune the other frequency, tap it again and you are back where you started. 73 de ab2tc - Knut I don't have any trouble holding the REV button on my K3 with my index finger while turning the VFO A knob with my thumb. I do that a lot working DX like Ducie. Maybe it's a question of getting used to the placement of the button with a new radio. I have never used an Omni-VI, so I don't know whether its front-panel layout is easier to use or not. Just wanted to get my 2 cents worth in on this thread before it becomes accepted truth that the K3 layout is hard to use. It's plenty easy for me. 73, John, W2GW - Original Message - From: Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade Paul Christensen wrote: I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. That's one K3 limitation that I have not experienced with most other transceivers. Of all the panel buttons, the placement of the REV button is probably the most critical. Other controls maybe touched up periodically but when you're working split with a paddle in one hand, split mode requires a very ergonomic one-hand operation. I would have preferred the K3's REV button placed either in place of the red Freq. Entry button so that the right index finger can be used while using the thumb and other fingers to find the Dx stations listening frequency -- or in the alternative, placement of the REV button on the lower left of the main VFO so that the right thumb is used. I am right-handed so I am naturally biased. The Ducie guys with their K3s never ran into this dilemma as the DX station. It manifests only for the mere mortals trying to work the DX station. Of course, when the sub-receiver is offered, this all becomes moot point but not everyone will want the optional sub-rx. A useful feature for K3s that don't have the sub-receiver would be to duplicate the REV function on the SUB button. snip -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-10-For-Sale-or-Trade-tp16080516p16082524.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
Just wanted to get my 2 cents worth in on this thread before it becomes accepted truth that the K3 layout is hard to use. From the subject line I was more concerned that it would become accepted truth that everyone had a K3/10 for sale. ;-) I heard from Doug and he did accept an offer on his K3/100, for the same amount that a new one would sell for assembled if you could get it now. He said he looks forward to being back in line for a new K3 very soon, and the wait is certain to be shorter than the first time around. [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade John Reiser reiserj at optonline.net Sun Mar 16 13:46:02 EST 2008 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade Next message: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] I don't have any trouble holding the REV button on my K3 with my index finger while turning the VFO A knob with my thumb. I do that a lot working DX like Ducie. Maybe it's a question of getting used to the placement of the button with a new radio. I have never used an Omni-VI, so I don't know whether its front-panel layout is easier to use or not. Just wanted to get my 2 cents worth in on this thread before it becomes accepted truth that the K3 layout is hard to use. It's plenty easy for me. 73, John, W2GW ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
Bill W4ZV wrote: I used a TS-930S for many years and learned to depress TF-SET (Kenwood's equivalent to REV) with my left index finger and tune the Main VFO with my left pinky. Since I found it very natural to do the same with REV in the K3, out of curiosity I actually measured the distance of both rigs from the TF-SET/REV button to the edge of the Main VFO knob. Both are ~4...which explains why the K3 felt very natural to me. Correction...make that 4 from the TF-SET/REV button to the *center* of the Main VFO knobs. Also I would personally find it very difficult to do REV using the K3's SUB button due to the very tight spacing of the SUB location. There's simply no way my fingers would fit while depressing SUB and trying to turn the VFO knob with another finger. The spacing is far too tight, not to mention the position of SUB being very low even with the bail extended. To me it looks more like a two-hand operation than one-hand due to the very tight spacing. Maybe a Menu option could make everyone happy, but I like it the way it is now. 73, Bill -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-10-For-Sale-or-Trade-tp16080516p16082732.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:15:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill W4ZV [EMAIL PROTECTED] Also I would personally find it very difficult to do REV using the K3's SUB button due to the very tight spacing of the SUB location. There's simply no way my fingers would fit while depressing SUB and trying to turn the VFO knob with another finger. The spacing is far too tight, not to mention the position of SUB being very low even with the bail extended. To me it looks more like a two-hand operation than one-hand due to the very tight spacing. Maybe a Menu option could make everyone happy, but I like it the way it is now. Err, what Ian and I are suggesting would not in any way interfer with your doing it that way. It would just allow those of us with smaller hands (and those who might prefer lower hands and/or higher radios) to have a more convenient function, using a button that is currently serving no useful purpose. You'd lose nothing, others would gain. 73, doug ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
I don't understand why. If you forget to get back to the DX' transmit frequency, you will not hear him. Why would you transmit if you don't hear the DX says he is listening? I think most of the cases of transmitting on the wrong frequency is because SPLIT is turned off. I know I have made this mistake but *never* because the A/B was in the wrong state. Knut - AB2TC This is A/B approach is a transmit on the wrong VFO accident waiting to happen. The tap again is what can get lost in the heat of the action. There simply is no substitute for a second VFO/sub rx that is in RX all the time. That being said. One could always tell (just after the FT-1000MP's came out in numbers) who what using a new MP. They were the ones transmitting on the DX's frequency. Nothing is foolproof. de K3KO ab2tc wrote: Why not use the A/B button instead of REV when working split? No acrobatics necessary. Tap it once, tune the other frequency, tap it again and you are back where you started. 73 de ab2tc - Knut John Reiser-3 wrote: I don't have any trouble holding the REV button on my K3 with my index finger while turning the VFO A knob with my thumb. I do that a lot working DX like Ducie. Maybe it's a question of getting used to the placement of the button with a new radio. I have never used an Omni-VI, so I don't know whether its front-panel layout is easier to use or not. Just wanted to get my 2 cents worth in on this thread before it becomes accepted truth that the K3 layout is hard to use. It's plenty easy for me. 73, John, W2GW - Original Message - From: Ian White GM3SEK [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade Paul Christensen wrote: I also find it is much easier to hold the REV button and tune the VFO with one hand when working split on the Omni-VI than the K3. That's one K3 limitation that I have not experienced with most other transceivers. Of all the panel buttons, the placement of the REV button is probably the most critical. Other controls maybe touched up periodically but when you're working split with a paddle in one hand, split mode requires a very ergonomic one-hand operation. I would have preferred the K3's REV button placed either in place of the red Freq. Entry button so that the right index finger can be used while using the thumb and other fingers to find the Dx stations listening frequency -- or in the alternative, placement of the REV button on the lower left of the main VFO so that the right thumb is used. I am right-handed so I am naturally biased. The Ducie guys with their K3s never ran into this dilemma as the DX station. It manifests only for the mere mortals trying to work the DX station. Of course, when the sub-receiver is offered, this all becomes moot point but not everyone will want the optional sub-rx. A useful feature for K3s that don't have the sub-receiver would be to duplicate the REV function on the SUB button. snip -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-10-For-Sale-or-Trade-tp16080516p16083802.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
ab2tc wrote: Why would you transmit if you don't hear the DX says he is listening? I have to admit that I would like to know the answer to this one too! -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3/10 For Sale or Trade
I have to admit that I would like to know the answer to this one too! Vic, the idea is to minimize any propensity for Tx error. Far too many ops call the DX station incessantly without listening. These are the guys I would really hate to see using A/B. If you're really cognizant about your operations, it can work well. I would like to avoid the embarrassment of transmitting by accident at every opportunity. By contrast, no matter what state the REV button is in when operating split after the initial set-up, I won't transmit on the DX station -- unless I've spun VFO B down so low as to create interference. That's a far less likely situation. Paul, W9AC ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
