Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread KENT TRIMBLE

Hi Dick . . .

Good to see you on the reflector again.

One "earthly reason" for having four people wear headphones during FD is 
when you are wanting to train new operators.  By monitoring both sides 
of the contact they can better grasp what's going on and practice 
copying the exchanges (especially so for CW students).


We have used both the Behringer AMP800 
(http://www.musictribe.com/Categories/Behringer/Signal-Processors/Headphone-Amplifiers/AMP800/p/P0331) 
and the Rolls HA-43 (http://www.rolls.com/product.php?pid=HA43), and 
both amps work fine at 100 watts with no RFI.


They have also been useful for summertime QRP sprints (e.g., Bumble Bee 
and Skeeter Hunt) where signals, weak to begin with, are further drowned 
out by outdoor noises.  Some QRP rigs don't have speakers and those that 
do are often not usable outdoors.


73,

Kent  K9ZTV





On 1/16/2019 10:47 AM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft wrote:

  Like Walter, I use the Behringer HA-400 with my K3 on Field Day.  You can 
have up to four individuals on headphones (no earthly idea why you would have 
four) ...




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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread Jim Brown

On 1/16/2019 4:49 AM, K9MA wrote:
I had to add isolation transformers for the same reason the K3 has 
them on the line outputs. 


If you had to add isolation transformers, your station is not properly 
bonded. There is NO good reason for needing transformers if all the 
equipment in a station is properly bonded. 
http://k9yc.com/GroundingAndAudio.pdf


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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread K9MA
There's no mystery at all. The headphone outputs of two radios go to a 
switching system with a common ground. There inevitably is a small AC 
voltage difference between the chassis of the two radios, and from the 
radios to the rest of the system ground, which results in some current 
flowing in the headphone cable ground wires. Bonding everything together 
with braid might have helped, but it might have been hard to get the 
impedance low enough. The common ground was an oversight on my part, but 
avoiding it would have required third relay pole and isolated headphone 
jacks. Rather than rebuild the switching system, I inserted the 
transformers. They serve exactly the same purpose as the K3 internal 
ones in the line outputs.


I'm not sure how other SO2R systems deal with the problem, but it has to 
be either isolation transformers of switched headphone grounds. Or, as 
does one of my friends, completely isolated left and right headphones.


73,
Scott K9MA

On 1/16/2019 09:36, Don Wilhelm wrote:
The K3/K3S Line Out already has isolation transformers internal to the 
K3.  I do not understand any need to put additional transformers in 
the audio path(s).


What happens if you cable to LINE OUT signals to a computer soundcard 
(with both left and right channels - some only are one channel if the 
input is set for MIC)?  You should hear the main RX in the left 
channel and the SubRX in the right.


Your external transformers/cabling raises the question of "is it the 
K3S or is it your external devices that are causing the problem".


Time to strip everything down to the essentials and begin to determine 
where the "failure" is occurring.  Test one thing at a time.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/15/2019 8:00 PM, Dave Sublette wrote:
My K3s arrived over the weekend and I have been setting it up. I am 
using
the rear Audio jacks to drive either headphones, or the Line out to 
drive

an amplifier and two speakers in the stereo mode.

The headphone jack has stereo output ok.  But the line out only has 
right

channel audio.  Left channel has nothing but a low hum.

I am testing them one at a time, using the same cable. So it is not a 
case
of a bad cable.  The plug inserts to the same depth in both the 
headphone

and line out jacks, so I believe the plug is properly inserted,

I have been through both the Main Menu and Config menus, item by 
item.  I
see nothing that would give the option to turn off the left channel 
of the

line out.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread RIchard Williams via Elecraft
 Like Walter, I use the Behringer HA-400 with my K3 on Field Day.  You can have 
up to four individuals on headphones (no earthly idea why you would have four), 
and each can control the volume to their headsets.  If you have visitors and 
want to use the speaker too, that can be done in the menu setting to have both 
speaker and headphones on.
Never had a problem with RFI, but we are only running the K3 barefoot.   
Dick, K8ZTT
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 9:14:54 AM MST, K9MA  
wrote:  
 
 On 1/16/2019 10:00, Walter Underwood wrote:
> When I need to drive two sets of headphones, I use a $25 Behringer HA400 
> headphone distribution amp.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-HA400-Ultra-Compact-4-Channel-Headphone/dp/B000KIPT30

Any trouble with RFI?

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I agree but in the case of using two radios, two pair of headphones, a 
switching system and getting hum indicates a serious deficiency in the 
station interconnection and ground scheme. Everything should be at the 
same potential, thus no current would flow.   As they say "sum-tin not 
right".


73

Bob, K4TAX

On 1/16/2019 10:00 AM, Walter Underwood wrote:

When I need to drive two sets of headphones, I use a $25 Behringer HA400 
headphone distribution amp.

https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-HA400-Ultra-Compact-4-Channel-Headphone/dp/B000KIPT30

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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread Walter Underwood
Haven’t noticed any. It is a simple device, a quad op-amp and four pots in a 
little metal box. It runs off 12 V, so it can plug into the shack supply.

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> On Jan 16, 2019, at 8:14 AM, K9MA  wrote:
> 
> On 1/16/2019 10:00, Walter Underwood wrote:
>> When I need to drive two sets of headphones, I use a $25 Behringer HA400 
>> headphone distribution amp.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-HA400-Ultra-Compact-4-Channel-Headphone/dp/B000KIPT30
> 
> Any trouble with RFI?
> 
> 73,
> 
> Scott K9MA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread K9MA

On 1/16/2019 10:00, Walter Underwood wrote:

When I need to drive two sets of headphones, I use a $25 Behringer HA400 
headphone distribution amp.

https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-HA400-Ultra-Compact-4-Channel-Headphone/dp/B000KIPT30


Any trouble with RFI?

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread Walter Underwood
When I need to drive two sets of headphones, I use a $25 Behringer HA400 
headphone distribution amp.

https://www.amazon.com/Behringer-HA400-Ultra-Compact-4-Channel-Headphone/dp/B000KIPT30

wunder
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> On Jan 16, 2019, at 7:36 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> The K3/K3S Line Out already has isolation transformers internal to the K3.  I 
> do not understand any need to put additional transformers in the audio 
> path(s).
> 
> What happens if you cable to LINE OUT signals to a computer soundcard (with 
> both left and right channels - some only are one channel if the input is set 
> for MIC)?  You should hear the main RX in the left channel and the SubRX in 
> the right.
> 
> Your external transformers/cabling raises the question of "is it the K3S or 
> is it your external devices that are causing the problem".
> 
> Time to strip everything down to the essentials and begin to determine where 
> the "failure" is occurring.  Test one thing at a time.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 1/15/2019 8:00 PM, Dave Sublette wrote:
>> My K3s arrived over the weekend and I have been setting it up. I am using
>> the rear Audio jacks to drive either headphones, or the Line out to drive
>> an amplifier and two speakers in the stereo mode.
>> The headphone jack has stereo output ok.  But the line out only has right
>> channel audio.  Left channel has nothing but a low hum.
>> I am testing them one at a time, using the same cable. So it is not a case
>> of a bad cable.  The plug inserts to the same depth in both the headphone
>> and line out jacks, so I believe the plug is properly inserted,
>> I have been through both the Main Menu and Config menus, item by item.  I
>> see nothing that would give the option to turn off the left channel of the
>> line out.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
The K3/K3S Line Out already has isolation transformers internal to the 
K3.  I do not understand any need to put additional transformers in the 
audio path(s).


What happens if you cable to LINE OUT signals to a computer soundcard 
(with both left and right channels - some only are one channel if the 
input is set for MIC)?  You should hear the main RX in the left channel 
and the SubRX in the right.


Your external transformers/cabling raises the question of "is it the K3S 
or is it your external devices that are causing the problem".


Time to strip everything down to the essentials and begin to determine 
where the "failure" is occurring.  Test one thing at a time.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/15/2019 8:00 PM, Dave Sublette wrote:

My K3s arrived over the weekend and I have been setting it up. I am using
the rear Audio jacks to drive either headphones, or the Line out to drive
an amplifier and two speakers in the stereo mode.

The headphone jack has stereo output ok.  But the line out only has right
channel audio.  Left channel has nothing but a low hum.

I am testing them one at a time, using the same cable. So it is not a case
of a bad cable.  The plug inserts to the same depth in both the headphone
and line out jacks, so I believe the plug is properly inserted,

I have been through both the Main Menu and Config menus, item by item.  I
see nothing that would give the option to turn off the left channel of the
line out.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread K9MA
The headphone outputs from my radios are switched with some relays. The 
switching system has a common ground, which creates a ground loop, 
resulting in 60 Hz hum in the headphones. (Call it common impedance 
coupling, if you prefer.) I should have isolated the headphone grounds, 
but a path of less resistance was to insert the isolation transformers. 
They are just common 600 Ohm transformers, like the ones in the K3 line 
outputs, but they're a bit lossy driving headphones.


73,
Scott K9MA

On 1/16/2019 09:02, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
I see no need for isolation transformers with headphones.  Likely the 
transformers is the reason the HP output won't drive a pair of 
headphones.   Isolation transformers?  Are they 3 winding hybrid 
transformers?    I've used them in professional audio installations 
but they are rare and expensive.


73

Bob, K4TAX




On 1/15/2019 11:23 PM, K9MA wrote:
I found that the level at headphone output, at least the rear panel 
one, was too low to drive two pairs of headphones in parallel in my 
setup, which includes some isolation transformers. The speaker 
output works fine with the headphones. (Don't try this with super 
sensitive low impedance headphones.) I just wired a switch to an 
external speaker.


73,
Scott K9MA

On 1/15/2019 20:51, Nr4c wrote:
Why use Line Out for speakers. There is a perfectly good jack 
marked Speakers right next to the Phones jack. Be sure and use a 
Stereo plug but it is for wait for it.  Speakers!





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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I see no need for isolation transformers with headphones.  Likely the 
transformers is the reason the HP output won't drive a pair of 
headphones.   Isolation transformers?  Are they 3 winding hybrid 
transformers?    I've used them in professional audio installations but 
they are rare and expensive.


73

Bob, K4TAX




On 1/15/2019 11:23 PM, K9MA wrote:
I found that the level at headphone output, at least the rear panel 
one, was too low to drive two pairs of headphones in parallel in my 
setup, which includes some isolation transformers. The speaker output 
works fine with the headphones. (Don't try this with super sensitive 
low impedance headphones.) I just wired a switch to an external speaker.


73,
Scott K9MA

On 1/15/2019 20:51, Nr4c wrote:
Why use Line Out for speakers. There is a perfectly good jack marked 
Speakers right next to the Phones jack. Be sure and use a Stereo 
plug but it is for wait for it.  Speakers!




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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread K9MA
My station has a relay system for switching the headphones between two 
different radios, among other things. I had to add isolation 
transformers for the same reason the K3 has them on the line outputs. 
The loss in the transformers reduces the audio level too much for the 
rear panel headphone jack to drive two sets of the low sensitivity 
headphones I use. And I don't want a cable in the way to the front panel.


That's why it's "complicated".

73,
Scott K9MA

"Everything should be as simple as possible, but no simpler." -- Albert 
Einstein




On 1/15/2019 23:38, Don Wilhelm wrote:
Last Field Day, my K3 was used at the CW station.  Two sets of 
headphones.  One for the operator and one for the logger.
One was plugged into the rear panel Phones jack and the other was 
plugged into the front panel jack.  No problem, no splitter.
Ok, if there were folks nearby who wanted to listen in, we would 
simply turn on SPKR+PHONES in the menu, and the speaker could also be 
heard.


Very versatile.  Why make it complicated - the K3 gives us the tools 
to do it 'the easy way'.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/15/2019 11:23 PM, K9MA wrote:
I found that the level at headphone output, at least the rear panel 
one, was too low to drive two pairs of headphones in parallel in my 
setup, which includes some isolation transformers. The speaker output 
works fine with the headphones. (Don't try this with super sensitive 
low impedance headphones.) I just wired a switch to an external speaker.


73,
Scott K9MA

On 1/15/2019 20:51, Nr4c wrote:
Why use Line Out for speakers. There is a perfectly good jack marked 
Speakers right next to the Phones jack. Be sure and use a Stereo 
plug but it is for wait for it.  Speakers!




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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-16 Thread Nr4c
Thanks Don. 

WAARC has been doing just that for about 8 or nine years. Works great. But some 
folks just want to make it hard. 

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> On Jan 16, 2019, at 12:38 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Last Field Day, my K3 was used at the CW station.  Two sets of headphones.  
> One for the operator and one for the logger.
> One was plugged into the rear panel Phones jack and the other was plugged 
> into the front panel jack.  No problem, no splitter.
> Ok, if there were folks nearby who wanted to listen in, we would simply turn 
> on SPKR+PHONES in the menu, and the speaker could also be heard.
> 
> Very versatile.  Why make it complicated - the K3 gives us the tools to do it 
> 'the easy way'.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
>> On 1/15/2019 11:23 PM, K9MA wrote:
>> I found that the level at headphone output, at least the rear panel one, was 
>> too low to drive two pairs of headphones in parallel in my setup, which 
>> includes some isolation transformers. The speaker output works fine with the 
>> headphones. (Don't try this with super sensitive low impedance headphones.) 
>> I just wired a switch to an external speaker.
>> 73,
>> Scott K9MA
>>> On 1/15/2019 20:51, Nr4c wrote:
>>> Why use Line Out for speakers. There is a perfectly good jack marked 
>>> Speakers right next to the Phones jack. Be sure and use a Stereo plug but 
>>> it is for wait for it.  Speakers!
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-15 Thread Don Wilhelm
Last Field Day, my K3 was used at the CW station.  Two sets of 
headphones.  One for the operator and one for the logger.
One was plugged into the rear panel Phones jack and the other was 
plugged into the front panel jack.  No problem, no splitter.
Ok, if there were folks nearby who wanted to listen in, we would simply 
turn on SPKR+PHONES in the menu, and the speaker could also be heard.


Very versatile.  Why make it complicated - the K3 gives us the tools to 
do it 'the easy way'.


73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/15/2019 11:23 PM, K9MA wrote:
I found that the level at headphone output, at least the rear panel one, 
was too low to drive two pairs of headphones in parallel in my setup, 
which includes some isolation transformers. The speaker output works 
fine with the headphones. (Don't try this with super sensitive low 
impedance headphones.) I just wired a switch to an external speaker.


73,
Scott K9MA

On 1/15/2019 20:51, Nr4c wrote:
Why use Line Out for speakers. There is a perfectly good jack marked 
Speakers right next to the Phones jack. Be sure and use a Stereo plug 
but it is for wait for it.  Speakers!




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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-15 Thread K9MA
I found that the level at headphone output, at least the rear panel one, 
was too low to drive two pairs of headphones in parallel in my setup, 
which includes some isolation transformers. The speaker output works 
fine with the headphones. (Don't try this with super sensitive low 
impedance headphones.) I just wired a switch to an external speaker.


73,
Scott K9MA

On 1/15/2019 20:51, Nr4c wrote:

Why use Line Out for speakers. There is a perfectly good jack marked Speakers 
right next to the Phones jack. Be sure and use a Stereo plug but it is for 
wait for it.  Speakers!



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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-15 Thread Nr4c
Do you have a sub-receiver?

Without it, I don’t think you have any signal to hear. 

Why use Line Out for speakers. There is a perfectly good jack marked Speakers 
right next to the Phones jack. Be sure and use a Stereo plug but it is for 
wait for it.  Speakers!



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...nr4c. bill


> On Jan 15, 2019, at 9:33 PM, Dave Sublette  wrote:
> 
> yes
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:05 PM Charles Jack Hawley 
> wrote:
> 
>> Config-Spkrs set to 2?
>> 
>> Chuck Jack
>> KE9UW
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone, cjack
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2019, at 7:01 PM, Dave Sublette  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My K3s arrived over the weekend and I have been setting it up. I am using
>>> the rear Audio jacks to drive either headphones, or the Line out to drive
>>> an amplifier and two speakers in the stereo mode.
>>> 
>>> The headphone jack has stereo output ok.  But the line out only has right
>>> channel audio.  Left channel has nothing but a low hum.
>>> 
>>> I am testing them one at a time, using the same cable. So it is not a
>> case
>>> of a bad cable.  The plug inserts to the same depth in both the headphone
>>> and line out jacks, so I believe the plug is properly inserted,
>>> 
>>> I have been through both the Main Menu and Config menus, item by item.  I
>>> see nothing that would give the option to turn off the left channel of
>> the
>>> line out.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have any suggestions?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Dave, K4TO
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-15 Thread Dave Sublette
yes


On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 9:05 PM Charles Jack Hawley 
wrote:

> Config-Spkrs set to 2?
>
> Chuck Jack
> KE9UW
>
> Sent from my iPhone, cjack
>
> > On Jan 15, 2019, at 7:01 PM, Dave Sublette  wrote:
> >
> > My K3s arrived over the weekend and I have been setting it up. I am using
> > the rear Audio jacks to drive either headphones, or the Line out to drive
> > an amplifier and two speakers in the stereo mode.
> >
> > The headphone jack has stereo output ok.  But the line out only has right
> > channel audio.  Left channel has nothing but a low hum.
> >
> > I am testing them one at a time, using the same cable. So it is not a
> case
> > of a bad cable.  The plug inserts to the same depth in both the headphone
> > and line out jacks, so I believe the plug is properly inserted,
> >
> > I have been through both the Main Menu and Config menus, item by item.  I
> > see nothing that would give the option to turn off the left channel of
> the
> > line out.
> >
> > Anyone have any suggestions?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dave, K4TO
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[Elecraft] K3s Line Out (stereo)

2019-01-15 Thread Dave Sublette
My K3s arrived over the weekend and I have been setting it up. I am using
the rear Audio jacks to drive either headphones, or the Line out to drive
an amplifier and two speakers in the stereo mode.

The headphone jack has stereo output ok.  But the line out only has right
channel audio.  Left channel has nothing but a low hum.

I am testing them one at a time, using the same cable. So it is not a case
of a bad cable.  The plug inserts to the same depth in both the headphone
and line out jacks, so I believe the plug is properly inserted,

I have been through both the Main Menu and Config menus, item by item.  I
see nothing that would give the option to turn off the left channel of the
line out.

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,

Dave, K4TO
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