[Elecraft] KAT500

[Mike Harris]

G'day,

Remote version some thoughts:

Power feed and signalling up the coax

Integrated remote antenna switch

Regards,

Mike VP8NO


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[Elecraft] KAT500?

[John_N1JM]

Haven't heard much on this lately. Still coming in August plus or minus?


John N1JM

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[KM4VX]

Although the latest information on the Elecraft Web Site remains a KAT500
shipping date of August 15 (2012?) there is yet no photo of the KAT500 on
the site- similar to the way other products are advertised by Elecraft- and
no KAT500 manual for us to preview--their usual pre-production practice.
Elecraft has had nothing to say about the KAT500 since March, except to
repeat in April their plans to launch the KAT500 this summer. I look forward
to an update in the near future. Many thanks. KM4VX



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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Mark Volstad]

Golly, what a subversive concept: Product promotion via word-of-mouth from 
satisfied customers!

Mark  AI4BJ


> ...  the reflector serves to keep the prices inflated and promotes the 
> products using the customers as unpaid salesmen.
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[rich kennedy]

Are the new KAT500 units shipping this week?
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Roy Morris]

I also have placed an order for the KAT500 kit that will be integrated into 
my K line.  I want to know up front whether an extra cable is needed.  If 
so, PLEASE SAY SO, and let me know if Elecraft is going to either provide 
the cable with the kit or if it will be available for purchase BEFORE my 
order is shipped.  Thanks.  Roy  W4WFB 

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[David Poplewski]

I am really excited. I received a call late this afternoon from Elecraft 
that my long awaited KAT500 antenna tuner is shipping today from 
California. I checked my email tonight and I also see a shipping 
confirmation from UPS that a package was indeed logged from Elecraft. It 
will be exciting next week when the big brown truck rolls in the driveway.
I'm actually looking forward to re-wiring the ham shack and getting the 
tuner in service. I'm sure I'm not the only one notified today, but I'm 
really excited they called me. Hat's off to you Elecraft for your fine 
customer service. You do yourselves proud. Congratulations to the team

73 David KC8IV
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Phil LaMarche]

Wonder if shipping has slowed down?  Haven't seen any chatter about it. I
would imagine they will push for end of month sales and get them out the
door.

 

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Phil LaMarche]

So excited, my tuner is shipping... Long wait but worth every day.

 

Phil

 

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[KD8NNU]

After reading the manual that was scanned in I noticed that when the unit is 
turned off that the antenna ports are not shorted together.

For my qth I like to shut down my station with my antenna switch the off 
position shorting my antennas to ground.  This in my mind is a good thing as it 
helps drain static from the system.  So I am thinking that if I get a KAT500 
then I would have to add more switches one for each antenna.   

Am I correct in my thinking or are there better ideas how to get this 
accomplished.  Extra switches need extra coax which is more cost and a wee bit 
more loss.

Any thoughts, comments.

Thanks
Don


~73
Don
KD8NNU
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[W2XB]

Been setting up my Kat500 with my K-line.
all cables seem fb and the kat utility seems to recognize everything. But
can't get the kat500 to sense any rf. if i push the tune button it blinks. I
tried transmitting on my antenna and into a dummy load. checked to coax
between the KPA500 and the KAT500. fb
 Is there a setting that I am missing ?? 

Don...w2xb



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[Elecraft] kat500

[W2XB]

Recieved my Kat500 today.
Must have a senior moment. Have it setup with my K-Line. Also the extra
cable . Utility shows band switching ETC. But can't get it to tune. It has
to a setting or cable that I am looking at. 
 When turning on the Kat500 will it show on the K3 that its on, like when
turning on the KPA500?

Don...w2xb






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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Ken Chandler]

Eric et al
I understand that KAT500 Kits will start shipping next week after successful 
field testing and 
when the manual is printed.
When will the rest of the World and especially the UK start expecting shipments 
to our zones!

Regards

Ken..G0ORH

Sent from my iPhone 4


 

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Hunsdon Cary III]

Seems there was no advantage to being the 2nd person to order a KAT500 at 
Dayton - kit orders received after mine are being shipped  but then my Dad 
always told me life wasn't fair! He was right.
Cary, K4TM
Lynchburg VA

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Barry Simpson]

My factory assembled KAT500 s/n 0093 arrived here yesterday.

I am yet to connect it up but it looks very nice indeed.

Barry  VK2BJ
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Barry Simpson]

Further to my earlier posting, I have now got the new KAT500 connected to
the K3 and KPA500 as per the instructions.

Of course it did not work at all at first. However, I just got back from
dinner out with the XYL, checked again and found that I had reversed the
antenna/transceiver cables !!

Now corrected and seems to be working perfectly.

It also does not seem to introduce any loss whatsoever, just like the K3
built in ATU. I don't know how Elecraft do that as both my Kenwood rigs
have significant losses in their ATU's as did my previous Yaesu.

The mojo is still working.

Barry  VK2BJ
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Fred Jensen]

I guess the list is back.

KAT500 question:  Mine needs one dit to get to the new band.  I have the 
15-conductor cables between the K3, KAT500, and KPA500.  I thought 
everybody knew what band I was on automagically.  FWIW: I almost always 
change bands on the KPA500 ... I thought all the rest followed.


This is not a "problem," I always send more than one dit answering a 
station, just curious.


73,

Fred K6DGW
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Larry Snyder]

Good Morning

 

I have a KAT500 with a vertical on ANT 1 and a Hex on ANT 3. 

 

I go to 20 meters with Auto flashing an put the radio in AM and the KAT500
tunes and finds a good SWR - all is fine.  Then I play around with other
frequencies and then come back and for some reason the KAT500 appears to not
remember the tuning parameters and then retunes again for the same frequency
on the same antenna.   Why is this??  This happens frequently (i.e.: not
remembering the settings and going into retune).  

 

Also, the SWR meter on the K3 is always blank (i.e.: no bars) while on the
K3 and KPA500 I see the SWR at 1.5??

 

73s from Colombia 

Larry  HK2LS

 

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Ralph S. Turk]

Can one use the 12vdc of the K3 to power the KAT 500?  The K3 has the latest 
update for the 12 dc.

Ralph, W7HSG/AFA9RT
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[Elecraft] Kat500

[Ron Leech]

I just got my new Kat500 (0771) and im a bit confused on the setting for the 
Amplifier Key Interrupt 99.00. The amp is a Kpa500 and the radio a ts480 run 
with a Remoterig and will be used remote. If the setting should be changed what 
would be a good setting.

73 Ron Leech ve7nex
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[Elecraft] kat500

[rdonner @dslextreme.com]

thanks  Richard
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Jay Caldis]

Why on some frequencies can the Antenna Tuner in the K3 Tune the frequency 
perfectly, but the KAT500 can not do the same?
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Jack Satterfield]

I am trying to tune a G5Rv on 4.7xx (MARS freq) best I can get with the
KAT500 is 2.65 swr,  which means cannot use the KPA500.

Using the K3 barefoot with ATU it tunes to 1.0 swr

Why is there such a big difference in performance?

Jack

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Jack Satterfield]

Trying to tune a G5RV on 4.7xx mhz (MARS Freq.) best it will do is SWR 2.65,
which means I cannot use the amp.

K3 barefoot will tune SWR to 1.0

 

Why is there such a big difference between the tuners?

Jack

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[Elecraft] KAT500??

[Fred Bennett N9TA]

  Sowhat the heck has happened to the KAT500?

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Charles]

Any news?

Charles - M0BIN
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Mike Harris]

A few questions:

1.  Approx cost.
2.  Are there still thoughts about offering a remote version.
3.  Can the three antenna ports be programmed to follow band selection.

The full spec will be interesting.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Roy Morris]

I hope Wayne and Eric are considering putting a bale on the bottom of the 
KAT500.  Some of us prefer to place this tuner beneath the amplifier and 
keep the tuner/amp in the same plain as the K3 and P3 with extended bales. 
Roy  W4WFB 

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[Elecraft] KAT500?

[Ian Kahn - Ham]

Wayne, Eric, Elecraft Team,

With Dayton less than two weeks away, any chance we'll see more info, 
like pricing and availability, on the KAT500 soon?

73,

-- Ian
Ian Kahn, KM4IK
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Phil LaMarche]

Sure has been a long time since I placed my phone order and still haven't
received a confirmation.  Did I drop out of the loop?

 

Phil

 

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Fred Jensen]

The back of my radio shelf is anything but "wireless."  Can someone 
field testing the KAT500 enlighten me regarding the wires/cables it will 
bring to my copper collection?  I have a K3, KPA500, and P3.

Right now:
USB/232 adapter, laptop to P3
P3 RS-232 to K3 RS-232
K3 ACC to KPA500

plus coax, paddle, Winkeyer, line in/out, headphones, mic, IF to P3, 
power, grounds, and several unidentified cables that may or may not be 
doing something.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Phil LaMarche]

Those of us who ordered on the phone the first day, has anyone received a
confirmation yet?

 

Phil

 

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Dyarnes]

Hi All,

I haven't seen much of anything lately about the KAT500.  Is there any 
updated info out there?  I meant to ask Eric or Wayne at Pacificon, but they 
were swamped with customers.

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Joe Word]

Dave,

Not much to say... it just works perfectly!! One of the best pieces of
equipment I have ever owned.

Joe  N9VX


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Hi All,

I haven't seen much of anything lately about the KAT500.  Is there any
updated info out there?  I meant to ask Eric or Wayne at Pacificon, but they
were swamped with customers.

Dave W7AQK
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Roy Morris]

I believe the K3/KAT500 will be similar to the K2/KAT100-1.  Surely the 
KAT500 will have a retractable bale similar to the KAT100-1.  This will mean 
the K Line components will not line up at the same height. I believe Wayne 
means for the tuner to be placed UNDER the K3 or KPA500.  I would not place 
the KAT500 on top of the KPA500 restricting air flow to the amp, nor would I 
place it on top of the K3 restricting the sound from the K3 speaker (if the 
internal speaker is used).  Does the KAT500 have a bale?  Roy Morris  W4WFB

The KAT500 matches the K3/KPA500 footprint, but it's very thin (1.5"
-- same height as the W2 wattmeter). You'll be able to place the
KAT500 on top of either the K3 or KPA500.

73,
Wayne
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Edward Dickinson III]

I'm pleased to read the KAT500 is progressing.  Are we to continue to expect
a remove variant?  If so, will its introduction be concurrent with the unit
as recently described?

 

Happy Thanksgiving to the staff and customers of Elecraft.

 

 

 

73,

Dick - KA5KKT

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Jim Sheldon]

My wife is asking for the timeframe in which the KAT500 tuner will be available 
for ordering if that is known.  I'm suspecting she's planning on that being my 
Christmas present this year (even if it won't arrive in time to put under the 
tree I'm sure.)

Jim - W0EB
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[Elecraft] KAT500 ?

[Joe K2UF]

Any update on the KAT500 availability?

Joe K2UF

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[KM4VX]

Any update on when the KAT500 will be available? I see on the reflector it
was projected for release last summer. I don't think asking the question
again now in Jan 2012 is inappropriate. There is a lot of interest among the
non-resonat antenna Elecraft community.   Any information would be
appreciated. Thanks

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Joe K2UF]

Has there been any update on the availability and cost for the redesigned
KAT500?  

The Elecraft site still says fall 2011.  

I have given up on February contest.  Now hoping for CQ WPX CW in May.

73  Joe K2UF

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Dan Atchison]

Will the KAT500 be on display at Orlando's Hamcation?
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[n5ge]

What's he latest news?

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[Elecraft] Kat500

[Charles]

Can we have an indication as to when the KAT500 will become available?
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Paul Ormandy ZL4PW]

Hi all,

I wonder if any of the Elecraft team can let us know how many antenna ports the 
KAT500 will have and 
if they will be auto band-switching?

If so, I'll abandon my plan to build a band-switching interface using the Top 
Ten decoder I have.

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Johnny Siu]

Hello Eric,

If possible, will the matched KAT500 ATU come at the same time as KPA500?  
 73 


Johnny VR2XMC 





寄件人﹕ Jan Holmer SM6TUW 
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主題： Re: [Elecraft] KPA500


Eric,

I have some questions:

1. What is the total shipping weight for a KPA500 kit? (for shipping cost
estimation.)
    The transformer is probably the main contributor.

2. Do you have any plans to ship a kit that can be sourced by a customer
power supply or is the built PS
    tightly integrated regarding supervision, regulation etc. 

  Jan



  
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy]

Eric,

Any good possibility that later on you might also release a kW version which 
can be used as a remote ATU?

Am planning for the not too distant future :-)

73,
Geoff
GM4ESD


Eric Swartz wrote on April 07, 2011 at 12:11 AM:


> Also, there is a KAT500 in the works for release later this summer if
> all goes to plan. Stay tuned!


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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Mike Fatchett]

There has been much speculation and suggestions for this new product.  I 
am sure the Elecraft team will produce another fine product.  I doubt 
they would be working on this product unless they felt that they could 
improve upon what is already available on the market.  I have a couple 
of LDG tuners and they work very well.  The issue I have with their 
tuners is that the power handling capabilities are halved on 6m.

One of the design requirements for the new KAT500 is that it will handle 
the full output of the KPA500 on all bands.

I would like to see multiple antenna inputs for the tuner and a way to 
specify which one is used on which band.

A number of people have suggested a weatherproof unit for placement 
directly at the antenna feed.  In this setup extra inputs might be 
wasted unless you ran your other feeds over to the tuner.  Talking to 
the remote tuner without extra control lines might be a challenge.

A wattmeter and SWR meter should probably be part of the unit.

I will be curious to see what the enclosure will be as I hope to take 
one to J6 in November.  I am not sure that the tuner could be made much 
smaller than the K3 enclosure.  Using the same enclosure is cheaper in 
the long run and matches the the K-line ascetically.

It is refreshing to be able to exchange ideas so freely with the 
manufacturer and actually receive prompt feedback!

Thanks Elecraft!  It is a pleasure doing business with you and it is a 
pleasure using your products!
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Jack W4GRJ]

Is there anyway to set antenna selection to bypass when selected?
i have a dipole on ant one where I use the kat500
on ant two I have a random wire on outdoor tuner, I would like kat500 to always 
bypass when ant two is selected.

tnx
Jack
W4GRJ
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[Elecraft] KAT500

[ws6x.ars]

Hello,

I have a guy trying to sell me a used KAT500, SN 0296. He sent me an actual
photo with the SN clearly showing. Also in the photo is KPA500 SN 0702.
Something seems suspicious. I did a Google image search, but the results
were inconclusive.

Does anyone in this group own, or has ever owned this pair?

Please contact me off list.

Thanks,

Jim - WS6X

 

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[ws6x.ars]

Hello Again,

Sorry for being so “mysterious” yesterday. Several of you have written, some 
with helpful suggestions, but many being curious about what I thought was 
“suspicious” about the KAT500 transaction. 

Briefly, I have learned when you place a “WTB:” ad on QTH.com, you often 
encounter one of the lurking scammers, who will offer to sell you the item you 
are wanting. They will spoof an unsuspecting, legitimate ham, who does not 
include an email address in their QRZ listing. There are several tell-tale 
signs of such an operation, and such was the case yesterday with the offer to 
sell me KAT500, SN 0296.

I wrote this group yesterday, hoping that perhaps the rightful owner would step 
forward. Sure enough, last evening the real owner of the equipment contacted 
me. Interestingly, asking for a close-up photo clearly showing the Serial 
Number will usually stop these guys in their tracks, but yesterday the scammer 
provided me with that photo. These guys are becoming very sophisticated.

Anyway, thanks for bearing with me while I outed this scammer.

73 es Stay Safe,

Jim – WS6X

 

P.S. I’m still looking for a KAT500. Any offers? 😊 

 

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Main]

Looking for a KAT500 preferably with Yaesu FTDX3000 cables. Thanks 

Eric J Evans
ARS K4NDN 

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[Elecraft] KAT500

[Josep Torres via Elecraft]

Looking for a KAT500, if there is anyone here that has one and don’t use it 
anymore, please contact me directly, thanks.

73,

Josep
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[Elecraft] KAT500?

[W2HX]

Hello there. I am not currently an owner of any elecraft product, but I am 
seriously considering a KAT500 for use with older analog radios. I hope this is 
the right place to ask because the elecraft website page for subscribing to 
this list (https://elecraft.com/pages/community) only mentions 
"KX1/K1/K2/K3/KX3/P3/KPA500" but here goes.

I am interested in the native capabilities of the remote control software I 
looked on the elecraft website and only found this manual which only covers 
installation of the software: 
https://ftp.elecraft.com/KAT500/Remote%20Software/KAT500-Remote.pdf

But I am interested in what screens are behind the buttons such as Power, Tune, 
Antenna, Mode, et. Al. But I cannot find any documentation beyond this 
installation manual. Does it exist? Or does someone know of a youtube video I 
can watch that goes through this program? I understand that many folks are 
using node-red for control of the KAT, but right now I'm looking to see the 
functions of basic application.

Generally, I am wondering if the software supports:

  1.  Setting the SWR threshold --  below which, the tuner will consider a 
tuning solution to be "done"
  2.  Once the tuning solution is found, the manual changing the L's and C's to 
fine tune the match as much as possible and then store to memory
  3.  Settings for which antenna should be used for which bands
  4.  Can an antenna be set for use with multiple bands (like OCF dipole)? Or 
only one band per antenna?

Thanks very much!

73 Eugene W2HX
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Wayne Burdick]

I'm going to hold off on further description of the KAT500. We have  
lots of TBDs to work out.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Oct 19, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Edward Dickinson, III wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi Wayne,
>
> Between '"bare" (or minimally enclosed) packaging option,' 'user's own
> weatherproof enclosure,' and mention of "average' climates'  
> weatherproofing,
> it's not clear if Elecraft will offer a remote weatherproof  
> enclosure which
> might do for a large percentage of users non-extreme climates.  I'll  
> not
> attempt to define extreme.
>
> I'm pleased to know that such an ATU is coming from Elecraft.


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Julius Fazekas n2wn]

Hi Mike,

This looks like it went to me only, you may want to confirm it went to the 
reflector.
Sounds like a couple good ideas!

73,
Julius

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Subject: KAT500
To: "Julius Fazekas n2wn" 
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G'day,


Remote version some thoughts:


Power feed and signalling up the coax


Integrated remote antenna switch


Regards,


Mike VP8NO



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Eugene Balinski]

One more thought:

Ability to tune balanced antennas

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> 
> Remote version some thoughts:
> 
> Power feed and signalling up the coax
> 
> Integrated remote antenna switch
> 
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> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Jim Miller]

See http://fermi.la.asu.edu/w9cf/articles/balun.pdf by one of our intrepid
qrp foxes (W9CF) for an excellent technical discussion of balun placement
and requirements.

See http://audiosystemsgroup.com/RFI-Ham.pdf (K9YC's paper) which includes
excellent recipes for baluns. A balun of proper design, dimensions and
impedance on the output of a tuner will allow for balanced antenna
operation.

73

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500?

[Joe K2UF]

A status update would be nice.

Joe K2UF

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Haven't heard much on this lately. Still coming in August plus or minus?


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500?

[Don Wilhelm]

Sorry Joe,
Eric is on vacation this week, and things in Watsonville will go on as 
previously intended, but webpage updates will have to wait for Eric's 
return.  Yes, it is Summer vacation time - these kind of gaps can be 
expected.  We all need our R&R - whatever that may be for us.  I suspect 
Eric will be bringing back some great underwater photos!  I have seen 
some of his work and it id phenomenal.

73,
Don W3FPR

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500?

[John KLim]

Hi all

I thought R&R was another way of saying "it contesting time", well for some
of us I hope.

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Sorry Joe,
Eric is on vacation this week, and things in Watsonville will go on as 
previously intended, but webpage updates will have to wait for Eric's 
return.  Yes, it is Summer vacation time - these kind of gaps can be 
expected.  We all need our R&R - whatever that may be for us.  I suspect 
Eric will be bringing back some great underwater photos!  I have seen 
some of his work and it id phenomenal.

73,
Don W3FPR

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>
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[Elecraft] KAT500 remote?

[Sean Logghe]

I suspect this falls in Eric's court and won't get a response until he digs
out from under the "post-vacation blues" but add my voice to the requests
for any update information about a remote version of the KAT500 antenna
tuner.

 

Any availability/delivery information would be great. Even negative info,
like "definitely not before 1/1/13" for example.

 

Of course, potential functional descriptions would be exciting, as well.

 

I know, I must have a masochistic streak as I wait patiently in the queue
for my ordered KX3 (March 2nd), and ordered KAT500 (Dayton). (That's still
on track for 15 AUG, right?)  And now I want to tee up another product to
wait for?  :-)  Oy vey! But, contest season approaches and decisions beg to
be made.

 

They say patience is a virtue so I must be very virtuous, or maybe I am the
exception that proves the rule?  ;)  (Take that however you wish!)

 

So here is a plea for any information that your business plan allows you to
share.

 

Thanks and best regards,

 

Sean Logghe

 

KB2CKN

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Bruce Beford]

There are pictures of the KAT500 on the website. Go to the home page, and
click on "News". You will see pictures from the Visalia hamfest.
73,
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[KM4VX]

Bruce: I know and there is stuff on YouTube,  but that is quite different from 
a photo on Elecraft promoting the product. I cancelled  KX3 because by the time 
I got it the technology would be vintage; I have high hopes the KAT500 will 
surface this year. Ron
 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:11:10 -0700
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To: ronce...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: KAT500



There are pictures of the KAT500 on the website. Go to the home page, 
and

click on "News". You will see pictures from the Visalia hamfest.

73,

Bruce, N1RX



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Bruce Beford]

Sad you feel this way. I have been enjoying my KX3 for about a month now.
Yes, I waited almost 6 months from the date of my pre-order. I did the same
for my K3. Neither was "vintage" when received. Hardly. In fact even with
the early-adopter pre-order wait, there was still nothing on the market that
compared with either product. I also pre-ordered a KAT500 when Elecraft
announced they were comfortable enough with the design to accept orders.
When it arrives, I will enjoy that also.
73,
Bruce N1RX
 
> Bruce: I know and there is stuff on YouTube,  but that is quite different
from a photo on Elecraft 
> promoting the product. I cancelled  KX3 because by the time I got it the
technology would be 
> vintage; I have high hopes the KAT500 will surface this year. Ron

 

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[KM4VX]

I like the Elecraft products and also have several of their radios/meters/amp 
etc. However, I still find the marketing unsatisfactory and the hype over their 
products unjustified; the reflector serves to keep the prices inflated and 
promotes the products using the customers as unpaid salesmen.
 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:11:18 -0700
From: ml-node+s365791n7559595...@n2.nabble.com
To: ronce...@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: KAT500



Sad you feel this way. I have been enjoying my KX3 for about a month 
now.

Yes, I waited almost 6 months from the date of my pre-order. I did the same

for my K3. Neither was "vintage" when received. Hardly. In fact even with

the early-adopter pre-order wait, there was still nothing on the market that

compared with either product. I also pre-ordered a KAT500 when Elecraft

announced they were comfortable enough with the design to accept orders.

When it arrives, I will enjoy that also.

73,

Bruce N1RX

 

> Bruce: I know and there is stuff on YouTube,  but that is quite different

from a photo on Elecraft 

> promoting the product. I cancelled  KX3 because by the time I got it the

technology would be 

> vintage; I have high hopes the KAT500 will surface this year. Ron


 


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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Gary Gregory]

*Bruce,

I think we all should remember that in order to release a new product,
Elecraft will first ship out the Field Test Units where they use these to
thoroughly test out the design and functionality ok the equipment unlike
shall we say 'other' manufacturers and reduce the risk of shipping
equipment that falls short of customer expectations.

the second advantage of doing this is to refine the manual and reduce as
many of the errata changes as possible. Remember too that the manual writer
only wants to do the job of writing once and needs feedback from users to
allow the author to write the manual in such a way as to help users
understand the equipment and when it comes to assembly it helps with the
wording of that manual also.

Elecraft can only give you information that is accurate and we should not
expect them to release a daily sheet on where they are at with a particular
product.

The FT units will ship out 'soon' and testing will not be a long period
with something like a KAT500 when compared with say the K3 as there are
obviously less features/functions to deal with for a KAT500 vs a K3/KPA500.

The fact they have not 'moved' the hopeful release date is encouraging for
those of us that are waiting.

Kenwood have shown of there latest 'future' release and still no exact
release date and this also is to be expected as they await FCC approval etc
as well as final FW release.

73
Gary
*
On 22 July 2012 05:58, Bruce Beford  wrote:

> Sad you feel this way. I have been enjoying my KX3 for about a month now.
> Yes, I waited almost 6 months from the date of my pre-order. I did the same
> for my K3. Neither was "vintage" when received. Hardly. In fact even with
> the early-adopter pre-order wait, there was still nothing on the market
> that
> compared with either product. I also pre-ordered a KAT500 when Elecraft
> announced they were comfortable enough with the design to accept orders.
> When it arrives, I will enjoy that also.
> 73,
> Bruce N1RX
>
> > Bruce: I know and there is stuff on YouTube,  but that is quite different
> from a photo on Elecraft
> > promoting the product. I cancelled  KX3 because by the time I got it the
> technology would be
> > vintage; I have high hopes the KAT500 will surface this year. Ron
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Bruce Beford]

All good points, Gary. Also facts of which I am well aware, given my lengthy
acquaintance with Elecraft (the Ethos). Perhaps Ron may find these fact
interesting, though I suspect not.

73 es enjoy that "good life"- retired and RV mobile...

Bruce, N1RX (jealous)

 

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From: Gary Gregory [mailto:garyvk...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 6:12 PM
To: Bruce Beford
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

 

Bruce,

I think we all should remember that in order to release a new product,
Elecraft will first ship out the Field Test Units where they use these to
thoroughly test out the design and functionality ok the equipment unlike
shall we say 'other' manufacturers and reduce the risk of shipping equipment
that falls short of customer expectations.

the second advantage of doing this is to refine the manual and reduce as
many of the errata changes as possible. Remember too that the manual writer
only wants to do the job of writing once and needs feedback from users to
allow the author to write the manual in such a way as to help users
understand the equipment and when it comes to assembly it helps with the
wording of that manual also.

Elecraft can only give you information that is accurate and we should not
expect them to release a daily sheet on where they are at with a particular
product.

The FT units will ship out 'soon' and testing will not be a long period with
something like a KAT500 when compared with say the K3 as there are obviously
less features/functions to deal with for a KAT500 vs a K3/KPA500.

The fact they have not 'moved' the hopeful release date is encouraging for
those of us that are waiting.

Kenwood have shown of there latest 'future' release and still no exact
release date and this also is to be expected as they await FCC approval etc
as well as final FW release.

73
Gary

On 22 July 2012 05:58, Bruce Beford  wrote:

Sad you feel this way. I have been enjoying my KX3 for about a month now.
Yes, I waited almost 6 months from the date of my pre-order. I did the same
for my K3. Neither was "vintage" when received. Hardly. In fact even with
the early-adopter pre-order wait, there was still nothing on the market that
compared with either product. I also pre-ordered a KAT500 when Elecraft
announced they were comfortable enough with the design to accept orders.
When it arrives, I will enjoy that also.
73,
Bruce N1RX

> Bruce: I know and there is stuff on YouTube,  but that is quite different
from a photo on Elecraft
> promoting the product. I cancelled  KX3 because by the time I got it the
technology would be
> vintage; I have high hopes the KAT500 will surface this year. Ron



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Gary Gregory]

*Ron,

The advertising by Elecraft is refreshing for most. Inclusion of customers
in the discussion of interoperability of their products allows the customer
views to be talked about at Elecraft.

Your view expressed here may indeed result in further discussion at
management level. You may not be privy to those discussions of course, but
may result in some refinement of the way they do business. How can this NOT
be a positive?

You seem to think the products are overpriced, but consider this, if cost
of production over set period of time for XXX amount of units VS say XX
number of units will effect the cost of components and overhead with
engineering etc...all these variables play a part in accurate costing of
production. Smaller manufacturers such as Elecraft strive to be competitive
but need to return a profit to stay viable and the current financial
situation around the globe does not help I imagine.

If Elecraft produce a quality product and needs to sell them at a 'premium'
some 10-20 percent higher than we as customers expect to pay then it is the
customer who must decide if it is value for money or not. This also applies
to any manufacturer and in in the world of amateur radio products I am
happy to buy those Elecraft products that suit my requirements. I don't
need the 'bling', I only need equipment that DOES meet the operational
requirements for me, NOT what a manufacturer states I need and believe me
there IS a difference. I was once a Dealer (NEW not Pick-Up reseller) and
this was for several manufacturers and I choose Elecraft products based on
equipment performance rather than price.

The above opinions are mine and not those of elecraft as I am just a
customer, nothing more.

73
*
On 22 July 2012 07:40, KM4VX  wrote:

>
> I like the Elecraft products and also have several of their
> radios/meters/amp etc. However, I still find the marketing unsatisfactory
> and the hype over their products unjustified; the reflector serves to keep
> the prices inflated and promotes the products using the customers as unpaid
> salesmen.
>  Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:11:18 -0700
> From: ml-node+s365791n7559595...@n2.nabble.com
> To: ronce...@earthlink.net
> Subject: Re: KAT500
>
>
>
> Sad you feel this way. I have been enjoying my KX3 for about a
> month now.
>
> Yes, I waited almost 6 months from the date of my pre-order. I did the same
>
> for my K3. Neither was "vintage" when received. Hardly. In fact even with
>
> the early-adopter pre-order wait, there was still nothing on the market
> that
>
> compared with either product. I also pre-ordered a KAT500 when Elecraft
>
> announced they were comfortable enough with the design to accept orders.
>
> When it arrives, I will enjoy that also.
>
> 73,
>
> Bruce N1RX
>
>
>
> > Bruce: I know and there is stuff on YouTube,  but that is quite different
>
> from a photo on Elecraft
>
> > promoting the product. I cancelled  KX3 because by the time I got it the
>
> technology would be
>
> > vintage; I have high hopes the KAT500 will surface this year. Ron
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

That is certainly a goal, Gary, but Wayne and Eric are adamant about my
incorporating any customer feedback that makes sense no matter how many
changes it requires. Little of that feed back is direct about the manual
although I appreciate hearing about any overlooked typos, etc. Most often
the changes are clarifications and additions in response to questions
directed to Customer Support because a step wasn't clear. 

The hard and fast goal for the first revision of any manual is for the very
first customer who gets the product to be able to easily and correctly build
it (if a kit) and operate it. After that the changes are all refinements,
but there are often many. 

On the kit assembly manuals (Wayne handles the KX3, K3 and several other
Owner's manuals and looks 'over my shoulder' on the rest), I sit down with
only the tools listed in the manual and approach the kit as a first-time
builder while writing the first draft. Then I tear the rig apart and do it
again to validate the steps. And often a third and fourth time to try
alternate assembly techniques or to confirm that the corrections I made to
the first draft are correct. The KX3 on my desk has been apart at least a
dozen times so far. The K3 well over 30 times, and the KPA500 about as many.


And that's why I monitor the reflector and Yahoo group. Comments there alert
me to things still overlooked about any of the current products. 

73, Ron AC7AC



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*Bruce,

the second advantage of doing this is to refine the manual and reduce as
many of the errata changes as possible. Remember too that the manual writer
only wants to do the job of writing once and needs feedback from users to
allow the author to write the manual in such a way as to help users
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[KM4VX]

I did not expect my additional comments on My KAT500 posting to appear on the
Reflector; thought they would be private responses to private e-mails.  Live
and learn.  I do disagree with marketing that raises demands without an
ability to meet the demand for months or years.  I think instant
gratification is what drives Hamfests and much of hobby-buying;  new "toys"
are constantly coming on the market, and I think many of us expect to buy
now what is advertised now.  I understand others are willing to wait and
track and graph KX3 shipments etc. This also raises expectations and
increases demand; nothing to do with quality or technology. It drives sales. 
Owning and enjoying K/1, K2, K3, P/3, W2, and the KPA500 I admit to being an
Elecraft fan and await the KAT500. Nevertheless, I do object to marketing
what is not readily available and not providing regular updates on the
status of those products delayed for whatever reason. I know the folks at
Elecraft are busy; no one is THAT busy. 73 Ron KM4VX



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Jim Brown]

On 7/22/2012 6:24 AM, KM4VX wrote:
> I do disagree with marketing that raises demands without an
> ability to meet the demand for months or years.

Elecraft has a long standing practice of announcing products well in 
advance of production, and making it clear that they are doing so. 
Elecraft is a small company, with limited resources, and they operate in 
the same real economy as the rest of us.  In that real world, parts 
often take a lot longer to obtain than when projected, parts vendors 
don't always ship what they promise, things don't fit on the circuit 
board, so it has to be re-designed, a new operational capability is 
requested which requires re-design, design engineers may have personal 
issues, or may get diverted to solving a problem with an existing 
product, and so on.

I greatly appreciate Elecraft's product announcements, and I accept them 
for what the are.  They allow me to plan for building out my station -- 
in my case, I've been improving my antenna farm, working out switching 
for it, and working on replacing the manual Ten Tec antenna tuners for 
my wire antennas.  The KAT500s will do that, and help with the 
switching. While I'm waiting for the tuners (I ordered at Dayton) I'm 
continuing to work on the rest of it, and when they arrive I'll be ready 
for them.

Not long after I finished college I was working in an engineering lab 
and needed repairs on my VW beetle.  I had been introduced to a great 
mechanic who had his own small shop, and took it in for repair. There 
was a lot of work, and it wasn't going to be cheap. Later that day I 
called him to tell him to stop working on it because I'd lost my job. 
I'll never forget his response -- "Don't worry about it, when you have 
the money, I'll still need it."  He did the work, and I picked up the 
car a few days later.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[N5GE]

This thread reminds me of a very annoying advertisement by the Mitsubishi motor
company in the mid 80's.  

It started with a very loud male voice, saying, "GET WHAT YOU WANT AND GET IT
NOW!"...

I'm very happy with the way Elecraft handles their business and I like their
products very much, even when I have to wait for them.

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 06:24:12 -0700 (PDT), KM4VX  wrote:

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>Reflector; thought they would be private responses to private e-mails.
[snip]

Interesting you would actually believe that.

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[KM4VX]

Now that we have hopefully exhausted considerable helpful commentary and an
equal amount of irrelevant and often gratuitous advice in this thread, I
hope we can remember that my original post  simply asked for an update on
the status of the beloved if unseen KAT500.  Good to know we all love our
Elecraft products; no need to defend what is not under attack.  Elecraft
fans must have an excessive amount of time on their hands!!  Ron  KM4VX 



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Phil Hystad]

The Elecraft web site has a shipping status page that contains all kinds of 
useful information about the shipping status of each product and even 
components of products.

But, it is missing information about the new items like KX3 and KAT500.  Maybe 
Eric can get the time to add these to that shipping status table.  Useful 
information would be like for the KAT500, planned shipping date of August 15, 
2012.  For the KX3 it might be useful to know the estimated backlog.  Backlog 
can be reported in days or weeks to erase the backlog given current estimated 
new orders versus the time to process each order.  Indeed, maybe some queueing 
theory work can be done.

I think such information regularly updated (I see the current shipping status 
page was updated July 19th) would be very good at informing people about the 
status of these newer products.

73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Phil Hystad]

My fault -- I see that the shipping status page does include the KX3.


On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:

> The Elecraft web site has a shipping status page that contains all kinds of 
> useful information about the shipping status of each product and even 
> components of products.
> 
> But, it is missing information about the new items like KX3 and KAT500.  
> Maybe Eric can get the time to add these to that shipping status table.  
> Useful information would be like for the KAT500, planned shipping date of 
> August 15, 2012.  For the KX3 it might be useful to know the estimated 
> backlog.  Backlog can be reported in days or weeks to erase the backlog given 
> current estimated new orders versus the time to process each order.  Indeed, 
> maybe some queueing theory work can be done.
> 
> I think such information regularly updated (I see the current shipping status 
> page was updated July 19th) would be very good at informing people about the 
> status of these newer products.
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Rick Prather]

And the order page shows a target shipping date for the KAT500 of August 15.

Rick
K6LE

On 7/23/2012, at 7:38 , Phil Hystad  wrote:

> My fault -- I see that the shipping status page does include the KX3.
> 
> 
> On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> 
>> The Elecraft web site has a shipping status page that contains all kinds of 
>> useful information about the shipping status of each product and even 
>> components of products.
>> 
>> But, it is missing information about the new items like KX3 and KAT500.  
>> Maybe Eric can get the time to add these to that shipping status table.  
>> Useful information would be like for the KAT500, planned shipping date of 
>> August 15, 2012.  For the KX3 it might be useful to know the estimated 
>> backlog.  Backlog can be reported in days or weeks to erase the backlog 
>> given current estimated new orders versus the time to process each order.  
>> Indeed, maybe some queueing theory work can be done.
>> 
>> I think such information regularly updated (I see the current shipping 
>> status page was updated July 19th) would be very good at informing people 
>> about the status of these newer products.
>> 
>> 73, phil, K7PEH
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Jim Brown]

On 7/23/2012 7:37 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
> Eric can get the time to add these to that shipping status table

Eric is on vacation.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Phil Hystad]

Yes, I know that.  But, ease of use comes from association.  Where do you find 
the "status"?  Answer:  on the "status" page.  Sure, also having it on the 
order page is good too.


On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Rick Prather wrote:

> And the order page shows a target shipping date for the KAT500 of August 15.
> 
> Rick
> K6LE
> 
> On 7/23/2012, at 7:38 , Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
>> My fault -- I see that the shipping status page does include the KX3.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>> 
>>> The Elecraft web site has a shipping status page that contains all kinds of 
>>> useful information about the shipping status of each product and even 
>>> components of products.
>>> 
>>> But, it is missing information about the new items like KX3 and KAT500.  
>>> Maybe Eric can get the time to add these to that shipping status table.  
>>> Useful information would be like for the KAT500, planned shipping date of 
>>> August 15, 2012.  For the KX3 it might be useful to know the estimated 
>>> backlog.  Backlog can be reported in days or weeks to erase the backlog 
>>> given current estimated new orders versus the time to process each order.  
>>> Indeed, maybe some queueing theory work can be done.
>>> 
>>> I think such information regularly updated (I see the current shipping 
>>> status page was updated July 19th) would be very good at informing people 
>>> about the status of these newer products.
>>> 
>>> 73, phil, K7PEH

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Rick Prather]

I guess they figure that there is no "Shipping Status" if the item hasn't 
started shipping yet.


On 7/23/2012, at 12:45 , Phil Hystad  wrote:

> Yes, I know that.  But, ease of use comes from association.  Where do you 
> find the "status"?  Answer:  on the "status" page.  Sure, also having it on 
> the order page is good too.
> 
> 
> On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Rick Prather wrote:
> 
>> And the order page shows a target shipping date for the KAT500 of August 15.
>> 
>> Rick
>> K6LE
>> 
>> On 7/23/2012, at 7:38 , Phil Hystad  wrote:
>> 
>>> My fault -- I see that the shipping status page does include the KX3.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
>>> 
 The Elecraft web site has a shipping status page that contains all kinds 
 of useful information about the shipping status of each product and even 
 components of products.
 
 But, it is missing information about the new items like KX3 and KAT500.  
 Maybe Eric can get the time to add these to that shipping status table.  
 Useful information would be like for the KAT500, planned shipping date of 
 August 15, 2012.  For the KX3 it might be useful to know the estimated 
 backlog.  Backlog can be reported in days or weeks to erase the backlog 
 given current estimated new orders versus the time to process each order.  
 Indeed, maybe some queueing theory work can be done.
 
 I think such information regularly updated (I see the current shipping 
 status page was updated July 19th) would be very good at informing people 
 about the status of these newer products.
 
 73, phil, K7PEH
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Phil Hystad]

The fact that the item has not started shipping is indeed good "shipping 
status" information.  You must include all the possible transition states for 
the status otherwise the information is incomplete.


On Jul 23, 2012, at 12:55 PM, Rick Prather wrote:

> I guess they figure that there is no "Shipping Status" if the item hasn't 
> started shipping yet.
> 
> 
> On 7/23/2012, at 12:45 , Phil Hystad  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I know that.  But, ease of use comes from association.  Where do you 
>> find the "status"?  Answer:  on the "status" page.  Sure, also having it on 
>> the order page is good too.
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 23, 2012, at 8:43 AM, Rick Prather wrote:
>> 
>>> And the order page shows a target shipping date for the KAT500 of August 15.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> K6LE
>>> 
>>> On 7/23/2012, at 7:38 , Phil Hystad  wrote:
>>> 
 My fault -- I see that the shipping status page does include the KX3.
 
 
 On Jul 23, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Phil Hystad wrote:
 
> The Elecraft web site has a shipping status page that contains all kinds 
> of useful information about the shipping status of each product and even 
> components of products.
> 
> But, it is missing information about the new items like KX3 and KAT500.  
> Maybe Eric can get the time to add these to that shipping status table.  
> Useful information would be like for the KAT500, planned shipping date of 
> August 15, 2012.  For the KX3 it might be useful to know the estimated 
> backlog.  Backlog can be reported in days or weeks to erase the backlog 
> given current estimated new orders versus the time to process each order. 
>  Indeed, maybe some queueing theory work can be done.
> 
> I think such information regularly updated (I see the current shipping 
> status page was updated July 19th) would be very good at informing people 
> about the status of these newer products.
> 
> 73, phil, K7PEH
>> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Jon K Hellan]

I've got a K3, a hand me down Ameritron AL-811 amp, an LDG AT-600 Pro 
tuner, and often use somewhat strange antennas. (See picture at 
www.ha19.no/la4rt/ ).

I'm considering replacing the LDG tuner with a KAT500. The LDG unit 
isn't bad, but it's got a confusing user interface, and it's so noisy 
that I can't let it run a full tuning cycle while people are sleeping 
next door. It also doesn't match quite as well as the built in tuner in 
the K3.

Can the field testers comment on what the KAT500 sounds like. Has 
anybody had the opportunity to compare both tuners?

The el cheapo amp will stay for the foreseeable future, so I'm 
interested in if and how the combination will work. I found an old 
thread with a lot of info:

On 06/23/2012 06:38 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
> Fred:  N6TV took a good back panel of my prototype unit at Visalia:
> http://www.elecraft.com/KAT500/kat500rear_visalia.jpg. It's sitting atop a
> KPA500.
>
> The KAT500 back panel has two 15-pin ACC connectors labeled "control". One
> cable (XCVR) goes from your K3 to the KAT500, another (AMP) goes from the
> KAT500 to the KPA500.

Will the cable from the K3 be useful even with a "dumb" amp?

 > ..
> The two RCA connectors labeled PTT RLY are not needed for the KPA500 as the
> amp key line interrupt is in the 15-pin ACC cable (along with band change
> lines and AUXBUS). If you're using another amplifier, you'll want to put the
> KAT500 in the keying/PTT line between the transceiver and amplifier.  The
> KAT500 wants to hot-switch relays at exciter power, not QRO.

I guess this means that the PTT line goes
[ K3 ]---[ KAT500 ]---[ AL-811 ]
And that the K3 tune button will tune the KAT500 when it's inline, and 
the KAT500 won't let the amp key up unless the tuner is ready. Correct?

Jon LA4RT
Trondheim, Norway
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[ke9uw]

Umm...
I want one of these but I have an MFJ998 which works well. One thing I like
is seeing the values that it selects for the L network. It seems to have an
almost reliable memory and tunes in a few seconds without a lot of clatter.
Probably the best MFJ item I have ever bought. OT, don't ask me about the 75
amp "clean" switching power supply that put birdies all up and down 75
meters. I enacted the no-questions-asked return policy on that.
I'll get the KAT500...any chance that it's possible to observe the tuner
values on VFO B on the K3...or the VGA display etc? That would be so nice.
I'm not asking if it's in the works, just if it can be done in future
programming by Elecraft. Any ideas?

Chuck, KE9UW



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Fred Smith]

I'm using a Palstar AT-Auto with my K3/100 and Alpha amp it works very well
also and shows all the values. I bought it to use till my Alpha 4040 tuner
is delivered in Oct.The Palstar works very quickly using only RF sensing
coax hookup and when switching antennas (3) it find a solution very quickly
usually a matter of several seconds when returning it remembers and it's
dead on.



73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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Umm...
I want one of these but I have an MFJ998 which works well. One thing I like
is seeing the values that it selects for the L network. It seems to have an
almost reliable memory and tunes in a few seconds without a lot of clatter.
Probably the best MFJ item I have ever bought. OT, don't ask me about the 75
amp "clean" switching power supply that put birdies all up and down 75
meters. I enacted the no-questions-asked return policy on that.
I'll get the KAT500...any chance that it's possible to observe the tuner
values on VFO B on the K3...or the VGA display etc? That would be so nice.
I'm not asking if it's in the works, just if it can be done in future
programming by Elecraft. Any ideas?

Chuck, KE9UW



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[GI4FZD]

This must be almost ready for shipping,
Has anybody any updates regarding this?
cheers
paul




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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[GI4FZD]

ok thanks for all the replies,
Just joined this morning and missed the post,
did do a search but thought I might have missed something
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[GI4FZD]

Is this still on track for the Shipping Status info.
Cheers
Paul
GI4FZD



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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

Yup! 10/15 (or slightly earlier) to begin shipping.

73,
Eric

www.elecraft.com
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On Oct 4, 2012, at 11:53 PM, GI4FZD  wrote:

> Is this still on track for the Shipping Status info.
> Cheers
> Paul
> GI4FZD
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Phil LaMarche]

Great news.  Please share the first batch quantity to be shipped.

Phil

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Yup! 10/15 (or slightly earlier) to begin shipping.

73,
Eric

www.elecraft.com
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On Oct 4, 2012, at 11:53 PM, GI4FZD  wrote:

> Is this still on track for the Shipping Status info.
> Cheers
> Paul
> GI4FZD
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[GI4FZD]

Thanks for the info Eric
Cheers
Paul




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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Bob]

I have the K3 and KPA500 tied together with the Elecraft 15-pin cable.
Will a second cable ship with the kPA500, or is this a separate item?
(Since two 15 pin cables are now required).  Is this just a duplicate of
the first?

Since shipping is about to start, I suspect I'm not the only person who
will have that issue -- better to add a cable now to the existing order
than getting it in and discovering I don't have all that is needed to get
it hooked up.

And that said, I'm going to start installing coax and baluns this long
weekend (Columbus Day), so this is perfect timing.

73, Bob, WB4SON
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[DGB]

I have currently have a y-cable at the rig for the MH MKII and the 
KPA-500. How will the KAT-500 play into that? A Y-Cable on the KPA-500? 
I see no manual for the KAT-500 yet!

73 Dwight NS9I
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:53 AM, DGB  wrote:
> I have currently have a y-cable at the rig for the MH MKII and the
> KPA-500. How will the KAT-500 play into that? A Y-Cable on the KPA-500?
> I see no manual for the KAT-500 yet!

No, you want to daisy-chain the KPA500 after the KAT500, so that the
KAT500 can interrupt amp-keying during tuning. The KAT500 has AUX
guzinta and guzoutta for this purpose. You just need one additional
cable.

73,

~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Dick Dievendorff]

For a K-line, you'll want a 15-pin cable from K3 (after the Y) to the KAT500
and another from the KAT500 to the KPA500.  The KAT500 interrupts the KPA500
key line in that cable during tune, and both the KAT500 and KPA500 observe
the K3's BAND0 thru BAND3 lines. 

If you aren't using a K3, then the KAT500, like the KPA500, can sense band
changes by counting the Tx frequency.  

But it's very convenient to band switch the K3 and have the ATU and amp
follow without requiring a transmission. The ATU switches to the last-used
antenna on band switch (or to a fixed antenna you configure).  It's nice not
to have to send a "dit" to make that antenna switch happen.

The manual is in progress.

73 de Dick, K6KR


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I have currently have a y-cable at the rig for the MH MKII and the KPA-500.
How will the KAT-500 play into that? A Y-Cable on the KPA-500? 
I see no manual for the KAT-500 yet!

73 Dwight NS9I
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Jim Sheldon]

I guess the question now becomes - Is that cable going to be supplied with the 
KAT500 or do I have to contact Elecraft and have an additional cable placed on 
the order I put in back in May, during the Dayton Hamvention?  Been waiting 
patiently for that order to be filled so it would be nice to know if I have to 
order another cable before the KAT500 finally gets here.

Jim Sheldon - w0EB

> For a K-line, you'll want a 15-pin cable from K3 (after the Y) to
> the KAT500
> and another from the KAT500 to the KPA500.  The KAT500 interrupts
> the KPA500
> key line in that cable during tune, and both the KAT500 and KPA500
> observe
> the K3's BAND0 thru BAND3 lines.
>
> If you aren't using a K3, then the KAT500, like the KPA500, can
> sense band
> changes by counting the Tx frequency.
>
> But it's very convenient to band switch the K3 and have the ATU and
> amp
> follow without requiring a transmission. The ATU switches to the
> last-used
> antenna on band switch (or to a fixed antenna you configure).  It's
> nice not
> to have to send a "dit" to make that antenna switch happen.
>
> The manual is in progress.
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DGB
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:54 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500
>
> I have currently have a y-cable at the rig for the MH MKII and the
> KPA-500.
> How will the KAT-500 play into that? A Y-Cable on the KPA-500?
> I see no manual for the KAT-500 yet!
>
> 73 Dwight NS9I
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[N5GE]

Dick,

Thanks for the description.

Can you give a yes or no answer to Bob's question regarding whether
or not the extra 15 pin cable is included with the KAT500?

Thanks,

Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:08:43 -0700, "Dick Dievendorff"
 wrote:

>For a K-line, you'll want a 15-pin cable from K3 (after the Y) to the KAT500
>and another from the KAT500 to the KPA500.  The KAT500 interrupts the KPA500
>key line in that cable during tune, and both the KAT500 and KPA500 observe
>the K3's BAND0 thru BAND3 lines. 
>
>If you aren't using a K3, then the KAT500, like the KPA500, can sense band
>changes by counting the Tx frequency.  
>
>But it's very convenient to band switch the K3 and have the ATU and amp
>follow without requiring a transmission. The ATU switches to the last-used
>antenna on band switch (or to a fixed antenna you configure).  It's nice not
>to have to send a "dit" to make that antenna switch happen.
>
>The manual is in progress.
>
>73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:54 AM
>To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500
>
>I have currently have a y-cable at the rig for the MH MKII and the KPA-500.
>How will the KAT-500 play into that? A Y-Cable on the KPA-500? 
>I see no manual for the KAT-500 yet!
>
>73 Dwight NS9I
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

> both the KAT500 and KPA500 observe the K3's BAND0 thru BAND3 lines.

Is BAND0-BAND3 and active "repeat" function or a passive "Y"?   It
makes a difference in cable to support a remote KAT500.

Any other functions required in the KAT500 (Aux bus?)?

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 10/5/2012 3:08 PM, Dick Dievendorff wrote:
> For a K-line, you'll want a 15-pin cable from K3 (after the Y) to the KAT500
> and another from the KAT500 to the KPA500.  The KAT500 interrupts the KPA500
> key line in that cable during tune, and both the KAT500 and KPA500 observe
> the K3's BAND0 thru BAND3 lines.
>
> If you aren't using a K3, then the KAT500, like the KPA500, can sense band
> changes by counting the Tx frequency.
>
> But it's very convenient to band switch the K3 and have the ATU and amp
> follow without requiring a transmission. The ATU switches to the last-used
> antenna on band switch (or to a fixed antenna you configure).  It's nice not
> to have to send a "dit" to make that antenna switch happen.
>
> The manual is in progress.
>
> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DGB
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:54 AM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500
>
> I have currently have a y-cable at the rig for the MH MKII and the KPA-500.
> How will the KAT-500 play into that? A Y-Cable on the KPA-500?
> I see no manual for the KAT-500 yet!
>
> 73 Dwight NS9I
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

I'm fairly sure that the AUX cable will NOT be supplied (it wouldn't
be useful for non-K3 users) but it's probably best to just call
the sales dept and ask.

I elected to make my own short (~1ft) AUX cable, which works well when
the KAT500 is placed directly underneath the KPA500. It requires 7
wires (4xBand Data, AUXBUS, PTT and Ground).

73,

~iain / N6ML


On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Jim Sheldon  wrote:
> I guess the question now becomes - Is that cable going to be supplied with 
> the KAT500 or do I have to contact Elecraft and have an additional cable 
> placed on the order I put in back in May, during the Dayton Hamvention?  Been 
> waiting patiently for that order to be filled so it would be nice to know if 
> I have to order another cable before the KAT500 finally gets here.
>
> Jim Sheldon - w0EB
>
>> For a K-line, you'll want a 15-pin cable from K3 (after the Y) to
>> the KAT500
>> and another from the KAT500 to the KPA500.  The KAT500 interrupts
>> the KPA500
>> key line in that cable during tune, and both the KAT500 and KPA500
>> observe
>> the K3's BAND0 thru BAND3 lines.
>>
>> If you aren't using a K3, then the KAT500, like the KPA500, can
>> sense band
>> changes by counting the Tx frequency.
>>
>> But it's very convenient to band switch the K3 and have the ATU and
>> amp
>> follow without requiring a transmission. The ATU switches to the
>> last-used
>> antenna on band switch (or to a fixed antenna you configure).  It's
>> nice not
>> to have to send a "dit" to make that antenna switch happen.
>>
>> The manual is in progress.
>>
>> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DGB
>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:54 AM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500
>>
>> I have currently have a y-cable at the rig for the MH MKII and the
>> KPA-500.
>> How will the KAT-500 play into that? A Y-Cable on the KPA-500?
>> I see no manual for the KAT-500 yet!
>>
>> 73 Dwight NS9I
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[iain macdonnell - N6ML]

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Roy Morris  wrote:
> I also have placed an order for the KAT500 kit that will be integrated into
> my K line.  I want to know up front whether an extra cable is needed.  If
> so, PLEASE SAY SO, and let me know if Elecraft is going to either provide
> the cable with the kit or if it will be available for purchase BEFORE my
> order is shipped.  Thanks.  Roy  W4WFB

Rather than yelling here, why don't you call the Sales dept and ask?
If they tell you "no" (which I strongly suspect they will), they
should be able to add one to your order.

73,

   ~iain / N6ML
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

You will need to purchase an additional KPAK3AUX cable if you wish to send band 
data in advance of TX from the K3 to the KAT500.

73,

Eric

www.elecraft.com
_..._



On Oct 5, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Jim Sheldon  wrote:

> I guess the question now becomes - Is that cable going to be supplied with 
> the KAT500 or do I have to contact Elecraft and have an additional cable 
> placed on the order I put in back in May, during the Dayton Hamvention?  Been 
> waiting patiently for that order to be filled so it would be nice to know if 
> I have to order another cable before the KAT500 finally gets here.
> 
> Jim Sheldon - w0EB
> 
>> For a K-line, you'll want a 15-pin cable from K3 (after the Y) to
>> the KAT500
>> and another from the KAT500 to the KPA500.  The KAT500 interrupts
>> the KPA500
>> key line in that cable during tune, and both the KAT500 and KPA500
>> observe
>> the K3's BAND0 thru BAND3 lines.
>> 
>> If you aren't using a K3, then the KAT500, like the KPA500, can
>> sense band
>> changes by counting the Tx frequency.
>> 
>> But it's very convenient to band switch the K3 and have the ATU and
>> amp
>> follow without requiring a transmission. The ATU switches to the
>> last-used
>> antenna on band switch (or to a fixed antenna you configure).  It's
>> nice not
>> to have to send a "dit" to make that antenna switch happen.
>> 
>> The manual is in progress.
>> 
>> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DGB
>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:54 AM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500
>> 
>> I have currently have a y-cable at the rig for the MH MKII and the
>> KPA-500.
>> How will the KAT-500 play into that? A Y-Cable on the KPA-500?
>> I see no manual for the KAT-500 yet!
>> 
>> 73 Dwight NS9I
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft]

It is not supplied with the KAT500.

73,

Eric

www.elecraft.com
_..._



On Oct 5, 2012, at 12:27 PM, N5GE  wrote:

> 
> Dick,
> 
> Thanks for the description.
> 
> Can you give a yes or no answer to Bob's question regarding whether
> or not the extra 15 pin cable is included with the KAT500?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
> ARRL Lifetime Member
> QCWA Lifetime Member
> 
> On Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:08:43 -0700, "Dick Dievendorff"
>  wrote:
> 
>> For a K-line, you'll want a 15-pin cable from K3 (after the Y) to the KAT500
>> and another from the KAT500 to the KPA500.  The KAT500 interrupts the KPA500
>> key line in that cable during tune, and both the KAT500 and KPA500 observe
>> the K3's BAND0 thru BAND3 lines. 
>> 
>> If you aren't using a K3, then the KAT500, like the KPA500, can sense band
>> changes by counting the Tx frequency.  
>> 
>> But it's very convenient to band switch the K3 and have the ATU and amp
>> follow without requiring a transmission. The ATU switches to the last-used
>> antenna on band switch (or to a fixed antenna you configure).  It's nice not
>> to have to send a "dit" to make that antenna switch happen.
>> 
>> The manual is in progress.
>> 
>> 73 de Dick, K6KR
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
>> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DGB
>> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 11:54 AM
>> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KAT500
>> 
>> I have currently have a y-cable at the rig for the MH MKII and the KPA-500.
>> How will the KAT-500 play into that? A Y-Cable on the KPA-500? 
>> I see no manual for the KAT-500 yet!
>> 
>> 73 Dwight NS9I
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